AKB General 993

>>17008687
Thanks. For a moment there I thought I might have to make one.

>>17008691
perfect length to pull

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_Rira_Miyazato

Post anon's little sister

>>17008711
>tfw you have a picture of anon's sister in your hard drive

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>>17008711

for your delectation: https://www.showroom-live.com/48_SUGAHARA_RIKO

>>17008717
>tfw it's also preserved in the archive for eternity

>>17008721
OHHHHH.... that anon.
i thought the other one

Would Ikumin make a good gf

>>17008721
Ohori Megumi has a daughter?

>>17008728
where is negai? are they already bulling her?

>>17008729
I have a strong feeling that Ikumin is rezu. But if not, absolutely.

>>17008731
like 2?

>>17008731
https://twitter.com/ohori_megumi

>>17008710
I thought I was the only one here who cared about her.

>>17008751
I hope Mogi's doing fine. She looks drunk.

>>17008741
I'm pretty sure you're right. I just want to do bf/gf stuff with her.

>>17008736
Ask BLT editor

>>17008687
You stupid motherfucker.

>>17008756
Does she ever not.

>>17008729
>>17008757
>ikumin as your gf
>she promised to stay loyal with you
>go home
>enter room
>ikumin doing it with another girl
>"sorry anon! b-but... you could join us if you want"
wat do

>>17008771
>leaves
>calls honda
>fucks honda

>>17008771
Who's the other girl? I'm joining either way.

>>17008771
Depends on the other girl tbqh

>>17008756
She had a drinking problem BEFORE her dad died. Imagine how bad it is now.

>>17008773
Most likely J

>>17008772
i imagine her as a hardcore dirty talker like "CALL ME YOUR BITCH CALL ME YOUR BITCH" then slaps you "I SAID CALL ME YOUR FUCKING BITCH"

>>17008777
My statement stands.

>>17008778
Whoa I never thought of this.

>>17008771
Better question is.. are you a cuck or not?

>>17008219
Thanks for reuploading this.

>>17008778
I like this idea.

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>>17008717
No I mean anon from the last thread

>>17008795
left

>>17008748
what made you think that?

>>17008800
I've posted her a few times over the past couple years and the only (You)s I've ever gotten were about how ugly they think she is.

Ikoma's on Channel 4 if anyone here is in Japan and likes her.

>>17008795
Satone is the cutest loli.

>>17008802
there have been posts saying the opposite.

do you skip threads?

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>Your item has been ordered, awaiting for arrival.
Fucking YES!

Thumbnail Stage Setlist

M00. overture
M01. Get you! (Kashiwagi Yuki & Muto Tomu)
M02. Aokusai Rock (Kojima Mako)
M03. Runner's High (Yokoyama Yui)
M04. Kuchibiru ni Be My Baby (Minegishi Minami)

MC1. Self-introductions

M05. Coin Toss (Kashiwagi Yuki)
M06. Subete wa Tochuu Keika (Takahashi Juri (c), Sasaki Yukari, Kojima Mako, Kato Rena, Kawamoto Saya)
M07. Ayamachi (Okada Nana, Yokoyama Yui)
M08. Hibiwareta Kagami (Muto Tomu (c), Mogi Shinobu, Minegishi Minami, Kuranoo Narumi, Iwatate Saho)
M09. Bucket (Mukaichi Mion (c), Iriyama Anna, Komiyama Haruka)

MC2.

M10. Dare ga watashi wo nakaseta? (Kashiwagi Yuki & Yokoyama Yui)
M11. Dakara kimi ga sukinanoka (Komiyama Haruka)
M12. LOVE TRIP (Kashiwagi Yuki)

MC3.

M13. Ano hi no jibun (Kashiwagi Yuki, Muto Tomu)


ENCORE
EN1. Tanjoubi TANGO (Okada Nana)
EN2. Kimi wa Melody (Iriyama Anna)

MC4.

EN3. Negaigoto wo Mochigasure (Okada Nana, Mukaichi Mion)

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>>17008818
Glad you got it sorted.

>>17008803
She speaks and acts like a 60 year old woman.

>rika and hinata sharing a room
These are the best streams.

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>>17008778
w-whats Naru like anon?

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Our thicc queen ladies and gents.

>>17008835
I like eyebrows that are flat like that.

Skydive debuting now!

>>17008833
well.. they meme her as an empress so i guess naru likes degrading you and forcing you to wear sissy dresses where she forcefully tells you to say that you're only purpose in life is to give her pleasure.

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>Team 8 unpublished mini gravure Photobook
>Nagi, Yokoyui, Hijirin, Yuiyui, Kurenyan, Ikumin, Gyouten, and Naru
>20 pages of said gravure

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgMGv8BUsck

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Skydive <Senbatsu unit>
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/862996155323490305/pu/vid/600x360/UOoBxTplMGP12-Un.mp4

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>>17008844
go on anon

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>>17008857
Motherfucker.

>>17008858
oh man you got me excited. i thought you meant they went skydiving for their single hit campaign

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>>17008850

>>17008851
Hnnnng

>>17008859
cant do it with yuiyui. idk, she seems... normal.
so i guess she's one of those "missionary sex only" people.

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_Yuna_Hattori

>>17008851
Miichan could take me in a fight.

>>17008875
Shit, why did I already fap earlier.

>>17008814
>>17008817
This is my loli princess.

https://www.showroom-live.com/iwasamisaki0130

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_Serika_Nagano
DWEEB

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>>17008871
how about this one?

>>17008890
At least the uniform looks good!

>>17008890
Every one of them is beautiful.

>>17008885
Cute. Half suppin.

>>17008833
I feel like she would suck and fuck even harder and lewder because she hates to lose, especially if Yuiyui is going hard.

>>17008890
くすぐり拷問

>>17008890
Naru looks the most appealing by far

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>>17008890
>those yuihan calves
>that thicc naru

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Happy KTK day you nerds

>>17008890
Minegishi's graduation is overdue

>>17008913
So is your graduation from this thread.

>>17008911
ペロペロ

>>17008889
i already posted one about her before altho not about sex.
berin looks like the girl who falls so hard to a guy that she basically doesn't care if he is physically/sexually abusing her. where even her friends and family are telling her to break up with him, she just retaliates with "i cant leave him, love him too much". even if you go whiteknight and try to save her she'll just get angry at you and tell you to leave her alone.

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Yunana has another gravure coming out

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_Kurena_Cho
Birthday stream.

>>17008913
persona is immortal

>>17008931
Excellent

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_SEIJI_REINA
https://www.showroom-live.com/48_HASEGAWA_RENA
my girls

>>17008931
THIS IS NOT OK

>>17008932
m-maid outfit?

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>>17008941
It's not lewd yet

>>17008931
I'm looking forward to everyone hating her after you've spammed her gravure enough times.

>>17008932
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>17008941
she is not showing her flabby body anyways
give me those (You)s

FUCK YEAH KKK WILL PERFORM AT ROCK IN JAPAN FES 2017

imagine them forming a record breaking daisy chain.

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>>17008952
you earned it bro

>>17008952
Her belly flab was cute

>>17008957
;_;

>>17008953
Nice

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Thread atmosphere does not seem good today.

I wonder if today is a holiday somewhere.

>>17008957
>ywn rest your head on that tummy

;_;

>>17008962
why you even upset? this flabby bitch fucked naachan

Who the fuck put banana on Cho's cake?

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>>17008965
Something to cheer things up.

>>17008975
Papa bought it?

>>17008975
The ultimate memester.

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>>17008873
That costume was strange.
http://imgur.com/a/Skee2

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thicc

>>17008983
i want to prod them

>sugawara has been shilling lawson for 5 min

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T H I C C

Does anybody here remembers tortilla-kun?

Okay, those birthday gifts from the staff were pretty cute.

I haven't bothered to drop 495 stars on anyone in awhile but Cho is worth it.

>>17008988
>>17008992
Poor man's Saito Makiko

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T H I C C C C C C C

>fender
>team8

>>17008996
>hoarding kompeitos
are you retard?

>>17008903
Hat chara STU absolutely devastated.

>>17008996
I really hate the noise it makes.

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Cho got a custom pick.

>>17008931
stahp ;_; she has the body of a little kid

Just got home. Are you guys seeing this Cho?

>>17009007
Gravure doesn't mean mizugi gravure. The PB parts were the best bit from the YG gravure

>>17008992
remember when she was our anorexic eito last year?

>>17009016
kumamoto earthquake mang
PTSD

>>17009006
What she needs is better lighting.

>>17009025
Who has the best smile and why is it Tomu ?

>>17009024
That's my girl lads

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Settei Ondo <All members>
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/863006742401040384/pu/vid/436x360/3i8pyagxX99moqhR.mp4

>>17009031
Posting from heaven, I assume?

>>17009013
It's physically painful how cute she is.

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>>17009033
Better quality and longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxSSi7mgoc

>>17009026
our girls.

watch cho or watch fu?

>>17009043
How about you go fu cho self.

>>17009038
>>17009033
Finally a decent song from the album, but still not great. Influencer b sides spoiled me.

>>17009043
If you even have to ask just watch fu or whatever. You're not worthy.

Cho is too much

Fu looks surprisingly cute in motion.

>>17009013
>>17009035
I never knew it was possible for a girl to be this cute

>>17009050
I made 400 screenshots.

>10 towers
>high touch
W-WHAT WILL I GET FOR A H-HUNDRED CHO
I NEED TO KNOW

Watching a former idol like kanako playing vidya games is better than I thought. We need more idols opening up a gaming channel. Free money right there Aki-p.

>>17009058
Post them

>gibson

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Guitar-kun check it!

>>17009051
Fuck off Yuuto

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The pinnacle of Japanese beauty.

Man, Cho in that outfit

HOLY FCKING SHIT! SHE REALLY DID BUY THE $3,300 GIBSON J-45 GUITAR! THE ABSOLUTE MADWOMAN

wtf that guitar is expensive as shit

Please keep it on your twitter, Philippines Cho spammer.

https://twitter.com/distorted_ghie

>>17009085
>3 followers you know
WAT DE FUK

>>17009087
Didn't she graduate?

>>17009081
>>17009082

Sasuga fukui hime

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>>17009034
I shouldn't have but I kek'd. She is the light of my life nonetheless

>hiro guy dropped another 10 towers

>>17009108
Why are you telling us?

How many towers is that total? I can't even begin to count.

>>17009110
urayamashii desu

>>17009110
So you have something to seethe about.

I fucking love Sugawara

>>17009068
>Gibson
>not a sophisticated guitar like Martin
Fucking dropped. Should've gotten an OM Martin instead.

>>17009114
She has 33 if I counted right.

>>17009082
Let's be honest, there is no amount I wouldn't spend on that girl.

>birthday
>streaming for 40min
>only 10k viewers
So this is the power of Team 8.

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>>17009085
Goddammit stop shilling my twitter

>>17009129
I just wanted to show everyone the garbage that is shitting up the thread. It's a stereotype for a reason.

>>17009085
It's hard to believe a Chobro would post that panchira trash.

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Our girl is so hot

>>17009142
She is indeed. But that's not her.

>>17009134
It's really not. He's the type of person who is behind a lot of shitposts (Edgy "KKK" posts, spamming "fire", haruppi, cho, etc). You may think "one person can't be responsible for making all these shitposts", but it's true and he really is SEA.

>you now remember hiwatan's measly single birthday tower

ITS SAD, SO SAD, ITS A SAD SAD SITUATION

>>17009145
>spamming "fire"
Except he's not.

>>17009142
That's not our girl.

>>17009149
He is the person who insists on calling Kitano "fire".

>>17009147
That's pretty bad if true.

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Cho nooo!

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Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

>>17009145
>>17009153
The Fire thing has never been and never will be anywhere near as big as you make it out to be. Something so inconsequential is completely reliant on the reactions it gets, unlike a scandal that writes itself.

>>17009163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP4_0z2M85Q

>>17009163
I feel bad for you if you really think the only purpose for women is holes to fuck. Sex isn't even that great.

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>>17009153
I'm sorry to break this to you, anon, but there are actually several people here who call her "Fire". And honestly I really don't understand why you get so worked up about it. It's just a cute nickname that she herself invented.

>>17009163
You're absolutely right. And yet at the same time I would hate to raise a son. What a world...

>>17009171
It's a copy pasta.

>>17009120
>>17009081
I'm so jelly. Hell even sayanee just got a gibson lp last year.

>>17009142
Lovely

>>17009145
>it's another "everyone I don't like is the same guy" episode

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>今日の公演の髪型テーマは昔の黒歴史な髪型や恥ずかしい髪型

>KKK
Do people honestly get mad at this abbreviation? Do they really think everyone using shorthand is trying to be edgy relating them to the fucking Ku Klux Klan?

>>17009181
nice damage control, 8 mins late tho

cho always reminds me of 後藤 まりこ everytime i see her

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>>17009163
People make fun of this copypasta, but it makes perfect sense to me

>>17009181
His twitter literally proves that is true though.

>>17009184
It's not because of the abbreviation, it's because of the posters who abbreviate it as such. If you hadn't noticed, majority of them are edgy shitposters.

>>17009184
I doubt anybody outside this thread even uses it.

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raising your daughter like a son > raising a son > raising a daughter > raising a son who wants to be your daughter >>> daughter gf

>>17009184
Literally no one here minds it

Outside of 4chan, maybe

>>17009194
Hahaha. Sakura's mom is hotter than her.

>>17009186
WE GET IT

I bet Cuca is so insufferable and self-entitled when in private. I bet that while other STUs do their training routine, she often complains how she wouldn't have to do this and that if she were in H!P and constantly asks for a break by appealing to her past as a Youtube dancer.
Eventually, even Naachan's infinite patience would wear thin and she would step up and walk toward Cuca to deliver a single angry slap across her face, right in the middle of the lesson room while everyone else is watching.
Without giving Cuca a second to recover, she would grab her cheeks and pull face toward hers to give her a long deep kiss, eyes closed and keeping her still by grabbing her wirst.
After what would seem an eternity, she would release her mouth from Cuca, who would be left almost breathless. While still keeping a stern countenance, Naachan would look straight into Cuca eyes and with a firm, unfaltering voice she would give her one final rebuke. "Next time I hear you say something like that, I won't go down as gently. I'll push all three fingers in. This is a promise", she would then walk back to the corner of the room and order the lesson to resume.

>>17009177
To top it all off, she can't even play guitar that good. And here I am stucked with a shitty squier and a multi-effects pedal.

>>17009197
I prefer kek, personally. More descriptive of the group and their fans.

>>17009195
That hair movement says a lot.

>>17009202
raising Boruto > all the above

anroke time

>>17009210
K and E are too far away from each other when I could just smash the same key a few times instead

>>17009203
I think a lot of people here take the people who use it less serious. I usually just scroll past those posts.

>>17009219
if you use two fingers, your left hand can hit the e while your right is releasing the first k.

>>17009177
But man she should have bought atleast cutaway body, dreadnaught are ugly

>>17009209
why not buy an epi?

>>17009184
People get bent out of shape for the smallest things. If I say KKK in regards to them it's because it's KeyaKizaKa46 and I am not typing that out every time. Keya is acceptable as well, anything more is too much work.

>>17009026
They're a dream come true.

>>17009229
If I were to get a new guitar it'd be a fender strat, probably a clapton sig, I'm not into gibson/epi guitar shapes.

>>17009208
Sorry anon but we've already moved past the "Cuca is a bitch" phase

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RIP international fans. This will probably be the standard going forward.

>>17009241
She is a bitch. Have you watched any of her streams? She literally said "tbqh i hated my nickname(cuca) but everyone started calling me cuca so i stuck with it" on her stream.

>>17009202
Gayest post ever?

>>17009209
Same here mate, i've got an epi LP and a vox vtx amp.
I want a nice accoustic tho.
Also the other day saw one of those musicman jp majestic, holy fuck those are from another planet.

>>17009243
gravy can't come soon enough

>>17009243
Oh my fuck

>>17009245
That came from her family ages ago, though. What she said is fine in that context.

>>17009244
「kek」

>>17009247
you don't remember that mustache post?

>>17009196
>His twitter literally proves that is true though.

It doesn't prove that he's responsible for every single post of that kind Sherlock.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/863019149508853760/pu/vid/720x720/gTS1dmOPYxrBdr5w.mp4
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/863018887541018625/pu/vid/720x720/ea-OzmDztFnG5Stc.mp4
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/863018382135672832/pu/vid/720x720/FZmJvNyMtshQmEjA.mp4

>>17009231
Keyakis and nogis. Not that it really bothers me. Reminds me of people getting upset over NGZ.

>>17009244
I don't see the issue

In which episode does gotou-san gets the martin co guitar?

>>17009260
Nao is heartwarmingly lovable.

>>17009244
46 was never for foreigners

>>17009260
404 anon :(

>>17009208
>all three fingers

>>17009269
NGZ makes sense because this is how Japs write acronyms, by using the initials of each kanji. KKK is just an edgy forced meme that never caught on and it's only annoying as fuck, knowing the ignorance of those who insist on forcing it.

>>17009279
works fine, it's only YOU

>>17008873
kawaii overload

>>17009279
use wget or curl

>>17009243
Do you think she knows what she's doing?

>>17009195
I wonder if Goto's new favorite will have the same fate...

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_MORI_KAHO
https://www.showroom-live.com/48_NAKAI_RIKA

>>17009245
>Have you watched any of her streams?

I watched her two days ago. At least in that one she was funny, engaging and answered a ton of questions from chat. She also does her dance covers on stream.

>>17009283
Have you tried *not* being annoyed by everything under the sun?

>>17009270
It makes it impossible for foreign fans to see 46 since you need to show a passport and verify that you live in Japan.

>>17009260
Based Churi reading my posts in the last thread

>>17009241
Yeah, now we don't event bother about her annoying existence.

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>>17009186
>rurina posting
literally the best time of day.

>>17009289
Goto will go back to Tani

>>17009299
If a STU suddenly changes her personality we will know that Sasshi is his loli dealear.

>>17009244
What are you guys seeing here that I'm not? That they're checking IDs? Because that picture on the right of his sign is of a passport, which I would hope you have if you're a tourist in Japan. ID has always been required for these things...

>>17009293
Keyaki wotas are trying everyone's patience, not just mine desu

>>17009298
too bad she is fat now, can't compete with my 東京B少年

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>>17009314
>fat
She's thicc. Not fat. Only Rachel is fat.

>>17009310
>Sees how his plastic monster oshi returns fat and with even more plastic in her face
>Starts to calls keyakis FAT as a decoy
>No one follows along his meme
>Get mad at keyakis

Pure gold.

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>>17009321
>Only Rachel is fat.
no, Nakano is fit, you are fat just like RURINA

>>17009291
>https://www.showroom-live.com/48_MORI_KAHO

Why pay her attention, that patrol anon from stage makes sure that her showroom stays boring and irrelevant.

>>17009326
>Greentexting your projecting fantasies to reassure yourself it's all a single person's doing

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>>17009331
>it's 2015 again
m8

>>17009325
>パスポート
Yeah, so remind me again how this is "RIP international fans"?

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She stole the show

Such a bright future ahead of her!

>>17009341
t.l-leave Fatruppi alone!

https://stat.7gogo.jp/appimg_images/20141011/18/7e/b3/p/t02400240p.png
Our girl.

>>17009081
I got curious about the price and checked online, damn they cost 2k+ up to 3.5k dollars wtf? Did her dad bought it or she did?

>>17009349
fug she's so cool

>>17009345
it will always be 2015 in my heart

>>17009346
Ignore "broadcasting incident" EOP-kun

>>17009349
So edgy, back to 2000

>>17009353

I love Neru

>>17009349
didn't she get killed offscreen?

>>17009353
So sad she is not competing on this year SSK...

>>17009358
What the fuck is "broadcasting incident"?

https://www.showroom-live.com/48_OGINO_YUKA
B E S T
E
S
T

C O M B I
O
M
B
I

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Are they friends again?

>>17009331
Wow... What fucking happened?

>>17009372
>friends
like in "we have to respect the love ban but we are also teens" kind of friendship?

>>17009372
yes, because Honda got ugly

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>>17008987
Added abematimes and natalie music photos >>17009135 to the album

>>17009370
the pillowtrade at backstage was longer than expected.

>>17009352
That's not how the t. meme works either, btw. You are a fucking mess, go to sleep instead of hallucinating imaginary enemies.

>>17009374
puberty is a bitch

>>17009061
her channel?

>>17009376
Essentially this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn76TWMgPoE
LOOK AT THE COMMENT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17009389
>>17009376
Damn, well, more Honda for me then. I want her bad.

>>17009341
Ironic post considering you're responding to someone ELSE who sees the shitposter for what he is. No one here said Philippines spammer was the only person making those posts.

>>17009385
>Replying to an obvious bait.
Sure anon, that wasn't you. Winku Winku.

>>17009390
Did you just discover this now?

>>17009396
I did not say I would not fuck those futomomos

>>17009398
The greentexter didn't, but this guy did >>17009145
>You may think "one person can't be responsible for making all these shitposts", but it's true and he really is SEA.

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>>17009384

>>17009390
what does it say?

>>17009407
I didn't imply he made every single post. That would be a ridiculous statement. Just that he is a person who spams all those memes.

>>17009404
http://stu4846.livedoor.biz/archives/1768254.html

You're late to the party. Also I'm not sure what's so funny about that.

>>17009411
GOAT

>>17009411
Thanks anon.

>>17009411
I love Cho with all my heart.

>>17009384
Tani is smoking hot, but it kinda ruins it a bit if you've seen the video and know that she just spent 10min in the bathroom taking a shit when she comes back shaking her ass.

Gatapii is nubile

>>17009407
>>17009419
>mfw I'm not any of those anons and my rare greentext was a success

>>17009390
Is this the center?

>>17009439
No. This is lewd pajama girl.

>>17009439
Wasn't the center revealed to have a boyfriend or was that a different person? Still center after that?

>>17009436
don't get uppity greentext-kun

>>17009434
A totally normal behavior ruins all that deliciousness for you? FYI Idols don't fart butterflies, m8.

>>17009445
That was Fu. She's not the center.

>>17009445
Even Kahotaru have a boyfriend and she cover it up with "I mistook the train for 56th time but I'm sleeping in a karaoke thing tonight, fans-kuns"

>>17009384
I want a new Ebi only to see her wearing a bikini in full survival mode on the wild.

>>17009244
>>17009277
>46 is now for japanese citizens only
kkk is living up to the meme it seems

>>17009454
>broken-english-kun slandering again

>>17009447
Of course I don't believe that but.. It shows before and after she went to the bathroom. She spent a long time in there, so you just know it was a mess. It's hard not to think about her "struggle" when she comes out wiggling her ass like that.

>>17009464
t.we are 4 anons total-kun

>>17009461
>now

It was always like this.

>>17009349
What is this??

>>17009384
Haven't blown a fat load to her in a while and it's time to remedy that.

>>17009454
"Natural airhead, sometimes she would mistake the train she was supposed to take and end somewhere else at 2AM, so she would find herself a 24 hour karaoke box and broadcast for a while from there, then spend the night there."

>Her fans actually believe her

You just can't make this shit up.

>>17009482
Hope you keep in mind that in the middle of the webm she went to the bathroom to take a massive shit.

>Yeah, let's vote for a new sousenkyo number 1 chair
>https://www.showroom-live.com/event/akb48_sousenkyo_49th

God, they really finding all those random reason to start a event showroom.

>>17009484
It's sad that they have to even make excuses desu. If she wants to date, she should date, but know that she will get less fans by doing so.