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[New to the Game? Read first, ask later]

Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
http://aircalc.net
http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818
Warspite: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HHpzOklOtf0l4UaKRQ5_5kKXoFfTK6qGFAXBvzJmemI/edit#gid=0

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

Drop/construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices/sprites/furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/silfumus/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA
KanColle Arcade's second event has been announced for this spring, with Southern Oni and Southern War Oni as the bosses, and Armored Carrier Oni also encounterable.

The KanColle movie is out. Movie trailers: https://youtu.be/7udGu_a0AvY https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8

Debuffs exist for the E3 HP gauge boss, and for both E5 bosses. Debuffing the bosses lowers their armour, making them easier to kill. How to debuff (current speculation):
-To debuff the E3 HP gauge boss, acquire in E3 S ranks in nodes K, P, Q, R and V once each.
-To debuff the E5 bosses, acquire in E5 perfect S ranks in air raid node C once, S ranks in nodes D and E once each, and AS+ against an air raid once.

WARNING: Debuffs will reset if switching from any other difficulty to Kou (hard). Debuffs will not reset otherwise.

News:
-The Spring 2017 event "Sortie! Northeast Area 5th Fleet", with 5 maps over 2 operations, has started. It will end on May 22, after which Nagato will get Kai 2.
-Kamoi, Kasuga Maru/Taiyou, Shimushu, Kunashiri, Etorofu and Gangut/Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya are the six ships added for the event. The Hayabusa series of interceptors has also been added as event map rewards; with Model IIIA 54th Squadron being rewarded for Otsu (medium) and Kou (hard) difficulty, with the latter also rewarding Bomb Carrying Model III Kai 55th Squadron (an interceptor-bomber) and Model II 64th Squadron.
-Anniversary seasonal lines (but not sprites) have been removed.
-The bug with bonus firepower from improvements to secondary armament guns (15.2cm single gun, 90mm single high-angle gun, OTO 152mm triple gun) has been fixed.
-A Kai 2 is planned for Kumano and Yura this early summer. Saratoga and at least one more BB and CL will also get a second remodel.
-The 5th year of KanColle will see something "interesting" regarding foreign ships.
-New Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers are under plans to be added.
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hello
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>>17011569
Last dance or more chipping?
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>>17011582
Check on your viewer.
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>these dupe Roma, Okinami and Hagikaze when i want Litorrio forcing me to buy slots
Well played Tanaka, well played.
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>there are people who aren't done with the event and just idling by now
Kill yourselves.
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>>17011608
Just scrap Fubuki.
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>>17011616
I'm waiting for Akashi to repair my ships that only went as far as yellow.
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>>17011616
I don't want to go back to idlecolle.
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>>17011618
Next event will be one where you need to bring Fubuki to reach the boss node.
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>>17011618
Fubuki helped me through 2 events, and i kinda like her a bit, so no.
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>>17011608
You didn't max your slots in your first month of playing?
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CTF or STF for E5 LD?
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this event is fucking ridiculous. over 90% of my retreats have been because of carrier crits or closing torpedo. I think the only time I was sent home by anything else was one run of e-3 where a gold cruiser crit one of my transport destroyers. why the hell are there so many line ahead nodes this time? I'd trade another 20k bauxite just to go back to diamond every node like before.
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>>17011662
CTF.
Not only do you trade the troll sub node and an air node for one easy node, you also get to take Dive Bombers which have a bonus vs the boss.
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>>17011666
>having trouble with such an easy event
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>>17011669
Actually I'm having quite a bit of trouble with that first node.
Nu dodges everything and proceeds to crit my one of my ships. I guess I should run some route support.
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>>17011457
Kunashiri pleases old men for fuel!
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>>17011681
She's literally an Escort. The other two do something like that too.
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>>17010736

Thanks. I cleared it once I changed the setup.

Abukuma cleared the last meatshield, Verniy took a hit for the team (she had search light on her), Kasumi cut-in and did a whooping 300 damage to the boss. Nachi and Kiso chipped in, finally KTKM-sama cut-in and finished the boss.

Nice event overall.
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>>17011662
>>17011678
Go suijou.
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>>17011688
>Nachi and Kiso chipped in
God damned chokers, they need to be scrapped.
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>>17011677
so what is the secret to not getting rekt by nu kai and closing torpedo from shitty destroyers that dodge everything because of combined fleet accuracy penalty?
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>>17011703
More attempts.
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>>17011703
Sparkle.
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>>17011703
Sparkle.
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>>17011703
Sparkle.
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>>17011707
>>17011708
>>17011712
fuck off
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>>17011688

Got 9 new ships + 4th Akashi from this event. The only new ship I missed is Shimushu. I don't plan to farm her.

Total spending:
Fuel: 134k
Ammo: 72k
Steel: 64k
Bauxite: 64k
Bucket: 385

I wasted 42k fuel to farm Roma.

Overall the I feel that the difficulty is:

E5>E2>E4>E3>E1

The CA boss was surprisingly tough.

Welp. Back to idlecolle.


>>17011699

Nachi helped to carry yasen equipment, and Kiso is just being Kiso, so I don't blame them.
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Will Abukuma finally be going to get deathroned by Yura?
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>>17011742
Yes, like Kinu would.
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>>17011750
>would
did*
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>>17011742

Minisubs or bust. Without minisub no one can rival Abukuma.
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>>17011753
Ooyodo is Abukuma's rival in special maps.
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>>17011688
>>17011724
Should've used Ooi instead of Kiso.

>>17011753
If Yura had midget sub, then that'd be unfair for Kinu unless Tanaka buffed her to carry them as well. And I doubt the fat fuck would do that.
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>>17011757
The AP pads are so obvious.
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>>17011757
I thought Yamato had huge boobs?
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>>17011758

Kinu can do AACI, ASW, and expedition, she basically has everything.
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Pan paka pan!
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>>17011765
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What were the best Comiket in terms of KanColle content such as doujin?
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>>17011767
AACI is weak. Unless the map blocks Akizukis and Maya I have no need for it.

Abukuma can also do ASW.

The only CL you need for expeditions is non-kai Yuubari. You can leave daihatsu carrying to Mutsukis.
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>>17011757
I like the guns turning.
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>>17011775
>The only CL you need for expeditions is non-kai Yuubari.

You mean Tenryuu and Tatsuta.
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>>17011779
Non-kai Yuubari has cheaper fuel consumption than any form of Tenryuu or Tatsuta, and the only expeditions needing a CL that are worth doing don't consume ammo.

By the way, 21 and 37 aren't worth doing.
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>>17011765
She's not that big. Or at least wasn't, because every other piece of art her artist draws, she has no pads and is still pretty big.
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>>17011703
Using Kitakami and Ooi.
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Is it worth leveling dupe army dogs for her equipment?
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>>17011802
Not really. But you only need to get her to level 25 to get it and she is a bit rare to get, so you might as well if you have no other pressing priorities.
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>>17011802
Yes.
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>>17011802
The Auto-Gyros are pretty good. Type 3 ASW plane is useless.
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>>17011840
But isn't it second best after the auto-gyro? Ryuuhous plane isn't really better and other bombers just worse ASW wise.
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>>17011854
Same ASW and can actually do damage, how is that not better?
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>>17011855
What do you do damage to in 1-5? Subs need only ASW.
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>>17011858
Since when is 1-5 the only map with subs? I don't even bother using planes for 1-5.
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>>17011742
Abukuma is the leader of desron1
What did a literal who like Yura do?
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>>17011876
Flagship of SubRon 5 and later DesRon 4.
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>>17011876

Yura sunk three ships. The closest Abukuma ever came to sinking a ship was Kitakami.
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>>17011876
>Abukuma is the leader of desron1

Yes, most CLs were flagships of something, that's what they were built for. What did she actually do? Besides ramming Kitakami and taking more damage than her in the process.
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>>17011933

>26 March 1943: The Battle of the Komandorski Islands:
>N Pacific. Off the Kamchatka Peninsula, Siberia. Rear Admiral (later Vice Admiral) Charles H. McMorris' (USNA ’12)(former CO of SAN FRANCISCO (CA-38) Task Group 16.6's USS RICHMOND (CL-9), SALT LAKE CITY (CA-25) and four destroyers engage Vice Admiral Hosogaya's Fifth Fleet cruisers NACHI (F), MAYA, ABUKUMA and TAMA and HATSUSHIMO and WAKABA escorting Convoy "D" that is carrying troops and supplies for the garrison on Attu.

>In a four-hour running gun and torpedo battle, SALT LAKE CITY and BAILEY (DD-492) are damaged by gunfire. The other destroyers are not damaged. ABUKUMA is undamaged, but NACHI is hit several times. McMorris' attack causes the Japanese to abort their resupply mission.

>28 March 1943:
>Arrives at Paramushiro with the convoy. Disgraced by retreating from an inferior force, Hosogaya is relieved of command and forced to retire.

As far as I can see, that's the only time Abukuma fired on another ship, but it's not clear if she actually hit anything herself.
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>>17011973
Wait, so he was supposed to risk the convoys' safety because "muh navy pride" or something? Or was it unimportant to begin with?
I think completing the objective should've taken priority.
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Are Bismarck's 38 kai still best for FBBs?
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>>17011982
>Wait, so he was supposed to risk the convoys' safety because "muh navy pride" or something? Or was it unimportant to begin with?

It's no different than the first naval battle of guadalcanal for the Americans. Cruisers and Destroyers going up against Battleships and an enemy better in night battle with working torpedoes.
Sometimes you just need to do what needs to be done, and in his case he needed to supply the garrison even if it came at great cost of his supply ships.
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>>17012005
No Iowa's are.
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>>17012007
>of his combat ships.
Not supply ships.
Remember the IJN also got mad at the guy who failed to sink the transports at Savo island.
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It doesn't matter who is flagship when it comes to boss support right?
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>>17012034
Why are you posting some random discord drama here?
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>>17012034
>>17011987
>Discord
Fuck off
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Shoekaga-san? Too cute!
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>>17012018
Nah, Bismarck kai3 is superior
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>>17012018
At least at default they are.
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>>>/a/157133450
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fuck this stupid fucking game. I finally get past E with 0 damage only for wo to crit bep to orange and then fucking tsu finishes her off with closing torpedo even from diamond.
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>>17012091
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Are buying bulks of irako/mamiya worth it?

I really can't be fucked to sparkle 24 ships. Just how do you guys manage it?
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>>17012100
by not sparkling
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>>17012100
Sparkling combined fleet is a waste of time.
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>>17012100
I dont sparkle anything but support.
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>>17012095
of course when I finally get to the boss it's red T so I can't kill shit. how can anyone doubt the rng in this game is rigged? it should be obvious to anyone who ever tried clicking on the secretary to hear new lines only to get the same one 12 times in a row.
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>>17012091
>>17012148
>kidou
>no sauin
>complain about red T
What the fuck are you even doing, mate?
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>>17012148
>Red-T
>CTF
You should quit.
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>>17012148
>red T

You have no one to blame but yourself, retard.
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>>17012155
And you don't even need that, a normal Saiun will cancel it too.
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>>17012161
Yeah no shit, I just posted this one because it's prettier.
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>>17012100
I used 3 Mamiya in E-5 out of frustration from So. So yes, the quarterly quest was worth every sortie.
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>>17012148
My sides.
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EO got stuck where it shouldn't. How can anyone put up with this shit?
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>>17012222
What?
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>>17012226
I mean, the viewer.
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>>17012234
I realized that, I mean what do you mean it got stuck where it shouldn't.
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>>17012236
I went back and check again, nothing to blame besides my shitty net. Case closed.
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Wow, the route nodes are way harder than the boss.
Weird thing about day clearing is the difficulty hearing the boss' sinking line because the day BGM is still playing.
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>>17012267
how do you do that damage to the boss during the day? I have dive bombers on my carriers but I've never been able to hit for more than 60.
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>>17012267
>Iowa in escort instead of Bisko when Bisko is better at night
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>>17012316
Looks like double hotels, green t, and land bombers that actually hit things. I have shit bombers and still almost cleared out both dysons on the kill run.
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>>17012316
My dive bombers didn't get shot down.
>>17012321
Iowa is better at day
>>17012325
No green T, but LBAS did pretty well.
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Since we've seen an Abyssal by Potatoman, that means Abyssal Fubuki is coming soon right?
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>>17012334
Gross, I hope not.
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>>17012336
Why, you don't want to sink her?
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>>17012334
We just entered the golden age of Shibafu. The trend continues upwards from now on.
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>>17012340
The less potatoes the better.
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What is she holding?
>>17012342
Doubt it. Taiyou's ass is flat. Also not many Japanese care for Taiyou.
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I'm finally going to start the event, as this is my fleet planning.
How shit is it?
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>>17012367
Pretty shit. Balance more.
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I tapped out on E3 and did medium, but I managed E4H. Myoukou my ringed ship getting the final blow, natch.

125 buckets left. How hard is E5H/M?
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>>17012334
She already exists?
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>>17012372
Care to elaborate?
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>>17012367
>Zuikaku in E2 and E4
You have a dupe?

Other than that it looks mostly fine to me, maybe use a better BB than Haruna for E2 and take Abukuma for the transport shit on E3.
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Why.
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>>17012374
Why would you tap out on E3?
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>>17012390
I don't have a dupe, I messed up there, instead of using Zuikaku on E2, I'll use Kaga.
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>>17012380
Use Kaga in E-2 HP phase for Reppu mulling. Zuikaku has lesser planes.
Switch Mogami to Tone/Suzuya. E-3 is that easy, and Tone/Suzuya packs more punch in E-4 in case you get stuck.
Abukuma (if luck modded) should be on position 5/6 so that she can focus to take down the boss easily.
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which is more annoying, when you damage a ship to 1 hp and then everyone else shoots at it and misses, or when your ship shoots a carrier that's 1 hp away from being disabled and misses?
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>>17012403
Because 3 phases, the reward for H wasn't that good, and I wanted to conserve buckets.
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how does this shit happen?
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I want Wo to fuck off.
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>>17012431
I love it when those retards blame the game or RNG for shit like that.
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>>17012422
Both are equally annoying.
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>>17012397
Keep trying, she's not invincible.
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I've gotten all the event drops this time around besides for Harukaze who came back as a E3 drop.

Should I go and actually farm for this drill-hair obaa-san or nah? I have all the other Kamikaze ships leveled for routing purposes.
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>>17012431
The game doesn't come with a stupidity buffer.
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>>17012454
How can you have a granny club when you left one out?
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>>17012454
>not wanting muh drills just for the sake of drills
What's wrong with you?
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Poor girl has no art.
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How hard is E4? What ships should I be careful not to lock in E3?
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>>17012454
No
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>>17012462
She can go roast with the other tatos.
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>>17012463
Don't lock your best CVs or CAVs, other than that, go nuts.
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>>17012374
Route nodes will fuck you off more than the boss node. Also, route nodes will fuck you off a lot.
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>>17012468
Well your best CAs can do it too.
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"Spring 2017 was a mistake"
t. /jp/
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>>17012463
1 SSV, 3-4CVs, 1-2 CAs

For me, chipping was relatively easy, last dance was difficult. Fighter/taitei/bomber/bomber for 1 and 2 LBAS, both on boss node, all interceptor on 3rd and base defense mode.3-4 fighters on CVs, rest bombers. Sanshiki on CAs, Wurfgerat and torpedo on SSV. Boss support on. Extra slot on SSV with repair team/goddess.
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>farmed roughly 100 fruitless E3 runs last event for this slut without getting her
>got I-13 on my second sortie to E1 this event

Fuck Tanaka for doing this bullshit, having an event drop return so quickly.
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Can I clear E5 on hard with these resources?
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>>17012498
>worked hard to earn I-13 with a combined fleet
>then suddenly newfags and shitters alike can farm her easily
Feels bad, man.
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>>17012507
As long as you don't farm and have good equipment yeah.
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>>17012507
If you don't clear it with those resources then you don't know how to play the game.
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>>17012507
easily
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>>17012507
That's plenty good. What are you so worried about?
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>>17012498
>Came to me in 6 sorties in Winter
>Got a dupe in 10 sorties in this event
Guess this loser sub likes me.
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>>17012512
>>17012513
>>17012515
>>17012516
Thanks. Just making sure.
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To the heroes of E-4.
http://bato.to/reader#6448747f584fc349
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fd8aaokj5b6h4/KCDJ
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does double attack kusomi have higher expected damage than yukikaze cut in?
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Can't they just make a really hard to beat boss node instead of multiple Wo/Nu/Ta/So taiha roulette nodes?
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>>17012541
can't they just make the game not entirely rng garbage?
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>>17012321
Why would nighttime damage matter when you've got a daytime S?
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>>17012556
Because you're not guaranteed a daytime S.
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>>17012454
You'd better farm for her.
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>>17012558
Well he got a daytime S so the point is moot.
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>>17012565
>"this does not fucking slip"
>slips
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>>17012565
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>>17012565
>Maya
>Chokeai
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>>17012565
>wasting two slots
lol
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>>17012565
>kidou
Maya goes into the MAIN fleet, dumbass.
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>>17012570
I thought I still had 28 hp left before final form so I didn't even send boss support or use my 3rd land base. of course this was the run where land base actually did something and killed a meat princess. it's probably going to take another 20 tries for that to happen again.

>>17012575
they did fine. I would be done now if abukuma cut in or if yukikaze hadn't gotten blown up by granny princess.
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Best setup to farm Hitomi at E1H?
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>>17012565
>not using KitaOoi
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Eat gyoza.
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>>17012606
He's the potato hater.
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Is E2 the only place for Maruyu?
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Anyone got a guide for E3? Just finished E2
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>>17012611
>there are people who don't like the potatoes
They are cute.
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Why is Yura so beautiful?
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>>17012632
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>>17012632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfyFTzZDMM
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Wait if I want to farm E3 do I farm the transport or the other boss? I can't s rank the transport because the escort stays alive
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>>17012667
>Shitkawa
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>>17012659
Then farm the other boss.
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When you lose the 6v1. Wasn't even using Cut-Ins.
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>>17012689
>Kiso
Should've brought NAchi.
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>>17012689
Swap Kiso and Bep.
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>>17012690
>Should've brought a weaker ship

Good idea.
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>>17012689
>he fell for Kasumi and Bep meme
lmao
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>>17012696
Nachi wouldn't choke and she also gets the bonus. Even with the bonus, Kiso chokes.
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Abyssal Potato Fubuki, coming to an event near you.
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>>17012707
I want to fuck her straight.
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>>17012630
His reason for hating them is ridiculous too.
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>>17012616
E4-H had maruyus but good luck farming
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>>17012707
When you go abyssal, do your tits grow out?
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>>17012711
Why does he hate them?
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>>17012717
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S15238668#p15249146
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>>17012725
>fan art looks different from original
What a surprise!
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>>17012725
it's a combination of that plus how plain they look and decicing to play without them as a challenge
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>>17012733
And then you blog and complain every event about how hard and bullshit the game is.
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>>17012733
If you're doing it as a challenge, you suck it up when things don't go your way, not bitch about every little thing.
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>>17012725
>11 months ago

Time flies, and he's still as incompetent as ever.
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>>17012738
stupid potatos aren't going to save me from crits or bad engagements or land base doing nothing
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What have we learned from this event?
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>>17012763
Don't worry about drop only event.
Hitomi being in the E1 drop table is a huge fuck you to the people that spent 100k for Hitomi 3months ago
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>>17012763
Shitbafu shouldn't be allowed to draw new ships nor abyssals.
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>>17012763
That the potato hater is still retarded.

I can't wait for an event to need two CLTs to reach the boss.
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>>17012675
Well can other people reliably s rank the transport? maybe the problem is my fleet or air strikes
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>>17012763
That Spring events are back to being the easy ones of the year.
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>>17012798
Spring 2016 was easy though.
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>>17012802
Something with that many bugs cannot be easy.
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>>17012802
Even if it was, all the other events that year were easier.
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>>17012762
KitaOoi torps sink enemies which means less enemies to crit you.
Don't forget the times you complained about not having CVs or not getting equipment because a quest needs a Shibafu ship and other retarded stuff that you brought upon yourself.
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>>17012802
Literally. I sunk Central Hime on my first last kill, no idea what's the hard fiasco about.
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Man my PVP sucks shit tonight. I want my comfy idlecolle back.
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>>17012774
>new ships
She's fine.

>abyssals
Never again.
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>>17012802
LBAS RNG fucked me over too many times.
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>>17012779
Next event needs Fubuki for E-2.
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>>17012820
I think it's because it was mostly up to LBAS and airstrike RNG and that's not fun. A lot of times LBAS just refused to aim at the boss and I had to deal with over 800hp of bullshit and when I finally did get the kill she just exploded before shelling started while I wasn't even paying attention.
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>>17012861
I loved it. It was because of airstrike RNG that the levels don't matter meme held true.
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>>17012763
That 5-5 will be harder than the whole event this month.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/gztpjd.webm
Lewd VR games when?
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Is the new meta to farm Hiryuu's for their planes now as well?
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>>17012920
No.
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>>17012920
I've been trying to but she wouldn't drop.
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>new meta to farm hiryuu
stupid memefags
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>>17012953
Yeah, the meta has been around for ages now.
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>>17012953
>not farming her plane for the sweet +3 accuracy contact since forever
Do you even meta?
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Who the fuck would want a second granny? You mad, farmfags?
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>>17012936
Get her from 3-3 weekly
Level at while rankling at 5-4
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>>17012992
Nice mod fodder, dude.
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>>17012992
I don't even care for her so I stopped at Littorio for now.
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>>17012993
Levelling them is easy. Getting them is hard. And I do 3-3 all the time.

>>17012992
Just farm that 90mm.
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Best thing to come out of this event.
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>>17013002
I am glad she became popular even though she was drop only. Thank god potato carrier didn't gain any huge traction even if everyone got her after beating E3.
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>>17013002
Ugly rigging, cute girl.
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>>17013002
You posted the wrong pic.
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>>17013002
No
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>>17013023
>>17013022
No way that plane is too ugly.
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>>17013044
Not as ugly as Kimoi.
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>>17013044
It looks better than Kamoi.
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stupid beaver I'm replacing you with tsundere moustache girl
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>>17013050
Sure if you are blind.
>>17013048
Don't know who that is.
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>>17013044
The only thing wrong with the plane is that it appears to be bending near the back for some reason.
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>>17013052
>chokekai
>yukikaze
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>>17013052
Let me guess, 2 torpedoes.
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>>17013069
3. it probably wouldn't have even mattered if abukuma and kiso hadn't both been damaged since the first node. I remember someone joking after the last event that all they would have to do to make maps harder is change all the diamond formations to line ahead, and it's even worse than I thought.
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>>17013052
>having trouble with such an easy map
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>>17013052
>this fleet
kek

KEK
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Jesus Christ.
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>>17013052
>meatshield still alive at the end of yasen

lol
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>>17013104
What's wrong?
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Is LBAS supposed to do jack shit on the last map? It's all miss. Maybe one destroyer in the 6 strikes if I'm lucky.
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>>17013176
Mine did 150 to a BB hime.
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Go Kidou for last dance they said.
It's much easier they said.
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>>17013182
You're fine, though.
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>>17013182
It's easier at the boss node, it's harder before the boss node. 2 Nu kai nodes is a huge pain.
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>>17013190
It's the first node, nigger. And another taiha on the next one.
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>>17013182
Bring Ooi, drop duck for a TCI DD, drop Kusomi for Bep.
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Chokes are always funny.
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>>17013195
Kasumin is my TCI. I had Bep for chipping and she did jack shit. I would rather put Hatsushimo there.
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>>17013202
Nice filename.
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>>17013202
Can anything top this?
https://my.mixtape.moe/qmenwx.webm
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>>17013202
>slip
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>>17013207
>expecting a jobber to save the final kill
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>>17013207
Yes, don't underestimate Saberkaze.
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>>17013202
>use meme fuel
>still fail
This is why Kamoi will replace her.
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>>17013182
Uee support then. I mean this isn't rocket science.
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>>17013235
>route support
Never. EVER.
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>>17013202
Hayasui goes into the main fleet.
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Just hankousen my shit up.
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So this is what will happen in the future regarding the designation of the Kaiboukan.

- Enwiki and wikia staff will gather together and make a poll among thenselves
- Get a chosen designation (most probably EE or KB).
- Do a crackdown and change all designations to the one they decided a chosen day.
- Pressure other people like streamers, guide creators, the viewers developers (Poi, KCV, KC3 and EO) to change their programs to use their designation.
- Hope that all the sheeps will fall in line with the new designation they created. Ignore everyone with complains.
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before I got to final kill my rate of reaching the boss was 42%. in the last 5 hours it's dropped to 12%. I haven't seen the boss in 7 straight runs. literally what the fuck.
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>>17011750

I got 2 extra Kinu while farming. Anyone have triple Kinu K2 heading all of their expedition fleets or is it just a waste of blueprints?
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>>17013245
So why the fuck are you whining, then?
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>>17013320
It's a waste of blueprints.
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>>17013322
For some of that /jp/ magic.
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>>17013320
Kinu's bonus doesn't stack with Daihatsu, so even one is a waste of blueprints.
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>>17013320
Extra blueprint should only be spent on dupes Abukuma, Suzuya and Taigei.
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>>17013337
I spent a lot of them on farming Choukai and Fusous.
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>1+2
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>17012067

Kaban is a Mogami class.
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>>17012069
We were talking about guns dumbass.
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Suddenly I can't get to the boss after smooth chipping. The magic of bringing Yamato and Musashi.
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>>17013329
There is something really wrong with their arms.
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>>17013393
Nothing is wrong. You just think it looks weird because they have enormously large heads and drum barrels in place of body.
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>>17013337

You kept dupe Suzuya? Is it so you can have both variants?

Last I checked the CAV version was more popular.
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>>17013399
Now that you mention it the longer I look at the pic the weirder it gets.
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>>17013305
>- Get a chosen designation (most probably EE or KB).
Why are these wikia faggots so determined to cause shitstorms? DE was already a universal standard and they keep trying to change it just so they can have an excuse to fight.
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>>17013403
Yea, I bought another 10slots for this event so I have space to keep a dupe Suzuya. Already spent 4medals to put an 8inch into her, what's another 4more to keep another copy?
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>>17013357
>he fell for the Kusomi meme
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>>17013389
That's where the 38cm kai comes from, no? Unless you're willing to splurge on a lot of screws.

That said Iowa's guns are better.
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>>17013467
I'm aboout to jump out the window. I've used 30k bauxite and only gotten to the boss 3 times. this line ahead closing torpedo bullshit is absolute cancer.
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>>17013516
>he can't kill them all in the opening salvo
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>>17013516
Confirmed shit planes, shit fleet and support.
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>>17013529
>planes
get shot down by tsu

>fleet
miss x6

support:
why would I waste even more resources on something that won't even show up?
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>>17013539
>boss support
>not showing up
???
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>>17013542
>>17013516
>reading comprehention
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>>17013516
Please do. /jp/ will be all the better for it.
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Finally cleared 4-5(btw, nothing worked, only 4BB2CV did, somehow), so I have another BP.
Should I spend it on Suzuya or one of Fusos? Should I keep it for Nagato? It's an important and very serious question.
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>>17013627
If you have kai ni Tone class ships, go for Fusou. If not, Suzuya.
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>shipS
I have Tone. Chikuma is not k2. Still go for suzuya?
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>>17013627
Holding on to it until we know more about the coming K2s will cost you nothing other than the time and modernisation fodder you could otherwise spend on a BP-K2, and those are both easy enough to come by nowadays. If you want to play it safe, just don't do anything until we know more.

That aside, are Suzuya and the Fusous the only ships left that you require BPs for?
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>>17013627
What ships have you BP'd?
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>>17013627
We need to know more, but if you're still on struggling with 4-5, a Fusou would probably be good, but you also need a strong CAV.
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>>17013637
>>17013641
> the only ships left that you require BPs for?
As far as I know. Aside form chikuma and bisko, she's only Kai. And Kinu, I'm not interested in her k2, saw a quest tied to her, but it can wait, I think.
That's it, probably. Everyone else(minus already mentioned fusos and suzuya) are fine, already remodeled or don't need a bp.
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>>17013627
If you have problem with 4-5, you need Zara Due
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>>17013645
I don't really think Tones are necessary if you already have all 4 Mogamis at kai at least.

>>17013658
Which CAVs do you already have?
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>>17013666
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>>17013674
Chikuma can wait. Wait until the event ends and if Nagato's kai 2 isn't worth it then BP Kinu for the quest equipment.
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>>17013682
Ok, thanks, I'll wait. And try to level up kinu in the meantime.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28942479

anyone happen to know what song he plays during the video?
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>>17013661
I highly doubt he'd use her anyway.
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>>17013699
It's from gundam build fighters. Give me couple of minutes to remember the exact title.
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So with loli escorts, new oiler and the transport fleet-enabled escort potato, do you think the next event will be transport mission submarine hell?
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>>17013729
With mixed BBs, CVs and SSs.
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As a thropy PF, Etorofu will come back next event, right?
Ro, Harukaze, Asakaze, I-13 has followed this pattern.
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>>17013699
Second BGM is ON YOUR MARK from Gundam Unicorn.
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>>17013717
>>17013699
It's even called "gundam guild fighters".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zoNcVWPN1Q&list=PLKUeULYwO6Mfjpafz0IgtEuIz3AQYxu9V&index=3
It's a great fucking OST, one of the best. "Allied force", "6 times the passion" and are absolutely ameijing. And a very fun anime, give it a try(no pun intended) someday.
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Yuu or Ro?
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Just updated my EO, playing with the color scheme. Anyone has a good one to share?
The default dark seems weird somehow.
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>>17013773
Ro, but Yuu should have both.
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What would be an accurate recipe for Naka? I've got Sendai and Jintsuu, but RNG's giving me no luck.

Asking for a pal.
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>>17013743
In which world did Harukaze and Asakaze come back in their immediate next event?
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>>17013784
All 30 and 250/30/200/30
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>>17013784
Just play the game and try to clear the map up to 2-4. You will get her sooner or later.
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>>17013790
Wait, I thought they did...
nvm, Etorofu will come back for sure.
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>>17013771
>>17013762
>>17013717

thank you
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>>17013743
>>17013827
The last event reward to be available the next event was U-511, a Winter 2015 reward. Since then, only four drops (Roma from Spring 2015, Graf Zeppelin from Autumn 2015, and I-13 and Fujinami from Winter 2017) have been available the next event.
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>>17013841
Well, just my usual frustration that I invest so much for not getting her.
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Is the T97 torp bomber damage multiplier stated on the wiki a bunch of shit?
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>>17013884
Might be, but I was stuck on E4LD and cleared it a couple of runs after putting 1 T97 in each of my carriers, together with the regular good bombers.
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>>17013898
I also did not have any of the other torpedo bombers that have bonus. I did have one of the dive bombers, and I put that on LBAS.
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>>17013743
>thropy PF
Neither of those refer to anything in KanColle. Googling thropy provides little more than a site confirming thropy isn't a valid word in scrabble. The ship is a DE, so you must be using some chatroom abbreviation like "nvm" instead of a naval code, and not all of the ships you listed came back in the next event.
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People keep recommending CTF for E5H last kill because of the dive bomber bonus, but also that the Nu Kai node keeps throwing them back.

STF's route is pretty easy aside of the sub node and "usually" sinks the boss, but I worry about how having 2 Dysons instead of 1 will affect performance.
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>>17013906
If we must use sone abbreviation then why don't just call them kbk? kek
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>>17012498
Let me tell you about upset, I'm in the same boat as you.
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>>17013884
https://twitter.com/scandal_hinoto/status/861128240731009024
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>>17013841
>>17013856
Ah, fuck, I forgot about ships that eventually became normal map drops.

Correction: The last event rewards to be available the next event were Kawakaze and Hayasui from Summer 2015; drops Umikaze, Kazagumo and Libeccio were also available the next event. Since then, only 3 drops (Graf Zeppelin from Autumn 2015, and I-13 and Fujinami from Winter 2017) have been available the next event.
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>>17013913
>sone
>noun
>1. a unit for measuring the loudness of sound, equal to the loudness of a sound that, in the judgment of a group of listeners, is equal to that of a 1000-cycle-per-second reference sound having an intensity of 40 decibels.
Does that mean kbk stands for Abukuma?
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>>17012498
>>17012508
>>17013919
I don't mind it tbqh.

>>17013911
I personally cleared it with suijou due to running out of bauxite. It seems like it's as good as kidou, judging from the results of others.
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>>17013920
>daytime clear
Fucking Euros
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>>17013941
Chinese meme go away
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>>17013911
It the opposite for me.
I was using kidou at first and noticing how expensive it was at first so I tried going through the sub node to cut cost. Suffice to say, I got a bunch of taiha due to the lack of opening airstrike. It was smooth sailing after I switched back and beat the map with ease.
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>>17013966
Please share fleet.
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>>17013950
70W
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Can you recommend me a fleet for farming Shimushu at E4 boss /jp/?
It sure is cheaper than E3 but with my fleet I don't get S everytime and it bothers me a lot
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>>17013902
What's the LBAS range to the boss node? I might try sending a load of T99s for a lauh.
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>>17013969
See >>16996778, >>16996739
It is pretty much a cookie cutter fleet unless you have no jets and need to find your air power from somewhere else.
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>>17013998
Which boss? E5's is 7.
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>>17014007
E4, dingus.
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>>17013966
Not him but for chipping I gave OASW on some ships and for last kill switched to DA.
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>>17014020
E4's range is 1.
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>>17014028
Excellent, lots of room to experiment then.

And speaking of E4, will using Jets on cranes prevent them from targeting the boss even if you have torp bombers equipped as well?
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>>17014038
Yes. Put all your jets on one, so that the other can still pew pew.
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>>17014046
Wouldn't it then be wiser to put jets in the air bases instead?
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>>17014090
You can do that too. You don't get the extra jet round on nodes you don't LBAS though when you do it that way.
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>>17014101
>>17014101
The upside to putting jets in bases is that it costs a lot less steel.

The downside is that you only attack once, and it doesn't do that much damage due to the LBAS slots being smaller than the cranes' large slots.
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>>17013990
CA 4CV 1SS overkill but high on bauxite
2CA 3CV 1SS reliable, but a slip could happened
LBAS: to C 1 times and to boss 3 times

Anyway, does ritou revert back to her pre final formation after cleared?
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>>17014004
Do we need 3LBAS for boss kill? And how about support firing? Did it help?
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>>17014004
I have several T99 Esugas, should I use them in place of trops?
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>>17014133
If you're chipping, 2 LBAS is enough, keep the last for Interceptors to prevent damage to planes and resources.
If you're on final kill, all 3 LBAS on boss, increase chances as much as you can of removing the Dysons early.
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I'm fucking sick of farming E3, I'm going to clear and hope I get everything I need while clearing
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>>17014154
2/2 or 1/3 for LBAS?
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>>17014170
2/2 on 1st, 3 bombers 1 fighter on 2nd and 3rd.
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>>17014090
No, jets help tremendously to kill off stuff that can attack your sub.
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>>17014185
What can potentially threaten subs is in C node, just send 1LBAS there.
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>>17013911
iirc CTF is usually recommended together with Hayasui
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How is it even possible to gather 4000+ points in ~10 days? I can think how it's possible to gather ~2500, but 4000+ is absolutely insane. How?
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>>17014245
Having no life.
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>>17014245
Bots? Shared account? Android version implanted into the brain?
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>>17014185
I think she'll be fine.
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>>17014245
Considering his account has 10memedals and he isn't banned, seems legit.
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>>17014245
Is there a faster way to get ranking points than 5-4?
Just doing some rough calculations, if you subtract EOs and the Z quest, they'd have to be doing 5-4 at a rate of twice every minute for every hour of the day.
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>>17014260
Nevermind, I misread your post. Across 10 days is totally possible. It's a life of nothing but rank grinding, but it's possible.
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What determines A rank / B rank in combined fleet?
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>balding grandma
Into the the trash
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With a divebombers meme, should E5 fleet be like this?
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>>17014320
And LBAS setup for chipping.
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>>17014320
I am pretty sure Hatsushimo hit harder.

>nanzan
Hahaha
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>>17014320
>those token torpedo bombers

>>17014322
No need to defend your airbase.
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>>17014329
>Hatsushimo
Oh, historical fleet, but Kasumi would be more reliable, right?
>Nanzan
W-why? Doesn't it has, like, 11 bombing power? But I still have egusas anyway.
>>17014340
>token tropbombers
I can go full egusas but is it actually work?
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How hard is it to get the kamoi drop? Is it better to farm once you have Gangut with her damage bonus?
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What's the best way to get 10cm green guns for upgrades?
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>>17014350
It'll gimp you along the way but it'll be stronger at the boss. Drop the T97 Tomo; the others can stay.

That said you need to make sure the dive bombers need to be in a large slot lest they get shot down. Might move Taihou's dive bomber to the large slot, for example.
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>>17014322
55th squadron can't reach either boss.
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>>17014360
10/10/30/10 with DD secretary.
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I wonder... with a fresh shipment of erotic tofu obtained from northernmost hime, should I got to E-2 for Kunkashiri, Asakaze and Fujinami or back to E-3 for dupe Kamoi and Shimushu?
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>>17014355
Get her at E-3.
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>>17014371
Go for whoever you want more, and you can't get Kamoi dupes.
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>>17014364
Wikia comments said it has range 5 with Saiun, is that legit?
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>>17014383
I believe it's 7.
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>>17014390
Oh, right, 7.
So the comp would be Saiun/Fighter/ 55th squadron/Bomber, right?
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>>17014404
But isn't it better to just use 2 fighters and 2 bombers instead?
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>>17014350
I doubt your Kasumi has 60luck looking at Abukuma.
>ranking for nanzan
Egusa has much better stats and even the T99 egusa has much better misc stats and only lose 1bombing stat to nanzan.
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>>17014423
Wikia, again said it nukes russian hime.
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>>17014423
What if i don't have enough range 7 bombers?
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>>17014322
>>17014459
You don't have any T1 or T96 land attackers?
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>>17014466
Only 3.
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>>17014459

You craft some T96 if you've got the resources to spare.
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>>17014444
I wonder how often it can hit her.
Good luck for trying.
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>>17014429
Got it.
>>17014466
>>17014482
So, it's better just to ignore it. Thanks anon.
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>>17014481
Is it 240F260A10S250B?
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>All that concentrated bullshit on the wikia event page
I bet I can type in Hayasui doing bonus damage and those fuckers would believe it and leave it there.
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>>17014493
Ypuv mean it's not true?
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>>17014492

I think so, but you better search on http://kancolle-db.net/ just in case.
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>>17014322
I'll assume you have at least 2 more skilled 21s. And 7 land attackers in total (not including the useless 55th squadron). Go 2/2/1 for fighters and put the 54th squadron Hayabusa in your 3rd squadron.

Of course, make sure to successfully defend against an air raid first.

>>17014492
240/260/10/261 is better.
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>>17014509
261 is better only when you are not aware of bauxite does mot need tobe the heaviest resource which isn't the case here
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>>17014493
Any highlights you'd like to point out?
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>>17014517
240 gives junk as failures. 261 at least gives something useful.
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Just realized this.
So we have 2DE in the game already.
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>>17014493
They still suggesting "haha weed number" for fighter power instead of actually checking the AS requirements?
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>>17014517
>>17014569
Juast did 21 crafts with 240/260/10/250 and got one. the rest were fails and standard plane crafting gear.

>>17014584
But that "haha weed number" is actually enough to pull you through, unless Tsu goes Tsun too much.
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>>17014595
Yeah of course it's enough, but it's too much and you could be using more bombers.
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Is it worth doing "fake" CTF to get routed to the easiest route in E5? As in, 2 battleships, 2 CVs and 2 CVLs?
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Any composition for E-1 post-boss? I need to farm this map.
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>>17014612
5 asw girls
1 BBV like Ise with full zuiuns/seirans
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>>17014622
Thanks.
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>>17014604
Whta route would that be?
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>>17014612
> to farm this map.
For what?
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If you're struggling with E5H last kill, just use route support. Boss support rarely does anything and whether or not you succeed depends mostly on lbas at the beginning, so just focus on getting to the boss node more often instead of wasting resources retreating on E/F node.
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>>17014602
I don't think all those Tsu will allow you to bring more bombers without endangering your AA.
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>>17014629
A-E-F-J-N-O-T
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>>17014643
But that is the regular route for CTF, unless you are talking about post clear?
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>>17014632
Hitomi. I need a rest of E-5
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>>17014654
Never mind I'm retarded, I read the branching rule wrong.
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Why do Chitose and Junyou now only have 23 planes in slot 1 instead of 24?
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>>17014569
no one tell you use 240. That's 250
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>>17014789
Yeah, hit the wrong key.
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>>17014777
It's a bug. Clear the cache and try again.
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E5 Easy was a breeze, but I gave up on getting Roma and moved on to clearing. Now even phase 1 is kicking my ass. I've only got to BB Hime 1 out of 5 tries.

I thought E5 was supposed to be easy?
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>>17014777
sortie to 1-1 and resupply
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>>17014807
Easy for veterans, which is what the majority of this thread is composed of.
You can still beat it if you have a few things, it just might take more resources.
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>>17014493
You want to say there're no bonus damage this event?
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>>17014807
>falling for the memes of vets who have been playing since WWII
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>>17014827
>he isn't older than his ships

Damn kids get off my lawn.
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>>17014807
The main problem in E-5 is just reaching the bosses, which isn't all that hard itself but may take some time.
Only other problem that can happen is getting the worst possible rolls, but that doesn't happen often; otherwise you the boss on easy is sufficiently easy.
Just endure.
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>>17014859
I really hate those kinds of maps. Where you lose as many resources through support fleets going home empty-handed as you do actually running the map.
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>>17014859
Sounds like every event ever.
Routing is worse than the boss itself.
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>>17014902
My first was Autumn, and the boss was actually worse than the route. Only getting the debuff, with sheer luck, did i pull through after the 3rd day of bashing my head againd her hat.
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>>17014921
What, last autumn which had 3 ships that could instakill anything at the boss?
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>>17014924
Are you pretending to be retarded or do you expect newfags to have leveled Prinz and Sakawa from the get-go?
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>>17014935
Of course not, but that was more his problem than with the event itself.
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>>17014950
So if i don't have the shit necessary to clear the event easily i have no right to call it hard, because for me it is?
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>>17014950
If the only solution is "go back in time and start playing earlier" then it's not really a solution. Brute forcing it with massive resource stockpiles and lucky rolls was the only to do it otherwise.
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Is this Defensive landbase enough to get whitetext for debuff?
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>>17014999
Better use 2 while your on the first part.
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>>17014960
Who said anything about the event being hard or not? It was about getting to the boss being worse than the boss itself, if you don't have the ships you were meant to kill the boss with no shit that killing the boss becomes worse than getting there.
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>>17014999
Use all 3 landbases.
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>>17014999
I didn't even use Saiun.
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>>17014960
Newfags don't have the right for it.
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>>17014807

Spent the last 4 days farming bauxite because of the sheer number of planes getting wrecked in LD.

I used this guy's template. LBAS1 Full bombers to boss, LBAS2 bomber/seaplanes to support along south route. LBAS3 for air support.
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>>17014807
>I thought E5 was supposed to be easy?
It is.
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>>17014935
Shit was easy even with level 1 Sakawa and Pudding.
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>>17015072
I tryed with Sakawa. It wasn't.
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>>17013305
>- Pressure other people like streamers, guide creators, the viewers developers (Poi, KCV, KC3 and EO) to change their programs to use their designation.
I'd love to see them try
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>>17015084
Are you the English EO dev?
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>>17015084
Fuckkkkkkk. I want Etorofu. I love JS. But she hasn't appeared to me.
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>>17015070
Well, I just finished Phase 1 and debuffing, and I'll say it would be easy if CV Hime wasn't being such a bitch. Once, I started node M by knocking out literally everyone but her before battle, and she still taiha'd 4 of my girls who were all lvl 90+.
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>>17015102
>his Maya or Akiduki didn't disable CV Hime
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>>17015092
Sadly no, but I find it hilarious they are actually trying to force bullshit down clueless people. It's how CVB even spread in the first place.
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>>17015102
Levels don't matter.
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Kamoi please, /jp/ magic.
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>>17015084
>Poi
>ING
>implying the chinks will care
>KCV
>implying anyone's updating any English fork
>EO
>implying the English EO dev will buckle
Only KC3 will be affected.
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>>17015102
I don't remember the CV hime ever doing damage to anyone in my fleet.
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>>17015122
Meant for >>17013305
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>>17015102
I usually got to R like this.
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>>17015068
Why does he go STF for final kill?
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>>17015151
because your CVs will get knocked out before they can deal meme damage with red planes
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>>17015157
You mean Tsus will remove the planes? Because I almost never take any damage after the initial troll node.
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>>17015084
Wait, mine is PF???
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>>17015177
You can edit the XML file.
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>>17015177
Edit the translation, then set to read-only.
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>>17015184
>>17015195
Oh. I didn't know you can do that.
Can I append the credential authentication window to .config? Now I just use proxifier to bypass the process.
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Teste looks so much better when she's not drawn by Akira.
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>>17015217
>They used colored flour or something
Is this legit or is best potato lying to me?
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This is the destiny of all meme girls?
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What fleet for 6-4?
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>>17015267
Ooyodo, your strongest FBB, 2 tank DD, Akizuki with 2 duck guns 1 WG, CAV seaplane fighter mule.
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>>17015262
Huge boob DD has the best uniform. Prinz the worst. Bright red on blue is acid for eyes.
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>>17015151

I dunno, but I used the STF for the debuff node at C and to chip the boss's health gauge while I farmed more bauxite.
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>>17015129
Yeah, I expected to be sent back a million times there but two times she didn't do anything and the other time she just damaged Taihoe a bit.
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Let me your meme magic, /jp/!
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>>17015311
Good luck!
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>Finished the event and might as well clear the EOs
>Use the bob squad as usual for 2-5
>1st sortie goes as usual and get a kill
>2nd sortie sends me to B in the start
Well that is weird, that never happened to me before.
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>>17015356
It has a small chance of happening, but yeah, it hasn't happened to me for months.
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What the fuck, when did the wikia change it so you needed an account to post a comment?
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>>17015356
>>17015368
Shouldn't A be guaranteed if you have 2 drums?
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>>17015351

Had 5 of those.

Final kill I used Bep, Hatsushimo (using Hatsuzuki's anti-air equipment), Kiso, Abukuma, Ooi and KTKM. Bep and Hatsushimo hit, but of the CLT-squad only KTKM cut-in and she finished the boss.

Support shelling definitely helped, but it took 3 tries because of pre-boss damage.
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>>17015351
Thank you Kitachokami.
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>>17015351
The Lord and Saviour showed great merci upon her foes and let them see another day.
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>>17015351
TORRES
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>>17015376
You can't silence wrong opinions if you don't have an account.
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>>17015382
Yeah, but I ditched the drums long ago because getting to the boss and S ranking it was easy even on the off chance I got thrown south.
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What's the fastest way to get 10 CV(L) for the jet quest? 2-2? Orel?
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LSC
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>>17015398
5-4 IIRC
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What ships are you still farming for, lads?
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>>17015217

A chapter dump without Iowa showing up somehow? Guess they remembered Fubuki's in the title.
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>>17015487
I'm sure she'll be there next week.
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>>17015487
What's funny is that while Iowa will show up for just about anything, the German girls only ever show up when a new foreign ship does and only for a Fusou-class pagoda gag.
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>>17015476
KunaSHIRI
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>>17015476
Littorio. Will bust myself around for another day, maybe two, before just going down with the ship.
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>>17015487
Everyone loves USA because they are Justice!
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>>17015547
But i thought Justice was flat.
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>>17015487
Guess whoever writes for this/does the art really likes her.
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>>17015351
>Literally Messhit in argentina
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Is there some secret to clearing E-5 with a STF?

What/where should I be LBAS?

Getting my shit pushed in and I have no bauxite to run CTF
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Tsu keeps activating AACI without fail, what the fuck.
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>>17015587
Tsu doesn't have AACI.
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>>17015582
All LBAS to boss. Route and Boss support fully sparkled.
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>>17015600
>Route and Boss support fully sparkled.
Not him but I want to farm for the Pasta BBs before clearing on hard, do I still have to do that even on easy?
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>>17015609
No.
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>>17015609
No. Though route support may make things easier.
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>>17015558
It's all written and drawn by https://twitter.com/utakataclub
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>>17015582

Lots of buckets and punch hole. STF takes lots of damage without air superiority.
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Is there anyone who knows how to decode core.swf file in KC?
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>>17015582
Use torp sluts.
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>>17015217
Can't see it, looks just as bad.
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>>17015631
You get AS in every node even with STF.
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>>17015624

Gotta love how the characters are either flat or have huge breasts with their drawing style.
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>>17015122
Asked them in qq group and they seems to agree using whatever designation being recommended
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>>17015713
Asked who?
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>>17015557
USA built hundreds of Flat tops so you are correct.
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Got to E5 with this resources, any advice?
I also have epeenmedals and 9000 yen.
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>>17015727
You have a week left nothing to worry about
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>>17015727
>8 days
Just go and get more bauxite or something.
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>>17015727
E-5 only need 30k-50k.
>>17015755
Suijou doesn't need bauxite
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>>17015716
We really need more flight-deck chests.
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>>17015766
>>
Why does Yuugumo's voice sound childish?
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>>17015766
We just got a potato chip.
Though yeah, a some other non potato flat CV/L would be nice.
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>>17015776
>potato chip
heh
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>>17015773
It's sexy.
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>>17015776
I honestly already forgot about her.
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>>17015799
How? You're supposed to be leveling her and Gangut right now.
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>>17015814
How/where to level CVLs? I don't remember.
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>>17015814
I'm just using her as pvp flagship, not in a rush.
>inb4 using carriers in pvp
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>>17015821
Usually 5-4 but she's slow and if you use engines she's still really shit, so 3-2 is good.
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>>17015842
Tater bird can't equip Saiuns so either have fun with the chance of a red t or bring another carrier that can equip them to 3-2.
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>>17015856
Only a retard would bring a single carrier to 3-2 fatigue grinding.
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>>17015814
But Kamoi is the only one worth leveling.
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>>17015856
You take 4-5 carriers to 3-2.
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>>17015877
Kamoi is useless and doesn't even have stock equipment.
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>>17015877
Auxiliaries are so useless.
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>>17015877
While I do like Kamoi over those two by a long shot, that is absolutely false.
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I'm sorry Littorio.
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>Kamoi
>doesn't even say kamo
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>>17015913
It's fine, friend, you've sufferend enough. Now rest. She'll be in LSC soon enough.
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>>17015915
Kamo + Poi = Kamoi
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>>17015928
But can she dance like them?
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>>17015932
She isn't retard likes them
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>>17015928
Kamopoi
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>>17015939
At least have the decency to use proper English and punctuation if you are going to call someone a retard.
>>
死ねええゴキブリ
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>>17015957
'no'
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>>17015955
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>>17015997
Is she about to get adopted?
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>>17016014

She's about to get grinded for her skilled lookout then fed to someone else.
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>>17016014
No she is about to be mocked by the driver!
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>>17016014
She's going to be forcefed warm and bitter yogurt.
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>>17016057
Something something bitter
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>Farming for Hitomi
>get Akashi 2 times

For fuck's sake.
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>>17016057
But semen is not bitter.
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wtf i love potatoes now
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>>17016066
Who said anything about semen?
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>>17016076
>Shoukaku instead of Kaga
>Iku instead of Shioi
0/10 try again
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You're done with your dailies already, right TTKs?
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>>17016076
Needs Kaga and Shioi.
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>>17016057
She's going to drink some of chele.
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>>17016087
>>17016095
Who? I only see Akagi and Akagi 2.0.
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>>17015997
>>17016057
>>17016066
>>17016083
What a blast from the past.
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>>17016100
One defining trait of a potato kanmusu is a dark coloured hair. There are two ships there that lack such hair.
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>3rd run on Farming E-5 easy T node
I guess its for me to farm her sister.
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>>17016088
It's not time to be fast now.
Go do them by yourself if you can Questgirl.
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>>17016131
>he's not done with the event yet
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So are dive bombers targeted more than usual by Abyssal AA or is it just me? First node and the 21 slot Egusa is already down to 3.
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>>17016128
forgot the pic
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>>17016142
Get those stupid stars out of the way.
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>>17016156
Never.
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Please /jp/ magic, bring upon me the beloved sub Hitomi.
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>>17016163
Oh it's you kuugen.
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Hey /jp/, I've finally managed to reach E-5 Hard last dance. Used STF until now, heard CTF is best due to dive bomber damage and no troll sub node. All LBAS are set to attack.

I could set Kasumi to be AACI, but I have no holes to drill on her and give her BOFORs. Or I could set Hatsuzuki to carry one gun+radar and the Searchlight to increase chances she gets nuked during night battle instead of Nachi\the others.
What do you suggest? Anything else I can change while at it?
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>>17016177
Your air power is too weak and half of your planes will not survive.
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son of a bitch I spend an hour sparkle meming route support only for orange damage tsu to send me home anyway with a shelling crit.
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>>17016133
>secretary Yodo can't remember what we did last week
Where is the button to fire her?
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>>17016212
>Taiyou and Gangut still level 1
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>>17016216
Plenty of time to level them before next event.
Why are you such an annoying hag Yodo?
Still unmarried?
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>>17016229
>Still unmarried?
That was low.
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>>17016196
How much air power should I aim for, 540+?
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I feel like Gangut could have been popular if she wasn't drawn by Yadokari and had a design similar to this.
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>>17016268
Yup. The ancient DD hime design on an allied DD would've been very popular too.
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>first day: Tsu hits an average of 20
>second day: Tsu hits an average of 30
Is this some kind of sign that i should stop farming E-5 or what? I'm starting to lose ranks on some planes.
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fuck yes kiso I knew you were better than those potato fucking shits
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>>17016282
You never gave them a chance to begin with. You'd have cleared the map half a day ago if you had.
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>>17016235
500 is enough. Replace one of Kaga's torp bombers with a fighter. That plus the LBAS spam should be enough to grant you air supremacy at the boss node.
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>>17016268

Russian ships are doomed because all of them will be drawn by Yadkari.
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I didn't get kamoi or littorio but I don't even care. I hope the fat man chokes on a futomaki for making the new plane a last map hard only reward. I'm just going to do memedium next event no matter what the rewards are, if I can even manage that since nu kai will probably be in every transport map from now on.
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>>17016323
Haha fucking tosser.
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>>17016280
And now the veri first Tsu node wipes Kagas first slot. Wonderfull.
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>>17016319
>We will never get this Northern Goddess.
>Yadokari will only draw decent lolis at best.
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>>17016323
Thanks dude, your incompetence is always entertaining.
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>>17016323
Fuck off and die you trash kusa
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>>17016354
But Gangut dva doessn't really lok like a loli, and overall rather good (not the rigging though, for some reason).
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>>17016323
Please quit the game and save everyone some trouble. Including yourself.
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>>17016354
He'll probably fuck that up too since he's a shit artist.
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>>17016342
TSUUUUUUUUUU
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>>17016323
Wikia and reddit called. They want you back.
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>>17016412
Still not as good as she could have been if drawn by another Artist.
There is also the fact many would have preferred a Russian like this.
Also I don't know about anyone else but she comes across as discount Biscuit with a worse artist to me.
>>
equip setup for Bep? Not sure what cut-in to go for
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Did your Beaver save you this event?
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>>17016438
Double-attack
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>>17016430
I don't get her anatomy. are the giant metal ones on the bottom her arms? or the smaller metal one on her hip? are the blobby grey things her arms too or just part of her coat?
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>>17016439
I didn't even use her once.
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>>17016439
Nah
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>>17016438
DA.
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>>17016438
DA+flare
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>>17016439
She didn't get a chance to because both Escort Hime and Northern Water Hime died before she got a chance to attack.
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>>17016430
Don't compare the Abyssal god to some slightly above average loli artist. His ships are inferior, but not really bad (level of bad may vary) from a separate standpoint.

>>17016443
I think the metal thing on her right hip is her right arm and the left one is hidden under the living-coat. I'd say the two large hands are part of the coat-thing, like the "pets" of other Abyssals.
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>>17016430
It's a naked girl in a coat and funny hat. Not exactly the pinnacle of design either.
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>>17016354
>>17016430
I really like how she looks.
>>17016457
What's there is pretty good even if I'm not a huge fan of how lewd it is, she needs more clothes.
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>>17016448
no flare, other options for wildcard?
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>>17016457
I think the grotesque yet lewd cape is pretty neat, the girl is quite beautiful too.
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>>17016489
Radar for LoS + accuracy I guess, since 2 torps + searchlight should be on Kasumi.
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>>17016457
>naked girl in a coat and funny hat
that's 10/10 though
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>>17016430
Rigging should have look different, since she had this stupid turret layout. Instead she just got Bismarck's rigging.
Also her style looks too modern for such an ancient battleship.
That tall bridge or those belt guns could have helped.
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>>17016501
>since she had this stupid turret layout.
That turret layout was actually pretty common at the time.
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>>17016501
At least Yadokari tried to imitate the chimney with a pipe. If he was imitating anything.
No pagoda-like thing or inverted turret placement on the rigging leave very little hints as to the design of the actual ship.
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>>17016501
Well he got lazy and copied the spider rigging and its just awful. Not surprised though, if he can't draw the girls well, of course he couldn't come up with good riggings.
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>>17016510
But weren't they the last BB-class without superfiring turrets?
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>>17016540
>superfiring
What's that?
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>>17016549

Turrets that can fire over top of each other.
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>>17016501
>since she had this stupid turret layout. Instead she just got Bismarck's rigging.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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>>17016555
Oh that's what you meant by stupid turret layout, I thought you meant how there were two turrents between the main mast and the back.
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>>17016439
Did your Beaver save you this event?
no, she's on the scrap yard, Shiggy is the one who saved me this event.
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>>17016549
Have a front turret, then have a turret in a more elevated position behind so that you can still fire half your guns when charging.
It was slow to take because people feared the 2nd turret going off so near would damage the 1st, but it was proven to be safe.
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>joined right before event
>passed e-1 on easy
>lost all resources on boss stage in e-2 and now can't finish last kill
Should I keep trying to complete the event?
Only 8 days left and I've no bauxite.
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>>17016571
fleet and equipment setup?
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>>17016561
She can't save me if I purposely sink her.
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>>17016576
Yukikaze sucks though, never get to fire torpedoes, I rotate Yukikaze/Ayanami/Shigure (torps only on Yukikaze).
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Can i allow myself another day of farming E-5 if i'm losing ~20k fuel/ammo per day (2-3 full boss courses a day)?
I'm starting to get afraid of the pain in the ass LK may become if i go below 50k (paranoia).
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>>17016571

E2 is a pain in the ass but you probably can do it. Just spam expedition 6. E3 is easier than E2 but cost more resources.
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>>17016598
>Yukikaze sucks though, never get to fire torpedoes
Tell me these aren't midget subs.
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>>17016640
30k for LD is more than enough Roughly what I spent on all of E5 +
a tiny bit of post farm
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About to start the event, is 50k ammo enough for a somewhat newfag player?
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>>17016562
It's actually kind of hilarious just how very odd Gangut is in comparison to every other BB in the game.
Even Kongou, which was commissioned one year earlier, was more a more up to date design in shipbuilding.
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>>17016672
No, usual ones.
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>>17016677
For easy/medium, probably.
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>>17016677
Should be okay for easy with a bit of farming.
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>>17016677
It's enough la
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>>17016687
What map should I save Kaga on?
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>>17016706
She's the best suited for E2.
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>>17016672
>Yukikaze
>midget subs

If only.
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>>17016685
That's weird. I mean, you can't expect a 100% TCI rate, but she's pretty reliable.

CA hime armor rolls are a bitch. I used a FBB and a CLT for the last kill, with Akagi as fighter mule. Do you have a Kiso?
>>
>>17016685
>>17016715
It's probably because he's using no night battle equipment such as searchlights.
>>
What's the deciding factor for you to marry a shipgirl?
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>>17016727
Stats
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>>17016727
I have to like her, and she has to do something to deserve it.

My Abukuma TCI'd the boss, killing her despite having 26 luck, so she got a ring
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>>17016598
Getting Haguro and Myoukou to their first remodel and modernizing them would help a lot and you're not far off, so so do that. Put carriers at the bottom, you're giving the enemy two free attacks when nightbattle starts.
Are you even getting AS with those planes? Do you even know what AS is?
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>>17016715
I have 2CLTs (Ooi and Kitakami), but when I replace second CV with FBB as recommended, my LoS drops too much and I get rerouted. I don't think I'll have enought firepower if I just replace CA with CLT.
>>17016743
Mostly, I do. Thanks for advice.
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>>17016727
love
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>>17016681
When Kongou was built, she had the most advanced battlecruiser design in the world inspired by all the developments until then. Also the first ship to be equipped with 35.6cm cannons after much insistence.
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>>17016727
If I like her. Looks, personality and a distant third being her abilities/stats.
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>>17016782
>looks are more important than personality

Fuck you.
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>>17016785
Well, how else is she gonna catch my eye at first?
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>>17016727
Eyeglasses
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>>17016727

Affection + stats. You need both. Missing either one will make you regret your decision.
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>>17016727
Cute voice and nice personality.
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>>17016727
Only cute DDs allowed.
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>>17016815
Abukuma is your waifu of choice i see.
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>>17016821
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>>17016727
Personality.
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>>17016828
She'd be one if I had her in my fleet, yes.
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>>17016808
I married Houshou and don't regret it.
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>>17016727
When they reach level 99. They've worked hard and it would be criminal to not let them keep leveling up.
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>>17016727
Is she English? Instant scrap.
Did she get sunk by the English? Instant marry.
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>>17016727
None, they're just weapons and whores.
>>
Hi /jp/, how hard is E3 Medium and E4 Hard?
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>>17016863

Haguro?
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>>17016895
Both easy as hell, unless you truly cannot beat them on hard you should do them on hard.
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>>17016900
Already married.
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>>17016863
>Zarafags
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>>17016895
E-4 hard is okay if you have good ships.
E-3 medium is just a pain in the ass overall. May take some time but not really hard, especially if you manage the debuff.
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>>17016930
I had the exact opposite, I absolutely floored E3 medium, even with only 1 CAV, and then struglled a ton with E4 hard.
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>>17016936
Why didn't you do E-3 on Hard if it was that easy to you?
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>>17016863
So, Bismarck, Zara, Pola, Haguro, Kuma, and Takao?
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>>17016936
You just need to damecon your sub for LK if you have problems.
Even just LBAS can pretty much kill half of the enemies you meet there and carriers shouldn't have problems dealing with everything elase. There is a small probability that your CAV may screw up her shots, but nothing out of the usual.
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>>17016951
Yep, they're my beloved wives along with Iowa, Sara, Zep, Prinz, Choukai, and Akizuki.
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>>17016943
Seeing as I had to limit only one CAV (while everyone at the time recommended two, and I hadn't thought of an AV) I thought it was best to do it on medium. And didn't feel that I had the ressources to do the whole thing again, hoping the step up wasn't massive.

I only went for E4 hard precisely because I was still coming off the high of stomping E3 medium.
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>>17016951

And Libeccio.
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>>17016968
>There is a small probability that your CAV may screw up her shots, but nothing out of the usual.
Yeah that happened an absolute ton, just bad luck really since in the end I got the kill with no changes.
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>>17016978
My fleet had absolutely terrible shelling accuracy. Only opening/lbas airstrikes and yasen were consistent in dealing good damage. Shelling felt like 50/50.
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>>17016978
>>17016990
This is why you sparkle.
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I can't even beat E1, should I kill myself. I'm using Death Usagi's fleet.
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>>17017130
Why is Yamato so ugly?
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>>17017150
Because she's like your mom.
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>>17016598
your planes are set up wrong. don't put bombers in slots smaller than 16. if yukikaze isn't working you can try putting her in flagship position.

>>17016761
put a saiun in akagi's last slot. you can also try replacing one of the cruisers with a battleship. you have to go through an extra sub node, but it gives you a lot more power.
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>>17017130
Why is Yamato so cute?
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>>17017150
>>17017162

Why is Yamato so dull?
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>>17017130
PADS
A
D
S
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>>17016727

Cuteness and love.
>>
Am I the only one who thinks that Kamois looks like an Adult Chaika?
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>>17017262
I think she looks more like Raphiel from Gabriel Dropout.
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What's the personality of the new Russian BB?
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I now understand why Shigure is hated
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>>17017284
>taking this long to realize it
>50 morale instead of 85
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>>17017294
I don't want to sparkle everyone just to have her get into taiha again and hold everyone back
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>>17017284
I had bad memories when I used Shigure during Summer 2015, she never did anything and just ate crits for breakfast. I've never used her ever since until decisive transport fleet with TCI set-up is a must.
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>>17015267
KAMO KAMO
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>>17017130
A shit.
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>>17017284
What retard fleet even is this?
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>>17017284
>>17017304
>50 morale
>Doesn't want to sparkle
>Blaming his ships for getting red
>Confirmed kuso
then go kuso mode, if you're lazy.
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>>17017353
Sparkling never made a difference for me
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>>17017355
Send LBAS.
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>>17017380
>>
>>17015877
>>17015905

Is there a reason I should stop grinding for Maruyu/Amagi in E-2 and start searching for Kamoi instead?
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>>17017391
Are they cheveroned?
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>>17017391
Why are you using fighters against no planes?
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>>17016727
Love for the girl combined with love for the ship.
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>>17017415
I don't know why there would be, aside from having her in collection.
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what is the best fleet setup for e-2 maruyu farming? all fast 2 carriers and 0 destroyers?
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What went wrong?
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>>17017415
Kamoi is the best girl this event. You are missing out.
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>>17017467
Does GBF have game mechanics as cancerous as fatigue, LBAS, and debuffs?
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>>17017470
I wished she dropped a mention of the ship yard she was built at and why she was made to begin with, I feel Tanaka dropped the ball in that department, again.
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>>17017467
I don't see anything.

Also why does that GBF chick look like she's drawn by Shibafu? Or do we have more Irishmen as artists now?
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>>17017470
Admiral poaching hussy!
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>>17017478
I dunno but I think it has a gatcha summon like FGO.
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>>17017470
What's her personality like?
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>>17017504
https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/f/f0/Kamoi-04.ogg
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>>17017504
Token Ainu.
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>>17017470
What's the best way to farm Kamoi post-boss, Node V or Node W?
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>>17017550
But she's not even Ainu
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>>17017543
Damn, I want her now. Is E3 TP or Boss better to farm her?
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>>17017478
imagine if everything but fubuki class was real money gacha only and all equipment was .01% drops from boss nodes.
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>>17017564
I know.
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>>17017543
I don't get it.
Did I just die or something?
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>>17017563
Post your favorite IM@S song, and I'll answer it.
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>>17017586
No.
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>>17017586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntg9vHXuZW4
this one is mine so please answer my question too
>>17017464
I want to finish the 50 transport quest there.
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>>17017583
What?
Your waifu never wake you up before?
>>
>>17017504
Kind titty girl of the season.
>>
Why does CA Hime squeal like that?
>>
>>17017596
That's actually pretty good. Maybe you should try 1BB 2CV 3CA(V) or 1BB 2CV Abukuma 2CLT or 3CLT - Abubear
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>>17017621
You didn't lubed good enough
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>>17017464

Seems like any 2 CL 2 CV(L) 2 CA(V) will work.

I use the LBAS on B and D to help the fleet along, but other than that I don't consider it too important as I have plenty of level <30ish cruisers that can rotate out for leveling.
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>>17017464
I used two throw away CAs
Two CLs that can do pre-emptive asw
2 CVLs

LBAS full of bombers and attack D node.
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>>17017611
No, I don't like to fall asleep in front of my waifu.
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>>17017478
The gacha sucks to deal with, but the GBF events don't usually make you want to kill yourself. GBF has nothing that makes me want to throw myself off a cliff like sparkling does.
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>>17017682
Gundam Build Fighters has a mobage?
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>>17017682
I guess you haven't tried making a dark pool.
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>>17017353
Who needs sparkling? Besides those guys.
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>>17017704
Dark is alright to be honest. Takes long to grind for but with pendants and all it's fine.

At least it's not as bad as making a light pool.
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>>17017590
i forget the context of this cut
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>>17017682
it's called grindblue for a reason
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>>17017715
>needing cut-ins and debuff for a map as easy as E-3
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>>17017785
Grinding doesn't bother me.
I've never experienced that feeling when one of your girl chokes and you're looking at two hours of grinding as a result of said choking in granblue.
I'd say that kancolle has higher highs and lower lows than most of the other similar games out there.
>>
Nu Kai elite was a mistake. Whose great idea was it?
>>
>>17017795
>one of your girl chokes and you're looking at two hours of grinding as a result of said choking
You haven't hit end game yet. These events have been pissed easy for veterans. The rage part come from farming for drop only girls and not from clearing the events.
>>
>>17017810
>These events have been pissed easy for veterans. The rage part come from farming for drop only girls and not from clearing the events.

Is this still about Granblue because it sounds exactly like KanColle right now.
>>
>>17017810
I don't rage while farming drops until I hit the 200+ run point. That hasn't happened to me since Graf.
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>>17017850
i still have ptsd from that fall
>>
Was Iowa's event the last hard event?
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Is using my best CAs for E-3 and the Tones for E-4 fine? Or should it be the other way around?
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>>17017924
CAs can't use WG.
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>>17017906
Praying for dive bomber crits doesn't make it hard.
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>>17017934

You'll be spending time farming them anyway. Last kill is ridiculous.
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halp

Already debuffed the boss, but cant reach her (still chipping).
No. I dont have any ducks.
Ise and Fusou because low ammo consumption.
Much of my planes are fucked (were taken down) and I dont want to train them anymore because resources.
Should I replace Bongos class with DDs? should I just be patient? its my comp/eqp enough?
Please dont bully
Of course E5H. I want my first memedal. Any suggestions?
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>>17017934
They are pretty nice, but probably this event isn't the best one to farm them.
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>>17017948
>Ise and Fusou because low ammo consumption.

Then get rid of them because you have 100k.
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>>17017948
>ise & kusou class
>monkeys for escort fleet
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>>17017957
Oh yeah and forgot to quote >>17017850
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>>17017948
You look like you need a lot of help

Replace BBs with CLTs
Turbines are useless
Your planes are going to get killed.
Strong BBs in main fleet.
>>
>>17017948
If I had that compo and Spring 2014 tier equipment, I'm literally going to kill myself. That's how bad it is.
>>
>>17017948
I don't even know where to start, what the fuck is with all the engines?
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>>17017788
Says the guy who needed a night plane.
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>>17017964
k ty.
Is just that I replaced CLTs with BBs because CLT make jack shit damage to that new CVL Nu class.
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>>17017948
Dude, you seriously wants to get a epeen medal with this?
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>>17017969
Why the fuck would you not bring a night plane?
>>
>>17017981
To show off not needing one.
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>>17017968
Evasion placebo
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>>17017948
You have 130k baux. Just copy this and use support. Who the fuck even retrain their planes after every sortie? Do people actually do this? Is it really that big of a deal to go with all >> planes? Green planes will never lose >> and they are the one providing you with huge air power bonus.
>>
>>17017999
I had to re-chevron planes for last dance because they weren't doing shit during bombing.
>>
>>17017948
I don't know what to laugh at more, all those boilers, the use of bombers, or the equipment setups.
>>
Hitomi is a lie.
>>
What's the fastest way to level Akitsushima to 35? I need to get her large boat for LBAS.
>>
>>17018015
6-4.
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>>17017999
Sure man, just let me use my iowa, bismarck and of course my wife akizuki
Thank you too. This gives me another perspective.
>>17018009
I'll get rid of boilers because now I know that they dont work as good as I thought.
And bombers because they have bonus attack in the last node.
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>>17018010
You farming for her is a lie.
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>>17018010
>2 Fujinami
>2 Harusame
>1 Takanami
>1 Okinami
>1 Akashi
>Not any sign of Hitomi

I want to give up.
>>
>>17018026
>And bombers because they have bonus attack in the last node.
If you go with STF you don't bring bombers you fucking retard. All that'll happen is you won't be able to get AS.
>>
>>17018026
Your hotels are stronger than Iowa and Bismarck. You don't need Akiduki when you have Maya. Any DD from the 5th fleet will do.
>>
What map do you have to save Abubear for?
>>
>>17018010

The trick was to wait until the last day of the past event to get her. Do the same now, wait until the last day to farm E1.
>>
>>17018078
E-3
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>>17017934
>near best in slot FBBs that will never have routing so they're free to lock anywhere
Yes.
>>
Hello, where is Kamoi
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>>17017934
Not worth it if you already have Iowa, Biscuit and 1max 90mm.
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>>17018108
In my fleet.
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>>17018108
In all your resurouces.
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>>17017948
There's so much wrong here so I'll just try pointing out the most obvious ones.

No way you have enough airpower with only 3 fighters. 6 or 7 should be good, learn to use http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
Ro.44 is a seaplane fighter so it doesn't enable artillery spotting and Fusou will only do single attacks.
All BBs should be using 2 main guns, plane, AP shell. If you don't have enough AP shells, craft them.
Use better BBs than Fusou or Ise, you have more than enough resources and you're already using fucking Musashi.
Replace the Kongous in the escort fleet with Kiso/Kitakami/Ooi/Nachi.
That seaplane on Maya is pointless if you're not using a main gun on her.
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>>17017323
>5 enemies
Fuck you.
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>i literally can't stop going taiha: a guide by ooi
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>>17018196
It's time to marry her.
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>>17017948
Replace monkeys with CLTs and put the monkeys in the main fleet. Take out Ise and Fusou. Replace their engines with AP shells.

Also just go with all dive bombers. Take out the saiun if you can.

For Kasumi give TCI + searchlight/lookout, put her as flagship, and for Bep give DA + flare.
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How do I stop Tsu from killing my fairies?
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>>17018240
you pray.

One time a Tsu killed all 3 slots of >> LBAS bombers when i had only sent it to the node for one pass.
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Yodo = Kuma > Yasen = Melon > Whogara > Fatty > Chuuni
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fugg I need to buy slots to keep going, but I can't remember my paypall login and the fucking recovery wants to call a phone number I don't have anymore. what the hell am I supposed to do now?
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>>17018367
Buy webmoney.
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>>17018374
>Kai
She's not even Kai, dumbass.
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>>17018381
nice
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>>17018381
Really makes you think.
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>>17018372
how do I do that? my card always gets frozen when I try to buy anything from another country and it's the middle of the night so I can't call my bank until morning.
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>>17018389
>my card always gets frozen when I try to buy anything from another country
Then tell them to knock it off and unlock international purchases you fucking retard.
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>>17018367
Then create another account and wait for the confirmation to come? Are you retarded?
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>>17018400
even if I wanted to I can't do it at 1am. I tried just creating another paypall account, but the fucking website keeps directing me to the .jp site and I can't understand any of the shit.
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>>17018406
screencap?
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for e5, will bep also count as part of historical fleet, or is only 5th fleet ships?
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>>17018454
Read the wiki.
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Does anyone have problems with poi eating up a huge amount of RAM and slowly increasing even on idle?
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>>17018454
Bep isnt historical, but she has a 1.5x bonus against bosses, so she's worth bringing still
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>>17018473
Are you on Mac or Linux or something?
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>>17018495
No.
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Is it autism?
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>>17018501
If anything you should applaud his heroism.
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/51273857.html
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>>17018501

I don't know what that is, but it scares me.
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>>17018501
he actually clear it with Akashi fleet
FKING MADMAN
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>>17018501
How many Akashi and Ooyodo does he have?
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>>17018545
Look at >>17018511
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What did you get Houshou for mother's day?
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>>17018570
A letter to remind her about her children dying one by one.
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>>17018570
I plan on making her a true mother.
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>>17018473
It's just Chromium being a resource hog, as usual.
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>>17018570
I scrapped her.
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How do you S rank 6-4 post clear, when all enemy nodes stay in final form?
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>>17018626
Same way you S ranked last dance.
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>>17018631
I didn't.
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Calm down.
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>>17018626
The difference is mostly just different fodder DDs.
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>>17018654
What's wrong with those people? It's like when I hear that somebody threw their controller while playing dark souls. What the fuck? How can you even be this mad? Never understood that.
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>>17018654
There are people still playing this game who have not accepted RNG as their god?
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>>17018626
This one is a little old because Kyoufuu didn't exist yet, but it's pretty much the same fleet I used for that quarterly quest.
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>>17018626
What do you mean? Shit is easy to clear now when you can bomb it to oblivion using named bombers.
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>>17018664
>Rage Quitting
>A conditon in which gamers, through steady provoking, simply cannot take being killed (cheaply or otherwise) anymore and leave a online game game mid-match.
>Warning signs preceding this action include: The throwing of said gamers controller, Rampant punching of a sofa/love seat, Yelling at family members/roommates, Letting loose a stream of expletives and complaining over in-game chat
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>>17018678
>all those +9 guns
Anon pls
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>>17018450
nevermind I got it to show in english somehow. I don't even understand how going straight to the main site could redirect me to the wrong language though.
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>>17018678
Thanks for the comp, will try it.
>>17018683
Getting to the boss can take a while, and when your LBAS decide to shit themselves it's not funny.
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>>17018626
Do you have kamo?
Do you have rocket?
See >>17017323, even in Red Tea, this fleet is already super overkill.
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>>17018712
Yeah, now if only I can meet 5 enemies at the boss node.

I've been there over 100 times and got a 6 enemy fleet every single time.
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>>17018511
This fag is putting all the people who complain while using elites to shame with literal shit fleets.
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>>17018719
If you failed over 100 times you'd even fail with only 4 enemies.
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Does the fleet change at all for E5H post clear grind? I was using kidou with route support and it worked perfectly. Down to 23k bauxite and still need Roma.
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>>17018654
High level autism.
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>>17018712
Yes, I have Kamo and rockets, guess it's just a keep trying until I S rank it.
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>>17018731
AEHIKOT
Not sure if easier or not. You can check wikiwki for branching rules.
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>>17018727
I have no reason to complain, since everyone is facing the exact same event map, with the same enemies, the same bugs, and so on.

If a map throws shit at me, then so be it. The vast majority of people here who complained used utterly suboptimal fleets anyway; you can't really say they used 'elites' other than maybe Abukuma.

>>17018727
Most of those 100+ times were in the pre-LBAS days. I only got 2 kills during those times. And I don't believe that you got any better chance of meeting a 5 enemy fleet after LBAS was implemented than before.

LBAS has made it much easier; I can now S rank 6-4 much more easily.
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>>17018745
Second one meant for >>17018728
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>>17018744

H has nuclear subs and K has BB hime but no air power. This sounds cheaper for bauxite, but route support can't help with anti sub. I assume the boss resets to pre last kill?
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>>17018770
You can copy futaba fleet.
Do note that gangut can dish out even more damage than useless hotels.
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>>17018780

Are dbs in the lbas really more effective than bombers? I guess they get the 1.5x multiplier.
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>>17018780
is there a fleet for first phase
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this is a good fleet for maruyu farming in case anyone was still wondering
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>he doesn't have 10 meme medals
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>>17018819
LSC is better.
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>>17018827
lsc doesn't cost negative resources
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>>17018819

Which map are you referring to?
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>>17018870
e-2
you get 150 fuel and ammo back from the resource node so you can gain resources while you farm.
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>>17015715
Actually, just look at https://github.com/poooi/poi/issues/1448
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Who else demoted TTK here? Did the first 6 or so events on hard but now I just take it easy and do them on easy for the girls. I'm not even a TTK anymore just a wannabe harem MC.
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>>17018948
Disgusting.
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>>17018948
Scum.
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>>17018948
If you don't play hard and just do it for girls, you should at least compensate it with their levels. It means if you don't have at least 12 pages of level 99 girls, you should neck yourself.
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>>17018933
>Also, people on 4chan seems inclined toward the usage of DE
>I would really never use the people of 4chan as a basis to deciding matters, especially since they don't really know anything about history
Why are they dissing us?
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>>17018964
Why are we dissing them?
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>>17018964
false flag
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>>17018952
>>17018954
I don't know if anyone even remembers but I've accidentally sunked Junyou, and Hiyou. I didn't screencap them but I made a shitty drawing of Hiyou afterwards.

>>17018955
I have 17 pages total not sure how many are lv 99.
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Is resetting really the best way to farm pastas?
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>>17018948
>do a few events on easy/normal because started playing recently
>miss out on all those neat hard rewards
>finally finish an event on hard
>all the hard rewards are garbage

Really makes you think
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>>17018968
Here it is, Spring 2015 event
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>>17018976
Fuck, I remember seeing it on some event losses collage.
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>>17018976
>>17018968
You managed to disgust me even more. Good job.
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>>17018970
The satisfaction of hard mode was nice, best victory faps ever. It just took a long time and the route opening and debuff mechanics got too annoying. Had no idea jets came out too.
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>>17018948
Disappointing. This event is really easy.

>>17018964
So they don't want DE just because we do?
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Remind me why DE is a good choice for the Kaiboukan.

- The new ships can not effectively replace DDs in most of the expedition and map branching rules.

- The WW2 Kaiboukans were built with the the intention of settling fishing disputes with the USSR instead of being a full fledged warship.

- As such, these Kaiboukans lacked the armament to be as effective in combat as standard Destroyers. They also lacked torpedo capabilities, in which the IJN does not consider ships without torpedo capabilities as Destroyers.

- The USN DE are subjected to the London Naval Treaty specifications; having a displacement over 2000 tons, any gun above 155cm in caliber, more than 4 guns above 76mm in caliber, the ability to launch torpedoes and a speed of 20 knots. The IJN WW2 Kaiboukans are generally under 2000 tons in displacement and they lack torpedo capabilities, which means they do not fit into the above DE specifications.

- The in-game shipcards says "Escort", not any other class/designation. "Escort" is not the same as "Destroyer Escort".

- The NHHC has advised that the new ships introduced this events are Escorts. They have also provide this as a [reading source](http://www.combinedfleet.com/Kaibokan.htm)

- In the above points, we have specifically used the term "WW2 Kaiboukans" because between 1898 to 1931, the Japanese definition of Kaiboukans are simply as follows: Class 1, over 7000 tons; Class 2, 3500-7500 tons; Class 3; under 3500 tons. Only from 1942 onward, the Japanese changed their definition of Kaiboukans to become "small ships with anti-submarine capabilities" (although the old definition was scrapped entirely in 1931). This is a point of concern as we are seeing the devs starting to introduce WW1 ships like Warspite and Gangut, and this trend is likely to continue. If the devs ever introduce the old Kaiboukans, it would no way fit into the description of a Destroyer, let alone a Destroyer Escort.

- Supporting DE is the same as supporting CVB. It's not historically accurate and it will bring problems to the future when other escort ships appear in this game and they are definetly not DE but escorts.
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>>17019001
I'm calling them E.
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>>17019001
> when other escort ships appear in this game and they are definetly not DE but escorts.
Then we'll call those EE or something. Who cares? This argument reeks of autism.
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>>17018964

>they don't really know anything about history

I would feel insulted if it wasn't for the fact that they're retarded instead of autistic.
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Is there a low-baux way of levelling CAs?
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>>17019025
4-1?
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>>17019025
3-3, 4 CA 2 CV.
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>>17019025
2-5
4-2
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>>17019032
>>17019031
>>17019029
Thanks. I'll try 5-2A as well.
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>>17019001
Half of these things are about DDs not DEs.
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If they are coastal defense ship, why don't we just abbv. them to CD?
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>>17019051
same way to dont call CVs ACs
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>>17019058

AC is already taken by assault carriers that's why.
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>>17019001
I'm just gonna call them "Very CP boats".
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How about VN?
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>>17019097
CPB is pretty good designation.
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>>17019001
>Remind me why DE is a good choice for the Kaiboukan.

It isn't, but it sure sounds less retarded than PF which is just as wrong >inb4 muh 70 year old outdated document. And until a few days ago all the wikiashitters used it too.
I'm just not going to use a code for them at all and avoid all this retarded autism like I do with armored CVs.
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>>17019051
All codes start with C are supposed to be cruiser ..
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>>17019130

How about corvette?
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>>17019130
>Cruiser Voler

>>17019126
It wasn't outdated at the time of the war.

>>17019146
IIRC it was K then later on FS.
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>>17018933
>They also have provided us this source, which lists them all as Escorts,
One of the things DE stood for was plain "Escort." (The others included the obvious destroyer escort, and ocean escort) http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_ships_list.php

The term "destroyer escort" also has the advantage of being self-explanatory to anyone who doesn't know any history or Japanese.

>>17019001
DE's do not effectively replace DD's. That's why they're not called DDE's.

WW2 Kaibokans were built with this intent:
>By 1943, increasing losses of merchant shipping caused the IJN to reorder its priorities. Beginning in January 1944 over 30 modified Type B's, known as the UKURU-class, were laid down. The heavy toll exacted by American submarines on the Combined Fleet's East Indies oil supply further caused the IJN to lose some of its hubris, so in 1943 it was decided to design a simplified version of the Type B.
>http://www.combinedfleet.com/Kaibokan.htm

DE's lack the armament of standard destroyers. I'm sure you'll reject wikipedia as a source, but I'm quoting it to specify the claim:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer_escort
>A destroyer escort needed only to be able to maneuver relative to a slow convoy (which in World War II would travel at 10 to 12 knots (19 to 22 km/h)), and be able to defend against aircraft and detect, pursue and attack submarines.
Now for examples: USS Evarts DE-5 had 3 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal dual purpose guns (3×1). A Fletcher class destroyer had 5 × single 5 inch (127 mm)/38 caliber guns.

USS Evarts DE-5 had a displacement of between 1140 long tons standard and 1450 t full load. You did not post DE specifications. You posted incorerent nonsense, since a 155cm gun is more than three times larger than Yamato's main guns. You said 155, not 15.5, and besides, 15.5 is cruiser territory anyway.

Escort is the same as DE according to the link I posted above. The NHHC is correct in calling them Escorts, as is combinedfleet.com. This is irrelevant because we were never debating about whether they're escorts; we're debating about how to abbreviate Escort.

WWI kaiboukans obviously wouldn't have the same mechanics and routing as Shimushu-class ships in KanColle. That means they'd need a different abbreviation anyway. If you're trying to say you want to shoehorn a 7000 ton WWI ship into EE or KB, that's retarded and it has no business being put in the same category as my cute little Kuna.

>CVB
Fuck off, you shits are the same people who pushed CVB and you're pushing your special snowflake alternatives now for the same reasons you pushed CVB bullshit. You want to get attention and go on power trips by making up bullshit terms and starting fights over them. DE is historically accurate and fits potential future escorts to the point where even PF shitters using their wartime intelligence document's estimates admitted the later classes were DE's. "Escort" is what DE referred to. The list of garbage talking about DD's and 155cm guns I just replied to only proves how this sudden anti-DE crusade is the work of trolls.
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So what IF they added some American DE?
What would the retards call it and why the Kaibokans would not be in same category?
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>>17019155
Don't quote, don't reply, let him rot.
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>>17018964
They barely know anything seeing as they want to create their own original designation.
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>>17019194
I want to cum on Yodo's glasses.
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>>17019155
Don't do autism kids.
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>>17019199
Get in line.
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>>17019155
So the only reason they don't use DE is because MAYBE the devs will add a new type of escort? We don't even have any implication they will.
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>>17019179
Given American DEs are usually translated into Japanese as something like 護衛駆逐艦 I would be surprised if they are classified kaibokan in game.
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>>17019220

Just DE1 and DE2 and all problem will be solved by then.
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>>17018964
That guy in particular has his head way up his own ass.
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>>17019194
>they want to create their own original designation
Disregarding any historical authenticity. Which fuhrer proofs that they're not only retarded and autistic, but also, very hypocritical.
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>>17019226
>>17019220
Just do it like how we differentiate BB, BB, fast BB, etc. I don't get the sperging at all, we just need an easy-to-remember and concise designation, that's why we use the USN hull classifications in the first place.
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>>17019230

>Which fuhrer proofs
>führer
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Anyone has the full list of USN classification? I am lazy to search online.
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>>17019226
FF would work as a DE2 because DE got folded into the broader category of FF in the 70's. The game is likely to just toss them in with kaibokan anyway, since it likes to use broad categories.
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>>17019252
Sorry, kamerade, my english is not always perfect.
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>>17019255
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hull_classifications
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>>17019155
I only see unintelligible nonsense being spouted from a moron who is in a denial that DE is in fact wrong.

Have you even bothered to check the sources that is provided?
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>>17018933
So what is this autist going to do when Tanaka adds american destroyer escorts or bong corvettes or some other tin can and also labels them as Escorts because there is no reason to add yet another class of ships?

>>17019255
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_symbol

>DDE: Escort Destroyer, a Destroyer (DD) converted for antisubmarine warfare - category abolished 1962.
>PF: Patrol Frigate (retired)
>DE: Destroyer Escort (World War II, later became Ocean escort)
>DE: Ocean escort (abolished 30 June 1975)
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>>17019275
>>17019291

>DE: Destroyer Escort (World War II, later became Ocean Escort)
>Ocean Escort

Aren't that enough for us to use DE for Kaiboukan? It is literally translated as "Ocean defense vessel" and the English word on the card is "Escort".
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>>17019291
Perhaps Tanaka would label other type or ships as escort, but it would be unlikely for him to label any other type of ships from foreign navy as Kaibokan.

>>17019305
Ocean Escort is post-wwii classification
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>>17019309

So what if it is post WW2? Do you think they will add some destroyer escort in the future? Did the Japanese even have destroyer escort in the first place?
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>>17019189
>>17019200
If you don't, they'll rot the whole community. You sure you want that to happen?

Best to create a wikia account with a dummy email account or something and talk it out with them, because they sure as hell won't be doing it here.
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>>17019325
all those DEs are translated as escort destroyer in Japanese
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>>17019333

And those DE we are getting this time around has the word "Escort" written on them. Your point is?
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>>17019305
Won't work. 航洋護衛艦 is used for Ocean Escort.

>>17019333
>DEs and DDEs will be the same thing
Oh god no.
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>>17019155
>DE's do not effectively replace DD's. That's why they're not called DDE's.
DE are in fact destroyers, unless you try to argue that DD (Fleet destroyers) are the only destroyers that exists.


>WW2 Kaibokans were built with this intent:
>By 1943, increasing losses of merchant shipping caused the IJN to reorder its priorities. Beginning in January 1944 over 30 modified Type B's, known as the UKURU-class, were laid down. The heavy toll exacted by American submarines on the Combined Fleet's East Indies oil supply further caused the IJN to lose some of its hubris, so in 1943 it was decided to design a simplified version of the Type B.
>http://www.combinedfleet.com/Kaibokan.htm

The Shimushu is built in 1939 and was never intended to be escorts. They were meant to be used to settle fishing disputes. The case you described happened in 1943, you dare to argue that they knew in 1939 that they would have to use them as fleet escorts, they're no fucking prophets.

>USS Evarts DE-5 had 3 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal dual purpose guns (3×1). A Fletcher class destroyer had 5 × single 5 inch (127 mm)/38 caliber guns.

Out of the 5 USN DEs, Evart-class is the only one who has no torpedo capabilities, but they can be outfitted with one perfectly fine, they're successor of the Buckley-class after all. Meanwhile, NONE of the Kaiboukan that is listed have torpedo capabilities.

>USS Evarts DE-5 had a displacement of between 1140 long tons standard and 1450 t full load. You did not post DE specifications. You posted incorerent nonsense, since a 155cm gun is more than three times larger than Yamato's main guns. You said 155, not 15.5, and besides, 15.5 is cruiser territory anyway.

Whether the 155cm was a typo or not is irrelevant, common sense tells us that its either 155mm or 15.5cm. Also, the Evart class can go faster than 20 knots, thats undeniable.

>Fuck off, you shits are the same people who pushed CVB and you're pushing your special snowflake alternatives now for the same reasons you pushed CVB bullshit.

Regardless, it is us all who decided in the first place to use CVB and yet, here we are repeating history again. You see, we can flip them off and run into this fucking mess again, or you pick the historically accurate one which also solves many other problems and we'll have no further issue. We can blame on them for all we care, but in the end, it is us as the community who tends to end up fucking ourselves.
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Just use DE for now, and situation calls for it, just split the classification into DE1 and DE2 or DE and DDE.
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Why don't we allow the viewer multiple choices for each classification which has multiple potential abbreviations?

Better still, why don't we just discard the use of abbreviations altogether?
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Why is Shimushu so cute?
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Do you think support expeditions is a bad game mechanic?
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>>17019381
The sparkling part of it is the only problem I have with it.
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>>17019366
>discard abbreviation
would need to type tons more characters in explaining fleet composition.

>multiple choice
I believe you can do so in most viewers by editing their translation file
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>>17019381
It's a dice roll on top of a lot of other dice rolls. Doesn't really matter.
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>>17019325
>Did the Japanese even have destroyer escort in the first place?
Matsu-class and the succeeding subclasses.
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>>17019396
Those are closer to escort destroyers.
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>>17019354
>DE1
>DE2
That looks shitty though.

If they feel like being that autistic, they can use PF for japanese escorts and DE for the inevitable american escorts, or >>17019366.

IMO calling those ships Destroyer Escorts makes a bit more sense in game as those ships are labelled "Escort" and nobody ever argues with what the card text displays, if Tanaka wanted those to be called Patrol Frigates, the card text would have displayed "Frigate". DE is also more future proof when non-japanese escort ships and actual Destroyer Escorts arrive, since those will most likely be also labeled "Escort" as well. Hypothetically, of course, but Tanaka would have to be stupid to add yet another escort designation when all of them are expedition fodder anyway.
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>>17019396
They do, but they are treated as DDs in the IJN. There is no such thing as DE, if they are armed with torpedoes, they are a DD.
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>>17019381
Route support is retarded because with all ships sparkled it can still fail to show up when it matters and there's nothing you can do about it, boss support is fine since it only needs the flagship.
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>>17019402

This argument sounds convincing, I support the use of DE. PF makes not sense as Tanaka himself wanted them to be called escorts.
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>>17019408
Sparkling flagship for route support would be sufficient in most cases...
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>>17019381
It's a bad game mechanic when it fails to show up and yet you're expected to pay the bill, including ammunition.
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>>17019415
It doesnt sound all too convincing to me though.
Escort can mean DE, PF or even Kaiboukan, which it is. Escort is a category of ships which are used for escort duties, it does not imply Destroyer Escort.
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>>17019381
Excess cost for very little, if any, return when used without sparkles just shows how Tanaka didn't want people to actually expect any results/outcomes when using it. Like other rng things in the game, but with an extra reliance on sparkles.
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>>17019348
I am arguing that the term "destroyer" (when used alone and without qualifications) means DD specifically. It could be used a shorthand for things like DDG as well, which is a specialized type of destroyer.

>The Shimushu is built in 1939 and was never intended to be escorts. They were meant to be used to settle fishing disputes.
According to what? Provide evidence.
Combined Fleet also says
>The SHIMUSHU class of escorts was ordered in 1937. They were capable of functioning either as escorts or minesweepers.
Wikipedia says
>The Japanese called these ships Kaibōkan, "ocean defence ships", (Kai = sea, ocean, Bo = defence, Kan = ship), to denote a multi-purpose vessel. They were initially intended for patrol and fishery protection, minesweeping and as convoy escorts.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_escort_Shimushu

>Out of the 5 USN DEs, Evart-class is the only one who has no torpedo capabilities
So you're agreeing with me that DE's aren't required to have torpedoes.

>common sense tells us that its either 155mm or 15.5cm
Like I said, 15.5cm guns are cruiser territory, so claiming a destroyer or destroyer escort is required to have 15.5cm guns is just as retarded as talking about 155cm guns.

>it is us all who decided in the first place to use CVB and yet, here we are repeating history again
Exactly. I'm here to complain about this repetition of history because ignoring it didn't work last time.
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http://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=11617659

Someone accidentally lost his Shimushu and is asking how to get another.
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Why is this potato so long?
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>>17019381
The only real problem with it is sparkling, which is a larger problem in general. It would be perfectly fine if you could sparkle ships by feeding them some resources or sending them on a 15 minute expedition to a hot tub. The concept of spending more resources to get an extra attack is OK, it's not too overpowered, and it makes it feel like serious business when you put all four fleets to work.
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>>17019446
By farming her again, you can even get dupes.
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>>17019451
>if you could sparkle ships by feeding them some resources

It's called Mamiya and Irako.
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>>17019451
It could be solved instantly if you didn't pay the cost when they don't show up.
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>>17019453
Those aren't resources. They're limited supply items that run out almost instantly if you aren't spending tons of cash.
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>>17019448
Because she's drawn by someone with poor understanding of propotations.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Starling_(U66)
Did any other ship molest as many Yuus as this one?
Also what would these British sloops be called in game and by wikiafagots?
Their displacement is closer to USN DEs than Kaibokans, but they lack torpedoes.
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>>17019452
Was about to tell him that when the thread got deleted.
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>>17019478
I wouldn't mind a long potato myself.
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>>17019441
>So you're agreeing with me that DE's aren't required to have torpedoes.
Irrelevant, as I mentioned, they are labeled DE due to them having a speed of over 20 knots.
Here's the source you wanted badly, Article 8:
>https://www.loc.gov/law/help/us-treaties/bevans/m-ust000002-1055.pdf
Which states: 3) are designed or fitted to launch torpedoes. As the Evart-class are designed to be fitted with torpedoes, but never was done so anyway, they are DE. Meanwhile, none of the Kaiboukans are designed to be fitted with torpedoes.

At 4) ares designed for a speed greater than twenty knots. The Shimushu barely hits 19.7 knots. The Evart-class however, can easily achieve up to 22 knots.

>Like I said, 15.5cm guns are cruiser territory, so claiming a destroyer or destroyer escort is required to have 15.5cm guns is just as retarded as talking about 155cm guns.
Of course its cruiser theory, but who gives a fucking shit? We're talking about the London Naval Treaty here.

>Exactly. I'm here to complain about this repetition of history because ignoring it didn't work last time.
And thats where you're wrong. They decided to stick with CVB without our consensus and it became the mess it is today. Now we're basically doing the fucking same thing by telling the other majority to go fuck themselves, forcing DE upon them.
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>>17019422

Patrol Frigate sounds nothing like escort at all.
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>>17019494
Irrelevant. Even if it doesn't sound like one, it doesn't change the fact that is indeed an escort.
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>>17019491
>cruiser theory
dat typo
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>>17019516
It's a malapropism.
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>>17019509

I am pretty sure DE sounds better and more intuitive than PF.
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Can't we just call them "E" for Escort?
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>>17019554
Isn't that why EE was created in the first place?
Only an E was just too confusing.
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>>17019564
Well then why can't we call them FE (Frigate Escort).

Since CVE==Escort Carrier.
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>>17019577
Because they aren't frigates?
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>>17019554

Sure forsenE
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even on kuso CV Hime and Tsu have to ruin everything
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>>17019581
But they're smaller than a Destroyer.
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>>17019581
Escort vessels smaller than destroyers specialized in ASW?
Sounds like frigates.
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>>17019599

They should be class as corvette more.
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>>17019603
CE then.
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>abbreviation autism is prevalent here too

How bored are you to care about something so insignificant?
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>>17019607
I'm done with the event, so quite bored.
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>>17019605
>CE
Wew lad

>>17019607
It always was. You missed the >CVB shitfest, I assume?
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>>17019607
>autism is prevalent here too
Welcome to /jp/, enjoy your stay here.
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>>17019611
>>17019607
I'm currently farming more resources to farm E5 for Roma and Littorio.
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>>17019600
That said, looking at tonnages and overall design, they are indeed closer to corvettes.
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This may not be the event that kills KanColle (I don't think any event will), but this will be the event that kills the English community. Good riddance 2bh
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>>17019491
Article 8 says vessels are exempt from limitation if they have none of the listed characteristics. What does that have to do with anything? Where does it use the label DE or destroyer escort? All you've shown is that the London Naval Treaty doesn't restrict the number of non-torpedo-bearing DE's Japan can build.

>Of course its cruiser theory, but who gives a fucking shit? We're talking about the London Naval Treaty here.
The treaty's article 15 states vessels with a gun above 5.1 inch (130 mm.) calibre are cruisers, so you give a fucking shit, asshole. If the Shimushu class had 155mm guns, the treaty would classify them as cruisers.

Article 15 defines destroyers as surface vessels of war the standard displacement of which does not exceed 1850 tons, and with a gun not above 5.1-inch. Even if you want to argue that destroyer escorts are destroyers, the treaty sets no minimums for the term destroyer, so it's compatible with calling them destroyer escorts.

>Now we're basically doing the fucking same thing by telling the other majority to go fuck themselves, forcing DE upon them.
Trying to switch places by shamelessly lying makes it obvious you're acting in bad faith and I was right to say you're a troll doing this just for the sake of starting fights. Everyone used DE until just recently, when trolls like you decided to try to force made up terms onto everyone else.
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>>17019605

FS to be exact.
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>>17019619

It is because a bunch of autists in the wikia editors think PF is the perfect abbv. for the new ship types even though Tanaka specifically wrote "Escort" on the cards. And no, frigate is not an escort. Frigate is too big for that ffs.
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>>17019629
PF still beats shit like EE or ES or whatever crap those fucktards come up with.
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PF makes more sense with the Shinmusu class ships we have now and I don't mind it staying like that for now, however DE is a more accurate umbrella term for the in-game Escort designation on a long run.

When devs are going to implement actual DEs, which were more numerous than PFs, or ships that were corvettes or sloops, are we still going to call those Patrol Frigates? It's unlikely that those ships will be classified as anything other than Escorts in the actual game.
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>>17019629
I thought the autism was done, and most of the normies/general people pretty much said "Shut the fuck up, just use DE because it's easy to remember."

The classification arguments are still going over at wikia?
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Someone scrapped his T96 fighter kai by mistake.
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>>17019644

They are still using the stupid PF.

>>17019641

Just use DE.
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>>17019651
It's still in his dex. I don't think anyone should feel bad about scrapping the second worst plane in the game.
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>>17019416
if you're ok with only 60% of it showing up
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>>17019661
That's what he said too.
>it wouldn't change anything, right?
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>>17019665
Weren't support expedition appear rate only related to fs sparkleness?
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>>17019667
Closer to "affect" than "change", but yeah.
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>>17019651
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>>17019651
You can get one more from Taiyou remodel, unless you are potatohater.
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>>17019674
Ships yes, but most people don't lock equipment right away.
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>>17019621
>Article 8 says vessels are exempt from limitation if they have none of the listed characteristics. What does that have to do with anything? Where does it use the label DE or destroyer escort? All you've shown is that the London Naval Treaty doesn't restrict the number of non-torpedo-bearing DE's Japan can build.
It proves everything, because the fact its not restricted, means that it is in no way a DE. It does not prove its a PF either, but it definitely proves that is in no fucking way a DE.

>The treaty's article 15 states vessels with a gun above 5.1 inch (130 mm.) calibre are cruisers, so you give a fucking shit, asshole. If the Shimushu class had 155mm guns, the treaty would classify them as cruisers.
Yeah, fuck you too. As stated, the 155mm is part of the Article 8 London Naval Treaty. It's not relevant in our discussion, but the fact remains that it is a criteria. By saying that DE are not Destroyers, you're essentially saying that the Matsu-class are not destroyers, dipshit.

>Trying to switch places by shamelessly lying makes it obvious you're acting in bad faith and I was right to say you're a troll doing this just for the sake of starting fights. Everyone used DE until just recently, when trolls like you decided to try to force made up terms onto everyone else.
The fact that you even dare to call me a liar just proves how much of a fucking ignorant ass you are. Calling names and treating everyone who disagrees with you to be a troll will not help your case. You see, people like you form the general population of our place, no fucking shit people have no faith in us.
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What the heck is going on in this thread? It's like I'm back nav academy. Darkest days.
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>>17019451
>The concept of spending more resources to get an extra attack is OK, it's not too overpowered
more like the number one problem with the game is that there's dozens of mechanics that are not too overpowered individually but too strong all together, so it's balanced by randomly not doing anything most of the time.
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>>17019681
Aren't Matsu-class DDEs?
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>>17019681

I bet you believe that Japan's Self Defense Force can't do an offensive attack too.
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>>17019491
>forcing DE upon them.
LEL. They've been using DE for years but a few days after they're finally added someone decided to be special and change it to something "correct" and then tell everyone else to change it as well because you're not allowed to be different from the glorious wikia empire.
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Just. Use. DE.

PF sounds so faggy.
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>>17019683
Weren't you here for the days leading up to Suzuya's Kai Ni?

Everyone and their mothers were suddenly working on their PhD. thesis in Naval History trying to speculate whether or not Suzuya's Kai Ni would be a CVL or a CAV.
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Do kaibōkan™ count as DDs for expeditions?
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>>17019672
boss is 80% +20% for flagship. route is 50% base +5% for every sparkle or some stupid shit. it caps at 80%.
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>>17019710

Yes, DE counts as DD for some reason.
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>>17019714
Hmm how curious.
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>>17019709
It was obvious from this tweet that she'd get a reversible remodel.
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/846299532711256064
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>>17019695

Actually, no there will be a poll open to anyone who wants to participate and decide asking if people want to keep using DE or decide a new denomination for the Kaiboukan.

The vote will be controlled by 10 people from all comunities around. It will be hold in google forms and will require having a gmail account to vote. You won't be able to see the results until the end of the vote.
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>>17019710
>>17019714
No, you still need DDs for expeditions 21, 37 and 38. Apparently they count as half a DD or something.

http://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=11566096
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>>17019734
>as half a DD or something.
Their new classification should be "D" then.
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>>17019722

Why don't we just tweet to the official twitter and settle this once and for all?

"Hai~ There is a situation in our KC English community and it is breaking the community apart. It started out as a problem on deciding the short term for the new type of ship introduce to the game..."

"... which is kaibōkan (海防艦). Some of the people started it out to give it the code - PF (Patrol Frigate) while others think that DE (Ocean Escort) would be a better term to use. Can you please tell us which one is the preferred term for these 3 new cute ships?"
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>>17019711
80% + 15% for sparkled flagship IIRC. Boss Support with sparkled leader let me down already.
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>>17019744
>>17019734
There will be a new game mechanic that will allow two CP boats to fit into one slot.
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For those wondering where to level Taiyou, she does well in 5-1 if you can get her ASW to 65.
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>>17019711
Boss is 85%. Route is 50%.
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E5 M node is very brutal. Do I need AA formation or just line ahead and pray?
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>>17019766
> pray
Always.
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>>17019766

Just don't go to M. And yes, you should farm before you clear.
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>>17019744
>提督
Immersion ruined.
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>>17019722
>decide a new denomination for the Kaiboukan
Can we vote for ASS because only reason they're in game is to hog slots actually useful ships could take and to convince you to buy more, but at the same time you can't get rid of them because you don't know whether you won't need those for event routing.

also
>It will be hold in google forms and will require having a gmail account to vote.
Why, a standard forum vote would be fine for something ultimately so irrelevant, it's like they're trying to limit the amount of voters in case someone votes for something they don't like.
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>>17019766
E5 permanently changes the routing rules when you clear it. So yes; farm first.
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>>17019766
I've never really taiha'd on that node. Helps to send one LBAS while the rest goes to the boss.
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>>17019760
I found 3-2 to be really good. No stopping for fatigue, no f5ing, and easily reparable damage.
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>>17019786

>Making a google account is too hard for me.
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>>17019794
Not him but I've made a google forms poll, and you can actually selectively delete votes that you don't like.
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>>17019794
>I'm going to surrender to the niggerjew military-industrial complex shadow cabal surveillance state just to vote on some inconsequential aspect of a Japanese moe anthropomorphism flash game.
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>>17019797

Then what is the point of the poll?
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>>17019800
To give the illusion of choice, I suppose.
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>>17019744
I want to give Kuna my D.
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>>17019794
>using botnet mail for anything anytime
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>>17019808
Just like real-world elections organized by (((them))).
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The Tas have some bizarre aimbotting going on by only aiming for my CVLs in E5. I've changed positions and it doesn't care
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>>17019799

To be honest you already surrendered your identity to the big corps just by using the internet. I didn't log in my Youtube but Youtube knows what kind of video I would like and keep posting them in the homepage, scary as fuck. And no, clearing cookies or caches solved nothing.
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>>17019817
Holepunch + damecon
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>>17019766
Maya and AS. If you still get taiha just use FCF since BB Hime easily dies without a full fleet.
If you still get multiple taiha you need to get better at rolling dice.
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>>17019821
> Being this new.
Try to block and conrol all third-party stuff. Diconnect me is pretty okay.
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>>17019681
>It proves everything, because the fact its not restricted, means that it is in no way a DE. It does not prove its a PF either, but it definitely proves that is in no fucking way a DE.
You haven't found any clause in the treaty that refers to DE's. The treaty has nothing to do with ships that fall below the requirements for being restricted in numbers and it doesn't define DE's. You've been proven wrong by the treaty.

>but the fact remains that it is a criteria.
A criteria for what? The treaty says it's a criteria for being a cruiser and for having numbers restricted.

>By saying that DE are not Destroyers, you're essentially saying that the Matsu-class are not destroyers, dipshit.
So you're claiming the Matsus are DE's. On what basis are you saying they're DE's? The Japanese referred to them as Type-D Destroyer (丁型駆逐艦 Tei-gata kuchikukan), not kaibokan.

You haven't provided any arguments other than claiming Matsus are DE's, and you're having a breakdown because the London Naval Treaty disagreed with you.
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>>17019797

Well, you are free to believe whatever you want. I can only tell you that there are plenty of representatives, not only from wikia but also from enwiki and also lots of other comunities monitoring vote imput as to prevent manipulation. I've been in this thread for more than 3 years and I'll also be part of that group of moderators... you'll probably say I'm lying etc. etc.
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fwiw jap think its a sloop

>その建造意図を見ると、同時期の他国で言う「スループ(艦)」に相当する艦種と言える。
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>>17019844
If you say so, then what do you think of this suggestion?
>>17019366
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So no updates on ASW mechanics so far? What is better on the third slot, 10ASW sonar or 4ASW charge?
I'm trying to effectively farm E1 so this is important.
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>>17019853
If T3 sonar worked for you when you cleared E1, stick with it.
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>>17019853
If you can reach OASW with the new racks, then use them and see.
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>>17019793
I'm saving baux for last ditch attempt at Littorio farming.
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>>17019851

By going with multiple choices in viewer it can create confusion when making talk about the ships in lots of contexts, like composition sharing. Having to memorize 3 or 4 differrnt designations for a single ship class is impractical.
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>>17019844
>but also from enwiki and also lots of other comunities
So wikia, the slow always outdated wiki, reddit, himebuta and maybe some Facebook groups?
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>>17019872
>Having to memorize 3 or 4 differrnt designations for a single ship class is impractical.
Most people don't have such a shitty memory.
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Is there a composition that would allow me to farm pastas after finishing E5 on Hard? I kinda underestimated how the route change will fuck me over and now I'm getting taihas before reaching the boss node with the same fleets that killed the boss.
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>>17019873
>and maybe some Facebook groups?
There are facebook groups people go to for event discussion and KanColle help? Fucking lol
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>>17019832

How to block the social media buttons which is on every website nowadays?
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>>17019872
>By going with multiple choices in viewer it can create confusion

Like Kancolle and KanColle?
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>>17019882
2 CV + 2 CVL + Nachi + Maya in main fleet
Abukuma/Bep/Kasumi + 3 CLT in escort fleet
Give any 2 or 3 of Abukuma/CLTs OASW, I suppose.
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>>17019882
>>17019923
Oops, put Nachi in flagship spot. Maybe give her long range with 203mm or something.

And yes, I'm saying to sacrifice DA/TCI on your CL(T)s, because you'll never reach the boss node otherwise.
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>>17019916
This is only an issue for autists who don't know (or pretend to) what this thread is about.
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>>17019928
It's about KanColle, isn't it? And game discussion, in particular.
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>>17019873

There are from other places besides those.

Also, there are some unasociated individuals that are part of the moderation team.
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>>17019910
Ghostery + uBlock Origins
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I wish TNK will implement a USN ship equvalent of kaiboukan just to end this discussion about DE or PF.
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How many runs did it take you to get Kamoi? I'm losing it here.
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>>17019980

Just use DE for now.
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>>17019981

I accidentally get one when I was farming for Roma. In fact, farming for Roma was a mistake since I got a second one while clearing.
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>>17020003
Lucky, she has the best yellow guns in the game.
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>>17020003
Yeah. I got a second one after 10 runs of getting my first one, but still no Littorio.
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>>17020007

Yellow guns are useless. 20.3(3) + Max is better than that shit.
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>>17019836
>You haven't found any clause in the treaty that refers to DE's. The treaty has nothing to do with ships that fall below the requirements for being restricted in numbers and it doesn't define DE's. You've been proven wrong by the treaty.

Did you even listened to what I said? The fact that DEs are restricted by the treaty, while the Kaiboukan does not match the description to be restricted by it, it pretty much proves that the Kaiboukan and DE cannot be put in the same category.

>A criteria for what? The treaty says it's a criteria for being a cruiser and for having numbers restricted.
It is rather pointless to argue with you on this point, because 15.5cm has nothing to do with destroyers anyway.

>So you're claiming the Matsus are DE's. On what basis are you saying they're DE's? The Japanese referred to them as Type-D Destroyer (丁型駆逐艦 Tei-gata kuchikukan), not kaibokan.
I never directly stated that they're Kaiboukan. You are trying to claim that DE are not destroyers. The Matsu-class were officially treated as DD by the IJN, but the other navies beg to differ, due to the armament she has used.
>http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/M/a/Matsu_class.htm
>http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/id/oni222j-japan-navy/tail018.htm

Note that even the ONI has classified the Matsu as DE. Keep in mind that the document was in 1945, DDE was only used to refer post-war DDs that were refitted to carry ASW duties instead.

As I said, by saying that DE are not destroyers, you're basically saying that the Matsu-class being treated as DE was wrong, but thats something you can fight it out yourself.

>You haven't provided any arguments other than claiming Matsus are DE's, and you're having a breakdown because the London Naval Treaty disagreed with you.
Mental breakdown, really? Stop putting words in my mouth and actually read the things I post for once. You keep arguing about stuff that is not relevant to the point we're making. Till now, you have not provided a valid point as to why Kaiboukan are actually DE, other than because the other says so.
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>>17019827
>>17019791
Checked, I forgot AS.
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>>17019244
We actually use the USN one because the game also uses it.
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>>17019981
Stay strong, my friend.
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>>17020026

Do you think Japan really followed through every detail of the treaty? Also Ocean Escort is a closer translation for Ocean Defense Ship than Patrol Frigate is.
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>>17018948
I missed out on the first two events that gave out mememedals, so I can never have them all. If there's no special equipment for doing hard, I do the last map on medium.

It's literally impossible for me to get 10 mememedals and become a Pro Kan Collector, so there's no reason to stress myself for no real benefit.
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>>17019872
Makes it easier who to tell to fuck off.
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>>17020051
Mind you that the translation is "Coastal Defense Ship".

And I agree, the IJN gave no fuck about the treaty, but that doesn't mean its not a valid argument.
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Catbomb girl has dropped eight times for me this event. What does it mean?
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>>17020115
You need to marry her.
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>>17020115
Marry it
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>>17020115
She is following you.
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>>17019981
67 sorties.

I hate that events now involve more farming than clearing. There's also the new retarded multiple phases per map meme that's getting unbelievably retarded.
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>got dupe Littorio
What do now??
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>>17020143
give her to me
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>>17020143
Trade my dupe Roma for your dupe Littorio.
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>>17020143
Take the OTO
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I might have a chance to visit Iowa irl sometime soon. I'm kinda excited but also a bit worried. Like what if I get a boner while I'm thinking of her or something.
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>>17020168
Bring a ring and a few towels.
Complete the "ceremony".
Use towels.
Leave the ring.
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>>17020143
1st Run.
You get what you don't ask for.
Fuck you Roma, I want Erotofu.
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So the Abyssla patroler has shit bombing but good shelling or what? No shipgirls has ever gone taiha due to them.
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>>17020179
Aren't you supposed to "ceremony" on her, because that's what ceremonytoilets like her are for?
So towels would be redundant.
And replace ring with money.
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>>17020026
The treaty doesn't mention DEs anywhere. They aren't necessarily restricted by it. The treaty proves you wrong.

>http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/id/oni222j-japan-navy/tail018.htm
This has them marked as DD-Matsu and DD-Kuwa. We're talking about the code, and it's DD there. The kgbudge link doesn't use codes.

>Note that even the ONI has classified the Matsu as DE
Where? That disagrees with the DD in the hnsa link.

So yes, I'll side with the IJN itself and the hnsa link. Matsus are DDs.

>You keep arguing about stuff that is not relevant to the point we're making.
I was directly replying to things you said. Why were you bringing up things that weren't relevant to the point? Why did you start talking about 155cm guns and 15.5cm guns?

>Till now, you have not provided a valid point as to why Kaiboukan are actually DE, other than because the other says so.
If referring to a source is "the other says so" then of course I'm using sources instead of just making stuff up. I linked a site that says DE includes "Escort." I could also point out how Shimushu and Evarts (DE-5) had almost exactly equivalent armaments, and how kaibokans were multi-role ships that could cover a DE's role.
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>>17020096
What's the source of that translation? Putting 海 into the dictionary gives "sea; ocean; waters".
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>>17020202
You may get caught if you don't use the towel. Or you know of some super seclusive place where your "respect" won't be found out, at least not soon.
If you don't really like her, money's okay.
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This "game" is shit. I'm only here to get my wife.
Does anyone else feel like this?
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>>17020229
No.

And unless you got her to level 99 and gave her a ring, she isn't your wife.
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>>17020229

Nope. This is the best game I've played so far. It is the best thing happened in my life.
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>>17020229
Not really
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>>17020238
Did Tanaka ever sing the pokemon song about KanColle?
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Uh oh
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>>17020235
Well, of course I would get her to lvl 99 asap but after that I don't feel like I'm going to care.
>>17020238
>>17020241
That's okay.
I hope you have fun with the game, anons!
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>>17020253
They're about to have lots of sex afterwards, right?
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>>17020254
Next is of course level 155.
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>>17020152
1 or 2 OTOs? should I use BP on both? is it worth it?
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>>17020229
Well the game is shit yes, but no.
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>>17020255
No, they'll just sink in the event.
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>>17020257
She's getting a Kai Ni soon so I may be here longer here than I hoped.
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>>17020264
If you did Spring 2015 and got Roma, you should have 5 and depending if you find secondaries useless, that may be all you need.
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>>17020217
The source is myself, I can read japanese just fine.
海 by itself means sea or ocean and 防 means defense or prevent, but 海防 together makes it coastal defense. An important thing you must not forget is that a meaning changes when you combine kanjis together.

A good example is 皮, which means skin or anything similar while 肉 means meat. 皮肉 combined however, means irony / sarcasm. See how the new word makes no reference to the kanjis that are used to create this word?
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can someone talk to me about the uzuki light bulb thing? wouldn't a normal person have died after going through something like that? did she end up killing herself?
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>>17020283
Buckets. Lots and lots of them.

Also some damecon
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>>17020283
Humans are incredibly resilient, shipgirls can take bombs to the face and be fine.
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>>17020283
She got addictd to lightbulbs after that.
And she's a kanmusu, i'm sure Ooi hit her with a bucket so people wouldn't see her bloody waterfall when she'd try to walk around.
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>>17020283
>questioning doujin logic
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>>17020283
> wouldn't a normal person have died after going through something like that?
Nope. Humans have gone through worse and survived.
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>>17020292
>>17020294
>>17020295
>>17020298
>>17020300

thanks for the wisdom this was gonna keep me up for a few hours lmao
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>>17020238
Same. This is the only game where I even achieved something. I'm going to play it until the servers will close.
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>>17020280
Then you're just saying that yourself and it's not official in any way.
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>>17020283

She is a shipgirl so she is fine. If you are talking about human, then the lightbulb bursts inside a girl's vagina won't kill her. She just need to visit the hospital and that will be fine. It would be extremely painful though.
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>>17020325
I would pound this rabbit.
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About to start E4, what to expect?
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>>17020329
Dont be a moron. Use google with whatever dictionary you want and you will come to the same conclusion.
>http://en.bab.la/dictionary/japanese-english/%E6%B5%B7%E9%98%B2
>https://www.japandict.com/%E6%B5%B7%E9%98%B2
>http://www.linguee.com/japanese-english/translation/%E6%B5%B7%E9%98%B2.html

If you're not satisfied, then use your own head to sort it out, as long as you dont ise google/bing translate.
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>>17020351
Second easiest map after E-1, but may take some time.
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>>17020351
Hardest map of the event.
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>>17020329
>沿岸・領海警備、拠点防衛、船団護衛、対潜哨戒等を主要任務とする艦のことを指す。
>沿岸・領海警備
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CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>17020355
Don't be a moron. You're picking two kanji out of a three kanji word right after you finished saying the meaning changes after combining them. Fuck off if you're too stupid to notice you're contradicting yourself.
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>>17020373
Why are you picking only one out of a list of several things and acting like that's the only one that counts?
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>>17018933
I really hope EO's dev sees all their thug tactics and doesn't let them break him. He seems like a chill dude, coming here and asking us how to make EO look better.
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>>17020402

Stop anon, you lost this long ago. You are just grasping at straws and you are wrong nevertheless.
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>>17020414
The translator and dev are 2 different people, EO already has PF unless you edit it yourself.
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>>17020421
Holy shit, like not here as well.
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>>17020424
I'll still take PF over their autistic made up shit.
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>>17020420
Don't be a moron. An important thing you must not forget is that a meaning changes when you combine kanjis together.

A good example is 皮, which means skin or anything similar while 肉 means meat. 皮肉 combined however, means irony / sarcasm. See how the new word makes no reference to the kanjis that are used to create this word?
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>>17020414

Up to that point there was a real drive toward using these thug tactics you described but after a debate he was pushed back and now he's in line with the future poll.
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Why are Jets so fucking trash
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>>17020402
Of all things, you use fucking wikipedia to support your claim.
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>>17020452
It sounds more like he pussied out after one of his superiors told him to knock it off and now he's trying to sound less thuggish before he gets sacked.
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>>17020421
>The "Destroyer" part of Destroyer Escort doesn't mean they were destroyers. The bulk of the arguments against using DE don't hold water, because they assume that a DE is a Destroyer when the bulk of the DEs were purpose-built ships intended for convoy escort and ASW. A DE is not the same as an Escort Destroyer (DDE) which was a proper destroyer.

>PF is the wrong term. There was only ever one Patrol Frigate class and it was not like a Kaiboukan. The Kaiboukan were closer to corvettes or gunboats or very small frigates. The entire basis for this argument seems to be that the ONI called some of the Japanese Kaiboukan PFs in the mid-40s when they had very little data on them (and in the same breath compared them to DEs as well)

Nice to see there's at least one sensible person over there.
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>>17020464
If Kaiboukans were really DDs, they would have pity torpedo stat like Zara and Ooyodo do, but they do not like auxiliary ships.
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>>17020421

>A little argument for DE
>Lots of argument against DE
>Not even one argument for or against PF

It shows that using PF is indefensible. It is either DDE or DE and I personally prefer DE.

And of course the most upvoted comment is one that is a joke that contributes nothing to the discussion, like every other reddit thread.
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>>17020481
>DDE
lel no
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>>17020462

Whatever you believe man. I was there to see it.
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>>17020489

I don't like DDE either. It is not a destroyer, nor is it a fucking frigate.
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>>17020481
The cards say escort, said it all really.
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>>17020503

This. If the card says destroyer, then we use DDE. If the card says frigate, we use PF. If the card says escort, we use DE.
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>>17020481

>DE
>DDE

But both are wrong too anon.
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>this triggers the wikiatard
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>>17020520
doing gods work

what file do I have to edit?
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>>17020503
Escort is not the same as Destroyer Escort. Its like calling a sausage a hot-dog, and people trying to justify it by claiming that they are right.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix
On the other hand, I like the EE idea. I don't see why people make such a big fuss over some made up name when in reality, nearly half of the classifications have been made up so far.
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>>17020528
Ship Types in the Translation folder in notepad or something. Set it to read-only because every time it auto updates translations, it reverts it back.
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>>17020481
From what I see, the point of that debate is to prove that DE is wrong. I don't see why putting argument about PF is in any way necessary, if it isn't the goal to convince people that PF should be used.
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>>17020551
Case closed.
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>>17020548
> the point of that debate is to prove that DE is wrong

That is only half of the point. So what other abbv should you use then? The wikia-tards want to keep using PF which is why they are attacking DE's usage. And it is an easy way to do it without putting the usage of PF under scrutiny.
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>>17020503
>>17020507

But an Escort vessel are DEs and PFs, along with sloops and other ships used for convoy escort.
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>>17020551
Etorofu's face cracks me up.
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>>17020566

There will be a second poll to decide which classification to adopt.
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It's considered comparable to frigate in foreign navy.
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>>17020586
This
Case closed, its a Frigate.
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>>17020586
Reclassified on 1975.
They are WW2 boats, not modern boats.
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>>17020569

According to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_escort

DE was later reclassified as FFG, frigate essentially (1975). So if we want to use older classification, use DE. If we want to use new ones, FFG.
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>>17020596
Surprisingly enough, people keep forgetting this too.
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>>17020596
>>17020601

Correct. If we stick to the older classification, DE is the way to go.
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>>17020473
There are DE without torps either
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>>17020601
>>17020610
FF/FFG were merged from both DE and PF before that.
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>>17020630
That's the argument he and I were making, and I thought that anon was agreeing. They are not Destroyers, hence why DDE is wrong. They are auxiliary purpose built vessels intended for ASW and convoy defence. That's what a DE is.
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>>17020640

If they are similar ship type, and we look purely on translation, DE would be closer to the original.
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>>17020586
Except they were smaller than frigates in RN and USN. Size wise, they were corvettes.
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Hey for anyone interested in the anthologies, vol 17 just came out and you can get raws here:
https://www.mediafire.com/?u4wekexcxon3jss
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Mama Kamoi please comfort me.
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Red fleet is coming.
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>>17020687

Oh boy, looks awfully familiar. I wonder what will happen next?
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>>17020709
Bep is ripe for breeding.
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>>17018933
This Tsubakura guy is on a real power trip everywhere, it's no wonder he doesn't like /jp/.
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>>17020709
Too bad red fleet was so insignificant. All we can cout for is destroyers and subs. I'd love to see some soviet subs.
If only we could have ships from the golden age of cold war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt41bYQBgE
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>>17020520
>ArmoredCV
>Going all of his way instead of writing any kinds of abbreviations
God bless you righteous bastard.

>>17020765
He's like that certain Hayashi-kun before he shot himself in the waist and foot, quitting after spring 2016. Too cocky and overconfident.
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>>17020768

There is no need for a strong fleet when your nation's survival is based on land fights.
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Finally free
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>>17020842
Well, we're not playing GuntaiColle here.
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>>17020765
He doesn't even have full memedals.
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>>17020886
I would like to agree with you, but it's not the good way to measure someone's skill. It depends on person, I personally think as long as you have every unique girl in your possession already makes you skilled by default, whether you have 10 medals or not, but if you have 10 medals but lack at least 1 girl, than you should probably end your life in quick succession.
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>>17020907
t. Tsubakura
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>>17020917
pfft LUL so fast.
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>>17020917
I don't think reddit shitters care about girls genuinely, I am ready to fight with anyone who badmouth my precious girls.
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>>17020907
I'm not talking about his skill.
He probably doesn't like /jp/ because he doesn't have all memedals.
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>>17020874
D-day time kill? Is this luck or p2w power?
please share your trick.
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>>17020950
Full LBAS+debuff+Greet Tea.
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>>17020957
Hayasui doesn't matter at all?
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>>17020950
Both. My LBAS managed to KO one of the BB Himes and my girls cleaned up easily afterwards.

>>17020957
No Green T, but I did run full LBAS, 3 attackers + 1 fighter on each base. Got lucky in that the enemy air raids didn't do significant damage to my bases.
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>>17020964
What's the setup for fleet oiler? I have several p2w tank.
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>>17020990
She wasn't even Lv 30, I gave her a Kyoufuu Kai on her first slot and 2 p2w drums.
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And is it enough to ensure S rank?
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>Still farming in E-1
>Only Suzuya bullshit

YAMEROOOOOOOOO.
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If I cleared E-3, I can't go back and farm A for Hayasui can I?

I tried do transport fleet with two auxiliaries and I get off routed.
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Holy shit this is the power of p2w meme. Should've use this from the start. Sorry for playing like a coward, but what I want is certainty.
Btw, Roma dropped again. Fuck you, Roma.
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>>17021153
>p2w suck drums while chipping
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>>17021161
Sameold issue, no time to waste anymore.
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FUCKING FINALLY, GOD FUCKING DAMMIT, FINALLY.
Now for Kamoi.
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>>17021227
Omedetou.
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>>17021227
>he didn't get Hitomi from E-3 on the first try last event
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Let's do our best this week as well.
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I miss when Kaga was still elite. I want to use her more.
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>>17021294
You could've used her in E-2.
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>>17021292
You're an hour early, yodo
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>>17021294
There are what, 3 carriers better than her and Akagi?
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>>17021292
You're an hour early
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>>17021302
4: Cranes, Taihou, and Sara.
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>>17021307
Taihou is trash.
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>>17021294
She's still the most lesbian shipgirl ever.
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>>17021309
Still better than Kaga.
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>>17021302
There's 4 for sure and arguably 6 if what you're using her and Akagi for isn't Reppuu mules, in which case the dragons are better too.
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When will Houshou be useable in game?
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>>17021342
Never.
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>>17021309
Then all the unarmored carriers must be a pile of steaming shit.
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>>17021361
No because they Taiha less.
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>>17021395
You're a fucking retard.
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>>17021395
Is it 2014 again?
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How to arrange 3 expeditions of that the gain of resources is that fuel>bauxite>ammo>steel?
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>3rd Roma, still no Littorio
I am suffering really bad right now.
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>>17021438
6, 5, 38
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>>17021495

Thought so. I guess there is no other way than this.
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RELEASE FASTER DAMN IT
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>>17021486
I got Littorio but no Grandma. Don't really care about Roma though.
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>>17021567
Akitushima's cute perky tits.
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>>17021573
words of wisdom
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Range is the worst mechanic in this game.
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>>17021618
Its funny how he kept nerfing the damn gimmick, really shows how garbage it is.
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>>17021573
>>17021587
Well if there's anything good about her it's her fantastic body.
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>>17021567
Still the cutest Aux.
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>>17021176
Finally done. Perfect S rank.
Any comp to farm Etorofu without bauxite?
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>>17021664
Unfortunately, no.
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>>17021674
Got it. Any expedition combo for bauxite?
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>>17021664
Could I see your equipment?
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>>17021684
Of course, but it's just a cookie-cutter fleet with greentea and luck LBAS. I would rather use a normal cookie cutter one if I had more time and resources.
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Help me /jp/.
I've reached the final battle in Hard, and I'm so nervous my stomach hurts.
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I want Erotofu, what the fuckery is this?
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>>17021732
It feels like Roma has rigged the drops.
It feels like i'll have to wait another year to try and get Littorio.
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>>17021719
Can CTF work without the jets adding to both air power and bombing power?
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>>17021746
>That good feeling when Tanaka gives you what you want. Littorio who is sexier than the ship you don't care to get, Roma.
I am sorry anon.
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>>17021747
IMO, it can and possibly better (but I don't have enough res to try). See my Shoukaku, she lost her jet but can still deal decent damages to enemy fleets with just 1 esuga left.
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>>17021763
I wanted to get Roma. Didn't really mind when i go a second one. My stomache started to turn when i got a third one.
I'm slowly falling into despair.
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>>17021719
Poor fairies.
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>>17021776
Yeah, esuga-san is the unsung hero of this war
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>>17021719
I'm gonna try this, but I just noticed I only have 6 land bombers in total.
Should I pack all 3 of them in 1st and 2nd LBAS then fit the 3rd with 2 Ryuusei Kai + 1 Egusa and Taitei-chan?
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>>17021719
What's the point of meme juice CTF if it doesn't replenish planes? Shoukaku could have easily been a sitting duck.
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Just got this girl on E5 easy, what's she known for?
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>>17021796
1 plane is all they need to destroy the boss.
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>>17021816
Cute hair, having big boobs.
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>>17021816
Tits.
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>>17021816
Big fangs.
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>>17021816
One of the original gumos, very nice tits.
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>>17021793
Not really sure about that but you should try crafting Landbase planes first.
>>17021796
That's Shinano's function.
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>>17021845
Enjoy your ban.
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>>17021796
That's Shinano's or HMS Unicorn's function.
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>>17021793
I forgot to add, for chipping runs, LBAS with 2/2 and 1/3 are enough. Use the last one to protect your resources.
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>>17021837
>>17021827
>>17021823
What good are those tits, if you can't even grab them?
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>>17021845

Did you know that those countries who lost WW2 have flourishing economy now? Seems like it all worked up pretty well.
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>>17021846
I don't have enough baux left to do that, is the problem. I can try maybe once or twice with CTF then all else with STF and that's it.
Don't really want to do STF after all the chipping I did with it, where 7 times out of 10 I had to turn back because of troll subs. Wasn't a problem then because I only used LBAS for support, but now with boss and node support to ensure success, it sounds much more expensive.

>>17021861
That's what I did. I'm on last dance now.
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Yes, YES, YYEEESSSS!!!
The run i said would be my final farm one gave me Littorio. Now i can screw up on clearing the event.
God bless you, all you anons and your /jp/ magic.
Min`na Dai suki!
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>>17021892
Fuck off.
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>>17021901
You fuck off.
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>>17021940
Fuck off.
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Are there any guesses what the other CL k2 besides Yura will be? Natori?
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>>17022010
Definitely not Nagara.
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>>17022010
Yahagi's time to shine!
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>>17022010
Yubari. Has to be.
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Do I sparkle escort fleet ships so they can dodge those fucking subs better?
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I bought my wife a kitchen.
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>>17022183
A ship that useless belongs in the kitchen, good job.
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>>17022187
And she's got a little helper in Taiyou now.
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>>17022183
>wasting a ring on such a useless ship
Even Taiyou is better than this bitch.
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>>17021732
Go E4 dumbo. She has the highest drop rate among all girls at E4
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>>17022204
There's this thing called love.
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>>17022204
What's wrong with marrying a ship you love?
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>>17022211
>>17022214
Everyone knows that the love stat is FP+TP. Houshou's love stat is one of the lowest at 29.
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>>17022219
Better than Aquila.
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>>17022230
Aquila has a higher yoshi-yoshi stat.
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>>17021719
the the HELL did you do with your dangerbear?
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>>17022230
That's not hard to pull off
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>>17022231
How much is that worth?
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>>17022230
Aquila has 4 slots so it makes up for it.
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>>17022249
It's not nothing, but it's not much more.
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>>17022183
Good. That's where she belongs
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>>17022183
I bet she does incredible sandwitches.
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Important question:

Who is the most annoying shipgirl ever made?

>you can only choose one
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>>17022293
Yamakaze.
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>>17022293
Abukuma
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>>17022293
Abukuma. I'd like her if it wasn't for that fucking voice.
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>>17022293
Ooyodo.
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>>17022295
>>17022296
After playing for more than half a year, i can't even point out why i didn't like her voice to begin with. It sounds pretty much normal to me.

>>17022299
Yeah. Sakusen girl can get nerve wrecking when you accept 6 quests at a time. Not to mention the 3 click delay when you open the quest tab.
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>>17022306
>>17022299
>>17022296
>>17022294
Those are all annoying but the real answer is Tokitsukaze.
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>>17022323
But Tokitsukaze is the most squeeky-squeely girl around. That only makes her cuter.
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>>17022293
Abukuma.
It's not enough that her voice is grating, she also has to whine every time she fires.
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>STF chipping goes fine. Aside of sub node, other nodes never deal any damage
>Last Dance
>suddenly every node is criting the shit out of my girls
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>>17022355
>suddenly every node is criting the shit out of my girls
I don't know what you're talking about, even in last dance it was only the sub node.
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>>17022355
route nodes are line ahead every time when you get to final kill. before that they had a chance to be double line or diamond.
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>>17022355
Final form should be easier it's a 50% chance to get echelon subs vs 66% chance.
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>>17022355
I had the opposite experience. Sub node was fine, every other node I had at least one taiha with STF. Changed to CTF, everything went much more smoothly. Not done yet though, trying to farm Kamoi before clearing.
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fleet for E4 is 1cav4cv1ss?
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>>17021395
nigga wut
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>>17020414
I'm split between DE and PF, but I'll stick with the current designation unless kc devs designate the 2nd-class destroyers as kaiboukan.

Rather than that, I'm more bothered with Kamoi Kai Bo suffix.
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>>17022474
>but I'll stick with the current designation unless kc devs designate the 2nd-class destroyers as kaiboukan.
I doubt they'll add those but if they do what will you change it to?

>Rather than that, I'm more bothered with Kamoi Kai Bo suffix.
I don't think there's any good way to do that one.
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You could have saved her.
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>>17019155
Considering hes awfully fixated about the claim being wrong, just because of the 155cm, he looks like a troll to me.
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I want to be able to put single-gun 6inch guns on DDs.
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>>17022494
Revert to DE, though it's pretty unlikely.

Inaccurate as it may be, PF designation is good for maintaining separability between escort ships and destroyers for routing and quest purposes.
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>>17022588
I can already imagine the thug tactics autist pushing for a blacklisting EO in a fit of rage.
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>>17022506
Cool pokeball.
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>>17022596
Why would anyone blacklist EO when it's better than KC3?
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>>17022601
Because wikia mods are retards.
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Subs pls.
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nice, one more pasta to go
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Kunashiri's cute shiri is a lie.
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What I am doing wrong? I listened to all advice given to me yesterday to complete E-2, but still no luck. Tried a few times today, last time I even managed to reach boss without a single scratch, didn't get Red T and what do I get? C after day battle. Turned into A after night battle but still hanging at 0hp. Is it just bad RNG? Cause I don't think I can win if I need even more luck.
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>>17022631
>What I am doing wrong?
You're using KC3.
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Since Taiyou comes with the ASW Tenzan, do I still get a dupe Taigei ASW T97?
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>>17022634
No need since Taiyou comes with both a T97 (at Kai) and the Tenzan (at Kai 2).
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>>17022631
Since you just started, ditch Akagi and just use Kaga with fighters until you get AS and maybe a fast BB if you can spare it with AP shell, second shelling is important.
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>>17022631
get akagi to kai, and level more
night cut-ins will help too
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>>17022631
You should try running boss support if you can manage the ships and equipment for it. Outside of that, with your ships and equipment, you're just going to have to get lucky.
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How doe sit feel knowing that the USN is the only one with a 6-star rarity equipment?
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>>17022660
Good.
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>>17022631
Is that a fucking drum?
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>>17022660
Iwamoto should have been 6 stars too, I don't know how Tanaka decides rarity criteria.
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>>17022670
It is, he really should put a torp there.
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>>17022671
Iwamoto will get 6 stars when they add Iwamoto Reppuu or Iwamoto Jet Shinden.

>>17022674
A star shell would be better, Shimakaze has shit luck and putting a torp there will cause it to try to cut-in instead of going for double attack.
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>>17022679
Oh I know, but I don't think he has one or even a searchlight.
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Wikia really needs to fix their shit. They have the zeros split between Type 0 and Zero Fighter.
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>>17022670
>>17022674
I've been reading guide on wikia that said not to put anything in here so I've just put a drum. I'll try torpedoes.
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>>17022687
>I've been reading guide on wikia that said not to put anything in here
Let me guess, it was written by Shinhwalee.
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>>17022687
Well normally you would want to put radar or Yasen equips there not a fucking drum.
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>>17022687
Never read wikia guides. If you are new, you can just ask here if you are not sure as long as you don't act like a shit head obviously.
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>>17022687
One day you'll look back and wonder this:
>Why the fuck did I ever listen to retards on the wiki?
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>>17022687
>guide on wikia
Oh you poor soul. You use yasen stuff like a Searchlight or Star Shell, or a radar like 22.
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>>17022698
Might be too short on options, he probably only has weak air radar, if any.
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>>17022631
Is everyone fully modernized? Anti-air you can ignore for now.
>yellow gun on Myoukou
Get rid of that right fucking now, give her another radar, plane, anything as long as it's not another gun or torpedo. That's a secondary gun cut-in setup and those are awful.

Other than that you just have to try again, though maybe you could try bringing a BB instead of a CV. I hope you have an AP shell at least.
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>>17022687
don't put a torpedo. give her a night equip like a searchlight or a star shell, or if you don't have that a radar or even a sonar.
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次回「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群共通メンテナンス&アップデートは、【5/22(月)】に実施予定です!【AM 11:00】を予定している同メンテナンス突入を以て、現在展開中の春イベント2017:期間限定海域【出撃!北東方面 第五艦隊】は作戦終了となります。

Just 1 week to go for BIGGU SEBUN Nagato Kai 2.
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>>17022710
T13 radar would still be better than a drum. +1 accuracy is better than no accuracy. A T22 would be better though if he has no yasen equipment.
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So this is the power of the Yamato-class. Whoa...
Not even the worst jobbers, there's always Kiso for that. 150hp and no shields, yet she finds a way to fuck it up.
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>>17022725
That's why I never use them, they always fuck up.
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>>17022717
No Mutsu, no hype.
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>>17022725
Tell your hotels to git gud. This was single attack.
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>>17022717
Is it really right after the event ends or just wishful thinking?
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>>17022732
They did it for Zara, I don't see why they wouldn't do it for Nagato.
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>>17022731
Oh, I'm not complaining about their offensive powers. It's that both got fucking one shot by the boss. In two shellings, only 1 (one) shot out of 4 was pre-taiha.
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>>17022631
Seconding the BB if you can get air superiority with just Kaga, and getting rid of the yellow gun, and using boss support, and checking modernization, but the fact is you'll need either luck or leveling up.

>>17022687
Get familiar with equipments setups for both day and night like double attacks, torpedo cut-ins, and artillery spotting cut-ins. You need to choose equipment based on which attack type you're aiming for, and night battle uses either torpedo cut-ins like Yukikaze, or double attacks like Haguro.
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>>17022687
No, don't use a torp. That'll change Shimakazes setup to mixed cut-in and with her luck stat it probably wont even trigger and just do a single weak attack and miss.
If you really have no radar or night battle equipment to put there use some random anti-air gun or just leave the slot empty.
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Maintenance stats in exactly 1 week, 1 hour, and 11 minutes. Why aren't you leveling up your drops yet?
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>>17022725
>failing with over half your fleet married

Levels don't matter wwwwwwwwwww
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55k (net) fuel spent. Why am I not done yet, Wo?
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>>17022780
I hope that includes farming because you just suck if not.
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41cm x2 or 41cm + 35.6cm for BB(V)? Double 41cm says it has neutral fit while 41+35.6 has large fit bonus
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>>17022799
Joke's on you, I'm just copying other people's working fleets.
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>>17022743
Suijou has less fuel compare to kidou.
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>>17022836
Oh don't worry, I know all about the hell that's getting to the boss with kidou. Suijou, on the other hand, is pretty much about getting past the subs.
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>>17022764
Because I need five more and I don't have enough sacrificing ship-girls.
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>>17022725
My Musashi was the flagship at last dance and she won where as the Bongos always lost.
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What's Kamoi's signature dish?
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>>17022205
Yeah, tough luck, shit drops.
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>>17022293
Akebono. I like Abukuma's voice.
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>>17021892
Which posts are you again?
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>>17022631
This is hopeless. Post all your equipment.
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What's Erotofu's personality?
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>>17022953
Spats
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>>17022904
Cutlet for dinner and Mackerel with rice for breakfast.
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>>17022953
Like a lewd and putrid bean.
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>>17022596
You know, there's a tool that's currently calling aviation cruiser CVA
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>>17022972
Which one? That's likely a typo.
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>>17022972
>aviation cruiser
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https://pastebin.com/G3RZeqvW

This should be the last fix until the event ends.
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>>17022919
>阿武隈 7.865%
>択捉 6.071%
You farming kuso mode or something?
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sometimes I just want to advance on taiha
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>>17023023
It's fine, nothing will happen to your girls.
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>>17023028
no, of course, they'll die and my immense frustration will be replaced by crippling depression, but i'm not sure which one is worse
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>>17023023
Do it, then blame it on RNG and complain about it on wikia.
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>>17023023
Don't do it anon, I lost a 51cm and Reppuu 601 because of that.
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>>17023023
I did this once with my satsuki kai2, went to boss node and she survived both day and night battle.
That was just amazing luck though, you might not get the same luck as me.
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>>17023023
I do it all the time.
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>>17023023

This >>17023049
No risk no gain. Do it, don't be a pussy.
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What's the best steel expedition runs to do? I do exp. 3 a lot but that only gets me 40 steel.
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>>17023023
I did it once on accident.
She lived
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I'm ready to see an event loss
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>>17023069
EXP 3 has the best hourly yield. If you can sit around all day setting expeditions, that's your best bet. Do 37 if you can't.
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>>17023069
What's Iowa reading?
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>>17023032
Losing equipment is more important than losing a ship.
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>>17023080
this all depends on the equipment she has
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>>17023078
The title of the book is the same as these mooks.
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Taking bets
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>>17023133
cut-in will kill
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>>17023133
Kiso chokes.
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>>17023133
Kiso saves the day.
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>>17023133
Something will happen.
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>>17023133
Super choke since magane plebs can't see
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>>17023149
Their glasses have radar.
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>>17023133
>meganeshit
What a tryhard.
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>>17023133
Tons of choking, but KTKM sends everybody home
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>>17023142
>>17023144
KTKM just barely tapped her, Kiso did a single attack.
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>>17023172
>Kiso did a single attack.
Sasuga worst Kuma.
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>>17023158
The real tryhards are luck modded Abukuma and Prinz because the luck is almost at cap.
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>>17023133
Pathetic, using CLTs instead of Mochi and Kirishima.
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>>17023175
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>>17023200
>Abukuma
>20 luck
>almost at cap
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>>17023200
What?
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>>17023200
Don't talk shit about my 3-time MVP champ, you nigger.
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>>17023218
I would but Okinami was already the dedicated decoy and she's next for Maruyus
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im bored, pls give me a good comp and load out to farm e5 hard post clear
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>>17023262
Go fuck yourself.
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>>17023262
>>17019923
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>>17023277
All 3 LBAS to preboss BB hime node ?
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Someone tell me how to not get my sub taiha on node C at E4 every single time.
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>>17023292
I was thinking all 3 to boss, but you can send any number to BB hime node.
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>>17023297
Ro, engines, sparkle
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>>17023297
git gud
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>>17023297
Damecon.
They never seem to get taiha with them on.
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>>17023297
Headpat her, tell her she's a good girl and to do her best
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So, like every gun, the 16 inch are neutral on the hotels, right?
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>>17023357
Yes. I kind of wish 46cm was fit on Yamato class, that gun became irrelevant after fit guns was introduced.
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>>17023374
From start to finish, everything about the Yamato-class's design was balls-to-the-walls stupid.

They're basically the IJN equivalent of the Gustav cannon.
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Fucking shit are you dumbasses TRYING to catch the torpedoes?
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>>17022249
I want to fuck Aquila when she's wearing that skirt and suit.
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>>17023403
Swap out Akizuki for Maya.
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>>17023403
>Zuihou
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>>17023403
>Zuihou
Bring a real carrier like Jun'you.
>>
Why don't we get hard events anymore?
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>>17023424
People keep bitching on the dev twitter
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>>17023393
Super Yamatos were even dumber.
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>>17023424
The obvious solution is to make Extra Operations actually extra.
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>>17023462
Extra Operations are called that because newfags aren't expected to go past the main operation.
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>>17023393
At least one of them got some actual use.
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>>17023469
Yeah Gustav was at least somewhat useful unlike the shitty hotels.
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>>17023482
Exactly, they actually were used for their intended purpose.
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>>17023420
Done, will give it a shot tomorrow.

>>17023422
>not using your favorites

I'd use a bigger CVL if I needed to, but I already get AS with this.
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>buying slots for the equipment space

So it's come to this.
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>>17023522
It's time to get rid of those jelly donuts.
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>>17023500
Shouhou > Zuihou
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Will the next event going to be hard? I want something that could bleed my anus again.
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>>17023670

Summer event is always the hardest.
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>>17023702
Not last year.
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>>17023702
Tanaka has been catering his events to newfags lately, so no.
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So what's that white torpedo-looking thing with wings she's carrying?
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>>17023721
Paravane, it's used to destroy mines.
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This cunt won't stop dropping from E2, I want my Kunashiri already.
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>>17023738
In my case, Kongous and Kaga won't stop dropping until she came to me.
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>>17023745
Those and also Suzuya won't stop haunting me.
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>>17023721
Paravanes?
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>>17023707

Which event was the hardest last year?
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>>17023787
Spring.
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>>17023787
Spring. If no one had addressed how buggy it was, then nobody could have ever cleared the event.
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>>17023787
Bug filled Iowa one.
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>>17023787
Spring. It was unclearable before shit was fixed, and even after it was fixed it was still undeniably harder than the other three events, which were piss easy.
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>>17023799
>buggy
Nobody even found out about meme strikes until someone tried it out with just fighter-bombers in aerial support 3 days later.
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>>17023811
I think he's talking about E7.
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>>17023811>>17023816
E-6 was buggy too because the support expedition didn't work as intended.
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>>17023826
Yeah, but it was at least clearable even without it. E7 wasn't.
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>>17023838
Only lucky madmen were able to clear it. Were you forgetting DJ Hime, Henderson, and fucking pillboxes as fodders? That's almost impossible at first glance.
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>>17023838
Literally 1 person cleared E6 without support, the stream was hilarious though.
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>>17023852
I remember this. Yodo and Choukai MVP.
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>>17023852
Was it Yodo or Kasumin?
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>>17023852
At least one chink streamer did it too. One of them even got to last kill of E7 before LBAS was fixed.

Don't underestimate chinks, some of them are part of summer 2015's Big Seven.
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>>17023859
I think only Ooyodo and Choukai were the only ones who targeted the boss.
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>>17023852
Some people still managed to kill her when the support ended up being shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMiQgH5BVMU
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>>17023896
>torpedo bombers
>>
>Red planes useful last spring
>Red planes useful this spring.
Is Spring when dive bombers become great?
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>>17023908
>dive bombers are only good when it gets bonus damage
Just fucking make them less shit already.
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>>17023908
Tell me when they stop getting wiped by Tsu.
>>
Autumn will be this year's hard event. Cap this.
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>>17023896
>Boss can't be targeted by torpedos because it's on land.
>Boss can do torpedo attacks.
This will never fail to make me mad, piece of shit disabling my killers.
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>>17023932
It's going to be a collab with Strike Witches.
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>>17023933
>Dive bombers get bonus against boss
>Carriers with dive bombers can't shell boss.
I would be mad if I didn't get a meme strike
>>
The music this event felt pretty lackluster. I want the wailing girls and electric guitars back.
>>
Could there ever be an autopilot button for Expeditions?
I want my ships to be able refuel,run the expedition, and return without me having to do it myself. I think it would be nice on just the expeditions and everything else would be run by you of course.
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>>17023953
But there's already an autopilot option for expeditions.
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>>17023896
>That Akizuki
My god. This will probably going to be my composition when I fight against Panama.
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>>17023466
And yet many newfags still clear them on easy modo. If they were truly extra and the devs truly did not expect them to clear them even on easy, they would be much harder than they are now, and they would not give ships as rewards.
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>>17023967
You mean you didn't do that for Lycoris and 6-4?
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>>17023977
>and they would not give ships as rewards.
No one would do them if they did that.
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>>17023787
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>>17023992
>E-4
>hard
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>>17023988
They will if the equipment rewards are good enough.
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>>17023992
God, that map was so fucking cancerous.
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>>17023958
Where?
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>>17023985
Did you forget about the two Ru? Hence the DDs should have prioritized them, and your CAV should have prioritized the kill.
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>>17023992
I cheated and did it on kusodium since I already have model34 plane.
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>>17023992
Nice, I almost forgot about that. Repair Goddess = MVP
>>
>>17024010
I used this >>17018678
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>>17022674
You fucking moron, why would putting a torp there do any better than a drum? You think turning your attacks into a hybrid cut in would be better than having a double attack? You're no better than wikia.
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>>17024009
How would one go about finding a way to AUTOmate KANCOLLE, I wonder?
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>>17024028
He's just baiting. Don't bother giving him another (You).
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>>17024031
>KANCOLLE
I don't know any game by that name
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>>17024036
And people complain how wikia and KC3 are shit, even though there are always people here acting like morons.

Although I agree that anything Death Usagi touches will turn into shit.
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>>17024045
>And people complain how wikia and KC3 are shi
But they are.
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>>17024048
You're shit
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>>17024054
Fuck off wikiashitter.
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>>17023953

https://github.com/mrmin123/kancolle-auto
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>>17023462
if it gives rewards that can't be obtained otherwise it's not actually extra, and even if people claim that they would still do it just for the challenge we all know that's never true.
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>>17024057
Says the one who tells people to equip torpedoes together with 2 main guns. Thats Death Usagi level of stupidity. Fuck off.
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>>17024078
I didn't tell him to equip torpedoes you fucking retard.
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>>17023942
so we'll get a mio fairy before an actual sakai one?
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>>17024076
You know as well as I do that most newfags can't care less about the equipment. They only care about the ships. More experienced players would treat EOs the same way.
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>>17024088
these are the same kind of casuals that praise rpgs for having hundreds of side quests but then get bored after only doing 10-20 and skip the rest. neurotypicals like that should just be ignored.
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>>17024095
The thing is said neurotypicals make up the vast majority of newfags and casuals.
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>>17024100
Substantiate your claims.
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>>17024084
>STILL no Zero 21 Sakai
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>>17024114
Obvious bot/cheater.
Not having any memedal is a red flag for a new account.
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>>17024147
>Tawi Tawi
>new account
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>>17024147
You can make it into resources you know.
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>>17024114
It's easy to get with that points with 5-4 sub rotation.
>>
What is easier for E5 LD, kidou or suijou?
I've only tried suijou so far, and it feels like I can't win. Even if everything goes perfect in previous nodes, everybody is getting raped in boss node. Plus there's two deadweights in main fleet carrying only fighters.
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>>17024208
Kidou with route support is pretty awesome, though I felt dive bombers have 2 times more vulnerability to Tsu.
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>>17024208
It's the opposite, get fucked by Nu kai but the boss node isn't that bad. Also rip planes.
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>>17024215
>enter node with 20
>exit with 0
Fucking tsu, I swear.
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>>17024208
Kidou + support = ez mode
Took me only 6sorties to beat E5, it is that easy.
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>>17024208
Kidou.
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>>17024148
I am pretty sure you can create new account as long as the servers have space. You can see plenty of people with 2016 account date on the old servers.
>>
https://exhentai.org/g/1059911/cececc88cf/

Here it is.
>>
So can the new escorts equip ASW on the expansion slots or was it just bullshit?
>>
>>17024242
Pretty sure I read this already long ago.
>>
>>17024244
>So can the new escorts equip ASW on the expansion slots
Depth Charges.
>>
>>
I am the only one who is bothered with what they did with the event tracks recently starting from Winter 2017? Usually tracks had proper ending and didn't end abruptly, but now they suddenly end and start again instantly, creating
an ugly loop.
Just why? Is this how they decided to solve the problem of creating music for a very long boss fights? Then just create a never-ending track a la 2hu tracks, or bring back a proper ending.
>>
>>17024283
>creating an ugly loop.
Nigger it's not an ugly loop. In fact, this is far better than how you'd get a few seconds of silence because the battle was too long for the BGM.
>>
>>17024290
And because of that, tracks are hard to listen just by themselves. Who knows how long we need to wait for the album version of this event's soundtrack.
>>
>>17024316
>Who knows how long we need to wait for the album version of this event's soundtrack.
Are you dumb? You can rip the BGM without the lop from the API.
>>
>>17024318
Who said that loop is the real problem, it's just bothers me, instant ending without a proper one is what kills soundtrack for me.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtMMYTCfing

The 4th year has ended and they never did make a better BGM than Summer's. Both Springs had shit tier music.
>>
>>17024262
Cute
>>
I can't believe it's been four years already and there are some starters that still don't have kai ni remodels.
>>
>>17024362
More reason to scrap Shitbuki and Shitakumo.
>>
>>17024340
But this is wrong, all her bgm's are top tier, even for this event (but it's kinda lacking). Like I said, they can do what they want with the music, my only hope is album versions, which are probably never.
>>
>>17024340
This song has the same problem that the Midway one has in that only the first part is good. Meanwhile the Lycoris one is top tier.
>>
>>17024362
It took four years for the #1 ship to get a K2.
>>
>>17024371
On the plus side it means better equipment.
>>
>>17024377
Or no equipment at all.
>>
>>17024380
There's nothing she could be converted into.
>>
>>17024368
But we do get album versions.
>>
>>17024395
We do, but very rarely, I can't wait this long for some KanColle goodness.
>>
Where do you guys do your world 4 weekly?
It feels like every options has RNG routing bullshit.
>>
>>17024403
4-5 on the first week or if you need to farm for stuff from there. Skip them or go all subs otherwise.
>>
>>17024403
I don't do it
>>
>>17024403
I only do it every month.
6x 4--2 with subs
5x 4-5
1x 4-2 monthly quest
>>
>>17024403
It's not really worth the effort.
>>
>>17024382
BBV
>>
>>17024490
You have to be retarded to actually believe they'd turn Nagato into a BBV.
>>
>>17024495
What if they turn Nagato into a BBG
>>
>>17024208
Kidou with full support is laughably easy.
The entire map only took 13 sorties, just don't make the same mistake others do and only take DBs, take 1 DB per CV and fill the rest of the rest of the non-fighter slots with TBs.
>>
>>17024340
But I like song of this time.
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>>17024658
Great, another of Nonco's autistic.
>>
>>17024689
It's cute.
>>
>>17022982
logbook. Although that's only in code... they also coded SSV as CVS
>>
>>17024697
> they also coded SSV as CVS
I'm so confused.
>>
I finally used my dupes of ChiChis for modernization fodder due to lack of space. There won't be an event where we need 5 AVs right?
>>
>>17024823
No, but them being the only fast AVs was a niche.
>>
I see that the general is still going strong.

I used to play the game until after the Fall 2015 event, what's new since then? Did they implement jets yet? Gimmick DD kai 2s still a thing? Any Kai 3s yet? Any new cute ships since then? Has the meta changed or is it still chevron torpedo bomber nukes?
>>
>>17024832

Ah shit.
>>
I'm supposed to be farming E3 for drills-chan but I haven't sortied an event map in 4 days and I don't think I'm realistically going to get time to farm until like saturday. Should I just wait and farm then, or will I be pushing it in terms of time and clearing on ko?
>>
>>17024849
>jets
yes but they suck
>Kai 3
bismarck was around back then
>Any new cute ships
lol
>meta
what the fuck are you talking about
>>
>>17024849
>Did they implement jets yet?
Yes, and they are shit.

>Gimmick DD kai 2s still a thing?
Yes. And it extends to CLs now.

>Any Kai 3s yet?
Gangut Dva. Also Suzuya K4 the CVL.

>Any new cute ships since then?
If you mean semen demon then I-13 and I-14. Not sure you know about Kashima or not.

>Has the meta changed or is it still chevron torpedo bomber nukes?
LBAs is the new norm for events.
>>
>>17024869
>they are shit
You mean they are the shit
>>17024867
>they suck
You mean they are the suck
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>>17024823
You can safely scrap them right now.
6-3 and 6-4 are the map for Kamo. Commander frog is the best AV right now and you can make her go fast with a boiler. You only need 2 for the expedition quest.
>>
>>17024880
holy shit I forgot that they were jAVs
>>
>>17024869
>Kai 3s
>Gangut Dva
So, what are Ganguts Kai AND Kai 2?

>Suzuya K4 the CVL
Class changes don't count as Kai forms, because they are a separate ship class. Lest you call Chiyoda CVL K2 a K6.
>>
>>17024869
> Gangut Dva
It's her K2.
>>
>>17024849
The only huge meta change recently is historical botes getting huge damage buff during event. Last even you have shitkawa and friends doing nuke tier damage. This time you have beppu and friends doing huge damage.
>>
>>17024736
Aircraft carrying submarine I presume, although in that case they should've used CVSS. CVS is for a carrier that specialises in attacking submarines.

>>17024832
>fast AVs
That's historically inaccurate.
>>
>>17024909
Imo, the crosroads crew had a bigger dmg modifier than the current 5th fleet. Even Beppuus' 1.5 doesn't feel that high.
>>
>>17024849
Landbase Planes
Landbase Air support
Specific surface boss weakness
American ships
American planes
French ship
British ship
Opening ASW
Seaplane fighter
AA gun, Armor bulge can be equipped to Expansion slot
EO 6-5
Quarterly quests
Jets
3 slots SSVs
Cutin equipment for SS(V)
Turbine can be equipped in expasion slot
Assault LightCarrier
Escorts
Escort Carrier
Slow FastBB
>>
>>17024849
>jets
Yes. They aren't too good and eat up steel every time they enter a jet phase.

>gimmick kai 2s
Yeah. It's even given to new ships right off the bat these days.

>kai 3s
Other than reversible remodels, well, there's still only Bisko.

>cute ships
YMMV

>meta
Land based air squadrons giving aerial support for selected nodes, opening anti-submarine, certain ships doing postcap damage at the boss node (or certain equipment enabling said damage when equipped).

>>17024869
Dva is kai 2.
>>
>>17024927
> Slow FastBB
And a first real ruski ship. What a catch.
>>
>>17024867
>>17024869
>Jets suck
Well there goes that.
>Bisko still the only kai3
I guess they're taking their time with that
>Suzuya remodel and Nagato k2
Time to get back into the game. Should be easy to clear the event with 7 days left.
>>
>>17024933
>Should be easy to clear the event with 7 days left
OK, get your Landbase planes first.
>>
>>17024933
>Should be easy
You better hope you have the correct ships and a big stockpile. Plus land-based planes.
>>
>>17024940
>>17024938
I cleared Fall2015 in all hard mode so I have land based planes and have 100k of everything stockpiled. Unless branching requires new ships I can finish today.
>>
>>17024960
Protip: land based planes didn't exist until just before Spring 2016 started.
>>
>>17024960
>>17024963

Ayyy.
>>
>>17024960
You just need to waste some resources to craft teh shitty T1 land bombers. I think 6 should be enough.
>>
>>17024973
T96, not T1.
>>
Jesus christ, 3-5 right now is more cancerous than the event.
>>
>>17024963
>>17024966
>>17024973
Am I missing something?

I think I was confused as to what land-based planes are. Fuck.
>>
>>17024985
Welcome to hell.
>>
>>17024985
>please spoonfeed me everything in the past two years
>>
Going to do the quarterly quest that gives 350 points, and going to clear 6-4.

As I understand it from reading the installation info, basically you want to stack different types of equipment together for the multiplier bonus correct? So if I give my Ooshio a tank, and 2 WG42s, it would be much more effective than spreading said equipment out to my other DDs?
>>
>>17024992
Reading the wiki now, surely my outdated knowledge and fleet can still secure easy.
>>
>>17024922
Bep suffers from being a DD and thus even Sakawa has 20+ firepower on her when equipped, and can artillery spot for another 120% multiplier.
I would agree though, crossroads ships had between a 150%-200% post-cap multiplier, while we got a 120%-150% post-cap for this set.
>>
>>17025000
Hard for E1
Normal for E2 (hard if you can craft a lot of T96 bombers)
Normal or hard for E3 and E4
Easy for E5 (normal or hard if you can craft a lot of T96 bombers)

Have fun.
>>
>>17025010
>expecting LBAS to be the core factor anywhere outside E-4 this event
>>
>>17025016
For E4 you can just dump stock T97s into the land base.
>>
>>17024995
Depend on how many rockets you have now?
You cannot go wrong with the kamo squad.
>>
>>17025008
>150%-200% post-cap multiplier
I could've sworn it was higher than that.
>>
20k fuel, 20k ammo, 4k baux and the full gauge of E-5 second phase. Im thinking STF until last dance, or should I only stockpile and CTF for chipping as well? Im really scared Ill spend 5 days farming baux only to have it dissapear because of unlucky runs. And is LBAS even worth it for chipping if my planes are shit? Half the time im out 200 baux a squadron every sortie.
>>
>>17025175
Suijou is fine.
>>
>>17025175
Suijou is fine for chipping. Dont even need shell support, just 2 LBAS, 3rd on defense to protect resources and planes. May want to do kidou for last dance.
>>
https://twitter.com/aka_ringo/status/864101191969415168
Shibafu ttk still in E4
>>
>>17025350
>day clear on air phase
Nice.
>>
how is E5 getting worse and worse every run
>>
>>17025471
Fatigue.
>>
>>17025478
not even. i'm being sent back node by node because of random goddamn crits. farming is a real drag
>>
>>17025481

Just rest for a while. There is certain time of the day you might feel like RNG is against you.
>>
>>17025504
i suppose 3 AM is a good a time as ever. littorio can wait. or until my fuel hits 10k
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I want them to add Big Mamie and have her be a townie obsessed with the Sox. But that'll never happen.
>>
hahaha tanks are so useless! i feel bad for all the retards that wasted screws on tanks lmao
>>
>>17025528
>3am
>at 2:29am
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>>17025576
it was meant as a stopping point
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>>17025543
>Claims it gives the same benefits as any other installation killing equipment
>People tested it and claim it works well with a combination of the others like Type 3 and WG
>Tanaka continuously makes Installation Bosses that don't get affected by it
He is such an asshole and its hilarious.
>>
>>17025543
>>17025603
I'm still curious about how the land battles work. Just look these badass fairies, I wonder what and how they fight.
>>
>>17025540
We have Prinz for that.
>>
>>17023707
Or the first year.
>>
Etorofu is doing a good job on her first day!
>>
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>>17025705
Why is there a 2hu in canthis?
>>
>E4
>Ro sustains 0 damage at node C
>Normally benign node E chuuha's Tone
>Useless at boss now - deals 1 digit damage

>Ro taiha at node C
>No worries mate let me activate my damecon
>Chikuma taiha at node H

>All crucial ships reach boss in perfect health
>Chikuma and Tone in the green
>Ro not taiha
>All armoured carriers usable
>YASEN
>Chikuma whittles boss down to 200 hp
>YOSH, DEKIRU.
>Boss snipes Tone

You told me this map would be fun /jp/. Is there anything else I should know about your idea of fun? Be honest with me for E5.
>>
Need more Mamiko Noto boat.
>>
>>17025656
>Isolated Hime Womb Infiltration Squad
>>
>>17025751
So, Fairies are semen?
>>
>>17025778
>seamen
>>
>>17025656
Me on the top right
>>
>>17025656
Same way an infantry squad would fight a giant abyssal
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>>17025115
More like around 250%-300%.
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This is at the start of the shelling. I don't understand how can they even.
>>
I got a bunch of Mikuma's from E-1 and want those numbers 3s, what is the quickest way to level them up?
>>
>>17025820
>one meatshield and DD hag dead

That should be a guaranteed win unless everyone misses trying to hit the Tsu or something.
>>
>>17025719
Hien model 1D/Nanoka/T1 model 34/T1 model 34
to C and boss
Hien 224/Jet/Jet/Ginga
to boss and boss
Saiun/Hien 1D/Hien/Hayabusa
for defense

Suzuya 20.3(3)*/20.3(3)*/T3shell/rocket
4CV full of torp planes/ 5-6 green planes with Airpower to 380-400/ 1 Saiun
SSV Night recon
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>>17025820
>useless hotels
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>>17025843
I know, I don't even. No plane activation, KTKM didn't cut-in with 51 luck and starshell activated. Kasumin's cut-in did 130 damage.
>>
>>17025839
pvp and a couple of 5-4 runs worked for me
>>
>>17025540
I want her so we can have a proper Yankee; Maya is good but she's a fake.
>>
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>>17024244
Nope. Just AA guns, damecons and riceballs here.
>>
>>17025884
Did you try it with new depth charges?
>>
>>17025855
Why did you not bring Bep and Ooi?
>>
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>going to farm transports and Maruyu
>Maruyu is the first drop
Nice
>>
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>>17025855
And the fucking cunt didn't cut-in again. 200hp. Epic. Truly epic.
>>17025888
I had them during chipping and they didn't do anything. Not that Kuso does anything either, despite her bonus.
>>
>>17025909
My Bep did 150, 150 every time. She did even more damage than Kiso ever did.
>>
>>17025887
Yes, they don't show up. Where did it even say they can equip them?
>>
Go full p2w, likely to get daytime kill.
>>
>>17025917
>Where did it even say they can equip them?
Some guy whose dad works for Tanaka.
>>
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>>17025909
>doubting beppu
She is clutch
>>
>>17025944

Sausage Kuso
>>
>>17025909
>>17025855
>cut-in
Why bother.

Take a DD that can actually do damage instead of Duck. Ooi is also better than Nachi even with the bonus.
>>
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>>17025909
>being so shit even meganefag does it with half a gimped fleet
>being so shit even Konishi beat it
>>
Chipping E5 was pretty comfy, I don't want to do last dance
>>
>>17026015
Yeah. I'm pretty much waiting for a good LBAS or/and Green T.
>>
40 E-2 Amagi farming runs

1 Maruyu.

Should I just give up on Amagi and go after Kamoi at E-3?
>>
>>17026045
>only 40
I'm 77 runs in and I'm looking for a Maruyu.
>>
>>17026045
You are farming a non-boss node, that's the worst thing you can do.
>>
>get Green t at boss
>left with 400 hp
>1 chuuha, rest are fine
>yasen
>Nachi eats a cutin
>everyone else does DA for 30-50 damg per attack (debuff+ship bonuses, right...)
>left with 40 hp that Nachi could have easily chipped away if she survived
I'm feeling so much pain right now. Especially how the next boss green T will happen never.
>>
Am I the only retard who hasn't gotten Kamoi yet?
20 S rank runs with 5% drop chance and she hasn't shown up yet.
>>
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>>17026165
Don't give up anon.
>>
>>17026165
It took around 20 runs for me to get her at E-3, that damn Shimushu still hasn't dropped around 40.
>>
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What should I do with my Houshou? I don't want her gone but I don't need her. She's the weakest CVL I have if it wasn't for my Chitose. Would she be good as a ship who can expeditions and 1-5 runs with my DDs who need leveling?
>>
>>17026206
Buy slots.
>>
>>17026206
Just scrap her you autist
>>
>>17026206
Feed her to another boat for +1 AA
>>
>>17026206
Remember that she's needed for skilled crew quests.
>>
>>17026247
Just grab her from 1-5 when doing your 1-5 weekly and monthly.
>>
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>>17026219

>>17026223
>>17026229
No.
>>17026247
Ok.
>>
>>17026265
Wha-what? Are you in a shithole that even 1000 yen is too much?
>>
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>>17025988
Don't forget the guy Akashi guy
>>
>>17026146
Just came across a similar situation, yet it happened with parallel. Yasen and everyone does really crap damage.
And then fucking MVP Kasumi does DA for 350 dmg. Holy shit i love this Tsundere. (sorry, no rings though).
>>
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I was bracing myself for 100 runs of farming but got her in my first try. Thank goodness I didn't fall for the final map farming last event.
>>
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>>17026146
P2W like this.
>>
Do I scrap Hagi or Ham?
>>
>>17026328
Get a job you disgusting fat neet piece of shit and buy slots. Work 5 hours at McDonalds and quit after you cuck.
>>
>>17026328
No.
>>
>>17026337
I'm not wasting money just to keep shitters.
>>
>>17026328
Ham
>>
>>17026328
Neither, you care for both.
>>
>>17026342
I'm might sound retarded, but you should.
>>
>>
>>17026356
I already scrapped Hagikaze.
>>
>>17026370
You should've scrapped the other one instead, she's more useless and much easier to get.
>>
>>17026342
Then scrap both?
>>
Is there a suijou farming fleet composition for E5 post-clear? I'm hemorrhaging bauxite.
>>
>>17026424
Really not worth it.
>>
>>17026424
Sorry man, you should have farmed on easy before clearing if you wanted the pasta BBs. It sucks but it just isn't worth it after clearing. Blame Tanaka being a retard and fucking up routing once you clear it.
>>
>>17026432
>implying the routing change wasn't intended
>>
>>17026428
>>17026432
>not worth it
That's what I thought the last time. Had wait a year until Littorio came back. I won't be satisfied unless I give it my all.
>>
>>17022474
what would be other good suffixes in place of Kai Bo? Kai Tender?
>>
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Hey, first try.
>>
>>17026328
Ham because she sounds like an old hag.
>>
>>17026451
I went in kidou and got her in 2 runs post clear. Maybe her rate for people who don't have her is actually good. Or I should just explode or whatever. Suijou with these routing conditions would probably be shit anyway.
>>
>>17026499
Kai Mother
>>
>>17025975
Ooi is also better than Nachi
But then he doesn't have anything that can carry the yasen plane.
>>
>>17026552
Abukuma
>>
Dumb question as a techno-illiterate

Could a viewer pick up passwords and other sensitive information or am I being paranoid?
>>
>>17026712
KC3 can
>>
>>17026499
That or Hayasui Kai AV. Which is still odd, because she's classed as a fleet boiler on Kai Bo in game even though she became a flying boat tender (preceding Akitsushima) in real life.
>>
>>17026097

Fine, Kamoi it is. Hello E-3 TP phase boss node.
>>
>>17026725
I meant Kamoi Kai AV, of course.
>>
>>17026712
Are you asking about non-boatgirls info like bank account?

Depends on which viewer you are using.
Standalones like KCV probably won't unless you are using them as your browser.
KC3 might since it is linked to chrome.
>>
>>17026676
Well, I suppose her damage isn't that great so losing DA shouldn't be too hampering.
>>
I somehow managed to sparkle Yukikaze to 86 morale at 1-1, and I still have no idea how the fuck it happened.
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