13th Official Touhou Project Popularity Poll

Alice should be No. 1 in all fields.

>>16413526
What does partners mean? People that have made official Touhou stuff that are not ZUN, like Alphes for example?

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Alice

>>16413552
Partners refers to which characters you think have a great dynamic together. But knowing this fanbase, there's going to be a lot of misinterpretation of it being shipping.

At first I thought it was for the AoCF team-ups, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

>>16413526
Check the catalogue next time, anon.
>>16413497

>>16413552
Shipping

>>16413561

get a load of this faggot

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>>16413556
Alice goes in all fields.

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Liberate the dolls!
Vote for Medicine!

>>16413560
It's one of many possible interpretations, not a misinterpretation.

>>16413743
"Quick note that the pairings section is meant to be 'what teams you want to see in AoCF' not 'who do you want to smooch', so choose wisely."

From MoTK.

>>16413958
I'm going to need a real source.

>>16413560
>But knowing this fanbase, there's going to be a lot of misinterpretation of it being shipping.
>>16413561
>Shipping
Nice.

>>16413526
>>16413958
So how can I choose a good parnter for my favorite touhou without coming off as a person obsessed with that relationship nonsense?

>>16414314
You don't.
Just don't vote, the shipping shitters will be the overwhelming majority anyway

>>16413568
>>16414079
Shipping is cancer.
But you're blind if you truely believe that this "partner" vote won't boil down to yuri faggotry.

VAMPIRES BANZAI!!!
VAMPIRES BANZAI!!!
VAMPIRES BANZAI!!!

I wonder who will be in the Aki sandwich this year.

Maybe if we all vote for the Aki sisters, it will be Rinnosuke and we will get some hot porn out of it!

Take my vote, fortune teller dude.

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I voted for
1. Ran!
2. Yuuka!
3. Flan!
4. Cirno!
5. Shizuha!
6. Minoriko!
7. Reimu!

>>16416135
>Aki sisters Internet Defence Force
Why not the "Aki Internet Defence Sisters"? Sounds better, no?

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>>16413556
>>16413636
Indeed

Sorry, I don't give out my email address to any shady website that asks for it.

That fucking Partner poll for 15.5 will just be a big shipping poll so I didn't even bother to vote for 2 characters who actually appeared in 14.5 and who would make a good couple because the shippers will just vote for some random shit like Remilia/Flandre

Why does the partners poll being filled with shipping nonsense somehow invalidate it? Someone voting for Marisa/Alice could be a rational fan who enjoys the team's dynamic, or they could be a rabid shipper, and you would never know the difference.

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>>16418354

I would know the difference because I know Marisa x Reimu is canon.

>>16420148
I wonder at which point of my slow descent into absolute social isolation I'll start mistaking every kind of amiable human interaction for romantic feelings

>>16414025
The source is from the poll site, which says that the reintroduction of Best Partners is in commemoration of AoCF. So the implication is that it's about duos, but it will amount to shipping anyways.

>>16418184
They claim that they don't store emails; the voting IDs are all it cares about and you're free to use a one-time-use email address. It doesn't make sense to store them when a huge number of people use temporary emails to get their IDs already.

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Got my votes in!
Will we get a meme winner again this year, or will Reimu and Marisa stay in top 2?

>>16422266
Main PCs everyone and their moms know are ok, but if another character who had effort put in wins is meme?
Ok.

With how much she has been pushed lately I see Reisen getting a high ranking

>>16422281
Yeah that really worked for Mamizou.

>>16422284
Mamizou is fundamentally unlikeable, so no matter how much ZUN pushes her, she'll never get popular. On the other hand, Reisen was popular already, and the publicity could actually influence her ranking positively

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I voted for my favourite unpopular characters, but the result will always be the same

>>16413537
even Yuukas' fields?

>>16422266
given what happened over in sports (Cubs/Leicester City/Cronulla-Sutherland to name just three) the past year, I would not rule anything out there and am even prepared for that to happen

>>16422266
Shitty Meme will. I presume it being Reisen being it considering how hard Zun pushed her this year.

Can you vote 7 times for the same character or does it count as 1 vote?

>>16413526
I voted for
Seija
Sanae
Reimu
Marisa
Junko
Miko
Hecatia

>>16413526
Now that I think about it, maybe Mokou will be higher than usual because of the chinese meme?

>>16422294
Forbidden Scrollery made me appreciate Mamizou.

>>16422547
why Junko?

>>16422502
It says right there on the voting page. No duplicates allowed.

>>16422688
Sorry man, this is my very first time voting.

>>16422386
At least you voted! That's the first step towards making a difference!

>>16422656
Maybe he likes Junko.

>>16422585
That's exactly why I didn't want to vote for her. She's already going to be high up, so I wanted to give the vote to someone not as popular.

>>16422585
That and the ULiL extra stage where she was the final boss

>>16423030
Doesn't she also have a new theme? I remember listening to some remix when watching that battle. Wasn't it Okuu's theme?

>>16423042
You're right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSFRwdpZ6m4&t=77s
It's a remix of Soku's boss theme

>>16423051
How cute of Tasforo. I already like this theme more than ULiL's RFtM version.

>>16423056

I was a little disappointed of the Immortal Smoke remix but Unknown X really does sound nice, also it fits Mokou pretty nicely

>>16423072
Doesn't it? Also I think it was a great way to show that Mokou in finally in the game after being scrapped in Soku.

>>16423051
Sounds pretty good.
I think Unknown X is under appreciated in general.

>>16423229

I voted for it on the poll because I thought nobody else would do it and I don't want to see it on the bottom of the list

>>16422935
Don't be ridiculous, nobody likes Junko.

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>>16423421
>Don't be ridiculous, nobody likes Junko.
Fuck you, dude, I'm putting Junko in first.

>>16423469
That's why he called you a nobody

How do I get a voting ID?

>>16423480
Put in your email and do the captcha.

>>16423480
Push the big red button

Then click the first blue link in chinese

Type your e-mail, ignore the second box if you haven't voted before, complete the captcha and hit enter

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>>16423469
Not him, but Junko is nice. You have good taste, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV-ccQkW-0M

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>>16423483
Thanks

>>16413526
Yuyuko
Sakuya
Youmu
Kasen
Reisen
Satori
Sagume

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>>16422450
Don't forget about the year's greatest Cinderella story

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I love Tojiko

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>>16423469
Junko
Kokoro
HecaT
Miko
Futo
Tojiko
Seiga

>>16423421
Junko is awesome, the sole reason I'm not voting for her is that we only have 7 character picks.
>>16423553
Really good list...that filename though.

I hope Little Princess stays in the top 10.

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HINA
I
N
A

HINA BROS WW@???

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Yuyuko would be glad if you could vote for her. If you don't vote Yuyuko, you don't like Japan.

Characters:
1. Satori (I really hope she once again will stay in top 10)
2-7. Okuu, Marisa, Alice, Kogasa, Remilia, Sagume

Pairings:
1. Satori x Koishi
2-5. Remilia x Flandre, Aki sisters (I love sister/family relationships), Marisa x Alice, Alice x Patchouli

Music
1. Necrofantasia
no other votes because voting in this section without knowing Japanese is really painful

I lost my touhou sort

5-7 is going to be a crapshoot

>>16424109
Don't worry, I voted for her

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Rate my taste in music.

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>>16424109
Nothing personnel, kidd, but I fucking hate Touhou and Japan, so I'm voting for Clownpiece.

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>>16424109
Don't worry, she's my top girl.
Maybe if I keep on voting for her, when I die I'll get to go to Hakugyokurou.

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Byakuren
Tenshi
Remilia
Star Sapphire
Mokou
Shinki
Hecatia

Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhlXhaS3OkU
Beyond Planck in an Instant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7qu1prSFQU (MIDI)
The Venerable Ancient Battlefield ~ Suwa Foughten Field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlqR94K0sM
Witch of Love Potion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhQYf2knIxQ
Izanagi Object
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dChK90nALf8 (MIDI)
Romantic Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLpRREiQQRo
Rural Makai City Esoteria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvQX04YzjVE
Pure Furies ~ Whereabouts of the Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV-ccQkW-0M
Old Adam Bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLYQsikwMQ (MIDI)
Last Occultism ~ Esotericist of the Present World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJQD-w5ODcg

Youmu
Mokou
Sakuya
Byakuren
Satori
Junko
Great Catfish

>>16426237
Hecatia is cute! CUTE!

Yuuka
Fortune Teller
Toyohime
Kogasa
Parsee
Mima
Hecatia

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I refuse to participe because I like all girls, music and games equally. Thank you.

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>want to vote
>have to use translator constantly

We should do one of these polls ourselves. I know the Toho sort guy comes to /jp/ and he already has a database of characters and songs, I'm no coder but I don't think it would be too hard to create a poll. Would be fun to compare the tastes of the Japanese fans with ours.

>>16429809
You can just check tohosort threads in archives:
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S11350674#p11354806
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S11734348#p11744671
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S11935664#p11947996
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S14403146#p14431103

Results are not representative (usually it's only 50-60 sorts), but you still can see some tendencies.
For example Okuu was indeed extremely popular here in 2013-14. There was always one active Okuu thread. It was /jp/ - Okuu Culture. But I guess people got tired of her and she lost majority of her popularity in 2015-2016.
Reimu would never get top 1 (or even top 5) in /jp/ unlike in thwiki polls. And actually it seems majority would agree that Marisa > Reimu.
/jp/ likes hags like Bykauren, Yukari and Yuyuko.

My votes were as followed:
Sanae
Reimu
Alice
Suwako
Yuyuko
Nue
Utsuho

>>16429809
>>16429993
Hags would be high (I can see Yukari winning), Kasen would be high, the playable character who'd get the most votes would be Youmu.

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I see more people saying they'll vote Hecatia. Is it because of the memes?

>>16424225
Fucking shipper

>>16430321
I like Hot Topic-chan. She's very cute and fugging Greek goddesses typically has funky results.

I'm more proud of voting on this poll than in the election

>>16431110
Aren't we all

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I fucking love google translate

>>16432673
honestly we should just use literal translations of everyone's name by default

it would really give you that japanese feeling

>>16429787
>>16432673
I think you're better off having Touhou wiki on another tab so you can look up the kana/kanji for your characters/songs/works if you don't know them.

>>16432708
I've personally somehow managed to reach this idiotic spot where I can identify every Touhou character by their kanji in their names via pure immersion even though I have no idea what those kanji are. Up until about two minutes ago I figured the translation for 燐 was just "Rin."

>>16432673
At this point I know most of the kanji of my favourites, even though I don't even study Jap

>>16432727

At this point, I knew the order in which you encountered the characters in which game and went off of referencing the ones I knew for certain.

>>16435080
The first time I voted, I had problems with finding Mima. Turns out she's (still) in the SoEW section instead of the HrtP one for some reason.

It was posted in the other thread as well, but here's a script you can run on the page to translate the dropdown boxes. Just the character names for now.
http://drakeirving.github.io/touhoudict/

give feedback

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>>16424109
I don't know what I'm doing.

>>16436064
Invalidating your vote

>>16436064
The field right above that one is where you choose the character you want to vote for. You're messing with the comment field.

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>>16423508
>10 Slut Sanae
Hahaha oh wow

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I voted for:

Tojiko
Flandre
Sanae
Yuyuko
Momiji
Kosuzu
Kogasa

i wish i could vote for more than 7 tbn :/

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1. Sakuya
2-7. Sanae, Yuyuko, Reimu, Marisa, Yuuka, Renko
Do any of you keep records of past votes you've done? Has your taste changed much?

>>16413526

When is deadline for submitting? I want to think about it another day. Damn i hate how these always sneak up on me.

>>16439368
Deadline is on Saturday. And since it's already Friday in Japan, I suggest you vote soon.

>>16439405

I checked the website. Looks like it will still be there in 10 hours which is all I need.

Maribel
Renko
Reisen
Yuyuko
Hina
Alice

>>16439413
Alright, good to hear!

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you voted for him, right?

Yuuka
Kogasa
Toyohime
Sagume
Hecatia
Parsee

>>16439345
Kanako and Byakuren replaced Mokou and Keine. The latter are the first 2hus I got to know but...I don't like them as much as I used to do. They're still cool.
As for music, Kanako's theme, Byakuren's theme and Demistify Feast replaced EoSD Stage 5, IN Stage 4 and Heian Alien.

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Interesting image I saw on Twitter. Someone predicted the results.

>>16446434
>Someone predicted the results.
It's estimation based on twitter posts and obviously they are not 100% accurate.
When you finish voting you can click a button to post results on twitter. Not all people tweet about their votes. And tweets don't contain all 7 girls due to 140 symbol limit.

>>16446487
Ohh, yeah. Forgot about the Twitter posting.

Still interesting seeing how they fare. I don't expect too much change, honestly, aside from a few cases.

When's the results?

>>16446698
The 22nd IIRC

Late vote, just before closing.

Saigyouji Yuyuko
Yakumo Ran
Shameimaru Aya
Hijiri Byakuren
Reiuji Utsuho
Imaizumi Kagerou
Kishin Sagume

Kobito of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv1yYDzvFtQ
Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhlXhaS3OkU
Bloom Nobly, Ink-black Cherry Blossom ~ Border of Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcfQxcRGg8s
Lullaby of a Deserted Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMTsG_KszJw
Alice Maestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS6JkYfgeQs
Dr. Latency's Sleepless Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCdjZrdl-lY
Faraway Voyage of 380 000 Kilometers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWOP5XNN12M
Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWNDB1juaeo
Frozen Capital of Eternity (Dr. Latency's version, can't find online)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwul_WIvvs
Wind God Girl (Bunkachou version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ZSxZntjfg

>>16446434
That looks dreadful, I hope this poll is wrong

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Got in just in time

Hecatia
Seiga
Parsee
Raiko
Yuugi
Suika
Komachi

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>>16446782
Why Hecatia?

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Almost didn't make it

Yuyuko Saigyouji
Clownpiece
Hecatia Lapislazuli
Kogasa Tatara
Suika Ibuki
Byakuren Hijiri
Murasa Minamitsu

Results are up.

http://toho-vote.info/result_list_character.php
http://toho-vote.info/result_list_music.php
http://toho-vote.info/result_list_title.php
http://toho-vote.info/result_list_partner.php

>>16446921
And my favorite loses to Marisa by the tiniest margin ever. Again.
Someone ought to explain Youmu at 4th place though.

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>>16446921
I'm kind of content with this result.

>>16446921
Sagume made it!!!

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>>16446921
Fortune Teller is in 60th place. It's a fucking miracle.

>>16446921
Satorin in the top １０！

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>>16446947
He's more popular than Mamizou, that makes me happy

Also, really happy that Hartmann's Youkai Girl got third again. Kinda bummed by SA still being 5th.
>>16446947
Playable WHEN?

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>>16446921
>14 now
>was 15 last time and 16 before
I'm so happy for her!

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>>16446921
>77 Demon righteousness and rare God Sagume
It's not happening.

>>16446921
>11 Mokou
>5 Reach For The Moon ~ Immortal Smoke
>10 Horaiyama Teruya and Fujiwara Inuki
What a good day

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Sanae will forever be 12. Not that I mind, of course.

>>16446947
This poll is amazing just for that.

>>16446921
Yukari is 17!

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>>16446997
Just like her age!

>>16446921
Almost exactlty the same top 20 as last year. Lack of new games/works is showing.

1. Reimu - 10674
2. Marisa - 8990
3. Koishi - 8874
4. Youmu - 8495
5. Sakuya - 8284
6. Flandre - 8202
7. Remilia - 7533
8. Satorin - 6847
9. Alice - 6563
10. Aya - 6476
11. Mokou - 6298
12. Sanae - 5092
13. Reisen - 4840
14. Yuyuko - 4609
15. Tenshi - 4538
16. Kokoro - 4469
17. Yukari - 4300
18. Momiki - 4174
19. Kogasa - 4068
20. Patchouli - 3676
21. Sagume - 3674

No Scarlet sandwich this year. But Aki's sandwich is still there, this time it got Lunasa.

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>>16446921
I'm glad to see Kogasa actually surpassed her previous high spot.

>>16446921
Phew.

>>16439345
I've always voted for Reimu, Utsuho, Aya, Remilia, Nue, Reisen and Yukari.

>>16447014
Top 20 pairs
1. Reimu x Marisa - 12063
2. Maribel x Renko - 5178
3. Marisa x Alice - 4946
4. Sakuya x Remilia - 4121
5. Komeijis - 3679
6. Scarlets - 3586
7. Meliing x Sakuya - 3186
8. Youmu x Yuyuko - 3126
9. Keine x Mokou - 3082
10. Kaguya x Mokou - 2771
11. Koishi x Kokoro - 2576
12. Yuyuko x Yukari - 2402
13. Daiyousei x Cirno - 2391
14. Reimu x Yukari - 2247
15. Seija x Shinmyoumaru - 1866
16. Aya x Momiji - 1862
17. Komachi x Shiki - 1744
18. Flandre x Koishi - 1725
19. Youmu x Reisen - 1688
20. Doremi x Sagume - 1594

>>16447006
moving up in the world

>>16447037
Fucking Malice shippers need to leave.

>>16423469
Lol he likes junk o

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I am happy for Kogasa!

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>>16446921
Still in 53rd place. All's good.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=QwNFL7LwB6o

>>16447072
>shippers
People voted for their favourite pairs and not necessarily for their shipings.
Marisa x Alice is objectively one of the best pairs in Touhou. They are canonical friends, they were teamed up together 2 times in official games, they are both magicians, blondes, cute, they even sometimes sleep together.

>>16447100
Fuck you, grazing animal Mima, it's not a happy day when Aki sandwitch still exists.

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>>16446921
How boring.
Why is SDM still so popular?

I feel that people who voted for the games just chose their favourite cast instead of rating them based on their actual gameplay and gimmicks.

The pairs and music were also really predictable.

>>16447127
>I feel that people who voted for the games just chose their favourite cast instead of rating them based on their actual gameplay and gimmicks.
I don't agree. For example IN is above PCB, but PCB characters are more popular than IN's. MoF is above SA, but SA characters are more popular than MoF's. And finally TD is 13th which sounds perfectly right.

>>16447037
Whoever didn't vote for Junko and Hecatia is a Lunarian scum. Or, worst case scenario, Chang'e herself.

>>16447170
Explain EoSD being first.
Also MoF above SA makes no sense gameplay-wise.

>>16447127
It's almost like secondaries make up the majority of the 2hu fandom.

>>16447098
How is 53rd place good at all?

>>16447181
EoSD being first doesn't need explanation. This game made 2hu what it is now.

MoF above SA is because people rate game as a whole and not only gameplay. For example in those votes people consider MoF to have the best music overall (even though separate tracks are not popular). It has its own unique oriental feeling and atmosphere. And don't forget SA is harder and thus less enjoyable for majority. But I want to note that even hardcore players and scorefags prefer MoF more (at least in the west).

>>16447200
95% of voters have beaten at least one game on easy.

>>16447261
beating a game on easy doesn't make you a primary.

>>16447261
I always thought that people hated MoF's bombing system.
I still don't see how it's a better game than SA.

Also why is LoLK above DDC? Or LLS above MS?

>>16447127
>the 3 top games are some of the easier ones
It's pretty obvious why

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>>16447271
So should it be normal? Or Lunatic?

>>16447286
>I always thought that people hated MoF's bombing system.
People usually dislike bomb=power system and resulting bomb spam. But it's the same in SA. You just have different effect for each team and one less bomb per life.

>>16447339
I'd say that he needs to have beaten all the windows games on normal at the very least to be cosidered someone who cares.

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>>16446921
KOISHI WINS AGAIN BABY

>>16447409
In third

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>>16447409

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>>16447411
Hey, everyone in this damned forum was like "dude get this bitch out of the top ten" so I can't complain that she's 3rd and not first.

>>16447286
I voted MoF above SA mainly because SA was a lot harder for me (and I liked the comfy atmosphere in MoF)

I've 1cc'd every other game on Normal, but I can barely get past Stage 5 in SA, which is frustrating. I guess the fact that I've committed to only using Marisa in all the games makes it worse for me, since the shot types are all pretty bad compared to Reimu A.

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>>16447227
There are 176 places. 53 is not really bad, is it?

But I was mostly saying it because she retained her position from the last poll. She didn't climb up the ranks but she didn't fall any either.

>>16447388
>all the windows games on normal
That's actually pretty strict condition. Not all people can beat these games on normal without weeks of grind. Finishing game on easy still unlocks all dialogues and good ending (except for EoSD and MoF).

Here are results from last year:
http://thwiki.info/th/vote12/result_list_questionnaire.php
Only ~41% of voters have beaten those games on normal.

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>>16447409
I'm just hope Satorin can get high enough to finally be close to her sister.

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F

As a SUPER primary, I only accept those who have a couple thousand hours of primarily scoring gameplay time as "primary".

Secondaries exist purely to inflate my ego, and I'm deeply saddened by the fact that they don't all suck my dick for playing a videogame.

>>16447436
>Only ~41%
Wait, I ignored people who have beaten game on hard/lunatic. So on average each game was beaten on normal by ~61% of people.

Unfortunately it's impossible to say how many people have beaten ALL games on normal.

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>>16447434
>53 is not really bad, is it?

>>16447014
That's really quite a few people that voted it seems, is it always around these numbers?

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>>16447454
>couple thousand hours

>>16447470
Yeah that guy is a moron. A couple thousand hours isn't nearly enough time to master your craft.

>>16447469
2013 - 43,737 votes
2014 - 31,040 votes
2015 - 32,244 votes
2016 - 42,419 votes
2017 - 36,727 votes

>>16447502
2HU IS DED AND FINISHED

>>16447503
2hu was dead and finished but then it got better.

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Where are the nosferatufags at?

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>>16447499

>>16447105
We all know the real reason MAlice is so high.
Fucking yurifags are fucking cancer.

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>>16447014
Sakuya still in top 5 so I'm happy, also a bit glad that Sagume got such a high ranking for being a newhu.
I'm a bit surprised that Youmu took the 4'th place though

>>16447523
Sagume dropped 7 places from last time.
But now she's closer to Seija.

So who's last? actual character that is

>>16447538
oh, didn't know she was that high last year. My bad.

Sagume and Seija pairing didn't even make it to top 20 sadly.

I'm still suprised Youmu got in 4th

>>16447590
Dorks are popular

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>>16447502
2016. Awoo-posting. Resurgence in popularity. How does it all fit together?

>>16447607
LoLK maybe?

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>>16447616
I thought it was such shit?

I don't see why that would have made such a big difference, but I won't pretend to understand the Japanese.

>>16447625
New game. Wow such a mystery.
Just like 2018 poll will have way more people because of th16

>>16447590
Youmu got a lot more "first place votes" than any other character(except Reimu of course) while having nearly the same amount of total points as those within her ranking.
A bit suspicious if you ask me.

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Why do people love this heartless murderer so much?

>>16447625
>I thought it was such shit?
Two shitposters' opinion =/= General reception of the game

>>16447668
I voted for her to keep koishi out of first

>>16447700
General reception of the game is secondaries fapping to clownpiece

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Would've liked her higher but a step up from last year is good enough.

>>16447711
I fap to Clowpy but I'm no secondary I'll have you know

>>16447418
Same, I'm happy she mantained her popularity even with all the haters, although she only needed less than 60 first votes and she would have been second. Putting my hopes for this year in AoCF and in KKHTA's grand finale. Assuming we don't get another tragic coincidence like the one of the Paris attacks.
>>16447443
Hopefully, she really needs another canon appearance. Still bummed ZUN didn't include her in SoPM.

>>16446921
I barely got my votes in

Mokou
Reisen
Marisa
Suwako
Nitori
Sakuya
Parsee because she deserves love

Looks like my favorites ended up in a good spot.

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Medicine went up by 2 places!

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>>16447523
She's still first in my heart.

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>>16446997
>Yukari is 17th place in 2017
Was this all planned?

>>16447772
Yukari will eternally be 17.

>>16447668
Everybody is voting for her just so Koishi won't get first.

>>16447785
Literally "I hate it because it's popular" hipsters.

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>>16447668
It's just a matter of time.

Why does Momiji always get into the top 20 again?

>>16447983
Same reason people vote for Daiyousei: secondaries.

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>>16446921
>Heca moved from 43 to 42
>Above Suika
HELL YEAH!

but why is Sagume so popular

>>16447014
Has Kogasa always been that high?

>>16448047
>>16447601

>>16448100
She was lower last year (22), but she's always been popular for obvious reasons

>>16448150
such as?

>>16448155
;P

>>16448164
wtf i love kogasa now

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>>16448155
She is cute!

>>16448171
Truly unique, I can't think of any other character that's cute no sir

>>16448155
Moe through helplessness

>>16448155
She's moe because she's useless. Her sole reason for her birth is to be scary and she fails at it nearly every time, so she scrambles for odd jobs to justify her existence. Despite her depressing circumstance, she is still consistently happy and that sort of helplessness creates sympathy.

>>16448237
>>16448208
So she's just yet another useless moe character

>>16448249
Pretty much, but since Touhou is actually lacking in them (at least as far as canon personalities go), she manages to be somewhat popular thanks to that

>>16448261
>Touhou
>Lacking moe characters

>>16448273
I don't know who you are quoting, but Touhou is not high on the moe character quota if you keep to official material, even more so if you only consider the games

>>16448249
I guess? She's only a stage 2 boss, and a lot of them get by on moe alone. Her back story is sympathetic, but like most characters, she doesn't have a whole lot to do with the main plot.

>>16448284
She appears in UFO EX and TD Stage 3 as well.

>>16448249
As far as side characters go, she is a bit more developed than most. WaHH revealed she is a skilled blacksmith.

>>16448293
That's hardly character developing, that's just giving her some random skill because she's a boring 1 joke character otherwise

>>16448291
Yeah, but her original set up was for stage 2. Besides, she doesn't do much in TD or UFO EX, she was basically filler.

>>16448298
Random skill? Someone didn't study their Japanese folklore.

>>16448298
I wouldn't call it random when part of her name references iron smelting.

>>16448325
>>16448331
Wrong word
point still stands
it's not character developement

>>16448334
Either way, that kind of fluff is what endears an otherwise forgettable character. If it wasn't for that little snipped she wouldn't ping on my radar at all.

>>16448355
It's not really interesting
just a bit funny

>>16448391
I didn't bother this year. My single vote can overcome to intertia of SDM memes.

>>16448391
Because your favourite 2hu is not high enough, right? Sad!

>>16448397
She's high enough
It's just that the top 20 makes me puke
Especially when I see """characters""" like Momiji so high

>>16448249
She also takes care of the children in the village because they like her and find her funny.

This is Touhou there really isn't much character development outside of the main groups of characters.

>>16448334
If her turning out to be a blacksmith and making a deal with the Hakurei miko to create some of her youkai extermination tools isn't character development by your standards, then I don't know what possibly could be.

I guess I'm happy Tenshi is still on the Top 20 after all these years.

>>16448402
I'm sorry a silly poll bothers you so much.

>>16448435
No you're not

>>16448424
Of course you don't know

>>16448439
How's you guess?

>>16448455
You're not funny
and you made a mistake

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>>16448402
Please mark the charracters that you don't like in this top 20 with some kind of colour.
We'll see if you are a man of a taste or just a butthurt retard shitting on secondaries.

>>16448464
I'll just quote them
>Koishi
>Youmu
>Flandre
>Moko
>Sanae
>Reisen
>Kokoro
>Memeji
>Kogasa

>>16448495
>Youmu
>Sanae
>Reisen
I see. Of course ``true primary'' like you would dislike """""characters""""" who barely appear in official works and haven't been playable in several games... Oh wait.

If you want to brag about your superiority because of your shitty taste you should try /v/.

>>16448537
They're forced, just like Mamizou
The only true protagonists are Reimu and Marisa

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>>16448495
>Youmu
>Mokou
>Reisen
>Kokoro
>Kogasa
Dear god

>>16448542
Jesus fucking christ

>>16448542
By this logic, Marisa is forced too. Even Mima is older than her.

>>16448495
>Reisen
>Kogasa
>Sanae
>Youmu
>>16448542
>forced
Oh so you are one of those

>>16448556
Sanae and Reisen weren't part of the franchise since the second game

>>16448550
>>16448567
Not an argument

>>16448495
I can see not liking one or two of those, or maybe Koishi, Flan, and Momiji for secondary memes, but jesus christ

>>16448581
Yes, god forbid liking any other character than Reimu and Marisa because /jp/ might bully you with this evil word "secondary".

>>16448581
>Not an argument
Neither is calling characters forced for no reason. Having a variety of playable characters and shooting types isn't forced, it's called variety.

>>16448604
You sound really mad my friend

>>16448607
You can have a shitload of shottypes using just 2 characters
But that's not the point
Why would you put Sanae everywhere when she usually has nothing to do with the main plot?

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>>16448495
>>16448542
>>16448581

>>16448615
epin

>>16448613
Because just like Reimu, who also has nothing to do with the plot of any of the games, she's a miko who has to solve incidents.

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>>16448613
Can you please elaborate why Sanae doesn't have anything to do with the main plot? I take it you've read the manuals of UFO, TD, and LoLK, so you can surely tell me. Soku too.

>>16448624
We already have Reimu, she has no place in most games
That's why she's forced and her personality is just terrible
She's also green and ugly

>>16448627
Play the games

>>16448630
I like how "green" is a minus. Made me laugh.

>>16448630
>she has no place in most games
Neither does Reimu by that logic.

>>16448637
I have, and way moreso than you have. If you've played the games, you'd tell me why Sanae has nothing to do with the main plot (which is objectively false).

>>16448649
Reimu has been the protagonist since the very first game
Sanae got introduced in the 10th game
I think your comparison doesn't quite work anon

>>16448651
I've already done, can't you read?

>>16448613
>You can have a shitload of shottypes using just 2 characters

You can, but it won't always look natural. Youmu's sword slashes in TD worked because it was Youmu.

>Why would you put Sanae everywhere when she usually has nothing to do with the main plot?

What does Marisa have to do with the main plot? Most of her existence is solving incidents for the hell of it or because she wants something. She doesn't even belong to a major faction in Gensokyo. If she wasn't Reimu's best friend, she'd be highly irrelevant.

>>16448613
>You sound really mad my friend
I see irony is just too much for your brain.

And you sound like typical shitlord from /v/. Post your scores, my friend.

>>16448661
Unlike Sanae, Marisa offers a nice contrast to Reimu's personality

Sanae is just "youkai hunting is fun :3"

>>16448660
Touhou itself does not have a specific main plot each game follows. The era from MoF to TD, though, has each game lead into the next. Sanae's very relevant in all four of those games, as well as Hisoutensoku. So I don't know what nonsense you're going on about.

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Why are you all replying to shotty? He's just shitposting, he doesn't believe anything he says.

I mean, really guys. "Forced". And you're giving him attention.

If a character has any kind of characterization that character is shit.
Good characters don't get forced on the fans by putting them everywhere and elaborating on their thoughts, feelings, motivations, relations, daily lives and backgrounds.

Why do you keep posting random reaction pictures?

I thought you were a mature board that could handle basic arguments

>>16448660
So just because they were introduced at different games means any perfectly reasonable and logical in-universe explanation as to why Sanae is around in so many games is irrelevant, is that it?

>>16448690
And what is this perfectly reasonable and logical in-universe explanation?

Please, enlighten me
I dare you

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shotty plz beat my PB
you know more about the games than me so this shouldn't be a problem

who's shotty?

>>16448695
She's a miko working for the Moriya Shrine, and just like the Hakurei Shrine, the Moriya Shrine is expected to help deal with whatever incidents that happen in Gensokyo, so since Sanae is the shrine's miko she is the one who does it.
AKA literally the exact same reason as Reimu.

>>16448712
Nah man, she's green and therefore bad.

>>16448712
AKA she's completely irrelevant and offers nothing new compared to Reimu

>>16448712
He didn't respond to my post earlier about the era from MoF to TD since he knows he's completely wrong, so he's just shitposting at this point. Just ignore him from now on.

>>16448731
I don't reply to shitposters

>>16448581
Just like saying x thing is forced

>>16448743
I've given valid arguments

All you guys have done so far is post textless reaction pictures and false equivalences

I bet nobody would be calling me a shitposter if I hadn't mentioned Sanae

>>16448630
>She's also green and ugly
And you wanna be taken seriously when you sperg out this kind of opinions?
ha ha

>>16448764
You asked for my opinion
Now you get mad at me for having one

>>16448774
I took you seriously and gave you civil responses to respond to, but you brushed them off as shitposting for whatever reason. Now everyone's laughing at you.

I barely visit /jp/ nowadays and don't even know who this shotty is. But judging from this post >>16448701 I suspect he is connected to scoring community and IRC. Is #kusoplay still alive and is it still the main source of touhou shitposters in /jp/?

>>16448778
>you brushed them off as shitposting

Oh because you didnt?
>>16448537
>>16448550
>>16448567
>>16448589
>>16448604
>>16448615
>>16448665

>>16448780
I doubt he plays the games often, so no.

>>16448787
Those aren't my posts.

>>16448787
>You
Everyone is laughing at you, not just one anon

>>16448798
And yet you reply to a shitposter
Double standards much?

You know, it's okay to like characters for dumb reasons, and it's also okay not to like characters for dumb reasons.

You lot are a bunch of morons.

>>16448802
I don't see anyone laughing

Nobody can give me a reasonable argument so they just resort to namecalling and other shit

>>16448808
If someone insults your waifu, you must kill them.

Only their life's blood can avenge her honor.

>>16448682
That's not how Shotty shitposts, we are dealing with the LoLK shitposter once again

>>16448495
Looks like people here are really insecure

Here, a /jp/-safe list
>Koishi
>Momiji

Do I fit in now?

>>16448748
>I've given valid arguments
No, you haven't. You said certain characters were "forced".

>>16448844
You said why

>>16448542
So who else would you have as your top 10 if you're already discounting characters like Sanae and Youmu?

>>16448844
Did you even read what I wrote or did you just stopped after reading the word "forced"?

>>16448854
I did, but it wouldn't have been different if I just stopped on forced, that shit really discredits your entire post, even if you are right on the rest.
Then again, it wasn't your opinion what caused the shitfest, it was the way you presented it. Apologise.

>>16448830
shotty IS the LoLK shitposter. And I'd bet good money you're him as well. Fuck off and let people talk about the results of the vote in peace.

>>16448854
Except all of the reasons you gave as to why they were forced were all "They're not Reimu and Marisa" and variations of it

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Why do some people still respond to that one stupid shitposter?

And congratulations to Koishi.

>>16448863
What?
You admit that I was right but still want me to apologise?

>>16448868
If you read my posts then you'd realise that I was telling other anon that Marisa and Reimu are better protagonists because they offer contrasting experiences, unlike Sanae

>>16448872
Because calling my opinion shitposting is rude and uncalled for

I could do the same for you liking Koishi

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>>16448864
>shotty IS the LoLK shitposter.
I don't believe it, it's pretty easy to tell apart SAmireko, shotty and lolkshitposter.
>>16448872
Why? She didn't win, this is who needs to be congratulated, again.

>>16448863
>even if you are right on the rest.
That's some next level teamwork shitposting.

>>16448711
>>16448780
Short research on the W shows it's some kind of recent boogeyman. Maybe born of the Touhou threads on /v/?

If so anyone who actually knows of it or complains about it is just as cancerous as this "shotty"

>>16447542
Depends on what you mean by "actual character" but the lowest ranked boss is Orange at 150

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I don't understand you people

I give you my honest opinion on something and you call me a crossboarder shitposter

I'm sorry for having one, guess I should pretend to like every character and post cute pics

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bump limit reached guys someone make a new thread for this autism also daily reminder youmu is best other opiinons shit

>>16448878
All you said was that Sanae's was too similar to Reimu, somthing that would in theory make her appearances in the games less forced rather than more and criticized her personality by presenting it as one-note intentionally to make her look bad when that's something you can literally do to any character in anything ever.

>>16448915
But that's the reason she's forced
She offers nothing new and yet she's still there for no good reason

>>16448912
This is some low level falseflagging here

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>>16448914
Honestly seeing the autists that showed up towards the end of this thread I'd rather not have a new one.

Also RIP

>>16447014
Reisen didn't even make the top 10 despite ZUN desperately trying to make her relevant and even jamming in a new pairing or two with her?

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See?

Nobody is calling me a shitposter now

Let's post more 53rd best grill

>>16447330
>>the 3 top games are some of the easier ones
Except EoSD is the hardest one after MS.

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>>16448935

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>>16448941
cute cute cute
I love cute non-forced 2hus

>>16448935
>EoSD
>Harder than UFO, SA and LoLK
"No"

>>16447709
>>16447785
but Koishi only won because the poll was unnaturally held months later from the usual time, right after Koishi Day.

and how did Reimu the years before that?

and how did Marisa beat Koishi twice now?

>>16448936
In which universe EoSD is hard?

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>>16448952
You do realize Marisa beats Koishi by a tiny margin, right? Last year, she even had less 1st place votes than Koishi's ones. Haven't checked this time.

>>16448935
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>>16448955
That art style is very cute, such a shame it was wasted on an ugly 2hu

>>16448813
Your "argument" consists of calling every other playable character "forced" which means nothing especially considering half of the characters you complained about aren't playable in mainline games.

>>16448604
>god forbid liking any other character than Reimu and Marisa because /jp/ might bully you with this evil word "secondary".
except liking the most popular characters are what /jp/ considers secondary.

you have to like obscure characters like Sokrates and that one dude Mokou killed.