Gust thread

So, I have a deep and phylosophical question regarding the Surge Concerto series.One that might just strike deep into the heart of the franchise itself.

Does Nei Yuuki have a bigger chest then Ion?

I want them to announce the new Atelier already though I know it's still too early.

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Merry Christmas, don't forget about Ion!

>>16314624

>Day 795
Now that, my friend, is true dedication. Good on ya. Merry Christmas to you and your Ion.

So, I have been playing Sophie on Hard. Beat the final boss and saw there was postgame content.
>Light Elemental
What the fuck. I even crafted some damn excellent armor and I get steamrolled.

Hyped for Steam releases of Nights of Azure and Atelier Sophie.

The thread took a while to be created this time.

>>16317041
You have to kill the elementals as fast as you can because if you wait too long, they'll start to use attacks that stack time cards like crazy.

Forget about defense and just go full offense. Rely on the automatic healing that Wonder Stimulant has (I think) and stack the automatic revival effect from the dunkelheit.

Use Breezy Aroma for timed healing on the whole party.

Sophie has no weight limit so I let her hold multiple copies of extra large, extra destructive, extra usage Heaven's Cleansing and God's Gift and just spam them every turn.

>>16328467
Thanks, that might come in handy, but she starts acting two, three or four times each turn right when the battle begins, and heals a good amount too. I'll have to do some heavy thinking about this.

>>16317041
I had a funny fight with Light Elemental. At first I tried using buff and item and spam skill + normal attack but LE got all these buff and defeat me. It was on Easy difficulty too.

So I tried to just spam normal attack on my next try and she died in 3 turns.

>>16317681

I'm just glad they pulled in Durante to help with the ports.

So, how legit is Solaris Japan? Anyone with experience ordering from them?

>>16339295
I've ordered from them multiple times. They're legit
They price gouge new releases, but their used games are unbeatable. Great prices, pristine cover, manual and disc condition. I actually have a hard time figuring out what part of them is "used"

>>16339295
Only used them for PSN cards, but that worked without propblems

>>16317681
>Hyped for Steam

Get out

>>16344595
It's not about steam itself. It's about PC release, which means:
- posiibility of graphics mods (mesh and texture format for these games is known)
- possibility of mods adding more customizsation(it's defined in xml files, easily edited)
-injecting effects with reshade/gedosato/etc.
- posibility of memory/save editing to avoid grind or unlock specific items
- etc.

>>16345168
Let's be honest with ourselves, okay?

>possibility of nude mods

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Mel has betrayed us. Fuck everything.

>>16345168
Go play atelier skyrim instead if you want mods that much.

>>16345168
Fuck off. Why is this even necessary for games like Atelier? Also fuck save editing. Same with nude mods. Play the game the way it was made and just go jerk off to stuff on the panda.

>>16341628
I regularly buy used doujinshi off of mandarake, and every time without fail they are all in perfect condition, it's great. I guess japanese just take really good care of stuff they own.

>>16341628
>>16341713
That's what I wanted to know. I'm looking at getting the agent pack for Ciel offline, so I'm looking for a good place to buy it, and Solaris seems to have it for a good price.

>>16345555
Have you been to Japan? They take good care of their country. No shit or garbage on the streets. It's amazing.

>>16346091
It's not a diverse country like the USA though. Imagine if Japan had over 50% of its population not be japanese but immigrants from the past 150 years. What would the country be like then?

Quick reminder that Luca is, as always, a slut and the worst girl.

>>16349395
Quick reminder that many things in and outside the game confirm that to be false.

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quick reminder that Ion is, in fact, best girl.

Surprised it hasn't been posted here yet but the AT2 retranslation effort got its final patch a few days ago.

http://www.at2.metalbat.com/?p=664

>>16349736
Well, i'd say she is the one true waifu.

She loves YOU, not a self insert character or anything.

>>16349736
I feel like we non-moonspeak folk missed a hell of a ride not being able to play this game.

>>16355892
Moonspeaker here.
It wasn't a life-changing experience, it didn't fulfill my expectations, really. I expected a bit more from the story. The script could have been better too.

And nonetheless... nonetheless I still boot the game every now and then and I can't help but smile when I see Ion, and think I missed her a bit.

>>16355918
The story does have its flaws, but i still find it deep and engaging. To say nothing of how Ion carries the rest of the game through sheer adorableness alone.

Incidentally, I'm coming up to the end of chapter 7... I'm kind of putting it off because seeing Ion like that actually kind of hurts. A lot.

>>16337921
I don't think it was confirmed.

>>16362212
They at least sought him out, whether he actually did or not has not been confirmed as you say but at least it's something.

>>16345168
It also means the 3D character models will pop up on Gmod sooner or later. I both love and hate the idea.

>>16345168
you can get the models from the ps3 or vita versions already though?

I saw images of shallotte in cm3d2 but I don't know if they were shops or not.

For Sophie:
>勇気の覚醒：強敵補正・ボス補正
Rough translation: >Bravery Awakening: Strong Enemies correction, Boss correction.
What does this actually do?

>>16368564
Buffed stats when fighting against enemies classified as "boss" or "strong enemy"

>>16369786
Oh, just like that, huh. Too bad I can't see exactly how much the stats are buffed.

>>16350395
Oh shit they're finally done!

ANy neews on the fan translation for ayesha?

Porn or no porn?

Happy Shikata birthday, /gust/!

Which Gust games are actually worth playing?

>>16377637
The ones with girls you like

>>16377637
All of them.

Which websites do Japanese gust fans go to?

>>16380045
is this game gonna be similar to omega quintet?

>>16380656
No, are you retarded?

>>16380302
>pantyshot
brb, preordering

>>16380656
2ch

>>16380302
What does it smell like?

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Sagittarius > MARIA

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There's a rather nice scale fig of Arnice out for preorder.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-027206

>>16394630
I can't deal with that semi transparent hair garbage. It's a shame, because for a new company the figure doesn't look too bad.

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>>16344595
No
I will look forward to Gust re-releases and you can't stop me!

>>16394652
Have you ever seen hair in real life man? It is semi transparent, no joke.

>>16395901
Everything is semi transparent if you get it thin enough.

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We want the cow audience.

Why is this allowed?

>>16345168
>-injecting effects with reshade/gedosato/etc.
Literally cancer.

>>16396850
Gedosato isn't actually all that bad.
All it does is raise the in-game resolution and then downsample it to your screen. (for example, running a game at 4k on a 1080p screen) Its basically the highest quality (but also highest cost) form of anti-aliasing. It doesn't mess with the art of a game in any way.

Speaking of which, KT just released more information about that release:
http://gematsu.com/2017/01/atelier-sophie-nights-azure-steam-bonuses-revealed-first-trailers

>>16396845
Because we're not allowed to have nice things.

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>>16397370

>Steam reveal trailer
>It's still not on Steam

I'm not sure what else I expected from TKE

>>16395901
Anime isn't real life and so it doesn't have to be limited to the same aesthetics

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>>16398856
So what's the point of having yuri in these games? They'd largely be better without the pandering.

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>>16398856
The reveal trailers still had Playstation button prompts too, so the bit of gameplay they showed in the trailers wasn't even from the version they're putting on Steam either. At least we have screenshots now.

>>16399269
Back to wherever the hell you came from.

>>16399594
I want Dusk+ and Arland+ on PC, or at ps4.

>>16396845
Is that just the light, or was Alyushe's hair not as red as it is in the game? Like, before she turned into a half demon.

>>16399594

To be fair many games have an input based prompt system so if you're using a controller it'll display console buttons but if you use a keyboard it'll display keyboard and mouse inputs. So the gameplay shown could have easily been PC. Whether TKE is smart enough for such a marvel of technology is up for debate though..

So I uploaded prepatched AT2
http://www.mediafire.com/file/8rxoy4y0lw9q6fk/Ar_tonelico_2_Project_Metafalica.rar
Enjoy

>>16403995

>Mediafire
>3.6GB

Huh. Is this new?

>>16403995
>blocked

>>16404236
Here you go
https://mega.nz/#!VItABZJY!DTk9B810St0hcNNfawSV3aS-iFp3BPFuEEMSyrSehjM

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>>16404665
Thanks, buddy.

>>16403995
>The file you attempted to download was determined to be dangerous. For your protection, MediaFire does not enable distribution of dangerous files.

>>16399761
I'm sincerely asking. I can't see any way in which the games are improved by adding this particular content and numerous ways in which the material detracts from their overall quality.

>>16404665
So does this work?

>>16407795
So you can't see how a story having two people who are attracted to each other can have any value add to a game?

I honestly can't understand what your problem with them being girls is, but love has been a core story device through out human history. If you have a problem with it being between girls, that's your problem, not the story's.

>>16408993
But in the vast majority of Gust games, it's not love, it's fanservice meant to titillate the majority male demographic. The involved heroine(s) eventually end up with a dude or the yuri content doesn't progress anywhere in most cases. It doesn't lend itself to improving the characterization and rather instead makes the characters more shallow and cliche (because the pandering scenes are just reiterations of similar scripts).

>>16409097
Leave /jp/. Nobody wants to deal with this faggoty argument anon. If you don't like yuri fine but go on /a/ or /v/ instead and create a yuri hate wank thread there for all I care.

>>16409374
Whoa anon, getting a bit touchy. I didn't mean anything by it.
It's fine if it's just a matter of subjective taste or something, it'd just be nice if someone could articulate in what fashion it improves the games when generally it appears to be the most superficial and tacked on aspect of them.

>>16409414
The biggest reason for girl's love is because it allows the girls to develop relationships in the course of the story, while still leaving the player to feel like they are available.

Culturally, yuri is seen in Japan as a 'bored girl' phenomenon. Basically, the (incorrect) idea is that girls that cannot find a man to love will lean on their female friends for comfort. It does not mean the girl doesn't like guys, it means that she really trusts and loves her friend.

Any relations the girl has with another girl are non-consequential to the idea of her being pure because it's not sex with a man, so the nerds that need that can remain attached to their 'waifu'.

So from a marketing perspective, it is much easy to have a girl-girl relationship in the story than a girl-boy.

Meanwhile, I don't see any detraction from a game with the inclusion of yuri, which is why I suggested that you must have a personal hang-up around this instead. I've yet to see a game whose quality was affected by this 'detracting' effect of yuri that you seem to imply exists.

So honestly, I'd turn your whole question around and say this: Considering that fanservice will happen, as a design intention, what's the problem with the inclusion of yuri? Is two girls being in love really that disgusting to you?

There's like only two GUST works with explicit yuri...

In case somebody missed it, Ciel nosurge Story in English ended today.
252 videos overall. Just barely missed a buffer overflow.
The last video:
https://youtu.be/6rCXDx609Us

Been watching it for a long time, though probably not for as long as some other people here. Will miss the experience.
Now the only thing left to do is translate the game itself, I guess. Unlikely to happen any time soon, though.
Thanks to the translator, I guess, I think he visits these threads. Really enjoyed your work, and it helped me understand what was going on Ar Nosurge. Thanks, man.

>>16411762
Holy shit, CnS ending without SekaiLink is true suffering.

Just imagine you've spent over a year with someone to the point where you know them well enough to marry them, and then you ask them to kill you off so they can save their friends and the world. Many tears were shed. ;_;

>>16412680
If you were playing the games as they were released, you reunited with Ion in AnS before she turns you off in CnS. I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional. Ion's timeline is not the same as your timeline; this is especially apparent because you taking the Shurelia ending and reloading your game is considered canon vis a vis the EXA_PICO universe, just like when Nero changed reality to try to return to her world.

Another way to look at it, there's a causal loop paradox. You started playing AnS where Ion did turn you off, so you had to get Ion to turn you off in CnS in order to close the loop.

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I did it. This game was better than I expected but the last one I played was Escha so I wasn't expecting that much. The alchemy minigame was fun until your cauldron gets too good and I liked the idea of unlocking recipes by doing requirements instead of just buying the recipes. Also I liked how Sophie was cute and how you could see up the little girls china dress thing at the end of battles.

However I didn't like how the game went from reasonably difficult to unreasonably easy once I found out I could put +30 stats on all my equipment. Due to the weird pacing I feel I didn't really get to explore or battle all that much after you clear the first set or recipes. But a lot of the maps felt pointless and empty anyway so maybe it was for the best. The worst part by far was there were no zany endings.

Overall it was okay. I don't think I like it enough to buy it again on steam but I'll get the 2nd one when it comes out in a few months.

On a scale of Escha to Meruru how good is Shallie Plus?

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>>16412680
Suffer more.

>>16416369

If you insist, I guess I could look for meaning in the terminal showing the view through Ion's eyes for a brief moment.

>>16416567
I always interepreted that as a small side effect of overlooking viewpoint manefesting itself right before the connection is fully cut.

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Do you guys just live with the checkered background during VN scenes, or is there a fix for it?

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>>16417818
Never seen that one, even with hardware acceleration. I prefer software mode, if CPU can handle it, it's more accurate and I don't like upscaling in sprite based games.

>>16417818
Use native resolution

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this art reminds me that we don't know whether blue reflection will have transformation scenes or not.

>>16411762

So then, is the project considered, or is there any way to get some of the more important Sekailink parts from the story translated? Or some of the more interesting conversations that arise from Ion building stuff.....

Either way, thanks for the ride and all of the effort needed to translate the story.

>>16420094

>So then, is the project considered finished*

>>16420094
>>16420117
Again, I'm not the guy translating this.
I pretty much explicitly said that in my post.

>>16420495

I am aware, but he also checks in on this thread occasionally.

>>16420516
Oh, alright.
Just seemed like you were talking to me here from how you phrased it.

Is Mana Khemia the comfiest Gust game?

>>16421043
Except for a few instances, Ciel is probably the most comfy Gust game.

>>16421111
Is it worth watching the youtube playthrough, or do you miss out on too much of the experience for not actually playing it?

I did read the detailed summary way back when before ANS came out already.

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>>16421120
If anything, watching the Youtube playthrough made me want the game much more. Ion's an absolute miracle in Ciel.

>>16420094
CnSiE is finished. The intention of the project was to do a run of the story with just enough Ion for people to get some attachment, and then end with an unlinked ending.

The idea behind this end was that this is the Ion that English Ar nosurge players meet -- one that switched the terminal to the ES45 but ended up losing her "Anata" and having to have someone else help her instead. The Cielno "Anata", knowing this would happen, shares their experience so that the new (Arno) "Anata" knows what Ion's been through and how much she needs their help.

>>16421120
It's definitely not the same as playing it. It's a compromise. You can see the story, and get a taste of interacting with Ion, but you miss the daily interaction part of the game that really make's Ion feel like part of your life.

Since you read the write up the video series may or may not be interesting to you.

>>16421111
The memories in Ciel is roughly the exact opposite of comfy.

What is the best atelier game?

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>>16421120
It's been said before, but the stuff the Youtube series covers is only about ~25% of the game content. I'm not going to downplay the hurdle that is the game being in Japanese, but hanging out with Ion is worth learning as you go. It certainly was to me.

>>16421208
I highly recommend it. Just watching CnSiE doesn't do justice to how adorable Ion is. Like i said before, even if you have to learn and get used to Japanese on the way, it's more then worth it.

>>16421334
This. The daily life part of Ciel IS the game. The story bits covered in the videos and the write up are just thematic icing on the wonderful cake that is hanging out with Ion.

That said, I enjoyed re-watching the story in english. The unlinking ending was a bit painful to watch, though.

>>16421555
That's not entirely correct. The stuff that happens in the story is, in fact, the opposite of comfy, but whenever you come out of 夢の世界, Ion's there waiting, and you get to discuss what happened. This helps to aliviate the mood a bit, kind of like a breather episode in an anime. Which is what makes the end of chapter 7 and the proceeding 3ish days so soul crushing. To say nothing of what happens in the unlinking ending.

In summary, if you haven't played Ciel, you should. It's an investment, ESPECIALLY time wise, but hanging out with Ion is well worth it.

Remember when GUST games had a good soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkOvlU3vyvw&t=0s

Yoru no nai Kuni delayed again. This time it's just somewhen in 2017.
http://gematsu.com/2017/01/nights-azure-2-delayed-general-2017-japan

FAQ? What is this thread

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>>16422497
Is there anything they haven't delayed in japan for several years now? Their handheld ports maybe.
>>16422671
Thread about games by the company Gust, previously ar tonelico thread.

>>16422698
Oh thanks. Are they ps4 games or can I play without a playstation

>>16422838
It's mostly playstation games (not just ps4 but earlier and handheld also) but there is some options.

2 games are releasing soon on pc, atelier sophie and nights of azure.
Emulation for anything ps2, ps1, psp, ds. There is help in the op for emulation.
>>16314286
>▶ Ar Tonelico for Lazy People Pack
>pastebin.com/mSMzUqU4
One 3ds game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t56TMOv_hIM

Blue Reflection live stream in 10 hours.

>>16422497
At least it won't clash with my Nier time

>>16424973
I'll be working during this time, hope someone can watch it or at least make a summary of it.

>>16424973
Looks like it's just going to be an hour of Mel Kishida wanking about his characters, no gameplay.

Well, Blue Reflection's gameplay seems typical GUST battle system with some gimmick, but that lag when loeading the battle is a serious problems...

>>16424973
Why aren't they streaming on nico? Did it finally die with its 360p and pay-to-seek?

>>16370551
literally what

>>16424973
I can't hear what they're saying over the loud BGM. It looks like a very pretty but sterile spin-off of Atelier, not sure what they were talking about the Ether gauge during the gameplay segment.

>>16429438
Did they gonna retranslated it?

Why is Ion so fat?

>>16431059
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4cnork

>>16432378
Daily motion a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshLdEKyiuY

How's Atelier Sophie?
Only other Atelier game I played was Iris which I thought was aight.

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>>16433995
It's one of my favorites. Whether you like the characters or not is subjective like it is with most jrpgs. Combat and alchemy is as good as usual. The soundtrack is one my favorites as well and I really liked Sophie, Plachta, and Corneria a lot. You may want to play the Arland games first though.

Where did Hidari go

>>16435048
toukiden 2

this is my first atelier game and it is shallie. What can i expect on this game /gust/?

P.S. i ordered a limited edition Atelier Shallie on PS vita

>>16435129
Why would you get a limited edition of a game series you've never even played? You know it's the third game in the Dusk trilogy, right? Don't just buyfag everything anon.

http://gematsu.com/2017/01/atelier-firis-dlc-set-2-now-available-japan

Another large chested character. Wouldn't kill you to have some variety here, Gust. Just announce the new one already.

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>>16435422
>Patch 1.06 was also released today. It includes the new “Sacred Vestier” collection grounds of ruins and mysterious structures, as well as new quests and formidable monsters.

Is this a first time thing or did they add more zones to the game before?
For Sophie it was only one dungeon, wasn't it?

>>16435129
Same anon

>>16445095
ps4 pro? Do you know if there is anything different other than resolution on firis?

>>16314286
Blue Reflection is totally going to be an inferior game version of Magic Knight Rayearth right? Because that's the vibe I got from everything I've seen of it.

How fucked am I if I play Shallie Plus as my first atelier? I impulse bought it and got it this week

>>16446166

I'm sure the characters will be better, the story about the same, and the combat complete shit, to give an averaged inferior score.

>>16447394
not fucked, just certain "plot twists" will be spoiled for you.

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>>16417818
If you still haven't figured it out you need to enable "Align Sprite Hack" on Half and "Align Sprite Texture" on Full. There still remains a small issue with world map unless you add one line to source and recompile but it's not that bad. (https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/issues/1762)

Blue Reflection trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRITqfXlCU
>6800 yen for Vita download version
Fucking hell. No way I'll get that at full price.

>>16457120
Looks pretty good.

>>16422180
You're probably not still here, but it's worth asking anyway. How much Japanese/what level is required to read Ciel, and how long would I have to study it for?

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>>16457944

the stills look good, the 3d models are pretty. The walk/run animations went a bit far with the cutesy stuff, but otherwise look good.

the combat character animations leave a bit to be desired, and the flying animations near the end there look like there are complete horse shit.

>>16463903

if you can read a lolige at somewhat belowaverage speed, you should be good. the technobabble will lose you, but you will be able to get by.

>>16463903
These are both hard to answer. How long depends on you and your commitment to learning the language, as well as how naturally inclined you are to learning languages.

As far as how hard it is, it tends to hover around JLPT 3-4, i guess? At least in Ion's room. You don't need to read the story portion yourself, just watch CnSie.

How gloomy is the Dusk Trilogy world? I know this is going to be cute girl doing cute thing, which I'm not a big fan of, but I loved Sora No Woto because it mixed CGDCT with a doomed post-apocalypse world.

I find the Souls serie, Castlevania and Darkest Dungeon to have some pretty comfy world if it's worth anything.

>>16417818
I didn't even know this was a bug.

I had a bug where the game was stuck on an infinite loading right after the final dungeon is reveled but that was with a several month old patch so maybe they fixed it or maybe it was something else.

>>16463903
I had 4 years of college level Japanese and two years of muddling my way through occasional Japanese conversations before I started playing Ciel. The episodic nature was nice because Ion was a lot easier to understand than the story portions so everytime a new chapter came out I could do a big push, learn new words and stuff, then relax with Ion again.

I'd say that, like most visual novel style games, if you can get a good grasp of the underlying grammar and structure of Japanese, then you can do a learn as you play approach, learning kanji, vocab, new novel grammars, etc, as you go.

The core grammatical competency is the key part.

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>>16467653
The Dusk trilogy conveyed a sense of melancholy more than a sense of outright gloom. Yes, the world is pretty much ending, but everyone is going on with their lives and it doesn't really get anyone too down.

Honestly, you might want to just try Ayesha for yourself to see if you like it.

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So, I left Ciel nosurge at around chapter 10 and now finally started playing Ar nosurge.

I have no idea what's happening, they're all in the ship and Nei is this Tentouki person and Jill has a(nother) Sharl cult that caught Sarly and there's this Delta dude who looks like a grown Taabou but they seem to be unrelated and they talk about something that happened six months ago without revealing what it is? I have to say, I'm more than a bit confused.

>>16470561
It's your fault for not finishing Ciel first.

>>16470561
Man, AnS had some really fine flat girls.

>>16470561
How on earth do you leave Ciel at Chapter 10. That's the most exciting chapter

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PANIC

>>16464564
>>16464878
>>16468298
Thank you for the detailed replies, I'll give this some though.

>>16470561
Well, the reason they're all in the ship is pretty simple. They fucked up, the planet is destroyed, and so they had to move to Soreil because they don't have a planet anymore.
I really like how nonchalantly this fact is dropped after the ending of Chapter 10 was so optimistic. Hell, it's actually spelled out in the opening. It literally shows the planet falling apart, exactly as it did.
The other things are all explained in the course of the game, honestly. It's just that they were going for confusion in the first chapter for some reason. There are plenty things which are trivial on their own but seem insane because of lack of context.

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/527270/
>Developer: KOEI TECMO GAMES CO., LTD.

>>16470899
>>16470914
Well, I wanted to get the link ending first of all, I had to stop at some point.

>>16471379
Be calm, Anon. Just take it easy and trust in your relationship with Ion.

Anybody has scans for Kaleido Sphere～天淵の双つ星～?

Still no word on whether we're getting that free Sophie dlc or not? That's a huge dick move if they don't give it to us.

>>16473433
My bet is it'll be integrated with the game. It's pretty much an epilogue that finishes the story, can't leave that out.

So I'm kinda--okay super ignorant, what type of game is this? it looks really comfy and cute

>>16473769
They can't really integrate it with Firis though since it's post-game dlc for Sophie. I just hope they announce it sometime soon.

>>16472114
I'm still mad. And they don't even credit Gust either.

>>16473959
What? I'm saying I think it'll come included with Sophie when you download the game, without being offered as DLC.

>>16473972
Assist me http://steamcommunity.com/app/527280/discussions/0/143388511231799876/?tscn=1485472725

>>16474344
>without being offered as DLC.

You do know that the PS4 version was released about a year ago? They would have to offer it as dlc.

>>16474379
Ah, sorry, I played it in Jap, so I thought you were talking about the Steam version for Sophie. I didn't know the localization didn't have the DLC yet.

>>16474403
Yeah. We still don't have it and that's why I'm getting worried here.

>>16470548
Alright, I see.

How does the game run on vita ? Is it Ar nosurge tiers ? I really hated the fact that it made your vita heat up.

Is there a waifu that can top Ion ?

Prices for the Steam releases are up
http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/2371/

>>16403405
Koei's PC ports have been pretty garbage when it comes to inputs. You don't even get XBOX face buttons, just numbers.

>>16474603
Unfortunately Ayesha is the worst Dusk game performace wise, but the whole thing is so good I didn't mind. Compared to Ar nosurge, I'd say a bit worse performance in battles but fine everywhere else.

>Is there a waifu that can top Ion?
Not in Atelier, or possibly anywhere else. Gust really outdid themselves with Ion and she'll always have a special place in my heart, though she's not my waifu.

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>>16474603
>Is there a waifu that can top Ion ?

Yes.
She's not quite as adorably cute, but she more than makes up for it in other ways.

A heads-up for people like me who missed out on buying The Finder (Surge Concerto artbook) when it was first released:

GUST is currently holding a survey on whether there's demand for a reprint.

http://social.gust.co.jp/pc/event/surge/refinder

>>16479246
The anket also asks if there's any other surge materials that you'd like to see re-released.

I highly recommend encouraging them to reprint the 7次元通信 DVD webvideo collection. For the first few months they had Nana Inoue (Kanon) and Ai Kakuma (Ion) doing a web video series with character skits news, and some other stuff.

At one point they had Nana, Maaya Uchida (Nay), Inori Minase (Cas), and someone else building little robots and racing them. There was also a cooking segment. They ended up taking each episode down/offline after like two weeks and I cannot find a single fucking repository online for those episodes ANYWHERE.

That DVD is my only hope, and the bitches reselling it on amazon.co.jp are pricing it higher than Filament Star at this point.

>>16480340
Oh, nvm, found a copy for 5000円. Buying that shit and putting subtitled versions on dailymotion once it gets here.

>>16480340
>anket
FYI, that's not an English word. Are all GUST anons fluent in Jap?

>>16480340
Speaking of, a reprint of Filament star would be nice.

>>16480699
It certainly helps.

>>16480699
the japanese actually stole that word from the french, enquête

>>16480699
Sorry man, I autopiloted anket in there. Spend too much time in Japanese, sometimes I get stupid about fixing borrow words like that.

Though, if you were going to fill it out, you'd probably need some Japanese anyways. (Survey is just "I would like it" or "I would not like it" and a comment box, but you'd still need a MyGust account.)

I think this place does have a high ratio of jpn-enabled individuals though compared to some other threads.

>>16474603
In terms of intimacy? Maybe not, with the way the two games are set up.

In terms of character? Ion doesn't have anything to write home about.

>>16474603
No. You have other series for you waifushit.

>>16485237
Ion's emotionally stronger than perhaps any other GUST character. Keep in mind that the Ion you first meet has already experienced a long period of imprisonment after getting forcibly pulled out of her own body and world. In other words, she didn't break where Mir did, although Mir also experienced significantly more torture.

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>>16362212
>>16362228
>>16337921
DURANTE CONFIRMED
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=229234293#post229234293

>>16476562
I'll buy the game when it's going to be on sale, then. Plus I hope that Gust may sell a bundle of the trilogy, just like the previous one.

>>16479226
She was funny alright.
But I'm not into flat chest

>>16485237
Yeah, the intamicy is really what did it for me. Even Delata-Cassy where surprisingly good because the harem sheningan were kept to a strict minimum.

As for her character, I'll say she's at least a bit better than your average Ar Tonelico heroine (or just jrpg waifu character). She's not a useless girl who follow the MC everywhere but also manage to be cute as fuck.

I'll say it's the mix of intamicy and the fact that she is the one leading you around that make her great.

>>16485269
The only other serie I like for the waifushit is Rance.

>>16486242
Goddamn, this look good.
Hopefully the port will be good and optimized for low spec computer.

>>16488998
>better than your average Ar Tonelico heroine
None of the AT heroines are useless girls. The no reyvateil battles in AT1/AT2 should have made that quite clear.

Do you guys know what's the deal with Japanese voices and Escha on vita? It's there in ps store but can't be downloaded.

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>>16485569
Ion experienced a fair amount of torture as well, unfortunately.
It's physically painful to listen to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLhWtcwZ5Bzm10RI1TElB3Dnf7kj9UoARJ&params=EAMYATgBSAFYjwFiC21rVkFyYnVQWXdraI8B&v=TS_o96yUhZQ&mode=NORMAL

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>see-through wet uniforms
This is true innovation.

>>16495696
More like shameless fanservice.

>>16495696
this is my fetish

>>16495696
They know what pleases us.

>>16495737
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>16495759
Mine too. Day one purchase confirmed.

>>16498280
It is a bad thing.

>>16498779
No. No it isn't. It's simply label you are using to try and discount and dismiss something without any real knowledge or experience.

"I see something that seems frivolous to me, thus it is bad."

That's retarded. But hey, if you don't like it, that's cool for you. I suspect you won't be interested in many Gust titles going forward though if that's your position.

Me? I'm all for wet clothing mechanics personally, and I welcome our fan-servicey overlords.

tfw Blue Reflection is definitely going to get delayed, Gust delays everything. And they're gonna release it on the same day as Musou Star.

>>16498779
Leave.

>>16345304
Link to the artwork?

>>16499879
>without any real knowledge or experience

Nice assumption but incredibly wrong. It's just cheap sexual fanservic. And why wouldn't I be interested in Gust titles going forward? I'm a huge Atelier fan.

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Wait a minute, you can COMPLETE this thing?

>>16500361
Sex isn't bad or frivolous to have

>>16502401
Okay I never said that. I just hope the game itself is good and its not trying to rely on cheap things.

>>16456485
Nice aspect ratio there, champ.

It's here
http://store.steampowered.com/app/527270/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/527270/

>>16507064
>No japanese text

why ;_;

>>16507064
Fuck off

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>>16507064
HYPE

>>16518396
Huh, I didn't know Yoru was getting released on steam too.

Chance of Ar nosurge also getting on steam: zero

>>16314450
Probably. Also, why does she have brown hair instead of black in that last mail?

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>>16507064
Prices make little sense as usual

>>16518507
They said in an interview that they wanted to put Ar nosurge on Steam but they're not going to because they're worried people will pirate it if they do.

>>16520830
You're going to have to produce some source. I believe Ar Nosurge should be off the table entirely as the IP is owned by Bamco.

>>16520892
Bamco has been doing a bunch of games on Steam lately though

>>16520830
They aren't worried about people pirating Sophie or Yoru?

>>16520892
How does Bamco own Ar nosurge IP? I thought GUST made it while under KT?

>>16520892
Maybe they do with Ar tonelico since that was co-developed with Banpresto, but not the Surge Concerto series.

>>16520830
They never said anything like that in any interviews.

>>16507943
You should be able to switch to Japanese by messing with the text files

>>16518507
>Chance of Ar nosurge also getting on steam: zero
Considering the fact there's not a single EXA PICO character in Musou Stars I think they may have given up on that series.

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I like how tongue in cheek these conversations can get.

Is there any way in hell the AnS LNs will get translated, or just a summary?

>>16527405
But why would they gave up on it? I liked Exa Pico

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For anyone interested, Nights of Azure and Atelier Sophie are out on Steam now.
The game apparently natively supports downsampling.

>>16530378
It works out of the box, which is much more than I expected for KT games.

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>>16531114
Yeah, it looks and runs beautifully.

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>>16531476
>>16531114

Too bad it eats up CPU like a madman.

>>16531960
apparently if you change it so it only uses 1-2 cores and increase its priority to above average/high it works better.

>>16530378

And on Skidrow right now

Thanks for the free games GUST!

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>>16531960
It ate up CPU for the first few scenes, but then it stopped doing so after I got into the game proper.

>>16528428
Weebs these days don't like DEEP AND ENGAGING stories full of COMPLEX characters. They want to fawn over waifus.

Is the Sophie port as bad as people say, or are Steam people overreacting? Already own the game on PS4 but never finished it there, not sure if I should torrent the PC version (already bought the game once get off my back) or just continue on PS4.

>>16533799
Game runs fine at 1080p with my gtx 770 and I5 4700k; does seem to memory leak 5-6 hours into play though.

What difficulty should I play Sophie on?

>>16533799
>as people say
What do they say?
From my experience, it is barely a port, the UI tutorials assume you're using a PS controller and I didn't even bother trying to play it with keyboard and mouse. I think there's no mouse support whatsoever
The characters look really pretty, but everything else looks kind of like ass, but I assume that's how it is on ps4 too. The city feels really empty

It also doesn't seem to be a very good game as far as atelier games go anyway, the combat feels clunkier than usual and so far it feels like Dusk did synthesis better

>>16533826
Bad KB+M controls (don't give a shit, I was gonna use a controller anyway) and really high CPU usage/temps (this one is more worrying to me)

>>16533827
I have i5-6600K and haven't noticed any problems, so I can't say. Same with the supposed memory leaks, sitting at 16gb RAM and didn't experience them

Gust thread - tech support

>>16533799
Getting 100% CPU usage on both games with an 2600K. Some people seem to be doing fine though. Wait for a patch.

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>>16533799
The port eats CPU but its otherwise fine. It works out of the box at 4k and doesn't seem to have any other issues so I'm happy with it.

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The game is freezing after very first dialogue with Platcha when the screen going black.
C-can you please upload a save file right after this moment?

Anyone wanna play coop for AnS?

>>16534731
Its slightly ahead but only slightly
https://mega.nz/#!jEFyQACK!ARbNMUkl6FID6nh3507rEeEaHHAJZFJyhDN2UlOnMgY
>>16534627
The CPU usage isn't a real problem
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=229939768#post229939768
Its not actually using that much CPU

>>16534773
where do i place this file?

>>16534830
Documents -> KoeiTecmo -> A17 -> SAVEDATA

>>16534835
Thanks! Now I'm saved unless game will freeze at some other point again.

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>>16534773
>The CPU usage isn't a real problem
>Its not actually using that much CPU
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean? It's on 100% load on all cores and all threads. How is this not a fucking problem? I noticed this shit because the intro video for NoA would stutter like fuck while the game was running but played fine outside the game.

>>16534773
>>16534870
>The Cpu utilization isn't a real issue at all, it's just actively waiting.
What the fuck. Why would you ever do that. This occupies valuable processing time and wastes energy for, literally, doing nothing. It's doing nothing, but it's telling the system it's doing something.
Nobody ever uses active waiting unless you're a low-level programmer, and you literally need it in a kernel. You know why? Because using it in a user application is absolutely retarded. You're actively taking time away from other tasks that could be running and forcing CPU to remain at high frequencies instead of working at low power for a while.
The time is basically actually not in fucking use.
This is just embarrassing mistake for a programmer to commit. Even if he's a retard, there should be some limits.
I think Durante was saying that the problem wasn't that the game wasn't optimised enough, the problem was that it's basically anti-optimised in some respects.
Fucking KT. Or whoever ported this crap.

>>16534870
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229964299&postcount=358

Anyone having slowdown in the menus? It's especially bad when placing those tetris blocks when you are making something

For everyone having CPU issues for NoA or Sophie there's a community fix currently.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7VXEPnaNC1qLU4xVnoyRHhtVjg
Download the one you need and put the one core DLL inside your game folder with the exe.
Fix came from here.
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/527270/discussions/0/133256240744042389/?ctp=5

>>16536369
Does this actually limit the game to using only one core or does it just limit the idle CPU wasting to one core?

>>16536548
I don't know the specifics all i know is i tested on NoA and previous 70% CPU and 50 degrees core went to 25% CPU stable 40 degrees.

PC port really ruined gust threads

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>>16537020

GUST deciding to kill the AT franchise and exclusively do other shit while also having the 3d models and gameplay/programming outsourced to Corea killed gust threads.

NISA introduced errors didn't help much, but that's beside the point.

>>16537042
As if they had killed Ar tonelico.

>>16537042
3D Models is the only thing that gets better with each new game.
What the hell is this graph?

>>16535528
Most programmers suck. All it takes is one

while true { poll_for_work(); }

Does anyone who's playing the relocalised Ar Tonelico II know how to trigger the Lakra event they said they put back in? I'm right before the final boss (door unlocked) and have been revisiting Lakra regularly over Phase 5 but have not been able to get the event.

>>16538031
If you triggered all the events with Chester and Lakra during Phase 4, you should be able to trigger it after Cloche sang METHOD_METAFALICA/.

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Anyone bought the keychains from gust store? I got the arland, dusk and mystery ones but I didn't get to pre-order the ion set

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I just finished playing Ar tonelico 2 for the first time. After observing how much everyone hated each other for much of the game, I decided to throw this together.

>>16538117
Ah damn. Oh well looks like I gotta keep this in mind for my next playthrough.

Huge thanks to the people behind Project Metafalica. This game really deserves it.

>>16538135
I managed to grab the Surge Concerto set a few minutes before it sold out (button went sold out when I was returned to the page after paying).
It was quite a shock for me, considering I had never managed to grab any of SC merchandise I was interested in up to this point.

An Atelier game, Atelier Sophie finally got ported to PC, is it a good port and is it a good first game for entry into the series in general?

>>16539207
Yes and yes.

What do the item colors mean in Sophie when making items? Should I be trying to have all items be same color or what?
Also, does the cauldron upgrade from 4x4 to 5x5 if I fill the bar for it when making a cauldron?

Where the fuck is a good site for all this info?

>>16540104

- [[http://ds-can.com/sophie/][ds-can]]
- [[http://wikisp.com/sophie/][wikisp]]
- [[http://totoneko.com/matome/sophie][totoneko]]
- [[http://wikiwiki.jp/sophie-gust/][wikiwiki]]

>>16539207
No and no.

>>16540497
What did he mean by this?

>>16541066
Leave your shitty meme posts on other boards.

>>16541089
/jp/ is literally the memest board though.

>>16495501
Got to that part for the first time earlier, and ... damn. After listening to the Agent Pack stuff I was somewhat prepared regarding what to expect, but I still felt quite bad about being that idiot who's sitting on the couch, only pressing buttons while Ion is suffering. ;_;

Also, is it just my imagination or is the translation getting worse with every new scene?

>>16541618
Ar nosurge has gotten pretty infamous for having a translation every bit as atrocious as AT2's.

>>16536012
>energy consumption
Also OS scheduling and probably how long CPU will last overall (though the wear shouldn't probably be that significant in most circumstances, but still). Actually pretty important, he's understating it.
Also, I think, CPUs (in particular, desktops and especially notebooks) nowadays can only work at their maximum power for a short while, after which they forcibly throttle, meaning enter a lower frequency and overall start working slower so that they don't overheat. Mind you, if you spend 1 second on 100% and next 10 lower, it's perfectly fine, and this 100% work will be done quicker. I think busy waiting can trigger that too, so you get a drop in performance just because you didn't want to avoid busy waiting.
And if your cooler setup is fucked up in any way? Boy do I have good news for you. Say thanks it's random shutdowns and not your CPU melting away.
This is inexcusable.
Fuck, why is everybody in that thread that is referenced seems to be saying "well, I guess it's just an illusion lol". It's a big fuck-up on their part, not a slight problem that only affects some people.
Next thing we know they will load all the scenes of the game into RAM at once because "unused RAM is wasted RAM lol you should have a terabyte of swap space on SSD anyway".
>>16537667
The worst thing is, it should be easy to see during basic optimisation. I mean, usually you mostly check GPU latency and FPS count during optimisation, sure, but I don't have any idea how you could port a game and not check CPU load even once, if only from curiosity. It's not like it's some elusive bug that only shows itself when the weather on Mars is just right, you should just run the game and open a task manager at the same time. After which, an obvious reaction should be "wait, did I mix up where I should put the bitcoin miner? Oh, it's just busy waiting".
It's not hard to fix either. It's just embarassing to leave in something like that. I can get putting something like that if you're inexperienced, but how do you ship something like that? I have no idea.

>>16479246
https://twitter.com/GustSocialPR/status/829963131203891200

The Finder reprint has been confirmed, and you can pre-order your copy at the GUST shop now. Release date will be the 30th of March.

>>16543203
>Fuck, why is everybody in that thread that is referenced seems to be saying "well, I guess it's just an illusion lol". It's a big fuck-up on their part, not a slight problem that only affects some people.
Because fanboys think companies are their friends and will defend their delivering an unsatisfactory product because if you complain you're entitled.

>>16539207
Apparently the port has major issues, hopefully will be fixed soon with a patch.

It is a good first game though, since it is the start of its own sub-series.

>>16543617
I'd like to add that only those who answered the enquete are eligible for the pre-order bonus.

What's the Atelier Quest that's mentioned in the Twatter?

>>16544529
Some shitty mobile game

>>16543203
You obviously don't know anything and yet you feel the need to make this giant post pretending like you do.

Why?

>>16545112
>people have issues with overheating
>Durante say that it's caused by active waiting
>anon explain why active waiting is shit and speculate about the cause of it.
>"Y-you obliviously don't know shit!"
Are you retarded?

>>16545159
Regardless of his justification for using it, it was obviously a bad idea since it is causing people a shitload of problems. I can't understand why they didn't catch this in testing.

>>16545112
Don't be mean, Anon-kun.

>>16545245
>I can't understand why they didn't catch this in testing.
After everything Gust have done so far, and especially after Firis, it should have been pretty obvious that Gust is full of terrible programmers.

https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/830138690911432704

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Story of my life.

>>16545159
>people have issues with overheating
Maybe they should clean the insides of their computers sometimes or improve their cooling. My old CPU is usually at 100% regardless of what I'm playing and I have no heat problems

Obviously they fucked up when coding but it's not exactly their fault if your shit overheats from being used

>>16547256
>different outift
When can I change outfits?
I just met Fritz before stopping today, am I far off?

>>16547382
Somewhere in the middle through the game.

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>>16547377
They recently updated the game and fixed it. It doesn't eat CPU anymore.

>>16545509
Their QA team also needs some renovation, as it's also their fault that bugs aren't found during the testing phase.

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I made a trait tree to help me keep track of stuff while I play the game (again) in Despair mode.

>>16548335
Nice job.

The bug is fixed, so it's kind of a moot point already, but...
>>16545112
Please tell me if I am wrong somewhere. I would love to know.
>>16547377
It still wastes resources and clashes with what the OS expects of you, which are both inherently bad things.
Also, what about notebooks which have subpar cooling by default?
If people were compiling on their computer and overheated as a result, I would say nothing. Neither would I if they overheated from running a Minecraft server, for example. But a GPU-bound game isn't supposed to act like this.

Did they ever say what inspired the setting for the Ar Tonelico prequels? I've noticed quite a few similarities with Asimov's "The Gods Themselves".

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>>16548873

Cracked patch where?

>>16549434
Dude, just disable the cores at the start of the game, it takes 5 clicks at most.

>>16549434
Any recent generic steam_api or steamclient emulator should work with it. I'm using SSE with no problems other than launcher being trash and not letting me use the resolution I want

>>16548873
The only thing Tsuchiya has said is that the setting was "15 years in development" at the time of Ciel nosurge's release.

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Can girls love other girls?

>>16548335
Thank you for this

Is there a good list of what all the things above the traits do? For example the difference between Fire damage S, M and L on bombs or what the Seal of Friendship I saw on one of the accessories does

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>>16551458
Yes

>>16551490
I haven't played Sophie yet but that info used to be in the game. In the journal/logbook thing.

>>16551549
It only gives you that info once you have an item with one of those effects, not when making something new. Would help to know what something does when making an item to know if I want it or if I want to rearrange to get something else. Also the damage ones don't have any numbers to them if I remember right

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Is Sophie a bad girl?

>>16551684
nah she's just a slut

>>16551688
>just a slut
And Monika isn't? You just know she's riding that /ss/ cock carousel at orphanage along with Pamela

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>no more metal battle themes

>>16551830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHkbYHsnzcE

question about Totori (i know, I'm like 10 years late to the party) but in New Game+ all your stats, items and equipment carries over, right?

I'm at the final boss evil face and I am way underlevelled with like 13 days left in the game. no matter what I do I cannot beat him. So i'm thinking about saying fuck it, and letting the time run out and starting a NG+

>>16551911
All the games sort of blend together after such a long time. But I *think* you only carry over your equipped items and your gold, everything else is reset.

>>16551918
To be fair, most of your stats are going to be coming from your overpowered min/maxed equipment anyway.

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>>16551688
only for Plachta

What are the best traits for weapons and armor in Sophie? Especially early on if that changes anything

>>16553179
I wouldn't worry about min/maxing early on. Just upgrade your equipment when you can, then once you can make the ultimate equipment you do it all at once and make 9999 quality overpowered shit.

For grinding, once you can make the highest tier fire bomb that hits all enemies, slap the one-hit kill trait on it and have loli restore it.

>>16553209
Not really trying to min/max, just looking for some good traits to use to get that small edge. Been using Mutated Material on all my armors since that was real easy to get but not sure what I should go for on my weapons since I read attack isn't actually too useful of a stat

Does anyone have any good guides for the Salburg and Gramand games? Which ones should I start with? I've heard Viorate is a literal masterpiece but I'm not sure if I want to start there. For reference I loved Mana Khemia, thought Arland was fine, really liked Dusk.

So how is Firis compared to Sophie?

>>16551458
Can three-dimensional boys love two-dimensional girls?

>>16552971
Sophie always looks like she's about to rape someone.

>>16552971
I like age_gap as much as anyone, but 500 years difference is just too much.

>>16553727
Viorate is hilarious if you know what the characters are saying. It also has shop mechanic, which Gust really need to bring back.

>>16554988
Sure. They'll never be loved back and I sure hope they like ntr.

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>>16557647
>They'll never be loved back
Don't lie to me.

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>>16558384

even 2d girls are horrific in the ways they can make the boys think they are loved when it's a complete lie. Some even make a living out of it.

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>>16559310
Wrong, Ion is pure and best waifu.

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>mfw I downloaded some fan made fix for the menu slowdowns on Sophie
No more 5 fps when trying to play tetris in the cauldron

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>>16560025
Crashes the game for me.

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Holy shit Flash of darkness is the best boss fight in ateliers ever. Mfw he dispelled his own time cards and used his ultimate move then beat shit out of me. The music is also a huge fanservice, I really missed typical Achiwa's battle themes during the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09mdqfI2-io

>>16560679
>>16560025
Get out of /jp/.

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>>16560728
Idol thread two blocks down.

>>16559461
She never loved you, she just used you so she could get back to her world and then fuck some chad.

Does the Exa Pico games takes place in the same universe as all the Atelier games?

Which Atelier game "plus" versions are actually worth it? Just Rorona?

>>16561132
Totori and Meruru are the only ones not worth it.

>>16561138
Do the dusk game plus versions have as much slowdown as the Arland ones do on Vita? I remember buying Rorona Plus right when it came out but being kind of annoyed with how often that happened, heard Totori had similar problems.

>>16561150
They still have the slowdown, but it never bothered me much in any of them so I can't say how much it'd be a deal breaker for you. Ayesha+ also has a memory leak issue wherein using items will start to get a delay between selecting them and the animation starting which gets longer the longer the game has been running, but it won't come up if you just close and re-open it every 5 hours or so.
The extra content is too significant to pass up anyway. Ayesha PS3 is dub-only, and E&L+ and Shallie+ both get extra story content on top of the extra bonus bosses and outfits.

>>16561165
Can't you just use the undub or something

>>16561273
If you have a modded PS3, then sure. Aside from the Japanese audio, Ayesha+ only has some extra bonus bosses and costumes and no extra story content.

>>16561124
No, they don't. Tsuchiya himself has already denied it years ago.

>>16561030
Don't be an idiot. All the stuff she did in Ciel nosurge and Ar nosurge wasn't a lie.

>>16561138
Even though Meruru's true ending is only available on the Plus version?

>>16561388
If you can read moon it's in the Jap PS3 version.