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/kcs/ Kigurumi Chocolate Statue

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Kigurumi Hangouts/Forums:
http://www.kigurumionline.org/

> What is kigurumi?

Kigurumi (着ぐるみ) is a kind of costuming where the player wears a full body skin suit (called hadatai) along with an anime mask. The Japanese word "kigurumi" refers to any kind of full-body costume, but in this thread we're specifically looking for anime masks combined with skin-toned bodysuits - properly known as "animegao" kigurumi.

> Where can I find kigurumi pictures/videos?

http://www.animegao.com/ combines many kigurumi blogs and sites into a single feed. On pixiv, the 着ぐるみ and 着ぐる絵 tags contain many relevant images. Many Japanese kigurumi players now use Twitter. http://pastebin.com/nYuh4aat contains a random assortment of links.

Kigurumi players often stream videos on http://www.ustream.tv. You can find them by searching for "kigurumi" or "着ぐるみ". http://www.mediafire.com/?xtqkc2yn75u54 and http://yellingtoilet.com/search/?q=kigurumi have many kigurumi fetish videos. Don't beg.

> How much does this cost?

A reasonable mask and bodysuit will cost roughly 1000-2000 USD depending on quality.

> Drama?

No. Kigurumi girls have to be cute and friendly, not just in appearance, but in heart as well!
That means there is no porn.

> Isn't it usually dudes who wear these?

Yes.

Disorganised links V0.2:
http://pastebin.com/a6XQQLkX

Kigurumi Website Feed: http://www.animegao.com/

Kigurumi Hangouts/Forums:
http://www.kigurumionline.org/
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That's a very fashionable outfit! I'd like to wear it myself!
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Isn't it usually dudes who wear these?
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this video about the geishas in the new ghost in the shell movie was pretty interesting to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosBvDyWgnA
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Why are these threads archived so often?
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>>16649262
Because they don't move as fast as waifu spam threads and thus quickly read the dead end.
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>>16649262
>>16649364
The previous thread hit the bump limit. Most do. Posting is not fast on these threads, so these threads are archived less often than other threads on /jp/ . The bump limit is a lot less than on /vg/ , for example, so the fact that this is not /vg/ could be the answer to your question.
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>>16649162

I saw this, too. I want one of those now.
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http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d220428912
Who bought this? Winner ID is a overseas buying service.....
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http://nakaris.deviantart.com/art/Kigurumi-Maid-Part-10-666539718

Kigurumi Maid, part 10. We may not have any good penetration vids, but fiction's not a bad alternative. Futanari kigurumi is a concept with untapped potential.
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Who is the OP kig?
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>>16649748

Funny you should mention that.

This person's Twitter also makes mention of it:

https://twitter.com/kig_daza/status/836816005477322752
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>>16651635
They bought it?
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>>16652416
>>16652431
GKO's new hadatai, worn by @a1001216
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>>16649134

Where have you been?

Everybody knows there's a thriving intergalactic tourist industry, where alien tourists visit earth disguised as Kigurumi girls.

Apparently Anime and Science Fiction conventions are a BIG attraction off world.
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>>16650995
It's just a premade Munimuni one.
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>>16653849
I think they were asking about who the performer is.
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Can someone upload Kigurumi's Daily vol3?
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>>16653904
Some of the workers at Muni.
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Anyone seen any Infinite Stratos Kigs?

I've only see two and I'm surprised there aren't a lot more given how popular the show is.

Can't seem to find one of Cecilia.
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>>16655738
Garyuuhiro has Cecilia.
Itsukigu has Laura.
Giovanni has Houki.
There's a Ling/Lin/Whatever in Japan, but I can't remember who owns her.

There's two of Charlotte. One in Japan, another in China I think.

Feel free to correct me, this is all off the top of my head.
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>>16653709

Isn't it usually alien dudes who visit earth?
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>>16656386

I don't think I could correct you given all of that is more than I knew before this moment.
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>>16656386
The one in china that i know of is @LightNuYearCake. Could be anothers.
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>>16656802

Impressive.

Cannot tell which mask maker that is however.
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>>16656842

RAIGEKI
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Above set from @zzxx8306, pictured unmasked here. Christ, he's good.
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>>16657349

He does indeed do it well.
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>>16653854
I love it so much....
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>>16656842
I love when kigs get the meme latex. Though i doubt its a para2.
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>>16657830

>meme latex

Why do they do that anyway?

Most of the ones I've seen at this point have it.
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>>16657846
its hot i assume and kigurumi cosplay already lends itself to some fetishistic attributes. So alot of overlap ? So whoever did it first must've flipped a switch in most kigs.
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>>16658461
So many pics of these two from WF. (@Tei_To_Ku and @zakki_chou). They're pretty damn cute.
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>>16658599
Teitoku is going to be opening up for commissions soon. Anyone thinking about taking the plunge or have ordered with them before ?
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I'm not trying to promote them, but i hope this help for someone.
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>>16656625

It's hard to tell in most cases, especially when you're dealing with sentient slime.

Dude -ness is not a universal constant.
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"So a few days ago I posted some incredibly wild furry videos. While looking at them online I came across this strange fetish – they’re called animegao (anime face) or dollers. It’s a subset of the Kigurumi (cartoon costume) fetish. However, I’d like to rechristen them “Humies,” for people who have a human fetish (or at least a cartoon human fetish) Some of the people in the Lolita-ish costumes seem to be male, and some seem to be females. I’m not sure which are which. What’s so strange about the Humies is what seems to be the origin. People whack off to anime because anime figures represent human beings – it’s a substitute for what we truly want, the human girl. But people fetishize that representation until it becomes the object of desire itself, even more so than the thing it represents. A REAL girl doesn’t do it for us anymore because their eyes and heads aren’t as big, their noses aren’t as small, etc. There’s something really sad about this fetish in that way – it’s like a real person is just a little too much for us emotionally – as if the very core of what makes a Humie appealing is our own fear of each other. That said, one of the reasons I find this fetish so creepy is that there IS, to me at least, unlike furries, something vaguely sexy about some of them. That makes the cringey feeling inside of me even more intense."
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>>16658988
Everyone are entitled with their own opinions.
P.S: Thanks for scooby doo.
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>>16658988
>one of the reasons I find this fetish so creepy is that there IS, to me at least, unlike furries, something vaguely sexy about some of them.
give it half a year before he buys himself one
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>>16658988
Well, he's entitled to his opinion on how creepy he thinks it is. But his assessment as to people's reasons for getting dressed up is highly limited. As with any cosplay, there's always that naïve nerd who just wants to wear a cute cosplay and doesn't really care about looking sexy or pursuing fetish imagery. Like, for example, me and my insecure weirdo butt XP
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>>16659212
> 2010/04/12
it's been 7 years now.
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>>16659825

I feel like even among the kigurumi fetishists, a lot of them don't mix kigurumi and sexual fetish imagery - the fetish element for a bunch of us is found in the living doll, crossdressing, or identity-change parts.
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Who the fuck cares what James Gunn has to say about something he just googled? He makes shitty horror films and meme Marvel movies.
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>>16658988
>>all this pseudo analytical diatribe trying to somehow extract any "deeper" social context about the human condition today from a niche cosplaying hobby
>>completely ignoring the universal postulate of CUTE is CUTE

Three/10, go back to furry vids and filming 30 second post credits stingers. which is all that matters when it comes marvel movies nowadays.
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>>16660508
Oh, don't be so hard on the poor man and his repressed kig fetish. He's just trying to sort out his feelings.
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>>16660658
Wouldnt be surprised if the worm finally did turn for him. The rich elite are skilled at concealing their kinks.
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>>16657349
If only our western kigs could be as good as this guy.
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>>16661512

Amen to that
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>>16661512
>>16661551
I bought a kig mask a little while ago, and I refuse to try kigging it up until I'm fit enough to pull it off. I don't want to be another bad example of a western kig.
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>>16661582

I own a Nukopan that Charming Kitsune finished for me, but I don't have my hadatai yet. I refuse to post any more photos than ones like this until I have the full ensemble.
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>>16661593
Looks good so far.
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>>16661593

Impressive, though I am unsure of what character that is.

I almost mistook her for a Zonetan kig.
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>>16661788

She's just my OC.
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>>16661889

>She's just my OC.

Well, she is indeed a lovely one then.
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>>16662183

D'aw well thanks. She's sort of a Weavile gijinka, just not the extreme hair. She wears a red bandanna around her neck in her full outfit.
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>>16658461
>>16658599

It's always nice to see couples doing it or individuals who got corresponding kigs and outfits.
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>>16661582
What character did you get?
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>>16660658
Source?
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>>16662339
Source is Teitoku (@Tei_To_ku)
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>>16662269
It's going to be a kig of a Gardevoir from Pokemon. I'm actually finishing the mask myself but I want to look good in it before I start trying.
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>>16662396

>It's going to be a kig of a Gardevoir from Pokemon.

Now I've seen the concept of a Gardevoir kig in quite a bit of art.

One of the more popular characters for that type of thing apparently.
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>>16662462
Yeah, I think that's where the inspiration came from. I bought the mask unfinished from a guy on etsy and have just been kind too busy to finish it, but I've been killing myself at the gym to get fit for it this year.
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>>16662504
Man, I hope I have the willpower to exercise like that if I ever get a kig. Right now I'm just trying not to gain any weight.
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>>16661512
I'm asian and jealous of his figure, although he could be shorter for that perfect girl figure.
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>>16662232
Cute. Any pics of this worn yet?
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I'm seriously tempted to do a female troll from world of warcraft. Is that still kigurumi? Or is it silly western wannabe territory?
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>>16663272
its hot is what it is
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>>16664244

lessons learned:
taking a 3d model and creating a pepakura model from is hard
adhesive tape is no replacement for glue
i suck at building pepakura

i also need epoxy resin now
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>>16664396
Hey dere!
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>>16663050
Will still take a while.
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>>16660329
That may be true, yea! What I've seen from the more fetishy kigs is that the fetish aspect is something extra rather than the primary reason. It's not as if they bought a kig just as an expensive masturbatory aid or something. There are other things that they're getting out of the experience in terms of community, feeling a connection with a character, weight loss and health management, performance art, etc. And this fact honestly helps folks like me feel more comfortable in the kig community.
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>>16661593
Well, I cant wait to see your hadatai and everything come in, friendo! Your kig looks really cute~
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>>16664781
Thanks.

In the meantime, I'm gonna upload various kig pics from my folder to draw attention away from whatever James Gunn is on about
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>>16664836
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>>16663272
Heck yea it's still kig! I don't consider kig limited to culture or style at all. Lots of western animation kigs exist and are fairly well received! Heck, my first kig was stylistically from Mexican culture X3
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>>16658988
He kinda has a point with the representation of a desirable thing itself becoming the desirable thing
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>>16664759

Well, I always hated and thought the community was toxic.
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>>16664854

Agreed, the community is frigging awful
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>>16664866

I really don't care why people do it. It really pisses me off when they insist in sharing why just to feel connected. It's like they're insecure about what they do and need to feel secure by someone else reinforcing their ideas.

It's toxic because eventually creates "circlejerking".
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>>16664854
I've seen the bad sides of the community and some of the drama and it does honestly kill me sometimes. But I've also seen great amounts of support from it too. So I'm kind of on a mission to reform the community as best I can; encourage the good and get rid of the bad. Because I'm too much of a fangirl to give up on this weirdo hobby juuuuust yet
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>>16661593
Yeah. You look good. More pics, please…
Actually, I like when without hadatai, even if it is not full kig.
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>>16664894

I only have so many, but here's one from the same selfie session
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>>16664887

That's exactly what I think is toxic. "Incentive the good and get rid of the bad". You're inherently judging anyone else by your own values.

I honestly think it'd be better if we sticked the discussions in "how to perform better", "what shapewear technique must I use for this" and those kind of discussions.
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>>16664908

In which I JoJo pose cuz the "stick your hand out to the camera" is too typical
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>>16664914

Anyway, back to your normally scheduled kig dump

(this one's more mascot-y but it's still cute)
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>>16664676

This is still one of the funniest fucking videos these threads have seen

>>16664914
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>>16664956

Bonus Mai cuz I like this photo
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>>16664964

And another for anyone who wanted a generic shot of her while Charming Kitsune was working on her
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>>16664971

That's all I got atm
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>>16664978

Wait no, here's more
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>>16664911
That's a fair assessment. I certainly don't want to fall into the "holier than thou" position. I'm not really in a position to judge anyone else. I just want to set a good example, primarily
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>>16665027

Raptor from Uchu Sentai Kyuranger is pretty kig-like, so here's her

>>16665029

The "holier than thou" position is the worst mentality anyone can have
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>>16665042
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>>16665071

Okay, that's enough for now
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>>16664978

I can't wait till someone tries an Aranchee or a Yukio kig.
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Kigurumi Maid, Extra Edition

http://nakaris.deviantart.com/art/Kigurumi-Maid-Part-10-5-667093998

Short chapter taking place sometime before the main story, I think. Uploaded between parts 10 and 11.
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>>16665012

I don't see how Nyoro Chi and the others who do that don't freeze.
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>>16665189

could be double-layering zentais, or wearing something else underneath
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>>16665193

>double-layering zentais,

As in wearing two at once or one made with the thickness of two?
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>>16665202

two at once, thickest ones I've seen is that prototype GKO suit and the precure performers.

Wonderful, perfect precure performers....
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>>16664836
>>16665208

I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing the A La Mode Kig shows.

Someone informed me they start cranking them out in the first few weeks.
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>>16665225

There's footage of Cure Whip on youtube already, she's cute as hell
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>>16665238

I remember seeing that on quite a few channels that have the Precure live action Kig shows on them.

Watching her prance about is funny.
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Can someone with access to the forum post cici's padding guide with the images included?
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Kigurumi Maid, part 11

http://nakaris.deviantart.com/art/Kigurumi-Maid-Part-11-667120356

Pretty heartwarming, this time around.
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>>16665189
>>16665193
>2017
>people still not knowing about fleece lined tights and zentai

Either way, most japanese are immune to cold.
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>>16664252
Source?
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>>16665959
cgmaskdoll
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How do kigs hide their adam's apple? It seems like many have trouble with it, but some hide it really well.
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>>16665189
I've skiied in just a t-shirt.
I want to try skiing in kig SO FUCKING BADLY
>>16665380
Why can't you? The forum should be accessible to everyone?
>>16666026
Comes with the zentai mostly I guess. I've never had a problem with mine showing.

Side note: I'm so glad I haven't stayed like when I started kig, I was a very good example of a bad western kig, now I'm at least decent I think.
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>>16666224

The images in the guide are locked behind registration.
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>>16666263

Do all of the Kig forums have you register to see their content?
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>>16666263
http://imgur.com/a/B3gVS
There you go mate.
Its the whole first post
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>>16665225
They will start the Precure kig shows after all the cures are introduced in the anime.
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>>16664847
>>Heck, my first kig

To be fair, you may consider it a kig, but a lot of people might not.
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>>16665853
A lot of Japanese girls just deal with the cold for the sake of "fashion." They'll admit they're cold as fuck, but they get used to it and just deal.
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>>16665853
Where do you get fleece lined tights that look that good? I'm wearing some right now and they hardly look natural or good like that.

>>16666976
It's part of their required uniform, they don't exactly have a choice. I don't really get where you're coming from with the fashion angle. Normie Japanese girls aren't exactly weebs that wear sailor fuku and nerd out.
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>>16667104
Their school skirts aren't miniskirts by design. The girls that want to impress and attract guys, and/or "fit in" hike their skirts up. This is first-hand information from Japanese girls I dated who went to school in Japan who did exactly all that. Disclaimer: I am not white.
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>>16665172
Great work, keeping going pal!
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im noticing alot of japanese kig pictures being posted. why not post more american or euro stuff?
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Shots from the back are underappreciated
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As are side shots
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>>16668033
Is Asuka higher than Shinji?
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So all these kig stories kinda got me wanting to try my hand at writing too, but only after I started I realized that it's another story about a guy becoming a kig maid., which seems like it's been done by now. Mine however has a more pensive mood to it though rather than cutesy or lewd, and it has some minor sci-fi elements. Does that sound like something anyone would want to read?
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>>16668195
There is always room for more creativity on the interweb. Go for it! And about your maid story, just write it. Even if it's been done before, your story will always be a different one.
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>>16668218
Okay, I appreciate the words of encouragement. Now bare in mind, I never actually use the word kigurumi in my story, but it's pretty clear that's what they're supposed to be. This story may be a little strange compared to other kig stories, but I had fun writing it. I hope everyone enjoys it.

http://pastebin.com/AW3VGJSs
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a video thats about ten mintues long of a guy dressing up in kigu. Maybe from mexico ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kpPa39gq9AY
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>>16668613
Immersion completely broken.
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>>16667851
Do it then?
I think much Japanese stuff is much better than euro/american stuff, so I'd be only natural that people post what they like most right?
I could post some of my (euro) stuff, but I don't think its perfect enough.
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Hey ozawa_dango experts... here's a guy, in a public sexual fetish environment.
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>>16668613
I've never seen anyone post a suit up video. It's detailed
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>>16658988
>People whack off to anime because anime figures represent human beings – it’s a substitute for what we truly want, the human girl.But people fetishize that representation until it becomes the object of desire itself, even more so than the thing it represents.
...So he claims that one should be a furry (for sexual reasons not that I know of any non-sexual reason other than being an angsty child) only if one actually wants to fuck animals???

>fear
Oh come on, just because some people prefer to engage in some highly idealistic and weird make-believe, it doesn't mean they're afraid of 'normal' human interaction.

>>16664849
>He kinda has a point with the representation of a desirable thing itself becoming the desirable thing
This statement is correct, but the statement in the post you linked reaches this conclusion with the wrong steps. Indeed, animation characters (in general) are idealised or caricaturised humans (essentially all that is called a 'character' is derived from human characters or characteristics). Indeed, Kigurumi is a trick to bring these characters into the real world. However, in this Kigurumi does not differ from cosplay in general! The difference is that Kigurumi attempts to get so close to the 'idealized character', that the result looks uncanny in the non-'ideal' real world. The Kigurumi performer will even attempt to convince you it denies reality, by showing almost nothing of him/her-self and only the character.

It is indeed a bit strange that the mask design is based to emulate a certain drawing style. The drawing style is not the key point that attracts most people to Kigurumi, similar to anime and manga.In fact, the BJD-masks that have been showing up more in this thread as of late show that the 'anime' style is not essential.

So, in essence, kigurumi is not that much different from other forms of cosplay (such as furries), but it differs that it is much more extreme in suspending disbelief and disregarding reality that it becomes fundamentally weird. Some people abhor this, while it fascinates others. Both sexually and non-sexually in my case.

Of course, some parts of interest in Kigurumi are not so much into the characters, but into the (concept of) costume itself. These tend to quickly turn into rather fetishistic aspects, but the same holds for the furries.
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>>16665042
man, i love when hard plastic is incorporated into the costume, its really creative
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>>16668965
Annie is not a guy, just saying and even Ozawa attends fetish events which should be obvious by the tentacle fetish content of her store.
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>>16666224
>Side note: I'm so glad I haven't stayed like when I started kig, I was a very good example of a bad western kig, now I'm at least decent I think.
do tell? unless you're uncomfortable revealing yourself
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>>16668965
There's a difference between porn and fetish, more so as Ozawa herself is a fetish artist and I forgot the day when fetish-y events were giant orgies, she simpyl doesn't want her art getting fuck'd.
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>>16670350
Very related.
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>>16670354
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>>16668499
Good stuff; it hits pretty much all my buttons of long-term wear, full-head encasement/masking, plausible scifi (though I gotta admit, nanobots are something of a tired fetish trope). I'd love to see more work from you. And like the other anon said, don't worry about originality; I think you'll find as time goes on, you'll naturally seek out novelty as you write more.
Typos:

End of line 1: "Or am I" should be "Or was I", for consistent tense.
Line 3: "It's halls" should be "Its halls". Also, the fourth sentence beginning with "There were" has a tense conflict between that "There were" and "mansion has"; I think either past or present could be justified here, so pick one.
Line 35: "it's staff" should be "its staff"
Line 95: Every "it's" should be "its"
End of line 101, "he" should be "her"
Line 113: "the staff here serves" should be "the staff here serve", I think.
Middle of 119, "manor" should be "manner". Right after that, "I would see be seeing through" should be "I would soon be seeing though", I'm guessing.
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>>16668613
>>16669368
Wow yeah, it's pretty interesting. 3 layers of tights before the padding, and then another few layers after that? Is that actually standard?
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>>16670455
Don't think so, most only seem to wear two layers of which one is to make the shapewear+padding look smooth.
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>>16670504
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>>16670509
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>>16667856
kigurumi sideshots are a godsend, It's sad there aren't more
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>>16670455
No, it is not. I use only hip pads, breast forms and bra. That's all.
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>>16670423
Please, somebody push my buttons by fan fiction.
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on the topic of maids
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>>16670644
Well, what're your buttons?
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>>16668499
Whoops, made a typo of my own in my corrections. That last one on line 119, near the end, my "though" should be "through".
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>>16668499
that story was really nice, as mentioned before i love this kind of doll encasement for long periods of time where its consensual and its so hard to find (not to mention its an interesting concept sci fi wise in itself) good job ^^
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>>16667807
>>16667851
Can we have a Morrigan dump?
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>>16670673
Character in suit living in human world.
For example, in Vol.5 of ranobe Psycome, one character appears. Her name is Tanaka Haruyo and she is a schoolgirl from 2B class (Pic related). No one knows how she looks under a suit. But she's episode character and vol.5 is not translated into English.
One more thing, this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXbj0JfKb0c
I like idea of challenge of living as non-human being among human. And magic of mystery.
For example, imagine you want be kigurumi and then see yourself by eyes of someone. Kinda like this.
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>>16670953
They could at least get a better mask for this sort of thing, it's not 2010 haha damn I cringed at the song
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>>16670328

>tentacle fetish content of her store

I wasn't aware she had a store, much less one that sold that type of content.
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>>16668965

Wait, wasn't Ozawa working at one of those Kigurumi Maid Cafes at one point?

Or was that someone else? I remember seeing a Cyclopes mask there so.
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>>16670336
Have my twitter and look at the first pictures.
They suck balls. These days I'm more happy with what I get done.
https://twitter.com/R3nko_

>>16670455
3 Layers isn't standart, 2 is

>>16670627
What you do isn't standard either, altho I only wear that much basically too

>>16670945
Good meme :D
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>>16671777

Your twitter just made my day as Renko and Maribel are two of my favorite characters alongside Shinki and Yumeko (who don't have Kigs yet unfortunately).

Your photos are lovely as well.
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>>16670423
>>16670882
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback, especially with the typos. I fixed it and re-uploaded it, and I may add to it later on.

http://pastebin.com/m883YCMY

I'm just glad people liked it, and I definitely appreciate any further feedback on it.
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>>16670504
>>16670509
>>16670516

Is the corset a necessity?
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>>16672125

If you're an average build dude, or even just skinny, yes. Just wearing hip pads doesn't fix the problem, you have to have the incline to the sides and back of your body. Also helps with stomachs.
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>>16671915
Well, if you're going to add on to it, the story is missing one of my favorite archetypal scenes: someone seeing themselves fully suited up for the first time. Admittedly, there's not much room for innovation (i.e. every one of these sorta scenes reads similarly), but the concept is alluring enough to me that I enjoy them anyways.
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>>16671777
>Have my twitter and look at the first pictures.
>They suck balls. These days I'm more happy with what I get done.
>https://twitter.com/R3nko_
don't sell yourself too short, thats hardly an example of "bad western kig" compared to some people, but you definitely have improved as well, good job.
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>>16671777
You've got a cute figure.
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The latest from @FACTORYRINS. Seeing this reminds me of Yuri Tsukino's attempt of a KOS-MOS mask he was currently working on but was sadly scrapped permanently when he passed away.

And that in itself got me thinking, were he still alive today and being one of the first to communicate with the japanese kig community freely, would the western kig movement have gone in a different direction than it is at the moment?
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@shinja_kibou
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>>16674179

good art. Good art. Good art.
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Although it's not directly kigurumi related, does anyone know of a story about a guy with 3 girlfriends/wives who he takes turns being with while the other 2 are in doll mode? I remember reading it a while back and have been looking for it since.
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>>16674179
ooh, subtly kinky

>>16674864
sounds like something from rotwang
http://www.p-synd.com/LTBSA/stories/veryreal.html

I did a writeup about his stuff
https://disguisedwriting.wordpress.com/2014/10/11/rotwangs-work/
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Currently buried under midterm studying and a lab report, but have a not-particularly-accurate-but-it-captures-the-gist-of-it-mini-translation I did during a break:

Liberation, by Natsuki
About half a year after that summer. My friend was performing as "her", so we met in the early morning at the neighborhood park to avoid any prying eyes.
When I arrived, my friend was already "her", with that smiling face and mannerisms entirely unlike his own. From the neck up the character's expression did not change at all, but his movements and gestures made him seem like a different person. For some reason, I felt myself getting excited.
Soon, our little 3-person photoshoot began. In the fresh air and soft light of the morning, she moved and posed happily. My other friend snapped pictures excitedly, also having fun. I thought there'd be no need to worry, seeing them having fun like that. But the reality was, my favorite character was in front of me, and as long as he was wearing her, I couldn't touch her at all. Unable to touch her when she's right in front of me - it was as if she was in another world, beyond the mirror.
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>>16675080
>>Unable to touch her when she's right in front of me - it was as if she was in another world, beyond the mirror.
>>Even with kigu, ill never be with waifu. ;_;
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>>16673435

Didn't @FACTORYRINS already make a KOS-MOS mask?

Or is the one in that image of the other character that looks like KOS-MOS in those games?
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>>16673508
>>16673515
>>16673518
Sauce? That looks really good and cute.
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>>16675080
Somebody's been noticed !
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Thought this was kind of neat.
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>>16676065
Oh boy, I was nervous for a bit there 'cos I thought he might disapprove, but it looks like he's alright with it? Phew. I worry a lot about someone getting mad about me doing this stuff without permission (I'd love to ask, but English -> Japanese is somewhat harder than vice versa, to say the least).
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>>16676230
In case you didn't see the rest of the message
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>>16675431
I haven't sen Rins make a KOS-MOS mask and yes, this is of the other android girl in the series, T-elos.
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>>16676538

I believe he created this one.
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>>16673518
frig, the nukopan (nukopan-style?) bjd masks are super dreamy
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>>16677039
hmm. its not a Di (eyes too round) or a Type 46 (46's always look like theyre frowning to me)

Cetainly looks nukopan though!
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>>16675956
It's https://twitter.com/himeka_bekkan
>>16677114
It's a Di.
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>>16671777

Just realized I was subscribed to you Youtube Channel.
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>>16679112
Thanks. They've got some really good photoshoots.
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>>16679112
My bad.

Thought the eyes were round from the other shot
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>>16678238
Source?
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It appears MuniMuni works will be stateside for Anime Expo 17.

https://twitter.com/munimuniseisaku/status/838943039720599553
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>>16680760

So they're the first mask maker to sell their work stateside?
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>>16671909
I apprechiate it a lot.
Note that the character I currently play isn't meant to be Renko :P
There are so many Touhou people who deserve a kig!
But I do love the couple a lot too!

>>16673017
Thank you aswell!
I'm hardly done with improving.
Glad that you think I'm not a "bad western kig".
I try my best.

>>16673047
Thank you, I think it can be improved a lot still.

>>16679947
Thank you for your patronage.
I pretty much got blown away from my Youtube exploding in Views and Subs.
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>>16680760
How much do they typically cost in USD?
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>>16680825
Empty shells are like 75 bucks and fully done heads are 93 bucks, BJD ones are like 10bucks more.

Only problem with their heads is that everything is just stickers and actual makeup, comes off after a while.
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>>16680879

Different guy here, but that sounds surprisingly cheap.

Was expecting something starting in the 500 USD range myself.
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>>16680962
That's exactly what I thought when I first heard of 'em a few threads ago. desu their non-BJD ones look kinda off, but they're still pretty impressive for the price.
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>>16681022
The fuck? "t b h" gets replaced with "desu"? Is this some /jp/ thing?
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>>16681029
Lurk more.
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>>16681030
sorry, im just here for the kig
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>>16681022
>>16680962
They mget their masks manufactured in a huge scale in China so the price shouldn't be surprising considering their heads are only vacuum formed vinyl, they only make the mold from vinyl and send it to some chinese sweatshop (they talk about it in http://www.kk1up.jp/archives/n86753.html).
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>>16681099
>vacuum formed vinyl
That's lame.
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>>16681099

>vacuum formed vinyl

So durability is an issue then I take it (not that I expect it to be all that great for any mask in general)?
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>>16681154
Own 2 Muni Muni masks. Durability is not an issue. They don't scuff, and the vinyl is thick.
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>>16681186

What about size?

Are they tight around the head?
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Tohru kig coming in from @kaho_kig.
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>>16681196
Size wise... they can be on the small side for some. Not tight on the head, but proportion wise.
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>>16681204
Sweet. Though personally I'm waiting for one for kigs of others, specially Lucoa and Kanna.
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>>16681307
>Lucoa
>50lb breastforms
Already, in the distance, I can hear the cracking spine of an overambitious cosplayer
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>>16681401
Strategic use of balloons.
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>>16670455
Yea, I'm not sure why a person would start off with two layers of leggings, desu! My guess is that he has a latex allergy and the pink and blue leggings are just to keep the foam padding from contacting his skin directly. From my kignerd research, two layers or so of pantyhose are crucial to smoothing out carved foam padding, but those two layers are probably more than enough to smooth out veins and muscle contours; especially with the hadatai going overtop. Otherwise, his regime seems very commonplace. Most of the kigs whose suitup rituals I've seen (or had described) employ foam padding, 1-2 layers of pantyhose, corset, bra + breastforms (unless their hadatai has breasts), and some variety of swimsuit/shapewear garment.
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>>16681638
Why'd it change my initialism to "desu" tho?
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>>16681416
Is it really the Lucoa experience if your chest weighs less than two equivalently-sized watermelons, though? Is it really?

>>16681638
Interesting stuff; noted for future reference
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>>16681196
I just got one to try out with a crossplay. I don't know if the doll models are smaller than the regular, but it's a very nice fit to me (though I was specifically seeking a smaller, fitted one). Small enough a large-band Arda wig can fit over fine without the rear shell.

>>16681401
I mean, foam is a thing, they don't have to be solid silicone...
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>>16681401
people allready do pochako crossplay
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>>16681769
Did a cosplay test with my current wig and... Oh gosh. I really like this. I wasn't sure I was going to actually use it but now I'm going for it.

I just definitely need a new wig (kig sized high ponytail/bun wigs seem like a hard thing to find though), or weft the hell out of it so I can cover the exposed sides

also gotta make some better eyes, these stickers are trash
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>>16682107
Comb your wig. Also post a full body, looks good so far.
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>>16682107
Yooo~ Mei kig! A friend of mine was planning to do that too! I'd be excited to see how she ultimately turned out!
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>>16682257
I swear it was combed before 3-4 times taking it on and off trying to get it sitting best as possible.
Full body... Well, here's how I wore it already without the mask, lol. Obviously I gotta make some leg and chest padding now.

I am brick shaped and could never pull off kigging anything with a full hadatai, Mei works out nicely to at least get a taste of this stuff.
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>>16684281

lock them in and don't let them out
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>>16681401
I doubt finding breastforms that huge will be a problem as they exist.
related pic is @atelierspana
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>>16681638
He simply tries to make his figure feminine. Female hips are wider, ass is bigger, and fat hides kneecaps.
I know people which reveal crossdresers on legs.
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>>16684335

good thinking there
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>>16683882
Yeah get the right padding and wig and this could potentially look really great.
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>>16683882
That Hair is fancy as fuck.

>>16675080

Good work on translating all the things.
The maid story thingy is heating up in the right direction ~
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>>16685418

I'm kind of disappointed a lot of the early Abyssal bosses like the Armored Carriers, Anchorages and Southen Oceans don't have Kigs yet.

Or Midway Hime for that matter, though the padding for her might be a tad excessive.
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>>16672877
>>16670688
>>16670538
>>16670516
>>16667839
>>16665079
>>16664908
here I was browsing 4chan and thinking it couldn't get any weirder....
some of these even look like very prominent females, so I ask you anons, why?
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>>16685570

We literally get anons like you every thread. You are no different. I do it cuz it's my outlet to crossdress due to the fact that I dislike the idea of seeing my face in a dress.

Others do it cuz why not
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>>16685576
two questions, are you a male and are you on any pic?

I just find so bizarre, forgive and all, but I'm just curious on what this is about,
because its not only cross dressing, its fully wearing another skin with no semblance of oneself
it kinda reminded of other weird stuff over at /ona/, guys who have those full blown dolls,
only you want to be the doll instead, kinda...
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>>16685594

I'm the one with the yellow shirt you responded to. The suit is to hide the skin tone/body type of whomever is wearing it.

I completely see why it'd be weird to some people, but honestly it's just the fact that some dudes who want to cosplay as their favourite anime girl characters can't due to them looking male. So it's easier for us to wear an anime mask and not speak at all. Some of it's fetish, not so much for me
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>>16685594

And yes, I'm a dude.
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>>16685594
It's cosplay. I mean, do you question fursuits too
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>>16685570
Two reasons
1) I can't cross dress for shit because I'm manly man. So kigging works
2) I'm not me I'm "character" no worldly worries, I'm cute and pure.

I actually detest lewding in my kig. Though I'd fug another kig just not while I'm in costume.
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>>16685570
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>>16686369
jesus you brought that from pretty far way, keeping it

>>16685604
seriously you're this one? >>16664908
can't believe it, and doesn't look like you're wearing a skin suit, breast and silhouette look pretty natural too, nice job

but the thing that puts me off, is that isn't simply cosplay, cosplay are essentially just make up artists,, males can be dressing feminine or even just cosplay a male characters too (crossdressign is common)
but kig, doesn't really off that makeup effort, its almost like dehumanizing, the skin suit and specially the masks, maybe why its off putting.
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>>16686476

I'm actually not wearing a suit in that photo, I had posted it to prove I didn't have one lol. We wear them for the same reason Disney made this Judy Hopps costume; cuz we just wanted to be so insanely close to the actual thing. It's also fun not letting people know what you actually look like, even if people get stalkerish and follow you around.

And the makeup thing is like...I dunno. We don't wear them cuz we're lazy, we just wear them cuz we enjoy it. It'd be like if fursuiters wore facepaint instead of their big mascot heads. Even though kig is more human.

And then there's some who just do it for the sexual aspects. I'm really not okay with any kig who does fetish-y stuff on a con show floor, where children are involved.
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Finally going to have some free time tomorrow. In the meantime, have another mini-translation:

"It's embarassing because I'm not naked," by Takao Aozame (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=20462874)

Every week, our art class selects a model, and as usual I sit drawing them. Or I would be, but things are a bit different today. Normally, the girls of the art department are our subjects, but unfortunately today's intended model is out with heatstroke, and we had to find a hasty substitute. We eventually settled on a friend of the art department. He's maintained his pose the entire time, but now he's clearly tiring, his hands and feet shaking every so often. It seems the girls of the art department are more experienced as subjects, but he's only started doing this recently, and isn't used to keeping still yet. Well, we don't have anyone else - but the biggest problem is that this session is actually a continuation from the last one. He's slender, to be sure, and the padding makes for a decent feminine sillouette, but his shoulders are clearly wider than the original model's, and he's taller too. Maybe the shoulders could be hidden from a certain angle, but I'm sitting right in front of him. I'm not blaming him - I understand his circumstances - but at this rate, my painting's going to turn out funny-looking.
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>>16685570
id buy one if i could afford it. actually, id be scared to cosplay without buying one. putting on a complete mask in public would be a lot less anxiety provoking than someone knowing who you are and would help you act.
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Gloves fetish bought me to zentai which then turn into kigging, but things like kig hj is non existence without some zentai man which kinda kill it for me because I originally like gloves with CFNM. Rather have someone else wear it though, wearing kig would be a interesting thing it self..
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>>16685570
For me, kigurumi is a life-size figurine moving by her own will. She is a doll, but now she is not an inanimate piece of plastic. An one hand, I like transformation into a doll. An other hand, I like play with dolls, with living dolls. It is so much fun. I can rest from my human self. I can be someone else.
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A Nukupan BJD Saber, I guess?
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>>16687380
This is my reason too.
It's fun being somebody else for a change and being cute gives bonus points.
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>>16685570
my 2 cents: I get a kick out of crossdressing, looking cute/sexy, out of being encased completely, and out of being stuck in such a situation.

Kig does a lot of those things for me, even though I don't yet own a suit.
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After much delay, Kigurumi Maid Part 12:

http://nakaris.deviantart.com/art/Kigurumi-Maid-Part-12-668016038

I'll try to get another part or two out today, since the next few chapters have some great stuff
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>>16688332
I don't kig either, but this along with what the other anon said about being able to take a break from being human (to be a doll instead) pretty well nails why I'm interested in it.

Though as far as seeing others goes, I've enjoyed the cute stuff more than the fetish-y stuff lately. Even though my own interest tends towards fetish.
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>>16687609
So very stoned
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Kig maid, part 13:

http://nakaris.deviantart.com/art/Kigurumi-Maid-Part-13-668068540

Maybe one more part today, if I have time.
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>>16691070

Was wondering about the Twin Angel kigs.

Do they actually do stage shows or just promotional events?

I only see them sporadically.
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>>16686844
Oh yes! My social anxiety and insecurities are helped to a very very large degree by the fact that the cosplay is mask-based! I think when you're behind a mask, you're liberated from a lot of the uncomfortable aspect usually entailed by "putting yourself out there" in a public setting. You're given an excuse to have fun with outfits and poses and everything else because the anonymity of the cosplay acts as a barrier to criticism. So what if you act like a derp or your outfit is weird? No one will know that it's you, so why worry about it? It's an excuse to explore outside of your comfort zone and experiment being different from the way adulthood has sculpted you.

I think some people with much more confidence than me can internalize that feeling of "act however you want, who cares?" But even then, looking a different way outwardly changes the way people perceive you and the way you perceive yourself. That transformation aspect of kig is a really powerful tool for people at all levels of personal confidence. It really feeds into that escapism we chase in movies and other forms of entertainment
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Anybody know the trick to making nice glossy eyes like Nuko and others use for more doll-like masks?
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>>16691180
I think they use actual resin in the shape of an eye, whether its an entire eye made of resin or just a resin cap on top of the the eye paper to give it colour.

other than that it's just drawing style and the material they're printed on
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>>16691070
idk what they where talking about but the performance was really cute? especially the left one, they did a really good job of using their body to emote
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>>16691180
>>16691626
They are just made the same way as actual BJD eyes and attached with velcro above and below the eye, getting connected by a stripe above the eye.
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>>16691939
Pic related.
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>>16691626
>>16691939
>>16691944
Awesome, thank you. I love that this opens up the ability to have interchangable eyes.
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>>16691084
They appear mostly at events, usually winter comikets and that niconico event in April. They also had times appearing at pachinko parlors back when the series and machines were new too.

I'm just thankful theres at least one other series with official kigs other than precure. Think the performers are also female but never could confirm.
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>>16692726
Official One Piece kig
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>>16692726
From looking at that Twin Angel video, the blue-haired one has a body that's far too stocky along with very broad shoulders to be a girl.
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>>16692743

I can't wait to see the Nico Robin or Boa Hancock ones if they exist.

I'm just curious to know what they'd do for Boa Hancock though given you'd need a slender boy to play her (most girls aren't that tall).
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>>16692878

Maybe they used some additional padding where it wasn't needed?

Or perhaps it's their outfit.
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Anyone know which character this Kig is?
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>>16694214
Not the outfit. The shoulders seem a lot more broad on the blue girl. She looks too big to be a female.
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>>16693454
No Hancock though
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>>16694242

I think you're right.

Well, can't always find a Girl for everything I suppose.
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>>16694227
My guess would be Yuuko Amamiya.
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>>16694363
I don't know if it's a seam but I can see a hit of a bump of her crotch area. it's slightly more noticeable in the few times you see in side profile.
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>>16695016

Could be the hadati zipper's starting point, though that seems unlikely.
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>>16691631
I actually liked the way the right one seemed reserved and shy - not sure if it was intentional, but it's pretty cute either way. Especially if she's a guy like everyone's speculating.
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>>16691070
I've always wondered are they dubbing those live or prerecord? The synchronization is quite impressive provided you hardly see or hear anything in costume
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>>16696541
I always assumed it was spoken by the performer through a microphone in the mask
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>>16696541
It's pretty much always pre-recorded, since it's the actual voice actors providing the voices for these shows.

Nyorobotics (do they count as kigs?) might be them speaking through the mask though
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>>16696883
Always like Brownie, the bunnygirl one. She always has huge....tracts of land.
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So kigurumi NTR is a story genre thing now?
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>>16697067
inb4 deleted by mods. No furfags allowed.
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>>16697067
So let me see if I get this straight. Is the story function of kig in NTR is that a bunch of dudes wants to NTR a male couple, but aren't that gay, so they put one of them in a suit first?
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>>16697253
It is more like stealing batman costume
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>>16696541

In the case of the Precure ones, they are said to be pre-recorded by the voice actors from the show.
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>>16697067

Well, while that image is still here, are there Fursuits that copy the style of Kigurumi?

I notice a lot of the ones made by people like Tashiro Yu have the Kigurumi style of face.

And are there any notable individuals in Japan that do both Kigurumi and Fursuiting?
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>>16696541
>The synchronization is quite impressive provided you hardly see or hear anything in costume

There's no big secret: they get the written script and audio play ahead of time, and rehearse.
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>>16696883
Nyorobotics (and most idol kigurumi characters) speak through their masks, aside from setpieces like songs. Main reason is that idols rely on a level of spontaneous audience interaction that you can't plan for. (Key things to look out for: holding the microphone very close to the mask, the slight muffled echo in the audio).
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>>16697371
Most famous example probably would be xpigux who works with Nukopan on the BJD masks.

Plus it has become quite popular to do pic related.
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>>16698504

Pic related is some lovely work.
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>>16687609

Apparently with LEDs too:

@xpigux
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>>16698038
Shit I just realized this turns me on the hardest. Life is tough.
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Set from @zzxx8306
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Does someone know about this picture?
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>>16697288
So, basically impersonation? I'm not that familiar the definition, but that doesn't really sound like NTR. I mean, unless the 'victim' considers himself to be in a relationship with his character, but that's just silly.
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>>16701952
Nana Mizuki and some AKB48 girls performed the opening to Heartcatch Precure at an annual television music show called "NHK Kōhaku Uta Gassen". Their backup dancers were the four Heartcatch Precure kigurumis. The photo you're looking at is taken from some footage of the rehearsal, where they're sorting out staging and sound checks, so one of the Precure performers is waiting to the side without the mask on. (No, I don't have footage of the rehearsal and don't know where I could find it.)
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>>16701952
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After all these years, I still admire Nana.
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>>16698504
sauce?
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>>16705193
>>16705203
Nice touch with the base.
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>>16701952
Hmm source?
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