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Crying over 2016 stats edition
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>>16339202
accurate depiction of a yakuman tsumo
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>3:0
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Well done, toimen. I thought I had you,
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>>16339202
>Crying over 2016 stats edition
Post your stats

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/ranking.pl?name=KyuuAA&r=8&d1=20160101&d2=20161231

This includes everything in Tenhou. 7447, L0, etc.

My highlights:
>5dan and tokujou for the first time
>7 yakuman on the year, including chuuren poutou
>7th +100 game
>7447 games with Tenhoui
>the PML tournament

All in all, it's been good year.
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3:0
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>>16339691

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/ranking.pl?name=TheWild7&r=8&d1=20160101&d2=20161231

Highlights? Getting into Mahjong seriously after years of tossing tiles around like a chump would be the biggest.

Hitting 3Dan
discovering the joy of playing on auto tables
meeting some pretty awesome PML folks that have made the game even better

(btw, norcal or socal? have we met?)
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>>16339771
I was worried he'd look like 15 year old throughout the entire manga.
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>>16339780
He still does
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>>16339763
Actually, the real highlight for me was making an entire parlor erupt in cheer as I pulled off an ippatsu open riichi on a chitoitsu hand.

I might beat myself up for shit play, but on that day I was king of the world
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>>16340040
Sounds like an awesome time. Honestly wish I could actually get some use out of my tiles, autotable or not, but unfortunately I don't know anyone who plays on my side of the country, and I haven't really been able to get any of my friends into Mahjong

Life sure is suffering
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>>16340775
Which country?
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anyone here in louisiana? i'm just starting and looking for a group to play with since there don't seem to be any parlors or anything.
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>>16340946
Unfortunately, the closest known group to you is over at Crestville, FL
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>accidently discard the wrong tile, putting myself into furiten
>well this is embarassing, hopefully I don't draw my winning tile before I can change my wait
>tsumo next turn, almost consider not winning out of vanity
>have to wait the full 10 seconds on the win screen and I can tell everyone is wondering what the fuck is wrong with me
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>>16340788
US, south florida
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>>16340975
>>16340956
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>>16340977
Unfortunately, it'd be like 16 hours round trip to go to Crestview and back. Maybe as one off thing it'd be fun

Are those guys even active? There's no contact information for them
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>>16340998
I dunno, I live in Beijing.
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>>16341001
enjoying the new years airpocalypse?
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>>16342138
>going outside on new years
See I'm smart, because I had buddies come over yesterday so we can play 'jong and ttrpg and vidya all day without bothering with the smog
>Christmas last week and New Year's this week
>200+ AQI
Xi you fucked up, again.
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>>16342421
>200
uhh
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>>16340966
>Accidentally call furiten riichi
>Pray someone else wins so I don't have to show everyone how retarded I am
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>>16340975
I live in Central FL. For me it would be 13 hour drive to Panhandle or Crestview.
Maybe if we find 2 other people we can work something out.
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3:0 friends, who will join us?

will it be (you)?
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>>16344346
If there are other Florida anons we could enlist, that'd be great
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>mfw hitting fourth dan yesterday

Is this the black hole for suffering?
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>>16345855
There are a couple stages of hell, but you just hit the worst one unless your R is high. Getting up to 1800 is miserable if you were sitting at 1700 and is just about impossible if you were around 1600.
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>>16345893
I'm R1895, and I think I'll be okay. I was at 1900+ a few days ago, but the punishment for getting 3 straight 4th place pissed me off.
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>>16345996
Then you will be fine. There will be an adjustment period to playing tokujou level players but it's not hell the way the R climb is.
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>>16345996
Be careful and don't fuck up like I did. I was at R1960 and I managed to get kicked out of tokujou in two months. Still can't get back in.
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>>16346063
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>>16346075
It's okay, I'm still having fun.
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What kind of resources or help would you guys want in order to improve at the game? Strategy articles, coaching, replay reviews, streams with commentary?
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>>16346374
Commentary would be good, also reviewing replays. It helps to see how good players think through games
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>>16346374
Play defensively, all the time. When someone calls riichi, and you're 2-3 tiles away from tenpai, betaoiri immediately. Don't trust wind/dragon tiles and suji to discard. Also watch your replays.
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>>16346443
This is a great way to reduce your deal in rate, but virtually never win anything. I tried this style and my deal in rate went down .030 (.21 to .18), the problem was my win went down .045 (.260 to .215). I'm still trying to find a balance.
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>>16346443
I wasn't asking for advice for myself, I was just wondering if there was demand for help that I could provide to others in a way that's more specialized than just general advice like that.
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>>>/a/151684917
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Oh great NOW I hit my tsumos, against unranked players.
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3:12
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3:12

/a/ is sure showing up
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Don't forget to say "rabbit rabbit" when you wake up for the new year for extra good luck.
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>>16346756
Too late, maybe next year.
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>>16342803
It was 200 in the morning, in my defense.
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>>16346756
I'll remember. I told my friend to remember too.
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Fうck、I'm so fucking drunk, ha-fve mercy on me corak
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>>16346828
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I can't>>16346846
I waas peeing in abottle while youj won there
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>>16346858
Well I thought I was going to win the first South 4, but then we hit a draw and it turns out all 3 of us were waiting on 3 sou.
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>>16346865
I only called extend my renchan by drawing, and ultimately win.
I should have called earlier that round and might have won but instead I went full retard.
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Oh hod im's so stupid
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>nobody wants to enter the game for a while.
>suddenly want to shit really hard.
>the game fills up in no time.
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>accidentally throw away sanshoku
>hope no one was watching
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dat ippatu ctiitoitsu tho
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Welp guess thats what happens when you try to go for memes like nagashi mangan.
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UNIVERSE get back in here, I'm not done with you yet.
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>Connection dies.
>Get literal perfect draws.

JUST
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Despite the dropbot, this was nice
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>>16347027
So much for the flow
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>>16347154
Shouln't have called that and gone for suuakankou, the flow only rewards those that risk it all.
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I've never thought of fighting zhein again, and he's always got the most bullshit hands as if he calls the RNG gods like his bitch.
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>7447 is busy

Well, Happy New Year, you mahjong people you.
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明けましておめでとう
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>>16347508
Considering how the last week has fucked a full month's progress, 2017 can't come soon enough
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>>16347508
>Day 1
>Already 46 different people played games (plus nonames) in 7447
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Happy new year !

>3:4
Get in here.
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1:0 :(
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3.0
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3:0
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Oh, I'm loving 2017 already. Couldn't ask for a better first match of the year.
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I think i'm too stupid to learn this game.
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>>16349912
What kind of idiot deals into such an obvious wait? It's not like he was in 4th either.
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>>16350229
Maybe he wanted to give him a yakuman as a new year gift ?
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>>16350247
Sure was nice of him to do that.
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>>16350247
The kindest person in Tenhou.
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>Osamuko is back
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>>16350229
>5-dan
>dropping into that

He should've known better
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>>16350781
Oh shit, it is. Did osamu un-ragequit from the internet or did someone just take the server from him?
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If only I had a better uradora. Happy New Years.
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>>16351012
shouldn't it be sanankou?
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>>16351037
On a ron? No. If he had drawn it himself then yes that's a san an kou.
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>>16351037
The 3rd triplet isn't self drawn. It would only work with tsumo here.
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>>16351042
you are right, I'm retared
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>>16351050
>retared
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>>16351012
with a tsumo this was a sanbaiman
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How do I git gud?
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>>16352324
Learn tile efficiency and defense, then just keep playing.
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>>16351050

It's OK. Just don't ever be retarded enough to fall like the victim shown in this yakuman.
>>16350229
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as a beginner, should i play east only games, or stick to longer ones?
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>>16353204
The longer one. Tonpuusen is harder.
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>>16353204
It depends on your style really. Tonpusen is good if you can get a few cheap and fast hands, but hanchan is more forgiving of mistakes giving you time to recover.

I recommend playing nashi nashi (no red fives and no OEM tanyao) at first. It'll make you more conscious of tile efficientcy and less susceptible to bullshit 8 Dora open tanyao hands (the top two buttons)
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>>16353706
>OEM tanyao
I guess we're corporate now?
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>>16353706
Kuitan nashi is a great place for people to figure out how to play (due to the lack of easy hands, meaning you actually have to learn and use your yaku), but it ends in having to readjust to normal games (kuitan/aka dora) once you get out of ippan.
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>>16353706
Seconding nashi nashi, that's where I learned to play. The other rooms had big numbers and I didn't know what they meant so I pick the one with the least numbers and started learning.
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Barely escaped 4th place with a last turn chin itsu
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Holy shit that was a stealthy kokushi.
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>>16355642
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017010309gm-0009-7447-e9340184&tw=3

Well that was neat, I was worried when there was such an early riichi.
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>>16355655
Dude you had Daichisei tempai in your discards, what the shit.
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>>16355760
After the riichi I had to choose what hand to go for. Should I chase the Shousuushii and possible Tsuuiisou (and it turns out back into a daichisei tenpai), or should I keep chasing the kokushi? I figured someone had the other 2 haku in their hand (because it's the dora), so that made the choice easy.

I don't think I've ever seen that many terminals and honors in one hand before though.
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Where can I find a parlor in tokyo?
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Justice exists.
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>>16356072
I don't want any part of your justice.
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>>16355822
I couldnt give you specifics, but a lot of the osamuko clique have been to and played in Japanese parlors. As with everything Japan related, gaijin can expect greater scrutiny than your average Japanese person walking into a parlor, but there are plenty of parlors that will welcome you.
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>>16355822
There will be a real life event in Tokyo organised by Tenhou which will be advertised in English soon.
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i dont get it, how do i know my id on tenhou?
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>>16357390
What?
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>>16357422
i want to buy premium, and it keeps asking for my id?
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>>16356072
Now, that is some sweet justice.
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Defend yourself
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>>16358203
6m? It's obviously not safe at all but I can't think of anything better.
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>>16358203
8m passed a few turns ago so maybe it'll be safe, then 9m. Then 7m and end it with 6m. Hopefully.
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>>16358203
Oh shit he's last dealer and only 8000 points behind. Moreover, we can't see ANY dora.
It would be nice if we could win a pinfu hand without riichi but we're still in iishanten and 556p can only produce a shuntsu with the last 7p.
I guess we should defend and the only safe tile against dealer is 6s but if kamicha has toitoi 3dora or toitoi honitsu (we can't see any ton.. wait there are still 2 unseen nan mmh) it's mangan at least.
Dealer doesn't look like he needs characters or bamboo since he threw that penchan 12m so early and tsumogiri'd the remaining.
I would discard 6m.
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>>16358203
6s, it's safe against the dealer riichi, and it's suji against the kamicha. Although the general lack of central souzu tiles in his discard pond is suspicious,at most he could have a honitsu toitoi with 1 red dora, or a toitoi dora 3 or 4 if he's also using the red 5p.

It's not safe againt the shimocha at all, though.

You can also see 3 of the 6m on the table, so there's relatively few chances of the toimen waiting on 7 or 8m, but it's not safe.
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>>16358203
So what was the answer ?
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>>16358203
6m looks like the obvious answer. It's suji trapped on one and completely safe from the dealer.
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>>16360318
>6m
I meant 6s
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>>16360318
And it's precisely because it's obvious that it's the wrong answer here.
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>>16360776
Oh I agree, I'm expecting the thing to be a Shousuushii, but it's still the right play.
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>>16360807
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017010323gm-0029-0000-2ce4cac4&tw=1&ts=8

>two wind calls

So good eye on that.

And thus the answer:
>>16358243
>>16358257
>>16358300
>>16358340
>>16360044
>>16360318
>>16360326
>>16360776
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>>16360776
Such line of thinking is faulty
>>16361117
Why didn't you discard 6s you fuck
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>>16362816
To be honest you should expect a big comeback hand from the last player.
He needs a haneman tsumo to barely get 3rd or a baiman ron on the dealer in riichi. That's what he should be aiming for anyway so you must also defend against him imo.
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>>16363008
Well if he were going for toitoi he wouldn't discard three 1s out of his hand, would he? Yeah I know I only see it easily because it's a replay, but still
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>>16363015
I'm trying to think about a hand that can make a baiman with these 2 calls but yeah discarding these 1s means he threw his possible toitoi honitsu honroutou haneman for an even bigger hand.
And only shousuushii comes to mind when you see the missing east winds. Or a toitoi pinzu honitsu 3dora akadora tanki when you see the missing 3p dora, at this point it's less likely than the yakuman.
Well, it's easier to see on a picture. I wouldn't think about it in a match maybe.
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>>16363051
>I wouldn't think about it in a match maybe.
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>be a newfag who learned what suji is two weeks ago
>sudden winning streak
>hit R1700
>then finish last or 3rd in every subsequent game and fall down to 1520
>lose 4 times to oikake riichi in the last game
and I had better waits every single time. Is this what mahjong feels like?
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>>16365201
I had a streak at one point where I didn't win on 37 consecutive riichi, and all of them were good waits (6 of which were 3 way waits).
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>>16365201
R doesn't mean much in your first four hundred games, don't worry about it.
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2:0
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>>16365879
3:0
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Sequel to the dynaman book when?
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rip UNIVERSE. Anybody want to still play?
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>MUST PRESS FREE SEX BUTTON
Glad I held off, at least I kept second.
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>>16366149
with an 1-shanten like that, probably better to sakigiri the dora since your goal should be to defend your second place imo
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>>16366160
Well the thing here is unless I ippatsumo, the riichi doesn't do me any good. As you can see I was going for a chin itsu, but at some point you have to know dealing the dora into a riichi can't end well.
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>>16366164
I meant that dropping the dora earlier into the hand would probably have been the stronger play. sakigiri is earlier discard than normal of dangerous tiles before they become another player's winning tiles. your hand is a hand that you would be happy to fold to defend, but it also has high potential so keeping an explicitly dangerous tile around for longer has much higher risk than reward and would've led to the chance of maintaining tenpai, grabbing iipeikou, or transitioning to a chitoi while discarding safer tiles.
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>>16366176
I went back and looked at it, and I basically got surprised by the 3rd turn riichi. Since I already had 2 dora in my hand, if I could get a tsumo tanyao I take first. Then those 9 sou kept coming and I ended up where I was.

If I were to dump the 6 pin that early I'm completely abandoning any chance at 1st, and barring a complete collapse I'm not falling to 4th.

Mostly though I just ran out of safe discards. Until I got to that point the only dangerous tile I had dealt was the 3 man, and even that was half-suji.
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>>16366135
Well, I've been thoroughly bullied. Guess it's time to stop playing and instead time to regret ever queuing up.
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>e1: kamicha gets a dealer haneman tsumo
Fucking typical, here comes the retarded "fight for first loser" dance
>E1-2: the retard is clearly me, discard the wrong pair, get into furiten and still hit the free sex button, deal into mangan
Fuck, why do I even bother with this shit? I'm clearly too much of an idiot to get good
>E3: become a mahjong virtuoso, put together a ryanpeikoi honitsu tsumo with enough Dora to create a fucking dealer kazoe yakuman
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>5 days into the New Year
>already 80 unique names in 7447

Damn, you people fuck like rabbits.
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>>16366545
see

>>16346508
>>16347636
We played with /a/ as the clock hit midnight most of the Americas. It was 50 players by the time the 1st day ended.
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>>16366558
>midnight
midnight in
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>2017
>yfw /jp/ doesnt 3P anymore
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>>16366532
>free sex button
I assume this is riichi?

Is it based on some weird moonrune reading or something?
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>>16366629
It's based on the allure of declaring riichi even when you know you should stay dama or betaori

Someone post that comic
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This hand was so good it crashed my computer.
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>>16366564
>3P

That is for inferior players. So git gud.
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>What is defense
Feels good.
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>>16366564
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>>16366629
>>16366704
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Awful beginner question, but is there any reason why I couldn't riichi with this in nashi?
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>>16370395
You need to deposit 1000 points to call riichi, you only have 700. It'd put you in the negatives, so it doesn't allow it.
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>>16370399
Ah whoops, forgot about that.
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>>16370402
Not as bad a question as you might think, it's an obvious oversight that players forget simply because you don't run into it all that often.
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>>16370422
I know I was looking at that image trying to find out what's wrong!
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Someone teach this person. He needs some education.
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Happy New Year.

My first game in Tenhou for the year.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017010621gm-0029-0000-a561e9a1&tw=0

Short story. I was indeed feeling a bit of rust, dropping into 7700 and 12000 hands.

Dat S4. Tense as fuck.
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>>16367579

>I played 3P once and got wrecked
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>playing a game with my family
>Get a tsumo dealer baiman
>Next round
>Get a ron dealer sanbaiman one han away from kazoe yakuman
The flow is real guys
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>>16372796
Is there a god of Mahjong I can make an offering to?
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>>16372946
Yes.
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I just passed up a ron that would have ended the game with me in a comfortable second place so that I could have a go at somehow getting the 30,000 points I needed to get into first. It was such a fun game that I didn't want it to end. Is this what playing true mahjong feels like?

I ended up getting booted down to third by the end of the game.
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>>16373732
>Is this what playing true mahjong feels like?
I've heard some theories that tanoshii is indeed the essence of mahjong, but from my experience it's rather an endless cycle of masochism and power trips
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anybody at MAGFest?
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>>16373848
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>>16374915
You pretty much know you're fucked when your hand is that open, but jesus.

High pucker factor.
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Tenhou says I won the game but inside my heart I'm the one who lost.
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>>16375024
>Ovest 2 with a yakuman tenpai
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>>16375024
if you were a real man you'd have passed on the win and kept going
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>>16375024
Meh, take your shousangen and like it.
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>>16375760
>8700 in East 2

Well, the mahjong gods must've felt pity and granted you this miracle.
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>>16375760
Man why isn't Daisharin a thing?
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>>16372197
>kamicha's last eleven discards
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Describe what happened here.

This guy is an asshole.
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>>16376206
Do you reckon he was going absolute betaori or something
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>>16376327
He might have been but why not deal the two ton that he had? Wouldn't they have been safer than almost all of those 11 tiles?
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Mahjong players are ugly.
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>>16376366
Guy on the left a cute.
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>>16376341
>>16376206

He was maybe disconnected.
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>>16376366
Is he giving advices to the guys ? That's nice.
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>>16376480
Most of those pinzu were in his start hand. So, he was going betaori.

Given the scores, why not? Not even mangan tsumo passes him up.
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>>16376569
Oh yeah, plus the tile isn't dark so it's not tsumogiri anyway.
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>>16376258
Did he pass on a yakuman tsumo just to call furiten riichi riichi?
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>>16376258
Is this for real ?
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>>16376258
You know, I guess it makes sense because Junsei Chuuren Poutou is a tenpai with an utterly ridiculous wait, but holy fucking shit lad
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>>16376607
He already had Chuuren Poutou tsumo, no? Plus, if I remember correctly, Tenhou doesn't award double yakuman for a 9-way Chuuren wait. I guess he didn't know that, but even so, looking at the scores, I don't see a good reason to pass up a single yakuman and aim for double.
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>>16376642
He must've I guess but he did it just for kicks
The Junsei version is almost guarenteed a tsumo within 3-4 turns after all
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_9I3MBqmM thread theme
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>>16378678
This video is not available in your country.
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Why was this allowed?
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>>16380370
Not much you can do about it. It seems he was just going for toitoi. He played most of the rest of the game pretty poorly.

Calling that open kan was questionable, but as dealer I there is at least some upside.
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>>16380370
I'm not sure about this play though. If you stay in damaten and draw the 3 pin you now add chanta sanshoku to the hand. Since you already dealt into yakuman you needed the points.
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>>16380370
It is not a question of can I, but of who will stop me.
RIP.
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>>16380568
That hand also improves with a 2 pin for San An Kou.
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WWYD?
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>>16380890
Firstly, I would change my background image to something better, then I would discard the 1s
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>>16380890
Break up either the 3m or 7m pairs to go 1-shanten. If convenient, the way for chinitsu is also paved. Problem with this approach is the need for multiple 6s and 9s.
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>>16380890
Discard the 5s because it leaves the most tiles that can get you to tenpai I think.
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>>16381022
This. Breaking the 5s pair allows you to keep a ryanmen while if you break up the manzu pairs you're stuck with shanpon waits.
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>>16381022
Yup, anything else is greed with too much risk.
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My mom plays American style mahjongg and wants her very own set. What set do I buy her /jp/? It's hard to pick out a set online, and none of the stores here have open sets where I can feel the tiles and stuff.
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>>16383034
Why is it called American mahjong when it's primarily played by Israelites?
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>>16383034
Apparently you need to find a set with both flowers, seasons and one with 8 Joker tiles. So a normal set, minus the akadora and with all that shit. Good luck. Maybe get one with aka as well and teach her riichi
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>>16383056
My mom isn't even Jewish my man
>>16383168
What does that mean my man? I don't play mahjong. Can you link me to a set I should buy?
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>>16383168
I don't even think I've ever seen a Mahjong set that includes both American style tiles + akadora.

>>16383205
Amazon has a lot of American sets, any one with 166 tiles should fit the bill and be entirely usable with American mahjong rules.

In general, the make of most Mahjong sets are going to be similar quality-wise unless you're planning on buying either extremely expensive or extremely cheap tiles, so your main concern is probably going to be the color and style of the tiles. I'd recommend consulting your mother if it's not a surprise gift so you can get what she would want.
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>>16383251
>In general, the make of most Mahjong sets are going to be similar quality-wise

I'll just ask her to pick one out then.

Thanks pal!
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>>16383288
Another anon here, be careful not to buy a mini-mahjong set unless that's what you want.
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>>16383205
Oh thought you played mahjong. Was gonna link you to a set, but it keeps saying my post is spam.
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>Start off 1+1+0+0
Well this isn't so bad
>Now it's 1+1+0+3
Well guess I'm about to downrank.
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>>16383369
Have a cup of tea, calm down and focus. You'll do fine.
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>>16383962
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>>16384099
I forgot the once a day cooldown or I would've had another.
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Is this game supposed to be extremely stressful?
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>>16384590
Yes.
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>>16384590
Yes because so much of it is out of your control.
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>>16384590
What are you saying it's tanoshii
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>>16384278
Shiet nigga. That's a dama hand.
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>load up main account and hit Ari Ari hanchan button.
>Realise after match begins that I absentmindedly hit the ippan lobby
>These low-ranks are one lucky punch away from destroying my R
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>>16385145
You will never beat beginner's luck.
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>mfw, losing into six 4ths in a row

Why must this game be so cruel?
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>>16386242
>mfw iishanten hell for a shitty tanyao / pinfu / iipeiko or deadend tenpai
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>>16385145
Beginner's Luck too strong.
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>>16385177
>>16386593
Thankfully I managed to get 1st
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1:0
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>five 1位s in a row
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>>16388321
Don't worry, you're going to pay for those soon enough.
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>>16385033
Well it's in south 4, any other situation and I agree. Without a direct hit the baiman does nothing. If I can tsumo (or hit an ura dora) that's a sanbaiman at minimum, and the sex button will cause people to give me more draws. I also know that the dealer is in panic mode because of the score difference and is fairly likely to end up discarding around that range since he dumped the 2 sou so early. He eventually ended up with the same wait I did with a suji trap.
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>>16388334
Just got my sixth.
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>>16388664
Must feel awful, knowing that doom is lurking just around the corner, coming to get you. It could be your very next game.
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>>16388664
I too was once like you... Now I struggle with kusoge and the spirits of busted past
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>>16388848
>>16389015
I thought the inevitable doom was already out for me when I dealt into a bullshit dealer mangan in east 1 of my next game, but managed to place 2nd in the end. Oh well, it was a good run. Now it's time to accept whatever punishment the mahjong gods have in store for me.
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I want to play.

Please come to 7447.


Yours truly,
3:0
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>>16389118
I need to downrank first. I've been 1 off for the last 3 games.
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>>16389200
Good luck!
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>>16389213
Wow, did everything I could and it just didn't matter.

Even managed to steal 3rd on West 1 only for 4th place to tsumo a dealer mangan the next hand.

Been as high as 6 dan and I've come crashing down to 4 dan. I'll probably fall out of Tokujou soon enough.
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>>16389418
It's alright, I've been there too. Went from 6d to within one game of demotion to 3d. I climbed my way back up without dropping out of tokujou. If you have the skill, you'll get back eventually.
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1:4

The night is young, come play.
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>>16389677
Where did all the lesbians go?
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>>16390384
They left after four hours of no tanoshii
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I've been having some good times myself. ironically, my losses have been somewhat to my advantage keeping me in 3dan with small loss of R. I'm able to boost up my R prior to entering 4dan hell.

We'll all make it to Tokujo, bros.
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>3rd place in orasu
>start with sweet nishanten comeback hand
>last place instantly pons the dragons and wins for 1han staying 4th
way to ruin my tanoshii, faggot
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>>16392959
These types of wins are the hallmark of bad players.
Actually giving up and letting 3rd place get ron'd by someone else, pushing them down past you, is a better strategy.

Literaly doing nothing in the flimsy hope that another player will save you from 4th is a better way to play than winning with a cheap hand in orasu. Let that sink in.
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>>16392990
It's worse than being a bad player, it's being a stupid person with no common sense.
I'm sure I never made that mistake, not even when I was a beginner at 1300R
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>>16392959
>nishanten
It's ryanshanten, my man.

>>16392990
>>16393020
Some people are mentally deficient and can't think situationally. Even in tokujou I've seen people behind 20k points go for cheap 1000 point hands in S3, and without S4 being their dealer round. If you're in last you need to buy as much time to catch up as possible. You should NEVER go into oorasu in last place. Needless to say he probably didn't stay in tokujou for too long.
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>>16392771
>We'll all make it to Tokujo, bros.
Fuck you too, I just fell out of Tokujou.
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>>16393313
So you'd already made it. Just dust yourself off and walk back in.
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Where's my yakuman, oh great it's in my discards.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017011107gm-0059-0000-dd13eef4&tw=1&ts=7

I played poorly and won anyway.
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>>16394187
Wow, I didn't know that you could chankan a pei dora in sanma.
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>>16393499
Oh damn that feels bad.

I'm also still sad about this.
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>>16394384

It's not chankan, but yes, you can ron off it in the superior mode.
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>Accidentally discard the wrong tile
>Right after that, someone discards the tile I was going to
>Gets ronned
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>>16393499
If it makes you feel better, you wouldn't have tsumo'd that hand anyways.
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While on the topic of win/pass: would you rather Ron a player in the last round for a guaranteed 2nd place, or attempt the uncertain option of trying to snipe the lead player to take 1st?
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>>16395905
>or attempt the uncertain option of trying to snipe the lead player to take 1st?

Depends on pools obviously, but this option.

He who hesitates is lost.
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>>16395989
An example

>playing mahjonng with family
>first place is in riichi
>sitting in tenpai
>pass over 7s, first to be discarded this hand
>goes around
>first throws 7s
>stare him in the eyes
>ron
>dealer mangan for the win
>walk away with 20 bucks and the taste of glorious victory

It isn't always worth it, but when it works out it's the best feeling in the world.
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What's best way to simulate a mahjong round with provided information like hand and discard condition?
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>>16396067
http://tenhou.net/6/
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>>16395905
Depends on if there's any chance of becoming last. If there's a real risk of ending last, I'd choose the guaranteed 2nd place. If there isn't, I'd shoot for 1st.
Basically, last place avoidance > getting first > getting second. Second is basically a consolation price.
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>score yakuman
>not win game

Well, sucks for this guy.
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>>16396978
He was still +12 though, so it's not too bad
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Is there a way to see your monthly +/- score in 0?
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>>16397374
I don't think so, but you can easily calculate it, if you're talking about the placement points.
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>>16397482
Yeah, end game score.
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>>16397488
Just multiply the number of placements by the points you get for each one. You can ignore 3rd place since it's always +0.
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>>16397374
The 得点 row. From left to right, the columns are total, total rank, average, average rank.
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>>16397482
>+134
Oh boy, can't wait to lose the next 3 matches. At least I'm not yet at the point where I need to worry about my R or rank.
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>>16397374
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/

Limit your search to L0 and the start / end dates.
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1:0 again
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>>16399001
2.0
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What would you discard? You should be able to solve this.
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>>16399507
Clearly the haku is the best way to go.

Or, you know, the 7s you have 3 of and that just passed against everyone, but most importantly, against the potential yakuman.

The toimen pays half on a tsumo, so at least you'd only end 3rd.
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>>16399507
5s
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>>16399507
7s
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>>16399507
white tile, his pool is too normal to be waiting on that
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>>16399521
>>16399525
>>16399622
Joke's on you, C-kun was miles away from tenpai.
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>>16399700
He had at least a haneman, at most a yakuman. I stand by my choice of not even taking your chances.
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>>16399708
You're 100% correct, considering C got into tenpai one turn after. D was extremely lucky he didn't end up in last.
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>>16399521
>The toimen pays half on a tsumo
That's only if he lets him pon the third set.
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>>16399826
Right, I forgot that he can't tsumo a daisangen.
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>>16399700
He had zero honors in her s discards and two dragons. Having recently dished out a tsuiisou to someone who made that same math, I'd rather duck this one out and 7s
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>>16399507
2s
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Pretty straightforward. Get starting hand, discard until tenpai. Guess which discard is the best then click that 何切る button to check if your decision is correct. Alternatively, choose 3 from dropdown on top right then analyze yourself why the choice with black star is the best.
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>Winning by 20000
>S4 comes around
>drawn out
>drawn out
>drawn out
>drawn out
>drawn out

Hell is real. I'm just I never got got, so there was no chance hell of a West
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I finally got out of my sub-1500 hell by deciding not to be retarded. How high does your rank have to be before it shows up in games?
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>>16399507
How do you make the names A, B and C? Is that a client only thing?
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>>16401238
It's a replay, they do that automatically.
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>>16401220
1800
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>>16401256
Really? When I look at my replays it keeps the names. Or are replays a different thing than the fourth tab?
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>>16401287
They show the names for you but other people see them as A, B and C. I think.
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>>16401285
I have a long way to go then.
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>>16399700
Hindsight is 20/20
I still stand by discarding the 5s, it keeps you ryanshanten and doesn't risk dealing into yakuman.
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>>16401163
>I'm just I never got got
What did he mean by this?
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>>16401599
I dropped a word. Add "glad" after just
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>>16401309
We all do my friend. One day we'll all make it to Tokujo and play in the big leagues.
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>>16401238
I don't know about the Flash or HTML5 clients, but the Windows client can toggle names with this.
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What time do tokujou players here play in ranked? I never see anyone from the jay there.
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>>16402211
There aren't that many from here in Tokujou, really. I just play whenever, except late at night when I'm tired and I know I will fuck up and take a loss. UTC-3, by the way.
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>>16402231
Then we only have a 2 hour difference. Maybe we'll see each other sometime.
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>>16402211
i play on random days and hours. although, you are very likely to see me on wed/fri evenings PST. i am playing other games atm so can't be on everyday.

almost ranking back up to 5 dan. looking at my stats, i am climbing with a 21.5% 1st, and 25.5% 4th. im at 393 games since being 4 dan.
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>S4
>2nd place
>3rd place calls riichi
>4th place goes full retard and deals into an ippatsu
>Because of the ippatsu, and only because of it, I get knocked down to 3rd place

You fucking asshole, you weren't even in tenpai and you had safer tiles to deal. I hate you so fucking much.
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Tenhou's unicode isn't working on my computer

Is there something I can do to fix this?
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>>16401301
This is correct, but you can turn off names yourself in replays as well.
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>R2105
>Deals in 4 times
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>>16403773
>Ippan tales
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>>16404433
That happened in Tokujou, actually.
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>>16404007
Change locale.
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>>16404449
I believe you.
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>>16404518
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017011307gm-0029-0000-5975edb6&tw=1&ts=14

Here's the replay. D-san is 1975R, to boot. In his defense, it was against a shanpon wait.
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>>16404536
If you are in 4th on South 4, defense is usually pointless. If you are dealer on South 4 and in 4th, there is almost never a reason to play defense.
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>>16404641
True, but his 3s discard was a wild guess. He also had a 6p which he would need to get rid of eventually. Generally a 3 will be safer than a 6, but if you're taking a wild guess against a 9p riichi, I would have probably gone with the 6p.

I know this is all hindsight, but I was pretty frustrated at the moment.
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>He even hit the ura dora
That is not ok. Tokujou players shouldn't be hitting the sex button with nothing against a possible yakuman.
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>>16405620
No guts. No glory
>>
Check out these repeating digits.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017011403gm-0029-0000-2b1aab7a&tw=2

More Tokujou embarrassment. A-san (1962R) disconnecting after not getting a riichi In S4.
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Disregarding the final result ippatsumo pinfu, would discarding 8m be better than 7p/9p? I thought keeping 8m in case of ittsu.
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>>16408699
It's still early in the round and relatively early in the game so in this case I think it's fine either way.
In this case I'd discard 9p before 7p though, because keeping the 7p for longer makes it more likely to pair it and still allows for tanyao if you'd want that (probably not in this case because 1m is the dora, but hey)
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Am I stupid? What was I supposed to do. Eating that dealer haneman cost me the game.
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>>16408831
Sometimes there's just nothing you can do. You had no safe tiles
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>>16408831
I always avoid cutting 3s and 7s unless there's compelling indications that they are safer than 2,1,8,9s. I have no specific reasons to give you aside from my dealing into way too many penchan and kanchan waits around 3/7
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You ever wonder if somewhere in japan there's a dude you ron'd into oblivion that got so mad he broke shit or took it out on his family?
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>>16408996
It's what keeps me going.
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>>16408831
No safe tile but maybe I would avoid the dora suit.
Discard pin and man tiles, maybe 7p because it's shompai.
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>>16409636
I meant 7pp isn't a shonpai.
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>>16408699
There are three 9m out, so your chances of ittsuu are tiny. Given how early it is you're better off going for a fast tenpai and declaring riichi (on 8p or 3s kanchan if need be) before anyone else.

>>16408831
You were pretty screwed here but 3m would be slightly better, as it's suji for the 6m that passed immediately before his riichi.
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1:0
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017011413gm-0009-7447-5a3f58ac&tw=2

S4 of this replay: How much of an asshole am I?
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>>16410787
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>>16410787
>That trigger dicsipline

Good job, I probably would have riichi'd and hoped for an ura
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>>16410787
Nice.
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>>16410787
A bit, since two 2p had just passed, as had the 5p. I'd say that was well played though, so not too assholeish. Very very close though, I'd have to say you're lucky someone called riichi.
A really shouldn't have called riichi, because it looks to me like that's all he has, which wouldn't have gotten him a to 3rd even with a direct hit on 3rd.
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>2:0
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>>16408699
Like the other guy said, three 9m are already out.
Even if I was sure to get the last 9m I would take the fastest hand here.
Riichi + Pinfu or Iipeikou + 2 Dora is Mangan, I think it's enough at this point.
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>>16410787
>that yamagoshi
Nice play.
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Playing with the high ranked members in 7447 was a good reminder that I have much to learn.

That said, throwing tiles in wild abbadon with nothing to lose was fun in and of itself.
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