Umineko Seacats

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Who wrote who?

Reposting from old thread, how do you get comfy reading Umineko? I hate having to press a button all the time. I just want to sit back and read.

>>16409817
>I hate having to press a button all the time
I'm pretty sure it goes into auto-read mode if you press A

>>16409835
There's the thing, I don't like auto-mode either because sometimes I skip the dialogue because I've already read it. I love the voice acting, but it can really double the hours I put into reading Umineko, and it's already a long fucking novel.

>>16409901
Someone remind me again how many words or pages Umineko has? Wasn't it like 5 times of the entire The Lord of the Rings?

>>16409940
Not sure if this is accurate, but one site I found says 1 307 026 words. Lord of the Rings has around 450 000 total

Found this japanese guidebook on how to play the witches game, not sure what it says but it seems pretty interesting
http://hiroosa.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/witchm_sample1.pdf

>>16410031
Wait, is this fan made or official? Never heard of it before

>>16410099
Fan made, the 07expansion account retweeted it a few days ago.

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>>16409744

Thank you for adding Seacats. This makes me very happy.

>>16410031
What are these ancient runes telling me?

>>16410352
Be sure to drink your ovaltine

>>16409940
the WTC series in total is like 4 times the size of war and peace
it's fucking long

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Could Lambda be American?

>>16417200
What makes you say that?

>>16417246
Because she's like the anti-Bern and Bern is pretty Japanese.

>>16409817
How about scrolling? Usually I alternate between scrolling and pressing the keyboard for VNs because I don't like clicking the mouse button.

>>16417248
That doesn't necessarily make her American though. There are plenty of other potential countries she could be from.

>>16417273
florida's more likely than america

>>16418952
Burnt sienna.

Because after that explosion, she's nothing but charcoal.

>>16419621
Make America <cute> again!

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I want to solve mysteries with Erika!

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>>16420413
Being Erika's Watson sounds like it would be really entertaining. Traveling together with Erika everyday, playing around and solving various crimes using twisted logic.

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Edit anon here. Lucifer's edit is just about done.

>>16420413
>>16420477
I want to be Erika's boyfriend who travels around and solves mysteries with her. She'd treat me like shit with others around but once they're gone and we've solved the mystery she'd cuddle up to me in bed at night and admit how much she loves and needs me while blushing.

>>16420413
That's funny, I want to have nonconsensual sex with Erika!

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What's your OTP in Umineko, /seacats/?
Mine is Kumasawa and the guy who drives the boat for the Ushiromiyas during family conferences and for getting Jessica to school.
I bet she and him get up to all sorts of naughty stuff on that boat, besides fishing for mackerel.

stop it you guys
I don't need to keep getting depressed over the lack of Erika porn

>>16409817
auto mode, on my couch, watching on the tv

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B.E.A.T.O.

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>>16424772
bee-ar-tou

RICHIE

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>>16424787
BAY-AH-TOE-REE-TSEE

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>>16424392
Featherine and Ange. Bern and Lambda or Beatrice and Battler are good, too.

Do you think Kumasawa smells like mackerel down there?

>>16424772
>B.E.A.T.O.
Bisexual Erratic And Truly Obstinate.

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>>16424772
Brief
Exclamation
About
Tranny
Orphan

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>>16424772

BEST EVER AND TRULY OMNIPOTENT.

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Butt End Really Needs Killer Ass Slapping To Everyone's Laughter

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>>16425014
Thanks to whoever scanned these

>>16425059
he lives

>>16425097
Actually, I'm not him.

>>16425104
I'm a little disappointed...

How's it feel knowing that there'll never be much decent Umineko merchandise?

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>>16425066

>>16425150
>In nothing but her panties
>Still wearing that flower thing in her hair

>>16425167
I'd still nut in it anyway to be perfectly honest

>>16425014
i wonder what beato's panties smell like

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>>16425187
lavender with a hit of magic

>>16425150
>You will never spend the day hanging out with Erika, the two of you relaxing in bed clad in your underwear, cheerfully discuss the most recent mysteries you've solved together as you cuddle.

>>16425178
Judging by that splotch on her butt, I'd say somebody already did that.

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>>16420413

I want to get drunk off of JD with Erika and drive around the island on oversize Big Wheels and crash into people!

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>>16425239
I want to play strip clue with her.

>>16425265

Jessica or somebody would barge in on you and start yelling.

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>>16425302
Then she can either join in or get lost. And if she keeps making a ruckus just threaten to tell Natsuhi that you saw her sucking off Kanon behind the garden shed.

If you didn't like the romance in Uminek you're probably an ugly fat manchild desu

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>>16425217
Why does casual lewdness suit Erika so well?

>>16425399
It's necessary as a driving plot point on several occasions.
Also to whom are you referring to? Did posts get deleted?

I finished this a few months ago and it never occurred to me to check this place for a thread good thing /a/ and /v/ had them for some reason.

Why did everyone have to be massive dicks and get themselves killed instead of being chill and living happily?

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Because they're all idiots.

>>16426121
meant for >>16426093

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>>16426093
Greed and their own skewed perceptions on reality plus a negative outlook on life really stunted everyone.
I loved seeing Ange get over those issues and grow as a character where her family couldn't.

Lambdadelta is my MOM

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>>16426670
how big are your dad's tits?

>>16421007

2lewd4lucy.

>>16427592
Bigger than mom's.

>>16427592
My dad doesn't have tits, he's a fat old faceless man.

>>16427654
But furniture was made for lewding.

>>16427746
>Implying that Lambda would ever have sex with such a man, let alone get impregnated by him.

>>16427793
You ignorant fool! The fat old faceless man is one of the most powerful sorcerers in existence. He has been traveling the cosmos for cute anime girls to defile for thousands of years. Idols, 2hus and boats... he's been with them all at one point.

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>>16427737
Bullshit! Lambda's the busty one.

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>>16427654
Better?

>>16427945

Tie and crotch is good. She would look better without the side flaps/skirt. (need to see those hips)

>>16424722

Auto mode is too slow for me, I don't even rush it but it's just so slow

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>>16427956
Well, here's what my original idea was.
>>16427963
Do you have the full PS3 port? You can adjust the auto mode speed in that version.

>>16427973

NICE.

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>>16427849
Arguable. Lambda's got more consistent measurements at somewhere around a B-cup. On the other hand, Bern varies anywhere from an A to a C-cup, so it really depends on the artist.

>>16427990
Any ideas for a second outfit? We usually make at least 2.

Also, while I'm still not quite finished with this set, does anyone have a request for who's edit I do next?

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>>16427768

Please don't molest the furniture.

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>>16428007
But they're practically begging for it.

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>>16427991
That Lambda pic on the second row reminds me of pic related

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>>16428024

Ok Shannon can be groped on a limited first come first grope basis.

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>>16428041
So it's a race to see who gets to fondle the busty maid. My bet's on Battler.

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>>16428028
You can almost hear her smug laughter.

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So if Featherine/Ikuko is supposed to symbolize Ryukishi, then does Tohya represent BT?

>>16428172
Yes, which is why ch8 was his farewell to his friend

>>16428197
God dammit. Sometimes I just want to give Ryukishi a hug or something.

>>16428060

Poor Shannon.

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Was it ever confirmed if Battler, Bern and Lambda having thetergoing funtimes in RGD was canon?
Or did they just look like them as a joke?

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>>16428266
Her whole reason for wanting large breasts in the first place was for the sake of appealing to Battler. If he were to win and come to her, then she'd probably be very happy that her efforts paid off.

>>16427849
What would Lambda's milk taste like?

>>16428401
Strawberry

>>16428413
Makes sense, and sounds delicious. Do you think she can use her magic to increase the size of her chest?

>>16428413
wtf I hate lambdadelta now.

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What do you think is the reason behind the nightly rapings of Krauss?
Is it a trait he inherited from his father? Can he simply not express love any other way? Or is there malice behind his rapings? A grin behind the facade of ecstasy?

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>>16428432
I'm pretty sure Bern and Lambda both have that ability

>>16428482
What would you prefer then?

>>16428491
MOMMY

>>16428491
I want to eat konpeito out of that Lambda's cleavage.

>>16428491
How about plum flavor? Then Bern would have some with her tea.

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>>16428494
"Yes?"

what if umineko had a gun

>>16427592
Why does she wear a bib?

>>16428028
Who's this semen demon?

>>16428172
>>16428197
>>16428229
Who is BT? What happened?

>>16429095
Seconded. Smug vampire loli's are definitely my thing.

>>16429101
Ryukishi's best friend who died in 2009

>>16429076
Because she's a messy eater.

>>16428285
I didn't like how he ditched the NVL system in RGD

Who would win in a fight between Gohda and Nanjo do you think?

>>16429439
Kinzo since nanjo and all the servants are a part of kinzos imagination

>>16429406
Iwaihime and Trianthology weren't NVL either. It's hopefully gone forever

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>>16429458
But what if the fight took place in the kitchen?

>>16429459
>not enjoying walls of text
>not enjoying fully fleshed out literature

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>>16429563
Pray tell whom are you quoting?

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Choose your Christmas cake.

>>16429834
Hmmm...
>immature witch
>woman in her prime who was scorned by her husband and is in definite need of cock and would be extremely grateful for it

Stupid question, Rosa is the only correct answer.

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>>16429874
Just how thirsty for dick was Rosa?

>>16429834
>>16429874
>Over 30
>In her prime
I'll take the kinky witch with the fun personality.

>>16429912
Parched like a desert. It's been years. She's been occupied with her annoying autistic daughter, having no time for herself. No sex toy at night compares to a passionate fucking while grabbing her fringe and pulling it backwards at the moment of climax.
There's no competition, Rosa is best Christmas Cake.

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>>16429221
Oh no

>>16429458
>all the servants are a part of Kinzo's imagination
Where are you getting this from?

>>16429977
Ryukishi's words on BT's death

>He was not only my very best friend, but also my very first reader.
>I wrote both Higurashi and Umineko because I wanted to surprise him.

>During the several months that passed since that day.
>I forgot the joy of writing.

>However, I know better than anyone else that if I stop writing because of him, he would be the most sad.
>So I must write.
>But he will no longer read it.

>I think I'll use today as a chance to set my heart back to square one.
>No, perhaps it's just the same as always.
>I think I'll start writing again for him to read.

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>>16429996
D-Don't anon...that's too sad...

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>>16429967
But would she be needy enough to even resort to incest?

>>16430002
>EP6 was the next Episode to come out after BT's death
>The Episode is full of Battler grieving over Beatrice's death and how she'll never be able to read the story he wrote for her.

>>16430015
I do like to self-insert as Battler, I must admit. So that's fine with me. Also, sex-deprived older women who lust after young cock is my fetish.

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>>16430015
>>16430108
It seems sisters really do think alike.

>>16429967
Which is Rosa best for?
Drunk comfort sex after a hard day at work
Secret vacations with just the two of you
Marrying

>>16430135
Fuck, that's a hard choice. Drunk comfort sex and secret vacations sound terribly good. I'd never marry though, I can't stand Maria.

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>>16430108
Just imagine them slowly getting together. Battler would come by with Ange for playdates with Maria and end up spending the day together with his aunt. The sexual tension between them grows with each visit as Rosa becomes more and more conscious of her attractive nephew.

>>16430135
>>16430160
>>16430162
Every fucking time. Guys, I JUST masturbated. Stop.

>>16430162
Battler and Rosa continue to get along, becoming more comfortable around each other. Without meaning to he accidentally let's one of his usual perverted jokes slip, making a lewd remark about his aunt before he can stop himself. But instead of getting offended upset, Rosa just smiles and laughs it off, shooting a playful remark of her own right back at him.

>>16430160
How about going at it while Maria's asleep in the next room over? The two of you would struggle to keep your voices down so as not to wake her. Beneath you, Rosa bites her lip to silence herself, her back arching upwards as she grips the bedsheets tightly.

Where can I get some voice acting sound files? I need more <Good.> in my daily life.

>>16430245
Episode 1-4's can all be obtained via the PS3 port

https://umineko-project.org/en/downloads/

>>16430203
>>16430213
Jesus Christ anons, I'm not a machine. There's a limit to my masturbation sessions. Especially you, "bedsheet-gripping" anon, that's like my weakness.
I was just about to sleep but now I have to bother my dick again.

>>16430245
>>16430260
Just download the sound_09.08.16.7z.001
and sound_09.08.16.7z.002 files The unzip password is 035646750436634546568555050

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>>16430260
>>16430280
Perfect, Cheers!

>>16430280
>>16430297
Is there a <good> in there? That might just be my new alarm clock.

>>16430305
I don't think so, but there is a DIE THE DEATH for some reason

>>16430305
>>16430311
I'll let you guys know when I finish downloading.

>>16430274
You continue to pound into Rosa as she lay there confused, torn between her caution at staying quite and her carnal desire for more physical intimacy. Her body shook with each thrust she received, her breasts bouncing up and down on her chest in a hypnotic rhythm. You feel her legs wrap around you, locking around your waist and pulling you deeper into her.

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>>16430319
Erection achieved.
Ah, might as well.

I like the added fact of Maria sleeping in the next room. Secret deprived aunt sex is best sex.

>>16430311
That'll work. Any sound bites would be welcome.

>>16430328
I don't know how to merge these into one file, but here you go
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0eSnz8VFzsQ
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0B9r9mx3N0r
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mVCVQzpV9E

Also, <It's perfect>
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Fs1AFL6QgU

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>>16429996
Christ. Poor guy.

>>16430065
YAMERO

>>16430327
Feeling yourself approaching an orgasm, you hastily try to pull out, only to be halted by Rosa's legs still gripping your waist. Unable to stop yourself, and with nowhere else to go, you blew your load deep inside her. Rosa's body gave a small spasm as each spurt filled her inside's with hot liquid. Once finished, you collapsed limply on top of her your energy totally spent. Exhausted from both the intense lovemaking coupled with the strain of staying silent the entire time, the two of you drifted off to sleep, still connected at the hips.

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>>16430160
A vacation at the hot springs opens up a lot of enticing opportunities.

>>16430390
little do you know, maria was standing outside the room, peeking in through the not quite closed door.

>>16430778
As she watched you and Rosa together Maria started to feel funny. Later, Sakutaro taught her some "magic" to make herself feel better.

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>>16430814
Wrong! Sakurato is just a ratty stuffed animal Maria humped to get off while crying in her bed at night.
Rosa's boyfriend taught Maria "magic" when he fondled her while Rosa was at work. He told her that the black witch would posses her mommy if she told anyone, so she kept quiet.

>>16430894
Reminds me of that "magic wand" scenario from a while back.

>>16430903
You mean the one where Maria is told that sucking her tutor off will give her magical power?
>>16430894
Then Maria ties to clean Sakutaro after he gets sticky from her humping.

Would you recommend reading Higurashi or Umineko first?
I believe Umineko has a better story, but Higurashi has a better cast and first introduces the kakera system.

>>16431336
Higurashi for sure.

>>16431336
If you read Umineko first you will figure out that it's a mystery and understand who Hanyuu is better
If you read Higurashi first you will get the references in Umineko and understand Bern and Lambda
I think people should just read whatever they are more interested in

>>16427973

Oh I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!

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>Japan finally put out that shit version of Umineko /a/ and /v/ have been shitposting about for years

>>16432536
>Dangan Ronpa
>Having anything to do with Umineko
fuck off back to v

I wish that one day Bern or Lambda would make a cameo appearance in a Touhou game. The only reason why I want this is just to see them drawn in ZUN's art style.

>>16432551
it sort of does, on one really simplistic level

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>>16432536
The only thing I know it copies from Umineko is the "wow the readers are assholes for enjoying murders mysteries"
Does it copy any more?
Apart from SHSL Witch, of course

>>16432551
DR has meta dimensions, colored statments with different levels of truth, maids, closed room murders and witches that claim that magic exist
I think it's fair to think that Kodaka has read Umineko

>>16432566
They ran with the "pink statements are lies" thing, and tried to show that they were aware of how most people would see the ending but did it about half as well as R07 did.

The main difference actually is that the EP8 conclusion isn't some outlandish thing that doesn't fall in line with anything else in the games, not when the Ushiromiya family is treated as a bunch of real people that you're getting secondhand info about throughout the entire story.

Also, Kodaka is legit angry at people for still hating his ending. He hasn't shut up about it on twitter.

>>16432556
I would legit pay a few grand to commission ZUN to draw this.
Does he do any commission work or is it all working on his own IP? Fellow must be busy making music/games and raising two kids.

>>16432566
>DR has meta dimensions
Since fucking when?
>maids, closed room murders and witches that claim that magic exist
WOW HOW GROUNDBREAKING SURELY UMINEKO NO NAKU KORO NI IS THE FIRST WORK EVER TO HAVE SUCH UNIQUE ELEMENTS

>>16432608
I was annoyed at first games ending.
>drug that erases specific memories
>post apocalyptic technology
Might as well claim magic exists

>>16433038
Since now
It's even the same idea where instances of the series are fiction within the universe and written by the dev's self inserts.

>>16433191
Can we not talk about V3? It's kinda off topic and I'm really trying to avoid spoilers.

I would drag my balls through twelve feet of broken glass just to hear Erika farting through a walkie talkie

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>>16433178
>drug that erases specific memories
>post apocalyptic technology
Knox's 4th
It is forbidden for unknown drugs or hard to understand scientific devices to be used!
DIE THE DEATH

To be honest, it'd hard not to rip off Umineko when you're a massive fan and want to write a mystery. I really want to write a mystery that uses certain rules and it's hard not to think of putting in a personification of the rules like Dlanor.

>>16433819
>tfw I want to write a mystery but have no imagination
It's like creating a new puzzle I guess.

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>>16433833
Just do what I do and write mysteries for these threads using the Umineko setting and characters. You guys think I'm doing you a favour or something by playing a nice parlour game but in reality I'm just testing out mysteries and gauging reactions and solutions anons come up with to see if they're good enough to be in my own novel.

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>>16433851
You've been stringing us along for your own personal gain! I can never forgive someone like that!!

>>16433851
I'm trying to say that's I'm too stupid to make puzzles and that I lack imagination. They're pretty hard to do.

>>16433952
It's definitely not easy.
What I do is start from the end and work yourself backwards. Create a locked room and now go through every possible plausible way it could have been done. Now get rid of the plausible ways and get a definitive solution, probably the fifth one you thought of because everyone will have thought of the first four, so to say. Then plant the hints and clues to suggest one of the first four explanations and watch people fall for red herrings. I'd love to see you try a mystery anon. It really isn't easy but you have to start with something.

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>>16434018
>What I do is start from the end and work yourself backwards.
>Then plant the hints (foreshadowing)
Hmmm, where have I heard this bit of knowledge?

>>16434034
It's 101 mystery writing, Featherine.

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If I wrote a mystery visual novel, would you read it, /jp/?

>>16434157
Hell no

>>16434157
Give me a taste first. I'm not putting countless hours into it unless I know your writing, storytelling and characters are good.

>>16433750
Send this to R07

>>16434200
Bastard never replies to my weird fan mail.

>>16434223
What's his email?

>>16434491
[email protected]

>>16434157
I'd give it a chance. If you're new to making a visual novel, start small and don't overwhelm yourself.
Will it just be a mystery? Do you intend to make the characters interesting or just pieces?

>>16427973
How did the Gaap edit and fight went on?

>>16428285
Anybody has access to all the versions of Axelle Ratio? If so, could you share them?

>>16432551
>Having anything to do with Umineko
Both have terrible anime adaptations and get worse the more they progress just to have disappointing endings and waste their characters' potential.

>>16435657
Umineko doesn't have an anime though.

>>16434157
If you somehow con a bunch of 10/10 composers into working for you then sure

Featherine is cute! I want to give her a nice hug.

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That 34's dress looks comfy

>>16436626
/cgl/ please go and stay go

This might be a really stupid question, but is there a way to use the PS3 voice/sprite patch without also installing the translation? I know Japanese and don't like reading translations, but I really want those voices and I'd rather not go through the trouble of tracking down and importing the PS3 games themselves if I can avoid it.

>>16436927
Does the steam version have the option to toggle between languages? If so, You could try using the voice patch for that.

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>>16436579
Would you hug a short haired Featherine?

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Does Genji masturbate?

>>16438404
In complete silence with the lights out and his eyes closed, without making a sound.

>>16438404
Didn't we have a mystery a while ago where Genji was found naked, hanging from a noose in the garden shed which was locked from the inside and the solution was that he was into autoerotic asphyxiation and was just fapping away until he accidentally kicked the chair away in ecstasy?

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>>16438107
HERESY
HERESY
HERESY

I don't care what people say about Krauss's bad business ideas or nightly rapings or whatever, I really like his character. Best uncle.
I thought Rudolf was best uncle but then he started killing everyone.

>>16438750
I liked his development. You start out thinking he's a pompous bastard who belittles his siblings. But then you find out he has an inferiority complex because of Kinzo's amazing business skills which he can't hope to compete with. He also really loves his wife. He's just a man formed by his upbringing that left him with many flaws, but he's not a bad person at all. Most fleshed out uncle in Umineko.

>>16435635
I wish I did, that song is amazing
The over two minutes of increasingly faster piano/harpsichord buildup fit his madness perfectly

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Vocaloid spin-off with Gohda when?

>>16435657
Are you that guy who thinks Legend was the best episode and hated the meta world, logic battles, etc?

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>>16438107
i wouldn't touch any featherine with a ten foot pole

>>16439920
desu Legend had excellent Higurashi type atmosphere that no other games in the series attempted to create again.

I can see why someone would have Legend as their favourite

>>16440162
Yeah, but it also had the least of what made Umineko Umineko. If you want Higurashi, just read Higurashi instead. Don't harp on Umineko for being a different story.

>>16440172
>If you want Higurashi, just read Higurashi instead. Don't harp on Umineko for being a different story

Who is doing this? I just said Legend has a unique atmosphere.

>>16440180
Well, I'll admit that much. But met at least one person in these threads who acts like the series went to shit after Legend, saying they never should have introduced the meta world aspects of the game.

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What do you guys think about this cute witch?

>>16442044
I want to rape her

I just wanna post about higurashi in these threads and piss everyone off

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>>16442044
She has a very punchable tummy

>>16442331
PUNCH THE SEACATS!

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>>16442323

Sometimes the threads are created as Higurashi/Umineko/anything 07th Expansion, I wouldn't mind discussing Higurashi but no one wants to most of the time I guess.

>>16442539
Well I'm on my maiden reading of it right now (spammed screens all the time in the last few threads) and all I can say is that Minagoroshi has some of the weakest writing of all the chapters. Actually everything about the consultation center and Teppei was pretty good, but this fight scene with the club members and the mountain hounds was too hokey. In my headcanon I think, "Rika has become the witch of miracles already, so Satoko manifesting a jumprope out of nowhere and choking an adult, or time stopping but everyone still talking to each other just happens via Bernkastel's magic but overall Minagoroshi was a let down compared to the last chapter which was actually really great. Ryukishi at some point had a bad deus ex machina habit though, even if it's not as prevalent in his later works.

Seeing Rika's character develop into who we know as Bernkastel in the next series though is pretty satisfying. Made sitting through all of the SoL scenes very rewarding.

>>16442323
>>16442539
We've discussed Higurashi loads of times, I don't think anyone's bothered about it. I'd assume all of us have read it.

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>>16442559
I kinda agree with you on Minagoroshi as Tsumihoroboshi was my favourite chapter since Rena is probably the character I love the most out of all the characters in the When They Cry series I might be a little biased on that.

>>16442699
Tsumihoroboshi was also one of Keiichi's best arcs as a character.

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>>16442699
Rena is great. I like how in the first chapter she's as mentally unstable and codependent, but in Tsumihoroboshi she betrays the typical stereotype and is actually really perceptive and cerebral. Tsumihoroboshi might have been one of my favorite chapters.

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While we're on the subject
Which Higurashi would you Naku Koro Ni?

Will WTC5 Ep 1 also end with
"By the time you have read this, I will probably be dead.
The only difference will be whether there is a body or not.
You who have read this.
Please find out the truth"
like Umineko and Higurashi?

>>16443411
I fucking hope so. I just want the story to be like Higurashi and Umineko, where people die in terrible and mysterious ways and we have to figure out what the hell is going on.

>>16443411
>>16443470
Ryukishi said in his tweet that it would be "completely different from Higurashi and Umineko"

>>16431336
Higurashi. Reading Umineko first spoils the whole time-looping system and makes it easy to figure out that Rika keeps her memories between the chapters when you remember how Bern's origins describe her as suffering a logic error for a very long time. If you read Higurashi first, then you have more interpretations to how the chapters are connected at the ending of Tatarigoroshi, such as there being multiple K1s inside of Hinamizawa, which adds a lot to the horror atmosphere.

>>16443520
Well fuck him then. That's not WTC.
If he brings out another RGD or whatever and sticks the WTC label on it I'll be furious. That's not what WTC is about and what fans of WTC want.

That said, he might just be saying that to get people interested. "Oh, something completely different? Cool!"
I hope he sticks to kakeras and mysteries though.

What's the name of that village Hinamizawa's based on again? I'm going to Japan next year and I want to visit it.
Wasn't there an anon here who went there as well? I'd like to ask him about how it was.

>>16443545
Shirakawa

>>16443520
It might just mean that it has no meta or no timeloops structure
I doubt he will drop the mystery genre

>>16443545
>>16443553
>population of 1800
That's amazing. I'd fucking love to go there.

>>16443216
Mion. You know, the one who isn't batshit. Never put your dick in Shion. Or Rena.
Satoko and Rika are underage so obviously I wouldn't fuck them :^)

>>16443520
I hope he just means the setting.

What would be your ideal setting for the next WTC? I know we've talked about a ski lodge or whatever, but what about a prison?
All kinds of interesting characters locked up in a small prison, all with various reasons as to why they were incarcerated. Locked-off prison sort of like Alcatraz. Murders start happening. Corruption is unearthed. Some inmates are actually innocent. Stuff like that.

>>16443820
When picking a setting you should think how the mystery could carry itself without being a simple murder mystery. I think there should be some supernatural being that can be blamed, like Oyashiro-sama's curse or the Golden Witch. Maybe this is what R07 wants to change, but I'm willing to thnk it isn't. Of course, it should also be as differnent as possible from Oyashiro and Beatrice to stand as its own story.

Thinking like this, I found that a pretty interesting setting would be a big city (Tokyo or something) in the urban parts, where a serial killer is loose with urban legends spawning about what or who it is.

>>16443556
I wouldn't mind this. Timeloops/meta are really interesting concepts, but they make it so most of the characters lose all development between the episodes. Though, it he did go with that, there'd likely be a lot less death compared to the other two WTC since he'd piss a lot of people off if their favorite character got killed halfway through the story.

>>16443820
>ski lodge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtyKQC4sZ54
This exists now, so ski lodge is very unlikely. It would be pointless to use the same setting twice

>>16444082
Was that Ryu-chan's added story to that one ski lodge murder mystery VN? How was it received? Translation any time soon?

Also, ski lodge is a very common location for mystery novels. But yeah, I bet Ryu-chan's gonna do something different this time.

>>16444121
It isn't out yet. Release date is February 16th

>Translation
It's Vita exclusive, so probably never

>>16442539
fucked up your transparency there

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>>16443216
Sextoko

>>16443820
I think it's fairly likely that the setting will be based on a mystery novel again, like Higurashi and Umineko. It's impossible to guess which one though, without more info

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>>16448440
I wouldn't mind if he took inspiration from Agatha Christie again.

>>16443411
I really hope so. It's tradition.

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>>16448562
How about a Galaxy Express 999 in SPAAAAAACE murder mystery with space detectives?

>>16448562
It'd end up being too similar to Umineko I feel. I want it to stay as far as possible from past entries while still retaining the core themes.

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>>16443802
>Rena
>Batshit

She didn't do anything bad except in tsumihoroboshi.

Even in tsumihoroboshi-hen her objectives weren't malicious.

Plus she was the only character to repress her Hinamizawa Syndrome Symptoms out of sheer will power, unlike K1, Shion or Satoko.

>>16450362
More like things happened and if nothing happens, she goes insane.

>>16449745
>I want it to be just like it
>but also nothing like it

>>16450411
Your reading comprehension is pretty bad.

The core themes that are shared between Higurashi and Umineko are very specific:
>mystery
>murders
>fantastical beings
>time looping
>kakera
>etc

Apart from these, everything is very different between them (setting, story, characters). Likewise, a third entry should try to keep these themes and go nuts with the rest.

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>>16450441
I was just poking fun, nothing serious.

>>16450395
>More like things happened and if nothing happens, she goes insane.

What things? Her trigger was being nearly killed by Rina and that is never implied to happen in any of the other mian arcs.

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>>16450466
Because, as I said, something more important was happening so she never let her mind wanderr and focus on Rina.
If K1 starts going insane, she pays more attention to him.
If Sion goes insane, she wants to find out what happened and doesn't mind Rina.
If Satoko goes insane, then it's because Rena talked to Mion about it and disposed of Rina with her Yakuza contacts.

Her trigger is literally nothing happening with her friends.

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>>16450474
>Her trigger is literally nothing happening with her friends.

With the exception of the Satoko events everything else happens after watanagishi but Rena's confrontation with Rina takes place before Watanagashi. If it was the default set of events Rena would have Killed Rina and been mainpulated by Miyo in most arcs.

>If Satoko goes insane, then it's because Rena talked to Mion about it and disposed of Rina with her Yakuza contacts.

Rena has nothing to do with those Rina deaths, they happened because she crossed the sonozaki family.

>>16450536
>they happened because she crossed the sonozaki family.
You misunderstand, but you're not the first.
Rina ALWAYS had troubles with the Sonozaki because of debts, but she never ends up dead in nearly all kakera. Do you never wonder why? Something interesting is that Rika mentions that the Satoko event is something that is very rare and in ep 7, we find out why. Mion says that Rena came to see her and talked to her about her troubles at home. And this caused the Yakuza to 'take care of Rina' which makes Tenpei come back to Hinamizawa. This applies to the same events as ep 3, as they are the same scenarioes, except with K1 finding out a way to save Satoko rather than kill.

They key point is that if Rena talks to Mion about her troubles at home, it triggers the Satoko event. Meaning that ep 6 only happens if K1 doesn't go insane, if Shion doesn't go insane and if Rena doesn't talk to Mion. These are the conditions that determine which kakera take place.

>>16450576
>Meaning that ep 6 only happens if K1 doesn't go insane, if Shion doesn't go insane and if Rena doesn't talk to Mion. These are the conditions that determine which kakera take place.

Keiichi and Shion going insane both happen after Watanagashi how does this have any effect on Rena killing Rina which happens before Watanagashi.

>>16450602
But Keiichi goes insane if he goes to the funeral at the very start, and shion goes crazy if Keiichi doesn't give Mion the doll

http://poal.me/c0yvil
Vote for best Seacat here.

Just finished reading Tatarigoroshi, already know mild spoilers, excellent chapter though.

Was there really a syringe at the end of Onikakushi? Or were they trying to draw on his face because of the "you'll meet the same fate as Tomitake" thing?

>>16451800
Do you really want confirmation?

>>16451819
Seems weird for there not to be one since it wasn't behind the clock, why would someone take a marker?

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>>16451800
Good catch.

Ok so in Watanagashi there was definitely a switcheroo at some point since Mion was dead in the well when Keiichi got stabbed. So Shion was the crazy one but Mion was also a killer? Or maybe she was roleplaying like the afterparty said.

Surprised they didnt mention anything about Takano's corpse being fake. Unless there's some "lol you only assumed the takano at the storehouse was her, you've never met her before" thing.

>>16451878
Knox's 10th: It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues.

There would definitely be some sort of clue to indicate if such a switch takes place.

>>16451891
Surely twins are an exception.

>>16451895
I can personally guarantee that some hint is given whenever Mion and Shion switch places.

>>16451909
Well the dialogue makes me think that Shion is doing all the killing since she says "I killed everyone I wanted to kill" after she stabs Keiichi. Kind of implies multiple murders.

Does this put Mion in the cage and Shion doing the kinky torture? Seems unlikely that Rena wouldn't be able to tell them apart though. Plus whoever was talking with them was way too lucid to be a throat scratcher.

Sorry for the non seacats posts, thread seemed slow.

>>16451933
Seacat threads generally double as Higurashi threads, so no worries.

Rena isn't that familiar with Shion. She probably wouldn't be able to recognize her behavior as anything more than Mion acting a bit strange.

And Keiichi was with whoever was talking with him and Rena the entire time up until meeting whoever was in the cage. No opportunities for them to switch then.

>>16451968
I suppose the only time to switch was when Keiichi got tazed. Which is both stupid and totally meaningless. So Shion was the crazy one and had Mion in the cage, she tazed K, dumped Mion in the well and posed as herself? Shion disappeared because she was being Mion?

Not as convoluted as Tatarigoroshi I guess.

>>16451989
Then that just leaves the question of when did Mion get put in the cage?

>>16451994
After Watanagashi I suppose, when Shion went "missing". She put Mion in the cage and acted as her for the rest of the chapter. Seems pretty complicated for someone going insane. K couldn't do much more than grab a bat and tell his friends to fuck off.

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>>16452005
Different people manage to retain different levels of control. Keiichi also only acted in self defense, whereas Shion/Mion? went on the offensive.

Also, upon meeting Mion on the day after Watanagashi, remember Keiichi remarks that something seems off about her. Mion then claims to be hungover, and asks Keiichi the same questions she already asked him the previous night.

>>16451909
I can also guarantee that every time Shion is Mion, K1 mentions that she is acting weird.

>>16452064
Oh that whole "I thought I'd get a different answer if I asked again" thing. Rena and Oishii did that too so it seemed like an excuse to do that music change whenever K got asked about what he did last Summer.

Well the Shion stuff seems to fit pretty well, sides the fact I've got no motive other than she goes insane.

So the last questions from Watanagashi is why did Takano fake her death and who beat up Rika

>>16452099
Keep reading then
You have exhausted all the possible theories you can make
You could figure out everything but the Takano stuff but it requires some leaps of logic and you don't have many things to base them on

>>16452099
>Well the Shion stuff seems to fit pretty well, sides the fact I've got no motive other than she goes insane.
Finding out who killed everyone is a pretty good motive. In a meta sense, Shion becomes the character in the sense that she goes directly for all the people who were in charge of the conspiracy. You learn for three chapters that the Sonozaki family, Rika and the leader of the village are all behind a huge conspiracy that ends with the village getting destroyed. And Shion, upon understanding that, goes ''well time to just fucking kill them all and find Satoshi. It's genius and direct.

>So the last questions from Watanagashi is why did Takano fake her death and who beat up Rika
Continue reading.

>>16452110
>>16452120
Well after Tatarigoroshi it said I've been given all the mysteries so it should be solvable. Then again I was never going to solve Umineko after 4.

Tatarigoroshi itself was a complete fuck fest, unreliable narrator and all. I assume K and probably Satoko both go insane, Satoko only because she saw her uncle after he got his head cracked open.

I would say K was digging at the wrong spot for the corpse too if he didn't have the lantern marking the place for him.

Also Kinzo placed explosives under Hinamizawa and everyone dies in the end kek. No idea how K survived that without "he did different stuff unreliable narrator wooo".

>>16452148
Only one insane person per arc.

>>16452148
Don't fall for r07's lies, there is no way you can figure out the Hinamizawa disaster on your own
But here is a tip
It happens in ep 1 too, but it doesn't on Ep 2

>>16452148
>Well after Tatarigoroshi it said I've been given all the mysteries so it should be solvable.
No. Only after a certain part in ep 7 that the mystery becomes somewhat solvable. It gets to a point where you think 'okay, there's no one who can be the killer' and then reveals the truth. It's very much impossible to figure out the motive of who is behind everything.

Umineko, in contrast, is solvable by ep 4.

>>16452148
You really shouldn't be in this thread if you don't want to be completely spoiled.

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>>16452166
>>16452165
REEEEEE FUCK YOU R07

When I mentioned mild spoilers in my first post I meant I watched half the anime years ago and I know Rika is a magical girl. Dont know the answer or anything like that

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>>16452182
>I know Rika is a magical girl.
Correct!

>>16452182
But Rika is a piece from amnesiac Featherine anon

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>>16452188
Rika is the culprit! She killed everyone with magic!

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>>16452196

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>>16452197
Knox 7th
It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit.

>>16452211
Knox 5th: Fuck you

Well anyway I'm going to read on later. Tatarigoroshi was no help at all so I'm listing suspicious people in no particular order.

Sonozaki + other village big shots: Why they would want to fuck their own village I dont know but I remember Mion's grandma is listed as dead in Watanagashi for some reason as part of Shions spree even though it was never mentioned during the chapters events. They definitely killed people previous years.

Takano "Fake corpse" Miyo and Tomitake: Takano had a fake corpse in a drum while she was perusing torture impliments with K and Shion. Tomitake also has his part of K's note (Tomitake was killed by an unknown drug) in Onikakushi ripped out along with the syringe/marker? He rips his throat every chapter I believe but K never gets drugged so it can't be that

Irie "the manager" Kyosuke: Gets called by Rena and Mion to K's house in Onikakushi to probably tend to a sick K. Brings his whole fucking entourage and chases him through the town. Seems normal for a doctor. Also dies in Tatarigoroshi, though hard to trust hearsay from an insane K. Must've been a witch kek

Oishii: Goes from ally to butthole across the chapters. Can't see him murdering people but is a bit sus.

Thanks all who replied.

>>16452245
You're close but you're forgetting one key piece of evidence that happened in a very specific scene that doesn't happen anywhere else in the story.

>>16451552
The battle is intense

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>>16452436
Best witch has a consistent lead

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>>16452517
That's only because the best witch isn't there.

>>16452781
You can add characters, dumb mariaposter.

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>>16452787
NO BULLYING!

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>>16452791
I am bullying incarnate. Now cry for me.

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>>16452797
>I am bullying incarnate.
Know your place. You merely adopted bullying from your 100 year suffering. I was born in it, molded by it.

I don't understand "Krauss is a rapist" meme

>>16453140
Only rape can stop the Lunabitches and Krauss seeks the moon for himself.

>>16453140
That's because it's forced and just came out of one random comment months ago.

>>16453170
Oh I see. I saw both it and and Yasu explanation before reading Umineko and after Kumasawa commented on Natsuhi sperging out at Shannon in the first chapter I kept assuming that Krauss was fucking Shannon until the end but it was never mentioned

>>16453140
Why else would Eva hate Krauss so much?

>>16453140
Its just the natural devolution into forced memes and lewd posting that has happend over the years.

>>16450362
She goes to the local dump for fun and takes shit home with her. She ain't normal.

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Stop masturbating to witches

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>>16453346
Never! You first!

>>16453184
I love that a silly meme got taken seriously by someone who didn't know better. Imagine going into Umineko thinking you got spoiled that Krauss is a rapist. You'll be looking for clues everywhere.

All this talk of Higurashi really makes me want to read the VN. I only watched the anime as it aired.
All the stuff I must've missed, like
>>16451841
This really blows my mind. Of course it was a fucking marker. That's amazing.

>>16453404
Here's another one from Onikakushi.
The needle was just Tabasco sauce in the ohagi. Keiichi mistook the spicy sting for the prick of a needle and the red sauce for blood.

>>16453429
Fucking hell.
They were just being nice friends to him and he was just seeing shit that really wasn't there. I love it.

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>>16453429
The best part is that Keiichi even mentions the solution later

>>16453429
>>16453542
That's it. I'm gonna have to read Higurashi.
Manga or VN? Which version of the VN has the best translation, and which sprites do you recommend?

>>16453589
Play the newer Mangagamer VN version.
You get used to the original sprites and they got the best facial expression so I recommend them. There's also a voice patch available.

>>16453589
The PS2 sprites are the best ones, don't get tricked. You should also patch the backgrounds. I wouldn't really recommend the voices, I felt that it worked better with just the music, which you should patch so you get the original tracks instead of the MangaGamer ones.

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>>16453589
It really depends on your own preference. Personally I prefer the steam sprites, but the PS2 version has some really nice cgs. Not sure about any translation differences though.

The manga's also pretty good if you don't want to read through certain parts.

>>16453744
I'm guessing PS2 is the middle one? That looks the best to me personally.

>>16453663
Any simple guides to patching? I'm a complete idiot with these things.

At the moment it sounds like I want PS2 sprites, with MangaGamer translation, original tracks and new backgrounds. That sounds like I've got my work cut out for me.
I agree on the voices. I loved hearing them in Umineko at first but they really get in the way of the music.
How is the music in Higurashi anyway? Same guys who did Umineko?

>>16453759
The first half of Higurashi has free use tracks, so it's not that memorable for the most part, although it's still better than MangaGamer and more varied.

Kai shares composers with Umineko, but the similarities are mostly in dai tracks, the happy or sad songs. The zts tracks there are very different from his tracks on Umineko (worldenddominator, lastendconductor, dreamenddischarger, etc).

I'm not sure how to patch the newer versions, but when I read it I used the erogedownload versions, and patched following instructions in this page

http://higurashifix.wikia.com/wiki/Tweaking_Higurashi_Wiki

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>>16453481
Rereading that scene in Onikakushi always hurts when you already know what really happens

Also probably why episode 6 is one of my favorites, since he was actually able to apologize for that.

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>>16453817
I like how the manga actually managed to pull off a good jumpscare.

>>16453663
>The PS2 sprites are the best ones, don't get tricked.
They're not. Don't be fooled. Stick with the original sprites as they were meant to be read and pull through until you're done.
Don't judge a book by its cover.

>>16453542
Ryukishi loves showing the truth in plain sight as everyone glosses over it.

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>>16453429
Yep.

>>16454161
This looks shopped. I can tell by the pixels and from having seen quite a few shops in my time.

>>16454198
You're beyond stupid. It's the same moment as >>16453542

>>16453772
Do you think it'd be fine to read the current versions of Kai that are out, or would it be better to wait for the updated Steam versions?

>>16454222
I'm joking, silly.
Look at that pic though, closely, there's little gaps in the text that make it look like the line was taken from several newspaper articles to form that sentence. Is that some kind of bug? Never looked like that in the original.

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>>16454307
I know you're joking and what you're referencing. I just wanted to call you stupid. Stupid.
I didn't take the screenshot, someone else posted it years ago.

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>>16454322
If you say so, anon.

Out of all the slightly neglected Umineko characters, who do you think most deserved a cool fight scene?

>>16454334
Hideyoshi. Krauss had Goat-kun and Rudolf had Belphegor, but Hideyoshi is the only uncle who didn't get to see any action. The closest he got was slapping Evatrice

>>16454334
Godha, obviously.

>>16454307
It happens if you run Higurashi via WINE. There is a patch to fix it though

>>16454280
I read the original versions and they were good enough.