Elona

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>mfw I made it into the OP with my vomit posting
Didn't expect it

>>17198656
Then it's a nice little buff to have around. Shame I can't teach it to my pets via custom yet.

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>>17175527
I see that you made a base out off Tisha's curvy sprite

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>>17198732
Would Momoka interest you too?

>>17198741
Ass too small

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>>17198759
That's sweet Tisha's department

>>17198667
What is ZUN doing in the OP picture?

>>17198687
Be proud of your vomit anon.

>>17198801
That's not me
I'm the vomit drinker

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>>17198667
New version of the Younger Sister Pack: http://www.mediafire.com/file/1fbipot1p6umz1j/Younger+Sister+Pack+6.RAR
Fixed the item spritesheet and improved the character spritesheet.
https://my.mixtape.moe/xwwlsf.bmp

>>17198775
Secret final boss of Elona+. You need to beat all inner god forms on the same map at the same time.

>>17198815

This man is an impostor. I'm the original vomit drinker.

One day I'll bring myself to read the guide and play this seriously.

Come on now guys, there's enough Sheena vomit for everyone.

>>17198815
>>17198826
I'm not sure which of you I believe.
Maybe we should have a vomit drinking contests to discover the original?

>>17198836
Or you can just grab a party and meander about having rp adventures.
Elona has plenty to do for everyone.

>not playing snail traveler

>>17198865
RP as ZUN. Go around as a gunner and throw beer at everyone.

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>>17198741
Neat, many thanks friend.
Any more sprite sheets to work with?

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>>17198927

Can static artifacts random stats still be rerolled with a scroll of superior change? Or was it nerfed? Because I've used 15+ scrolls without anything changing anyhow.

>>17199116
Seems like that "One bonus trait" thing has been completely removed in newer versions.

>>17199124
Yeh this would make sense. Fuck me for using all my scrolls in hope for a nice bonus.

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Things you can do in Elona:
Dungeon crawl
Tend a farm
Start a business
Design your dream home
Be a traveling minstrel
Punch out the gods
Start a harem
Genetically engineer your perfect waifu
Kill a small child to become a better person
Collect and drink the vomit of your true love
Have sex until you go insane
Be a masochistic snail tourist
Breed sentient beings for their flesh, milk, and shit
Actually follow the plot

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>>17199158
Be a traveling preacher
Destroy cities with a nuclear bomb
Go to prison
Escape from prison
Rot in prison in real time
Hang yourself while in prison
Be a necromancer
Own a small army composed of nothing but little girls
Be the little girl
Eat little girls
Sell little girls
Buy little girls
Have vanilla sex with little girls
Rape little girls
Drink little girls' vomit
Give little girls away to a pervert at Port Kapul
Seduce a little girl at a small farm town and then use a magical pen to copy her
Visit a mansion owned by little girls
Annoy one of the owners of the mansion owned by little girls
Be swarmed by an infinite number of little girls that look just like each other
Set an infinite number of little girls on fire until one of them drops a rare knife, then leave the mansion a burning wreck as they continuously catch on fire, self-replicate, and die

>>17199158
Bring an end
Make another dude bring an end
Eat a candy to bring an end
Build a golem
Unleash a violent giant on religious festivities
Make the enemy die
Choke on mochi
Get bashed to death after choking on mochi

>>17199158
Have a snowball fight.
Get pregnant.
Get someone else pregnant.
Have alien children burst from your body and get everyone else pregnant.
Steal a woman's panties off a perverted noble.
Throw those panties at your enemies causing them to go mad and kill themselves.
Develop a taste for human flesh.
Sell a small child's ill mother into slavery for the holidays.
Become a master chef.
Undergo sex change.
Kill little girls for eternal youth.
Get aids.
Become an arena fighter.
Kill yourself through illiteracy.
Tie up an npc in your home and repeatedly stab them without giving them the release of death.
Invoke the power of friendship.
Have your house set on fire by trick or treaters.
Kill a porno director with a couch.
Go to school.
Nuke the thieves guild.
Look on in horror as the thieves guild master strides through the nuclear hell scape towards you.
Try your hand at black jack.

>>17199158
>Actually follow the plot
I liked the main story. Being Bethel is suffering.

could have sworn a recent update made it possible to purchase scrolls of gain attribute for 3.5 million gold, but I can't find anything about it in the change log or release notes
is this real life or am I having a stroke? if real who sells them?

>>17199354
It's scrolls of growth, and they're stocked in souvenir vendors.
Anyone complaining about having too much gold ( Yacatect : NO SUCH THING ）should not be able to keep up with the scrolls of growth.

Anyone else feels that Elona has too much things to do, at least in combat?
I always like playing as a Jack of all Trades character so I have as many options available in combat as possible. But I just literally lose track of all the things to do.

There's of course meleeing, shooting.
From spellcasting, you have a lot of elemental spells with various debuffing effects, and then other debuffs like slow or vulnerabilities. I'm only medium level but I never really use them all, enemies die fast and I rarely need them. And most of the time they just resist it.
Then you can use scrolls and rods. You can have an entire build based on rods with duplicane. I always have a whole page in my inventory filled with rods, but I barely end up using them.
Then you have dozens of special abilities. Blood sucking, spell-like abilities, magic eyes, melee based abilities like shadow step, etc.
And then other items like grenades, magistus, potion throwing. I never tried all using all those potions that are laying around like poisons.

All these options are there, and the fastest way to kill shit is just spamming magic arrow.

>>17199158
>Actually follow the plot
Does it get better? It doesn't seem like we're all that involved in it for the first act.

>>17199364
Sounds like your character isn't a jack-of-all-trade at all but is a magic arrow specialist, to me.
You should upgrade to crystal lightning as soon as possible though.

>>17199370
The second act ends with Lomias and Larnneire getting ready to fight the final boss only to discover you already took care of it, so yeah.

How do I get more slots for custom AI setting? I only have 3 right now.

>>17199377
If they'd spent less time on drama and more time and actually fucking fighting, maybe they wouldn't get slaughtered each time i see them in a party quest.
Just saying.

>>17199374
I do try to use a bit of everything, though. Magic arrow is my strongest spell, but I only really use it if I get into trouble. Otherwise I use other spells and melee.
I try to be a hybrid and level up my weaker sides, but that spell is just much higher level than others.

Will I have to completely specialize on higher levels on the other two continents? I'd really prefer to keep a mixed playstyle.

>>17199395
Either you or your pet needs more Learning, I don't remember who.

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>>17199025
I do.
Wish Rebis would stop gushing over gyarus.

>>17199402
I think it may be both. My little girl has 14 available slots, whereas my zombie girl only has 5.

Aside from King Xabi and the vernis emo, what's the missable cards in act 1 ?
In act 2 there's none if i remember IIRC

>>17199399

Stop using magic arrow. It's a shit spell only used in the beginning.

>>17199434
Not him but magic arrow does the most damage for me too - naturally because I cast it the most. How does Crystal Spear stack up in terms of damage at the same skill level? Learned it off a dream.

Unrelated but are there targeted healing spells or just rain and self?

>>17199361
oh, what the hell is the point of that?

>>17199434
It's a great spell that can carry you all the way to the final boss of act 2.

>>17199426
the guys you meet in lesimas, kill them before you talk to them

>>17199339
I feel the same so far, the plot is what convinced me to try and complete act 1 in the first place since I am not a super efficient player.

>>17199377
That honestly makes me a bit sad. I loved act 1's story because you weren't the main guy. Sure you did things, but you were more a background player while the "Main" characters went on their adventure.
Not many games do that.

>>17199485
There's healing hand or something called that, you can heal an ally on an adjacent tile with that.

>>17198301

Ok. Did the pet cooking thing and that seems to be working. I stumbled onto a potion of potential on the jure festival and oh god they cost 1.5 million each? How is that newby friendly. Right now I'm doing trade routes to gather cash for a home deed. Should I save for a castle or is a regular home good enough?

Also, the same thing that always happens to me is happening again. Beat the puppy cave and now I don't know what to do next. Got me a defender to try and dungeon dive but I still feel unprepared.

>>17199491

It has terrible damage scaling. There's no reason to use it when better scaling spells exist. Of course you can use it if you grind it enough, but the fact remains that at the same spell level it's inferior to almost everything else.

>>17199485

Crystal spear is a straight upgrade, and magic ball is even better. Realistically the only combat spells you need are ice ball, ice spear, meteor, and magic ball for shit that resists everything but raw magic. Also healing rain scales better than hands.

>>17199511
Ｔｈａｎｋｓ，　ｓｅｅｍｓ　ｌｉｋｅ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅｍ．

>>17199426
Almost every "missable" from act 1 can randomly appear in the Void as a boss (King Xabi, Karam, Gwen the innocent, etc.), which is nice because it's also the only way to get the Mournblade if you forget to kill Orphe after beating Zeome. I'm not sure there are any permanent missables anymore, though there's probably something I'm forgetting.

>>17199485
Magic is good early on but it's a bad element to rely on for the endgame. Enemies will eventually get superb+ resistances to every element as you progress into level 100+ areas and awakened dungeons so it can be very difficult to deal high damage without nightmare or element scar backing things up. Not only can you not debuff magic resistance, the spells also have worse damage formulas and no additional effects like the lifesteal from nether.

If you want raw damage, you'll want to go with lightning or cold eventually backed up with wet-inducing spells like water bolt (or you can just spam Meteor if you get enough spell stock). Other good options include nether for lifesteal, chaos for status spam, or maybe sound/mind to reliably confuse enemy spellcasters. I guess it'd still be possible to power through enemy resistances with pure magic damage, but you'd be gimping yourself.

>>17199524
>I stumbled onto a potion of potential on the jure festival and oh god they cost 1.5 million each?
That's the souvenir vendor. He sells rare shit at like 20 times the price, aimed at people who have more money than they can spend.
With about 50 negotiation, those potions are only something like 30.000 gold each. Invest twice into magic shop keepers (cost maybe 150k gold total) so they are around level 110, then they sell it quite often.

After the puppy cave, how about you do some questing, explore the world, pick up new skills, try out everything in the game.
And once you get a bit better gear, try other random dungeons around ~level 10, and higher as you get stronger.

>>17199529
>ice ball, ice spear,
Doesn't that destroy items? You don't even have magatama equivalent that prevents fire from destroying items.

>>17199524

>I stumbled onto a potion of potential on the jure festival and oh god they cost 1.5 million each? How is that newby friendly.

Souvenir vendors have ripoff prices for everything. You don't buy from them until you're drowning in gold and want the stuff you can only buy from them.

The normal way to get potions of potential is by investing in magic vendors where they will cost at most 40kish with poor negotiation, from what I remember. The first round of Invest 50 isn't too expensive, I think it might've been as low as 50k?, and potions of potential start showing up at that point. Very, very rarely, though. Can't count on getting them after only investing once without savescumming or waiting through many restocks.

If you're feeling unprepared for dungeons stick to roaming from town to town doing the board quests you can. For money get a shop and a ranch and a BBQ set. Food shop selling steaks will provide you with the money to get potions of potential. I was too lazy to do it myself but you might as well do some cargo trading while you're on the town circuit for extra money and negotiation training.

I'd recommend saving any gear with a bonus to investment you see as it can add up to a big discount. I've only got like 5 pieces with only a single # each but it knocks off a full 100-200k off an Invest 50 of a million.

>>17199589
Not that guy, but where do you get a BBQ set?
I have the two furniture vendor at the Embassy at level 110 or so and never even seen it.

>>17199596
Pickpocketing them from Party Time quests is the reliable way to get them. I've also seen them show up as I Want It target items so after I trade for the set I just let the quest fail, but that relies on random chance of course.

>>17199596

I think most everybody steals them from a party. That's where I got mine.

I'm allergic to math so I don't know the formula for stealing (check the wiki if you care), but I spotted one in a fairly secluded corner and killed or teleported away the 3-4 dudes that were there and easily stole it with a Pickpocket skill in the low single digits. So I think basically anyone can steal them easily once you clear out any witnesses, unless you have comically low strength.

>>17199596
I got mine from a general vendor

>>17199589

Ok. Hit a roadblock since I got an etherwind mutation for hooves and now I need to wait for a lucky day to hit the casi no so I can wear my 7leagues again.

>>17199583

Ice spear destroys shit, but I haven't seen ice ball do it. I just tried to destroy shit with both of them and I couldn't get ice ball to break things. If anyone can confirm that'd be nice. Anyway, destroying shit isn't really a big concern of mine, I tend to just avoid shooting over something that's on a tile I want to pick up, and I'm not sure if it actually destroys things in the inventory of monsters.

At any rate, the extra damage for wet status is worth it. If there was a water bolt that shot oil I'd say go with fire but there's not.

>>17199623
That's hardly a roadblock. You know you can play the game without fast travel.

>>17199624
>extra damage for wet status
Isn't that for lightning though?

>>17199635

It works for cold too, and ice scales better than lightning.

>>17199633

I was making cash by running the port > vernis > noyel trade route so it does hurt a bit, but I can just farm plats in the meantime.

>>17199623

That's rough, but keep in mind that the necessity of 7 league boots is largely overstated. Just ignore the ones sending you to Noyel or Lumiest from the other side of the world and you should still be able to quest normally, barring maybe passing up the occasional 2d before it's too late if you don't think you can make it without missing a sleep window.

>>17199649
>you don't think you can make it without missing a sleep window.
Or just bring coffee.

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>>17199513
I'm 50/50 on it myself. It's one thing where you're not the chosen one, but it's another where your "story activity" is just "GO HERE, DO THIS, KILL THAT", it doesn't feel like you're actually accomplishing anything that saves/changes the world is what I'm suggesting.

Then again I'm only done with part 1 and grinding before I do 2.

>>17199536
>Orphe
I killed his ass as soon as he started vomiting that condescending bullshit. Nothing reeks of evil like pretentious "godly being" descending from out of nowhere to talk shit with flavor text of "YOU HAVE DIFFICULTIES MOVING AND FEEL NERVOUS ABOUT TO WET YOURSELF OMG THE PRESENCE IS SO STRONG I'M SCARED MOMMY/ETC": like fuck I do, get gibbed, blatantly evil fucker.

>>17199677
>I killed his ass as soon as he started vomiting that condescending bullshit
I think everybody has the same reaction.

>>17199677
>>17199687
I'm scared to kill main quest NPCs.

https://pastebin.com/j63v2bZe

Any advice for getting stronger? I am doing the Main Quest in South Tyris but the bosses kill both my pets and it ends up a battle of spamming my 5+ buffs and cure of jua while punching them.



Probably because I only just recently switched to martial artist? I've been doing a jack of all trades magic/melee/ranged. My ranged cross bow attacks seem to hit harder but still miss a lot too. Just dismiss pets and solo dungeon crawl until It's higher and find some good randart claws? I still have a few resist holes and pets are in hodgepodge gear.

Otherwise it's just fill resist holes, get speed up as much as possible, pump up magic vendors to 200 for potential pots, stat grinding, and rounding out my pets?

I haven't done the Valley of Hereafter yet because level 55+ dungeons and the previous story quest stuff gave me a run for my money (wasn't in any real danger on Vasda unless my buffs dropped, prob because max MR).

how do you guys deal with those packs rooms that have a million spell casters and you're at the door? Attribute shield and pray?

>>17199697
>door
Go back behind the wall and kill them one by one as the exit the room.
>what if there's no wall
Bitch you MAKE the wall.

>>17199695
How else are you going to get their one-time-only statues for your museum?
I make a point of murdering every unique NPC at least once.

>>17199677
I couldn't understand what the fuck he was talking about and shit him because I didn't see the free book I was supposed to read with everything that ever happened written in it

>>17199712
even poor Gwen? You're a monster

>>17199677
>spoilers
Kek, you had him nailed. gg

>>17199611
>>17199620
That worked, thanks. Found a BBQ set at a party. Teleported most NPCs away but two kept coming back and I killed them, hopefully won't have any bad consequences.

I got my BBQ set and turned it into paper to reduce the weight. It wont, uh... burn away, right?

>>17199741
>murdering people for BBQ
truly life is cheap in Irva

>>17199697
Once you get to the bottom of rehmido all you need to worry about is fire ice and mind resist and damage output. Meshera cocoon can summon blizzard lizards, griffins and peris and they will fuck you up way harder than meshera alpha. Eat more herbed curaria for more stats, I had 215 in my primary damage boosting stat and 100 in my combat and weapon type skills. Focus on leveling and gearing your golden knight, quickling, maybe the defender too. Go to Leold in the refugee camp and learn rampage. Keep meshera drunk and your party cheered at all times. Use rampage when meshera alpha is close to 25% hp. This floor resets when you leave, and you can't escape or return on it, so fight alpha near the stairs so you can back out if can't break through super regen. Spend your pets' AP on speed before the fight, and Rankis with Twin Edge on your primary melee damage dealer is very helpful.

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>tfw no Time Stop spell like on weapon procs
>tfw no fireball/grenade-like spell
>tfw no breath/cone shaped spell
>tfw no targeted teleport spell
>tfw no multicast buff spell like on Exile pet
>tfw no trap/glyph on ground/magic circle spell
>tfw no vampiric spell that damages and heals in the same turn

>>17199611

What's an easy way to learn pickpocket if I don't have access to the thief guild? I want a BQQ too.

>>17199820
Get teleport other spell and disguise kit or incognito spell.
Teleport away guard, get downstairs, use disguise, go left and up into the northwest room, talk to trainer.
Also use scroll/spell of return to home after taking a few steps, it will go off just when you're done.

>>17199820
Just channel your inner Greece for a few months, join the guild and learn the skill, then pay your debts and return to whatever you were doing. "I don't have access to the guild" is not a valid excuse because the only entrance requirement is in-game time, which can be had in infinite supply.

>>17199721
The original Gwen stops existing after you clear act 1 and is replaced with another character named Gwen.

>>17199813

>tfw no fireball/grenade-like spell
You mean fire ball?

>tfw no targeted teleport spell
Teleport other

>tfw no vampiric spell that damages and heals in the same turn
All nether spells

I know this comes up all the time, but what are some good feats? I'm really getting conflicting info.
The guide in OP post says luck is good, but the general consensus in the thread seems to be that it's way too expensive for less than a happy apple.

Playing a warmage now. I have vampirism, magic eyes, maxed HP so far.

>>17199884
*grows up

>>17199786
You reapawn unless you were foolish enough to try life on Inferno like the king.

>>17199893
Fireball explodes on top of you. I meant something that you can throw and cause an explosion in the middle of the room.
And with targeted teleport, I meant teleporting to a selected tile instead randomly.

>>17199893
>fire ball
He wants the ball to originate at a distant target, like a classic ball spell. It is a bit of a shock when you finally get an Elona ball spell and realize that it's a surround spell and not a targeted spell.

>targeted teleport spell
He means selecting the tile to which you teleport, like when you get control teleport in Nethack.

>>17199905

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Magistus

>>17199896
Luck feats are dogshit.
The good feats are ones that give special actions. The one that gives you Rage is a really fun one.
Of stat feats, most of them aren't worth it except maybe the stamina ones. They give a good chunk.

>>17199912
I'm using that and it's great. Not a spell though, scales with some crating instead of being an easily trainable spell.

>>17199921

Not to mention the damage is underwhelming even completely maxed out. I agree we could use some cooler more wizard like spells.

>>17199897
That's what they want you to think.

Rain clouds following you is the comfiest ether disease.
Also makes me less angry for that last Rachel book not dropping.

>>17199987

Yea that disease is actually beneficial. Wish I could have it all the time.

Can I and should I turn Living weapons into artifacts with Garroks hammer?

Kind of at a loss of how to make super weapons in this.

Do I lose karma for selling rotten food in my shop?

>>17200016
Nope.
P.S. You can avoid the karma penalty from delivering cursed food to a quest client by leaving town before they finish eating it (probably by teleporting till you near an edge) and re entering.

>>17199896

Speaking as a greedfag who always grabs luck when starting a character and always regrets it, seriously don't.

Quartermaster feat was buffed with the addition of bronze coins, I think. I'd definitely grab it early now, that extra coin will add up over time.

>>17200006
Living weapons can't not be artefacts already.
As for the best weapons, a living weapon is the prime candidate, but closely followed by normal weapon without any attribute artefacted with the hammer and filled with magic damage through artefact fusion.
And the inner god weapon. After lots of flying scrolls.

>>17200073
Aren't bronze coins barely useful?
You can upgrade your cart to 200+ with the coins you get while leveling up to level 30 or so. And I get enough coins without quartermaster to level my shopkeeper pet and occasionally buy food.
Honestly I never really needed more bronze coins than what I got.

Are there any other souvenir shops than the Noel festival and the one in South Tyris?

>>17200090

I don't know. It depends on how shopkeeper training prices scale up and what Ano adds for bronze coins in the future. My first shopkeeper costs 2 per training now and they seem like they could use more training every single day, so I never feel like I have enough. But I haven't passed through Yowyn in a while.

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Seyrea's please get your bleeding under control! I entered Palmia thinking some horrible monster came in and butchered the people considering all the blood in the streets.

>>17199896
I'd probably work on getting stamina and speed feats. If you cast spells look at getting the magical gene feats. They're like the ascetic line feats but for MP.

You can get all the feats in the game so I wouldn't exactly say getting the luck feat is a cause of regret or anything. It can only help you out. Probably other feats you want to focus on getting before the luck feat as you need quite a bit of luck to see even a marginal increase in things such as better gear finds in dungeons and crafting.

>>17200111
Larna

>do farming and cook everything
>110 gardening, 40 cooking skill

Is there a reason to use uncontrollable power? It seems rampage does the same thing but it doesn't give you confusion.

>>17200133
>Larna
I completely forgot about the existence of that town.

>>17200133
Give her an uncurse or vanish curse scroll, I'm surprised more people don't take care of their favorite adventurers since they'll frequently equip freshly picked up cursed shit and be unable to dequip it.

If you raise a skill or attribute to 2000, then take a feat that raises that skill/attribute, does the value go past 2000?

>>17200153
But. Larna is the shortcut to act 3.

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first jewel core was a let down

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>>17200155
I ended up just trading her a random miracle armor I was going to sell for the cursed item. The whole northern part of the city was overflowing with blood and for the greater good that cursed item needed to go.

>>17200146
I like uncontrollable. It's a really good buff as long as you keep in mind how it works. Aside from putting fury on you like what rampage does it also buffs your strength and speed considerably. Like for me it buffed them by 641 points. On the flip side it weakened my dexterity and willpower by 640 temporarily. The cost of hulking out I imagine. It also stacks with other buffs like Hero and speed as well as shift cores to drive attribute numbers and in turn your melee damage through the roof.

It does make you confused for a bit but you can often cheat confusion and keep attacking through it by spamming shadow step while confused until it's over. Overall, uncontrollable is a bigger and better rampage.

>>17200249
>Lv5871
I-Is that you Kai-sama

>>17200249

I see, I didn't know it boosted speed and str. In that case the confusion is negligible. Speaking of cores, do you use omega? I'm looking into getting one right now.

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>>17200202
The display will stay locked at 2000 however you can see the bonus with Yacatect's glasses. That extra bonus though does take effect though whether it be through feats or gear. For instance, I have some gear that increases the martial arts skill and while my skill is locked at 2000 the bonus is running and my fists do more than 2d255. So it's possible I guess for fists to get even stronger through nefia core farming but I personally wouldn't sacrifice resists to do it.

>>17200261
Hey there.

>>17200267
Yes, I use the omega shift core.

I'm kind of bothered by how overpowered martial arts is compared to everything else. 8 potential attacks in one turn followed by even more element attacks is crazy along with all the buffs you can get. The only downside is you sacrifice 2 whole slots of equipment.

My autism wants me to strive to see the biggest numbers on my screen humanly possible, but I don't want to punch things, I want to blow them up with magic.

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is this accurate?
>>17200323

>>17200389
Very much so.

Man, I should probably get an Omega core with my next wish.

>>17200389
I wonder if someone tried a 27 slot mutant relying on the gamma core.
Seems powerful.

>>17200389
Besides upgrading through the release that implemented them, how do you get these?

>>17200440
Ask the wish goddess nicely

>>17200451
>nicely
I'll ask warmly, thank you very much.

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>>17200389
webm version

>>17200389
>>17200501
What does that mean for those of us that don't play Guilty Gear?

>>17200604
It means you're a bad guy

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>>17197881
Reselling scrolls/books/rods/deeds of heirship in a single magic store brings me ~400k a day on average.
It's so easy (and tedious) I don't think I'll be missing it with the new update. Maybe then money will mean something and I'll have to try different ways of income.

>>17200604
Omega shift core gives big buffs for a period of time and slowly reduces life while it lasts. Sol Badguy is activating dragon install which for a short period of time gives him a big boost to his strength and speed among other things. Lasts for a brief amount of time and becomes dizzy when dragon install ends. Similarities are that they're buffs that greatly enhances power but comes at a cost.

>>17200133
Even adventurers have periods you know!

>>17199695
Actually in act 3 killing certain NPCs does seem to have consequences for the story. There's a ''good'' npc in the Cradle of Chaos that attacks you, but you don't have to kill them to proceed. If you kill them anyway it changes future events.

>>17199786
You mispelled Detroit.

>>17199596
For real? I've bought two of them at the embassy vendors, no joke.

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Ahh Mia-chan... With this we can finally become one

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>>17199596
Found a godly one in a dungeon, but beforehand I used the party stolen one.

I plan to do goblin run with my imouto, so if I were to get all the goodies obtained from updating between specific versions of the game, which version should I look for?
AKA which milestone elona version must I keep?
pic related.

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>>17201280

>>17201280
I wish eating her meat would give you a feat to understand cats

I see you can breed cute fairies to get more seeds, will that work with Yacatect's goose too? It's pretty capricious though, barely gives any plat.

I'm curious, why do I see a Elona thread every day on /jp/ since two years or more but I just saw by searching a video of the game on Youtube that the game is 7 years old or more ?
What make the game so great to see a thread about that on /jp/ for so many time ?

>>17200604
I was thinking of dragon install second form from Accent Core when I made it. It drains hp quickly until the round ends while increasing attack and move and attack speed.

>>17201408
This game is comfy to play, almost let do anything and is still developped.
There's a learning curve but it's not hard

>>17201408
It's one of a kind.
I keep searching for one like it, but no luck so far.

I started the game as female, did I fuck up?

>>17201498
Looks good so far.

>>17201501
Good, now I want to change my portrait I did as told in here http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:18329 but the portrait is too big to fit.
How do I fix this?

>>17201550
Character portraits are 80 pixels wide and 112 high. They also need to be saved in .bmp format. Use photoshop or gimp to work with sprites.
Don't get too attached to your character anway. You will learn and try out many things and start over again.

>>17201555
Thanks, I just I don't die too much from starving since getting food seems hard if you're not a baker.

>>17201473
Elin soon.
Let's hope it get good in a few years.
Hopefully it stay fully moddable.
>>17201555
>Don't get too attached to your character anway. You will learn and try out many things and start over again.

My 6yo Elea send you her regards.

>>17201582
Was that Elea your first and main character? If so, kudos to you.

>>17201408
There is a lot to do, as evidenced by the list earlier in the thread, and it gets frequent content updates.

>>17201559

Buy the first portable cooking tool you see and bash fruit trees for fruit. Food's only ever an issue at the very beginning of the game. You can eat food off the floor with no penalty although it can be cursed if you're unlucky. Vernis has some stick bread in the bakery plus there's some food in the house with the wizard and trainer and probably in some of the other houses.

>>17200233
Most of them are.

>>17201598
Nice, also I seem to have this problem that I can't equip any helmets or boots even though they're not that heavy, why is that?

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All that rage in comments section of the gunner class on the wiki. Delightful.

>>17201586
2nd one technically, the 1st died in a save corruption accident around elona 1.10 or something, so I redid her as close as possible, faithfully playing her each summer, even the busy ones.
Not that many hour in total though.

>>17201408
People have thousands of hours in the game and it's under active development adding tons of new shit all the time.

I've been playing for 2 years or so and it's nearly a different game at this point with new contients.

>>17201624
>playing her each summer
You kidding? So do I.

>>17201408
Cuz this is the best game evar. Not kidding.

>>17201408
The real reason is autism

>>17201607
You probably have an ether mutation that prevents you from wearing headgear. Check to see if you have animal ears in the mutations and feats section of your char sheet.

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>>17201709
How do I do that?

>>17201733
Shift+F

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>>17201660
Not kidding. This way I'll never get sick of it and it doesn't over-consume my finite time.
>>17201682
Autism akbar, too bad the normalfags will never understand that greatness.

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>>17201736
Dear god, how do I fix this?

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>>17201746
cure your corruption through bottle of the same name.
Not like you can neck yourself anymore

>>17201746
Potions of cure corruption, preferably blessed.

>>17201746
Go to Palmia, play blackjack. Since you're only level 10 you'll probably have shit luck so you'll have to savescum until you get 3 potions of ether corruption from your 10 starter coins. You get one if you win 5 times in a row.

>>17201746
>>17201607
I'm a bit confused because your race is human, but you have the racial feat of mutant. Either way it's probably that you haven't yet mutated a helmet or boot slot.

>use Ensemble at 75 stamina
>instant fail because you're too tired
Are you fucking shitting me

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Are you kidding me?
This is the fourth time I'm killed inside a town by a monster, what's going on?

>>17201746
Potions of cure corruption. You will need several and preferably blessed. And remember that with "poison hands" disease any potion you pick off ground may be permanently spoiled. So, if you find one on ground - drink it without picking up.

>>17201833
Someone in town wears cursed equipment which attracts monsters.

>>17201833
Either you, your companion or most likely a random adventurer has cursed gear that summons monsters.

>>17201473
Sure is. Man I remember how fun I had when I first found elona.

>>17201408
It's kind of like a single player MMORPG. Addicting, comfy, lots of things to do.

I got a Juere warrior with about 40 charisma and 30 negotiation (not high enough level for master thief) for my shopkeeper, also upped his potentials with bronze coins.
I dropped at least 200k worth of stuff in the store, ranging from cheap to expensive stuff, about 150 items in total. He only makes about 100-500 gold a day. Is he supposed to suck this bad?

>>17201833
What graphics pack and interface is that?

>>17201862
Shop rank greatly influences amount of customers and thus chances of selling. I started with a 15 negotiation 30 charisma citizen girl that got about the same results, but now many months later the shop rank is 51, she has 100CHA/195 negotiation and sells upwards of 100k a day. Make sure to drop by and train them every once in a while.

>beggar dropped platinum coin
wow is there literally any reason not to slaughter them always? I bet locals are thankful too for cleaning the streets

>>17201909
{Hard Gay} protector of the innocent will come to stop you

>>17201894
Found it.
+ All-in-one Graphics Pack 1.66 (Outdated, Elona+ 1.66) from pastebin.

Great, I hire a guard for my house only for him to kill me each time I go there.

>>17201927
I'm fairly certain you can update it by simply comparing the .bmp files of it and the latest version, and copying over sprites from the new sheet into the old one.

>>17201919
He can't stop me if I cover myself in little girl juices

>>17201945

Become strong enough to string him up on a sandbag and torture him for eternity.

>>17201945
yeah, that's stupid desu. That's why I use a private younger sister military force to kill those "guests" violating NAP by not leaving my property.

>>17201950
Yeah I gotta try that. Still though, is there an enhanced default spritesheet or something? I'm not very fond of seeing Asuka as the rogue boss or Meiling running around as an npc adventurer, and other stuff like that.

>>17201833
Someone drank from the fountain.

>>17201983
I dunno man, I've used the default for years. The new E+ defaults look great to me. I'm still really happy they reworked all the sprites from the vanilla ones, the defaults we got now are less like a step and more like a whole staircase upwards.

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Oh come on they don't even have hands

So, what is the best town?
Where you spend most of your time?

>>17202008
Derphy is objectively the best town. The only place where people are truly free

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>>17202003
When your music is so bad a horse gains the power of telekinesis to throw a rock at you

>>17202008

Palmia is the best gameplay town but lumiest is the comfiest.

>>17202003
Try sisters' mansion. There isn't any high level character besides a younger sister inside the building so as long as you play outside you're safe from rocks.

>>17202008
Port Kapul for me. Love the sea side atmosphere, and it has just about everything I want including the fighters guild.

>>17202008
Palmia.
But Vernis feels like a second home. The music there is super comfy.

>>17202001
That one spritesheet in + Elona Plus Beautify and * Unnamed graphics pack was the thing I needed. Thanks anyway.

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>>17202018
At least Gwen likes it. Brought her behind a building to show my musical skills.
>following suspicious skeletons

To those who invested lots (200+) into their magic shop, what changed? More stocks of useful scrolls?

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>>17202047
Cute skell

>>17201945
Use incognito scroll then fire him.

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What the christ. I want to eat it

>>17202162
Press t and use it.

>>17199158
>>17199257
>>17199290
>>17199330
I really feel tempted to throw an infographic/collage together using all these to try and convince people to play Elona.
Any anons mind sharing a couple of screenshots?

>>17202383

Openly inviting people will just make this thread, which is one of the only places on this website not infested, a worst place.

>>17202383
Go through the old threads, you'll find plenty of material. But I wouldn't try to convince people to play, if they want to they'll come on their own, as recent increase in activity has shown.

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At what gardening level should I start planting herbs so they won't wither?

>>17202397
>>17202404
Hmmm. I guess you're both right.
I was honestly mainly thinking of doing as a little side project and to show my friends. But when it comes to them I could just as easily pull out my laptop and show them rather than make a meme image.

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>>17202408

They will ALWAYS wither and it fucking sucks. The only way to combat this is to horde tons of kumiromi rejuvenation gems. I have 5 farms and 10 gems and it still isn't enough even at 256 gardening. You can look at the wiki to get a better idea of levels and seed types though.

>>17202432
Thanks, anon.

Sorry if I missed this in the guide but how do I customize and change my character sprite?

>>17202404
>if they want to they'll come on their own
You know a lot of "new" people are just old players returning because of patches. I doubt people who like roguelites are going to look in /jp/.
There's occasionally a mention on /v/ which sends some new blood, but that's all.

what can I do with useless jewel cores? will my pets sell them in town?

Does high quality cooked food train more than stomafilia?

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Pffft

>shoot firebolt
>apple catches fire
>apple turns to sherbet
this is not a fire bolt this is bolt of conjure food

>>17202490
Anyone?
I really like one of the NPC sprites and I want to use it.

>>17202717
Bear in mind that using an NPC sprite means you no longer face directions or have a walking animation.
If you still want to, I'm pretty sure it's an inspect option. You will need to edit character.bmp and place the desired sprite in one of the custom slots beforehand.

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Should I jump for joy?

>>17202782

That's garbage. It's nothing but useless enchantments.

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viva la revolution.
Monarchy is no more.
I didn't even start the fire

>>17202815
What even makes an item good in elona. I haven't played long enough to be able to tell.

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>>17202782
Fear/confusion are two of the most common immunities you can find on equipment, it has a single not-very high resistance, and it can't be patched up with artifact fusion because of the sheer amount of garbage stat-ups and maintains. If you're fairly early in the game then definitely keep it on hand because the attributes will come in handy, but it's not going to be something you keep with you for very long.

Even as someone who gets hot and bothered if I don't have all of my stats maintained by equipment, those gloves are complete shit. Sorry.

>>17202829
Resistances, immunities, special bonuses like spell damage/extra attacks/interlock/etc.

>>17202782
>almost no resists
No.

>>17202829
It's mostly four things. Resistances, condition immunities, extra attacks/increased spellpower/high amounts of bonus elemental damage/other similar offensive buffs, and good invokes on weapons.

Anything else is going to be either highly situational or completely negligible later on. In fact, it's best to have as few maintains or stat/attribute-ups on your equipment as possible (except maybe Speed) because it eats up space that could have been used for artifact fusion.

>>17201660
Hey, I too find myself drawn back to Elona every summer. Strange isn't it. Too bad work takes up a lot of my time. I did however play this back when I was a NEET.

Does anybody have more of OP images?

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>>17202731
Sorry for the late reply, I'm enjoying the game so much I lost track of time.
You mean replace user graphics 2 and so on?
I don't have to start over right?
Btw here is my profile and I want to use the Eila sprite from the graphics pack.

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this is probably related to the stayer splicing bug

>>17203299
>You mean replace user graphics 2 and so on?
No, I mean you need to take character.bmp, open it up in an image editor, copy and paste the sprite you want to use into one of the custom icon slots, then change to that sprite by using the in game appearance editor.
I am assuming you are trying to use an NPC Sprite and not a PCC.

>I don't have to start over right?
Nothing custom graphics related will ever require that.

>>17203299
Is the image a static sprite or has it multiple sprites to simulate movement? In the second case you need to put the file into your graphic/PCCs folder and rename it to pcc_body_3 or whatever number comes after your last body sprite. Change your body sprite by pressing c and then p.

>>17203299
https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz

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>>17203416
It's a sprite
>>17203409
I assume custom icon slots is where I put Eila, but the game still doesn't give me the option to change sprite, only body parts.

>>17203238
Check the archive. I make a new one for every thread, but I've only OP'd 8 threads so far and the first was just a Rueken pic.

>>17203469
You can't do that anon, the player sprite is intended to always be animated and thus uses a 128x192 spritesheet of 32x48 frames of animation. The files are in the graphic folder and are called pcc_body_(number). They're selected with the body option in the appearance menu.

If you REALLY want your static sprite, here are the steps:

-Copy a pcc, get rid of the sprites in it and copy over your static sprite on all 16 rectangles
-Align them properly so that it doesn't spaz around in-game
-Have a solid background
-Do not save color space info+save as 24bit R8G8B8
-Name pcc_body_anynumberafter2 and put in elona/graphic folder (with the other bodies)
-Select it under body in-game, don't even need to close the game for stuff like this

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>>17203498
I tried but for some reason there is some clothes left even though I set everything to zero ( compare right to left sprite).

>>17203598
That's the armor you are actually wearing. Find a dresser (in Palmia is one) and you can disable it.

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>>17203612
Thanks, finally done.
Here is my cute pet.

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>>17203598
Alternatively use this. Didn't take very long to edit

>>17202432
Withering isn't even that much of a problem, the problem is when you harvest them and they don't grow back, leaving an empty tile. There's a good chance of that occurring even at a high (100+ for me) gardening.

>>17203691

That can be fixed by killing Amurdad. You can never permenantly solve withering.

>>17203369
Maybe those behemoths and these random people just really like your fruit trees

>>17203369
The tree of knowledge.

Updated monster girl spritesheet when?

Does AP speed upgrade cost take into account the speed gained through evolution? If so, is it better to wait until at least 500-800 cap is reached before evolving a pet (or does it even matter, in the grand scale of things)?

>>17203667
That looks pretty nice, thanks!
How did you make it btw?

>>17204191
Yes it does, since evolution just adds levels and the AP is checking the base.

wow awakened dungeons are amazing, every single kill is giving AP

>>17204268
I mean evolution as in using hearts, e.g. Magic Heart, God Heart. It often adds stats, incl. speed, which is why I'm wondering if it's counted in to AP upgrade cost.

>>17204374
I know. It just gives them x more to y stat. If they had 80 speed and you add 20 from pet evolution they'll then have 100 and will be treated as such for AP costs.

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Alright, my archer pet is now where I need her to be. Attributes capped and with her marksman and bow skill at around 1000. With that the final member of my party is now complete and I just need to finish up wrapping loose ends with gearing my pets. Not long now until I begin my descent into the void and reach void floor 6666 or have Kai die trying. Hopefully he makes it to 6,666 and stands on the heap of corpses as the strongest character I've made. Then after that I'll retire him to his harem and that will conclude his adventure where he'll only come out for additions to the story.

First order of business now is putting in an enormous order of descent potions and gain attribute scrolls for artifact fusion that I'll use on my pets gear. Wish goddess chan is going to be busy.

People have gotten into the code before. Why can't we look and see if the void really does end at 6666?

>>17204698
I'd hazard a guess and assume the Void doesn't actually end at 6666, but at some ridiculously huge number, at which point going past that would probably crash the game.

>>17204718
Has no one tried to get to the bottom of it before? In wizard mode for example?

>>17204718
Maybe 65536. Probably 4294967296.

>>17204753

I guess with wizard mode and elosnack you could theoretically create a perfect maxed character with min maxed artifact fused equipment. I don't think anyone has tried. It would still take a while.

>>17204780
Maybe you can simply change current max void level then cast return to go there.

I just encountered a sin gorilla for the first time and watched in horror as he destroyed the ground around me in such a flashy animation. I thought for sure I was insta dead.

Do I just ignore picking up most items in dungeons if I don't have any scrolls/rods of identify with me?
My inventory(73lbs) is filling up so fast going to dungeons feels like such a damn chore since I'm rushing back and forth between them, my cave, and the towns to store or sell shit. Level 12 right now.

I didn't have this problem when I played 2 or 3 years ago so I must be doing something really different.

>>17205210
Don't bother with equipment unless sense quality tells you it's miracle or better.
Other than that unless it's high value low weight I don't bother either.

Hording is not necessary. Just take what you need/want instead of trying to sqeeze every bit of gold out of every dungeon.

>>17205210
Probably your sense quality skill is too low (or you didn't learn it). Once you can at least tell the quality of items even if you can't completely identify, you can ignore everything below miracle/godly.

>>17205147
Speaking of animations destroying the environment, extermination breath is just so satisfying to use.

>>17205220
I pick up every piece of gear I find and dump it in my shop
The profit is modest but it is fairly easy if I drop nonessential scrolls and potions before starting a dungeon.

What kind of benchmarks should I meet before trying to kill Amurdad? I need those fucking scissors.

>>17205244
That's viable with enough weight lifting and strength, but probably not so much at level 12.

>>17205220
>>17205222
Thanks, that sounds about right. Thought I had something last time that gave me an idea if I should identify or drop something. Looking at my stats, sense quality is really low. Gonna have to work on training that up before I go delving again.

Does shield tonfa train shields?
I never used anything else in my offhand and my shield skill is training like crazy.

Does it add bonus from shield skill too?

So for gods, I've been grinding favor and getting their pet / gem stone / weapon but what's the end game?

What's the god I should stick with power gaming wise at max level? Kuromi?

>>17205344
Lulwy because speed is god.

>>17205248

Right now that guy is the goal in the distance that I'm working towards. I'm going to try and one shot him with omega core, charge attack, fury, divine wisdom, and meteor.

>>17205344
Kumiromi up untill endest game levels because of that stamina recovery.
Once your stamina goes over 300 that's probably not going to matter anymore so you should switch to someone else.
It mostly depends on your playstyle, but Lulwy is an all around good choice.

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why can I only brew 10 tea at a time? I'm pretty sure I've made >10 riceballs at once before.

>>17205413
Riceballs make 10 per craft, so making 10 times would yield 100 items.
I've never been able to select higher than 10 there.

I haven't had a lucky day in years. I have thousands of materials help

>>17205436

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Fetter_of_Earth

You know what to do billy.

>>17205421
well fuck ano then, this is a pointless limit
as if pot for fusion isn't an unnecessarily tedious as it is with +enchant levels being treated as separate entities

How do people run with more than two pets before 3rd chapter (where you get artifact fusion, I assume)?
I've run into serious resistance bottlenecks with mine where no matter how high I grind up their other stats getting low enough in void gets them gibbed. I already gave them all +res artifact eqips I could find but the measly resists from the rest of the normal gear just aren't enough.

Why is my meditation not training at all even at 400% potential?

>>17205593
Are you regaining MP?

My tourist is coming along well I think.
Level 13. Still trying to get all the non guild skills but am slightly sidetracked by spending plat training alchemy to eventually get duplicane and creating horse abominations until I had enough gene engineer to give my little girl cooking.
Only died twice so far even with being unable to find decent gear. Probably gonna fail a couple of quests to get my fame under control.

>>17204599
When you do go on your final void crusade Kai I hope you give updates on any close calls or unforseen issues. Even if you dress it up in rp speak.

>>17205623

Yea

Is there really no gauge article on the wiki or am I just too retarded to find it?

Does killing void bosses have an effect on spawning dungeon level? Suddenly I have 200+ dungeons everywhere while even ~130 are a pain to get through with my shitty gear.

>>17204599
Are you going to be making a new character or taking a break from Elona after that's done, do you think?

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>>17205501
crafting, by me and my pets
I sometimes pop into nefia first floors to check for deposits near the stairs and big daddies

Are the "get low HP for bonus stuff" AP feats worth getting? I'm thinking of dim + MP shield, not sure how useful dim will be though.

>>17205683
My crafting is lagging behind. Not sure how to bring it up to par though aside from grinding cheapest recipes with platinum for 300%+ and material scrolls, though even reading ~250 or so at once didn't give as much stuff as I was hoping for. ~1000 at once would be a decent number I suppose.

Pets help but there's the Catch 22 where I can't get more pets until I get the gear to stop them getting melted.

>>17205726
only one can make something over night, so it doesn't matter

>>17205731
I thought it was only because my other pet's skill was low. Guess that's out, then.

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I really have to make sure to donate some more fish to the cat goddess. Thank you for your statues that give 2500 turn luck. I'll put this to good use as I attempt to craft even better stuff for my pets.

>>17205344
This guy gets it. >>17205361
You should probably stick with a god that will benefit your playstyle and help cover any weakness your character has. As you go through the game and your character develops, certain gods will fall and rise in how beneficial they are to you.

I personally really like Jure's heal for my character at the stage of the game I'm in. Silence is one major problem I haven't been able to stomp out and Jure's prayer is a solid counter to it insofar as I still have healing options through her. Silence is a major problem in the void so I feel much safer with Jure's prayer. I think have enough stamina to spam special actions so I don't really feel like I need Kumiromi's help.

As far as Lulwy is concerned, she can definitely be useful in helping prop up speed but I'd temper expectations of speed past 2000. The void enemies I fight have around 1300-2000 speed currently. I can buff myself to 4000 speed temporarily and you would think that all the enemies would look frozen to me but that's not the case. Sometimes I get 2 actions to their 1 and sometimes it's still 1:1.

>>17205501
Crafting and shop trade ins have carried my pets so far. I'm just starting to get around to artifact fusion for them as I've mainly focused on just using it for myself. Before I take advantage of artifact fusion I want to craft good base equipment for slots that I feel I could do better.

>>17205624
Will do.

>>17205673
I don't intend to make a new character but who knows. When some time passes to recharge the grinding batteries and I have time might do a lets play. No promises on that though.

For the most part, I just see myself hopefully giving useful advice to a new generation of godslayers in these threads and fading into the background. It's time for new powerful adventurers and I look forward to seeing how people in these threads progress.

>>17204234
Look in the pastebin, download the chinese anon graphics pack. Use your image editing program of choice, you can take existing pccs and shift around color values/hues or just rework them entirely.

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Well it's a start. Soon I can play with the big boys.

>>17206151
To update on riding AP gain, unmounting gave me a massive boost - a void level that gave me 1 AP per kill now gives 10. Turns out riding is shit this game, oh well.

>>17206151
Cute house.

>>17206270
Thanks. I've put a lot of effort into it back in the day.

>>17205319
Tonfas are shields and train both shield and unarmed, yes.

What is turns to in-game time ratio on average?

First time with this game, using +Custom. I'm level 6 and still can't complete the puppy dungeon. Am I retarded? Should I still be grinding skills or whatever at this point? My little girl is probably so disappointed in me...

>>17206389
The puppy dungeon is a static four floor dungeon where every floor's random ever time you move between floors. You can't actually complete it, it's there for grinding stats, skills and items.

>>17206389
You "complete" it once you rescue that dog at the bottom floor. You get the quest for that in Vernis.

>>17206407
>>17206436
Yeah, sorry. Should have specified, haven't managed to get the dog and get out yet

>>17206451
To rescue the dog you need to have an empty ally slot, just so you know. Also, once you do have the dog with you you can't teleport out.

Just wondering, has anyone actually kept the dog for themself?

>>17206389

Level means very little in this game, but all the guides will tell you to mostly avoid combat at the very start, so no it doesn't necessarily mean you're retarded. If you're having trouble with the Puppy Cave then put it off for now, the dog won't go anywhere. Go from town to town doing the board quests you can and putting the platinum into new skills. Check every adventurer you see in towns for trades you can make. Teach your little girl cooking and tailoring/carpentry as soon as possible. If you're lucky you might wake up with a nice upgrade.

How do I make my pet use Zero Shoot through Custom+? It doesn't show up on the list of actions (Move Forward etc.) even though Leold taught her it.

why do I keep finding mag-abyss every 2 feet?

Also is it worth using blessed flying scrolls on Vesda's wing? 15st pisses me off because it pushes me into heavy armor and I can't heal pets or res very well.

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>give dog a sword
>dog slashes X
is this how it works?

>>17207040
>why do I keep finding mag-abyss every 2 feet?
They upped the drop chance of every single rare item by like x5 in 1.66. This is to balance the anti-savescumming trigger.

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>>17207090
Apparently it's a meme in Japan.

>>17207099
>tacticool doggo

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>>17207090
>is this how it works?
Knowing Elona, it probably works like this

>>17207113
He DOES seem to have a hand slot and two leg slots

>>17206297
Entirely depends on your speed. The faster you go the more turns you get per real time so days go MUCH slower.

Is curtain of smoke useful? Just got it and had no idea it had even been added to the game.

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Got into South Tyris a few days ago, I'm saving up AP of my pets (around 1500 right now) in order to get the barrier trait as their first AP upgrade, but I've reached the point where very few enemies give AP anymore, and I can't proceed further into the void either. Should I keep saving up or spend everything into speed + chara quality up?

>>17207190
U wot? Grind a little, upgrade your gear to +10. chow some herbs, and craft on a lucky day for resists and you should be strong enough to swim in AP. I'm not even in South Tyris yet, but with total earned AP per partymember over ~2500 I still get AP from pretty much everything. Dungeon DLs I have been doing are 100-120 though. Also getting AP when it is already at max makes it easier to earn more later, something to keep in mind.

>>17207223
>Also getting AP when it is already at max makes it easier to earn more later, something to keep in mind.
How does that work? Didn't AP stop growing after reaching the 2000 max value?

Where does a fire dragon child spawn with the highest %?

>>17207363
Just bumble about in the Puppy Cave.

>>17205778

How does a high level holy veil stack up for silence? Of course it requires identifying monsters that can silence before they hit you but that shouldn't be an issue when you're far enough into the void for silence to be a big problem.

>>17207359
Yes it does, but when you get AP after reaching that max, it deducts from the future calculation of whether you even get any AP. Because as you know, the more you have earned, the harder (read: higher stats) enemies you need to defeat to get any more. So the AP is not completely wasted even if you get points after reaching the 2k cap.

>>17206463
I recently did a run through lomas keeping him alive playing a low level warmage, puppers has given me a few scares here and there and a couple savescums when bolts went through me to get him, remember to cast slow on the little bastard so you can sprint ahead and kill things before he nips at him. Its fun, reminds me of the challenge where you keep dogmeat alive in fallout 1.

>>17207407

Can you not use the call familiar special action to send him back to the town?

>>17207381
That has the net effect of canceling however much you went over by though, no?
In that you're not being penalized for going over the cap but it's not like you're getting a bonus for doing so.

>>17207363
Puppy cave or wilderness
FIRE@DRAGON

That said, the chances are much shittier if you're higher level

>>17207419
He's not yours, you can't make him wait or anything like that so he'll just midlessly follow you like a lost puppy, use your leash tactically.
Besides, where's the fun in just sending him away when you could be trying to protect him and risking your butt? Don't be a bitch anon

>>17207422
Yeah I think so. Just saying you don't need to be scared of wasting your AP after hitting 2000, so you can grind with no worries.

>>17207436

Why would I choose to protect such a lowly creature?

>>17207425
I recommend throwing the first monster ball you get at the first firedragon you can weaken in puppy cave. If you mutate arms onto them their high life makes them a companion you can keep for the rest of the game.

>>17207448
I get that you're a cuckchanner so you don't feel protective of things like wives and girlfriends but not wanting to protect a cute puppy is literally inhuman. Evaluate your life.

>>17207448
A magical mystical box which makes it so that any edible item currently inside it will not rot.

>>17207462

Lol this is jp otaku culture buddy we eat puppies for breakfast.

>>17207466
The mystic food box of corpse holding is great, especially when you just drop it on a pets lap and forget about it while you starve to death in the wild hunting nuts. Do they spawn anywhere else outside of that quest though if you lose or accidentally sell a pet with one?

>>17207462
It's that edgy guy that starts every post with an empty line, look for it you can identify every single post he's made that way.

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>>17207363
It's not about where, it's about when.
LET'S RAGNAROK

>>17207477
Yeah, maybe seven years ago.

Alright got lucky day, haven't crafted in years. Is there an optimal spending of your materials when leveling? I see some recipes share in common rare materials and I'm guessing it's mostly spam low level shit with high mat stock so I save them for the good shit?

>>17207480
You can use the little sister quest to get duplicates, even more than one at a time.

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>>17207477
>lol
But I guess its only natural if you do idolize asians.
>>17207483
I can't tell if its worse than reddit spacing or not.

>>17207494
>You are fired

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>>17207494
Try mine

>>17207518
>>17207494
>hiring male maids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikTOJ79fP8A

>>17207518
I think you got my base name instead, I've been too lazy to upgrade to Palace because I've got 3 extra floors to clean up first.