Kawakami Thread (Horizon, OnC, City Series, Hexennacht,...)

>>17133339
WOW 3 new chapters of City
Wellllllll..... Stop teasing me

In 36
>Naito and Naruze prepared their bow and pen
Shouldn't it be a broom?

>>17135143
Maybe js06 did a mistake? on 5-A and what is translated of 5-B there are some repeated words and a few that doesn't make any sense.

>>17135159
If you see a problem but don't know how to fix it then point it out here so it can be addressed.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_7

>>17140199
The reasons behind why all that shit happened is so dumb that I can't believe this was written by Kawakami.

>>17140836
Why? Theme of unavoidable world destruction was in every other Kawakami books. The same about taking responsibility.

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>married woman daki
This feels wrong somehow.

>>17141985
Just self insert as the husband. Amore

>>17142018
You know, one of these days Muneshige is going to get a Gin daki gifted to him by one of the crazy people on Musashi for one reason or another.

>>17142039
Andon the other side it's Lypē Katathlipsē. I wouldn't put it above them really.

>>17142050
And on*

>>17141735
You're not even understanding what I posted, OnC has a good reason, same as CITY wich is only connected at the end and Horizon which is basically killing Destinty before it wipe out every form of life. On hexennacht is different, is not about the destruction of the world (in case you don't know the real world is alive and kicking without any problem) is about selfish desires.

>>17142275
>(in case you don't know the real world is alive and kicking without any problem)
That's only asumption. Maybe it's too connected to neverending doom circle, we don't know.

And how whats Mikoku did in OnC is not about selfish desire? Or even what Musashi is doing to a degree? And Destiny wants to kill herself because she felt responcible for what she did to the world, how its any different from what Shoko is doing? Screw the people of the world, if this world is broken I'll create another better one, even if there is no guarantee that what Destiny is doing in Horizon will succeed, the same is here.

>>17142351
>That's only asumption.
No it isn't, and that was spoiled long ago, even the manga version gives you a slight glimpse of that. The real world which is Kagami's world is there without any issue or problems.

Mikoku's desire was founded by ignorance of what truly happened and once she learned about the truth she cannot stop, so team Leviathan has to deal with her mess after Mikoku understood that they wanted to save the world as much as Hajji did, the difference was the feelings from what happened in the past were still there.

Musashi is not doing the same, at all. Same as P-01m with Hashiba and PA O.D.A, Musashi wants to save the world through emotion, saving everyone who wanted to live outside the rules of the world, while Hashiba wants the same but using reason, even if that means making sacrifices.

Regarding Destiny, you're not getting the right idea. Destiny doesn't feel guilty about something he/she did, destiny is tired of watching humanity + the rest of the species fighting each other over and over again, killing themselves and losing lifes that could be saved if it wasn't for their nature. Destiny always existed in the world, but humanity gave it a personality so they can manage destiny in the way they wanted but as always they failed and now Destiny reached the conclusion that the only way to save humanity and the other races from their destruction is erasing the current world and restart it so this shit won't happen again.

P-01m's mission is basically using the ether moon to put Destiny inside her body and then kill herself, that way only the personality of Destiny dies and the world can continue.

tl:dr Shoko doesn't know what exactly is going on in the world and she did some shit for her own reasons. Any other story didn't have the same basis, it has a clear purpose and goal plus a very precise difference between reason and emotion, at least on Horizon and OnC (cuz CITY is different).

>>17142050
Brilliant.

>Master Muneshige! Master Muneshige! Why have you fallen to your knees while clinging to a dakimakura?

>>17142549
>P-01m's mission is basically using the ether moon to put Destiny inside her body and then kill herself, that way only the personality of Destiny dies and the world can continue.

Didn't she said that even if they succeed in killing Destiny, world will be fucked up regardless?

>>17146017
TENZOU`S DIK

>>17146017
Nice.

>>17146017
Uhhh is this the cover of GT3?

>>17146672
Yes

>>17146225
They will be half-fucked, the destruction will happens but it wont kill everyone in the world, that way the survivors can rebuild everything.

Now that the process is happening, the entire class Plum has to find another option and Asama is the one who's especially looking into it.

Why are the SPEER technohexen called Kime and Angie?

>>17146829
Because that's the names their mothers used? LOL

>>17146829
As usual, alternate kanji readings.

Kime seems to be based on reading Yoshiaki as Kimei, although the "ki" part is a bit of an odd reading.

Angie is based on reading Yasuharu as Anji and then (just for fun) extending the ending vowel to make it Anjii.
Whether or not Kawakami intended for that to be the Western name, I don't know, but it looks better and matches nicely with the AnG chat name.

>>17135885
I've spotted a few problems.
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Character_Introduction
Date Shigesana when it should be Shigezane. I don't know if the other character introductions have the same error, in which case it would need to be pointed out to prevent copying the error into future character introductions.
Also, Yoshiaki's nickname is given as Ushuu instead of Oushuu.
On https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Kyoukai_Senjou_no_Horizon#Series_Overview Girl's Talk 2 is misspelled Matsuri to Yumi. This one is simple to fix but requires a registered account.

https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_4
>Instead of interpreting the situation differently, it felt like she was passing the right by truth.

>>17148106
Thanks.

>Also, Yoshiaki's nickname is given as Ushuu instead of Oushuu.
Ushuu is correct in this case.
Ushuu and Oushuu are different provinces:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewa_Province
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutsu_Province

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>>17148145
I tried to register an account on BT and the fucking page and the forum keeps telling me that I'm blocked, not even banned, blocked.

What the fuck is that? is something about IP's?

>>17148238
For whatever reason, BT account isn't the same as a forum account. If I remember correctly.
You need to create a forum account if you want to use that. There's no point in having one, honestly.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_8

>>17148145
>Ushū
Oh, that's why my search for "Ushuu" didn't return anything on Wikipedia.

/kawakami/
/kawak/
/kawk/

>>17151244
/kawakami/
/kawa(...)i/
/kawaii/

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>>17153022
The resemblance is uncanny.

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>>17153022
>>17154170

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>>17153022
>>17154170
>>17154194
Almost.

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awooooooo

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>>17159044

Wasn't there some character height chart somewhere for Horizon? If not did the LNs mention Futayo's height? I haven't got up to reading the Horizon LNs yet.

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>>17160333
They're in the Encyclopedia.

>>17160352
I just noticed that the 150 cm mark on the first scale is in the wrong place (should be where Uzy is). The distance between each bar is obviously 10 cm, but there are four bars between 180 cm and 150 cm.

>>17160352
>>17160745
Thank you very much. What do you know, I guessed about right, 168cm-170cm.

>>17160745
That must be why they included Kimi and Asama in both.

>my waifu is 165cm of perfection

>>17160745
>>17161098
I don`t think it's wrong. It's just that the number indicates the bar above and not the one below it.That also means Futayo is 158cm (without her hair accessory)

>>17161346
It's wrong because the numbers in every other case indicate the bar below the number. It's the odd one out.
They could have at least moved the number up so it's closer to the bar above than the bar below.
This is really fucking minor nitpicking in an encyclopedia of over a thousand pages, I just happen to enjoy nitpicking

>>17161565
No, I agree with you.
They could have just used 140 instead if they wanted to have it there but I get the feeling they just copy/pasted the text from the 150 below.
Kimi, Asama and Horizon line up correctly for it to be 10cm intervals in both cases but the position of the 150 definitely makes it look like it is referring to the line below instead of above.

>>17161628
Very nice.

>>17161565
It's good nitpicking to me. I wouldn't make sense to me any other way. That would mean Futayo would be 160cm which is a lot smaller than my estimates I based off her figma and scale. 170cm makes a lot more sense to me.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_37
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_38

>>17162318
It's here! Thanks as always.

>>17162318
>this is your miko for tonight

>>17162318
Good shit.

Btw js06 can you clarify something please? We know toori have sex with Horizon but he did it too with Asama or Nate? because for now he just did some groping and kissing before the last battle, but what about sex with them?

>>17164909
No sex yet.

>>17164909
Horizon got the first night and the story hasn't reached the second night yet.

Horizon is lord as fuck. Prima noctis and dgaf all day erryday.

>>17170197
Horizon, what is your arm doing?

>>17170197
I love that Shakespeare is just barely off screen.

>>17170197
Sauce?

>>17170197
Not enough Nate, but still cute as fuck!

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>>17172142

N-New chapters when? or did we get hit by Kamachi again?

>>17179797
New BloodSign...

>>17179797
Kamachi strikes once a month. As fast as js06 is, he still takes around a week to translate the whole volume.

>>17179980
No Kamachi next month though.

I expanded the Regularly Updated section on Baka-tsuki and found that only Horizon and City Series populate that section.

It made me a little happy inside.

>>17183709
Even better, there's basically no chance of it being licensed. But man, I do feel sad about not being able to read Grimgar and Rokka no Yuusha anymore.

So someone point this out in Baka-Tsuki about 5B - chapter 36 since i have not reach this chapter i was hoping if someone can see if it is a mistake or not
>"He was officially moving from Musashi to Mito via Sanada, so his presence there was not a secret."<- shouldn't it be from Sanada to Mito via Musashi?--

Whats ur fav kawakami quotes?

>>17202642
Heo singing Star Spangled Banner amidst a dogfight against Alex.

>>17202642
EROUNDIC

>>17202642
I mean, basically everything Kimi ever says, but if I had to pick just one:
>“What are you talking about!? I’m having fun playing tentacles and I need to think about what options I would have if this were a porn game, so don’t interrupt! Or do you want to join in!? You do, don’t you!? But there’s no room, so you can’t! Jealous, aren’t you!?”

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>>17203766
This.

Also, Sayama's speeches.

>>17146017
>>17146672
What will it be about I wonder? Her clothes look like of Musashi's. I thought GT was about pre-Horizon.

>>17207762
GT is always set at the present, is just that the girls tell a story from the past that ties with something happening now.

>>17146225
>>17146731
Yes. I hate to spoil but I'm going to have to say the killing process probably also failed. Since in Hexennacht they still have to go to the Moon to kill the "witch".

I guess the issue would be finding out what exactly happened between the end of Horizon and Obstacle Overture. Even the name is appropriate since the event in Overture leads event in Hexennacht.

>>17147928
From how Korean TLs came out, I'm going to have to say it's intentional. There's footnote for every single chat handle of 10 Speers here, so.

>>17207860
>I hate to spoil but I'm going to have to say the killing process probably also failed. Since in Hexennacht they still have to go to the Moon to kill the "witch".
That's not even close to be right m8, not a single chance.
In Horizon they're using the ether moon to stop the apocalypse, doesn't matter if they use it to kill Destiny or for another option. On Hexennacht the Moon on the world created by Shoko is just something that is not real, just a replica where she lives, the original world that allows the concept of contradiction on Kagami's world doesn't have 2 moons.

Obstacle era is about creating many worlds and see if those worlds can survive destruction until humanity and the rest of the races finally creates one that can survive that process, Hexennacht is only one of those worlds and that's why Kawakami stated "one of countless obstacles". City is the final world that can survive destruction.

>>17208680
>on Kagami's world doesn't have 2 moons.
Is kagami's world and doesn't have 2 moons*

Sorry this fucking phone sometimes sucks balls.

>>17208680
>Obstacle era is about creating many worlds and see if those worlds can survive destruction
You see that's the thing I don't get since it didn't seem to have happened with this clear purpose. The whole reason for multiple worlds existing was because Kagami's sister created them, right? It wasn't with the purpose of avoiding destruction.

>>17208748
That's exactly one of the things why I didn't like Hexennact too much, the continuity we used to get since OnC is not present there and it has some plot holes here and there.

Now if I want to give Kawakami some slack, CITY is weird as fuck until everything wraps up at the ending (that's what js06 said).

Should I post the world construction?

>>17207794
Ah I see. Thank you for that fill in. I'm trying not to read it until Korean one comes out. Trying to support the author by buying legal copy.

>>17208789
>>17208748
At CITY, it was revealed that the purpose of multiple timelines (someone actually told me it wasn't parallel-universe like you think it is but rather it was universe looping itself from ascending to destruction, which makes more sense to me desu, as none of event in OBSTACLE is "concurrent", as mentioned by Kawakami-san) was to find the "right answer". But it's clear that "right answer" was never found by the end of the Horizon, that much we can at least agree on.

Also, if we are to force the OnC plothole, biggest one would be the fact that we have all the other parallel world people in the Horizon (and by extension, it would mean AHEAD universe also) knew that there are non-Humans that exist in the world, but they seem to lost knowledge of what happened during the event of OnC, which would indeed be ironic, especially with all the Elf-race, Dragon-race, Demon-race and all.

>>17210125
I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you posted, but I'll try to answer based on what I could get.
I don't think it's a plot hole the people from Horizon not knowing about the origins of some of their races. Remember there's the whole EDGE age where everybody left the planet for some wacky space adventures. A LOOOOT of time has passed since AHEAD, to the point that even to the long-lived in the HORIZON era things have always been that way, and those races were already there with them.

>>17210415
>Wacky EDGE age
>Wacky space adventures
>Hey, let's give fate emotions so it could screw us over and try to kill itself by doing XXXX

Now that I think about it, they still haven't explained XXXX.

>>17210415
Didn't Kagami said that her sister fought some wacky spaces wars or did i misunderstand this dialogue?
>“When it was a space war, she had injuries dealt with using individual superpowers or a healing pack while machines were repaired using repair equipment. The common pattern was for it to look like the enemy was in the center of the universe, but then everything would gather there and begin to be annihilated.”

>>17213563
>still no solo Futayo daki

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>>17217701

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Appearantly In The Border Hora is rearing somewhere this weekend. Season 3 soon?

>>17225691
AbemaTV is a streaming channel that plays anime series late at night, it looks like they're having another reairing of Horizon tonight and next week. Maybe season 1 tonight and season 2 next week?

They did it last year, or early this year.

>>17225691
>>17225957
https://abema.tv/timetable
Okay, in 1 hour they're playing eps 1-7 back to back.
https://abema.tv/now-on-air/midnight-anime

Last time the chat was pretty fun when it was airing, a lot of Japanese Kawakamifags were in there and a few people who had never seen Horizon before.

>>17225971
https://abema.tv/timetable/channels/midnight-anime
Should have linked this actually. Whole timetable for that channel for the week.

>>17225691
>Season 3 soon
Fuck you.

Also.to help a bit, you need to check where is Studio 8 team actually, if they're on other projects then there is no chance for anything for Horizon.

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>>17213563

>>17232331
I have never before needed something so desperately in my life.

>>17232331
>That blush.
What a fine piece of art!

>>17232331
This is a blue board you sick fuck.

This daki is beyond meta. Nothing less from /kawk/!

I wish Kawakami had snuck a Blackadder reference into England.

>>17213563
So does the other side have her without her limbs attached?
Because that's what I need.
Also a Masazumi daki.

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>>17242633
yea

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Why can't exist another anime/ln with such a good universe development as horizon?

>>17244800
There is always logh.

>>17247322
LOGH is really more of a character study mixed with political philosophy, though. It's certainly good, but quite different from Horizon's titanic worldbuilding.

>>17244800
Most authors aren't crazy enough. Kawakami is the only one who can fill up 780 pages just for the setting document.

>>17247352
Or unbuilding thereof, haha.

>>17232554
>>17232426
Creator commentary was something along the line of "I originally was going to make my original version with my own original drawing, but after so many requests from people NOT TO..."

>>17247358
Well played.

>>17248772
Who's the kid?

Who's the mother?

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_9

How far did the Horizon Manga went?

Did Futayo appear in the manga?

>>17251547
Is Js06 finally done with Blood Sign?

>>17251772
Since monday or tuesday.

>>17251565
The Horizon Manga covered the first volume of the books., so yes.

>>17247357
I believe he said he wrote the basic concept of the entire Kawakamiverse back in his High School age? So that's literally 20 years ago, at earliest? Though it's clear that he still hasn't completed the knacks out on EDGE.

>>17251796
I can't wait to read more Horizon, hopefully Js06 delivers because I couldn't care less for Hexennacht.

>>17254389
Seems like I'm one of the few who's actually enjoying Hexennacht.

>>17254419
I've been enjoying it too. In special the battles and Kagami.

>>17254436
Kagami is love, Kagami is life

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>>17254419
To be honest is not like Hexennacht is bad, but it lacks in a lot of things that other LN's coming from kawakami dont.

World building is almost nonexistant, character development is basically centered only on Kagami and Horinouchi, everyone else is the usual jobber and disposable characters you fin on any random light novel out there, the info dump about this world is on the same level.

OnC didn't have that problem, CITY has more depth than Hexennacht even with the episodic nature of the stories, Horizon is the pinnacle of the LN genre and Forth doesn't count because is not even a light novel.

What Hexennacht is in reality? an attempt from Kawakami to make a magical girls story that didn't hold the elements that make any of the other titles so special.

>>17256343
I want to see "Magical Girl StaLin!" adventures.

>>17253202
In this sense, Kawakami is just like Kinoko Nasu, except Kawakami didn't give up (cash out) half way through.

>>17254419
I'm really enjoying Hexennacht. Sure, it's different from Kawakami's other works, and somewhat lacking in the titanically-complex-worldbuilding aspect, but it's got plenty of it's own charm and the characters are great. The battles are fantastic and it's great fun.

>>17253202
>So that's literally 20 years ago
Actually CITY is 20 years old, when Kawakami did that was more than 25 years ago.

>>17256343
I feel ya, Hexennacht is the same as NT for Kamachi. A great idea that was executed like shit.

>>17256684
This is a low blow.

>>17256343
My main problem with Hexennacht is the complete lack of tension and stakes. Yea, it's kinda another "saving the world" story. but you never felt like the characters were in danger, like battles meant something( we are fighting for... another rank? well ok), like there is weight to everything. This is ok for magical girl genre but really unusual for Kawakami works. Even Nanoha have more tension than this, and it says something.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_10

>>17260169
Thanks

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They're getting bigger, aren't they?

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>>17266561
Compare Asama in Volume 1...

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>>17266567
...to Asama in Girls Talk 2. Which takes place a year before Volume 1.

>>17266561
>>17266567
>>17266580
[kawakami influence intensifies]

>>17266561
>>17266567
>>17266580
Is just Satoyasu and his style changing a lot. When you look at OnC you can see that his style went from "old school" to "early Horizon" in 7 volumes.

>>17267212
Forgot that he SUCKS at drawing mechas.

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>>17266561
Futayo got noticeable upgrades as well.

Here's her in volume 1...

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>>17267246
Now her suit can barely contain her Futayos in volume 9B.

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>>17267246
>>17267264
Also, Class 3-Plum oppai chart

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>>17267264
It's due to eating, training and being in close proximity to Kimi.

>>17267272
>Nate bigger than Suzu
That chart could not be more wrong when the physical exam says that Suzu has bigger ones than washboard Nate.

>>17267281
Eating Kimi out I could maybe see, but I have a hard time imagining her training Kimi instead of the other way around.

>>17267272
How can Kimi's boobs be so perfectly round?! Is it also part of her divine protection? Makes me wanna play with them all day long!

>>17267818
She may not have the most circumference, but quite the shape indeed. Truly the sort of high quality chest required for the Giant Breasts Defense.

>>17267818
>Is it also part of her divine protection?
I love that in Horizon this could actually be true.

>>17267289
That's the anime chart.

>>17266567
>>17266580

The art shift is pretty noticeable. The older one could pretty much pass for something in OnC, but the newer one is really different. Just look at how the eyes are drawn.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_11
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_12
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_13
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_14

>>17268785
Fantastic. Js06, thanks again!

>>17267898
Asama's seem like they'd conform to a grasping palm, while Kimi's look like they're firm enough to bounce coins off of.

With that in mind, I now require a hips and ass chart.

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Preview is up.

http://dengekibunko.jp/books/1707hrizonGT3/?page=1

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>>17270900
That's it. Looks like it's going to be fun again.

It felt like Satoyasu artstyle changed again.

>>17269771
All breasts are great, they're just great at different things. Asama's would have a great texture and shape for surprise groping from behind, fitting with how easy she is to fluster.
Kimi's meanwhile aren't as receptive to a surprise grope, which makes sense given her likely reaction to such a thing, but if she's into it, the firmness would make for an amazing paizuri, and unlike Asama's which would likely squish down into themselves, if Kimi's willing to lay down with you, hers would still be perky and tempting against the force of gravity.

>>17270900
Poor awooo. When will her King dick her already?

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_15
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_16
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_17
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Chapter_18
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume4_Afterword

>>17273252
Fast

>>17273252
Thanks

>>17273252
And that was all.

Honestly, it felt rushed as fuck, so much potential inside this story and ended on nothing. Unless Kawakami wants to create different stories that are connected in some way like he did with CITY.

>>17273252
So... when the Book of Creation released its power, all the worlds have become real?
I don't get the ending.

>>17275450
You have to read between the lines using what information we already had on the Obstacle era.

The overview of all the eras (https://pastebin.com/fSp9FpaD)had this to say about Obstacle:
>Some unknown means were used to create several worlds based on the destroyed Foundation World and they were repeatedly destroyed.
>The aim was to create a world that would not be destroyed, but these strange worlds in which a few materials were removed or added to the Foundation World all ended up being destroyed.
>Originally, this was thought to have been a single world, but investigations show an uncountable number of worlds were created one after another and each one had its history proceed to the level of the foundation era.
Presumably, this is referring to the Book of Creation.

In an untranslated part of City, it's explained that the previous worlds were destroyed because they did not contain enough powerful "things" to avoid destruction, but that the stronger "things" they did contain would survive that destruction and remain in the world afterwords. City is almost entirely composed of those stronger "things" which allows it to continue existing without being destroyed.
So presumably the Book of Creation was storing up the stronger "things" from each world its owners created and destroyed and it released all of those into the real world at the end of Hexennacht, which lays the foundation for the City era (although history still has to get reset somehow).

For more detail, the "things" mentioned above are known as Concept Existence Lives and they are a fundamental part of the world that says certain concepts will exist in that world.
City used the examples of automatons and mechs as concepts inherited from previous worlds and the end of Hexennacht showed us dragons and witches as examples of concepts being brought to the real world.

>>17275559
Oh, thanks for the explanation.
And what's the difference between the manga and novel version concerning the ending?

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Why Nobunaga has gave the body of Horako if it doesn't change anything? What's special about Horako body?

Ive thinked of "well, its cause horako body can handle multiples deadly weapons (but doesn't make sense)"

>>17277860
Ops, mistyped *was gave

>>17277860
Maybe if you stop posting like a retard and at least spell the names properly I can answer you.

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_39

>>17278932
>There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page.

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>>17278961
It can take BT a while to update properly.

>>17278961
Baka-tsuki's servers are a bitch.
Try this one.
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_39&oldid=522400

>>17279001
Works, thank you.

>>17277940
woah, too salty

>>17270874
Oh right, this releases on the 8th?

>>17273532
>Unless Kawakami wants to create different stories that are connected in some way like he did with CITY.
I think that is pretty much guaranteed.

We are probably getting the fringes of the OBSTACLE universe so far from Obstacle Overture, Hexennacht and OO-Formation.

>>17279508
The 7th

>>17279520
I guess I will pick it up after school then.

Since horizon s3 never what are the odds for a Chronicle anime?

>>17280195
0%

I'd like to get started reading Horizon or Owari no Chronicle, but being new to the series I know next to nothing about it.
What should I be aware of, warned about or otherwise know before getting started?

>>17280217
Begin with OnC and be ready for insanity and eroundic happenings. MC doesn't give a fuck so hard that skies burn and earth trembles.

>>17280950
That sounds promision. Should I expect to read something that takes itself seriously inspite of said insanity or do I get into it with a more relaxed mindset?

>>17280962
They have armageddon coming shortly and a shitload of adversaries to overcome, but it still doesn't stop the hijinks, so you shouldn't approach this as some sort of grimdark thing either. Some people will die and it will be sad, but then eroundic attacks again.

>>17280984
Ok, thanks for the info. Looking forward to reading OnC once I finish the book I'm reading atm. Anything else?

>>17280998
Have fun. Really, I hope you like it.

>>17280998
After that hope on Horizon

>>17281084
hop*

>>17280216
I would of thought if it happened the shit would of sold better than horizon and if sunrise adapted it in its entirety it has potential to be to one of the best anime ever.

>>17278932
FIFTY TIMES

>>17281102
I also like OnC very much. I`m holding my hopes for when 2nd Ahead happens. A man can dream, right?

>>17281102
Try to lurk more about the anime, Owari was the first choice but since Kawakami reached the ending S8 decided to pick Horizon instead since at that time it wast still at the beginning.

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>>17280998
>Order to read
-OnC
-Horizon
-Hexennacht
-CITY

That's the chronological order and the best way to read it so all the pieces fall into the proper places. Another advice is that you never take what you're reading in a literal way, if there is one thing you should always keep in mind is the fact that Kawakami loves having a lot of mystery and secrets aroud that are related to the characters and their past.

For doubts about thos (you will have them quite a lot) ask to the ones who can really answer you, which are a couple of oldfags here and js06.

>>17281138
I mean it should still be remotely possible since it's finished and it's not as difficult to adapt due to shorter volumes. Kawakami would love to help them again and to be honest that fucking April Fools PV hurts my soul to this damn day so I want them to make it a reality

>>17281961
I find Kawakami's IRCing characters endearing.

>>17281961
Someone get the "Kawakami's lunacy.jpg" and dissuade the newfag from binge reading it.
This series is most enjoyable at a comfy, relaxed pace. Those are my two cents.

>>17281961
How long should I wait before asking questions?
I've read the blurbs in the intro illustrations for the 1st volume of OnC, I haven't finished my current book but was curious, and there's something about Ley Lines and WWII. Does OnC start with an alternate history?
Forgive my ignorance, so far I'm completely unspoiled.

>>17282207
Well, It's kind of an alternate history since they had contact with people from other dimensions and shit.

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>>17282038
Oh there is more.

>>17282207
It will take a long ass post so you have to read what I'm going to post right now.

Also, just when you start getting confused you can ask questions but be aware that you can be spoiled by doing it so I would say, after reading an entire volume.

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>>17282207
>>17282387
This is the long ass post, useful info.

1. World Construction
Ever since the City World came to be, many different worlds have existed and been destroyed. However, it has been mostly proven what kind of world it was based on.
That world is tentatively known as the Foundation World.
As the name suggests, the Foundation World acted as the foundation of the current world and it is thought to have had a similar flow of history. The Foundation World is broadly divided into four eras:
-Forth
-Ahead
-Edge
-Genesis
These four eras are connected, but the Foundation World was destroyed at the end of the Genesis World.
After the Foundation World’s destruction, the world was experimentally recreated and destroyed again and again in search of a world that would not be destroyed.
This significant wandering era was a great obstacle to the world, so it is known as:
-Obstacle
During this great obstacle era, either the world got tired of being destroyed or there was some other reason because a world made not to be destroyed was finally created.
And that is the City World that we live in.
It is known as:
-City
Now, let us look briefly over those six worlds.

2. Forth
The pre-hope era.
This was the calmest era of the Foundation World. There were plenty of wars, but it was peaceful on the macro level and the only crises were on a regional scale.
It had little individuality, but it was likely an era focused on personal points of view.

3. Ahead
The progress era.
The Foundation World began to change during this era, but the reason is not well known.
All we know is that various things and technologies began to exist at around this point.
Bipedal humanoid machines.
Large aircraft.
A world of electrical signals and the technology to reach other planets.
The existence of other races, bodily modifications, etc.
It does not seem these things initially existed in this world, but it is not known where they came from. For this reason, people were not able to make these technologies entirely their own during this era. They used them as if borrowing them, they imitated them, and they researched their foundations.

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>>17282393
>Cont

4. Edge
The cutting-edge era.
As people grew more and more used to the technologies gained during the Ahead era, they abandoned the earth for some reason and went into outer space.
The details are unknown, but a single star system caused a rebellion for some reason. In this era, the ether-like fuel source that was discovered during the latter part of Ahead became widely used and the technologies researched during the Ahead era were created to suit this world.

5. Genesis
The great foundation era.
In this era, people returned to Earth.
For some reason, people became unable to use most of the old technology and primarily used the technology gained during Ahead and Edge. This resulted in that super technology fully belonging to the Foundation World. They began to produce for themselves what can be seen as the foundations of what exists in this City World.
The earth was forced to revert back to the dark ages, but it recovered afterwards. However, the war that caused the end of the Edge era restarted and the world was destroyed.

6. Obstacle
The great obstacle era.
Some unknown means were used to create several worlds based on the destroyed Foundation World and they were repeatedly destroyed.
The aim was to create a world that would not be destroyed, but these strange worlds in which a few materials were removed or added to the Foundation World all ended up being destroyed.
Originally, this was thought to have been a single world, but investigations show an uncountable number of worlds were created one after another and each one had its history proceed to the level of the foundation era.
More about each of those will likely become known in the future.

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>>17282399
>Cont

7. City
The city era.
Or perhaps it should be called the City World. This world was created during Obstacle as a world which could defeat the power that leads to destruction.
In the name of progress, the City World gathered the technologies from the Foundation World and all of Obstacle. Currently, City original technologies are being produced as well.
The protection put in place when this world was constructed seems perfect so far, but this has become a world of self-responsibility where the residents try to do something about it for themselves.
Well, even now there have been times when the destruction of the world seemed only a step – or maybe even less than that – away from destruction, but it seems someone has always thrown a punch to correct things.
Perhaps that is because the destruction of this world would mean your very existence has lost. That is a good reason to put some effort into it. I wonder if there is anything good about doing that. Yes, I’m sure there is!
Okay, everyone. Do your best with whatever until we meet again.

So you have to understand that OnC is placed on AHEAD, Horicon on Genesis, Hexennacht on OBSTACLE and City obviously on CITY era.

>>17282405
That's a quite interesting, if vague, timeline.
Is there anything other than the place of OnC in the chronology that I should retain from it, though? Maybe that they are using technologies they don't understand or produce by themselves, procured by unknown means?

>>17282447
Not really, this is only Evolution and nothing more than that.

OnC is the break point between the real world and the "new" world. Once you finish OnC you will understand what that means.

>>17282466
Sounds good. I guess I'll leave the questions until I finish 1B at least.

>“Well, Sasuke – oh, and I mean the dragon one – only told me after the fact, but most Terrestrial Dragons apparently had their species modified up in heaven. …If what Torahide was bragging about is true, his ancestors were dropped from satellite orbit onto surface bases as the vanguard for conquering a planet.”
EDGE when

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=City_Series:Volume5a_Chapter4

>>17283862
I got to say, got pretty confused reading this chap

>>17283862
Nice

>“Bind… Lype Katathlipse!!”
That's nice

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>>17284226
Paris is probably the worst in that regard. DT is close, but it doesn't further confuse matters with the multiple languages mess.

At least Berlin and DT include information sections like this after every chapter.

>>17286647
Not the same anon but how weird and confusing gets the story close to the end of CITY? seriously the beginning was nice and easy to digest but it's getting more and more complicated.

I just hope this wraps up at the end in a good way because other anons have said that it only make sense at the end.

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>>17286820
Berlin is much more straightforward and
at 5 volumes makes up the bulk of City's latter half.

DT can get bogged down in made-up terminology too, but the computer/vidya theme was (for me) easier to keep track of than the Pointing and Signing stuff in Paris.
It also helps that Horizon's sign frames and Mice are reused elements from DT, so some of it is already familiar.

>>17251547
>their Magino Devices received the spell circle instructions informing them of their next location. The movement and attitude control were handled by the Device’s management spells.
>attitude
This is not supposed to be "altitude" and is correct as-is, right?
>the position of a craft (such as an aircraft or spacecraft) determined by the relationship between its axes and a reference datum (such as the horizon or a particular star)

>>17287067
Yes, attitude is correct.

>>17287071
Thanks, I was just curious since I hadn't seen it used this way before.

>>17283862
>>17286647
>>17286886
Why these scans look blurry? is because this is old as fuck?

Okay, I'll get Girls Talk 3 tomorrow instead because the local bookstore didn't have it in yet.

>>17287286
IIRC, Muton used some magic on them, so in original state they are even worse. Jpeg is a bitch on lower quality levels as well.

Where should I start reading? I've seen the horizon anime and enjoyed the characters and I've seen a lot of posts about the authors shared verse. There's just a lot, I'm not really sure where to start.

>>17288919
See here:
>>17281961

That being said, if you want to just hop straight into the Horizon LNs, you can. Reading OnC first is helpful, but each series stands on its own.

http://baka-tsuki.org/project/?title=Kyoukai_Senjou_no_Horizon

The anime covers 1-A through 2-B. It's better to read from the start, though, since plenty of stuff got cut or compressed for the anime.

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>>17288085
Those are actually untouched and I did nothing to them, they're simply old and bad scans.
The ones you remember are from volume 3 where Nackbjorn did some magic on them.

>>17289537
What happened to him?

>>17288962
That being said, the translation for volume 1 is pretty bad.

>>17289537
Wow, that's superb work. Thanks Nackbjorn!

Next Kawakami book is going to be Horizon volume I think.

>>17292079
Did he say so on the GT afterword or are you assuming it?

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>>17292110
In the afterward, yes.
>次は本編となります。
>the comfiest slumber party

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Things heating up.

>>17292125
Oh, Gin switched to the normal-sized arms.

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Starting from the first illustration after >>17270901

>>17292141
Nobody does poses quite like Satoyasu.

>>17292153
Where'd the chapter 6 illustration go?

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>>17292155
Somehow the timestamp filenames fucked up I think, or my phone adjusted its clock during the middle of this.

This image and the previous, chapter 6 one are before chapter 7, and the rest follow after assuming their order hasn't been fucked as well.

>>17292171
Oh, man. I really want to see this. Does Gin still think she's being NTR'd?

>>17292186
Seijun looking handsome as usual

>>17292186
>>17292190

Masazumi's the suavest character I've ever seen.

>>17292164
Oh ok cool. Anyways, thanks so much for posting.

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End.

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>>17292186
Compare with this, from 1-A. Look at that massive art shift.

>>17292209
What in the world is going on here?

>>17292214
Not sure but if I had to guess it would be the subject of a doujin.

What is the actual plot of Girl's talk and why does it look for damn interesting?

Oh Jesus, my hands hurt just looking at all this, but still I`m stoked.

ARTBOOK FUCKING WHEN

>>17292834
What.

>>17292599
In general? The Horizon girls taking turns telling stories about some past event to create a record that contains the whole story.

This one in particular? The story of Mary joining Musashi and how that relates to IZUMO initially refusing to let the Musashi land there.

Kawakami is clearly having a lot of fun with these and he uses the "it's a story they're telling" setup for unreliable narrator gags, phantom tsukkomis from characters who aren't even there, and cutting back to the present for multiple characters to comment on the story.

>>17292164
Ishin Suuden.

>>17293064
well that seems very interesting I cant wait to read it in the future

>>17292957
That anon has the pleasure of having to bring forth every nuance of Satoyasu Grey™ out of the scans.

>>17292196
>>17292204
Just look at this shit, holy hell.

Thanks, Biches

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_40
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_5B_Chapter_41

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>>17292141
My husband is handsome and dashing as always, Thanks Satoyasu!

>>17296809
Talking food!

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3A_Chapter_2
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3A_Chapter_3
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3A_Chapter_4
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3A_Afterword

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>>17301007
Fast as fuck.
Thanks, based js06.

>>17293089
She's also Pope Urban VIII.

>>17304621
>Pope Urban VIII
>Urban VIII was responsible for summoning the scientist and astronomer Galileo to Rome in 1633 to recant his work.

>>17295654
>Hori-ko: “I’ve been wondering. Is there any real reason for Adele-sama to be inside there?”

I was actually wondering this myself.

>>17307572
It got answered the next instant when she used the spear.

Finished reading the Girls Talk volume.
I'm glad Kawakami started this side series so he could tell smaller Horizon stories.

And I didn't expect a Mary novel to include such an in-depth negotiation concerning Tokugawa-era Japanese law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buke_shohatto#Articles_promulgated_in_1615

>>17310593
One of my favorite parts of Horizon is the overflowing amount of world history, even in places where you wouldn't expect it.

>>17310593
What was that last part about? >>17292204
>>17292207
>>17292209

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A girl's talk volume with Mary and Gin aka 2 of my favorite females? GREATNESS

>>17310593
Any news regarding Volume 10 of Horizon?

I guess Kawakami said something about it in the afterword.

>>17311975
The short version is "spirits with a connection to Mary".
The long version is the entire book.

>>17314174
Only that it will be "next".

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>>17295654
>On the opposite side, someone gasped for breath as they arrived next to the princess.
>It was a shrine maiden.
>She was out of breath and bent forward, but she held out her hands to reject the bamboo bottle that Musashi’s princess offered her.
Kawakami brought back the sports corn soup gag all the way from 2-A.
That was almost the best part of an already great chapter.

>>17322927
This is glorious. Kawakami always does fantastic running gags.

>>17322927
>But when they realized the “girl” had been sent flying by the Muneshige Cannon, false arms, a spear, and milk bottles, they realized they were actually seeing a crossdresser.

After five volumes (and twelve books), the name Lypē Katathlipse has finally been entirely replaced by "Muneshige cannon".

>>17318954
>Narumi was also already asleep, but she had a drawn mandible sword next to her futon.

>It looked like she was prepared to join a battle at a moment’s notice.

>…Our married girls are way too serious.

Wait, married?

>>17323771
>“You’re used to being defenseless? You accept him in at night?”
>“N-no, wait…! Horizon, don’t do your ‘you thief’ bit with the futon!”

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Anyone has Hexen 4 and Horizon 4A/B/C in AZW3?

>>17328757
Calibre can do conversions between ebook formats.

>>17328791
Sigil might be a better bet, seeing as how calibre is an insecure pile of spaghetti slapped together by a guy who doesn't care.

>>17328872
Wait, what? Can you tell me more?

>>17328791
But Calibre does a shit work when I convert it to another format.

>>17324134
Why did Toori call it the Muneo cannon this chapter and why was the C in cannon not capitalized that time? Did I miss something?

>>17333745
Muneo is Toori's nickname for Muneshige, kinda like how he calls Masazumi "Seijun". It's basically taking the name "Muneshige cannon" one step further.

>>17333745
I don't think the capitalization really matters.

>>17333753
>Muneo is Toori's nickname for Muneshige
I forgot all about that.

>>17333757
It doesn't really, and especially not in dialogue.

Can someone spoil me on who or what ??? is?

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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3B_Chapter_5
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3B_Chapter_6
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_3B_Chapter_7

>>17318954
>Six of the dragon’s claws had been severed during the battle. She had used four of them, but one of the remaining three had flown here.
Simple math says this is wrong. Did she only use 3 dragon claws during the fight?

The mediafire on just-believe.in doesn't seem to have Hexxenacht epubs or Horizon volume 4 epubs. Do those exist anywhere else?

So i was reading hexennacht v4 chapter 1 and i don´t now if is just me or this doesn't make sense

>“Horinouchi, you said before that you have made a number of improvements over your mother, didn’t you?”
>“Yeah,” said Hunter while throwing her hands in the air. “And she tested them on me.”
>“E-either way,” said Horinouchi, “defeating the Black Witch is our most important task, so greater attack power should be a good thing.” >“Looking at it another way, this means we already have attack power equal to the Black Witch’s, doesn’t it?” asked Horinouchi.
>Now that you mention it, thought Horinouchi before saying more.
>“It may be somewhat insane, but we can also rival the Black Witch’s defense…or rather, we have a way of repairing our Devices. And on the level of recreating them entirely.”

She mentioned to herself?

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>>17335559
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2ea1fmakzaem2

Hexennacht 4 is still incomplete since I was busy. Same goes for Kimitoasamade 3-A.

Unrelated, but a heads up to Ivan.
My copy arrived today, I'll rip it apart and flatten the needed pages but I won't be able to start the scanning process till next Monday.
I'll send you the MEGA folder via e-mail once I start.

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Someone can please post the RAWs for this.

>>17336670
That was directed at whoever said she improved over her mother.

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>>17337570

>>17338757
I mean the whole novel.
(btw this cover is pretty af)

>>17338922
I'm pretty sure that DT is in with the other CITY raws.

>>17336976
Got it.

>>17340203
I can't find it, i already searched on the mediafire folder but nothing.