Gust Thread

I straight up forgot to preorder the Brief Premium Box and now its expensive as hell. God, I'm an idiot.

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Blue reflection has a 9180 yen costume DLC season pass

>>16792775
Koei Tecmo is more of a costume DLC company than video game company at this point isn't it

>>16792775
I'd be more inclined to buy them separately

>>16792950
They should join up with Bandai Namco

Looks like blue reflection is even bigger blunder than kuni, but this time even with shit sales

>>16793164
Proof?

Yeah I'd love to see where you got the sales data for a game that came out yesterday

>>16792629
▶ Previous thread
>>16694333

Reminder in case anyone missed it that KT finally released Sophie's post-game DLC leading up to Firis on PSN. They also said the PC version will be getting that DLC too at a later date, so if anyone grabbed that version, no need to worry.

>>16796128
Shame sophie was shit game and I have no wish to boot it again

>>16792008
Hope mega is okay

https://mega.nz/#!TclFyRpY!s3tJSX9wc7WyKz0d7akIamf8d_1bCZ2WWerKvHsUhC0
https://mega.nz/#!2RMiXTzD!E9ab1lZpHHuy3mmkpQQdhs0s5q-qREn_iFkd5wMc5e4
https://mega.nz/#!TQlgiazY!CTrmvK-woCI4LCV1rSdJ-hLYF3_0yKyvDQlTHU4rex0

>>16796448
THANKS BAE!!!!!!!!!!

>>16796448
Could we get scans?

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Why is there only 3 pictures of Earthes and Ion being cute together ?

>>16796128
What hapen in this DLC anyway ? I downloaded it yesterday but I realized I had absolutly no intention of playing Sophie again.

>>16796698
Not from me at least

>>16796448
Hayato Asano is the only composer?

>>16792775
>$90 USD
This is like anime Blu-rays or something.

>>16796241
Currently their only good PS4 game in my opinion.

>>16793164
Mel is a great artist but BR just doesn't look good. I wonder how much input character artists have on games.

my bururifu premium box came and then i came

>>16792775
im not gonna bother with paid DLC when I know Blue Reflection 2 is coming out next year.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/bliodi.webm
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Remember when gust games had dignity?

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But it's already april 2nd in Japan, why do you lie to me amazon

Is this game on PC?

>>16798610
I remember the token hot springs scene. And Totori's panties. Real dignified, that.

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Patiently waiting for my atelier metal keychains in the mail

>>16800322
My copy of The Finder and the Surge Concerto keychain set were shipped earlier today. Unless customs trolls me and decides to make this even more expensive, I should get them sometime next week.

I really wish GUST had offered some sort of order combining though. They shipped both items on literally the same day, but I had to pay shipping twice (500 yen) and a combining fee at my forwarding service (200 yen)
Gotta love it when the shipping and handling is almost more expensive than the items ;_;

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>>16798610
Define 'dignified', because I feel like a lot of people who are being critical of Gust lately haven't been around for long.

>>16800437
Not on the neptunia level of soulless pandering

>>16792775
Accumulated, I spent less that that on real clothing in the last four years.

>>16800462
Do you not play the games?

Atelier is still very tame and innocent. Blue Reflection looks to be the same way.
Yoru and EXA_PICO at least attempt to explain design choices.

>>16799926
Those scenes weren't too bad and Atelier is usually pretty tasteful and doesn't have huge amounts of sexual fan-service and otaku pandering. That's one of the reasons I like the series actually. They're not soulless panty quest games unlike what CH does. I do think Yoru is getting closer to garbage tier pandering though.

I can't wait until this "Complaining about fanservice is cool" fad goes away.

>>16802245
I fap to chinese cartoons every day but I don't like excessive fan-service since it's not really a service for me anyways. Most of the time it just ends up being cliche shit and it feels like they're looking down on their audience. For example, I play Atelier because one of the things I want is a nice story about young girls fulfilling their goals or whatever. I usually don't get upset over a hotsprings scene or a piece of somewhat sexy promo art but I don't want them constantly trying to force as much boob jokes and fan-service as possible. It's not some western view of respecting women or some shit like that either. A lot of what CH does just comes off as tasteless and I'm glad Gust isn't like this for the most part.

There is in fact a type of soulless otaku pandering that exists and it's understandable why some people don't want it in everything. I don't know why you think it's a fad.

>>16802355
Neptune doesn't actually have that much fan service though, the reputation comes from normalfags being triggered by goddess transformations.

Gust's waterbag breast physics in every game are far more of a distraction.

>>16802203
Yoru was pretty tame though outside of the dream world (I forget the term they used) outfits.

>>16802727
I was just talking about CH in general. Out of all their series though, I think Neptunia is the least shitty but it's still a lot more fan-service heavy than most Gust games.

I've never really noticed distracting waterbag physics either though I only play Atelier so I can't say for their other games. Lotte has been the only one with sort of large breasts but her game was tame as usual and even the swimsuit scene was fine.

>>16803581
Even smaller breasts flop around hilariously at the slightest provocation in Ciel nosurge. Yoru no Nai Kuni's are a bit more restrained but they pretty much never stop moving.

Love Blue Reflection, already almost platinumed it.

I don't get how the tamagotchi minigame works, what are you supposed to do?

>>16803765
Amazon Japan still hasn't shipped mine. I'm expecting them to cancel the order any second now.

>>16803783
mine arrived friday, did you get priority shipping?

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>>16803808
You can't get anything else for international orders.
I ordered the limited edition together with a bunch of LNs that release march 31st/April 1st with the "group into as few shipments as possible" option. That set the shipping date to April 1st.

Only Amazon already sent out all the books, while the game is still listed as "preparing for shipment" and the details look like this

>>16803765
Curious, do any of the other girls become usable outside of support?

>>16803635
>Even smaller breasts flop around hilariously at the slightest provocation in Ciel nosurge.
I'm inclined to believe that's a bug in the physics engine and not entirely intentional.

Blue Reflection is super cute, but I can't deal with reading that much unvoiced Japanese

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Picked up some second hand premium boxes of past Atelier games at Akihabara today. Going to hunt for Shallie's premium box tomorrow.

>>16803765
That sounds bad, because it sounds like the game is short.

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>>16798610
Dignity.

>>16796804
(recent Sophie DLC)
There is some more business with Atomina and Meklet, and Sophie decides to go traveling to pick up an alchemist's license and to gather new ingredients to get Plachta a human body.

I'm still playing it now. Sophie just synthesized a tent that is bigger on the inside than on the outside.

>>16804703
Making the tent is the end of that DLC

>>16804567
I have no idea how long the game is, but a short but fulfilling one is better than a long and bloated one. Plus really I can't think of any recent Gust games that were long.

>>16805003
Probably 30-ish hours as usual.

People who already have platinum have finished in just over 24 hours, but you can't tell if they've read dialogue, skipped cutscenes, etc.

>>16804718
But there is still an item on the Events list.

>>16805003
Sophie is 70 hours as usual. Firis is over hundred. Yoru is the only gust game ever that I would call short.
I think biggest apeal of JRPG is that you spend a whole lot of time with characters and become attached to them.

>>16806304
>70 hours for Sophie
How? I didn't play Firis yet so maybe that ones longer, but Sophie isn't a long game at all. Even to do everything it doesn't take close to 70 hours.

>>16807210
Have you killed Evil King and DLC bosses?

>>16806304
Firis's time gets bloated because of backtracking and taking forever to run across the stupid open world.

>>16807444
I don't understand what the point of this reply but I'll prefer empty open world over empty closets.

Beat Blue Reflection, only need 2 more trophies for platinum.

>>16807800
Are there any missable trophies?

>>16807889
You just need to do everything before you start Chapter 11.

>>16807800
>>16803765
Can you post spoilers for those of us not planning to play it?

Please don't

Platinumed.
>>16808546
>not planning on playing it
but it's so good desu, as for spoilers...
The ending is kinda depressing, Yuzu and Ramiu disappear and it doesn't seem like Hinako went back to doing ballet.

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I guess this scene was removed from the final game, I did everything and don't remember seeing it.

>>16812143
I'm only in the third chapter but god damn Hinako is way too happy in that pic

>>16812143
It looks like she's channeling Sophie smug.

http://gematsu.com/2017/04/atelier-20th-anniversary-special-concert-announced

20th anniversary Atelier concert announced. Maybe we'll get detail on the next game.

>>16815222
Marie remake

>>16816128
No remakes.

>>16816174
Marie remake AND Arland trilogy remake

>>16816227
Nah, I'd rather they just do new games in the series. I would be worried that they'd fuck up Arland if they remade it. The next game is obviously going to be the final Mysterious game.

>>16816232
Fushigi is kusoge.

>>16816227
They can remake Totori into a version that doesn't suck.

>>16816523

As much as removing Totori from the game would be a significant improvement, it just wouldn't be similar enough to call it remake.

>>16816523
>>16816541
Where the fuck did you faggots crawl out of?

>>16816247
Only Firis is kusoge.

マリー　エリー　リリー
[ロロ]ナ　[トト]リ　メ[ルル]
アー[シャ]　E[scha]?　[シャ]リー
ソ[フィー]　[フィ]リス
I bet you didn't notice.

>>16817149
What am I supposed to notice here?

>>16817221
Can't you even read katakana?

>>16817245
I can but I'm not seeing the pattern.

>>16817149
>アー[シャ]　E[scha]?　[シャ]リー
Nah, that's really stretching it.

What stands out to me is that eschatology shows up in fushigi world. Maybe I'm missing some announcements, but isn't it a different world? Did Dusk world end and eschatology get reborn or something?

>>16817309
It's just a cameo appearance and nothing else.

>>16817264
Salburg - 1 kana followed by リー
Arland - 2 of the same kana in a row
Tasogare - atleat Ayesha and Shallie contain シャ
Fushigi - contain フィ

>>16817451
Oh, that? I was looking for a connection between all of them. I already knew the Arland games all followed a similar three character pattern. If the next Mysterious game started with "risu" or "su" then that would be interesting.

>>16815222
Going to assume an album will come out of it, and I'm pretty excited for that. Some of Firis' tracks in particular should sound better live.

There is probably no chance gust will fix the vita firis version from crashing every 15min? It really sucks in large areas without any campfires.

firis patched twice for me on steam with no indication of what changed

thanks koeitecmo

>>16818598
I believe the first patch added jap text, dunno about second.

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>>16817149
I found the oldest slowpoke in my reaction pic folder to express how slow are you.

Why does Firis run so badly on PC when Sophie runs so well?

>48k
>despite being marketed everywhere
What a blunder

>>16818868
Koei Tecmo Seal of Quality™

>>16818967
Wouldn't call that a blunder, 40~50k is pretty normal for Gust.

I think it could have a strong second week as well, people might've been worried about bugs after Firis.

>>16819358
I doubt that bugs play any role when people buy gust games
I think dusk was the only games that you could beat without game crushing
Fucking Sophie couldn't be finished before patch if you did all events, and it's still best selling atelier game
And since ps3 gen only Shallie and Firis were sold around this number, and unlike them Gust go all out with BR marketing with posters on the streets, magazine covers, interviews, forcing Kishida to pretend to be hyped about working on the game, etc
I guess we can expect Kuni2 to bomb too

>>16817149
Where does Annie fall to

>>16818967
It just doesn't look good. Yoru2 is the one I really want to bomb though.

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Got my package with Blue Reflection. Anything I should know before I start playing?

>>16819384
>I guess we can expect Kuni2 to bomb too
Again, it'll probably be pretty normal sales numbers, Gust's budgets likely reflect what the expected sales are.

KT was pushing Gust for more projects. Given the short development time, lower budgets, and pretty predictable sales, it kind of works out. Worst case, KT will push less after Yoru2 and Atelier will become the focus again.

>>16819480
Well KT really needs to fuck off then. They're not a dev that can handle multiple projects and make open worlds. They should focus on Atelier and maybe have one other series as well.

>>16819457
It's a bad game

Sold more than Firis(around 45k) but way less than yorukuni(around 80k). Probably would've done beter if it wasn't released the same day as Musou Stars. Hopefully its enough for a sequel.

>>16819504
How bad is it

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>>16819636

I can't believe western trash like horizon and ghost recon sell way better than gust games in japan. i think nips are eating too many burgers.

>>16819764
Or maybe it's because recent gust games were bad and people started to wake up?

>>16819650
That's actually better than a lot of other game scores on Amazon.

>>16819650
I enjoyed how when I checked the reviews lastvweek the low score ones directly stated they hadn't played it and were giving it a 1 because underwear swapping is gross or whatever.

>>16819981
the fuck, a japanese sjw?

Anyone got a webm of 7th Apocalypse?

>>16820048
I wouldn't say it's on an ideological level of revulsion really. There's some more legitimate low reviews now but also an amusing 1 star for Shawako having been in AKB.

>>16819771
None of them have been bad though. Trending downwards sure but still far from bad. They're sure as fuck better than Horizon or GR.

>>16818868
Firis runs and looks bad in general even on PS4. The difference between 3D models is huge.

>>16819384
>only Shallie and Firis were sold around this number
What a coincidence, those are the only games that were absolutely broken at launch.
>>16820182
It wont be the same without music.

>>16821008
>What a coincidence, those are the only games that were absolutely broken at launch.
>Shallie
>broken
>Rorona, Meruru, Ayesha, Sophie, Ciel, Nosurge
>not broken at release
Come on, Firis was more playable than Sophie at release if you at least bothered to play on the ps4 and fully download it before starting. Guess which of two was sold more

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>>16821472
Ok I'll be fair. I'm EOP and Shalle's ability freeze is the only bug I ever had to deal with in the whole series. Everything else I heard from different people but never experienced myself

>>16819650
This is a pretty horrible example if you want to use amazon reviews to shitpost.

Gust games went to shit when KT took over

>>16821983
But dusk games were pretty good

>>16821983
Gust games were never good. But yeah, they got even worse since then.

>>16821983
Did Surge concerto development began when they were already under KT or before? Because other than that Gust went into shit when they moved to 3d.

>>16822136
Surge was first tease in 2011 around the time Koei bought them so I guess before.

>>16822118
You're trash.

>>16818967
I believe BR and Musou Stars cannibalized each others sales.

Gust should go back to the boxes they used for the Arland and Dusk premium boxes. They're smaller and sturdier and overall a better design. My Sophie premium box looks nice but it's harder to display since it's so fucking huge. It's also flimsier and doesn't stand up as easily. I've got all the original PS3 Arland premium boxes lined up together and they look great. They're all white, the same size, and follow a similar cover art style while the Dusk games all vary and Shallie is thinner than the rest.

We need Mel back. Fuck BR, he should do Atelier again.

>>16825874
I quite like the frequent artist change-ups. Mel's art is nice but it's run its course. If they want to keep using him they can do so for other projects. Hidari is better anyway but I wouldn't want her back for Atelier either. The changes keeps the art direction fresh.

>>16826200
Hidari again would be great too. Noco isn't bad either but I think Yuugen is kind of weak.

>>16826200
>her

http://social.gust.co.jp/pc/event/live/asl

>>16826649
>you

>>16826868
Literally whos+1

>>16826868
So, 9th of July. I'll probably make it since I work in Osaka now.

>>16822096
Dusk is already in development and KT took over while it was in development

Ayesha is the only good dusk game anyway

Don't make this thread achieve eschatology

>>16811406
I'm struggling to find materials for synthesis in BR. I tried grinding inside all 4 different worlds from the school rooftop entrance. There's also a material from low level enemies that I can't find anymore. Am I missing something?

Are the Vita games all download-only for the US? I'd like to get into this series but it would be nice to get physical copies of the games if possible. Or should I stick with the PS3 versions?

>>16832766
Escha & Logy Plus and Shallie Plus had physical versions but they were limited edition only and are probably sold out.

>>16832766
I would start with Arland and go with the original PS3 releases if I were you.

>>16832980
>>16833419
Thanks for the info, I'll go for the ps3 versions.

>>16833491
Ayehsa PS3 is dub-only, so you might want to go for Vita instead.
Though you can turn the voice off completely if you want.

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Got my copy

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>>16834100
Also got my keychain set

>>16833491
Yeah, what the anon above said for Ayesha. Go with Ayesha+ for vita or play the undub ps3 version if you have a ps3 with cfw. It was the first Atelier game that KT brought to the west and they fucked up badly by not realizing that people want the original voice acting.

>>16834285
I played it dubbed just fine. I mean I would have preferred subs for sure but it was going to be ear rape either way.

>>16834398
get out

>>16834105
Cute.
>>16834398
Good for you.

Finally got around to playing AT 2. Are there any scripted losses anywhere in the game? I want to go maximum comfy and play for the story despite gameplay itself is pretty fun

Made a grave mistake by skipping 2 and playing 3 due to pc being broken for a good while

>>16835373
You're required to lose only one battle in the Ironplate Desert. All other battles must be won to proceed.

>>16837674
Isn't there also first Raki battle? Though hers is highly unusual, since you can't just plain lose it, you need to put up enough of a good struggle with Replekia, and then she annihilates you.

>>16835373
>3
The game itself is fine, it's just the battle system that is annoying. Well, and also Saki. Otherwise the plot gets better as it goes along, the third girl is great, the Hymns are probably the best in the series, and it's a good resolution to the saga.
Still, play 2 first.

>>16835373
>Are there any scripted losses anywhere in the game?
Yes. You will see them coming from 5 miles away, and it will be dragged on to the point where you will want the character to just die already so you can get on with the rest of the game.

Also, AT3 doesn't spoil as much about AT2 as does AT2 spoil AT1.

>>16838138
What a lie: AT3 spoils pretty much everything about AT1 and AT2.

>>16837707
Yeah, I had forgotten about it due to its unusual nature as a tutorial battle, not to mention you'd have to be terrible to get killed by the robots before using Replekia and Raki busting out her total party kill move.

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Just finished Blue Reflection. I would say the game is half-good. Lots of stuff I liked hurt by really poor production values.

-Fucking awesome music
-Character designs are really cute and pretty, but all the cutscene animations are limited.
-The zones and Pure Breed bosses have great designs, but the real world is ugly, and all the bosses take place in the same ugly ass school field. The pre-rendered cutscenes for the bosses are great.
-Writing is kinda bad at times, but I did enjoy the story and ending. Too many characters that don't get enough focus.

>>16838664
Bad graphics don't mean much to me, and neither does the reused boss arena. Bummed to hear the writing isn't that great though. I still intend to play it eventually.

What are some of the standout tracks in Blue Reflection's OST?

Post favorite tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5zCPeJmgAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRIliI3LpKk

>>16837707
>>16837674
At what phases are these? Only at phase one. Taking it nice and slow to not miss anything. This is a blind run of course.

Reason im asking is I dont have much free time so I just log in cheats to keep invincible and to keep time from running out. Yes I appreciate and enjoy the gameplay but im really time constrained

So do I get to romance another reyvatail origin? Will she be as good as Tyria?

>>16841394
Only in the first phase.

And no: the second Reyvateil Origin is the only one that can't be romanced because she already has someone. She doesn't join the party either because she's unable to sing standard song magic due to plot and setting reasons.

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>>16841394

>>16841924
>cant romance the origin
Well damn. Im having mixed emotions hearing someone else got to the origin first but oh well.

>>16841394
Why not just turn the cheats off for boss battles? I mean, I can understand wanting to skip mobs, but the boss fights are a part of the story experience.

>>16844835
Yeah Im doing just that. Also took care not to use cheats that give me items, exp multiplier and such (though some may argue that im cheating nonetheless). I want the story but I do still enjoy the battles.

Speaking of battles, will there be a kanade like battle in just like in 1? If its spoilworthy you dont need to answer the question. The kanade battles in 1 were pretty fub

>>16842637
Even better, two of the heroines get each other.

The character you control is not the protagonist of the story.

>>16839633
Tigar ~Michael~ is my favorite by far...

>>16845038
>spoiler
Of course anon, the girls are always the protagonists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitKE7eit7U

>>16845233
I have absolutely no idea what the game is about but that song is hype as hell.

>>16846285
It's not even a song from the game.

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>>16796804
We need more Earthes and Ion.

>>16819358
>I think it could have a strong second week as well
Not even in top 10

So, can we all agree that Gust is dead?
When Firis was released few months ago,we had 2 weeks of shitposting, but now no one really cares about mahou shoujo(actually very original idea for the game) game

>>16852751
br was really short so we all beat it already

>>16852751
Atelier is what keeps them alive and they even admitted this. Firis was a huge disappointment but they might be able to make the next game better. And after that they'll probably start a new trilogy again so there's still that. As long as Atelier is still alive then Gust is too.

I guess people just don't care about BR. I don't think there's many importers here who played it besides maybe like two or three anons.

>>16817149
Escha & Logy
Escha to Logy
Eschatology

Looks like Nights of Azure 2 was delayed for the switch release
Maybe new atelier game will be on the switch too

>>16853738
Can't see it being much different than the Vita versions.

>>16852751
I platinumed Blue Reflection and loved it, leave.

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>>16852751
>When Firis was released few months ago,we had 2 weeks of shitposting, but now no one really cares about mahou shoujo(actually very original idea for the game) game

1. we had two weeks of /v/ invasion.

2. I can wait for the offline/full-DLC discount price version that GUST will release a few months after BR2.

>>16854086
well considering the costume dlc is more expensive than the fucking game already

>>16854086
I don't see any good reason to buy the DLC considering I already did everything there is to do in the game. What am I gonna do, walk around the school with each costume for a couple seconds?

>>16854676
Considering how nice it feels to watch Hina walk, yeah

>>16853799
Because you are retarded?

Sophie just got a patch fixing some of its issues
http://steamcommunity.com/games/527270/announcements/detail/236845278924628248

Why is AT3 titled "Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel" in English? Where does "Qoga" come from? What's the Knell of Ar Ciel?

Looks like Trinary is available, but I can't install it because of region restrictions.

>>16852751
This thread died with exa pico, I don't even know why is it still here, other Gust games have nothing to do with /jp/.

>>16855418
It's standard for localized titles to be complete nonsense. See "Nights of Azure"

>>16855418
>Qoga
Hymmnos word, I think it means "End", or something.
>Knell
An actual English word. Means the sound of a bell ringing at funerals, or alternatively something that precedes death and destruction.
>Ar Ciel
Hymmnos Word. The Planet.

Just reached phase 3 in AT 2
Why do I feel Jakuri will be best girl?
Also why do I feel like Ive seen her before? Didnt see her in 1 or 3 and yes same anon a few days ago
Im a sucker for long black hair

So...
This exists.
http://social.gust.co.jp/alarmclock/

>>16855453
That's how I found the above.
Install a VPN app, set it to Japan and make an account from there. You'll be able to download it. At least I'm in the process of doing so.

>>16856627
She was one of the central character of 1 tho.

>>16856537
Qoga is best translated as "end of the world, judgment day", but NISAs screwed it up by thinking it was an universal word despite the fact it was only observed in New Testament of Pastalie sentences, meaning it has nothing to do with the third game's setting and would have been better off used in the second game.

>>16856627
She tells you her real name late in her cosmosphere. You should also be able to figure out who she is from her early cosmosphere if you paid attention in AT1.

FUCK, I created a new Google account through a VPN and managed to download Trinary with no problems, but now it set itself to a region outside Japan and I can't get the Ion alarm.
Which is terrible, I want the Ion app a hundred times more than Trinary.

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>>16856834
>$6.08

>>16857602
Very cheap, considering you can have Ion in your phone, right?
Now if only Google let me buy the goddamn thing instead of making me spend hours trying to access the shop...

>>16856834
>Install a VPN app, set it to Japan and make an account from there. You'll be able to download it. At least I'm in the process of doing so.

Additionally, you can't have any non-Japanese payment method linked to the account. Otherwise I won't work.

That being said, I'm at the point where I just don't give a fuck about Mobage or other Japanese apps where the companies still haven't realized that the only thing the region lock does is preventing them from getting additional money from those silly gaijins.

>>16856834
>Ion in the center
Well, at least seems they didn't forget EXA_PICO exists, and it seems they still think its merchandise will sell. Maybe there's a slight chance that something will come out.
Or maybe I'm just desperate.

>>16858101
Supposedly, Tsuchiya is gonna give an interview about Ciel nosurge in the next Dengeki issue.

>>16858101
>>16858273
Just give up anon, it'll hurt more if you won't.

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Anyone playing Trinary? I just finished the prologue and watched the first 4 episodes - my phone battery went from 100% to 22% so I'm letting it recharge before proceeding any further.

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>>16860796
It's being troublesome and doesn't want to go past the initial splash screen

>>16861091
I had this problem when installing from the APK, until I remembered to drop the corresponding OBB file in the right place. Works after that.

>>16860391
We've got nothing to lose when it comes to checking out a simple interview.

>>16860796
>>16861091
>>16861187
For me the game seems to play fine but the anime never load.

Blue Reflection season pass is 9,180 yen for a bunch of clothes DLC.

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/14/blue-reflection-shares-schedule-waves-dlc-9180-yen-season-pass/

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>>16861949
Same here.

>>16862212
The anime is region locked or something like that. Maybe a VPN would make it work on the app.

>>16862221
Bingo. Worked immediately over VPN.

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>>16862221
Thanks, man. Didn't think of that. Will try.

I'm playing it but I'm pretty sure I'll get bored when I run out of resources. I really don't "get" these gacha mobage, plus the loading times are terrible for something that shouldn't need loading.

The story has the Tsuchiya feel, it looks... maybe interesting, but in this format it feels like reading a book shaped like a crossword puzzle. This mobage+tiny little "missions"+mine for six hours to get items to choose ONE dialog option is incomprehensible to me. What a waste of talent and resources.

>>16863102
>>16862212
>>16861091
Do you guys have a link to the APK? (I'm assuming that's how you guys are getting it.)

Reached phase 4 in AT2. This actually feels a lot longer than AT3 thankfully.

Is it just me or is Jakuri really mir?
Also really based. whats with her nudity fetish

>>16864310
I just use QooApp and download it from there.

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>>16864655
Is that what you think? Keep playing, your questions will eventually be answered.

Recent AT 2 talks really made me want to replay and reread the lore.

Thanks to that Im now saddened cause Jakuri's drama cd apparently wasn't translated

I've played a couple older Gust games (Iris 1 and Ar Toncelico 1), how do the newer trilogies compare? I enjoyed Iris 1 but Ar Tonelico felt too easy and I never finished.

Do the Vita (PSN) versions ever go on sale?

If anybody could get https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.koeitecmo.Alarmckc and make it so it can be installed on any device regardless of region, thanks. I'm willing to pay the money, it's just that Google won't let me.

>>16866699
Iris games don't really play like modern Atelier. I personally think that's a good thing but I know there are quite a few people who feel differently.

What happened to Kagura? Did I miss something?

>>16862212
Chiharu is the best girl.

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>>16869552
Truly

It will be disappointment of disappointments if she doesn't have a hidden route somewhere.

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Trinary feels a LOT like an EXA_PICO Tsuchiya work.

(I need to get a better phone, my Nexus 5X swaps like hell.)

>>16872470
What I need is for them to fix the loading for battles and for everything in general.
There's nothing to even load, Jesus Christ, just a stock background, BGM, and the variables for the battle mechanics themselves.

>>16872513
Is it just slow or is your phone swapping? How much RAM does your phone have?

I just spent 250 jew-els and didn't get an SSR. Fuck my luck.

>>16872513
1.5GB. I know it's not too much but come on, the game is barely more than a couple menus and some 3D models.

>>16872632
Meant to quote >>16872535 obviously.

>>16872632
>1.5GB
>the game is barely more than a couple menus and some 3D models.

I think the game is poorly optimized, combined with fuck huge assets (I mean, the game streams fucking 200MB video 720p video on a phone). I think RAM is the main issue. If any anons with 4GB phones could post if they have long loading times, that would confirm it, but I suspect low RAM is the main performance issue.

>>16872708
The video is one thing, but that's loaded on demand in its specific menu.
The game's made in Unity apparently, that explains a lot.

>>16872708
Also, I've seen Japs on Twitter complaining about that too. I don't think it's just my phone having poor hardware.

>>16872708
I have a Google Pixel XL and load times definitely seem longer than they should be.

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>>16869552

>>16872470
So, the story is not shit as of now?
What is the genre, honestly? How bad is the gacha?
Is the music as shit as in the trailers?
I don't have the Japanese level to play it, but I'm curious.

So the four elements correspond to 喜怒哀楽 I think

喜 joy/smiley face is weak to
怒 anger is weak to
哀 sadness/tear is weak to
楽 enjoyment/music note is weak to

>>16873668
I'm only a few hours in (mostly spent in loading screens)
>So, the story is not shit as of now?
Nope
>What is the genre, honestly? How bad is the gacha?
VN+galge+cosmosphere+mobage
Dunno about the gacha, I haven't had to grind so far, the battles are very easy and haven't run out of gems.
>Is the music as shit as in the trailers?
It's mediocre by Gust standards, so meh okay?

>>16873668
Not him, but as far as I can see the story is nothing at all.
The genre seems to be color-coded mahou shoujo doing mahou shoujo things, and the game has what attempts to be daily life events in the lives of said mahou shoujo.
Music is good to me, actually.

What kills it for me is the gacha. I couldn't possibly think of something less fun to do than "play" this. Looking outside the window staring at traffic is more fun. Add to that the clunkiness the game has and the fact that the story segments have almost no actual story, and I would never ever touch this if it weren't GUST and Tsuchiya. If they don't add some actual fun content soon I'll forget about it forever.

Also, I'd be very thankful if anybody could somehow get episodes 2 to 5 and upload them somewhere. I don't have access to a VPN that allows me do download all that data.

>>16873815
>2 to 5
2 to 6 actually, or in other words, all the anime segments.

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>>16873668
Story seems decent but I'm not very far right now. It's definitely a Tsuchiya game though - from starting by telling you the point is to save the world by marrying one of the girls, to having separate "Kokorosphere" stories that feature subconscious thoughts being acted out by all the characters, to the story that will probably make perfect sense much later on. All it's missing is constructed languages and song magic.

The mobage mechanics are, quite honestly, pretty bad though. Buying the game currencies is beyond expensive, there's something like 250 possibilities for the gacha "curan" that form your setup system, and increasing stats and getting better rarities uses a ton of currency and rare items. The only upside is that, at least so far, the game seems to be playable while ignoring most of this.

The music is...well I don't hate it, but most of it has already been heard from the trailers - there's not much beyond what you've heard already.

>>16873815
I'd also greatly appreciate the videos. I don't even know where the first one is available, and it seems mobile VPN connections are just too slow for it to work right for me.

>>16873815
>>16874754
Act 1 is on nyaa (ch1-ch6)

>>16874754
>Buying the game currencies is beyond expensive, there's something like 250 possibilities for the gacha "curan" that form your setup system, and increasing stats and getting better rarities uses a ton of currency and rare items.
So far it feels like Ciel nosurge, paying for jewels seems unnecessary so far. The (I'm assuming) daily events give 30 jewels (the paid currency), you can beat them with a bit of luck/skill with your starting curan.

The starter/daily quests give you enough to level your starting SSR to level 20+, which allows you to steamroll all of the current content.

The heart jewels (basically dive points) are pretty cheap converting from jewels (1:5 small, 3:1 big) and you get a decent amount of everything from the battle rewards (so far anyway).

I really hope KT doesn't fuck it up because it's not turning a profit.

>>16874765
Isn't that just Ch1 of Act 1?

>>16874778
This is just the starting content. I expect playing the "game" will become necessary when later content gets unlocked. Spending a week of real time to level for the next tier of battles is something I'm not willing to go through.

>>16874798
>Isn't that just Ch1 of Act 1?
No

>This is just the starting content. I expect playing the "game" will become necessary when later content gets unlocked.

Yeah, I'm afraid of that too, but may as well enjoy it for now.

Thankfully, the grinding seems to be limited to grinding levels and not grinding URs, since there's a fixed cost limit for curan you can equip (so you can't equip 4 URs, the game can't reasonably expect you to do so for a battle).

When will they add Ion or earthes to the gachas

>>16874912
Well, Ayami's sister is called Nei and she's a machine otaku.

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Got Hundred Eyes and exec●cord in my first 10-pull with the free jewels in starting week, along with Alice the Wanderer hopefully that'll last me forever so I won't have to pay.

I think I would probably open my wallet if they charged to unlock Chiharu or something like that, though.

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>>16878210
>I think I would probably open my wallet if they charged to unlock Chiharu
Amen

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Posting more of best girl.

Anyone has her 噛んだ moment? Forgot to screenshot it.

>>16878906
ココロココモスフィア? I also forgot to capture it.

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>>16878974

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I regret nothing.

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Finished with Miyabi and Gabriella's events for Ep.1-6, next up is Tsubame and then the old hag.

Also, what is this fuccboi on the left doing looking like a harem protag in my self-insert dating sim?

>>16878210
How is it compared to the BR?

I fucked up. I used data backup to get the 1.0.2 version but I had to make a new Google account to update. I guess there's no way to recover the backup from this new account...

Oh well. Good luck to those of you who keep playing the game.

>>16878210
I, on the other hand, still have received no SSR curan other than Alice after the initial gacha and saving 250 for another 10x.

I know most people would start over again and again with these types of things until they get something worth playing with for free, but I'll just continue hobbling along until the game becomes unplayable and then quit. Playing anything else is better than replaying mobile gacha garbage.

Looks like a new episode is out, but I still haven't even started Tsubame or Ayami's content at all.

>>16885621
I'm the one you're replying to and I agree, I have never and will never do reset marathons in any game. Hopefully it won't be necessary except for some e-sports ranking nobody cares about. The Curan gacha pops out several SRs (got Black Knight from it earlier), and then of course there's always just borrowing other peoples' curans.

>>16885312
I installed the APK over the old one but it doesn't seem to show 1.0.2 no matter what I do.

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Pro tip: Do NOT make extra curan decks. They will prevent you from fusing them and there's no way to delete them after you've created them. If you want to fuse something, you'll have to go through all of the decks and remove that curan manually.

>>16889382
Is that why I have 8 baby fairies I can't sell/get rid of even if I unequip them? Fug

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>>16889673
>Is that why I have 8 baby fairies I can't sell/get rid of even if I unequip them? Fug
Yep. Have fun going through all of the decks and unequipping them.

Also it's confusing, each deck is for all four trinaries at the same time, not four decks per trinary.

So if you set deck 1 for tsubame, then change to deck 2 for gab, all four trinaries will get switched to deck 2.

Anyone know what Ion says in the epilogue voicemail of Ar Nosurge?

>>16893021
It can be summarized as: "I got home safely and got to go to the university I wanted, but I'm still studying hard to find a way for us to meet each other again, and while there's the risk I could be taken away to Ra Ciela again, I made a machine that could send this mail to you. You're my most precious person, and I'll never forget the times we spent together!"

You then get the option to reply back, which makes her send a follow-up voicemail.

>>16893073
Kinda a cop out ending but its better than nothing.
Thanks.

>>16889382
>>16890148
On the other hand, it seems like it's useful for a couple things. First, you can group up attributes which are strong against others, using that deck when it will give you an advantage. Also, because of the simultaneous switching, I believe it allows you to use the same curan with multiple girls, i.e. one could be in deck 1 for Tsubame and deck 2 for Gabriella.

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When I got to affection level 13 I got this curan. Starting to struggle with the unlock conditions for himegoto chats though. My couple SRs and default SSR don't seem to be enough to finish bosses in four turns.

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>>16897354
You should be able to use the same curan with multiple girls anyway, it's just that right now you have you manually unequip and reequip them. I don't see why we can't equip curan on two girls at the same time, other than to create unnecessary busywork.

What is GUST? Whats the purpose of this thread?

>>16897328
Not him but I actually liked the true ending in AnS.

It felt like she knew that your relationship couldn't keep going but she was still thankful for it.

I really liked it.

>>16898737
a game brand
to talk about their games

>>16899539
Oh, ty anon. Which game can you suggest to a newfag like me, please?

>>16899641
Atelier Rorona or Atelier Sophie

>>16899641
>>16899791
if you play rorona make sure you get the plus version

the vanilla one is just terrible

>>16899641
If you're into story-driven with great setting and great music, Ar Tonelico is fun. Gameplay is kinda experimental in some games of the series, but mostly it isn't what you stay for.

What does Agi do in Trinary, anyway? Attacks don't seem to miss, and it's always 1 by 1 turn order, so it's not for hit chance or turn speed. Increase critical chance? But then there are separate effects that also increase critical chance...does it increase energy fill amount or something?

>>16897917
Cute mini-Gab

>>16900347
Vanilla is definitely inferior to the Plus version, but it's far from bad. I'll take that over Totori or Escha & Logy any day.

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>>16897917
I just punched through those fight requirements now with this party. Forget 4 turns, boss was dead in 2.

Yeah there's one SSR besides the default one in here, but she's not 楽 which is what the boss is weak against. Alice the Wanderer did all the heavy lifting.

Just pick someone else's SSR 楽 curan for your fifth, build up a bunch of energy in the first fight (the first fight doesn't count for turns, turn timer only cares about the boss fight). Then in the Boss fight, you should be able to use Alice's +180% attack skill every turn to deal massive amounts of damage. Seriously, Alice wrecks those <4 turn challenges, just don't waste your energy on Full Bokko attacks, they suck in comparison.

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>>16901884
How are you getting your levels that high? Been trying to cap just one forever and most of mine are still around 20.

The issue isn't getting raw damage so much as it is taking so much that I get stuck in a healing loop, and I expect the extra levels (and three Stars with those stat curves) make a big difference in not taking 2000 a turn.

>>16903361
>Stars
"SSRs." Phones are terrible.

>>16903361
The 20 energy elemental quests on weekdays usually pop out 1 Fairy, 1 High Fairy, 1 Archfairy each.

Take a Lv.1 character and fuse them with 2 Fairy, 2 High Fairy, 2 Archfairy and they'll jump to like Lv.30 instantly, easy. Lv.30 - Lv.40 is also quick. It's 40 and beyond where leveling gets tough.

I don't even bother fusing anything below High Fairy anymore for my Lv.40+ chars, I just sell them.

>>16903476
>I don't even bother fusing anything below High Fairy anymore for my Lv.40+ chars, I just sell them.
Is there a hidden XP gauge? If this keeps up, the only way to get the last few levels will be to feed SSRs

>>16899791
>>16900347
>>16900631
Thank you, anons! Should i play any of these on emulator or play the PC versions?

>>16905107
The value is hidden, but if you feed one curan at a time and don't tap to skip animations you can see the increase on a bar.

>>16905145
only sophie and firis have pc versions
arland and dusk are vita/ps3 so you aren't emulating those
i can't speak for the 3ds rorona

>>16905107
>If this keeps up, the only way to get the last few levels will be to feed SSRs

Archfairies are SSRs, they're still just feeder trash. I hope you're not keeping your High and Arch Fairies around just because they're SR/SSR - they're feeders. Let your party eat them.

>>16898286
Answered same but damn she needs her own route not alarm

I have a valid Japanese Play store, and downloaded and installed the game legally, but it just sits at the loading screen. Come on, Gust.

>>16906936
Are you within Japan or using a Japanese proxy?

I'm in Japan but heading to my home country for a couple weeks soon and wondering if I'll need a proxy to log back in during that time...

>>16905286
>arland and dusk are vita/ps3 so you aren't emulating those
https://rpcs3.net/compatibility?c=a

It will be cheaper to buy a separate console for each game than to build a gaming rig capable of outputting a playable framerate in the emulator as of now though. And even then Ar nosurge is a no go.

>>16906936
>>16907234
Anyway I found out that I had to reboot my phone.
But I still can't play it because my phone is too much of a potato for it (the graphics lag like crazy).

I don't really have the dosh to buy a new phone just for one app so I guess I have to give this a pass.

Speaking of emulation, a week ago someone uploaded a torrent with Japanese versions of PS2 Ateliers:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=917490

Unlike rpcs3, PCSX2 doesn't require a beast of a PC for emulation.

>>16908306
It has a setting to lower the framerate. Not sure if that will help in your case or not.

Still no announcement of the third mystery girl? I hope she's cuter than Firis

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Has anyone tried being an asshole to the girls? I haven't had it in me to choose any of the cold/mean responses so far.

>>16913985
C'mon, man. Be an asshole for us.

>>16914007
I'm almost through with Gab, Miyabi and Tsubame's content

I'll be an asshole to Ayami when I do her stuff last, hopefully the game can let me pick on her for being an old hag.

>>16913041
I doubt there will be third mystery game
It's 20th anniversary game this year, so would make sense to start new series

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I love Yuugen illustrations in Atelier Firis, is there a mega link for all of his works for that game ?

>>16915602
If you want the game's assets, this should help:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/527290/discussions/0/135511027318285729/

>>16914836
I hope it's not for PC then because we already know how much of a waste of resources are the ports

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Why are the Atelier Lilie sprites so ugly? The Marie and Elie ones looked way better and those were on PS1.

>>16917558
Don't worry anon, KT never waste resources on their PC ports.

>>16917957
What's wrong with it

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From my friends list and assistant options, seems like character popularity so far is Miyabi >>>>>>> Tsubame = Gabriella >>> Ayami

No Kagura channel yet even in Patch 1.03/Chapter 6

No Chiharu channel ever

Well, himegoto chats are eating all my jewels that I might use for chances at better curan. I'm still barely able to scrape by the current fights with Alice and a suitable "friend," but the future doesn't look incredibly promising.

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>>16858273
Here it is.

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>>16926014
tl;dr sorry I'm doomed to work on this shitty mobage forever now

Gust thread I need some help

I'm bilingual and just got access to a PS4, budget's tight so I'm trying to decide if I should buy the localized versions of Sophie & Firis, or if I should pay twice as much for the Japanese versions.

Even with the original Japanese dialogue as audio a particularly bad text script can still be distracting and annoying; is the localization for the games pretty good? I remember the Arland games having a good translation but that was before the KT purchase (I played the Tasogare games in Japanese after they dropped dual audio from Ayesha)

>>16927269
>budget's tight
Just pirate PC version, it has a japanese text built in too.
Translation is alright, not NISA tier.

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>>16925670
It's time to put character arcs on hold and raise your existing Curan. Get those fairies on weekdays and that gold on Sundays. Get Alice (or any SSR) to 60+ and get ready to evolve it in a couple weeks, and get your SRs to at least 40 or 50 (pretty easy)

Getting SRs is not hard, have already pulled two from the free Curan Gacha and you should of course have at least 1 from your first 10-pull as well. Easy to have Alice + 3 SRs for your team which is more than enough.

Also I can't confirm or not, but it seems like attempting to log in during the weekly maintenance flags your account for 40 gem gift after maintenance ends.

For boosting Alice, obviously you want to be using all your ACT on the two days of the week where Anger fairies drop (in the 20 ACT fights of course). Archfairies are jackpot, fuse them with Alice even if they're not Anger type. If you get High Fairies of a different type, sell them and you'll get 4 Curan Jewels. Sell any fairy below High Fairy, it's not worth the fusing cost. You can buy a High Fairy of your preferred type for 5 Curan Jewels. So, i.e. you can sell 10 High Fairies of a different type and receive 8 High Fairies with Anger type in exchange, and use those to boost Alice.

I tried removing my one non-Alice SSR and replace it with an SR to see if it made a big difference and it didn't, still can beat anything (including the under-4-turns fights) easily. Take it easy and raise your Curan. I haven't spent a dime and don't think I ever will need to, even if I only had Alice.

>>16927945
>it seems like attempting to log in during the weekly maintenance flags your account for 40 gem gift after maintenance ends.
Ah, that explains it.

I can't bother to grind much anymore, the loading times are such a large hurdle. If there were no loading times, I could live with doing the mobage grind, but spending 60%+ of my time on loading screens hurts my soul.

>>16927945
Yeah, I may have screwed up by trying to get a curan I liked from R to SSR. Should have tossed all those fairies into Alice instead.

I'll try fixing it but new story every week makes it seem like it will be hard to catch up.

>>16927999
Is it the network or the game loading that's taking forever? I'm using a relatively old phone, a Samsung Galaxy S5, it's ~3 years old now. Having no problems with loading. There's a settings panel to lower grafix if that helps.

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>Atelier series 20th anniversary website launched
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/atelier-series-20th-anniversary-website-launched

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/atelier20th/

>>16930084
>Sophie and Firis still aren't erased from the history of series
Shit tier anniversary confirmed

>>16927269
I prefer having the Japanese boxes.

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Marie a slut!

>>16930084
Finally. I really hope the next one is good after how bad Firis was. Both Arland and Dusk were three games each so I'd imagine that it'll simply be the last Mysterious game. Who knows though, maybe they'll start a new trilogy instead. I don't want any remakes or ports of anything. Just make a good new game, Gust.

>>16930150
If we still have to suffer the memory of Totori then there's no reason those two shouldn't be included.

>>16931770
Nobody cares about your shit taste. Fuck off already.

>>16932089
Not your hugbox. Totori is the worst Atelier and will forever hold that honor.

>>16932140
It's cool if you forever want to have horrendous taste I guess. You don't need to constantly wipe your shit taste all over the thread though. We get it, you're a faggot.

>>16932275
Why not? You clearly have no shame about spreading yours. I'm just emulating my senpai.

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>>16932089
Noody cares abour yours either.