If I order lolicon doujinshi in the USA, will I get the party van?

>>17164291
Only if you use the government mail system to transfer it, because all porn is illegal that way. It may get confiscated though.

>>17164291
May depend on your state. Regardless, you can only get into trouble if the package is checked by customs; if they don't, nobody knows anyway.

>>17164291
I live near a college campus full of international students.

So no one bats an eye whatsoever when i get Japanese goods sent to my place. Never had custom checks or anything so I've never had issues with my cartoon porn.

>>17164291
I doubt, if you use another postal service than government mail, and it is clearly stated that all characters in the book are 18 or older.

>>17164701

I checked, and my state laws say nothing about "depictions of" sexual acts unless you use them to abuse children, so I'm guessing it's okay? All of the possession laws seem to only apply to 3D..

loli is a grey area as far as i know, and honestly it probably just comes down to what the customs dude checking your package thinks (if it gets checked), since the laws are so vague

>>17164291
most likely not party van but you can be sure youll end up on some list and will get spied on

>>17164291
US customs is looking for 1,500-pound drug shipments and doesn't care about your cartoon porn. If someone reports you to law enforcement, there's a non-zero chance, but that is by far the exception and not the rule; you're more likely to be killed in a car accident.

I want to order that Henreader skateboard off Fakku, but I live in Canada. Reckon the party van would give me a visit? I'm not sure what to think of it as the product originates from the US but it still has those three girls in bikinis on it.

I'm always scared of this cause I wanna import a fuckton of /ss/. The part with boys doesn't even do anything for me, I just want to be a tiny man smothered by a big mom.

it seems really unfair that the laws are so vaguely written , they can charge or not charge anyone they want to..

>>17164827
Theres always a chance you'll be used to set the precedent.

>>17164976
Link or post image

>>17165120
That's the point. They want to take a guy with a 20 second video of illicit materials and 3 porn mangas about girls in sailor outfits and say he has 500 images of cp and 60 images of drawn cp.


Incidentally, some people seem to be getting strangely bold lately. You see stuff like those MMD porn videos even of flat characters uploaded to normie porn sites with titles like "loli (something something)" and it makes me think someone's going to go to far and get some hard crackdown on loli animes and stuff being uploaded.

>>17164291
Depends on the state you're in mate

Safe in California

Source: loli doujinshi owner

Only if you import dragon loli doujinshi

>>17165217
are they really lolis if they have a ballsack dangling off of them?

feels good not being amerifat

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>>17164976
>>17165171
I was curious to see. That is loli as fuck, dude. Could you even use that in public?

>>17165456
I would just display it. If I'm remembering right, someone here bought it and said the board quality is shit and that he wouldn't recommend actually using it anyway.

>>17164942
It's 2017. We're all getting spied on

>>17165456
>fakku
TRIGGERED

>>17164291
Use SAL or RSAL. Don't order them in huge expensive orders. I've been buyfaging for years now and I don't think I've ever had a package opened by customs before.

>>17165352
America has more lenient laws towards loli than even Japan. Where could you live that's not going to actually throw you in jail for loli cartoons?

>>17165518
See>>17165507
Enforcement is a different beast, but I wouldn't call this chart as "lenient."

>>17165497
Yes, I know. I don't really want to give them money but I love Henreader's art style.

>>17165482
I looked it up out of curiosity, and it seems more like he was saying the print quality is shit and mentioned that he didn't even skateboard. https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S16808004#p16817331

>>17165526
Japan isn't allowed to make uncensored loli images anywhere. Thus America is more lenient.

>>17165604
Well, I doubt you'd want to find "local" loli art in 'murrika unless you're into Deviantart shit.

>>17165120
if you make them too specific it would be way too easy to find loopholes

>>17165612
I've seen worse drawings from Japan than America to be honest.

>>17165742
You'd have to be looking real hard to reach that level.

>>17165595
That's the one. Thanks for clearing that up.

>>17165942
Not really. The bar for making erodoujinshi is nonexistent.

loli is shit and buying dojinshi is for chumps
/thread

>>17166615
The ones that are of worth are the ones that get uploaded online. You literally have to comb through Comiket and buy the terrible ones from nobody circles which might not even end up on Toranoana.

>>17166671
There are plenty of shitty doujinshi online.

>>17166810
Why are you so hung up defending shitty Western loli art?

>>17166840
I'm not defending it, but don't go all "Nippon superior banzai!" like they don't have shit artists and dumb fetishes too.

>>17167006
Not surprised you'd pull the "weeb" card when it's commonly accepted that Japan has the West beat in loli output. Drop the relativist bullshit.

>>17165486
You're an idiot. It's impossible that everyone of us is getting tailed by secret agents. And that's exactly what I was referring to.

>>17164291
https://www.hobbyheart.com/monobeno-dakimakura-hugging-pillow-cover-p-6123.html

bought this, no issue. don't let anyone see of course.

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>>17164291
>>17165507
Illegal to have a 2D imaginary fuck-buddy.
I wish my 12 year old A4 paper was allowed.

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>>17165507
Meanwhile in Canada.

>>17168223
You're even stupider. Spies aren't going to follow you because you jack off to anime. Spies don't even follow the people who lock others in their basement for years. Unless you're a suspected terrorist or drug provider or human trafficker or spy yourself, no one on that level has time to waste on you.

If you think they're following you around because they think you'll become a criminal, it'd be easier just to plant some shit on you or just pull your records from your isp and see if there's already something they can get you on.

>>17168937
>censoring a newspaper
why

>>17165507
somebody just made this up

>>17170086
It's not that we are all being literally spied on technically, but we are having all our information stored so anytime someone does want to spy on us, it is simple and easy for them. And getting some good ol loli porn imported might be enough for someone to pull up your portfolio and place a marker on you. So, still spying I guess.

>>17164291
Just get it shipped with something that isn't us postal service to be safe. Its not like loli is illegal but be safe anon.

>>17170100
because he is the offender and he doesnt want to get doxxed

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>>17164291

>>17172122

This map is bullshit for canada and I think it was based on this one >>17165507 with canada added. Don't fuck around with loli in canada.

Also >>17165507 itself is like 5 years old so it's not all accurate. For example, it's illegal in Alaska now.

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>>17172122
>>17165507
God Bless NC.

>>17172145
canada has pretty absurd loli laws,
but they only seems to be used at the border. otherwise they dont really bother with it.

>>17172147
What's that, alcoholic Dr. Pepper?

>>17177278
non-alcoholic vaguely cherry flavored red soda

>>17170123
That's actually one of the most accurate infographics I've seen. There is legislature at the federal level which makes loli illegal through wonderful wording involving obscene depictions of children.

It's not true that loli is 100% legal in the US, but you're extremely unlikely to get charged for it unless you live in certain areas, even if customs examines your package.

>>17172514
I've heard stories of Canadians getting v& for looking at loli online, and just a few months ago someone from /jp/ was arrested for importing an onahole with loli box art.

>>17177278
People often think that the first time they see it. It's just a cherry soda made in my state, but it's my favorite.

>>17177749
Did they get released? How do we know they got arrested and were from here?

>>17164291
Probably not seeing how major cons usually sell shit from Fukka and other doujin stores without giving 2 fucks. It's like if customs does a search on you and you have doujins in your bag, they might give you death looks but they really won't do anything.

>>17164291
no

All this misinformation constantly flying around just drives me nuts, especially those dumb fearmongering charts.

The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that laws criminalizing sexual depictions of children that are clearly fictional and do not involve actual children in any way are a direct violation of the first amendment. Yes laws exist in various areas that do just that, but all precedent says they're clearly unconstitutional and would be quickly struck down should they ever be taken to court. Law enforcement knows this, and so said laws are only ever invoked to ramp up charges on people caught doing other crimes, like actual CP or child abuse. No lawyer is going to challenge a law against cartoon porn when the client is facing charges against actual children, so the laws stay on the book.

In short loli is technically in a legal gray area, but unless you're involved in actual CP or breaking laws that apply to all pornography in general (such as mailing through the USPS) you have absolutely nothing to worry about. I've tried to keep close track, and far as I'm aware nobody in the USA has ever been convicted of a crime solely for having loli porn.

Now if you're somewhere like Canada or the UK then ha ha, you're fucked. Enjoy your thought police.

>>17180079
>such as mailing through the USPS
How do Penthouse subscriptions work then? I think that was just for unsolicited mailing iirc.

>>17180079
So what isn't USPS? SAL?

>>17185125
DHL

>>17178181
The ona paste has a bit of his story. He took a deal. Don't think he was jailed. Canada's fuckin retarded though.

>This thread still isn't archived
I admit I'm new to /jp/ but damn this shit is slow.

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>>17194212
Who are you quoting?

>>17164291
It depends on your state.
Remember the Christopher Handley case?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Handley

>>17194212
Leave. In any case, get out.

>>17194679
>Handley was convicted in May 2009 as the result of entering a guilty plea bargain at the recommendation of Chase

>>17194738
Like any anon has enough money to actually challenge the law.

>>17194749
You are provided with a lawyer if you can't afford one. If you feel your lawyer is incompetent you can ask for another. Even acting as your own lawyer would be preferable to pleading guilty. Prosecutors won't accept a deal if they think they can win.

>>17194228
You're "new" and you want to call others redditors? Please leave. You aren't getting along well.

What about loli or shota shaped onaholes?

>>17198197
see >>17177749 >>17168937

Might not happen in USA though.

What's a shota shaped onahole? A tiny dildo? Onahole(male?)

>>17165456
>>17165497
>henreader made a exclusive pic for fakku
>but only 1 his manga was translated by them
Do they deliberately ignore and don't translate his manga because it's too loli or he just doesn't draw manga for x-eros anymore?
He used to be pretty active before that whole fakku deal

>>17168937
this was doddler, right?

>>17198359
It has a tiny flaccid dick above an anus.

>>17168937
>what appeared to be an animated, underage girl
So basically, what someone arbitrarily decides is a cartoon image of and underage girl gets you treated as a real sex offender. Canada is a fucking joke.

>>17198197
the UK has websites selling onaholes like wanta.

they just remove the boxart before they sell them. The only place I've heard of people getting arrested for onaholes alone is canada

>>17194679
>>17194749
>>17194797
makes me wish for some lolicon hero with lots of $$$ to burn would take this shit to court and fight it every inch of the way.

Pretty sure there was a similar case in Sweden that was thrown out of court in a matter of minutes when the lawyer defending pointed out they were fictional drawings

https://www.svt.se/kultur/dom-mot-mangaoversattaren

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>>17172147
NC blows dude

>>17165567
>>17198371
This
What happened with henreader?

>>17201534
He got arrested.

>>17205885
That was Quzilax

>>17177278
>>17178181
>>17172147
Every time I drink it I think it tastes like Dr. Pepper

>>17164291
Fucking hell I thought Murrica is the land of freedumbs?

Even here in Germany you can order them without any problem.

>>17207808
Murrica is the land of protect da chilluns

>>17207808

you forget,
>anglos

>>17207808
>Murrica is the land of freedumbs
Not even close. Just notice how some new anons freak out when 2D lolis are mentioned or posted. Burgerland was a mistake.

No, because 2D porn is 100% fictional, unlike 3D porn which requires actual human beings actually having sex. It would be the same difference between a movie about fictional terrorists and video footage of actual terrorists. As long as no laws were broken in the process of making something, you're protected by the 1st Amendment.

But on the other hand, if the artist used real children to draw the doujinshi... you're pretty much hosed.

>>17214839
I can legally watch videos of people being executed, murdered, tortured. Those ISIS beheading videos were even shown on the news, though not all the way through. It's weird that viewing evidence of a crime is only illegal when it comes to child porn.

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>>17165507
so if I'm I'm a red state can I still read it online?

>>17215264
Of course, as long as you don't download anything you are safe.

>>17215213
It's not weird. Prudes want all porn banned and child porn is one of the easier types to make laws against.