What does /jp/ think of the MMD community?

needs more futa

>>16506892
About how much would you say is currently futa?

>>16506925
not enough

Repetitive and boring. Sometimes interesting things come out of it.

"I'm not going to give you this model because it's mine!"

>>16507269
"Erotic pose is forbidden!"

>>16507431
>>16507269
I like when they put a password anyone with a basic knowledge of Japanese can figure out but people come here and beg for help because they're illiterate.

I wish MMDers would all animate their videos. I don't really mind if the animation is not good or even average, as long as they stopped pumping out that still image stuff.

>>16506556
better than this shithole

MMD is fun, but I wish the community wasn't made up of mostly teen girls. It's nice if you can find a community going with more mature people who are more independent and aren't going to be doing some extreme rule lawyering, but I find either it's too inactive and slowly dies off (like the TDCG threads here), or just grows too big and ends up drawing in too many annoying people.

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Any clue where to find MMD models of the Sega Hard Girls?

>>16507679
Teen girls are the best thing to have in a fanbase. They're the only ones who truly care.

I spend a shitton of time watching MMD picture shows and dance videos on Nicovideo, but I don't know jack shit about "the community" or whatever retarded drama might surround the community except what filters through to /jp/, and I feel like I'm better off for it.

That said, the closest I ever got to interacting with the MMD community was thinking about installing it, so my opinion is pretty irrelevant here.

>>16508083
They were given out with Windows 100%, iirc

I really want them too.

>>16506556
I like when it's used to tell random stories, but sadly most of the time is copypasted dance gargabe.

>ecchi.iwara.tv

>>16506556
I enjoy fapping to the occasional lewd loli MMDs I find, but I couldn't give a single shit about what the community looks like. Especially the western part of it.

I love watch MMD videos in youtube/niconico. and I really wanted to use MMD to try create my own animations. but after I read all of these "drama" and "muh model", I just give up.

mostly secondary filth and big memers.

All the dance videos are literally pointless. Anything else is poorly animated and incredibly amateur.

I do not like mmds.

>>16508579
there is literally nothing wrong with enjoying amateur secondary filth

>>16508597
im fine with secondary stuff but im not with amateur stuff. The majority of mmd releases are really low effort and just a waste.

The mmd community is just trash and is a terrible echo chamber of poorly produced meme shit vids.

>>16508640
I'm okay with amateur work because the people producing it are, well, amateurs. Most picture shows are more like not-particularly-artistic comics than anything else - you're probably reading it for the dumb humor or the story and not because the visual presentation is actually impressive.

I was about to compare it to Walfas in the sense that it allows people to tell visual stories even if they have the artistic skill of a dead fish, but I guess that wouldn't have helped my point.

>>16508535
The laziness and whining by people who don't want to make their own models and motion data is as bad as the "muh model" types.

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>>16508710
Are you serious?

Cancerous like any modding community.
"original design pls no steal!"

Doesn't matter if it is Skyrim, MMD or Honey Select, it attracts the worst kind of "artists".
I say "artists" because really they are autists with the same exact design processes and same-face out the ass.

The Japanese and Chinese community seem to be the worst for this. That's the sad part.

>>16508783
>Are you serious?
Literally the worst thing a "muh model" person can do when throwing a shitfit is take his models off the internet, in which case he's returned to being the same as everyone who never made a model.

And even then they never disappear from the internet anyway.

>>16506556
They make fun videos to watch?

No comment other than that because I'm trying to live life right.

>>16506556
Didn't the owner of some really large MMD website have a meltdown because everyone kept putting passwords on their *.rar files?

There is only one MMD maker I care about and that's meet.

>>16509831
Yes. he just closed the website and wrote "do not use MMD".

>>16510977
I'd like to see that. Any clue what the url was? It should still be up on the international web archive.

>>16511257
http://mikudance.info is what I think they're talking about.

>>16508083
I loved this show. It had an OVA recently, but there's practically no chance of ever being subbed

>>16512833
No one ever did the Gdgd fairies movie or any of narihero either.

>>16509831
Why didn't the owner just put sanity checks on the uploads? What a princess.

>>16512887
Why didn't your mother use sanity checks before birthing you?

He's mad about the community hiding all resources behind passwords, not uploads on his site.

There are so many commonly used songs that will make me close a video just by hearing the first few notes of it. MMD makers need to get more music.

>>16513742
It has infinitely more to do with whoever makes motions for the music than the music itself. Motions are hard, especially for long dance sequences and shit.

How does animating in MMD compare to animating in Source FilmMaker?

>>16512833
Give me a raw and a translated script and I'll sub this shit as long as it's not like 20 episode long. I don't even know what the show is but whatever, I'm bored.

t. bored 90's subber, also drunk

>>16508895
There's the /jp/ spirit!

>>16515024
The original episodes were 11 minutes long. I doubt the OVA's longer than 30.

>>16515369
That's even better.

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>>16515072

>>16507679
I don't think the people uploading videos on >>16508368 are teen girls.

>>16509854
I wish he was more active.

too much drama and cancer, good porn tho

Talking about it's Japanese part (the Western part is even worse I'm not even mentioning it), I wish the scene was simply more mature and aware of its potential.

How many MMDer I enjoy or used to enjoy are on hiatus or no longer active? How many plan things and never make them? How many screwed up so badly because they either had lame ideas or had their project killed because of carelessness (thinking about Siraseuni's loss of Red Alert)? How many are way too ambitious and can't keep up anymore?

It's sadly the most interesting and unique people who are the least inactive. On the other side, you have over-saturation of certain genres because people think they're cool. And it's exactly in those genre that people are the most active.

I think MMDers need to be more professional, lucid and cartesian in their approach to creating content. They also need to communicate better (leaving the scene and act if it was normal is not what I consider nice behaviour). This way they will be better organized, less prone screw up things and will be able to maintain a stable and faithful audience. They also have to learn that change or evolution isn't always necessary or mandatory.

I also think something has to do with motivation diminishing over time and the fact that MMD isn't new anymore (fist version was released in 2008). MikuMikuDance might start to show its age.

>>16522619
>It's sadly the most interesting and unique people who are the least inactive.
The least active

>>16522619
>I also think something has to do with motivation diminishing over time and the fact that MMD isn't new anymore (fist version was released in 2008). MikuMikuDance might start to show its age.
Vocaloid is dying, and the subcultures that developed around it, like MMD, utaites and odorites, are following it to the grave.

>>16508307
I found a number of torrents for the Windows 100% January 2015 issue where they were given away, but none of them have seeds or have had seeds for months.

There's people on deviant art who have them but they're playing the mother may I game by requiring people to message them directly for the models.

I already don't like deviant art, but I have a feeling that dealing with deviant art + mmd will be too frustrating. I just want to animate the Sega Hard Girls since the models are the same ones used to create the show.

ive stolen models from em to put in other games before. dats about all its good for really

>>16508850
modding communities always have some great folks mixed in with all the cancer. ive only ever really been in the community for modding smaller games though, so perhaps its less cancerous than for super popular ones. or at least its easier to spot the non cancer.

>>16524069
Modding for hentai games seem to be less cancerous as a whole, though to be fair, the members of the Japanese modding communities for them have to be 18 years or older.

If the underage are willing to be autist about rules and copyrights chances are they won't break the the law and play a game you have to be over 18 to play.

The stupidest fucking thing about the Western MMD community and copyright is that none of them actually understand it. None of the terms and rules set by the Japanese are backed by international law. Only Japanese should care about them because only the Japanese government can enforce them and only on its own citizens.

Japanese businessmen force that shit to be on lockdown so that people will buy their shit, but the weebos interpret it as being "respectful" to the community and adopt JP's patented brand of xenophobia to turn on people of their own culture so senpai'll notice them.

It's fuckin' pathetic all around really. The only winners in the MMD community are the people who own the companies that employ the model makers. Everyone else is a fucking loser otherwise.

Sega Hard Girls:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6n26mfmf4nt2gby/2015_January_Kio_-_SeHa_Girls.rar

A collection of MMD models from Windows 100% from 2009 to 2015:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/as08a6la6bt5r/Windows_100%25_models

>>16524275
Offline:
2010 January ISAO - Rio Kiyoha
2010 November ISAO - Iroha Nekomura
2011 July ISAO - Nekomura Iroha Magician
2011 September ISAO - Yushikiro Mai
2012 February Mamama - SeeU

>>16506556
They should feel Grateful Monty Oum borrowed their models

>>16524608
Sorry, I only found it. I don't own it.

I don't understand the hate about model usage guidelines. Putting down some sort of rules is necessary anyhow because many models are good enough that they can be used commercially. Most Japanese modelers are quite generous in what they allow.

Of course, it'd be better if they also all provided guidelines in English, but that's not realistic, and machine translation will get the meaning across without problem for the most part to anyone who actually tries.

>youtube-dl is working on iwara again
It's fucking time.

>>16528970
>Putting down some sort of rules is necessary
No, it's not.

No other 3D models community does this. It goes without saying that if a company uses someone else's creation for a commercial purpose that the original owner can file a lawsuit for violation of copyright. Literally every business knows this and most people old enough to produce such content do too. You don't see Pepsi downloading MMD videos and using them to make commercials.

Having to constantly tell people something so obvious is nothing short of nagging. It just demonstrates that even though a model is being shared the author never really let the model go and would rather be looking over people's shoulders while they use it even though it's actually just a copy of their work and in reality doesn't actually affect them.

The thing is, MMDers are mostly underage and for the most part ignorant of how laws actually work. Worse, they think whatever nonsense they scribble as "usage guidelines" could ever hold up in a court of law. No judge would ever take a usage guideline seriously and even then there's no means to enforce them.

The fact of the matter is most modeler's "guidelines" are based on Japanese culture of getting along and frankly have no place on the internet as we know it. They're ideal if not antiquated ideas best suited for small communities that fall flat when applied to the billions of people on the web.

It's kind of like when Square Enix forced the internet to include a very specific copyright message on all Final Fantasy XIV videos and disallowed people to monetize them. Basically Youtube content creators either decided not to cover XIV at all or just give a big "fuck you" to them for thinking they could keep their genie in its bottle.

Just like their stance on Women's Rights, Japanese understanding of the internet is 10 years behind ours and the MMD community reflects this.

>>16529598
>Worse, they think whatever nonsense they scribble as "usage guidelines" could ever hold up in a court of law. No judge would ever take a usage guideline seriously and even then there's no means to enforce them.
Copyright applies to 3D models, just as it applies to tunes, characters, code, and photographs, even if used for non-profit purposes. Nobody would ever sue for it because there would never be anything to recover, but legally you have a right to stop people from using your models via DMCA, even if nobody would ever file one.

But you and I know both know it was never about the law in the first place, so why bitch about the specifics of the law? All you seem to be bitching about is that some people want to "get along" and they should be pissed on because their understanding of the internet is outdated.

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>>16524002
Could yo link their deviantart? I have an old one and am willing to ask for you.

>>16529708
Thank you very much! Sorry, but there's no need. The Seha girls were linked to here: >>16524275

Probably where the person on deviant art got theirs from unless they really ordered their copy of the Windows 100% magazine. (I doubt it.) When it was published it was only 600 yen but now scalpers are selling it for $40 or about six times the original price.

>>16529806
I see. Thank goodness for you, anon.

>>16529598
Who said anything about big companies? For example, anyone can take models, rehost them without password, and link to them in a blog and make money from advertising.

The Japanese MMD community is much larger than the Western MMD community and polices itself pretty effectively. Of course, it helps that many viewers actually care about these issues.

A corporate rightsholder trying to enforce copyright is completely different from a hobbyist trying to control how his creation is used.

Why are you talking about DMCA and copyrights and stuff? Most of the shit Japs write is like "Don't use for porn, sexual dances, or display her in her underwear kthx."

The majority of their models are of characters from existing ips anyway.

>>16531076
>anyone can take models, rehost them without password, and link to them in a blog and make money from advertising.
This is what the model creators should be doing with their models.

>>16529598
> The fact of the matter is most modeler's "guidelines" are based on Japanese culture of getting along and frankly have no place on the internet as we know it. They're ideal if not antiquated ideas best suited for small communities that fall flat when applied to the billions of people on the web.
But surely you don't think that the "internet as we know it" is eBaum's World.

>>16531556
It sadly is. Maybe not in 4chan, but most of the most popular Twitter and Facebook pages are made entirely of stolen content.

Is there any mmd that can compete with this though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nykDbhw7r9Y

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Ehi guys, talking of MMD, anyone of you have a link for download the Kantai Collection Airfield Princess model? The author removed it for some reason and I can't find it anywere... Very annoying.

I feel like half the Touhou MMD videos on nico are just the same 3 dance motions but with different models.

Just searching for 東方 + MMD + lamb results in almost 650 results.

desu i'm just a crossboarder who searched "MMD" on the catalog since i thought it was worth a shot

will anyone please throw some MMD vids my way where the camera is stationed solely or mostly behind the model's back? i don't even care if the model has no genitalia- i just want bare rump from behind, but most MMDs (even the sexual ones) seem so crazy hyperactive in the camera and dancing.

i literally don't care for that stuff, i just want pussy from behind. much love

>>16542052
>The author removed it for some reason
Because he's a fag.

Needs better porn

>>16542612
>most MMDs seem so crazy hyperactive in the camera
Yeah that's frustrating as hell. 99% of everyone doesn't know how to properly edit

>>16550755
rather, personally i see it as capitalizing on the same phenomenon you see with "memes" today (though it's not limited to modern memes)

my understanding of it is, you're indulging in new content, so it activates the reward center of your brain, thus giving you a temporary high of, "i have experienced something new, thus have become better equipped to know what to avoid and what to pursue to remain safe and produce offspring"

but in this age of unlimited content at one's fingertips it's just abuse of being human

i find it really misguided, anyhow. i feel more satisfied with naked flesh (which is the end goal of life anyway, cause breeding etc.) than getting drunk on new knowledge

>>16506556
>Everything is behind a secrit club and makes you jump hoops around to get stuff
Shit.

>>16550803
Can I buy some pot from you my dude?

Basically this >>16507269

I was interested first in the MMD community, even planned to make a /jp/ game with some cutes, but I got pissed at the hole "my modifs do not redistribute or even copy!!!" bullshit.

>>16542357
Adapting existing dances is about 100 times easier than copying new ones. I like them anyway.

>>16531595
Most 4chan pages are stolen content. All the images are stolen and all the media we discuss is pirated.