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What did she mean?
I understand about Kaguya because she became a lazy ass, and kinda can understand about Moukou what with her becoming immersed in her hate for Kaguya and becoming a wanderer.
But What's bad about Eirin? Isn't she a renowned doctor/scientist/whatever?
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>>16522133
Eirin became an overpowered Mary Sue.
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>>16522225
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She abandoned her high-ranking, revered, and charmed life on the Moon for that of a fugitive in eternal service of Kaguya, toiling away on the dirty, impure, meager Earth forever, or at least however long it has left, which she spent several lifetimes looking down on.

Her hubristic Lunarian ego and pride has been hurt. It was her downfall. Even if they have gotten used to Earth, it's the same pride that won't allow her to go back even if she would likely face only minor punishment. Now she's been forced to put aside her ego, confront her bias living somewhere she honestly detests, and forever deal with her choice in taking the elixir, making it for Kaguya, and dragging Mokou into it.
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>>16522933
Is that canon or did you make that up?
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>>16528969
Well, there's some speculation on what she supposedly feels, and they never dragged Mokou into anything (nor did they even know she existed really), and she is a god so the whole immortal soul thing is a bit redundant, but otherwise yeah?
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>>16522933
So it's like someone from New York having to go live the rest of his life in Detroit?

>>16529288
>and she is a god so the whole immortal soul thing is a bit redundant
???
Moukou or Eirin?
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She has to live in eternal service to Kaguya and is now herself cursed by the Hourai immortality she and Kaguya created

That and the fact that they have to exist for eternity. Even when the earth and sun die, they will be stuck there, with only each other to live with. Eventually they'll be stuck in space or get sucked into a black hole or something.
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>>16522133
Is that from a doujin? I'm fairly certain Eirin drinking the Hourai elixir and becoming immortal is fanon, otherwise she wouldn't be able to catch a cold in Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth.
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>>16529597
>I'm fairly certain Eirin drinking the Hourai elixir and becoming immortal is fanon,
Well you're fairly wrong because Yuyuko says flat out in her team ending in IN that her ability won't work on Eirin because Eirin took the elixir.
>IoMIoE
That's a gag manga, dude.
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>>16529597
Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth is a comedy manga that's semi-canon at best. Parts like the party at Remilia's before the events of SSiB are canon. Minor things like Eirin catching a cold should be disregarded.
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>>16522133
Being an absolute immortal would suck once the universe reaches its final days.
Alison's doujin series is probably the best work on this topic.
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>>16529597
For someone who has lived for so long, she's pretty stupid.
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>>16529597
She tells Yuyuko she's also immortal and that her powers won't work on her. Yuyuko is unnerved by all the Hourai immortals.

I'm in the camp that Inaba is more canon than not, especially with respect to character relationships, but that's just a joke to create a funny situation.
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>>16529661
Humans learn because their actions have consequences.

If nothing you do has any consequences, and every day was exactly the same, you wouldn't learn much.
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>>16522133
That Kaguya is very cute
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>>16529660
>Being an absolute immortal would suck once the universe reaches its final days.
If it's possible to be immortal then the universe doesn't have any final days. Immortals are still part of the universe.
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>>16529621
>Yuyuko says flat out in her team ending in IN that her ability won't work on Eirin because Eirin took the elixir
>>16529673
>She tells Yuyuko she's also immortal and that her powers won't work on her
Actually, she doesn't say that. These are assumptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9w_otfVAI

If anything, she was referring to Kaguya or the elixir itself.
>>16529631
What does being a gag/comedy manga have to do with its canonicity? It seems like an accurate depiction of what life in a place where a trickster rabbit, an immortal princess who's probably bored out of her mind most of the time, a genius pharmacist and her pet (who's arguably the most 'normal' of them all) all live together is like.
>Minor things like Eirin catching a cold should be disregarded.
It's not something that is only mentioned offhandedly. If it's the plot of an entire chapter, then it's not minor.
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>>16529621
>>16529631
>>16529673
Actually. Eirin might be bluffing to some degree. We know from Mokou that you need at least two tastes to become immune to illnes. But if she took only one then Yuyuko's powers probably doesn't work on her but she may not be completely immortal. She's sly enough to do that.
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>>16529863
That actually does kinda make sense. The first taste only removes aging. Although it's not clear exactly how Yuyuko's power kills people, it's a possibility that she just instantly ages them to the point where they are fated to die. If this is the case, then the first taste of the Hourai would protect somebody from it.
Of course, it's much more likely Yuyuko's power is completely different, and Eirin is just immortal.
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Does Yuyuko's power even work on other Lunarians?
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>>16530030
Do you mean it as in
>others than Yuyuko
or
>others than Eirin/Kaguya
?
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>>16530030
Does Yuyuok's powers even work?
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>>16529829
>Actually, she doesn't say that. These are assumptions.
She does, the english translations in the game are just garbage; particularly the endings.
>それに私は、姫の能力で作られた薬を服用している。
She says she drank it, Yuyuko goes "argh no that means I can't kill you", then the off-dialogue text notes that Yuyuko can't kill those who've drank the Elixir. It's really clear-cut.

>What does being a gag/comedy manga have to do with its canonicity?
Rather that being a gag manga in and of itself, the point is that ZUN didn't write it and had no known supervision over it. He just let Araki write whatever he wanted for comedic freedom, more or less.

>>16529863
>We know from Mokou that you need at least two tastes to become immune to illnes
The whole sips thing has never really been founded on anything concrete and is never otherwise referenced. It's extremely likely that it's just poetic, but at the very least it shouldn't be considered seriously as a thing.

>>16529949
>Although it's not clear exactly how Yuyuko's power kills people
While it definitely isn't "clear", it's very much implied to be the same as the Saigyou Ayakashi, where the wording is that she "invites them to death". With the tree, essentially people would just go sit under it, fall asleep and die somehow. Considering her ability evolved from the ability to control departed souls, it might as well just be that she forces your soul to leave your body just as if you had died naturally.
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>>16533870
>Araki
Arata*, not sure why I wrote that
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