Touhou Gameplay Thread

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>>17169336
Just finished 1cc mountain of faith with all shot types.
What game should I try next?
I already have a 1cc on PCB but youmu and prismriver sisters get on my nerves.

>>17169438
UFO

>>17169438
Imperishable Night and Ten Desires, those are easy.

>>17169438
PC-98 always

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This is clearly a bug.

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I was about to give up, and said to myself "one more try" and I got it, my first Hard mode 1cc! I've been playing 2 hours per day for a week. Now I should finish the IN chart and get a Marisa clear on TD, I failed like 2 times already near the end against Miko, sometimes I forget to use trance mode.

>>17169687
It happens when you clear a spell card in practice mode in a stage you haven't played before with that character. It's a bug.

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I found some pixel sprite 2hus to decorate charts with because they fit the pixel-y aesthetic well, but they're lacking some of the newer ones. Does anyone know if the creators made ones for the newer 2hus?

>>17170305
charts don't need extra graphics, half the point was that they're relatively compact and direct

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>>17170305
I downloaded those as .ico files, all the games are inside that folder now.

>>17170305
Old 2hous are the only good ones anyway, why the fuck would you want inferior newhous?

>>17170320
Thank you for your opinion. I for one however think that they can add a little cuteness to the charts, provided they're used sparingly, of course. You don't have to use them if you don't want to. I just want to know if there were ones for newer characters available.

>>17170382
My original plan was to have 1 sprite related to each game sitting on top of the game's name, but then the newer entries would be empty, which is why I asked.
Now that I think about it though it might make it look too crowded, so I'll probably scrap that plan anyway, but I'm still interested in whether or not newer ones are available.

>>17170382
Fuck off, /v/.

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>>17170383
I've had a tiny Mima on the corner of my chart for a while but I think if a player wants to decorate their chart they can do it however they want without needing any special resources.
Still haven't really progressed at EoSD hard. I might try bouncing between other games on hard to see if I'm just in a rut due to monotony.

After the Doremy midboss fight in LoLK's extra stage, she sometimes drops a bomb, but other times drops a 1up. What determines this?

>>17170320
Adding something small is only going to add like 10 KB. Don't add something gigantic and detailed obviously.

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I recently finished SA, was somehow able to do it even after dying some three times each on stages 4 and 5. Thinking about whether to take on UFO next or make an honest attempt at the original trilogy; tried them a while back and didn't care for them at all.

>>17169843
Are you doing things in any specific order? It seemed like you tried to do things in release order but temporarily skipped SA and UFO

>>17170776
I think the guy is saying that adding fluff like sprites detracts from the intent of keeping things minimalistic

>>17170746
If you bomb/die on Creeping bullet, she'll drop a bomb, otherwise a 1up. If I recally correctly, Reisen losing a shield is fine, provided that you put the shields up before the spellcard starts.

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>>17170821
Yes I played all of them in release order, did an Easy 1cc on SA and UFO, both are amazing games, but I'm really bad at them as they even gave me trouble on the easiest difficulty back then, so I was skipping the Normal 1cc on those for now. While I was busy with PCB and IN I've been trying on and off to 1cc DDC but Seija is just mind-breaking for me.
Congrats on your SA run, getting past Orin is one 'hell' of a job.

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>>17170900
Thanks, man. I think if you were able to finish PCB on hard, you can totally do SA normal. Mods might not be your thing, but this helped me figure out the last few bosses; it's pretty much a glorified Spell Card Practice patch for SA.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=19187.0
Good luck with whatever you choose to go for next.

>>17170821
>I think the guy is saying that adding fluff like sprites detracts from the intent of keeping things minimalistic
yes, which happens to be exactly what the original dude concluded, so there you go

>>17169336
why does my EOSD crash whenever I day? Apart from being a good motivator to 1CC the game it is pretty annoying

Is EOSD stage 5 made out of crushed dreams?

>>17170925
I will check that mod out, thanks. About PCB.. I only got it because it's an easy game compared to the rest and still barely got the 1cc wasting all my lives and bombs, I'm not good enough for that difficulty level yet.

>>17171959
On most games except for IN and MoF Stage 5 was always the most challenging part of the run for me. I usually follow the pattern of not dying until I reach that stage, then poorly win that boss fight and face Stage 6 with a few lives/bombs left in stock. Doing good in Stage 5 determines whether I get the 1cc or not.

What shot should I use going for my first 1cc in SA? I'm thinking Marisa C or Reimu A. Marisa C has a great survival bomb, though her shot power unfortunately seems low. Reimu A seems to have great shot power and an average bomb. Which would be more of a boon? Or are there other shot types I should consider? Suika's homing seems too weak to consider too seriously, and Alice, Aya and Patchy seem hard to use(and thus bad for survival by association).

>>17171959
No, that's SA stage 5.

>>17172378
Try them all; I'd say that only Suika doesn't have a particularly good gimmick, though she's not terrible either.
>Alice, Aya and Patchy seem hard to use
Alice just has a very short and weak bomb, but her shots are pretty strong, and she plays normally. With Aya, you have to keep your options pointing forward, which takes a bit of effort, but you get a top-tier bomb. With Patche, the shot-changing mechanic gives you a huge utility advantage and really isn't that hard to get used to. It's my favorite.
In any case, Yukari's warp gimmick will save your ass in stages 5 and 6, so I'd recommend it for a first clear.

>>17172378
Yukari makes SA absolutely trivial.

>>17171959
Just stream bro
Try practice first. You need to wait for them to finish firing their barrages.

>>17172525
>absolutely trivial
Post your LNN and scores.
But yeah Reimu A is the way to go for first timers.

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>>17169438
PCB is a good game to 1cc with all shots though, they are all good like in EoSD
You should definitely check out IN
>>17169843
Hard mode already? Way to go anon!
>>17170582
>Still haven't really progressed at EoSD hard
Maybe clearing normal with other shots will warm you up
>>17170821
>12.7
You meant 12.8 and you should check it out anon, tons of fun
>>17172378
I would say ReimuA, I found ReimuB to be very rookie-friendly though.


This chinese fangame called Phantasm Dream has a very weird option. You can choose a girl, a shottype but then you can also choose which bomb you wanna use apparently.
I wanted to add it to the chart but I don't know what to do about it, different bombs don't seem that much of a big deal to get their own rows

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>>17173131
>>17172525
>>17172498
I tried Reimu B at a friend's behest and got it after a few tries and a couple hours(earlier today)of practice on stage 4-6 bosses. I figured I'd try Suika since I never seem to use(or know when to use)Yukari's border ability and I actually do use the auto collect ability.

And unfortunately I dunno what the fucking hell happened, but it looks like my replay got corrupted somehow. Upon reaching Utsuho, I died 5 times(and stupidly at that)to Atomic Fire "Nuclear Fusion", something that didn't happen, and the replay ends there. Fuck, I wanted to add it to my repertoire of 1cc replays. Is there a bug that can cause something like this to happen? I'm using the vsync patch if that matters.

Pic is Exhibit A.

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>>17173293
Exhibit B

>>17173293
It's just a desync. Sometimes they happen and to my knowledge there's not really anything you can do about it (though there are a few specific things that can cause a desync, sometimes it's completely random). Congrats on the 1cc though.

>>17173293
Known issue, probably:
>The replay desynchronization bug from Mountain of Faith still exists. It usually occurs in full-game replays on Utsuho's first non-spell when the replay is started from stage 6 or fast-forward is used anytime after the start of stage 6. Starting playback from an earlier stage can prevent this, provided no fast-forwarding is done after stage 6 starts.

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>>17173308
>>17173330
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, good to know you can sort of work around it somewhat.

I cut it a little close, mostly because the last 2 spells are pretty hard. I died twice to both of them, but had plenty of surplus lives that I still got it.

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>>17170305
>>17170383
Here you go. Those sprites are from PatchCon, touhou doujin game, while the new ones are made by reddit.

>>17173131
Thanks Phanton you are my hero, apparently you got 3 lunatic 1cc's more after your first one in Imperishable Night.

So what's the best PC-98 emulator, again

Anex is supposed to be trash, which means I'll have to redo those Normal 1ccs once I'm done/I get bored with the Windows games.

>>17173687
NEXT or Neko Project II

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ReimuC is so awkward to use holy shit

I have no idea how pic related happened in one go

>>17173410
Thanks a lot anon.

so I can do a no focus 1cc with medicine in lunatic but for some reason I keep getting destryed when playing with lyrica; am I missing something or medicine is just way too OP?

>>17174191
Medicine and Aya are both leagues beyond every other character in the game, yes.

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1614 bytes. God, I'm bored.

>>17174325
>K/R
>HR/N/A/HY
?????????

>>17174203
Against AI*

>>17174339
Kanzenmuketu / Regasii modo
HaRu / Natu / Aki / HuYu

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>>17173131
Honestly I don't think doing Normal would really help much, since most of the cards I die to are because of random bullets or are original cards not present in Normal. I generally just warm up by doing failed runs where I die before Stage 3, and when I get a good run going that's the one that gets me almost to the end.
And speaking of almost to the end, I managed this run just now. I could've kept going just for the sake of unlocked Stage 6 in spell practice but I think it's better to end it after that last death so I could save the replay.
I really fucked up during the stage portion of Stage 5 and died without bombing twice, I think I would've actually gotten the 1cc if I gave in and panic bombed during those sections.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43422
If any anons are willing to watch the run and comment on what I need to focus on improving (I mean I need to improve my dodging skills in general obviously) that would be greatly appreciated.

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>>17174325
495

>>17174367
Why are the later games missing squares? Is just an empty square meant to be a clear with filled and dots being more than that?

>>17174367
tfw even ants have 1cc and you dont

>>17174394
You're a cheeky cunt mate, I'll give you that.

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>>17174354
Cut the middle man and just use nip characters for everything, autist.

>>17174374
Whole block is plain clear, dot NB, filled white is NN, I agree that's a bit confusing
It's also slightly outdated now because I usually use text instead

>>17174501
I considered that, but Romaji is far more compact. And given that, I chose Nihon-shiki because it's what ZUN uses in the games. In a chart optimized for aesthetics rather than filesize, I'd do it all in moon.

>>17171959
No, that's stage 4's spam and luck.

>>17171959

>>17174627 here
As well as losing a life in stage 3 to Meiling by a choke/spam and losing roughly 10 minutes of progress in where all lives are needed

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How do I get good?
I can 1cc all the games on easy mode and normal mode on 7, 8, and 10 with some characters (not consistantly though)
is it a matter of perseverance? How often do you lunatics play and where do I start from here. I've been playing Touhou for a while but i've never really played out of my comfort zone; always dying isnt very fun and i dont want touhou to become a chore

>>17171959
Stage 4 it's the real hell. Fuck these books.

I wish I could play a Touhou game. They seem challenging but rewarding, and the music is good.

>>17174667
why don't you play them anon?

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>>17174667
You should atleast try them out.

>>17174667
just play it fag, I'm enjoying it a lot

>>17173687
np2fmgen build of Neko Project II.

Is it normal to play much better on a Thinkpad? I feel like I can't be as precise when playing with a normal home PC keyboard.

>>17174953
Sadly I've never owned a thinkpad. What kind of keyboard do they have? Rubberdome?

>>17174953
I feel the same way too, in fact all of my 1ccs were done on a thinkpad.

lolk is really hard, give me some advice for getting shitty clear

>>17174961
Mechanical, blue switches.
>>17175521
Play a better game.

>>17171959
If you can get to Stage 4 withou dying once, than the run is literally in the bag. I choked so fucking hard against Remilia (got hit 4 times), and I still managed to 1CC because I played like a champ until Stage 5.

>>17175603
gets reds or dont even bother with keyboard as all the superior japs use pads

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>>17174667
Start with 8!

So, I've started playing Touhou on a new laptop, and for some reason I'm unable to hold shift, z, and x at the same time, as the bomb won't go off if I was already holding shift and z. Any reason why?

>>17176729
https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/antighostingexplained.mspx

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Fucking hell. I made a super-optimized version of this chart >>17174325 in which each box is represented by one pixel, and they're laid out in a single row. Of course, it needs a description of how they're ordered, but fortunately both PNG and GIF provide ways to embed plaintext strings into files. Unfortunately, 4chan doesn't allow embedded text in either format, even if it perfectly complies with the standard, so I can't upload either version here because apparently it might be a virus or something. Fuck you, moot.
Anyway, since I can't actually upload the images themselves, this is a representation of the smalled possible version: a binary PBM, which has a constant size of 324 bytes regardless of which pixels are filled in.

>>17178484
Memeing way too hard anon

>>17178511
Not everything on the internet is a "meme", you underage idiot. Lurk more or get the fuck out of /jp/.

>>17178611
So you mean to say that you "unironically", as they say, put serious effort into making that? That it wasn't a silly joke? That you're even offended from someone suggesting otherwise? If you have that kind of time grind out some more 1ccs or scores.
>get the fuck out of /jp/.
This isn't /jp/ - Minimalistic Data Representation.

>>17178783
>This isn't /jp/ - Minimalistic Data Representation.
what the fuck, i've been lied to

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>>17178783
>This isn't /jp/ - Minimalistic Data Representation.
Shit I must've clicked the wrong board

>>17178484
That's pretty good. I'd like to see someone go through all these threads, collect all the postings, and make a good lossy compression form. Maybe everyone who 1CCs EoSD as ReimuA also beats PCB EX as SakuyaB and vice versa, or something. Given people's habits, I wouldn't be surprised if we could get 95%+ accuracy on all posters with only two or three bytes.

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>>17178783
>This isn't /jp/ - Minimalistic Data Representation.
﹖

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>>17178974
So many wasteful colors, Cirno. I'm sure we can remove a few of them.

>>17179031
Optimization with /jp/!

>>17174094
Reimu C is the perfect example of "press X to win"

>>17172378
Actually, under normal conditions Marisa C is the second-strongest shottype in the game. I don't know why it's such a common misconception that her damage is weak. Third strongest if you count unfocused Marisa A, but most people won't be unfocused under the boss regularly.
There's also a bunch of wierd positions you can do with Marisa B and a few other shottypes, but those really won't be getting used in normal play by ANYBODY.

>>17174191
Medicine is ridiculously OP against the AI since they don't account for her slowdown. It really hurts them because the AI most typically dodges bullets at the last second, but her poison clouds makes it so those last-second dodges are poorly timed, and the bullet hits them anyway.

>>17175521
Go Lunatic and graze with Sanae, spam bombs as much as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPx4o8tI8fM

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Finally an actual lunatic 1cc on PoFV!
It's hard to take Medicine and Aya seriously when they absolutely destroy everyone so quick.

ayyyyyyye i love this game

>>17176864
So, basically, the games are unplayable on that laptop unless I get an anti-ghosting keyboard?

>>17179974
Grats anon, having it done with Cirno is a plus.
>>17179986
Me too, I wish I got into the series earlier.

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>>17179031
Your PNG is now optimized.

>>17179818
I did bomb more than usual. I guess that explains it.

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>>17180042
You also have the options of either using programs to reassign the key bindings so instead of using shift+Z+X you use (for example) J+I+O. It's what I personally do both because my keyboard has the same problem as yours and because I simply cannot get used to using anything but WASD to move. The other option would be to play with a gamepad or something.

>>17179914
Well, to be fair I was mostly taking note of apparent damage on Rin who has a tendency to move around all the god damn time which is problematic for straight shots. It still feels like Reimu A does more damage, though. Maybe she's the stronger shot type or something.

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>>17180115
Sloppy work, man.

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>>17181796
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

>>17174365
Say, why not play PoFV?
I believe this could help you improving your raw dodging skills in general.
You routing is always excellent. You just need to not pay attention to the amount of resources you got.

>>17182370
>Say, why not play PoFV?
Because it's shit?

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>>17182581
Why would you think that?
I'm pretty sure playing PoFV will help a lot with your survival skills. It's a pretty well rounded game, only issues I can think of is no deathbombing and the fucked up life meter rules, but other than that, its randomness can prove useful for what you need.
>>17181395
Thank you a lot anon, this is amazing.

>>17182370
The Phantasmagoria games frustrate me more than usual. I think it's because enemies dying is largely based on whether they feel like it, so sometimes they hold out way longer than they should. Almost feels like they cheat sometimes.

>>17182737
But you shouldn't worry about that, since you are not there to clear or win but rather to improve your dodging, don't you think?

>>17182835
You're right.
But, I just did a near-full run (died to Eiki AGAIN because she's a fucking cunt who decides she wants to live for more than five minutes on the third round of the fight) and I remembered a more pressing reason for me not liking PoFV.
It fucking DESTROYS my hand. Constantly tapping the fire key fucking hurts like hell.

I downloaded 15.5's demo but the frame rate is way too fast. How do I fix it?

>>17182905
You can set up external autofire with a program like Autohotkey to just hold down the button like normal, and use a second button for using lv1 and lv2 attacks.

>>17182905
Don't know about you but I used to have the same problem, turns our it was due not having a good support for my arms while playing; maybe changing positions may help you to not get so tired so fast, also check how many taps per second you need to keep your shooting on

Feeling ecstatic right now; just 1cc'd DDC on hard for the first time. Can't believe it took me until yesterday to realize how easy it is to bomb for life pieces

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Byakuren last spellcard with a weaker shot type is some funny business I tell you.

>>17176438
You only need a keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvxef_w5wl8

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I didn't expect another 1cc so soon. Thank you Marisa.

Is DDC the easiest game in series or it's just SakuyaA being overpowered?

>>17188475
Try playing on something higher than normal difficulty

>>17181395
Alright, thanks.

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Finally got my first 1cc here, vs Kaguya as Border team. Which, it might not be the best 1cc ever, but its mine and that's what matters.

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>>17188153
>>17190552
Nicely done you two!
>>17188475
DDC is not the easiest in any difficulty, and SakuyaA is overpowered indeed

>>17188475

Sakuya A and Marisa B are both pretty OP in that game

>>17191620
>>17195127
Is Sakuya the best option in that game? I thought that Reimu A was the better choice (I'm asking this because I'm trying 1cc DDC, but the not!Prismrivers make me drop my spaghetti).

God damn it, ZUN, why did you think this UFO bullshit was a good idea?

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>I haven't played Touhou in a while
>I never did a Legacy LoLK Normal 1cc before, let's do that!
I beat Hecatia but fuck this is hard.
>>17195165
MarisaB is by far the best option in DDC. You can cheese EX with it too.

>>17174325
>>17174367
>>17179031
>>17180115
>>17182014
I wonder if any of you optimization gods have any tips you would want to share for making 2hu webms?

>>17195212
I, for one, enjoy the amount of lifes that UFO gives me.

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someone played this fan game? I have huge fps drop after stage 2

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>>17195212
Because it is a good idea. If you're shit at the game, how about you see where your failings lie and improve on them instead of going "hurr durr ufos xd"?

>>17195362
Record it at the smallest native resolution, keep it as short as possible, only show the play area unless the HUD is relevant, drop every other frame if you really need to. But they'll always look a bit shit, because all the bright, contrasting colors and small, fast objects are a nightmare for video codecs.

>>17197628
This is not a /jp/-worthy post, please try harder next time.

>>17197705
You're mom isn't a /jp/-worthy post. Stop blaming the game for you being so shit at it.

What's the "rhythm" for Remilia's bubble vomit on Lunatic? I screwed up the sidestepping, which lowered the rank and made the bubbles slower. I almost died a second time as a result of the change.

Also, I'm at the point where I game over around Scarlet Meister or the part before it. How many more lives would I need to hold onto to be in 1cc territory?

>>17195254
Got the 1cc, just needed to focus more!

Now I can say I have 1cc'd every game on at least Normal!

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When I'm focusing and unfocusing too fast the special key window opens and fucks me up. I'm playing in a Windows 10 device.

Is there any solution to this?

>>17200392
Turn off Sticky Keys? Am I missing something?

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>>17200410
I don't know how or what they even are. It occurs everytime I press a key too fast. I always say "no" when the window pops up, but it later shows up again thanks to the massive shift pressing.

>>17200426
Are you new to computers by chance

>>17200445
I'm fairly new to Windows 10, I never saw something like this in 98, XP or 8. Thanks for the help tho.

>>17200450
Sticky keys were around in Win95. You went through that many generations of windows without accidentally pressing shift 5 times in a row somewhat quickly? That's actually kind of amazing.

>>17200426
If you just google "Sticky Keys" you'll solve the issue, anon.

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>>17200494
>>17200509
I never had to. When I started to play Touhou I had a XP computer and I never pressed that fast the shift key, the same with 8 and the few months I had 8.1 (I kept it pressed for a long time in boss battles and final stages).

Thanks a bunch for the help, I'll search that and hopefully solve this.

>>17200515
That just means most likely someone turned it off for you before you even encountered it.

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>>17200530
Maybe the XP one, but the W8 computer was only used by me and it was new when my grandfather gave it to me as a present.

Either way, I solved the problem. Really, thanks for the help!

FUUUUUCK orin

I know how her shit works but I can't help messing up

also FUCK marisa and her fatass hitbox that keeps tripping me up

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Fucking Kaguya. I almost 1cc'd on normal for the first time, I was in the last spell before the 5 Last Words with only one iive left.

Stupid Marisa, she made me lose 3 lives.

/blog.

>>17204507
>Stupid Marisa, she made me lose 3 lives.
How? Marisa is what makes Magic Team somewhat playable.

>>17204531
I was talking about the battle against her and her stupid star bullets and le ebin pursuit.

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>>17204565
That pursuit is easy when done with Ghost Team or Border Team, but well I do consider Stage 4 Boss to be a more difficult challenge than Reisen, you should aim to beat Marisa and leave that fight with 6 lives left, minimum 5, then do great against Reisen which is really easy to learn.
Kaguya shouldn't give you any trouble till you reach the last spell, you should reach Rainbow Danmaku with atleast 3 lives left and try to bomb before you get hit or else the death-bombing in IN takes away two bombs out of your stock.

>>17204630
Yeah, Kaguya wasn't that difficult for being my first time against her (it helped that I play in slow mode), it was the fact that I had only 2 lives left what fucked me.

Btw, if I lose to all her 5 Last Words, will I get a bad ending or it doesn't really matter?

>>17204648
Don't worry that one is optional, if you get it done you get bonus on your score, but I've never bothered to beat it, as you will get the good ending nonetheless.

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>>17204667
Thanks for the information. Well, I'll keep trying until I 1cc this thing.

Good luck and keep improving.

Cirno fucks my shit up on normal in EoSD
am I lost cause ?

Boy am I glad I don't use a controller because I would've snapped it in half with all these runs of PoFV where I make it to Eiki and then lose all three of my lives. Is there a way to keep the early-stage opponents from dying so fucking fast so I can try to milk them for more points?
>>17205095
How long have you been playing?

>>17205112
Their deaths can't be prevented, but you can stall (not shoot) for 1-2 minutes to increase rank so their brief existence yields more points.

>>17205112
4 days now
about 1~ hour each day

>>17205126
You probably still have some pretty basic techniques to learn, then. Keep at it.

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>>17205126
I wouldn't worry then, if you haven't played much from shmups before trying Touhou. The climb to your first 1cc is pretty tough but you'll get there, and after you get that first one you'll start knocking the other games down like dominos with your acquired skill (at least on Normal; the higher difficulties are their own beasts that require similar climbs). Don't lose hope so soon.

>>17205140
>>17205144
thanks anons
sorry for the newfagish question, but what's a 1cc

>>17205166
one credit clear, or one continue clear. either one

>>17205174
Anyone who says 1cc is a one continue clear is just joking.

Well you can just not shoot at all and wait for Lily White, then the fun starts.
But this can be tedious and you don't get that many more points though.
>>17205166
Beating the game without using a continue with default resources, which is the survival goal.

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>>17204507
FINALLY. After 6 frickin' years I finally got my first normal 1cc.

I only had 3 lives left when I started my battle against Kaguya. I thought I was fucked even before starting.

Thanks for all your advices and kind words, anons. It's thanks to ya'll that I did this.

>inb4 Slow mode
Yes, that's the only way for me to not fuck it up against Marisa's pursuit and Master Spark.

>>17205568
>Slow mode
>1cc
If you say so, anon. If you're satisfied with something like that then more power to you, but you should really set some standards for yourself.

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Just got my first clear with Marisa on TD while taking a break from the IN chart, I've been trying to get it since last week, the thing about TD that makes it annoying to play is that I can't afford to lose a life before reaching Stage 6 or else I won't beat Miko, doing a perfect run I would only reach her with 4 lives in stock as the purple ghosts are hard for me to collect.

>>17205568
It warms my heart to see you finally got it after our conversation, now that you beated it deactivate slow mode, and I do recommend to grind some PCB too (with slowmo off aswell) so you can get used to it, as the other games won't have that feature and it will permanently damage your skills preventing you from improving.

>>17205676
Does Slowmo go towards unlocking cards in Spell Practice and Last Spells/Words/the ones in Spell Practice

because I may want to use it since I'm not good enough to Lunatic 1cc and don't feel like Hard 1ccing again because I didn't get all of Kaguya's Lasts

>>17205568
Congrats on your PB anon, keep at it and you'll eventually get a 1cc with less than 5% slow and no extra lives.
>>17205686
You could as well download a scorefile at that point

>>17205692
I dunno there's a little more validation in unlocking everything myself

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>>17205676
>>17205679
>>17205686
Thanks a lot, and yeah, I'll keep practicing with games that don't have the slowmo option so I won't be tempted to use it. My next stage is TD, so it won't be a dramatic change like if I tried to 1cc, say, SA (even though I already cleared it once).

Keep improving, everyone.

>>17205714
PCB is just as easy as TD IMO

If you ever want to practice doing things without bombing use Point Device in LoLK and quit when you get to stage 5 because it's just bullshit from that point and won't help as much in other games

>>17205720
I know that PCB is easy, but I personally find TD easier, with Seiga being the only difficult boss to me.

I've played all Touhou games many times so I know which ones are the hardest to me and my scrub skills. But thanks or your advice, it really means a lot to me.

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I can't play Aya's games. She's too fast, and I end up flying into bullets. The focus speed is still way too high for me, and the charging is way too slow. Why even include that much slowdown?
Anyway, is there a way to remedy that? Maybe I should try to play other games unfocused to get used to speed? Or is it all about banging your head against a wall until you memorise exact movements during every spellcard? Gets tiring after 200 shots taken.

I also have a similar problem with Marisa, but her focus is more manageable. I even 1cc'd with her before, but I can't get past level 5 in STB.

Advice on GFW's EX Mode or should I just not bother with it at all

it's really fucking frustrating like holy shit who thought this was fun

>>17205820
Good, they are bad games anyways.

>>17205820
Play some games at 90fps to improve control.

>>17204507
Having just done my first IN 1cc, Marisa is definitely worse than reisen, seeing ass reisens nonspells are all hug bottom of screen and just tap sideways, 3/4 of her spells are just going up and down in time with the phasing, so marisas got a lot more complex stuff in her setup, although a fair few of her spells are ones where diagonal movement helps IMO.

>>17206059
The reason why I find Marisa so hard (aside from her high amount of lives for a 4 stage boss) it's mainly the background during the pursuit, that spell with the two moving lasers and Master Spark. It moves so fast and the colours of the bullets are so bright and different between them that fucks my eyes, my sight get tired and I can't really tell what's happening or where I need to move.

The only difficult part with Reisen to me it's that spell where 4 rings of bullets get frozen and I need to move to the center before the new wave of bullets kills me.

>>17205714
I don't play with slowmode when going for a 1CC, but playing with it on is fun as fuck.

>>17206059
>>17206333
I found Reimu to be a bigger pain in the ass. Was pretty surprised to go searching on the internet and finding out the consensus was that Marisa was the tougher one. I guess I suck in different ways.

>>17206333
>>17206457
Im a habitual reimu player, so never seen the fight vs her.

As for marisa, nondirectional laser is one of the spells where I found diagonal movement to be the key- dont focus too much on the lasers beyond "switch directions when they fade", keep an eye on the main star streams, diagonal down move through the stars, then diagonal up to get up to distance so lasers dont catch you, and I found the diagonals better for not running into small stars. Masterspark, I just focused on dodging for the most part, with diagonals helping get through the star weaving in time- get ran locked on asap, then just dodge, its not worth it trying to redirect the laser out of the way to let you stay under marisa with main shot IMO.

Spoiler for IN's Scarlet Team Ending.
So, in the ending Remi decides that she wants to go to the Moon, which happens later in SSiB. Does this mean that Scarlet Team scenario is canonical one?

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>>17205568
Anon no that's not how it works
I used to have a really bad computer that would sometimes lag on even the old games, and I would go past the acceptable thresholds for slowdown involuntarily, and if that was the case with you I wouldn't criticize you, but if you did it intentionally I can't congratulate you.

>>17205820
>Or is it all about banging your head against a wall until you memorise exact movements during every spellcard?
ye

>>17205858
>Advice on GFW
Don't play it, it's shit

>>17208089
madcuzbad

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So, I 1cc'd EoSD, but there's something strange in here. As you can see, final screen shows that I died 10 times. But it's a lie, I died only 8 times. I started with default lives, and EoSD gives you only 6 extends, so there's no way to die 10 times.
Does it count deathbombs as deaths or what?

>>17208155
>Does it count deathbombs as deaths or what?
Yes.

>>17208170
Oh, thanks.

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How do I stop ragequitting at Stage 4+ after a good run just because I die twice in a row? I know I shouldn't do that and I hate myself whenever I do but I always do it out of reflex.

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>>17208416
Nothing I can do from here. Just don't quit. Maybe think of those as practice runs?
Eventually you will remember stage 4 so well you will be able to do it with your eyes closed, but die on stage 5 or stage 6, or face the notorious fail at the last spellcard. Just keep going, especially if you still end up using continues.
Many 1ccs happen just after a failed run.
And ZUN thanks you for playing only after you finish it, 1cc or no. That's enough motivation for me.

>>17208416
Hit the pause button, walk away, and take a break

>>17205745
Also better advice that I just remembered: Practice with the Satori Rush mod, her attacks cover most of the basics of spell cards. Also >>17208490 because getting to places before the final boss and not doing the final boss will leave you struggling to master stage 6

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And SA Normal is DONE. But fuck if I'm ever touching this fucking game again, especially with Marisa.

>>17208535
Thanks, I'll try that mod when I feel ready to 1cc SA (I also have the Super Practice mod). Too bad that it only exist for SA and UFO, tho. It would be so helpful if there were more mods for the other games.

>>17208416
Don't be sad, stage 4 is usually the hardest stage in most games imo, but then stage 5 and 6 lower the difficulty. Just keep it up and never give up.

>>17209606
this sure isn't the case in games after MoF though, excluding TD, because Stage 5 becomes the hard one

>>17209649
I don't remember SA's stage 5 being particuraly hard, I haven't finished UFO so I can't really tell. But I can agree with DDC and LoLK, with Seija's and Clownpiece's bullshit.

Anyway, the point is, never give up and keep trying. Someday you'll kick the shit out of that stage.

>>17209708
>I don't remember SA's stage 5 being particuraly hard
Perhaps you blocked it from your memory. It's notoriously difficult to learn, though I don't think the execution is as hard as people claim.
UFO had the undisputed hardest stage 5 before LoLK, Shou is brutal.

>>17209758
Rin has bullshit that puts her on par with Shou, like the Wheel of Fuck You and Cat's Walk All Over Your Corpse

>>17209758
I found SA's stage 4 to be harder because Satori has Sonic speed bullets. The only thing I remember about stage 5 are the constant (and cute) appearences of Orin in her cat form during the stage.

I'm not saying that it's easy by any means, just not that hard as stage 4.

>>17209778
Due to the mechanics of SA it's easy enough to bomb the troublesome midbosses and still get a piece of life. The power drop is only troublesome on stage 5, since it's a little stingy with power until after the spaghetti-os bullet section.
For Blazing Wheel in particular you only need to dodge some 15 waves (you can get by with as few as ten waves if you play ReimuA), and Rin drops 2.0 Power.

>>17209484
Something isn't right with pcb

>>17210402
Yeah I got bored with it. Maybe I'll go back and finish it.

>>17207775
>Does this mean that Scarlet Team scenario is canonical one
It means that endings are not indicative of any particular route being the "true route" but are simply a collection of events that help establish extra details after the conclusion of the incident from the context of those characters

>>17209606
>Too bad that it only exist for SA and UFO, tho. It would be so helpful if there were more mods for the other games.
From TD and on there is a flag you can set through modifying the executable that activates a debug boss-only mode. Outside of that, I haven't bothered to think up anything in the later games that would make for a more interesting boss rush experience.

After 500 tries I finally 1cc'd TD on normal. I've gotta be the person who's the special kind of retard at Touhou and I still can't bomb on death for shit. Pretty sure my first try was on the day the game was on torrent.

>>17210703
Or instead of thinking deathbombing is the best strat you could learn proper bomb usage

>>17210703
Practice smart not hard.

>>17209778

Blazing wheel is in stage 6 though. Also it's easily her easiest spellcard in my opinion, at least on normal. Plus you can bomb it for free even if you do have trouble on it since she drops so much power afterwards.

>>17211331
We're thinking of different attacks, I believe
I'm thinking of the one where she makes wheels out of her ghosties

Has anyone here ever played Gundemonium?

>>17210480
So every scenario is canon? But aren't they incompatible?
Like, in Border/Netherworld Team scenario Marisa has no idea what happens with the Moon and suspects protagonists to be the villains, and in Scarlet/Magic Team scenario Reimu is the one to do so.
Obviously, if all available protagonists actually went to resolve the incedent, Reimu/Marisa wouldn't be ignorant.
You can go this "all playables were involved" route in other games, but not in IN.
You can even say that both Border/Netherworld OR both Scarlet/Magic team scenarios are canon, because they face the same fourth stage, but not all four of them.

>>17211338
That spellcard is like Orin's trying to tell you to go fuck yourself.

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>>17211338
Needle Mountain of Former Hell? Definitely one of the hardest ones, I agree.
Rin has a lot of spell cards with a circle motif (a pun on 輪?), so you might also mean Spleen Eater, but that's her least random card.

>>17211506

I think all the character's dialogue and endings are equally canon as far as everything said/done in them being official and recognized but I think as far as the print works are concerned there's a completely separate "true" account of what really happened on a plot level, usually with Reimu being the one to solve the incident but often with the other characters being implied to have taken some part in it too.

For instance, it's mentioned that Reimu stopped Utsuho, but it's also canon that Marisa met Yuugi during that incident, so they must've both gone underground, something which doesn't fit with any of the game routes in particular.

>>17211554
What about IN's scenario?

>>17210703
Don't be too hard on yourself, be happy that you did it, even if it took you 500, 1000 , 2000 tries or even years to do it.

Just keep it up and remember: have fun.

>>17211589
"Literally everyone kicks the shit out of eintei" ?

>>17211554
This is just my headcanon bullshit, but I like to think that every scenario is happening at the same time, but only one character (mostly Reimu) is the able to defeat the final boss.

Trying to determine the canonicity of scenarios and endings is almost as silly as trying to determine powerlevels in Touhou. Just try not to think too hard about it.

>>17211597

That's technically not possible in IN or TD outside of the possibility of parallel universes, same with games where characters have multiple potential scenarios like SA/UFO/DDC. I like to just think that there's a separate "true scenario" that sort of takes all the notable events/interactions of the routes/endings and alters them/meshes them together in a way that makes sense. Honestly I think ZUN just doesn't really care for having a strictly logical canon so much though, so like >>17211600 said I try not to think too hard about it.

>>17211618
It's not that he doesn't care (necessarily), it's just that sometimes you have to sacrifice flavor for gameplay. If you want both consistent storytelling and multiple playable characters, but there's no good way to do both, then the latter takes precedence. It's the same reason why danmaku fights are so asymmetrical in-game, even though they're actually supposed to be more like equal exchanges of spell cards. Making a good game comes first, and the story has to work around it, so you just have to accept that what's shown in-game is necessarily a bit of an abstraction of the "real" events.

>>17211668
>It's the same reason why danmaku fights are so asymmetrical in-game, even though they're actually supposed to be more like equal exchanges of spell cards
Phantasmagoria

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>>17211676
But they only use two spellcards and maybe three attacks that could be called non spells at best. Also drowning in the goddamn faires. I personally think it's more like usual games except even if you don't bomb the other party experiences about 3/4 of your spellcard arsenal anyway. Logically, it would be outright broken if you got like 5 free bombs before every fight, so you need to manage resources during the entire game in one go, instead of just doing it during boss encounters.
Maybe we'll get a phantasmagoria game where both players have to face a stage and then each other, with multiple personalized spellcard and non spellcard attacks at some point in the future.

i done with eosd normal all characters, let's move to next game

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43467

あああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ

Funnily, the replay always shows me failing at the start of the last battle when I actually failed at the end, even if I start the replay before the stage.

Still, I knew I wasn't gonna make it. My heart was beating too fast during Subterranean Sun and my play was sloppy as fuck because of this.

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>>17212115
>Cleared: No

>>17212154
Rude.

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>>17169336
DonPachi is harder

My TD replay is broken at Stage 5, similar to the bug that can occur in SA against Okuu, any ideas on how to fix it? I already tried loading the replay from Stage 4, and Stage 6 works perfectly...

>>17212362
DonPachi is shit

>>17211549
That's the one. I just pray I am not in the Ghost's path and if I am I bomb as fast as I can because there's no way it won't hit me

>>17213458
The ghost circles are always aimed. Listen to when they spawn, then move out of the way. They move slowly so they'll be aimed at where you were at when they spawned.

>>17213458
>I just pray I am not in the Ghost's path
The scythes are aimed at you every time, it works like Utsuho's Nuclear Fusion in that you have to navigate through smaller bullets over to the gap in the larger bullets. The big ones in Nuclear Fusion are also aimed at you, they're pretty similar.

>>17211506
The issue is thinking of individual scenarios as "canon" or "non-canon" in the first place, as though the games are just like a linear story that follows a specific series of events and that series, only that series, is the "correct one". The method of storytelling and what information gets plucked is completely different from how something like a manga or novella approaches it. It's all relevant. I'm sure you can accept that dialogue in different scenarios will establish different things, and it isn't the case that all but one scenario have "non-canon" information in dialogue. It's similar for endings.

To that end, the only thing left is wanting a particular character to have "canonically" solved the incident, and clearly when multiple people are known to solve incidents, who in particular does is not important, and that's how it's treated whenever mentioned in the manga etc. In the case of IN it's even purposefully obscured as you can read in BAiJR.

>>17210703
You cant react to death anyway.
Human reaction time is around 0.30 seconds while the deathbomb window is around a third of that.
So yes you're kind of stupid to keep trying something you cant possibly do as a human.

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I got burned out a little over a year ago when I was stuck with nothing but Fairy Wars to play for a month and nearly completed it. Should I go back and try to finish it, or pick another game to work on?

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>>17218139
It's up to you. GFW was my second-longest Normal 1cc to get (the longest was EoSD just because it was the first game I played from the series and didn't have any experience in the genre) and took me basically three months of daily play, but I'm below average in skill level relative to how long I've been playing.

I wonder if sakuya WRYYYYYYYs

i just can't stand how boring TD is.

Does anyone know where I can find a download of PoFV that's JUST the game, without the English patch, the netplay thingy or any of the other crap

>>17220088
Not off the top of my head, but why are you looking for such a thing? Adonis and the English patch are only 86MB on top of the original game's 505MB, which isn't even a 20% increase in size, so it shouldn't make or break your ability to download it even on a bad connection.

>>17220210
I just want a clean install that doesn't include anything extra unless I go out of my way to get it and apply it myself

It's not a matter of size or anything, it's a matter of autism

>>17220370
could buy it

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>>17220481

>>17220370
I'll upload it for you in a bit.

>>17220370
Delete th09e.*, delete adonis*, and you're done.

Version 1.00 fresh off the disc:
https://mega.nz/#!NKBlgQIK!8fCgzOeJyGv86uEZcQE26CbP9ku_4aq-ceULjuuMo-k

Update it to version 1.50a (need applocale):
http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/data/soft/th09_ver150a.lzh

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>>17220594
Thanks for the help, kind anon

>>17198264
Remi's bubble vomit always follows the same pattern. You can go above her when she does the downward, non-aimed barrage and she cannot hit you. Staying close to her makes the aimed barrage easier to stream as the bullets do not spread out as far. Very easy non-spell if you shotgun her while streaming the aimed portion and then alternate to shotgunning her non-aimed portion by sitting on her head.

You should always bomb Scarlet Meister in survival runs on lunatic. It is not worth the extremely low chance you have of capturing it, even if you have done it in practice mode.

>>17181395
Is there any way to have this automatically run when you open it?

>>17195838
Where'd you get that? I'd like to add it to my collection.

>>17222958
As in, "do nothing, just run the game and the changes will apply"? No. I believe Autohotkey can do that but I have zero experience with it.

>>17223148
No, I meant so it isn't necessary to hit "Run" when you open the program. What I did was to save a Touhou config like yours, set that file to open with the program so I don't have to manually load it.

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>>17223222
By using a batch file, this video will show you how.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA7iFJ0QRlg

The one I made just now (pic related) only has the config which will auto-load and auto-run, but you can make it so it runs the game as well if you follow the steps of the video.

>>17223027
There's a link on Moriyashrine: http://moriyashrine.weebly.com/spinoff-games.html

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Just got a 3MNB run for EoSD stage 5 on Hard (which thus would've been a no-miss run if I chose to bomb and didn't miss the deathbomb window, which is admittedly a big if). I feel like I'd have this 1cc if I wasn't a faggot who waits too long to bomb, since I've accomplished no-bomb runs for the first five stages now in practice mode.

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Wow, I understimated normal TD. The low amount of lives at the start of the game, the difficulty to reach the live pieces from the third stage onwards plus the amount of live pieces needed for a compleate live adds some difficulty to the game. This is going to be fun.

>>17225751
Are you trying to react to death?

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>>17171959
>that part where the fairies just throw undodgable blue wallmaku at you
why

>>17226236
You're supposed to kill them, you know?

>>17175641
Don't trigger my flashbacks.

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>>17226236
You can dodge it. It's aimed, just keep still while they're firing then move as soon they finish. Later you will get to a part you have very little room to dodge but it's doable. The key is moving as little as possible.
Listening to shooting SFX may prove useful here.

Unless you're talking about the part before Sakuya's midboss encounter.
It still isn't hard, unfocus and move upwards. They die quickly and you have enough room to fit a truck in between the walls.

>>17226218
No, when I do have a "bomb this" mindset I always do it in anticipation of a hit rather than trying to react to it, but I just don't like bombing and I try to capture cards even if the odds seem against me. It's a problem I have but I really want to capture as many cards as I can during a run.

>>17226253
Kinda hard to rush towards them when you're already surrounded by the blue red and green danmaku shot at you by the previous fairies. I just think of it as a cheapshot and bomb.

>>17226526
The enemy spawns are static so you should always be ending the aimed stuff in the center in order to kill the first enemy, and then leave to kill the one coming on the left.

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I don't even know how I managed to do this. Four fucking lifes on the last spellcard.

Anyone know a easier way to deal with Kogasa's first boss spellcard on higher difficulties using ReimuA? The one with the balloon things? I swear to god that I get clipped at the last minute before capturing it even though I have a easier time with her other spellcards. Which is weird considering I can somehow do a consistently good job on Shou's non-spells and some of her spellcards.

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http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=43488

Finally made it.

>>17227315
There's a safespot around her legs that's pretty easy to get into.

>>17227413
Are you calling Kogasa a slut?

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How do I transition into lunatic? Hard was a rather straightforward affair and through just trying again and again I was able to improve and get 1CCs. On lunatic however I feel as if I have hit a brick wall and even when I understand patterns my fundamentals just aren't good enough to carry me through them, nor do they seem to be getting better.

>>17227850
You just need lots of practice, also check out replays for tips on how to beat sections you're having trouble with.

>>17227840
No.

>>17227904
Are you calling Sagume a slut?

>>17227850
Yeah, Lunatic kinda makes you feel like you have to start learning everything all over again. Just keep at it as you normally would.

If DDC Lunatic is too difficult for you, you can try using PCB Lunatic to ease into the rhythm.

Should Sakuya's midboss spell just be bombed on lunatic?

I haven't played Extra stages in a while and I've noticed over the past few days that I'm playing the stages more confidently. I had previously only seen such progress against Mokou in the past.

I'm getting to the bosses more reliably, but I still have that hump of the first spell card or two if I can even bomb through them.

What am I missing?

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Should I?

Does anyone have some tips for playing PoFV? I do fine until I get to Aya or Komachi, who do a fine job robbing me of me lives, then Eiki always finishes me off and never seems to fucking die unless I lose a continue to her first.

>>17232141
No, they are both terrible.

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>>17232242
I'm having the same issue. Also Sakuya's side shanks are pretty much guaranteed to leave me hanging on half pip of life 1 minute into the match.
I set up bots playing against each other yesterday, and holy ravioli, how are you supposed to do lunatic. They both went for 5 minutes without losing a single life, with me being completely incapable of keeping track of them 1.5 minutes in. Completely hidden in bullets.

Some of my games are running at 75 fps and I didnt change in vpatch, its still 60 in there.
What do?

>>17232242
>>17232788
Spam 2 level attacks.

Should I use Sanae A or B to 1cc UFO?

>>17232882
Why 75 specifically? Unless that's your monitor's refresh rate, try forcing V-sync in vpatch and see if it changes anything.

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>>17232987
Both.

>>17233093
Its set to 60fps in vsync but it still goes to 75fps, it only happens in EoSD and IN though.

>>17233513
IIRC, they have a "force 60fps" option in their respective custom.exe programs. Have you tried enabling that?

How long did it take for you to get your first 1cc? I can barely get past the Prismriver Sisters in PCB before losing all my lives. I've been playing for roughly 12 hours or so total, is it going to take a lot more practise to do it?

>>17227850
Lunatic requires strategies on a lot of patterns, if you feel like you're hitting a brick wall, look up replays and stuff online. There's much less spellcards that you can just microdoge through without knowing what's coming at you beforehand.

>>17235847
I always find that by far the largest factor in achieving my first 1CC of any of the games is learning how to not waste bombs, ie: not dying with bombs still in stock. Once I get more comfortable with using bombs (which involves learning which Spell Cards are too tough for you), I usually net a 1CC very quickly.
Is PCB your first Touhou game? If so, 12 hours is a very reasonable amount of playtime, don't sweat it too much though. Just approach it at your own pace. I find that getting a Game Over messes me up for the rest of the day, so it's pointless to keep retrying multiple times, but other people have a lot of success by, say, putting 2 hours of playtime in every day. Just don't force yourself to keep butting your head against the wall unless you're having fun or seeing actual improvements in your performance.

It took me longer to get my first 1CC when I originally got into Touhou because I dipped my feet into all of the games (UFO was the recent release back then), so it's not like I was making a beeline for the 1CC in just one game. Don't be afraid to try out the other games if you feel like you aren't progressing in PCB, your skills won't disappear unless you spend a long while without playing any bullet hell games.

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FUCKING BLUE UFOS MAN WHY ARE THEY EVEN IN THE GAME THEY ARE USELESS REEEEEEEEEE


By the way, why is stage 6 so amazing?

>>17236144
Rainbow UFO's can spawn two color changers, getting you more lives or bombs quicker in some places.

>>17236144
>WHY ARE THEY EVEN IN THE GAME
Because some people like playing for score.

>>17236011
I'm trying to use my bombs more, I'm able to deathbomb more frequently now too. I've played EoSD for about 8 hours or so, stage 4 is my roadblock there. Also, I've been working through LoLK on pointdevice mode too, but I haven't played too much of that though.

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>>17236165
I didn't noticed this actually, it does sounds useful if used right.

>>17236273
fair enough

>>17235847
>>17236311
PCB was my second game, and it took me about five attempts to 1cc on normal, but I put a lot of time into EoSD before that (maybe 15-20 hours? I didn't 1cc it before switching to PCB). I would not recommend playing different games at the same time when you're starting out (or if you are trying to 1cc something on hard or lunatic). At least for me, I get fucked up by the slightly different mechanics if I switch between games.

I just went back to PCB today to start working on Extra, which I never was able to complete. With PCB, you want to avoid bombing if at all possible in order to increase your score (which helps get you extra lives). If you can, don't bomb at all in the first three stages, and try not to hit anything/use the free bomb when the cherry mode activates. You don't need to worry about not bombing after you hit stage four or so if you are just trying to 1cc as opposed to worrying about your score. Try practicing on the later stages so you spend less time on stages 1-3 where you shouldn't have any trouble.

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I was wondering why I couldn't get past Marisa in IN without deathbombing/dying but it turned out that I was on Lunatic mode.

>>17237216
Rookie mistake, happens to everyone.

>>17236833
>With PCB, you want to avoid bombing if at all possible in order to increase your score (which helps get you extra lives)
what no

PCB gives extends with the number of point items, not score

Just 1CC'd IN

I kept losing resources in stupid ways but eventually finished the last spellcard with nothing left

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should i move to hard?

>>17239042
What about TD, DDC and LoLK?

>>17236833
Not very good advice. I'd say for PCB survival you want to make it to the start of stage 4 with no more than one bomb used and no lives lost. Then strategically break every border and use a bomb if you think you're going to die. You can safely bomb the entirety of Youmu and Prismrivers with no risk; although it won't feel to great doing it.

>>17239042
>PC
As opposed to what? The PS2 version of PCB?

>>17239526
He probably plays STGs other than Touhou too like me. Some have arcade and console port versions.

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Free from Hijiri's wild ride! And I even managed to capture her last spellcard.

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>>17239042
But, you still haven't beat all the games anon

>Hourai Jewel
Why the fuck is this allowed

>>17243012
That spellcard is fun though.

>>17243027
Kaguya can't be hurt for an absurdly long time after the card activates though, and god forbid you use a shot or bomb that targets the spirits/doesn't go through them in which case you're just going to have to go for time out

I wouldn't mind if the card had a lot more health and she didn't have the stupid old Touhou of "invulnerable for first few seconds (more like 30 for Hourai Jewel) of a spell" mechanic, just some sense that I'm progressing and not just running for my life

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What's the Dark Souls of Touhou games?

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>>17244041
Going back to /v/. Dark Souls and its related games were never hard.

>>17244041
PCB

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Damn I was doing such a clean run, I reached Stage 6 without a miss but then suddenly forgot how to play against Eirin and wasted lots of bombs and lives, I also unnecessarily bombed like two or three times in previous stages...

This was done with Yukari though which is really easy to use, I still can't get a 1cc with Magic Team.

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mfw cant fucking 1cc SA on normal

>>17245406
Are you using Yukari?

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>>17245460
Yes
I dont know why SA is so difficult for me, I've 1cc'd nearly every other game on normal and a couple on hard, but SA is my weakness

>>17245764
Does that include LoLK Legacy

Because if you can handle LoLK then you can handle SA

>>17245775
that does not include LOLK

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>>17245203
I honestly think Yukari is like the 4th or 3rd best shot in the game. Border Team kinda sucks due to Reimu.

Welp. After 3000 years I finally have something to mark down on the chart

>>17246116
If Reimu were a few ranks faster the border team would destroy everyone.

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Is there any strategy to beating Sakuya's final spellcard (Killing Doll) on hard? It's the only spellcard from Stages 1-5 that I haven't been able to capture yet. Her first boss card can be done by just moving away from the red clusters before the knives spawn, and the second boss card is made a lot easier by redirecting the knives, but I can't get a grasp on how to do Killing Doll.

>>17246116
Congrats, that looks impressive, I like Alice's damage but the shot is too narrow for me.

I'm really new to the game, but I'm managing to get through a few of the cards that are giving me trouble. I have no idea how i'm beating them and am constantly almost dying.

Is that normal for this game, or?

>Can make it to Kaguya on Lunatic (while starting with 7 lives)
It isn't 1cc but I can feel myself getting better at 2hu and it feels strange dodging things I once thought were undodgeable

>>17245764
ReimuA is one of the harder types to 1cc.
Try ReimuC or MarisaA first.

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>>17246864
>constantly almost dying
What do you mean by that? That bullets get really close to you? Don't worry, that's normal. You are okay at all times unless they actually hit you.

Give me some more info, what game, what stage can you get to, who you're using.

>>17247775
I've been playing DDC, and while I've certainly been getting better, I'm noticing a lot of times I'm just barely dodging bullets or (in this fucking case) musical notes that I didn't even realize were there, barely even registering what I'm doing before doing it.

I've had so many "I have no idea how the fuck I survived that" moments.

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>>17247797
This is normal. When I started I also didn't notice a ton of bullets and had a ton of deaths because of that. It's actually good that you already subconsciously dodge them.
Just remember to keep one eye out for holes in enemy patterns and keep one eye on your touhou's beatiful behind so you can micrododge.

Why do so many people in this thread collect 1ccs? I mean, getting a couple lunatic clears is a bigger deal than clearing every normal with every shot type. and youll improve really slowly if youre too much of a pussy to try something harder.

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>>17247994
I do it for the endings.
Then I'll do it for hard mode clears, maybe not all of them. Then EX. Then I'll tackle lunatic. If I become too good now I'll have no fun attempting later games.

>>17246302
Well it is nice but don't be fooled anon, Alice is actually very good for Extra if you know how to do stage well. Mokou died way too fast in some of the spells, due to taking more damage than normal.

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>>17246116
Well done, anon! Clearing Ex with the shittiest shottype is seriously impressive and sadistic.

Now do it with pic related.

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>>17247994
It's fun!

I'm trying to beat EoSD for the first time on normal and I suck pretty hard.
Does anybody have any idea on how I am supposed to deal with Cirno's first spellcard? I always get trapped between the bullets coming from the sides and the ones coming from above, even when I try to imitate someone else by getting really close and quickly moving into the gaps, the ones from the sides get me anyway.

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>>17247994
I don't know man. It's like every shot type has different dialogue, endings and sometimes spellcards. If you don't care about lore and you play only for epen, why do even play Touhou?

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>>17248599
Other shottypes should take her out faster than this.
You can stand close to Cirno and not have to do that weird diagonal down movement I did too

>>17247812
That's good to know, I was afraid I was making some kinda mistake by not being super cognitive about every move.

>>17248621
Why not read the dialouges of the wiki then

>>17250117
Anticlimactic.

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>>17250117
True. Why even bother playing video games then.

>>17250154
It's not like touhou is great gameplay wise at a low levels, so why bother playing just for the "lore" is a good question indeed.

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>>17250117
You could look up the endings, but ZUN asked that you don't.

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>>17250173
Some people are just not that good. Some people are completionist. Some just enjoy slow paced progress. Some people enjoy the lore. Some people something something. Why am I even responding to someone who didn't answer answer my first question, uses quotation marks and suggest me to read dialouges on the wiki.

>>17250195
ZUN asked you to kill yourself.