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>>16887763
Maybe he's under the bed?!

>>16887763
Why does Dlanor ends her sentences in caps lock ?

beato

>>16888043
Because she ends them in katakana in Japanese. The joke is that "desu" and "death" have the same spelling in katakana

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>>16888139

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Looks like Rose Haibara constantly misses the point Higurashi makes. She doesn't trust in her nakama.

No, she rather heeds the words of Butler, Meijiu or some other schemer.
Literally everything would go better if she just talked with Leo,Wayne,Richard,Stella,Meryl or Claudia. She didn't believe in the buddies that were there for her, she didn't talk with them, she didn't give them any chance to help her. This was the core theme of Higurashi!
This saddens me greatly.

>>16888187
It's okay,she stops being retarded after the incredibly forced sex scene, seriously R07 what the fuck and becomes keikaku-tier smart in the next chapters

>>16888187
If only she read a book that was written in the future, she would know what to do!

>>16888207
>the incredibly forced sex scene, seriously R07 what the fuck
I honestly felt that that scene was a rape scene.
It came out of nowhere and she clearly didn't want it and then went all moe ''waaah you tricked me/used me for sex'' but done in a fun tone that it feels jarring.

>>16888219
>rape scene
I thought the same thing
I enjoy the Rance games, but that scene almost ruined Leo for me

>>16888207
I mean she already is keikaku tier smart, giving jobs to japanese contractors only, spending only at japanese shops etc.
She just can't stop being tricked into either suiciding or being taken hostage.
>>16888208
No, what I meant, Ryukishi already went all over it with Higurashi. Why does he make Rose go through same ordeal? Also, Rose should be able to see who really cares for her herself, don't you think? Why would she listen to those that are known schemers?
Damn, Rose... Can't believe a single persons helplessness can make me riled up this much.

What the fuck, am I seriously seeing Leo rape Rose to fucking KAZE in BGM?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aAeo53lls

>>16888261
I dunno why people like Dear You so much
Hope (and kaze 40 seconds in) always give me goosebumps

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>>16888139
anon

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>>16888271
I like the Dear You image song album, it gets me every time.

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Reminder that Shion did nothing wrong and it was all the demon's fault.

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>>16887763
previous thread #??

>>16888501

BEATO

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>>16888219
What series was this?
I'm intrigued.
I trust in R07's character analysis and writing to undertake such a theme realistically but after a personal experience dealing with such a thing I'd like to see the context here.
Not that a writer I admire's works could shed light on my own experiences but the conviction with which he writes strikes a chord of truth within me that I've only found in one other author, Osamu Dazai. In saying that, Ryukishi's works are the antithesis to Dazai's. The silver lining in the pain another has found in the world. His relentless hope and trust he puts into others by past mistakes of his character's and his own are a shockingly empowering thing to behold.
I can tell I'm reading far too much into this, but any input would be appreciated. Art is subjective, after all. But I can't help but feel that we are all drawn together by this single man's optimism and that inspires me.
I want to know about this work specifically because I can relate to it. And Google image search is getting me no-where.

>>16888226
>that scene almost ruined Leo for me
Yeah, same. I kept thinking ''what the living fuck Ryukishi'' as it happened. Sure, the backstory info that fleshed out his character was nice, but it felt really fucking weird in a way that was clearly not intended. I get you're supposed to feel this James Bond misogyny of taking a woman as you will, but that just felt completely forced and rape-y. And rape is my fetish. Maybe I just wasn't expecting it.

>>16888261
Welcome to feeling awkward town. Population everyone.
Enjoy your uncomfortable stay.

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>>16888577
Reminder that they went to the same private school.

>>16888702
Rose Guns Days.

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>>16888690
A-ANON!

>>16888718
dont post shit like this

>>16888718
O-OH BEATO!

The amount of homo between Miguel and Caleb is crazy.
I'll be damned but,that tranny has grown on me .

>>16889218
Why is Ryukishi so good at writing characters that you fucking despise in the first few arcs and then they end up being based as fuck by the end?

>>16889349
I know. Though Keireiji has grown on me almost immediately and I was rooting for him and his uphill battle all the time, even though I knew his defeat was guaranteed, because its not his story.
Also this version of Japan isn't really about Japan at all but rather Germany when you think about it. How it has been carved up amongst victors, and german people thrown around by foreign forces, I get where Ryukishi has drawn his inspiration from.

Lambda is my wife!

>>16889572
Go away Bernkastel, no one likes you.

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>>16888690
ANON

>>16887763
>hurr I like seeing little girls get hurt XD
Fucking sick fucks.

>>16888718
Is this a doujin?

>>16890113
You are an actual.
Literal.
Loli kid sickerino fucko.

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>>16889424
Oh, you're in for a ride

>>16888641
>>16861277

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>>16890562
Anime girls don't have pubic hair.

>>16889475
Does anyone have the link to the meme subs?

>>16890774
What's the point then? They are just lolis without any of their qualities.

Anime girls a shit.

>feelerino when Noriko's pubes were removed in the DVD version of Gunbuster
>you can only see her lewd bush in shitty VHS quality

>>16890774
Post thw part where she exposes her ass cheeks for the audience.

>>16890818
>That way of phrasing it
Look it up yourself

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>>16890818

>>16890629
Thanks, pal!

/seacats/ the endless!

>>16891086
Why is Rena so shameless?

>>16891549
She's a nihilist.

>>16891606
>She's like an animal.
Did you forget that whole dialogue K1 had about clothes are what makes us human?

But yes, you're right, Rena is below dignity and undeserving of any love or respect.

>>16891606
You really do love humiliation.

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>global setting
>white feathers
So it is called When the Pigeons Cry right?
What about "The next ___" part that supossedly would be a spoiler?
Kinda sad it wasn't owls and set in a mountain cabin

>>16891086
I love that scene. We get to see the most shameful part of Rena's body and we can still imagine she has pubes. This is much better than an underwhelming full frontal. Truly the best higurashi.

Would the goats have accepted Shkanon more easily if they had been stated to be actual twins? Sure, they would have been extremely suspicious after all the Shmion bullshit in Higurashi, but the reveal that they are actually the same person instead of twins would have been glorious.

>>16892897
but some riddles wouldn't add up with Shannon and Kanon being 2 human and 2 people instead of 0 humans and 2 people, the entire Beato thing would have to be rewritten etc.
you might as well ask what if Kinzo was actually Nanjo all along, it would change as much in the story

>>16892275
>white feathers
>pigeons

If anything it's going to be angels.
When angels cry

Que the religious themes.

>>16892897
Twins would have been too obvious, but they could said they were actual siblings. And maybe have someone mention offhandedly that they can see a resemblance between the two.

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>>16892939
White pigeons do exist anon
What sounds do angels even make?

>>16892939
wish the eiserne jungfrau got some spotlight or cameos if your assumption was the right dead. i'm leanong towards more of a birdtamer bs; when fowlers cry?

>>16893007
>What sounds do angels even make?

If you've ever played with a piano keyboard that has a violin function, it's like that.

>>16892919
>Shannon and Kanon being 2 human and 2 people instead of 0 humans and 2 people
Shannon and Kanon are 2 people but 1 human.

>>16892939
I don't think it's going to be angels. The "naku" in the title specifically refers to sound made by non-human animals, so it wouldn't make sense unless angels count as animals

>>16893027
blergh, a verbal shortcut from me - they're a human since Yasu is one, but by themselves they aren't (or in other words: if they became their own humans, they would add two bodies, not one)

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All Battler had to do was grab Yasu, hold her tight and sink together with her.

What an incompetent loser.

>>16893123
My headcanon will always be that Battler's FALL FAAAALL autism quicked in and he fell to the water, causing Yasu to die somehow while he tried to save him

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>>16893138
I imagine his boat autism doesn't apply to a dinghy. It is far too small to be greatly impacted by waves, and weather was calm, after all the storm has passed.
More important question is why the fuck doesn't Kinzo own a personal boat somewhere visible?
They should've easily been able to board it and sail away to Niijima.

>>16893182
>why the fuck doesn't Kinzo own a personal boat
What would a shut-in like him need a boat for?

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>>16893213
One can imagine he wasn't born a shut-in?
10-30 years ago he was still doing business.
I can't imagine he had to wait for a boat all the time.
Its would be logical to have a boat on an private island?

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>>16893138
I can see it now.

>W-What's wrong Battler!? Why are you screaming all of a sudden?
>H-hey, calm down! If you keep thrashing around like that the boat will-AH!

Then Battler fell over the edge and Yasu jumped in after him, not realizing that the rope tied to the gold had gotten tangled around their leg in the commotion. Yasu drowned cursing Battler's incompetence.

>>16893229
>would be logical to have a boat on an private island?
This just reminds me of how ridiculous Jessica's daily commute to school was. Having to wait for a boat every morning sounds like such a pain.

>>16892919
You completely missed the point. I didn't say anything about them really being two twins.

I meant that if Ryukishi had introduced the characters as "twins" instead of "strangers with a sibling-like relationship", the whole idea of them being the same person would have been easier to accept.

Nothing about the plot would need to be changed.

>>16892978
It was implied that they "were" actual siblings but pretended to be strangers. Before the Shkanon reveal I mean. It would explain why Jessica didn't wonder why they had the same face. They were supposedly brother and sister.

>>16893123
Yasu didn't die because of "countless sins"
Yasu died because of the "curse" of her body, and she couldn't bear it for Battler to know about it.
But I think Battler would have accepted Yasu, and loved him. Sex isn't everything in the world.

>>16893400
Why would Yasu want to live while being responsible for the deaths of his boyfriend, his not-so-secret admirer and his best friend who is also a super sweet loli? Why would Battler choose a crazy eunuch (who planned to kill his entire family) over a real girl?

Honestly, Yasu's plan should have succeeded. I still can't believe those two psychopaths ruined the whole thing and murdered the cousins like that.

>>16893050
What the hell are you talking about you fucking weeb? Naku literally just means to cry. Naku koro is the place of crying.

X no naku koro ni can refer to anything as long as the crying is a kind of background noise. It could be angels who were banished from heaven, or the jews if the next wtc were set in a fucking nazi death camp.

>>16893491
>Naku koro is the place of crying.
>place
Where the Seagulls Cry is my favorite VN

>>16893400
>Sex isn't everything in the world.
It may not be everything, but it definitely is something important.

>>16893471
I still can't believe the parents went full retard when there was enough gold to solve all their problems right in front of them.

>>16893050
>>16893491
It depends which naku it is actually. 泣く refers to humans crying and 鳴く refers to animal sounds. It's written in hiragana so it could be either

>>16893471
I am finding difficulties answering either of those questions.
Fair enough, If Yasu didn't prepare the epitaphs letter, weapons, credit card and explosive device it wouldn't have happened, but she isn't really the one who pulled the trigger.

Well as for anyone else, it would be logical not to go with Yasu. After all, what you said is all true. Though love is not all about logical choices. Can you really choose who you fall in love with?

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Is Erika virgin? Did her boyfriend ravage her before cheating on her?

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>>16893669
Her boyfriend was literally the faceless blonde MC of a NTR doujin
No way she is a virgin

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>>16893669
More like she ravaged him until he couldn't take it anymore and went for someone else.

>>16893638
Ryukishi confirmed that George would accept Yasu because he's madly in love with Shannon. But I'm sure he would be pretty disappointed too. His ideal waifu was an illusion and he won't be able to have real descendants without cheating on his wife. His bloodline will die with him.

She's still cute and has a very feminine personality, but knowing that she's not really a woman physically must be a huge turn off. She has no tits, no pussy, a flat boy ass and a freaky scar covering most of her body. And her cute personality is an act too. She can't keep acting as Shannon forever and will eventually show her crazy side.

If I was George I would feel tricked and cry myself to sleep. It would be better if the poor bastard died happy without knowing any of this shit.

>>16893491
I think you're mistaking koro for tokoro. Koro means time, tokoro means place.

>>16893750
You do not believe a person can change over time? Because Battler promised to Yasu that he will make him live a normal life, away from the island and problems that haunted him, bearing burden together, slowly make him a person. After all If they talk things through each other and understand each other why would there be a reason for unhappiness and crazy to occur?
I understand. Its a tragic story after all, and it was proclaimed in red that it couldn't have an happy ending.
George is another matter, but I believe in Battler's promise to Yasu.

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>>16893750

George would accidentally eat Shannon whole one day.

Fat fuck.

Shannon a cute. George a hippo.

>>16894056
I just can't get used to calling Yasu a "he". I know they're biologically male, but it still feels so unnatural.

>>16894129
I write her most of the time.
Though for arguments sake, I don't want for anyone to think that I don't actually see Yasu for what she truly is.

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>>16894123
I never got the whole fat George thing. I mean sure, the anime design made him look way too bishounen, but his original sprites weren't that fat. I always figured he was more muscular if anything. It's just like how Tomitake looked more chubby in Ryukishi's artstyle.

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>>16894213
She said it

>>16894317
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he's morbidly obese or anything. He's fit enough to do those martial arts after all.
Besides, people were calling him fat even before that, ever since the anime started. It feels like they were just doing it in retaliation because they weren't happy with his new design.

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>>16894357
>>16894561
>>16894213
>>16894317

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>>16893702
Erika had no faith. Her boyfriend never betrayed her, from what this image implies....

Erika did not love from the start. To have love, you must have faith, believing in the one in front of your eyes. Without hope and faith, there cannot be Love. Hope and Faith is needed to propel you towards "Love."

You see the male as faceless simply because you are the same as Erika. Your eyes are covered by "cold reality." You cannot see Love.

Your eyes are covered by Nothing.

>>16894704
Love can cover your eyes, even if there is nothing in front of you.

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>>16894740
You wear Apathy with Love. I can see your sadness.

However, be comforted my dear. The Love cannot cover the eyes.
Love is light coming from your heart. It cannot blind you.
It can only let you see in the dark.

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>>16894783
Love is patient!
Love is kind!
Love does not envy or boast!
Oh, how great is the power of love!
Humans live for the sake of love!

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>>16894797
Correct. Isn't love wonderful?
Even something as seemingly small and insignificant as this place can be filled with happiness simply because of Love.

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>>16894783
>It cannot blind you.
And when someone can only see the sun, they not be able to see anything else? If a person fell in love with an ugly monster, how could such a person live while deluding themselves that he or she is in love with the most beautiful person in the world?
Love is only looking at something and not seeing what it truly is, overpraising the actual truth and being blinded, until that illusion is broken.

It is no coincidence that Ryukishi references Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliette so much, a person who equally saw the trappings of love.

Thou blind fool love, what dost thou to mine eyes,
That they behold, and see not what they see?
They know what beauty is, see where it lies,
Yet what the best is take the worst to be.
If eyes corrupt by over-partial looks
Be anchored in the bay where all men ride,
Why of eyes' falsehood hast thou forgèd hooks,
Whereto the judgment of my heart is tied?
Why should my heart think that a several plot
Which my heart knows the wide world’s common place?
Or mine eyes, seeing this, say this is not,
To put fair truth upon so foul a face?
In things right true my heart and eyes have erred,
And to this false plague are they now transferred.

My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red, than her lips red:
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
I have seen roses damasked, red and white,
But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
And in some perfumes is there more delight
Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound:
I grant I never saw a goddess go,
My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
And yet by heaven, I think my love as rare,
As any she belied with false compare.

Love is an illusion, a misunderstanding.
Mutual love is a mutual misunderstanding of being mutually loved.
And engagement is a vow to not wake up for your whole life from that misunderstanding.

>>16894809
Love is both beautiful and terrifying.
Only one that has experienced both, and accepted the duality could understand and see Love for what it truly is.

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I have finished my journey. I am here to challenge Nothing. You seem to be familiar with the rules, but accepted Love as something that is fragile. However, thinking Love is a trap is a trap itself. Love is not terrifying. It is simply beautiful: perfection. It can never be broken. Justice does not fear Evil.

Only demons fear angels.

You too have gone insane and saw the truth of this World.
However, you arrived at the Truth posing as a Lie.

A truth without Love is flimsy, like plastic.
I will break you with my tender Truth.

Love is Looking at Nothing and cutting through it with your Heart.
Like it is written in the novels, there are many truths.
However, what separates truths and lies is One thing: Love.
The Great Equalizer is not Death.
The reason why someone cries because of Death...
That is the Great Equalizer.

And, that reason is: Love.

This is the Golden Truth.

>Love is an illusion, a misunderstanding.
Wrong.
Love is Complete Understanding; understanding every single

>>16894933

in this World. Realizing that every single thing that ever happened to you
is (you).

>engagement is a vow to not wake up for your whole life from that misunderstanding.
Wrong.
Marriage, swearing the oath of Love, it is a promise to always have your eyes open.
Even if your eyes have been gouged out,
even if your eardrums have been popped with chopsticks,
even if your nose has been clogged with bell peppers,
even if you mouth has been sewn shut,
and even if every piece of flesh has been numbed...

Love is You being able to see me even if there seems to be nothing in the universe.
Love is Me being able to sit next to you even if you aren't even there.

There has only ever been two people in this World.

Me and You.

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That's all well and good but George is still a fat fuck.

>>16894213
>Tomitake looked more chubby in Ryukishi's artstyle
Anon, his gut is hanging over his belt in the sprite you posted
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>>16894567
Hello tumblr

>>16894933
Erika looks sexy as hell, here.

>>16896059
That's what I mean. He looks like that but is supposed to be weirdly buff for a photographer. I just figured Ryukishi has trouble drawing muscular characters, and when I first read Umineko I thought it was one more thing for George to have in common with Tomitake.

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>>16896106
Erika can be seductive as hell at times.

>>16896117
She really is the best.

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>>16896130
She really is. She's perfect for all sorts of lewding too. She can be an S or an M, top or bottom, flat or busty.

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>>16892275
Is Tenshi when they cry set in Dubai?
I'm not sure how I feel about this, considering I used to live there.

>>16896485
R07 mentioned that it'll be more of a "global" or "open world" kind of story. Seems like it's going to take place in Japan, but have the setting shift to other places like Dubai.

Though, I remember it was mentioned in a previous thread that the whole photo of Dubai might just be random stock art, since he did something similar by using a stock picture of some European city when he announced one of his other games.

>>16896518
>a "global" or "open world" kind of story.
When the memefrogs cry? R07 is all about those mind viruses after all!

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Reminder that the incident on Rokkenjima could have been prevented in every Fragment if Yasu simply didn't care so much about his dick getting smashed up.

>>16897098
I doubt it. With all the tension built up, It's likely some kind of incident would still have occurred even without Yasu.

>>16897098
>could have been prevented in every Fragment
Not in Lion's fragment were Rudolf and Kyrie kills everyone

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>>16893138
Was the fear of falling just there to foreshadow that scene? That stuff seriously tricked me the first time I was reading the VN and made me think Yasu was Battler until episode 7.

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>>16897377
>and made me think Yasu was Battler until episode 7.
How? Yasu was introduced in chapter 7

>>16893624
No there wasn't that's the whole point. They needed the money quickly, you wouldn't be able to sell that much gold any time soon, plus they were greedy PLUS they had the "accident" of Natsuhis death and even then there's the question of inheritance and kinzos death. It was a literal knife edge situation

>>16894704
Read the VN you tool. Specifically the part in ch6 where Dlanor talks to Erika as Erika is resting. Bern confirmed it in red to Erika

>>16898528
The character was introduced in episode 5 as "The child from 19 years ago" who Natsuhi nearly killed

>>16898550
There was plenty of gold, and exchanging it would have been no problem if they weren't at each others throats all the time. Krauss says it himself that he has the connections to make the exchange, so all they needed to do was not kill each other. And guess what they do? They start getting into pointless arguments about the headship, who get's what, and all the other usual bullshit which escalates until Natsuhi gets shot in the face and then there's no going back.

Who is the artist who drew the Beatrice portrait?
I bet there are other nice pics by the same guy

>>16898911
Ekusa Takahito. He's also one of the character designers for the PS3 port

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>umineko manga books come out once every three or so months
>the latest (last part of episode 6) came out in jan
>can't find anything about episode 7 being released

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>>16899670
Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth.

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>>16899670
http://yenpress.com/new-releases/
I'm not seeing anything either.

>>16899670
Episode 7 and 8 are longer than all the previous Episodes so maybe the translation takes longer?

>>16899670
>>16899770
FUCK

>>16893250
LITERALLY LOL

>>16897098
That translation cracks me up every time. Nice filename, too.

>>16897169
Wait did they really?
I thought nothing bad happened in Lion's fragment which is why it was impossible.

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>>16899908
Don't you remember the scene at the end of Episode 7 where Kyrie shoots Lion?

Why does Lion look like a total faggot?

>>16900188
Gee I wonder.

>>16899961
I didn't remember, my bad.
Thanks for posting that page.

>>16895199
To assume that Love cannot bring upon harm, or isn't blinding is foolish. It idealizes what you love, overvalues what you admire, until what you actually love is the idealized image you have of what you love, more than what you fell in love with. That is the true trapping on Love, not that one will act foolish or that love is terrifying but that one must always be wary to not be blinded by love, or we see nothing else.

How ironic to say that the Golden True is love, for you are correct, but its implication runs deep. For the Golden Truth to be accepted, both parties must accept the truth of their love and mutually love the other, in the hopes of never waking up from their delusion.

>Marriage, swearing the oath of Love, it is a promise to always have your eyes open.
Semantics. Vows are still made to never wake up from that disillusion. ''As Long as We Both Shall Live'', as they say, doubly ironic, as it is love that kills us, and destroying that delusion that makes us alive, weaker, but acutely aware of everything else.

As you say, Love is You being able to see your partner even if there seems to be nothing in the universe.
However, the opposite is the true failing of love. Loving someone and seeing nothing in the universe but the one you love. That is the true trappings of love.

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!!!

Can someone explain to me how R07 became popular?
I want to believe that If a work is good, it was sure to become popular. However there are, thousands of doujin works that went unnoticed. And I see many talented FANFICTION writters go unnoticed.
I wish I could make my own VN, but the chances of it not falling back with all the other EVNs to the duster is small. And there is 0 comiket chance for me to present my work.

I guess he had dumb luck+ good story.

>>16900912
https://github.com/07th-mod/higurashi-console-arcs
Link if anyone wants to try it. He did it surprisingly fast, I hope the translation doesn't suffer from the speed

Witches aren't real? Furniture grows on its own? Are you stupid? Wanna die?

>>16900928
If you want it to become popular you need good marketing.
I recall Ryuu once mentioned that that he would go to stores to Akihabara and would try and get them to stock his games, even then they didn't get popular until after Himatsubushi-hen.
Unless you live in Japan this method of marketing is impossible.
You'd have to try and shilling the VN in forums that would allow you to. Send it to "lets players" that play VNs. Or find a small publisher that woulddo the marketing for you.

>>16900928
>Can someone explain to me how R07 became popular?
Ryukishi said he was a complete unknown when he started writing VNs. Higurashi only got really popular by ep 5 when people started making theories online.

As for anything becoming popular, it's a mater of good marketing, having a good product, and mass appeal. It's clear he had all three when he studied up on Nasu on how he became popular before writing Higurashi.

EVN are an impossible niche market in the west because no one makes them unless they're games hidden as VNs. You'd have better chances writing a book and having it become a best seller than having your VN read by anyone.

>>16900928
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-1-when-they-cry-the-world-of-ryukishi07/
He talked a bit about it at this panel

>>16900912
OH SHIT

>>16899670
Patience.

>>16901110
>EVN are an impossible niche market in the west because no one makes them unless they're games hidden as VNs

The problem with EVNs is the art style. You have so many VNs with artists who's style is rooted in realism or tumblr. That puts me off instantly. I grew up reading VNs with anime-like art style and EVNs most of the time fail to imitate that.

>>16902748
> You have so many EVNs

>>16901060
>>16901110
Makes sense, but as far as you've said I'd be better of writing a book. However, I have already thought about that and it seems that publishing companies are not interested in anything that isn't sure to sell. So they wouldn't bet on anything that isn't a recipe book, teen romance book, self help books.

Also, yes I read that Ryukishi also worked somewhere akin to a gamestore. Where when someone made an order he packaged in Higurashi too. When somebody got something else to play for no cost of course they were going to play it.
This seems impossible nowadays, but Ryukishi really was doing his best.

>>16902952
There's amazon self publishing if I'm not mistaken

>>16903017
Ha. You have better chances making a game and putting it on steam.

>>16903099
This desu.
At least the western vn community is enthusiastic about helping creators gain traction and fund their projects if you manage to catch its attention. In the void of amazon self-publishing no one will hear your screams.

セルフパブリシャのなくころに

>>16903338
>セルフパブリシャのなくころに
Will suck dick for publicity.
cant wake up

Why is Umineko suck a masterpiece? Historically speaking? Psychologically speaking?

Higurashi is a 8/10 excellent story. Higanbana is a 8/10 excellent story. Why is Umineko a 10/10 fucking masterpiece would read it again for all eternity until I die? What is the logical reasoning for the creation of the best VN ever created?

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>>16903994
I would say it's because in Umineko you have a lot of variation and themes, so it never gets old. You have psychological horror, riddles, economics, love stories, sad stories, fun moments, a diverse cast of characters, good ol' shonen fights, gore, adult themes, a godly OST, and an engaging story.

It is literally the best thing I have ever read or seen, period. Never before has any story, book, game, show or movie made me feel so much hype, fun, empathy, happiness and extreme sadness as this one. It may sound stupid, but the first time I finished Umineko it fucking destroyed me, I have not been the same since then, and it has been years already. Umineko actually made me grow as a person.

>>16903994
Its not the best, but its ability to repeatedly discuss it is its selling point.
I've read the good and the bad, but just because it includes the META it doesn't qualify as the best.

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So for the Erika fan game, what is the setting you should set for the grandfather clock in the great hall?

Also is the project still alive?

>>16904264
>Also is the project still alive?

Lel. Do you honestly believe a miracle will happen?

>>16904264
When logic fails bruteforce is the answer

>>16904323
Brute forcing it is proving to be extremely painful hence I asked.
I'm not finding clues within the mansion itself I believe.

>>16904314
Well shit. I actually enjoy it.

>>16904161
what a horrible chart.

>>16904675
I can imagine little battler crying about his D mark

>>16904264
Where can I download this?

>>16904784
https://whabroad.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/erika-project-through-act-1-release/

Do get back if you figure out about the clock will ya?

>>16904547
fuck u

Why do people hate Chiru so much? I thought it was pretty good.

>>16905635
The people who dislike Chiru usually don't understand the themes, plus goat scene was a thing.

>>16905635
opening the catbox was a mistake. Well, not really, but I think most people would agree that the journey was more satisfying and ultimately meaningful than the conclusion. It was the same way for higurashi in a sense.

>>16905621
Every time

Is Higanbana any good? I just finished Umineko and I want more Ryukishi but I can't find any reviews for it.

>>16906042
Yes. It's a collection of short stories in a elementary school involving bullying, death, suicide, dark thoughts, pedophilia and other negative emotions. It's worth reading for the bullying, the actress girl story for the twist and the running girl story.

Second Night feels less darker than the First Night but it's still fun.

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Damn these kids are so fun, I like S2 much more than S1, even though Leo was a cool guy. RGD is just getting better and better.

>>16906042
It's really edgy. Still good though.

>>16906125
Their battle theme is 10/10 too

>>16906073
>pedophilia
>negative emotion
I don't think that was Ryukishi's intention. He seems to be pretty cool with it. The teacher is just a fucked up psychopath who happens to like lolis because they are an easy target. I really doubt the author was trying to make a statement about paedophilia. He had many chances to do so in his previous works and always avoided treating the attraction itself as a problem.

>>16906165
For a time I thought Irie was the culprit, and he was abducting girls into his rapedungeon and injecting them with weird drugs because he's a sick pedo pig, but he turned out to be pretty chill.

>>16906179
I always thought Irie looked like Lewis Carroll. He just finds lolis so damn cute that he can't help imagining them naked and shit. Something about them is simply mindblowing.

I don't think the resemblance was intentional, though.

>>16906073
>telling him that there is a twist
You just spoiled the twist.

>>16906179
>maid in heaven was not in the manga
Literally why

>>16906125
I couldn't really stand them until the very end of their arc
then I felt horrible for them in Season 4 when one of them died

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>>16906450
>His last living moment was realizing he and all his comrades had given their lives protecting a body double that was meant to be killed anyways

>>16906471
And then Richard abruptly started shooting up GHQ because the dreaded Japanese cold

>>16906450
>>16906471
>>16906511
I am currently getting last season.
Is the season 3 contained in there?
I've seen the first one marked as just DEMO, second one as Season2 and third one as Final season.
As far as I knew there were 4 seasons, so this made very little sense.

Also I am very glad, I can hang out here and discuss RGD. It would be a shame if his other works would not be discussed.

>>16907131
Yes, Last Season contains all 4

>>16907137
Huh... I was downloading all of them separately though.

>>16906450
It's more 'how' he died that was sad.

>>16907131
Can't wait to hear your reaction to Season 3 and the first half of Last Season. The last time I experienced such a rush was when I read Umineko.
That entire Soy Sauce War was nerve racking.

Ryukishi really loves his keikaku.

>>16908638
They make the Chinese so detestable up till the point where we defeat them and suddenly I wish he didn't have to go.

>>16908667
I love the bastard from the moment he showed up.
Fun fact, Ryukishi is the one that drew him.

>>16899670
Huh? Episode 8's manga adaptation finished in 2015.

>>16908704
He's talking about the English release

>>16908717
Oh, its so far behind. I wonder why, are there no fan translators?

>>16908736
The fan translation finished a while back. They're talking about the official release.

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>>16900557
You wear love with apathy. You are protective.
Thank you, my dear friend. I am touched by your kindness.

However, I have made you misunderstand me. So I will clear up the shadow between us.

>It idealizes what you love
Wrong, yet correct.

Love is Ideal. it can never be too overvalued because it is priceless. Every single thing you have treasured; every happiness, every sadness, every bit of true pleasure are all essential. They are all what makes you. They are all what pushes you to the next happiness you desire, pursuing "Love."

The Golden Land;
Beatrice;
Heaven.

The Ideal we saw...
The one we imagined to be "Perfect."
That is the Truth.

Love is a Trap, as you suggest. However, believing that trap to be a trap is Incorrect.

A trap is only a trap if we believe it to be a trap. A prison is a prison if we do not want to be imprisoned. Hell is only hell if we only believe it to be Hell.

After all, even Home can be someone's Hell.

However, with Love, those horrible words transform.

A trap that releases you.
A prison that rewards you.
A Hell that cools you.

A Horror becoming a Romance.
That is the duality that you speak of...
That we both know.

Though it is a delusion, it is not an illusion.
It is Fiction holding hands with Nonfiction.
Imaginary in Marriage with Reality.
"Warm Reality."

>as it is love that kills us
Wrong.
Love cannot kill us. Love is what makes us immortal.
We live forever because of Love.

Your love for me; my love for you: our Love.
My previous words still hold true. There have only ever been two people in this world since the Beginning.

You see love as a trap because you still fear the prison. But it is not a trap to avoid.

We are willing slaves; prisoners of Love.
Yet we are also jailers; jailers of Hate.
We will always obey Love, but we will keep Nothing away.

This is the Truth of the love that you see as Trap.

For your Trap is my Truth.

After all, you can just replace "ap" with "uth."

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What kind of music would this little chromosome trombone listen to?

I think to keep appearances she listens to classic and jazz in public but once she's alone she puts hardstyle on full blast

>>16909083
She listens to her own fluids.

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>>16909083
Someone who seeks only cold facts and likes seeing the ugliness in people probably listens to something edgy and full of hate.

Probably gangster rap and death metal.
Something like that.

>>16909083
She loves to hear herself talk.

>>16900188
Lion is bi.

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>>16909083
Brazillian music

>>16909083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3m7BZ5tzeg

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_UHO60tkdg
How does ZTS do it? Like the level he's at you'd think we'd hear more about him

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Did someone say chopsticks?

>>16911132
zts, dai, xaki and Luck Ganriki are making the music for the upcoming mobile game Mashiro Witch

I hope zts will be in the new WTC as well, but he didn't make any tracks for Higanbana, Rose Guns Days or Trianthology

>Narnith made a huge excel trying to recreate the Umineko timeline and meta stuff
How can other LPs even compete?

>>16911665
>plays the ps3 version

I just can't stand Umineko that way.EP1 introductory scene with Kinzo was really dark looking when I played it. This gives it no justice.

>>16911891
>I just can't stand Umineko that way
That much has been made clear.

I wonder why the orient is so interesting in general.
The americans in RGD and their side of the story is so damn boring.
The Chinese and Japanese parts are much more dynamic and chaotic,not to mention, much more complex.
And for all that they have been saying that there were american and chinese immigrants.
I haven't seen a single mention of an american store, immigrant or anything except GHQ and burgers maybe twice.
Seems like all the immigrants are actually Chinese, and American side is just trying to get Japanese to be pro-American. (Which is honestly a good thing).

Chinatowns theme is really addicting to listen too.

What is your favorite chapter of Higurashi? Mine would probably be Meakashi-hen just because of how fucked up it is.

>>16912347
Tsumihoroboshi

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>>16892275
>>16892939
Why not when doves cry?

>>16896107
You can be both muscular and have a fat tummy. Like a man who does a lot of manual labor, but drinks a lot of beer and his wife also makes a fuckton of fat food every day, so he gets a belly while still being strong.
I think Takano mentions Tomitake has gained some weight somewhere.

>>16912417
Does it even have to be a bird?
Why not set in China, When the dogs cry?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhpAFS-7Z8
Do you think this indian womans theory holds any weight?

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>>16912871
>I would also like to thank Youtube user "KnownNoMore"
those were feelings I didn't want to dig up

https://strawpoll.com/ee8gge6

>>16913253
I'm one of the few people who voted Hajisarashi.
I want some Rena fan Service.

>>16913253
How's the translation anyway for the arc that was just released? Haven't got a chance to read it yet.

>>16912871
oh man this shit has so many holes over it I'd love to poke them all.
First off, the rankings have no consistency.
By explanations
Creators= AuAurora
Readers=Bern,Lambda
Main characters of a story= Beato

This would be fun to apply, but first off, she says readers can become creators for no apparent reason (e.g. creating a work), but how is a cat supposed to create a work? Even before I mention that, by that logic a main character of a story may never become reader or writer. (E.G. Beatrice going to creator or voyager class). How does this enable Frederica Bernkastel exist? Considering she is embodient of Rika that gave up on her vicious cycle and separated from her physical body and ascended into the Meta world? How would a main character be able to become a person of flesh, able to read another work?

Second, she proclaims Lambda is "nothing but a spectator", but she impacts the story,decisively so, all the way from episode 1 to ep 8.

>Erika is actually Ikuko Hachijo
She even says its hard to digest. It is because it sounds like a retarded ship with Ikuko and Battler, especially with that wedding nonsense.

Anyways I had many more thoughts on poking this through the video, but I forgot about most of them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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>>16912871
At the start she says that Bern is Ikuko's cat, but later she says that Bern is Ikuko herself. What does it mean?

>>16912347

I'm currently at Minagoroshi, for me it's Meakashi and Tsumihoroboshi. I liked how they were from a different perspective than Keiichis (or part of them). A nice detail in Tsumihoroboshi was that Renas text became more and more red. At the beginning I was like "Why is her text in a different color?"

>>16912347
Tsumihoroboshi all the way.

>>16912259
Yeah, the Americans got kinda short-changed in RGD. One reason is that the section is just closer to the Chinese immigrants than American. But there are only 2 named/sprited American characters, as opposed to 5 (I think) Chinese.

>>16888577
Anyone knows what the track that plays here? Cant find it anywhere.

>>16914268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0wyugIHW8
This one?

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>>16912871
>Lambdadelta thought that they (Erika and Battler) make a great couple

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>>16899961
>>16897169
Reminder that even in Lion's fragment, Battler coming to the island is still the reason why the tragedy happens. And there's no Yasu this time.

>>16912871
this video was painful in more than one way.

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>>16903994
Personally for me its because I was already a fan of mysteries and other stories akin to it before I read it. And Umineko does a suberb job of not just being a unorthodox mystery story, but also of desconstructing even though the word has lost its meaning and criticizing mysteries and the genre overall.
Its value is way greater than just the usual mystery story.

>>16903994
It has a mix of mature and childish characters. It has adults acting like adults most of the time. It's a rollercoaster through and through. Chess, love, keikakus what's not to love? Every character is very unique has their own motivations

Bernkastel is shit.

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>>16915732
You can't rape the willing.

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>>16903994
It's The Bible told as a VN. That's about it, really. Irreligious people flock to VN and Japanese stuff, so they don't completely understand, especially with Umineko. The heretical magic and candy spells. and rosy prose are all just fluff to hide the "Truth."

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>>16912347
Tsumihoroboshi's big descent to hell.

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>>16916682
>She will never masturbate while listening to you sleep

Why even continue breathing?

>>16916690
I like Onikakushi for the slow descent in paranoia culminating in Keiichi hallucinating Oyashiro walking behind him as he claws his throat out.

It's always difficult to write madness, and I really liked it.

Tearing the guts of Clair was so hard on me.
Yasu's breakdown felt so pitiful I had no words for it. I can feel that Nanjo and Genji felt like scum for this happening to her, but all they could is look down in silence and with pity upon poor Yasu.
Im incredibly sad now.

>>16912259
What, you mean the World police that puts their nose into everything, act like big tough guy and screw over everyone isn't interesting?

What makes the Chinese and Japanese so interesting is that they're so similar yet different in very small key aspect that make all the difference. It's also amazing because Japanese stories involving the Chinese always portray them as backstabbing shits, but Ryukishi shows a great deal of respect.

The QED scene was just heartbreaking and shows Ryukishi's historical and cultural insight.

>>16904264
What's the password for Maria's locker?

>>16917526
>always portray them as backstabbing shits
Well they weren't bad guys but they still keikakued Primare being forced to give the rights and poisoned Ange

>>16919243
I wish I knew. You can probably find that somewhere.
I don't know how to trigger the magazine with notBeelzebub, Maria's locker and the clock back in the mansion.

>>16919351
Cultural warfare is bloody. In the end, you can only care about your culture and nation.

>>16919844
That is a very messy topic, that I half agree and half disagree, but I won't get in to it because this isn't the place for it.

>>16919858
Collectivism ho~

>>16906042
It's really, really good.

1rst night is infinitely better than 2nd night, tho. Ryukishi had a bad backslash about the violence and darkness of the 1rst night, and decided to go the Touhou route for second night: yes, everyone is potentially a monster, but deep down they only want to have tea and they're cute and they're good inside, so everything is alright, nay? Violently rape the atmosphere of the first game, so please take that into consideration before reading the second night.

>>16903994
The mood whiplash. Ryukishi is a master in betraying your expectations, every time, every single time. Always.

Rika is a good girl? Bam Bernkastel is a bitch.

In Higurashi the meta epilogues were non-canon? Ahaha FAGGOTS now they are!

The first game has no Beatrice, and her presence is tenuous at best? In the second game SHE RAPES YOUR CORPSE and is present in the first 45 minutes of the game. Also she interacts with seemingly everyone because fuck you.

Magic exist? BAM magic doesn't exist. Also Beatrice is moetrice... until she isn't, and THEN SHE IS.

It's a weird timeloop? FUCK YOURSELF HERE'S ANGE SHE WANTS HER PARENTS BACK.

There's 18 people in the island? Guess again faggot. There's 17 people in the island? Guess against FAGGOT.

Umineko is an exercise in betraying what you believe is true. It's a fucking (flawed, sure) masterpiece.

>>16920663
>Ryukishi is a master in betraying your expectations, every time, every single time. Always.
I hate him and love him for it. It's amazing that he writes specifically to intensify an emotion or to get a specific reaction. I have no idea how he does it. He says he writes like an audience member, and cries whenever some sad scene happens but it doesn't explain how he's so damn good at it.

>>16920711
I don't know man.

I think Ryukishi has some weird sort Asperger autism or something. I have met with him (and his hat). He seems pretty cool, also he seems to put a lot of emphasize on logic, belief, logic riddles, and he is also an ex-social worker, and have a very big empathic bone or something.

He's a master. I like him very, very much. I respect the fact he was never sullied by society even more.

>>16920711
You write a happy scene and at the happiest point your alter ego tells you
>Hey, remember that you have to put suffering in there
and so at the most hopeful point in the story you put a big fat "fuck you" and make everyone cry.

>>16920776
Ryukishi did say that he's like Beatrice.

>>16920774
>I have met with him (and his hat).
Oh wow, how is he? I've always wanted to meet him one day.

>I think Ryukishi has some weird sort Asperger autism or something
Well yeah, you kinda have to be when you're in this industry. At least he's overly self conscious about it, looking at George and Tomitake.

>have a very big empathic bone or something.
It's really weird because despite all the moments of suffering, he tries so hard to be optimistic, and I love him endlessly for that. It's very easy to create works of nihilism and suffering, but it's much harder for the feeling of hope and optimism to surge.

Like Higurashi. It ends with everyone happy despite everyone endlessly dying.
Like Umineko, where Ange has nothing to live for but learns the value of live, and to live to make reality shine.
Like in Higanbana where there's bullying and suffering everywhere, but you can stand up for yourself and make everyone better because of it.
Like in Rose Guns Days where Japan is dying, but to value your culture and history is all it takes to be proud of who you are as a nation.

I just don't know how he can be so dualitic like that.

>>16920837
>Oh wow, how is he?

Stilted. Also profound and fun. It's difficult to tell what is the Japanese way of thinking (alien to me) and what is the genuine Ryukishi - but he behaves exactly like how an Asperger guy having lived and opening himself to others behave. I have another friend who's exactly like him.

Imagine a guy who's fixed on 24/7 on mathematics and philosophy, who have also gained Buddhist like comprehension of human nature through personal ordeals. Difficult to tell exactly. He's not a people person, but he also is, if that makes sense. He knows his own failings, have met with the worst of human condition, and have tried his very best to understand and empathize.

Most people will think at first he is not charismatic and boring at first glance, but I'd trust him with my life.

Honestly, I don't know. He's stilted, reserved, failing at jokes, but pretty cool guy anyways.

Also, his hat. I think he read somewhere that cool people have fedoras, and tried it himself, or something.

>>16920924
Only cowards stop liking something just because the Internet said it's bad.
Long live atheism, long live fedoras and long live trenchcoats

>>16920943
Ryukishi is one step above humanity. How does he do it?

>>16920973
He's learned to grow braincells in his fists. The only drawback is that he has to constantly keep them clenched.

>>16920991
Now I am imagining Erika doing the clenched fists pose

>>16920991
That explains why Rena is the smartest one.

Speaking of smarts, who is smarter, Rena or Erika?

>>16921062
Fuck. You are asking a deep question friend.

Rena has a better understanding of people. Erika has a better understanding of logic, I guess. Can't compare apple and pineapple.

Also Erika is lewd, while Rena is a good girl. Good girls > sluts.

>>16921062
Rena is very sharp, but Erika has autistic smarts. If they were competing 1v1 Erika would win, but if it was a team game, Rena would know which buttons to press on her teammates and to achieve victory.

Rena's like a puppetmaster while Erika is more like a scalpel.

>>16921073
>Rena
>good girl
HA. Rena is a nihilist. She would be willing to do the lewdest thing imaginable, so long as it makes her 'friends' happy.
Erika is a pervert. Rena is a debauched lewd girl.

>Rena has a better understanding of people. Erika has a better understanding of logic
That means Rena can see love, and Erika can't.

>>16921093
>That means Rena can see love, and Erika can't
/thread

Speaking of people who can't see love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK-jDMzAghk

Anyone got the review that compares umineko with the bible and lists Erika as atheism incarnate?

>>16921210
http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/christian-book-reviews-forum/umineko/

>>16921262
10/10 would read again and repost on other forum.

>Mathematical forums.
>This is a book about logic theory.
>Science forum.
>This is a book about fallibility of proof and theories.
>Jewish forum.
>This is a book about shills and families having a large amount of money.

Sometimes you need to reach for the deviants, you know?

>>16921320
>>>Mathematical forums.
>>This is a book about logic theory.

More like set theory

Ha! Oh man, I crack myself up.

>>16921335

Umineko

Hello, I was talking to a friend earlier this month, who recently had a PHD in set theory. She was previously an McDonald waitress. It was odd for me to know of someone who went to being a moron from being an Mathematician. So we got to chatting about what made her accept logic as her lord and savior. She told me that it was a long process that started with her reading a book called Umineko, that made her question the validity of stupidity over logic. Curious as I am, I decided to research this book, and what I found was surprised me!

Umineko (shortened from Umineko no Naku Koro ni) is something called a "Visual Novel" written by a Christian Japanese man. The novel is read on the computer. The book reads like detective fiction while commenting on set theory. Set theory is mentioned a couple of times, but is not a major focal point. The game book shows a lot of graphic, satanist symbols (as the murderer is trying to perform some sort of satanic ritual).





Or not? Apparently, the strange circle is has passages from the Old Testament written in Hebrew. Still, pretty occult looking, though.

The book has some scenes that are very familiar to my own experiences with set theory. For example, there's a girl who is unhappy, but becomes happier when she understand the truth behind math with someone who can only help her if she understand. An analogy, I took for accepting Math into your soul. She even carries around a PHD thesis that helps her become more connected to her new friend, an obvious reference to Cantor and Dedekind. Furthermore, when her classmates make fun of her for reading her book!

Handbook of Set Theory 1.2!
It is not immediately obvious that the club filter is not an ultrafilter, that is that there exist stationary sets that are co-stationary, i.e. whose comple- ment is stationary. The basic result is the following theorem of Solovay



In the later chapters, it even introduces a character that is Mathematician incarnate named Erika, the detective. She is a nasty girl who hates faith and only believes in evidence, she's the primary villain of both chapters five and six. She also has a major breakdown when she can't explain something with scientific evidence, because science is obviously inferior to math.

In the very end, there's a choice where the reader must decide between math or 'scientific' proof. If the player chooses math, he is rewarded with a good ending, but if the player chooses proof, he will get a bad ending.

All in all, though it makes NUMEROUS mentions of witches and demons, I think this book can certainly help morons and those who renounce logic that a life with maths is much richer than a life without it. I would not recommend it to those who already can do math, but you should certainly share it with morons / retards who you want to start on the path to salvation as an introductory point to math.

Though, it can never compare to the Bible of XXth century mathematician, there are not many morons who will read it or simply reject it's teachings. This, I think, is a pretty effective alternative.

>>16921389
>>It is not immediately obvious that the club filter is not an ultrafilter, that is that there exist stationary sets that are co-stationary, i.e. whose comple- ment is stationary. The basic result is the following theorem of Solovay


5/10 for trying

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>>16903994
Higanbana was garbage imo.

>>16922200
Not necessarily garbage but cringy enough.

>>16921389
>tl;dr bs.

>>16915732
Hey! You saved that from me!
I'm honored!
>>16916556
Decent post

>>16922284
How can you call it bs when you don't even bother to read it?
It meant enough to you to reply, but you didn't read it? Something is fishy here.
Tbf I didn't read it.

>>16922200
>>16922284
How is it garbage or cringy?

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>>16921062
Doesn't matter they are both best girl.
But Rena is a better best girl.

I read something about initial responses to EP7 in Japan were really ugly.
Something about calling Ryukishi disgusting creep, homosexual, pedophile etc.
Also calling Yasu disgusting, saying if they were Battler or George and if they found out about it "they would bash her fucking head in".

Do you think Ryukishi was hurt by this?
After all, he is a doujinshi game maker, he lives by his fans.

Daily reminder that Maria appears naked in the manga.

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>>16924708
Those people are the "goats" Ryukishi spoke of in the game. I feel as if the "goats" in Episode 8 also referred to those who wanted to "bash" Yasu's head in. Hateful people who are to be disregarded.

It isn't question of "if he was hurt," but "how much was he hurt?"

I think he felt a lot of pain. Enough to cry, I think.

>>16924708
Honestly if I found the girl I was engaged to was actually my uncle and was trying to have a relationship with both my female cousin and my male cousin I would be petty mad
Don't get me started with wanting to kill everyone and having multiple personalities

>>16925383
What about Natsuhi who killed a servant?
What about Kinzo who did god knows what?
What about Kyrie and Rudolf PRIME.
What about Rosas treatment of Maria?
How do those things stack up against what Yasu wanted to do?

>>16925394
Just because they did worse shit doesn't mean if Yasu did to me what he did to George/Jessica I wouldn't be pissed

>>16925402
Yeah but that's the thing, if they did worse things then shouldn't people be also mad all those other people?
What we have here is a failure to understand Yasus emotional state and hence her motives. You could chalk it down to
>s/he had no reproductive organs and was afraid of rejection
But that would be oversimplifying it too much

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>>16925420
>What we have here is a failure to understand Yasus emotional state
I think the manga explains it pretty well

>>16925207
Seriously? Where?

>>16925636
EP3 manga. You get to see her naked, charred corpse after Eva Beatoriche takes her out of that giant oven. Pretty humiliating, huh?

>>16925207
>feelerino when the Higurashi manga censored Rika and Satoko's nude scenes
Literally why. In the novels, Satoko was so terrified that she didn't care about her dignity and threw away her towel to run faster. And Rika was stripped naked and forced to walk to the entrance of the shrine where she would be killed. The ultimate humiliation.

Why does this shit need to be censored in this day and age? K1 would be fucking pissed.

There is also the scene in EP8 where the goats eat Ange's clothes, taste her naked body with their tongues and finally devour her flesh. I was looking forward to this scene, but it was censored to shit.

>>16926150
Ban evasion is against the rules

>>16926150
Being humiliated like that right before being killed must feel awful. Lewd!

>>16925402
Yasu didn't even know the truth about themself when they started dating George.

>>16925486
if so then these pages do not do it justice, what's here is basically yandere of the month + 'I should've done more boohoo'

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>>16925486
Why was Episode 8's manga so great? The manga for all the other Episodes weren't bad by any means, but Episode 8 just knocks it out of the park to the point that some even prefer it over the original vn.

>>16926723
because R07 went 'fuck this, I'm rewriting the episode for the goats', giving us more scenes and less stupid minigames

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>>16926715
Confession of the Golden Witch shows just how conflicted Yasu was about the whole thing. Especially Beatrice's interactions with Shannon where she calls her out on her behavior.

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How did ryukishi write such tough puzzles to solve for mysteries in Umineko? I want to write a mystery too but I'm a dumbass. Would just throwing them at people in /jp/ until no one can solve it work at refining my skills?

>>16926857
Write the ending and then work backwards.

post the lewdest Erikas you have
my folder got deleted

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Umineko in a nutshell.

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>>16927026
>implying I keep any lewd of a Rika-lookalike

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>>16927026
here

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>>16927026
It's a sign. Give up.

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>>16926985
So you can add foreshadowing

>>16927067
>that pic
Holy shit. That's too much.

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>>16925270
I felt sad at this too. Those goats don't understand love at all. It can transcend gender, age, relation and social status. There are lots of kinds of love too (e.g. motherly love).

Yasu was deprived of all kinds of love. Natsuhi's love for example, when she decided to cast her and the servant over the cliff.Kinzo's love for the most of he rlife. Battlers love for obvious reasons, and I would even say Georges, because as much as they claim to love each other, I did not understand how George could not notice that Yasu had some serious mental issues, Yasu was not understood at all by George. He was more in love with the concept of love, because it was hist first love too.
And mostly Yasu was deprived of the most of love by many of us that read this tale.

I understand that many of them like original 4 arcs before last 4.
But I feel Chiru is what makes or breaks the story. First 4 is just laying the groundwork for the story (having more mysteries compared to Chiru anyways).

Chiru is the actual story.

>>16927255
For me the first 4 arcs were more mentally appealing while the last 4 were more emotionally appealing.

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>>16927026
I can't post the lewdest, so instead here's some high quality semi-lewd.

>>16892707
pube guy needs to be executed

>>16927399
Just report him since he's the ban evading cancer that likes to derail these threads anyway.

>>16927399
Thank you.

>>16927034
*Umineko mainstream readers in a nutshell
the answer shouldn't exist

Which series do you like better, Higurashi or Umineko?

>>16927399
Pube girl needs to be raped. Rena a cute!

>>16928820
Rena is not cute. She's one slut-ass two faced bitch.

>>16928921
What if he thinks that slut-ass two faced bitches are cute?

>>16928649
Which do I like better?
Higurashi is definitely more solid of a story. The quiet village at the border of nowhere, mystery all around the demonic eastern rituals, steely character cast and distant feel of a village's comfort yet, its close community (to the outsider anyways) weirdness.
Which one is more interesting?
Umineko however is more complex, it goes lengths in making the story as much as 4D as possible. It has some well developed characters, and one EXTREMELY developed character, however some characters are completely flat. The setting is kind of dull and boring, but it is a must however, so no new element can be introduced inside the island itself.
Overall, I discuss Umineko more than Higurashi, but it doesn't mean its better than Higurashi.

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Exclusive promotional art from the upcoming ‘When They Cry’ game, illustrated by Henson.

In EP5, did Batora really understand Beatoriche's motives and the fact that Yasu is some eunuch freak? How the hell did he discover that?

I'm pretty sure that Batora thought Shannon was a cute flat chested girl who planned to kill his family for a childhood promise. And he somehow thought that was a perfectly reasonable motive.

He's truly incompetent.

>>16928649
I love both. Sue me.

>>16928649
Umineko. Higurashi is good, but Umineko is more original.

>>16930437
Originality is overated, it's execution that matters.

When did you guys find out that Takano is the culprit in Higurashi? Sadly I was spoiled so I always knew it, but the part in Tatarigoshi where Tomitake's bike is in her car was very suspicious

>>16906272
>Irie looks like Lewis Carroll
Holy shit, you are right.

>>16930712
When she captured Tomitake and said ''I am the main villain and I will kill you. Muahahaha''. I suck at figuring out puzzles.

The genius of Higurashi is that in ep 3, when you see her alive, people tend to be very suspicious but pass it off as conspiracy or that she's a zombie/alien and not the real Takano. And so, they forget that scene and never piece everything together.

Ep 1 red truth with the dental records that she is dead.
Ep 2 says that she was still walking around yet the corpse was dead a day before her real death.
Ep 3 shows you what she was doing but you see that as being a zombie or alien.

It's possible to see identity her as the culprit, but not when you're paranoid.

>>16930636
I disagree, execution beats originality as long as the concept executed is still popular, an original story remains remembered forever. A ripoff story well executed will be forgotten as soon as the theme is outdated.

>>16930921
Themes are never outdated so long as they are true and speak to the human condition and existence. It's only dated if it speaks to what is popular at the time. And even then, something cliche, done well, will still remain liked by people.

>>16930938
I concede. Still, I like Umineko more.