Elona: Festival of Jure edition

>>16311295
I'll give Jure a big, nice squeeze before sleeping tonight. And I'm not talking about her daki.

>>16311738
Bullying is wrong anon

>>16311833
It's not bullying, it's tender loving.

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Jure is best god. Think about it, of the others are so great why do none of them have a festival in their honor?

>>16311953
People who workship Yacatect party everyday at the casino

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>>16311953
>needing a festival
Every day is wizard day

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>>16311959
You mean as they lose everything on the vague chance Yacatect will let them hit it big? Yeah, that sounds like a great time.

>>16312020
I'd consider that more a job than an enjoyable time, but different strokes for different folks.

All fun and games aside, is there any particular reason I can't download images from danbooru on my phone?

I wind up storing all my random internet finds (including elona) on it but choosing to save images on danbooru just tries to initialize the download forever.

HOW KEEP MY POTENTIALS AT 100????

>>16312096
skills ? train platinum
spells ? sleep
attributes ? eat weed everyday

how many bottles of red gold I gotta give Pael's mom before she stops begging me to kill her after she turns into a dinosaur?

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How the fuck can I actually see my cargo limit before buying too much shit?

>>16312096
Picnic lunches all day

So let me get this straight. The vindale forest is what causes ether wind, which protects the world from the infestation of Meshera. Saimore comes in and convinces everyone to burn down the forest, even though he secretly knows about Meshera. The whole point of you spelunking in Lesimas was to stop Saimore from getting his hands on the treasure and using it to do exactly what he did anyway (convince everyone to destroy the forest), so it was a pointless quest.

The forest gets burned down, everyone is sad, diseases and corruption start to spread, and 3 years later you show back up, this time to conquer south tyris. Saimore now acts like he's full of regret. What's this guy's problem? What was the point of fucking everyone over in the first place? Why are the characters now acting like he's done nothing wrong?

>>16312152
Check your inventory screen, there should be an indicator there for your cart capacity and your backpack capacity.

You need to be able to go to South Tyris to see the Festival, right? Guess I'm out of luck, then.

>>16312279
it's in noyel

>>16312286
Oh, okay. Cool.

What should I do there, though? I don't know anything about it.

>>16312466
Kill bards , steal from children , prostitute to high level shoppers that appear only for this event. And dont forget to get free a jure's dakimura by converting to her religion

>>16312473
What if I preach about Mani? Will people get pissed at me?

Also, I'm having a bit of an issue with the Thieves Guild. Whenever I go in, an alarm sounds and everyone goes hostile on me. I've alraedy completed the quest to join previously, but the NPC gives me the quest again like I never completed it. Is this a bug of some sort?

>>16312501
>I've alraedy completed the quest to join previously, but the NPC gives me the quest again like I never completed it. Is this a bug of some sort?

If you change guild, you need to do the recruitment quest to do stuff with the guild again. Even if you've done the quest before.

>>16312501
Can only be a part of one guild at a time. If you leave and join another guild you will need to repeat the joining quest again for the guild you left if you want to rejoin it.

I just lost my character due to a sudden power loss and the last backup I made was before went deep on the grind.

Is this what I get for worshipping all the gods?

>>16312522
Oh. Looks like I lost ten levels, all my wonder scrolls, a shit load of herbs and stats and the fourth god rewards.

Remember kids. Always backup your game.

Should I get museum or a shop first for money making?

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>>16312134
https://youtu.be/gBMkbAM1qiA?t=160

>>16312178
Something about putting danger in everybody's face so they start working together on a common goal and hopefully bring back something like the Rehmido civilization of old

tell me if cooking isn't the most valuable skill in the GAEM

>>16312134
5+

>>16312617
It isn't
That goes to Gardening
>more herbs, more magic stuff for your shop, more gems for your pet's pleasure

>>16312771
Gardening is pretty dumb. You can even get wishes from it.

>>16312786
Plant magic seeds, harvest, put everything in a magic shop, hope you get rod of wishing.

I remember that Kai guy saying something like that.

>>16312549
Are you doing enough harvest time quests to keep a farm growing magic seeds or clearing dungeons fast enough to keep a magic shop stocked? I am doing this and getting about 5-8k gold per day as long as it is stocked, and rank is still climbing. I bought a rod of domination and kidnapped a thieves' guild member to run the place.
>>16312793
Yes

Do you have a bunch of figurines saved up? <Named> NPC figures make the most money, so try to have a few of those in addition to a pile of normal monster ones before your start your museum. Though <named>, random dungeon bosses only count as regular monsters. You can use dueling gloves or rod of summon monsters to take out named NPCs in towns to avoid karma loss if -2 is a problem for you, just be careful what you summon.

The ROI on the shop I think is better but it's a bigger capital investment and requires actual work to keep it running.

>>16312793
There is that and you can get straight ou a rod of wishing from it.

Haven't had that luck so far. Got a few scrolls of attribute and flying by selling some oracle scrolls but no books or rods of wishing from selling all the books across Irva.

>>16312809
do you only sell oracle scroll ?

have you found good scrolls from selling shitty ones ?

>>16312871
Well, at the start I was only selling my huge load of them, which got me the attribute ones. After I started throwing every type of scroll I've seen to have been getting enchanting weapon and more oracles for most of the time.

I'll probably go back to selling only oracles to see if I get anything again.

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>>16312871
I get scrolls much faster than I use them, I also have a reason to make them now. I don't have a feels good text art but if I did I'd include it in this post.

>>16312771
This. Gardening is ridiculous in elona+.

It's the tenth month and I prayed at my god's altar at the truce grounds and he didn't show up and give me the ultimate gift. What am I doing wrong?

>>16313053
oh, I'm being a retard, November is the 11th month duh

Did some testing on the shop.

Max value you can get for each item is around 190k (that's with 2000 negociation).
Around 50k at 150 neg and 100k at 500 neg.

You get your negociation up x10 and you get max value x4, sounds fair.

Also cost to train the shopkeeper is 65k at 150 neg (60 cha) and around 800k when you are near 2k neg.

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Alright Astar, welcome to the Kai household. After looking over various innkeeper applications it seems you're the best fit. It seems you already come with negotiation skills and a decent charisma score. A common trait with you imps and demons it seems. I believe that your skills in negotiation and overall charisma will grow in the time you spend as my innkeeper.

I only have two concerns. One, I understand you succubus have certain nutritional requirements. Please take care of yourself but please do not mix business and pleasure to the point where it gets in the way of your duties. Also, I need to check in with the lawyers at the Palmia embassy. It says here your age is 10 in your application. You insist you're old enough but I don't know what that is in human years. I hope I'm not violating any child labor laws. At any rate, I welcome you aboard and look forward to working with you.

>>16310550
Other anon is correct, race/class is Eulderna Predator. I renamed the class at character generation to The Breaker for a variety of reasons. One being that I saw myself shattering bones, rupturing organs, and causing internal bleeding with my martial arts skill. You know, all that good fun in martial arts films and movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkM4ozMzD4

Predator class suits me fine and I've never changed my class. While not as good as what a warmage can achieve, I'm content with my 92% cast chance at medium armor. The additional starting speed from Predator class combined with kokou helped me at the beginning of the game and the increased crit chance from the class helps out my martial arts damage. Only concern at the time was maybe the slight increased INI score due to starting out with additional speed but I found out that it wasn't really anything to worry about. Haven't really had problems collecting AP and I've collected about 86k in AP so far.

>>16312871
Not really sure the perceived quality of stuff you sell really matters. I tend to buy everything the magic vendors sell(potions, scrolls, spellbooks) regardless of what it is and if it's not anything I need it goes all into the shop. I've managed to get spellbooks of wish and other stuff. Recently I've sold only beer in my inn and managed to get a speed upper. Considering the value of a speed upper compared to beer I find it interesting that I got such a good trade up.

Spellbooks of wish and rods of wish are rare finds in the shop but they do happen. My first attempt at collecting these spellbooks/rods of wish come from visiting all the invested magic vendors on all three continents and checking out my farms. As a consolation prize if I don't find said items, I just buy out all the vendors inventories and put them in my shop for a second chance at getting a spellbook of wish or other goodies. I do the same thing for rods of wish where I visit goods vendors and collect them from my magic seed farms. If I don't get what I just buy out and dump everything in the shop for a second chance. Stores restock in about 3 days and by making my rounds and recycling my goods I up my chances of getting good stuff.

Currently I'm wondering if shop level is actually helping me get more spellbooks of wish. All of my magic vendors have shop levels in the thousands. My magic vendors in my palace, 8 of them, have the highest shop level in all the land. Shop level around 20k. I've gained quite a few from my own home so I'm wondering if it's just because there is 8 there or if them having a shop level higher than the rest of the world is playing a part. Regardless, as long as they keep supplying me with spellbooks of wish they are totally deserving of having enough gold in their inventories to buy themselves a palace or two.

>>16312549
Depends on what you do, I guess. If you have a lot of cards/statues in reserve, probably a museum. Shop is better at bringing money when paid attention to and/or specialized(specifically I would go for equipment at first), but remember that it's 5k per month at rank 100. Any time you're doing anything that isn't getting equipment is money, it's technically money out of your pocket. Not that it's really that big of a deal, 5k/month isn't much. I probably average 50k a month in net income from my shops monthly at level 35 just by throwing whatever gear I stumble upon questing or dungeon spelunking at it that I don't want. I do have some decently trained shopkeeps by now, though. You might get a little bit less starting out and especially if you use a shopkeep with bad negotiation/charisma.

>>16312793
I, personally, usually just draw charges from whatever rods(most)or spellbooks I don't want and throw them into spellbooks with spells I want. More useful that way.

Also, I bought a necklace with ##### on chance to crit hit. How good is that? It was pretty cheap, only like 1.5k. I haven't used one with this kind of stat boost yet, so I don't know how big the boost to crit will be.

I just set up my first shop but i don't really know how work it properly any tips?

>>16313583
Reading the red book on the ground is usually a good first step. If you need more help you can check out the wiki

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Shop

If you have a specific question feel free to ask here.

>>16313583
You need a shopkeeper first of all. Check the wiki's article on shops for a list of good shopkeeps and how to obtain them. Then use the register to assign your shopkeep(have him in your party first). Register also has expansion and specialization options.

After that you just drop all the items you want to sell in your shop and let the shopkeep do his thing. Return from time to time to drop any new items you don't want, collect money from the safe and drop whatever didn't sell in the safe back into the shop again(they'll sell eventually even if they don't the first time). You can specialize your shop in a certain type of goods if you wish, it will net you much greater profit but will also limit your options for what you can sell at that shop. I would also upgrade your shop a few times so it can hold more than 10 items, but I don't feel you need much of it at least at the start. I've probably never had more than 30 items on the floor at any one time, as they all sell fairly quickly.

Anybody know why there's no Festival for me? I headed to Noyel but there's no sign of it, the same Noyel as always. Nothing there that the wiki page says should be.

>>16313613
Should exist if you're playing Elona+ and come to Noyel in December. Lasts for the month. Playing 1.64 and seems to work for me.

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>>16313722
IDK, for whatever reason it isn't, in 1.62+ Custom. Pic related, no stalls.

>>16313735
Wait two more months, Anon.

how do i assign custom keys for certain actions?
for example i want to press 2 to play the piano

>>16313745
Go to the piano in your inventory and press 2

>>16313744
Two more months? You're saying it'll occur in February(or march?)for me? Why would it be then for me, and not in December like everyone else?

>>16313748
suki anon-chan
*3*

>>16313735
Doesn't the date in the top left corner of that picture say year: 519 month: 10 day: 17? I wouldn't expect the festival to take place in October(10). Or is this picture just illustrating what it looks like in December?

>>16313760
Oh no no no no Anon.
It's december ingame date, look at the top left. It's 10/17 for you and the festival only beings 12/01.

>>16313583
I broke into the thieves' guild and dominated a guild member to be a shopkeeper, he's been doing ok for me. The guild leader will ram through walls directly at you as soon as you enter without being a member. I have a farm growing rods to sell, but this isn't nearly enough to keep it stocked. Kai mentioned using farmed rods for charges for spellbooks, but I don't do much magic beyond identify. Maybe if I ever get casting up to the point I can cast spells reliably they will be better than potions and rods. For some reason potions don't sell in a magic shop.

I'm thinking of turning it back to a general store or a gear shop and dumping all the trash I find dungeon diving.

Oh, is there a kind of shop where I can sell all these deeds of heirship? I'm a first gen character so they're worthless to me.

>>16313594
Thats a given, thanks for the link.
>>16313613
>>16313881
How do i specialize ? simply i put items of a single type?

>>16313897
Go to the register in your shop and select "Change shop type". Then you just choose one and sell your stuff.

>>16313884
You can sell all kinds of deeds on a magic shop.

>>16313906
There is only
>Assing a shopkeeper
>Extend
>Desing
>Change door type
>Change map type

why my little girl does poor damage with Crystal Spear?

does around 13 damage to a child boar!

>>16313774
Oh. I thought it used your computer's clock or something for IRL time. kek

Allright then, that makes a lot more sense. I read the OP thinking it was some kind of IRL Christmas event, or something.

>>16313881
The rods to charge other things wasn't my idea but anon's idea is clever. I don't have spell stock problems anymore with Kai and I'm not a magic device user with this character so I just dump most of the rods I find into my magic store. I'll probably open up a blacksmith shop too. I could use a way to generate living weapons that I can't get from crafting. Also want the specialized shop for the extra gold.

>>16313925
Spell damage for a pet is keyed to the pet's casting skill. If it's not that great then the damage won't be good. Also you need to make sure you give a casting pet gear that enhances its spells since they also benefit from the spell damage multiplier. Max spell damage multiplier is 2x.

how do i train ridding? how many levels of riding skill i need to use kaneda bike propertly?

>>16314132
>magic device user
Meant to say dedicated magic device user. I have enough in the skill to use a rod of wishing and I do consume potions but it's not something I use a lot like someone who relies on them for damage. Not to knock magic device users though. They can be pretty strong with the quick use ability and dupli cane really paved the way to allowing one to play as an Artificer.

>>16314132

now my little girl do 42 damage with casting skill, thanks a lot!

>>16314160
>They can be pretty strong with the quick use ability and dupli cane really paved the way to allowing one to play as an Artificer.
Dupli-cane is a trap, honestly. The cumulative stamina cost is ungodly unless you're massively overleveled for the dungeon, so you categorically cannot handle awakened dungeons without spending actual charges. Even normal dungeons are going to cost charges because a sudden mob situation will overtax your stamina.
Dupli-cane is nice, sure, but it leads to understocking on your carried rods and that's a very easy way to get yourself tired, out of rods, and surrounded.

>>16314219
I for some reason have never had stamina problems like a lot of people report so I must admit I'm probably the weird one here. It's due to this that I never really cared much for staying too long with Kumiromi as well. I usually get the vampiric ability feat and by sucking the blood of my enemies I recover enough stamina to just keep going. My previous character actually had magic device at a pretty good level ,1200 or so, and I remember also just sandbagging an enemy and using it as a stamina battery to use blood suck on.

My only real complaint about dupli-cane is that it nerfs your damage a bit but since you can toggle it that's not too bad. If I had to cut loose I'd toggle it off. Could always just restore burnt out rods by crafting new rods through carpentry or using draw and refill. I'm just happy dupli cane came around for at least training purposes since it made the actual cost of training the skill not too bad.

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I'd like all your opinions. When it comes to that point should I evolve my fox brother to fire fox brother, or nine tailed fox brother?

Megid Flame seems like a really nice ability on the fire fox brother for elemental scar, but the wiki says that his stamina will be super drained by it. But he also gets resistance to fire naturally. +20 life +20 speed

9 tails gets no special abilities or resistance, but gains +30 life +20 speed +25 magic

>>16314414
Megid Flame is really fucking good.
On the other hand, a base life of 50 sucks pretty hard, so that extra 20% from 9 tails is really useful.

Personally, I'd make my decision based on how low his HP tends to get and if I'd benefit from him Element Scarring things.

>>16314414
Megid Flame is interesting because it's an ability I don't think the player can get hence can't teach to a pet using Custom. So it has value. Speed and magic are nice but you could get them through other means. So what's left is life. You can boost life but it's one of the hardest things to do so imo that's what it boils down to. An evolution with extra life vs evolution with Megid Flame. The wiki makes mention that it drains its stamina but my question is if that's true for a well trained pet?

Stamina is calculated using Will and Constitution so if a pet has those attributes at a high value will the pet have enough stamina then to not be so drained? I'm willing to take that risk to find out so I cast my vote for that evolution however I completely understand people picking the other evolution. It's a safe bet with decent upgrades.

>>16314414
i went with 9tails just for the +10 life extra life
just because foxbrother is so easy to gib

if you want megid flame, get a child fire dragon

>>16314414
I'm leaning towards making mine ninetails for the extra base health, but then, I've already given him three hero cheese, so he'd basically be at the same place if I just make him fire foxbrother in terms of base health.

Granted, it may just come down to whichever heart I get first.

Does anybody own a Palace here? How does it look like? How big is it? Is it worth getting over the small castle?
I'm still stuck using a shack, but I guess that'll do for now.

>>16315322
Can click the pictures under house details to see what each kind of home looks like. Also gives information on area. Palace allows for the most servants.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Home

>>16315345

Aha, I never looked on that page. Thanks, anon. You're a kind soul.

>>16315322
personally i feel its a little too much
the space is kinda redundant since you can simply just buy upstairs/downstairs for more slots

maybe if youre that kind of person who likes to customize your base

>>16315463
You can also get more servants which is pretty nice.

>>16315476
i already put money on the merchants in palmia

and the extra walking space is bugging me a little

>>16313233
Inn?
I don't remember being a "inn" deed

>>16315568
Fuck my grammar
I don't remember a "inn" deed being sold anywhere or spoken of in the wiki

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>get my hands on something else than the rogue wizard
>neat a lizard mage
>looks pretty cool
>go into combat with it after having gene engineered my rogue wizard into the lizard
>he doesn't know any spells

Fuck my existence.

>>16314459
>>16314531
>>16314546
>>16315082

These are all good points. I guess I'll go with fire fox brother. I have already been funneling hero cheese into my fox brother to deal with his squishiness, I just realized megid flame will ve a godsend since I am only using magic device instead of magic, and another heart seems like it might be easier to get than a magic heart.

>>16315594
Inn is a type of shop in which you can sell potions and containers.

>>16315811
naw
once you void dive they're all pretty common

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How the fuck do you keep up with your stores? I have 3 shops and they all sell out in 2 days and I haven't even gotten to the next place to actually get stuff to sell in them.

>>16315985
You need to be fast in the restock business. Just buy the whole continent and move to the south.

>>16316008
are you saying I can buy shit from vendors and resell for a profit?

>>16317040
It requires a very high negotiation skill on your shopkeeper (over 200) and certain types of specialty shop.

But yes, you can resell at profit at a point in the game where money really doesn't matter anymore.

i can't find any numbers on the attribute "it decrease physical damage you take"

is it flat reduce or % ?
is it a chance to reduce dmg ?
does it cap ? if so how much do you need to reach the cap ?

How would one go about setting up pets to inherit? Is it even possible to stuff your own pets back into monster balls to then stuff into the heir trunk?

This is talking about pets you've actually had adventuring with you for a while, not fresh catches, mind. Say, your little girl who you've evolved into a Valkyrie for example.

>>16317247
look for soul spindle on the wiki

it will reset your pet to level 1 no stats though

>>16317264
Wiki says level 10 , all skills to 25 if they were superior and all stats to 50 but no limit to hp and mp. It doesnt say anything about spells though , could it be you can transfer a mage pet will all the spells ?

Does anyone know what a cbocchi is supposed to be? Is this a totally made up vegetable or something real that was horrible transliterated?

I'm pretty sure lecho is a /v4/ dish of some kind.

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>>16318140
cbocchi sounds very close to kabocha
probably kabocha squash

melon is also listed under veg
so its very likely that its bitter melon instead of a canteloupe

>>16318192
muskmelon is another name for cantaloupe

is there a way to disable equipment showing on your character? I recently started using a custom pc-sprite but the armor showing up on it doesn't look good

How the fuck do I deal with these invisible potion throwing fuckers? I have a terrible habit of running into them on the last damn floor of a dungeon, usually after I've already beaten the boss. I can't really deal with 100 damage/turn, especially when I can't even hit them.

What's this little blessing I get when I pray sometimes? It looks like it heals me as well. How much is that heal worth, and can I use it when I'm in trouble to save my ass? What are the requirements for it to occur, also? Tried praying again right after and it said my God was indifferent to me.

>>16318500
buy a sages helm at the workshop, 50 medals
it'll last you ages

>>16318500
>>16319035

If you don't have the medals yet, wall yourself up and toss dirty water around until they step on it.

Scrolls or spells of detect objects also show them

>>16318402
Use a dresser. There should be one in the kings room in Palmia for you to use.

>>16318579
Holy Veil. It's a buff that protects you from hexes. The heal is very powerful and yes it can save you. Prayer can be a very powerful thing but it lowers your favor by 15% when you do it. Your god is indifferent to you because you lack the amount of favor needed for them to care about healing and buffing you. To get back in your god's good graces and raise favor with them you need to offer things at their altar that they like.

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what did my pet did to get all these buffs?

eating strange thing on the floor are that good?

>>16319559
Eating certain raw equipment can boost the growth of attributes.

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Huh, what's this? It's alive? That's a first. What's this do, exactly?

>>16320040
It can level up as you kill stuff with it.
Once it levels up you can use it with "t" and choose a level up option.
Don't choose the enchantment levels, you can get them at a blacksmith.

>>16320044
How good can it get? What kind of upgrade options are there for it, and how long does it take to level? Is there a max level? 4d3 is kinda weak, but if it can get good enough, it might be worth the effort.

>>16320059
Resistances, stats, magic damage...
Or just using the wiki
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Living_weapon

my pet was pregnant and then the alien baby killed my maid

she's gonna revive, right? Right?

>>16320229
Maybe

I am level 35 and have yet to join a guild. Are the attribute trainers the most valuable thing they offer or is it the skills? I'm not a caster so magic guild library doesn't seem very useful to me, none of the passive benefits do.

Does quartermaster 2 affect quality of goods from everything or just what I get in my salary chest?

>>16320532

most for the month attribute, skills you can get with teleportation + incognito

the fighters' guild have a cool sword, thief's guild sells lockpicks, mage's guild sells books.

Strange, a while ago <Whom dwell in Vanity> died due to a cursed item, yet, I've yet to see him respawn. Did they change how <NPC>s work, and they don't just respawn normally in the latest versions of elona plus?

Its going to become difficult to fill out my museum with rare figurines if I can't just kill certain <NPC>s to get their collectables before actually doing their quests. Will I need to fetch a book of resurrection or something?

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Is there any hard formula for calculating damage or buff/debuff effectiveness with rods? Do I just take the spell formulas and substitute magic device or something?

Also, does duplicane really nerf damage on rods? I haven't noticed it if it does, but if so then how much damage does it knock off?

>>16321010
Try doing performance quest. I got him to spawn in palmia quest

found a way to trade gold for plat, around 3k per

not sure if thats good yet

>>16320596
Only salary chest

>>16322403

good explanation though

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>>16321087
No idea what the actual damage formula looks like. It's true dupli nerfs damage. See picture.

>>16322403
Go on. 3k gold is nothing later on.

>>16322448
thieves guild quest gives 3 plat per and requierment caps at 60k

take a stack of expensive stuff like potion of potential trade it to an adventurer and steal it back
blessed potions of potential sell at 20k
sell 3 give the quest back, take the next, repeat

>>16322507

im not skeptic because of the price in gold but rather the time it takes, the part of risk and the fact that you have to be in the thieves guild. sometimes adventurers reset their inventory at random and if they do when they have your stack of potions you lose big.
there is another nice thing about this tho, if you trade with an archer type they sometime get nice artifacts and sox

>>16322531
I see. Sounds like an interesting trick. Might be useful early on in the game for plat but not so much later on due to challenge and panic job board quests. Getting sox from that trick is good though. Useful for artifact fusion.

I can't keep up with inventory of my specialized shop. If I change the type back to general does the level reset?

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>want to join the thieves' guild
>too ocd about paying taxes that physically can't without becoming an emotional wreck

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>>16322507
Huh. That is a decent difference in damage. I guess I never noticed since I mainly use the rods on things with obvious elemental weaknesses and my numbers are nowhere near that big.

Off topic, but has anyone here know if elona shooter is worth playing?

>>16322853
I found Elona Shooter nice to play once in awhile. Walked away with a deeper appreciation of younger sisters. They are so noble as to sacrifice their very lives for you.

>>16322829
It's not like your shop is going to explode if you don't have anything in it. You'll just get messages that nothing is sold because you don't have anything in it. That's it and it's easy to ignore the message.

Does the number of skills a pet has affect the cost of the pet buying potential? I have an android I want to gene performer into using a public performer, but this also gives her control magic which she doesn't need. Will this useless skill soak up gold she could spend on more useful skills?

>>16322872
I'm out of rods and scrolls, but have a backlog of other junk. Is there any penalty beyond to gold cost to switching shop types?

>>16323009
For the shop none that I can think of. The amount a pet spends on their trainer has nothing to do with the amount of skills it has learned. INI score and charisma score seem to affect overall trainer costs. A high INI score with a low charisma score will lead to a pet needing more gold to visit its trainer.

do you guys know any similar games to Elona?
is this a one of a kind masterpieceofshit?
iwant to play elin

>>16323063
No. Elona is pretty unique. Might check out roguelikes but none feel like Elona. You'll be a skeletal husk at your computer before Elin comes out. I just hope Elin is not a casualized piece of shit game. Only one town in Elin? Town better be the best fucking town ever. Probably stay with Elona if Elin turns out shit. It's not like I'll ever run out of grind with Elona. Also one anon said you can only have a handful of skills in Elin. Wtf.

>>16323063
Haven't seen a game as quirky as Elona that you can sink hundreds of hours into and become so incredibly strong compared to what you were in the beginning or get absolutely nowhere if you don't know what you're doing. Game doesn't treat you like you're stupid and can be challenging. Definitely one of my favorite games I've played.

What the hell is waste art classified as? Does it sell in a general shop?

>>16322841
Its unreal how hard it is to just eat the karma loss.

anybody know where you can find custom npc files? I've got a few from copies of older versions of elona+ before that moongate server went down but I'm still looking for more.

>>16323945
Mods pastebin

has the elona forum been archived or transfered somewhere ?

>>16322531
Is there an expensive item that NPCs will accept with shift+G? If so, you could try doing it to a prostitute or some other weak Derphy citizen so you don't need to tempt fate with adventurers.

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Some sick fuck got it on with the fire giant in Noyel. He then proceeded to get pissed off and burn everything nearby. So much for chains.

>>16323499

It's pretty much just misc. item, and it sells in a general store - yes. It actually sells for a fuckton.

If i increase the potential of Faith will the blessing dream give me exp faster or it's a set amount ?

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>crafting session
>go to sell off the shit that i crafted
>the customer's faces when they walk in and it's just a massive sale on panties of all shapes and kinds
>cursed and blessed
>gryphon to raw
>just panties everywhere

Is there any point in doing the Arena? It keeps saying there's rewards for every 5 and 15 or whatever winstreak, but I've yet to receive anything.

>>16323731

Nah, it's not that for me. I'm just anal about doing stuff a certain way. When I get money each month, I pay my bills IRL pretty much within the next 12 minutes or I'm gonna have an anxiety attack.

Being a sperglord with OCD isn't fun.

How long does it take a vendor to to refresh their inventory? I've only got a few days of the festival left, and I hadn't realized I'd needed both an up and downstairs in order to make another floor accessible without getting stuck. On going back, the downstairs disappeared from the vendor.

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Actually, I stand corrected. The food shop that I investigated into selling curries and such - the other anon with the bug is entirely correct. It won't sell the carrot stuff or the melon stuff for whatever reason.

>>16325001
I wonder if it sells in any other shop.

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I dont get how you people are able to empty your shop. My shopkeeper just cant keep up with all the stuff i give him , i'm already at 210 items expansion. I've been stuck at Yowyn for the past month since all my inventory is food for him

>>16325419

>160+ speed
>at level 14

fucking how

>>16325477
That was actually bugged or something , my official speed is 187. The answer is obvious though if you look at my stats, i'm a cute fairy

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Found my first living weapon today. It's a fucking ballista with 36.0s.

Should I continue my path as a Mahou Shoujo or just go full siege cannon modo?

>>16326293
that's shit , ignore and move on

>>16325419
What is your shopkeeper? Mine would sell all of that in 2-3 days

I have a question. I'm playing with a gamepad and the "z menu" is only letting my analog stick go in 4 directions. Is there any way to fix this?

>>16326293
Not a bad living weapon. Could go both. If you're still early in the game you can pick up the skills to use that ballista well and train it to be combat ready without too much difficulty. Only problem with crossbows is the lack of precious weapon selection if for some reason you don't want to use that living weapon. The weight of the ballista might also interfere with your casting if you don't use flying scrolls on it.

>>16326624
>"z menu"
I forgot this was even a thing. Guess it exists to help the noobs out but it's so much less clunky and you'll work faster if you just memorize the hotkeys to do stuff and stick with the keyboard.

>>16326665
I was asking because my laptop's keyboard is broken and I'm using a wireless one without a numpad. I figured it would be easier with a gamepad and it worked with prior versions of the game

>>16326644
I'm currently farming flying scroll to make my equipment weight within medium range.

Just used adamantine material kit to increase the damage and hit rate of this weapon.

What is a good upgrade though? Not really familiar with living weapon. I'm thinking of giving a high magic resistance and attack, and maybe some massive damage against dragon/god.

>>16326939
Upgrades you want should be good. Best way to get the most of a living weapon is to do artifact fusion first then to level it but if you don't have access to that and just want to level it you can't go wrong with what you're doing.

Do trade vendors scale with anything? Time? Level? I see no option to invest. I can only sell like 3 Christmas Trees in Port Kapul before the trader is out of gold.

>>16327116
they level when you buy and sell stuff to them

buy their entire stock and resell it to them right back to level them

>>16326939
>>16326989
By the way, if you level a living weapon too much, you won't be able to use artifact fusion on it later because it will be over the "point enchantment" limit
However, leveling a living weapon after you reach this limit by artifact fusion first won't be affected by this.

Basically

Artifact Fusion First > You can still level it later too and get double the enchantments
Leveling Living Weapon First > You won't be able to put as many fusion enchantments on it, if any at all

Am i forced to pickpocket the instruments off from bards if i want stradivarius to spawn or i'm fine regardles ? Gwen artifact spawned normally after a few kills and it's already 2 times i die to guards because i tryied to steal from bards.

>>16326673
Adding on to this, I can't go diagonal on the gamepad at all. I'm completely in the dark here

>>16324718
You do. You get a 100 yen coin or a 500 yen coin. It's listed under materials. You can use the coins on treasure machines.

i've got a good stack of alchemy rods, is there still a point in using them anymore or am i better off selling them ?


>>16327297
they drop a random item on death, if they drop their instrument they have chance to respawn with stradivarius.

>>16327297
they respawn with the same instrument if they die holding one, so you have to pickpocket or burn/freeze it so they get a new one

What's the biggest meaniest thing i can get with a monster ball , that could make the life for an incarnated character easy as a pie ?

>>16327893
It's rather small in size but a quickling archer. It has like 1000 speed. Just give them a ranged weapon since they have almost no hp.

The google doc spreadsheet on trade route goods is nowhere near accurate, is there up to date info on trade anywhere?

>>16327893
>>16327935
That's a lvl17 ball, you could just but a rod of domination. A quickling archer will level up like a motherfucker so make sure you do all your gene engineering as soon as you catch him.

>>16327893
>>16327935
>>16328163
Quicklings sure will make North Tyris easy but boy are they fucking shit once you get to South Tyris. One of the worst pets in the game.

I can't keep my magic shop selling even if I spend 100% of my game time doing harvest time quests and drinking coffee. I got some rods of dominate out of it so I'm happy. I turned it into a food shop, since I can produce that indefinitely. Will food rot on the tables? Can I drop a freezer in there and sell out of that?

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>>16328194
Sounds like the same trap bells lead you into.

Make you feel invincible then BOOM! They suddenly go from gods of destruction to weaklings and you likely are underpowered as well since you let them do your dirty work.

>>16328414
Food doesn't rot while in the shop.

What should I use my AP on? Which is the priority?

Should I just boost speed or get the charge attack?

>>16329271
Priority is Barrier if you don't heavily use MP, then any spacts you need right now, then speed. Once speed is capped (500 in south tyris, 800 in lost irva) you pick up whatever spacts and feats you want and start spiking bonus points.
A few builds want bonus points more than speed.

>>16329383
So I shouldn't get barrier if I'm a magic user?

>>16329604
Depends on how low your MP tends to go. If you like to cast hard and your MP frequently goes under 1/3rd then Barrier won't do much for you. If you rest after each fight and keep yourself topped off then Barrier is great.

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>it is made of bone
>it is fireproof
>it is precious
>it modifies dv by 5 and pv by 32
>it grants you resistance to nerve ###
>it grants you resistance to nether
>it increases your learning by 5
>it prevents aliens from entering your body
>it sucks the blood of it's wielder
>it protects you from mutation
>except when it doesn't
>fuck you

>>16329653
Not a bug actually. It's been a chance at preventing mutation for a very long time. Could of been labeled better but it isn't a lie either.

>>16329665
Any way to get that chance up to 100% other than drinking coffee laced with crack until my brain turns to mush?

>>16329748
nope. just don't drink from the wells and keep a couple of potions of evolution at hand. the exorcist feat also helps.

some thoughts on the ultra-lategame, after the monsters you fight have capped out on stats:

1. mages are the best.
2. any 'hard' monster that's not a boss can be one-shot-neutralized, either with Slow, Silence or Rod of Change / thrown Potion of Mutation.
3. Mist of Darkness + combat buffs makes you tanky.
4. Meteor can do so much damage that it used to overflow the integer size limit. Magic resistance + fire resistance keeps it in check, but the latter can be removed with Nightmare.
5. Doing lvl 2000+ awakened dungeons? Every single monster on the level is aggroing you? Just want the nefia tear? Cast Magic Map, then Teleport around until you get near the stairs. Or clear the floor with Meteor.
6. Slow is the singular most powerful 1v1 spell. If you max out base speed you should have 3000+ speed buffed, so with Slow active on a boss (takes several tries) you'll be taking 3 actions for every 1 the boss takes. It's difficult to lose.

>>16328431
The AP system killed bell and some other high speed, non end game pet for me.

I wish that I had a way to grind AP for my pro-jet android waifu but I can't, as I just reached South Tyris.

>>16329958
I assume Lulwy is the best god for late game due to the percentage speed boost?

>>16330079
I use Itzpalt, personally, because the mana regain ability is just so handy to have. Without it you'll have to either prepare huge numbers of rods of mana or sleep lots.

>>16329653

80% resistance, not full prevention.

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>>16327893

If playing 1.63 or later, Konigs Katz are a new behicle-type monster, a combination of speed (slightly slower than a Gold Bell) and cMetal backed by a beefy base 120 hp and 346 constitution for what is probably the most durable non-boss enemy in the game, capable of reliably tanking the Gods (though without help they'll eventually go down from the difference in DP, except possibly against Yacatect if they're lucky with a Sniper Rifle). Their special ability isn't anything great, being SE against other cMetals like bells and themselves, but they're a great candidate for the GAU Gatling and other end game firearms.

Of course, this is for end-game players who can stick around to part 3 of the main game: they're roughly as dangerous as Frisia, and will effortlessly destroy ill-prepared players.

A second option if you're on 1.62 is Yerleswood Type M, a mass-produced version of Yerleswood and Yerleswood Neo which has only a fraction of their strength but is a good balance of firepower and durability, kind of like a poor man's Garziem. Though a rare encounter on their own, they have a chance to spawn in packs in high-level dungeons. Their routine is a combination of shadow-stepping and firing their gun; I've gotten good results equipping mine with a sniper rifle.

Yerles conbat planes are vastly more attainable than the above two being a level 50 encounter, and require some investment to make workable (control magic or swap their grenade with a gun), but will make short-work of North Tyris on their own and scale well enough further along when you evolve them.

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i just found my first big dady , do i stand any chance like this ? Dv / Pv values are 200 / 100
Since i've quite a bit of money i dont want to go in unprepared

>>16330965
you will get one shot with 100 hp

>>16331008
Does he get a chance to hit me with 200 dodge and 200 speed ?

>>16330965

if you have a healer and a good tank pet, maybe

otherwise, one hit kill for sure

>>16331011
big daddy has shotgun which increase crit chance
crit can only be dodged with greater evasion

>>16331018
Thanks for the tip , i guess i will leave him alone for now

what do i need to know in terms of knowledge to start playing this game?
i wann play!

>>16331093
I'm no expert, but having gotten semi comfortable with the game and listening to advice here, the general consensus is you make a throw away character to die and make stupid mistakes with while checking the wiki for things you don't understand or asking questions here as they come up.

Or, if you don't think it's cheating, you can do like I did and save scum when you make REALLY dumb mistakes at the first couple of levels until you get into the swing of the game.

Others here might have better advice, but that is my 2 cents.

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>>16329958
I can't speak for awakened dungeons as I haven't leveled my dungeons past the 600 mark due to reward caps. So my awakened dungeons are around that level.

I will speak of the void though as that's where my battleground is. I used an insight lens on a wyvern I found down there. They naturally have very good fire resist and not so great everything else. I think I may have confirmed my fears that the void is pushing resists beyond the normal resist tracking system with hashtags/pound signs. This particular wyvern shows that it has "superb" resist in everything except magic which is at "normal". Well after putting element scar on the wyvern I found that the normally reported resist doesn't really account for its true resist. Apparently the wyvern has resists well beyond superb#####. Element scar did indeed drop its resists as I was doing more damage with fire related spells though. I'm still wondering if resists for monsters down here even cap out eventually or if they'll just keep getting stronger.

Having said that, I don't see a lv2000 meteor doing more than 1.3 million damage to normal enemies with what seems to be the baseline resists here in the void. Resists are a bit shifted down here depending on what the monster's original resists were. So if a very fire resistant monster showed up down here he'd be even more fire resistant than his peers. Against enemies with exceptional fire resist the damage can sink all the way down to the 600k mark I think.

Meanwhile, my martial arts is doing around 2.5 million with 6 attacks in the void. Highlighted it in red in my picture. I'm just running clear mind and attribute. Both buffs mainly benefit martial artists. Not running any other buffs on my character and if I had gotten 8 attacks or more and ran buffs I'm sure the damage would of been 3+ million. Also not using any debuffs on the wyvern like mist of frailness.

If I had to predict what will happen to these enemies in the void in the future, I predict that eventually they'll reach the cap HP and MP of 20 million. I could be missing a zero but I think it's 20 million. While I'm not sure their life and mana attributes will grow their levels certainly will meaning more HP and MP for them. Their attributes will eventually cap and so will their skills. Resists may keep scaling as well.

While running around with all sorts of buffs is the ideal the reality is a lot different down here for me. I end up getting loaded down by debuffs. The horde of monsters have no qualms spamming their debuffs. The worse debuff down here naturally is silence but brainwash is a nice contender as well. I'm trying my best to keep my debuff counters leveled up through magic academy and leveling them when I have 400 potential but the monster hexes down here are so very strong that they overwhelm me.

Overall magic is very good for its utility and it can do respectable damage. Magic is certainly king in AOE but I do a lot more damage to a single target using Martial Arts. As enemy HP grows, debuffs get stronger, and scary resists become the norm, I'm glad I went hybrid martial artist and magic.

>>16331400
thanks for the advice!
i'm making a pianist

>>16331421
>gotten 8 attacks or more
I made a mistake here. 8 attacks seem to be the cap in number of attacks a martial artist with 2 hands can do. I'm not a mutant so my cap is 8 attacks but I wonder if mutants are restricted to this number as well. That's a scary thought though, all those hands doing 2d255.

>>16329924
For some reason I was under the impression that positive and negative mutations cancel one other out rather than overriding, and I'd need to use cure mutation until I get rid of the bad stuff then add good stuff with evolution. I'm not sure where I read this, and I can't find it under the feats or mutations pages on the wiki so I'm guessing it's not true.

>>16331400
my starter Yerles gunner has turned into a pretty ok guy, just need to figure out how to raise stat potentials more quickly

>>16331484
No problem.

Forgot to mention, if you haven't read it already, that the beginner's guide linked in the OP is good for giving you an idea of how to start when you are super squishy.

>>16331093
Nothing, I started to play 2 weeks ago without any knowledge, and without help from wiki for at least 3 days.

It's really fun to just fucked up in this game. There isn't permanent damage to your character anyway so don't worry.

>>16330389
>Konigs Katz
Does it really have cmetal? The wiki page for the monster doesn't indicate that it has cmetal and it would certainly buck the trend of metal monsters having crap HP from low life. Also looked up behicle and there's nothing indicating that that race has cmetal or damage reduction.

i can't assign any hotkeys
i go to my inventory then press 2 but nothing happens?????????????????

>>16330965
Something seems awfully suspicious here. I think we're looking at a Fairy masquerading as a Yerles! Don't worry miss. Your secret is safe with me!

>>16331883
wait never mind i'm little brain damaged

>>16331888
You cant have a fairy moving custom pcc , and i wanted to min max defenses. She's my throwaway anyway since i've got only one goal in mind . I want to create god

>>16331921
That is a bad idea, and I'll tell you why...

Kai will just kill it.

>>16331946
He cant kill Eyth though

>>16331951
Good point. Still not sure what is up with Eyth though. Does he just not show himself or do much so he doesn't get bothered? Or is he some etheral thing with no physical form in the first place?

>>16331986
I'm pretty sure he has better things to do , like keeping all the reality in check. My guess he's like Azatoth to Elona

>>16331986
He can bless bottles of water, so he must exist is some form.

NPC chatter occasionally mentions an era of "Eyth Terra". I'm not very familiar with the lore, but it sounds like Eyth was the dominant god of this era. Maybe it ended with him being cast down from the heavens or making some suicidal heroic sacrifice to save the world and losing most of his power and followers.

>>16332069
Let me tell you a little secret.

Eyth is actually the god of putits.

>>16332057
Honestly this is my current theory. Since someone brought up lore about how there is a class of god called "elder god". Apparently Izpalt was an elder god that got demoted to normal godhood, losing his true form, which he hates so much he wishes to break the world into its base elements to give him the power to reascend.

So my theory is Eyth is a elder god that you can't comprehend, holding the universe together.

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found an up and coming god

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Alright my little sister Mai(little girl) just graduated from some sort of witch academy and will now be staying with me. Let's see what she's learned.

Since she's a witch she'll probably pewpew in the back and...she's rushing towards the goblin? Her witch spells might work better at close range so she'll bla....she took the goblins head off with an axe? I...oh she's casting crystal spear at that thief. Surely this must be her ultimate attack that does....3 damage?

Kai: Timeout. You said you're a witch now and trained at some special school. What's going on? Why are you rushing enemies down? Also why aren't your spells melting enemies?

Mai: Ehehe. I didn't do too well in my classes but I was the best in my gym classes! Is there something wrong?

Kai: It's just...you don't attack like any spell caster I know. Instead of a witch, you're more like a warmage. That's not necessarily bad though. I can make you strong but this is quite a shock. What the hell were you doing the whole time at this witch school? You should of studied more!

Mai: Partied? I followed Lulwy neesan's advice on drinking beer to make my chest grow!

Kai: Geh. That troublesome goddess!

I had no idea that the witch evolve didn't do anything to the melee AI. I thought it would at least change a bit. This is going to be an interesting pet to raise. Instead of 1 primary skill to raise, casting, she's going to want 4 primary skill. Weapon skill, tactics, possibly two hand or dual wield, and casting.

>>16332381

>got two whips that give ######++ to casting
>can't toss them on a witch
>because don't have a witch
>because she's still a little girl

I just want a casting friend that's not a rogue wizard.

>>16332408
She's going to be an interesting mage because she likes to get in melee range. I'm probably going to end up trying to teach her some sort of ball spell like magic storm since she likes to get in melee range. For those curious, yes she keeps cheer even when evolved to a witch. I've seen her cast it but it's rare. I know the fix for that is to just increase her speed through AP or something as that will give her more turns and will raise the likelihood of seeing it casted more.

For a more traditional caster the Exile is one of the best magic casting pets. Exile has the unique ability to double cast dart like spells in one action.

>>16332381
shoulda fed her more fruit

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Hey Kai.
How do you level up strength, if you don't have herbs and stuff? Mine is so low, I can't seem to find an efficient way to bring it up.

Also, what do you use bonus points for?

uhhh why is lightning rod damage so bad, even on wet target it does half the damage of any other rod

>>16332714
Does it have a different BUC status?
Did you toggle Dupli-Cane?
Are you targeting things with non-flat resistances?
Have you changed your equipment?

>>16332654
Not Kai, but you can join the fighter's guild and pay 3pp to raise your strength potential, ~3 times to get from hopeless to superb. Fighter's guild entry quest is pretty easy, and you can savescum in case you get something stupid hard.

Then buy up potential for whatever strength based weapon skill you want to train and hack away. Or ranch animals whose meat trains strength.

I have this crazy idea where I steal all the fruit trees in North Tyris and dump them in my shop, then cook all their fruit every few days.

Does blessing a fruit-bearing tree do anything?

At what shop level do you guys start seeing scroll of flying frequently?

At shop level 500 it appear once per two month from me, over 3 magic vendor.

>>16331593
Wait, more hands increase martial art attacks? Does that mean I can wield 2 tonfas and still get 8 attacks if I get Gavela to add 2 more hands?

jfc, this game is 100% single threaded and just throws away inputs when that thread is busy doing anything other than idling. It's impossible to pick crops if my pet happens to start chasing a bat or a rabbit.

>>16333582
It is a good thing it discards inputs when not ready for inputs. If it didn't, you'd get situations where a player something during an enemy attack but changes their mind after the attack, and thus dies.

>>16333627
When I'm in a dangerous boss fight every turn I take is deliberate, I'm not button mashing. The button mashing busy-work is what would benefit from multi-threading. Besides, there is no reason player input and NPC AIs can't be on the same thread to avoid such a scenario.

Animation, input and sound should have their own threads. Most multi-threaded games don't put every little thing on their own threads, one will still do the lion's share of the processing, but other items that happen over time like animation or sounds are put on their own. Music seems to be on it's own thread, but I think sound effects are not. Everything else is instant, but the game is totally unresponsive when playing a sound effect.

>>16333785
Hi. Programmer speaking.

What you're talking about has literally nothing to do with multithreading.

What you're requesting is input buffering. You want the program to keep track of key presses and then apply them as soon as the program looks for inputs, instead of only accepting key inputs when input is needed.

The proper way of doing this* would be to set up a keyboard interrupt that feeds the keystroke into the buffer, then instead of looking for keyboard input just read directly from the buffer. Some decisions would have to be made regarding how much to store and when to flush the buffer, but it'd be trivial to set that up.

*If and ONLY if it's actually desired behavior. It's damn easy to do, so I can only assume it's not desired behavior.

>>16332654
Skill grind is the other half of the equation if you want to level up attributes. So for my character Kai leveling skills such as martial arts, tactics, and weight lifting has increased my strength. Looking up what attribute is keyed to what skill is useful in targeting how to get a specific attribute up.

For my character, I use bonus points to level up essential skills that make up my damage or skills that need extra help since they're hard to grind out. For the longest time, I only spent bonus points on martial arts and tactics. Now I'm spending them on the performer skill.

A pet can get bonus points as well by visiting Leold and exchanging the pet's AP for bonus points. To spend the bonus points for a pet you must visit an informer NPC in town and go to their character sheet with skills. I spend pet bonus points very similarly to how I do with my character. I specifically look for skills that make up their damage. So a caster pet has all its bonus points dumped into casting. A melee pet will probably need points in a weapon skill, tactics, and maybe two hand or dual wield. For a ranged pet it's firearm/bow/crossbow and marksman.

>>16333540
I'm not sure whether or not mutants are capped at 8 attacks for martial arts. What I do know about mutants is that they can get more neck slots for instance to pile on the that extra attack chance. So a mutant might be able to get 8 attacks more consistently than a non at the very least. Or, if mutants are not limited to 8 attacks, do more attacks.

I have no idea as to how many attacks a mutant can do mainly because I don't really hear much about the race and I don't play one. Not a lot of people get that far with one that I get to hear about.

As an additional side note, even once you cap martial arts and do 2d255, you can still raise your dice. Nefia cores that boost the martial arts skill can take you over the 2000 cap and make you do more than 2d255. So I do wonder what the damage would look like for a martial artist that made a martial artist specialized suit. Not sure if it's practical to give up resists from artifact fusion for such an endeavor but naturally I'm curious. A mutant would probably have an easier time dealing with resists and creating such a suit since they have more equipment slots available to them.

More info on how additional attacks work can be found here just above the comment section:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_attributes

>>16333924
To make it clearer about additional attacks with martial arts and hands since I seem to have kind of danced around the question instead of directly answering it, I'm not sure whether or not additional hands will boost your number of attacks with martial arts as I've never played one. The known cap for number of attacks with martial arts is 8 for creatures with two hands but I have no idea if a cap like that exists for mutants as well. A character with additional equipment slots can probably stack additional attack chance better than a character with default slots. Whether or not you can just stack so much additional attack chance to break the 8 cap is currently unknown. At the very least, you'll consistently get 8 attacks.

>>16331921

>Can't have a moving fairy custom pcc

http://vkyo.web.fc2.com/pcc.html

Behold! (Click No. 11)

I just had a brainwave: 29-slot Mutant mount.

Mounts don't get the complicated body penalty. Body slots can be converted to Speed at 150 speed per slot if you're willing to farm a LOT of tears.

This is potentially the fastest you can ever be, beating out kokou + delta core + lulwy + max swimming.

>>16334334
This is a neat idea. Reasons like this is why I kinda want to give mounts another look with my character Kai. I plan on making him a robot to mount/fly around in so I can experiment with stuff. I have every excuse to experiment with crazy body setups with a mech.

what do i fuse onto my little girl to give her cooking skill?

>>16334426
What monsters will give up is a bit different depending on the pet you use. I remember one time using a performer and that gave the cooking skill to the little girl. Another time I had to fuse a sage of Elea to get the cooking skill on another pet as the performer didn't give it.

>>16331421
The stats say the wyvern has 20k health, yet you're dealing 2 mil and it doesn't die. What's going on there?

>>16334556
He probably really has around 200 to 400k HP. I weakened him down to around 20k before I sandbagged him as that's the requirement to use that item. Problem is that I do so much damage at this void floor level that I can't accurately capture my potential damage because the enemy dies before I get in the millions. So by sandbagging the enemy the enemy doesn't ever die and I can see those numbers.

I can definitely move on to deeper floors with tougher enemies but the reason why I'm still on floor 600 or so is mainly for my pet Saya. She stays alive well down here and seems to get AP for almost every enemy on these floors around 600. If she's doing alright at this level I might as well milk it until she stops getting AP from these floors.

the latest version of elonaplus pops up a page of garbled text in the browser. Any idea how to make it not do that?

>>16334601
Latest version of Elona+ is 1.64 afaik. No problems running the game here and no garbled text in any browser. Are you talking about downloading the game off of the wiki? I believe one of the links takes you to the Japanese wiki. I wonder if your computer is not set up to support Japanese characters and that might cause the website to look odd. You would need to install Japanese characters onto your computer or browser. I'm sure there's a tutorial you can google to set it up if you need it.

Then the problem for you would be translating the Japanese characters of the website...can just run it through google translate or something like that.

>>16334426
I think a zombie cat can do it

>>16334664
Nevermind, I got it.

For other people with the same problem (garbled page on startup in the Japanese version): switch 'net' to 0 in config.txt. I think it's just an error message because the server for net stuff is now deactivated.

>>16334599
you should try the high-level awakened dungeons, just for fun. The great thing about it is you can ramp it up really fast (clearing a lvl 1000 dungeon will make lvl 1500 dungeons spawn, etc), and can still ramp back down using the hidden area in south tyris.

I think HP rises linearly as a function of level. If you're right and that wyvern has 200-400k HP at max constitution and lvl 910, a lvl 6666 wyvern would have less than 4 million HP. So having very high MA damage is probably overkill, compared to a weaker but AOE meteor that you can proc from the other side of the map, all without the danger of getting debuffed or having to get up in the face of monsters one at a time while ten of them gang up on you.

>>16334808
I'm preparing to go against enemies with 20 million HP. Lv 6666 isn't the cap level although I did hear some people say it was. I have no idea what the cap level but my prior character was higher than level 6,666. Back when it was much easier to level your character through meteoring summoned spirits. That was nerfed though.

In light of enemies having 20 million HP a 3 million damage punch or a 1 million damage meteor I don't think will protect me from enemies descending on me and eventually mobbing me. So as funny as this sounds, I truly believe the power of friendship anime trope will help here. By this I mean having a nice party of very powerful pets at your side to help pour on the damage and hopefully keep you alive.

>>16312182
Inventory screen? Like hitting d or X? That shows backpack/backpack max and cargo, but not cargo max. Where can I see cargo max? And is that different from the max to use return?

>>16335145
Not that anon but don't you have all the information you need with your original post? >>16312152
Your picture says Cargo limit 60s. When you purchase cargo it tells you how much it weighs so you can add it all up to find how much cargo you can carry. From what your picture is saying you can carry 80s worth of cargo before you start suffering speed penalties. At double your cargo limit you can't even move on the world map. You can see for yourself if you run your own tests.

>>16335239
>Your picture says Cargo limit 60s.
*80s

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I've barely had these undead for a minute and I'm already having fun.

>>16335239
>>16335244
The label text overlaps the value and it's illegible, looks like €0.0s to me. I wonder what will happen when it hits triple digits.

Should I id food before selling it in a shop or will the customers know the enchant level even if it's unidentified?

Is a Inn or Magic Shop more profiting?

I'm buying all the potion from the magic vendor and it nets me 500k per run. How is the magic shop's profit?

>>16335430
Reason why I changed the font for the game so I don't run into that problem. You can change the font in the game by editing an entry in config.txt

>>16335517
What's a nice font?

>>16335520
I've seen people run Calibri. I would just open up something like Microsoft word, try out different fonts to see which is most eye pleasing to you, and then put that font into the config.txt.

>>16335437
The shopkeeper will sell food regardless if it's identified or not. Whether or not stuff IDed is worth more I don't know offhand because I tend to just drop everything in the shop IDed or not and leave. It would be easy to test though. Sell one batch of the same item IDed to find the amount of gold you get from that. Then sell another batch of that item not IDed. Compare the values.

>>16335552
I have some weird spacing when using other fonts. Do I need to change any setting when I used other fonts?

>>16335618
Screen resolution might play a role but in general some fonts just work better than others.

>>16335589
Looks like identifying the food doesn't do anything noticeable to income. Was between 50-80k per night identified, which is about what I get for unidentified food.

>>16335714
Cool. Thanks for sharing as I was curious about this too.

I haven't played Elona in a few years, but I've been on a roguelike binge recently and feel like playing the one that first snagged me. And properly, this time.

That said, glancing at the thread I can see people are playing a variety of different versions and/or Custom. I'm not entirely sure what version I should reenter Elona with. What's the major differences between the latest Custom, 1.63, and 1.64

EOP, if that matters.

>>16335883
I think Custom is up to version 1.62, but I don't know about the differences between the three.

>>16335883
The most recent version of Elona+, 1.64, just released recently and some players are playing that. Elona Custom is something you add to Elona+ for better English translations, English story cutscenes, game tweaks, and better pet AI. Elona Custom requires Elona+ to run. Elona Custom hasn't been updated to work with Elona+ 1.64 though. Elona Custom is meant to be run with Elona+ 1.62.

So the way I see it, players are probably playing Elona+ 1.62 with Elona Custom or they're playing Elona+ 1.64. The people probably playing Elona+ 1.62 are playing it for the pet AI and to experience the story with cutscenes.

The people playing 1.64 either already have experienced the majority of the story, can understand Japanese, or don't care about the story at all and are just doing their own thing because the game is a sandbox.

Not sure why people playing 1.63 wouldn't upgrade to 1.64 but I understand why some people don't want to update from 1.62 to 1.64 until Elona Custom comes out for 1.64. The only thought that comes to mind why people are playing 1.63 is because the dropbox download for Elona+ is for 1.63 and hasn't updated to 1.64 yet. To download 1.64 you need to follow the Japanese link and some people don't know how to navigate that site so they just use the easier dropbox link.

>want to get to Zeome's level
>it's blocked off by five gorillion invisible mage assholes and 6 titans

>>16335937
Cheers mate. I was just going to delve into 1.64 but I never did much of the story content when I first played it, so I think I'll stick to Custom for the time being.
Thanks!

>>16334128
I hate you , but i love you.
But i hate you , fuck

>>16335292
You traitor! Why did you switch your god anon
>>16335486
My shopkeeper has around 40 charisma and 80 negotiation. It neets me 100k with a magic shop , and i never bought anything from the vendors to test the max output

Is there any sure-fire way to get a Kitty Bank? I'm walking around with 600k+ and I don't really want to lose it since this was my last kitty bank's collections at 2,7 million. But now I lack a kitty bank to store this shit in.

If you get an ether disease on a mutant that blocks your neck when you dont have the neck slot you get it for free. But if you have 2 neck slots , does the ether disease block both of them or just 1 ?

>>16335990
There is one in Noyel, in the general goods shop, which respawns every 48 hours, or whatever the time for towns to respawn is.

>>16335990

Ohh. Thanks, anon.

>>16335486
>>16335984
I just switched from Inn to magic shop, and it net me 1.1m with the same rotation (Palmia, Lumiest, 2 magic vendor and general good in my castle).

>>16336023

This was obviously meant to >>16336021 , not myself.

What does adding enchantment levels on bullets and such do? If I don't use ranged attacks that often, is it even worth it for me to use money on upgrading my bullets? I currently only use them for additional speed.

>>16336112
you cant add enchantments on bullets anon

>>16336115

Oh. Well, that answers that real quick then, haha.

>>16336117
it would be costly , since the ranged playstile requires people switch bullets frequently. That would require to enchant a bunch of stuff in addition to your usual equip.

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>want to kill Zeome
>actually more excited about south tyris than anything else in gaming right now
>can't get past Zeome because main weapon is an Ivy Spine
>that gives -poison resistance
>can't find shit that gives poison resistance
>he also shoots magic
>the one thing that i lack resistance in
>try to silence him
>he resists it
>try to slow
>resist
>try to do anything
>poison damage + magic damage
>mfw

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Fron states a far better quip than I as the quest I have started on South Tyris finally comes to a close. After I do a bit of exploring around lost Irva, I shall update to 1.64 just in time to collect that unique throwing item.

This victory is dedicated to Ivbeck the Noble, a man who joined our adventure earlier during the Festival of Jure and was killed in a friendly fire incident involving multiple automated mortars in the bid to collect ether to fight the Meshera. He was indispensable in the exploration of Rehmido, his quick-firing blaster vital against fighting Orphe and his legion of dark spirits. Ivbeck shall surely be missed by his family and friends.

>Ivbeck the Noble (Noble)
>Lvl. 100 Norland Warrior, M
>Killed by a grenade thrown by Yerles Mortar on Floor 2 of the Ancient Garden.
>You were 22 years old.
>You were a devout worshiper of <Yacatect>(6400).
>You were celibate.
>Your fame was 0.
>Your luck was 0.
>You died.

Likewise, a moment is taken to acknowledge the other fallen:

>x1 Yerles Conbat Plane, Lost in a Dungeon
>x1 Younger Sister, Assassinated by an Assassin Lizard
>x1 Yerles Elite Machine Infantry, Killed by Malfunctioning Mobile Communication Equipment in Rehmido
>x1 Yerles Latest Outfit Soldier, Lost in Rehmido
>x2 Yerles Mortars, Lost in the Ancient Garden
>x2 Staff, one lost to the Security Systems of the Machine Fort, another killed by a Madling in the Wilderness
>x1 Jure Fanatic, Assassinated by an Assassin Lizard

Gone, but not forgotten (Inferno mode pet deaths enabled). A good way to coordinate your pets, including pulling heavily-injured ones out of harm's way is using tag mode on yourself and tagging with the beleaguered ally. This greatly reduces the chances they'll be damaged further, and gives you time to either heal or dismiss them.

Is living weapon always an artifact? Do they always have a name or I have to check every weapon?

which pets should i use if i still want to b relevant later on? feel free to respond whenever you can i'm going out! =3=

>>16336460
Snail

>>16336333
Damn, look at those stats. I hope you enjoy grinding to the gods now.

>>16336460
any bell you can nab will help. Equip em with sniper rifles.

>>16336667
Bell is definitely not relevant later on though, unless you plan to switch to another high level bell. In fact, your character and your pets maybe undertrained due to bell stealing everything.

Wait i just got deed of heirship from my shop. Does that mean that deeds count as magic items and i can sells deeds of castle in my magic shop ?

>>16336836
I'm going to try it, report to you later.

>>16336842
Thanks , good luck. I would try it myself but my finances are not stable enough to allow me to buy a bunch of castle deeds

1.64 custom when? I literally just need the option to collect everything after a party time quest

>>16336842
>>16336836
I just sold a deed of ranch. Magic shop confirmed the most profitable now.

>>16336845
>>16336855
Fuck, deed of palace can't be sold. I don't get how it work though.

>>16336855
Wait, can you make money if you buy deeds from shops and sell them in your own?

>>16336855
>>16336869
If ranch and heirship work , but palace not maiby it's limited to deeds that are not your home ?

>>16336869
Some deeds can't be sold. Not sure which ones though.

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>>16336879
Further testing shows that deed of house can't be sold. Other deed such as dungeon, ranch, shop can be sold.

>>16336870
When your negotiation and your shopkeeper negotiation is high enough such that you can purchase from shop and still profit, yes.

>>16332475
>Exile has the unique ability to double cast dart like spells in one action.
Better.
TRIPLE casting

>>16336870
>>16336920
On further testing, no. At 100+ negotiation (lowest purchase price, and with my imouto shopkeeper at 158 charisma and 282 negotiation, I actually lose money by just reselling deeds.

>>16337005
Yeah, thought, there was about 15% loss, I guess fishing is still the best way to make money, at least for me.

Can you only feed one cute fairy? I have about 7 through ranches, and I fed three, but only the first dropped seeds? The first one dropped on the first food item I gave it, but the other two didn't at all even though I gave them about three food items.
I fed them my cooked fish, so I doubt the quality is the problem.

>>16337010
I actually gain around profit by just reselling non-deed magic item though. A round from Palmia, Lumiest, 2 magic vendor and a general good vendor in my house cost me around 700k. My gold jump from 900k to 1.6m after one round.

>>16337010
I don't really use the fairy myself. I have 7 statue of Kumiromi from the little sister quest, made a farm for herb seed and another for strange seed.

I had an Inn before I changed to magic shop. I can gain quite some profit by just selling beer and coffee from the strange seed farm. Even more if I resell the potion from the magic vendor.

2 quick question. What does the gravity ether disease and why the goose is such a stingy bitch ? I tried feed her rotten , normal and cooked food and she never shit platinum once.

>>16337284
Gravity makes your equipment weight you down more.

>>16325419
Certain types of food absolutely refuse to sell from what I've noticed, the potatoes, cbochi and some others always stay in the shop when I get back. Sell those by yourself at a vendor instead.

I don't know if it's a bug or something, but those things will absolutely never sell, so don't bother leaving them on the floor in your shop.

>>16337005
I already told you guys the shopkeeper has a max amount for sales.

I did some testing and max i could sell an individual item for was around 200k (2k neg cha with snak)

I also did some testing in my regular game and the max amount seems to go up by 300g every 2 or 3 level (im thinking 2), and probably slows down later.

I keep teleporting, but I don't have any cursed items, nor do I have ether disease, what is going on?

>>16337482
Never mind, I guess it was cursed, but it didn't appear when I examined it.

>>16337310
1.63 restaurateur here, sweet potato and melon (melon melon, not water or musk) are the only items that won't sell.

It gives me something to eat with no opportunity cost.

>>16337635
and carrots

Does anyone have a problem running Elona on windows 10?

I was running it fine on my shitty laptop, but now that I got a slightly better computer the game is slowing down.

>>16337676
When I first upgraded to Windows 10 there was noticeable slowdown, especially when loading new maps.

After playing a while it seemed to fix itself though, so I am not sure what was up with it.

>>16337689
I see. I'll keep playing to see if it fixes itself, thanks.

I felt retarded, I spent 15 blessed potion of potential on the low level Defender, only to remember I can just give her money to raise the stat potential.

>>16335728
After further testing I'm not sure any more. There's a pretty wide variance in what I rake in each day depending on what dishes I cook and what they are made of. A muskmelon parfait sells for 20x a grape sherbet etc...

Anyone with more shop experience who can weigh in?

Why should i pay 50k taxes to some government that did nothing for me when i'm just a merchant that build herself from the ground up starting in a shitty cave ?

>>16338314
Because you use public services such as etherwind shelters which we have mandated built at all inns. Also there are various dues and taxes levied upon you from other source. For instance, if you're part of any guilds they have membership dues. What? You thought that free access to special trainers and special services from these guilds were free? Also, you're in my domain merchant. You will pay taxes for setting up your home and shops on land I own.

t.Palmia King

>>16338314
Well, you do get a salary for being an adventurer, so they force you to pay taxes too.

>>16338443
Just you wait fucker , once i get to join the thief guild i will have kitty banks for days and i will never pay more than 1k gold again
>>16338448
Did i ask to be an adventurer ? i dont remember signing anything with my blood

>>16338456
Lomias signed your contract with your blood while you were out.

>>16338464
I swear i will hunt him down forever , be it in the party quest multiverse or the void

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Found myself a lucky charm.

>>16338525
a better lucky charm is letting the girl come with you until the end of the universe by eating her body , this way you assimilate both her soul and her cells

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Mai: Oh I didn't know we were stopping by some villain's castle to dispose of him before we went home.

Kai: That villain's castle is actually my home. It just kind of turned out that way. At the very least it, the monsters in my employ should feel at home. I was on the road a lot in the past so I didn't really need a home but now that I don't need to travel as much I figured it was time to work on making a permanent residence.

Mai: At least the rooms look comfy enough.

Kai: My home isn't quite finished yet but the essentials are there. There's rooms for my servants, a waiting room to receive guests and to collect offerings, a throne room where people can come to discuss things with me, a mixed bath, a dining room, kitchen, and kitchen backroom.

Kai: And this is my room. You'll be sleeping here until work on your room is finished. Speaking of other rooms I plan on creating a forge/workshop where I will do my crafting and store my mount/robot for maintenance. I also intend to make an alchemy/wizard workshop, an armory, and a war room where I will discuss with my allies/pets strategy and yearly goals.

While I enjoy getting a palace for the 8 vendors I was always intimidated by the amount of space available and wasn't sure how I would use it if I were to construct my home. Taking inspiration from chaos forts and default shops I decided to just fill the entire map with a wall tile. In my case it was this purple dank wall tile.

I would then just need to hollow my home out to add rooms. Instead of worrying about the exact dimensions of my home and having to plan out in advance what my home would like like, I could just focus more on room design and add things as I thought them up. Picture kind of captures the process. I pretty much just stitched new rooms into the picture as I hollowed out my home to make new rooms. If I don't fill the entire map with rooms it will be easy to just replace the excess walls with outdoor tiles.

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what the fuck

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>>16336460
All pets can be relevant later on.

There's just a couple of considerations to keep in mind though when choosing a pet. Ease of training, bit flags, and skill dumps. There are probably other considerations people have but those are my personal big three.

Ease of training a pet largely revolves around a pet's INI score. The higher the INI score, the harder it is to train the pet to become stronger. Pet's with high INI scores spend more gold when visiting their trainers to recover attribute and skill potential. I remember one pet I had on my previous character that spent around 100k in gold each time she visited her trainer because her INI score was so high. Recovering potential is important for proper skill and attribute growth so pets need to be given gold. So if you're broke, like most of us when starting out, a high INI pet is not doing you any favors. They require lots of money to keep getting stronger.

A pet's INI score also determines ease of getting AP. Again, higher INI pets have a harder time getting AP. They need to fight stronger monsters from the very start to get AP compared to low INI pets. AP is a very valuable to a pet because you can trade in AP to an NPC named Leold for speed upgrades, special abilities/attacks, and for bonus points to level up your pet's skills. A pet with low INI will have an easier time gaining AP thus they will probably rise in skill level, speed, etc faster than higher INI pets.

So what pets will have higher INI scores? Pets that have a lot of speed right off the bat when you dominate or capture them and pets that start off at a high level that have good attributes right from the get go. Low INI pets are the opposite. They start with horrible speed, horrible attributes and are low level. Yet, low INI pets have the best power growth rates if you know how to work the system.

The reason why people earlier in this thread say the bell and quickling are horrible pets later on is because they have a high INI score due to their high starting speed. They sure are powerful when you first get them but due to their high INI scores they can be very tough to make stronger if you're not rich enough to fund their trainer fees and are not strong enough to fight the monsters that give them AP which is used to quicken their overall power growth.

Moving on to bit flags, with the advent of Custom and the ability to teach pets most of what a player knows, there isn't much really separating one pet from another insofar as special actions and spells. Even without Custom Leold can still offer some interesting abilities to pets that lack them. What can truly make a pet unique are bit flags. These bit flags can be considered special qualities that a group of pets have. One highly sought after bit flag is the cmetal bit flag. Any pet with this bit flag has 90% physical damage resistance. Bells for instance have this bit flag. However, with most things there is a catch as another anon has pointed out in the thread. The pets that have this bit flag tend to have horrible a horrible life attribute meaning they don't have a lot of HP.

Due to their low HP and ability to play the game for the player leading to the player to suffer from lack of skills at the proper later on, I view bells, or any cmetal pet, as a new player trap unless you know exactly what you're doing and manage your character well.

Finally, the last consideration is skill dumps. Specifically, what you should be putting your pet's bonus points into. Warrior like pets have 3 skill dumps for damage. A weapon skill, tactics, and an optional third skill whether that be two hand or dual wield. Range, firearms, archers, etc have 2 skill dumps. Weapon skill and Marksman. A wizard pet has just 1 damage skill dump. Casting. Hybrids can have any number of skill dumps. Up to the player if they want to treat Eye of Mind as a skill dump but generally I don't go out of my way to train it and just have it level up naturally.

So imo a wizard like pet with low INI is the fastest kind of pet to raise to power. You only need to pump casting to make them blow stuff up. Then it's either a ranged pet or a melee pet. A melee pet may take a little longer if you choose to pump dual wield or two hand.

I personally think people that are low level and starting out would have an easier time with pets if they just went for a low INI pet instead of trying to get some tentacle horror or crazy pet that starts out at high level. Pretty much any pet with an INI score similar to god reward pets or lower is good for people starting out.

Leave the higher INI pets for later once you're more established in the game and can defeat the monsters required to get them AP. Also leave the bit flag pets like cmetal pets for later when you can farm hero cheese. I have two pets currently. Saya, which started as a low lv Elea warrior I got from the slave trader and a little girl. Saya is an easy pet for me to grow in power. Low INI score and only 2 dump skills.

The stamina cost on cooking gets really irritating when you've got three farms worth of produce to process. Why does it even cost stamina in the first place?

>>16340260
I fucking dare you to fry 16 fish in a row and not sit down between them

>>16340260
A professional chef at a popular restaurant during busy hours will definitely tell you cooking takes stamina. If you don't sweat going through 3 farms worth of produce you're not human.

>>16340272
>>16340337
Realism does not excuse bad game mechanics.
And if we're tying things to real world stamina, I'd love to see you two hike 48 hours in full plate without getting tired.

>>16340346
>And if we're tying things to real world stamina, I'd love to see you two hike 48 hours in full plate without getting tired.

Why would you think I disagree with adding a stamina system for heavy armor based on my initial comment? Also it's not a big fucking deal to hold shift R.

>>16336460
All the god pets are good. Golden Knight + Defender + Valyrie are a solid melee core that will keep you safe if you are a gunner/wizard/cleric. If you upgrade the android she will sometimes use fire a volley, so if you do that don't put any armageddon weapons in ranged slots of your melee bets or you might accidentally get fucked.

>>16336501
underrated post

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmdBiiXzjhM

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>>16340593
>Eyth

>>16340593
I wish to fill the world with puddies

Why is nothing in the Cyber Dome respawning? Other towns I can mine a hole in a wall and it respawns after ~a month. I mined a hole in a wall 2 years ago and it's still like that.

>>16340667
If that's what Eyth is based off of he really is the fedora god. I just figured he was some NEET god that didn't want to be bothered. Well fuck Eyth then. I don't want any part in that faggotry. Guess I'll sign up with Jure for that hug pillow.

>>16340593
http://ylvania.org/jp/devlog/post/8
New blog post too. Apparently graphics are good now and noa will be focusing on gameplay next year.

>>16339998

Kai, out of curiosity, what is your maximum speed fully buffed up?

>>16340748
Leold tell you that in some place (like the Cyber Dome) stuff doesn't respawn

>>16340750
I don't think 40K and Elona have much in common, it's probably a pun on "atheist".

Though i'd be interesting to "worship" Eith for a fuckton of time, swearing off god rewards/pets for a long while, not having any of your pets worship any god and all that jazz.
And then, one day you go to the Truce Ground and, in a corner, out of sight, fairly unremarkable, there is something.

The <Fedora> (a Euphoric Hat when unidentified)
It weighs 0.1s
Why would anyone wear such a thing?
It's made of cloth.
It's precious.
It can be wielded as a weapon. (1d4 Pierce 0%)
It It modifies hit bonus by -1 and damage bonus by 0.
It grants your resistance to magic. [#####+]
It grants you resistance to nether. [#####+]
It decreases your Faith skill. [#####+]
It decreases your Casting skill. [#####+]
It decreases your Charisma by 2000.
It decreases your Magic by 2000.
It deals massive damage to gods. [#####+]

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>Read a spellbock
>Die of overcasting
>Lose 600k and my only potential herb
And people say that reading is good for you

>>16341721
I know how that feels. I've learned to identify spellbooks to see what they are and I only read easy spellbooks until I get my literacy up and some levels for HP and MP to survive any mishap. Been reading spells with low mp costs. So far that has worked for me in avoiding too hard to read books.

>>16341740
I only wanted to level literacy to get in the mage guild and grab super evasion. Since i never played mage i never bothered checked what happens with them , so it's partially my fault.

>>16335292
How do you do necromancy? That would be something fun to get into, but I have no idea how it works, and I couldn't find anything on the wiki.

>>16341721
One of the failures is removing your Maximum MP from your current MP.

Ie: you have 100/100 MP, the failure will bring you at 0/100 MP, if instead you have 50/60 MP you will end up at -10 and take overcasting damage.
It probably sucked all your MP before, then ended up with the same failure again (thus putting you far into the negatives) and take massive overcast damage.

Tl;dr: Check yo MP when reading.

Though do not despair, once you reach enough Literacy (or Learning, can't remember) you get access to the Reading Party [W]ide action that stops failures from harming you (they can still happen, only they will not cause any effect but wasting the book's charge)

Those bandits are pretty stupid.
I travel around with 2 milion ? They didnt show up in so long that i forgot they existed.
I have only 100k gold left after some big purchases ? 4 rogue attacks in a row , i cant even walk for 4 squares on the map.
>>16341796
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Coffin_of_Necromancy

>>16341803
>I already had reading party
>I could have avoided the disaster
Ignorance is bliss , now i feel even worse

>>16341834
It also helps since it adds some of your pet's Literacy to yours. Also it trains Learning

>>16341815
I reached a point where I actually hope for bandit encounters since they are pretty easy and give ap to everyone.

The bloody hell happened to the sweet armor I just found? It seems to have disappeared sometime between when I'd entered town and when I ID'ed all my stuff.

Just taught Healing Rain to my 2 bell and pro-jet. With the custom AI this is so broken.