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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
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>>16226916
ugly
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>>16226916
lewd
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>>16226930
I don't get it, did it take them 10 years to release a game before?
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>>16226916
Cute, too bad the game itself wasn't good.
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>>16226650
>What's the best SMEE title, Fureraba or Pure x Connect?
Fureraba definitely. While Pure x Connect doesn't have high school, it actually has much more haremy setting with many heroines at the restaurant already falling for the protagonist during the common route as is the case with Loverable. Fureraba in comparison focuses on one heroine at a time from the start (you don't even see one of the heroines at all unless you specifically choose her scenes), plus it has the fun common route discussion system that Pure x Connect doesn't have.
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>>16227193
>plus it has the fun common route discussion system that Pure x Connect doesn't have.
Awful, dragged out system
>you don't even see one of the heroines at all unless you specifically choose her scenes
This is not good and one of the biggest problems with moege.
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>>16227215
I would agree with you if the heroines in moege didn't tend to be boring in the first place, and when they get together, all they talk about is MC anyway
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>>16227215
>Awful, dragged out system
It's great. Not very difficult as even quite a few failures don't matter, so you don't need a walkthrough or reloading if you have a small amount of foresight and it makes the player feel like they're actively trying to progress a relationship.

>This is not good and one of the biggest problems with moege.
Depends on what you're looking for in moege.

In my opinion if you're going to make a game where the main plot is about trying to find a girlfriend and go dating with her, other characters and long-drawn events, especially extremely long common routes are usually unneeded noise cluttering up the main experience, that being the development between the protagonist and the girl in question. And it's not like the other heroines suddenly poof from some established plot in FureRaba as they don't even have much presence in the common route anyways unless the player chooses to pursue specifically them. The game itself is setup so that Himari is an estranged childhood friend who doesn't harbor special feeling towards the protagonist, he just met Yuzuyu and he's only heard rumors about Misaki, though I can give you Rina as she's supposedly friends with him.
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Why are people hating on Niijima Yuu and Key? I thought Majo Koi Nikki was good, and while I'm not a Key fan I thought they had a huge fanbase. Was Angel Beats that bad? Or are people just mad because Key has gone all ages only?
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>>16227434
Niijima Yuu addition is fantastic. The only people "hating" on him are dumb moebuta because they didn't get a "marry girl and live happily ever after" ending.
This new staff is great precisely because it isn't usual Key. Way better artist and scenario writer, plus Maeda is apparently having a hand too. I'm excited for it.
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>>16227434
>Why are people hating on Niijima Yuu
The cucking by music maymay
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>>16227434
Well the thing to know about key is the last "real" key game, as in the last one really made from Maeda's heart, was Little Busters in 2007. That's almost a full decade ago. In the intervening years, all of Key's diehard fans, the ones who fell in love with Clannad and all that, have pretty much moved on.
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>>16227444
So far I've liked both Niijima Yuu games I have read. Hate his ending or not, he writes decent prose that isn't to repetitive or filled with too much fluff/padding. He also makes nice character relationships.
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>>16227434
>I'm excited for it.
Same. This is the first time I'm hyped for Key game.
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>Gets rejected irl
>Gets rejected in game

This triggers the moebuta.
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>>16227489
Joke's on you, I never even had target to ask out.
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Perfect logic this girl has.
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>>16227489
I'm pretty sure getting triggered on any kind of rejection is normal, expected human reaction unless it's a master cuck who enjoys it.
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>>16227554
>triggered

No. Normal would be to be sad about it or whatever. But it can be part of a normal story, where getting rejected by the first love but finding something better later is the main-point. (And also not exactly unrealistic either)
It's not normal to get triggered and spam the net with hate-messages for the author.
Also in this case it's not even really getting cucked. When we speak of this from recent eroge example, the worst is "she didn't want to be a housewife" or "she enjoyed the dildo" tier of stupidness.
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>>16227554
No, when you get rejected a normal human being might feel a little disappointed but then shrug it off and get on with their life.
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>>16227658
I find them talking really saltily about it on social media.
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>>16226916
How is that room so clean wtf every surface looks polished
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>>16227869
to this day I think Chaos;Head is the only vn I've ever seen that had a realistic depiction of the state of someone's room
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>>16227875

Here too, perfectly accurate.
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>>16227898
>I really don't like horror stuff
>but I live on the set of a horror movie
there's nothing on that bed, it's just a wooden frame, what the shit
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>>16227898
That house was run down and in some field out in the middle of nowhere
>>16227907
Not her house
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>>16227920

Still someone living there. Sorta. So it works out.
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>>16224139
I'm definitely with you, it has the best comedy of this year imo and all the characters were pretty good. Yeah the routes did sucked, also getting very short, only h-scene oriented routes for two best heroines made me kinda angry but still I enjoyed it very much. I'll probably buy the FD and hope that they'd make a proper after stories for heroines this time.
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>>16227522
Everyone agrees she's best girl in Natsukuru by far, right? Good, just checking.
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>>16227434
>good writer
>all ages
>has to be key
i got pretty exited for a second. damn it
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>>16228659

Currently I don't see another girl who I could even call good, so she kinda wins by default. This really lacks a Fuyune for humor. The one this got exchanged with doesn't work at all for me. (the other dude, titty-girl..)

Well, struggling on, one chapter a day or so. If I don't get into it soon, I'll just drop it. As much as I'd be interested in the main-themes, it's not fun like this. Can't skip or even skim anything either, as it's kinda the thing of these works to read between the lines and pay attention as "important" things can come at any time without any warning.
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>>16228952
Yuuri suddenly turns really funny starting from Rine route on. It surprised me.
Not sure why you're struggling though, it's much better paced than Harukuru and stuff constantly happens. And like usual the final route is the highlight.
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>>16228952
Assuming you posted that image, I'm not sure why you're complaining when you're only a few hours in? You're basically the same as people who dropped Harukuru during the prologue because they thought it was just a nukige.
And all the girls are great, but in particular Rine is really funny and genki, I don't know why you'd like Fuyune and not her. I guess if you like Fuyune's curt sarcasm then as the other guy said you'll enjoy Yuuri.
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>>16227434
fyi
http://futalog.com/451004818.htm
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>>16229044

Being ~4-5 hours in and not having much fun is actually bad. I haven't dropped it yet, but there's simply a line. Can't like everything.
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>>16227658
Why are you expecting eroge players to be normal people? Are you retarded?
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>>16229044
Rine was annoying, I say that as someone who loves genki characters. Fuyune was infinitely superior and witty.
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>>16229521
Actually the retarded part about the entire discussion is thinking it's something only eroge players do.
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>>16229585
What genki characters do you like if not Rine? She's everything you could want - happy, optimistic, enthusiastic about everything, cute, but with a traumatic past filled with suffering and pain that she tries to mask with her cheerfulness, so you get the pleasure of helping her overcome her trauma and give her worth as a person.
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>>16227444
I always see people shitting on moebuta here but can you define what you mean by moebuta first?
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>>16229928
I think moebuta is clearly defined, people who are obsessive about moe and nothing else, they don't care about stories or writing or anything but moe girls and havign safe vanilla happy relationship simulations in games.
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>>16229928
People who only play eroge for cute girls, wish fulfillment and nothing else. Example of a moebuta company: Yuzusoft.
They're pretty much everything wrong with the industry, like boycotting all-ages games even if they're well written and innovative. Or like that one Purplesoft game that bombed because it "only" had H-scenes as an add-on from the menu rather being implemented in the game (when they wouldn't even fit into the story).
And the worst of all is that you see moebuta affecting non-moe games like Baldr Heart (ero had no place in it) and Senmomo (game would be better if you straight up cut the side routes).
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>>16225989
It's from EG Maker.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=109042
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How is the VN industry doing?
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>>16229974
You can't describe Senmomo as a non-moe game, it's very clearly supposed to be both moe and plot. If anything the game would've been better if you cut out some of the fight scenes for more fun student council stuff.
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>>16229974
Well, if there was something else it would be called a different name instead of something with "ero" on the tin.
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>>16229974
>Baldr Heart (ero had no place in it)
??? The Baldr series always had ero.
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>>16229974
To be fair, I don't find anything moe-related in Baldr Heart's writing. The only thing noobs may find "moe" about it is the art, but fucked if Kikuchi Seiji could do anything better with his current art.
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>>16229949
As someone who doesn't care much for ero, I actually share their sentiment on the last one. Of all the "shit goes down" scenarios in writing, romantic drama is the absolute dullest and least interesting thing to sit through.
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>>16229974
>Baldr Heart (ero had no place in it)
The H-scenes hardly detract from the overall experience. However I can understand if you're complaining about the games themselves being "route per heroine" structured as they do get a bit repetitive when reusing the same plot points, but then again that just means the devs weren't capable of making each route unique enough rather than the ero or moe itself being the issue. If there's one thing moe may or may not have affected in Heart it's the heroine designs, as in my opinion the school uniforms are extremely bland compared to Sky's heroines with their various uniforms or other types of clothing. But then again the most moe fairies look good in comparison to the actual heroines.

I'd also like to mention games like Himawari and Island as counter examples. Both have sex related stuff for a reason, and in my opinion the lack of H-scenes in Island actually detracts from the experience as the protagonist having sex with certain characters is a major plot point. There's also the fact all-ages games may have troubles describing other, more adult but non-sexual things as well without getting censored, f.ex. all-ages release of Dies Irae.
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>>16227215
>Awful, dragged out system
It's great, it feels more like a dating "sim" than grinding stats in dating sims. Also the conversations were fun too.
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>>16230827
If you don't like the concept of dating simulation in the first place you won't like it. Those who prefer a more linear kind of scenario and system would prefer PxC.
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What was the name of that one Japanese NTR database website that marked Music NTR as a new genre? I remember someone posting it a while back when that game first came out.
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>>16230042
Great.
It's completely pandering to my taste, safe for some tryhards that fail on every attempt.
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>>16231110
ntrblog? it's not database
but it does archive most NTR-related shitfest including that iirc
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>>16231121
Yeah, that was it. Thanks for the spoonfeeding.
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>>16229521
I play eroge and I'm a normal person with a job and I've had girlfriends.
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>>16229521
I'm perfectly well-adjusted amd successful investiment banker, managed to start reading VNs when I realized I was intelligent enough to read novels in a language I never studied about. As my intellect grew I came to wonder what's the point of even existing, I guess it's the price of high IQ.
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>>16226916
This guy needs to draw more titty monsters
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Why do girls yell what''s happening to them during sex?
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>>16231388
From my experience, yes.
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>>16231388
Would you prefer the sex scene to just be ああああぁぁぁぁああああ over and over again? It's to make the scene interesting, of course.
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>>16231388
Because it's eroge.
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>>16231415
I want an eroge where the girl wants to talk about étale theta functions during the eroscenes. Is that too much to ask?
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>>16231415
I personally prefer moaning / mouth sounds over the fucking essays some girls give during ero scenes
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>>16231522
I think I speak for everyone here when I say that would be amazing, in fact I'm surprised Japan hasn't done it yet. Arithmetic geometry is such a common sexual fetish that the lack of proper erotic content surrounding it is appalling.
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>>16231415
Some specific seiyuu are actually very good at moaning (not shouting like most scenes) and they do better without dialogue. I wish this was more common.
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>>16231415

I'd rather have the VN 'tells' what the girl feels through described action, or better yet, shows what she feels with actions through variety of CGs. Like, instead of begging the MC to cum inside, the VN describe or shows her locking her legs when he fucking her missionary so that the MC can't pull out, or she starts to touching herself to show while being fucked to show that she's in ecstasy instead of her telling that her cunt feels good, or just slow, quiet fucking while kissing and holding hands, with the MC's thought about her soft lips, her hands entwined with his, how she's even more beautiful in this state, etc to show how romantic the intercourse is.
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>>16231660
Wow dude calm the fuck down with your vanilla, take that shit to /d/
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>>16229949
I have no problem with plot heavy VN (altought my japanese is still too shitty to read them), but why do we need almost an all girl cast in it if their side stories are irrelevant instead of a diverse (not in a SJW fashion) cast?
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>>16231660
The issue with narrative descriptions of the action is they're not voiced, and people fap better when the details are all explained to them by a soft cute girl's voice. And of course a variety of CGs for everything would be great, but for budget reasons it's not really realistic to expect them to switch CG for every action.
I do agree that romantic sex is great though, when the two of them swear eternal love and talk about how much they care for each other and how great the other one is in the middle of passionate intercourse.
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>>16230312
>Island

I have only read one route, but sex had no place in it whatsoever. It wasn't even really romantic. So no, it doesn't need ero. Because having ANY ero means automatically EVERY route needs x amount of scenes. No thanks.

I mean if eroge could get a bit away from this "standard", then yeah, sure. While at it you may as well explore the "steam" way of ero, as you may be able to still sell it without it being 18+. (I mean there sure is a huge difference between pixels and just not showing junk at all.. for "story" games at least) Dunno the laws in Japan there. Can see Sony still saying "nope", in which case.. well.. nope. Are there even naked boobies in any game on a Sony console? Or are they censored all the time, even when the PC version can have them. (i.e. Witcher I think.. I'm not exactly playing these games)
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>>16231660
(incoming semi-relevant complaint about romantic sex scenes)
あなたは既知感というモノを経験したことがあるだろうか?
The thing about all this "romantic sex", for me, is that as an experienced eroge player I've read literally hundreds of them. Maybe close to thousands since a lot of moege have so many H scenes... what, 8 per character, 4 characters, that's 32 per game. In any case, I've read a lot. Nowadays, when I read romantic sex scenes, I feel more tedium than anything, because it's all stuff I've read a lot before. Comedy can be fresh with new jokes, plots can be interesting with new devices, ideas can be expressed with new writing, but when it comes to romantic sex, all effort is tossed out the window and it's the same old same old as always. Locking legs? Begging to be cummed inside? Touching herself? Shit dude, I see that in frigging mindbreak porno, those are ridiculously played out. Romantic sex is just really, really tired to me. Rarely does it have anything new.

I find myself more interested in romance outside of sex, where love is about both characters ideas and personality and so on, rather than everything being focused on dick in vag, with meaningful dialogue largely replaced with moans and "sexy" spoken narration from the girl. Romantic sex is nice some of the time, but right now it's so fucking overused - like I said, each game doesn't just have ONE romantic scene, it has close to ten, there's so friggin much - that I can't find myself feeling much from it. I hardly would care if a moege or anything was all ages just because the scenes are so tired at this point. I would only find myself caring if the art is really hot, but that doesn't have much to do with romance.
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>>16232183
>I have only read one route, but sex had no place in it whatsoever. It wasn't even really romantic. So no, it doesn't need ero.
You mean Sara's? All the others have developing romance as a central point in one form or another. Rinne's even goes out of its way to imply they fucked off screen and for the route after it sex is especially important because the protagonist impregnates a character which serves as a major plot point later on, meaning the majority of the routes wouldn't be somehow worse off if they had ero other than losing the all-ages rating.
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>>16232538

Yes, Sara's. And that's fine. Again, this was only possible because it didn't need ero. Otherwise it would've been "needed" to be rewritten so it can feature its x mandatory scenes. Which is a very dumb thing if you ask me. So I'm happy they didn't force it. (Though I'm unhappy that they didn't voice the protagonist, and kinda advertised it in an "eroge" way of sorts.. but that's Frontwing for you)
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Anybody here read Koi Suru Kanojo no Bukiyou na Butai? Not a lot of information on the archive but I'm interested in a moege that has the balls to channel Shakespeare. Cute art too.
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>>16232848
>cute art

That's all it has. The theater stuff is horrible. Alone the idea to let the unvoiced protagonist participate and act is just.. no. But it's generally a mess.
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Any good VNs out there that have aspiring novelists or writers of actual literature as protagonists? I read Koikake and that was alright, but most of the other stuff tagged on vndb only have people in the literary club or manga/eroge writers as protags.
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>>16233127
but manga/eroge is the epitome of literature
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>>16233127
Bishoujo Mangekyou
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>>16233127
Asphyxia

It's an OELVN where the Romantic poets are bishoujos.
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Which version of baldr force is worth playing?
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>>16233127
Mikan
https://vndb.org/v5715
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>>16233159
>Samantha Taylor Coleridge
>Lillian Wordsworth
>>16233336
Excellent suggestion!
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>>16233350
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>>16233336
I wish Mikan got a full remake or something. The meta aspect and the characters starring different roles in the three stories are interesting, but the actual plots of stories themselves aren't that great. The limited save system is also crap due to how many flags the truer endings require.
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>>16233229
PS2
Improved gameplay + good VAs (and even if you don't like them you can switch back to the PC old ones)
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HRMM.

So I just bought myself a copy of Oyatsu no Jikan! But as soon as I run it, this pops up, and it closes the game when I press OK.

I'm admittedly a total newbie at this stuff, but I can't find any help regarding this game seeing as it's so obscure. :(
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>>16233938
>bought
>no gaijins allowed
This is why you never buy from fucking nippon
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>>16233938
Set your time and date settings to Japanese, see if that works.
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>>16233153
RENGE WHEN?!
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>>16233938
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B8yeS1BPHiMAMzg3NTE0MzctZmVjNC00NGNhLWFjNjQtNDE3NjkwYWMwNjY2&export=download
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>>16234012
I know, right? I honestly don't get this. Nowadays with DMM and DLSite having official English versions for the sole purpose of soliciting overseas sales for these games, it makes absolutely zero sense to still have these region locking guards in place. The weirdest thing to me is the developers that flat-out refuse to have their works even LISTED on the English sites. Like. Why don't you want my money?!

>>16234048
No dice, but thanks for the tip!

>>16234189
Now, you? You're the best. You're a real hero here. Thanks a bunch!
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>>16234233
They're scared of international laws
They're scared of anything non Japanese in fact
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>>16234233
Its not like they dont want your money, its just they are scared of laws and the other factors like the old rapelay shits. They'll sell only 20-30 copies at best anyway, why would they risk themselves for that?
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>>16234233
rapelay
western journalists cant break region locks
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How the hell are there a million Sono Hanabira games? They don't even have very good art for having its only selling point be cute yuri.
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>>16235072

How many yuri VN are there again? There you got your answer. Sono Hana is pretty shit. For all the ero CG those doujin games have, the ero still sucks (and is short as fuck). Story is also more an excuse for fast sex.

By now it's commercial and a bit better. Though it still still has shit porn. (in new generation each unique ero CG gets like 20 lines or some shit..) But at least it's quite serviceable as (short) yuri moege. New Gen's voice acting is mostly REALLY good and some of the girls are also pretty likable. Art sucks in that one though, but alas...
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Are there any VNs like Gurren Lagann or JoJo?
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>>16235434
Sure, there are a lot of yaoi VNs
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>>16235434
>Gurren Lagann
Demonbane
>JoJo?
Tsukihime
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Anyone playing this yet?
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>>16234264
this, it's not their fault they behave like that
it's burger's fault
fuck them
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>>16234137
NEVER EVER
SHE'S PURE, YOU DEGENERATE!
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>>16236134
It's both sides overreacting, both are at fault
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>>16227898
What game is this?
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Since it was brought up last thread, I checked out Magicha and it's pretty alright, though the story puts me to sleep
I'm especially liking Orietta's route. She's super cute and most of the events have Sharon and her glorious voice
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>>16235680
How can anyone unironically like NTRshit?
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>>16235680
What is even this? Google gave me nothing.
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>>16234264
I hate american ""journalism"" so much.
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>>16235680
I already finished it. It was alright for one fap. Cheerleader girl on top was the best for me.
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>>16237115
Title please...
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>>16237106
>>16237123
イロヨリドリ
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>>16237106
Did you even look at the image?
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Anyone able and willing to upload Ritterorden?

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ146618.html
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>>16237329
the fuck is this garbage and why is it 2700 yen
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Cute artstyle.
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>>16237629
The only thing cute about this are the uniforms. Faces are as generic as generic gets.
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>>16236575
Sakura mori dreamers
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>>16237635
Being generic doesn't mean it can't be cute.
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>>16237629
Only eyepatch girl looks like a qt really
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>>16237224
Fuck
Didn't notice the bubbles
>>16237129
Thanks
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>>16235680
>netorare
*thunder strikes*
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>>16237866
i like NTR senpai
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>no route
Christmas is ruined
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>>16237866
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>Non-blood-related Sister Heroine
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>>16232183
>Are there even naked boobies in any game on a Sony console? Limit gets pushed soo hard.
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>>16238791
There is always white mist or a band aid covering the privates.
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>>16238799
Last one.
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vitagen pls go

>>16238739
placebo
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>>16226916
Wanted to play トライアンソロジー maybe.
Has anyone here played it yet? I don't come here often..
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>>16239742
Country Girl has a perfect 田舎 feel, real ace
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>>16239742
Don't, it's a mega kusoge.
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>>16238805
We really need more thighs like that in eroge.
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>>16235680
>>16237115
Do the girls outfits and personalities become sluttier over time like thier previous games?
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>>16237115
if you actually read through it how long was it?
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Hey fellow JOPs.
I've been reading Kaigen Seito and saw this.
中から白木造りの一刀を
取り出す。
抜き放った。君は目を奪われる。
 それは見事な剛刀だった。
>白木造り
It's not actually a wooden sword, right? Otherwise it's ridiculous.

Also, what's with that "X is also Inoue's fault" meme? There are 100 of threads dedicated to it.
It made it to the game with alternative history setting, wtf?
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>>16242074
>threads dedicated
on 2ch
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>>16242074
Words generally tend to mean what they do. Unless it's some complex symbolism only clear in the context of the work.

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/112178/meaning/m0u/
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>>16242116
>巻藁を音もなく断つなど能うまいが、かの兇刀の後を襲っての
>石灯篭斬りなら成しかねない――そんな刀だった。
マジか。
I thought that it may have been about the scabbard. Otherwise, how do you know that this is 白木造り without >抜き放った it first.
Also, the wood is 5+ times lighter than the steel.
It doesn't make sense to say it's heavy compared to his other swords.
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>>16240651
It's pretty wordy but still under 10h.
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Take a guess at what this is supposed to read as
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I just wanted somoene to translate 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de, is this ask too much?
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>>16243776
yes
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>>16243776
i'll think about it
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i watched the rewrite anime and well really liked the new kaguri
i want to know are there any other girls like her type in eroge or what her type is called?
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>>16245516
*kagari
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>>16245516
>what her type is called?

It's called best girl. 
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https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/december-2016-eroge-releases/
This month looks amazing.
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>>16245590
Only really Akikuru. All the interesting stuff has been delayed to January.
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What is the name of the game in the OP please?
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>>16245659
クソゲデゴザイマス
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>>16245659
学校のセイイキ
It's bad
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>>16245659
https://vndb.org/v19302 you sick fuck.
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>>16245670
It's a nukige just like the other two games.
What were you expecting?
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>>16245702
I didn't expect anything, just noting it was bad. Even as a nukige.
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>>16245705
Well of course it is, instead of making コンビニのセイイキ like they should have according to the poll where Yaeka and the other one both lost to a character with no sprite and only appeared in a handful of scenes.
http://seiiki.jp/imouto/subhvkekka.html
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>>16245736
This still makes me laugh.
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Thanks @16245670 for the name. Yes, the reviews don't look good and I didn't realize it had a loli, so I'll avoid it; thanks anyways.
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>>16245786
>and I didn't realize it had a loli,
Sorry for the rudeness, but what the fuck man? She's a high schooler and not a loli in any way, she just has a very small cup size.
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>>16245799
American pigs think anyone with an A-cup is a child.
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>>16245839

Yes seriously. Look at this gorgeous 20 years old lady with twin-tails.
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>>16245590
Looks just as boring and bland as the some of the other months this year. Next month will be the good stuff.
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Definitely Akikuru, Shinsou Noise, Liber_7, Heart EXE for me.

Will probably give Amenity's Life, Ou no Mimi, Zannen na Ane and Honoguraki a try, but I have no hopes for these.
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If I want to buy a Japanes laptop to play VNs, is there a recommended place/one to buy
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>>16246302
if you're gonna buy a device solely for playing eroge, why not just windows tablet? you can get one for as low as 75 nowadays
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>>16246536
but I want to have the option of playing physical copies
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http://rewriteim.jp/
What the hell is this?

>>16246536
What's a good Windows Tablet?
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>>16246302
Trust me on this, you do not want a Japanese laptop. You'll be paying 50-100% more for worse specs (you have to go really high-end for a display resolution higher than 1366x768). I live in Japan and recently saved several hundred dollars by buying laptop from America and having it shipped halfway across the planet rather than buying one locally. There's a reason Japanese people don't play PC games, and it's because the PC hardware market here is bullshit.

At most, what you want is a copy of Japanese Windows, which should be easy enough for you to find. Though you don't really need that either.
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>>16246706
Is there a universal solution for tricking software into thinking that you're running a Japanese copy of Windows?
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>>16246797
Setting your clock to Japanese time will work for 90% of VNs that have the DRM, and NTLEAS / some cracks will work on most others. Really, there's no universal solution, but there's also a fairly small chance of it being relevant.
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I finished 世界でいちばんだめな恋, it was great. I've never read a VN before which handles a working adult MC so well, or one with an ex-wife as a heroine, or such a realistic depiction of age-gap romance. Why can't more VNs be like this?
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So what are the recommended computer specs for the average VN? Can you get away with integrated graphics?
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>>16246872
Maruto is a damn good writer, most VNs aren't written by actual writers with that kind of talent.
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>>16246600
>http://rewriteim.jp/

GET FUCKING  HYPED
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>>16246874
You can in the vast majority of cases, but I don't really recommend it since occasionally you'll run into one that's more demanding (e.g. Tokyo Necro), or you might want to play an actual game every once in a while. An AMD integrated GPU might be good enough, but Intel GPUs are pure cancer and should be avoided.
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>>16246996
Well they should be
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>>16247136
If they had that kind of talent they probably wouldn't be writing low budget, low revenue porn games in the first place.
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>>16246600
Depends on your need. My friend uses a Dell Venue 8 Pro to read VNs and watch anime on the bed and seems content with it, as that thing is quite light and small. Meanwhile I use a Surface Pro 2, which is fairly heavy and way more expensive but a lot more powerful.

If you want a really cheap tablet, go for a chink one to save your money. It should be plenty enough for most VNs if you don't do recording.
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>>16246874
I have a 3-year-old Asus K55A laptop (i3-3110M, 4GB RAM & Intel HD4000) and it runs every VN I install on it without any problem. Really, very few VNs actually make use of dedicated GPUs.
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>>16247120
I have a real computer if I need it, but for everything easier to run I'd rather have something portable.
>>16247224
I have a similarly old/weak laptop but it hangs on videos and sometimes on voiced lines.
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>>16247315
>I have a similarly old/weak laptop but it hangs on videos and sometimes on voiced lines.
Sounds like either your codecs or your HDD is fucked. You should re-check them. Most VNs don't hang that easily even if you run them on toaster PCs.
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>>16247487
>You should re-check them

How?
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>>16247507
For HDD check, see pic related. Healthy HDDs usually run consistently at 70-100MB/s. If it has moments of dipping to 3MB/s, it means you need a new HDD. If your HDD is fine, try reinstalling your codecs.
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>>16245786
>>16245799
I don't get what you get out of braindead exchanges like this.
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>>16247563
Yeah the hard drive dropped to about 1MB/s and sat there for a good 10 seconds before recovering, and even then it was steadily declining below 50MB/s

Was really hoping not to have to put money into this thing.
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Well shit, this is where the card system gets weird
Talk: MC flips out and runs away
Go to hallway: MC is confronted right in the room
The "bad" option kinda makes sense given the context, but it's still hilarious how neither really does what it actually says on the card

It was a really nice route, though I'm not a fan of the last day. I know it had to be that way so that the rewind magic can be introduced, but it still felt padded and most of the card choices felt like they were randomly thrown in so curious people can try to squeeze out more bad ends

I'm kinda used to nukige cum moege handing out porn at their whim so seeing a really clean route with just interactions, ichaicha and some drama was a pleasant surprise

On Steady Mode now and I'm actually enjoying it even more. Not-awkward Orietta is an absolute angel, her cat maid of crazy voice acting is still around, the conflict at the end of the route isn't discarded yet and the gay cards seem to have been gone
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>>16246872
Go read Parfait now
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>>16247771
Is Parfait the sequel of https://vndb.org/v682 ? Are you supposed to read them in order?
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>>16247837
They share a setting and some characters but they're not very related. It's no problem to play Parfait first.
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>>16247837
>Are you supposed to read them in order?
Nope, you can just read Parfait. Just like you don't have to read WA1 for WA2, completely different casts.
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>>16245516
seriously anybody?

is there a name for her type?
or other girls like her?
its a mix of things

funny
random
somewhat perverted
kuudere but more deredere and not as quiet
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>>16247885
This might shock an autist with no social contact like you, but intricate characters/humans can't be categorized into a "type". The things you describe are in pretty much every single eroge.
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>>16247597
Well it always goes down slowly, but under 20MB/s is where computers start bottlenecking. High bitrate videos are good for testing this since they need higher speed to load properly.
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New to /jp/, but wanted to ask:

Is there an English version of Kami no Rhapsody?
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>>16247911
And what makes you think this is the thread for that?
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>>16247911

Thread title. Go to >>>/vg/
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>>16247917
>>16247920
I got told from that place, to head over here. So, a bit at a lost.
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>>16227434
i like nijima
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>>16247947

We do have an eroge translation thread somewhere on /jp/. If you were sent to /jp/, then to there.
This thread is not the right place, as the title implies.
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>>16247911
Why would you even want to play that piece of shit?
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>>16248190

Is it? The story yes, but so is the story of stuff like Kamidori which a lot of people played.
The gameplay is fine. I suppose you can't really grind, which some may have disliked? Dunno. It was a pretty solid S-Rpg with a good evasion/shield system as well as level-up and customization system. The mana system was horrible, but eh. Eushully. They gotta fuck something up. The other stuff I played from them fucked even more up, so eh...
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whats this game called?
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>>16248362
いたいけな彼女
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>>16248362
Don't do it anon
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>>16248371
thanks
>>16248381
just want the name
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So this is a thesis about why lolis are the best, and at the same time most fearsome? Okay. This whole scenes is quite something.
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>>16248622
Wow dude, you've been in the prologue for 5+ days now. That's quite the feat.
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>>16248640
H-hidoi
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>>16248640

It's more like the first route. ~500kb. And that's what happens if it's not too enjoyable. Now there even is a shitty Kawashima Rino character. Just after things started to look more positive.

Well anyway, first route done. That's something. If I can deal with the new character, it may work out from now on. Shame you can't mute her separately. This.. will be annoying for me.
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>>16248362
This game broke my heart too much to be able to fap. It was just too messed up.
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>>16248739
>shitty Kawashima Rino character
Both the VA and character are great though. How can someone be born with this much shit taste at once
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I wanted to play some older VNs, namely さよならを教えて to start off. Now I don't even want to ask this but I can't figure it out myself apparently. How would I go about to do this? Disregarding that I can't even find a download. Can you run them on W7 or do you need some kind of program? And can I only find that on PD? Because that's no option for me.
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>>16248949

And all I wonder is how the hell anyone can like THAT Kawashima voice. I mean she has fine roles and all, but this.. type is just aggravating.

Well, there are more that got sick of her with the 10million roles she got in recent times. It happens.
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>>16249172
For PC98 games in particular, you need Neko Project II to emulate the NEC-PC98 of course. For windows games, you don't usually need programs, but many of them have sound errors among other things which need a little patching or what have you. I myself didn't have any issue running SayoOshi on W7 though others have reported no music playing.
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>>16249172
さよならを教えて recently had a new digital release
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>>16249172
>>16249195
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Domino/8282/
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>>16248856
There's nothing quite like fapping and crying at the same time, nukige-cum-nakige are the best.
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Today I came up with a cool idea for an eroge. But then an hour later I realized it's pretty much a rip-off of OreTsuba.
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>>16248739
>wanting to mute Kawashima
Fight me IRL.
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I don't get the appeal of Kawashima Rino
Her voice is bland as fuck
And her character usually just as bland as her voice
I don't mind if she just voice 女子A or something though
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>>16251537
She's not too bad if she's not cast using the exact same voice she uses in 99% of her roles.
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I always found sonohana mediocre because the plot developed way too fast and mostly was there for the sex which wasn't anything special.

But I wanted to scratch a yuri VN itch and I kept hearing about how this one was good. Not that I really hate the slow development but can these two fuck already???

It doesn't help that this is the first vn I read in Japanese and pretty much the first thing without furigana. I think I'm reading something like 5 times slower than I am in English so the wait seems even longer.

Well, at least the interactions are cute. All in all this is far more enjoyable than the other games of the series I've read so far.
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A-Aniki!
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>>16252575
Wrong thread
-> >>16252292
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>>16252657
It's not a learning tool.
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>>16252575
On Hongfire
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>>16252575
>>16252663
Learn Japanese, you subhuman.
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>>16226916
finished this, pretty much just sex and sex and sex
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>>16252817
Picked up.
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>>16251551

I totally agree with that one. You wouldn't actually know that she also voices the sister of Yayoi in Hapymaher. And she does that role rather well. I just got so tired of her "typical" one that is in pretty much all the other roles I know of her.
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Well that was a disappointment, even the 'NTR' ending seemed half-finished.

Fucking Atelier Sakura why can't you make something as good as 他の男の精液で孕んでもいいですか?3 again.
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How long are the Aqua/Asuka routes compared to Aries/2048 in Himawari?
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I've got a game telling me 'this product is only for inside of japan', but I'm already on jp region, is there something else I'm supposed to do?
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>>16253713

Your "being in Japan" feeling isn't strong enough. Channel your inner samurai soul. How do you think anyone else plays eroge?
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Every fucking time.
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>>16253854
I wish Heterochromia were as common in real life as in VNs.

I've only met a girl once ever with Heterochromia.
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>>16253894
She deceived you with color lenses.
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do you feel bad when theres two girls or more that you like and you have to choose only to see yourself missing the other girl when a pick a route for one?

why cant more games have a harem end?
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>>16254291
I'm not a retarded moebuta so no.
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Do you guys hate moe and like NTR or something?
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>>16254319
i like both

but only those two
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>>16254330
what about moe and ntr at the same time?
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>>16254291
Don't worry, heroines cease to exist once you're on someone else's route.
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>>16254347
the best
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>>16253894
in the real world, its an aberration and a sure sign of inferior breeding you goddamn pleb

why not look for cross-eyed women, or ones with flat feet while youre at it
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Anyone have an idea where I could find a torrent for プリンセスうぃっちぃず EXCELLENT version?
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>>16256109
Yeah.
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>>16256118
Okay.
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DJT wouldn't help me for some reason. What's the easiest Nitroplus VN?
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>>16256834
Anything written by this guy, take your pick
https://vndb.org/s222
Most people critique him for having interesting ideas but boring/simple prose so it should be good for your intents.
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>>16256858
Thanks. That's perfect for me because I always wanted to read most of those.
People say Totono is crap but I'll decide for myself.
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>>16256834
月光のカルネヴァーレ
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>>16256834
Saya no Uta's really easy, literally just 2 choices.
Most of them are pretty hard though, Totono has a series of difficult little memorisation questions you have get past to progress.
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>>16256834
sonicomi
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>>16256894
It's good, don't listen to the Moogydrones.
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>>16257291
Did Moogy really say Totono is bad? I knew he had shit taste but I didn't realise it was that awful. It's amazing.
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>>16257355
5.2 on the VNDB at least
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>>16257381
A bit of rating autism here but I really don't get why so many people give games they clearly dislike a 5 or a 6. 5 means "mediocre". It means the game isn't good or bad. It's just in the middle. There are problems with it, but enough positives that almost make up for them. In the end, plain average. FH is a game like that for me, for example, and there are many times I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>16257398
>>16257355
I was autistic enough to find this
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I see Dies Irae's setting was really well researched. Respect
>TUBAL CAIN. Of the various etymologies of this name, only one is given in the text; but most of the others in some way identify him with Vulcan. Wellsford (Mithridates Minor p. 4) gives a singular etymology, deriving the name of the Hebrew patriarch from the definite article ה converted into ת, or T and Baal, "Lord," with the Arabic kayn, "a blacksmith," so that the word would then signify "the lord of the blacksmiths." Masonic writers have, however, generally adopted the more usual derivation of Cain, from a word signifying possession; and Oliver descants on Tubal Cain as a symbol of worldly possessions. As to the identity of Vulcan with Tubal Cain, we may learn something from the definition of the offices of the former, as given by Diodorus Siculus: "Vulcan was the first founder of works in iron, brass, gold, silver, and all fusible metals; and he taught the uses to which fire can be applied in the arts." See Genesis: "Tubal Cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron."
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>>16257429
Incidentally, unlike this review, some of those essays on EGS are well thought-out and worth reading.
For example, http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=15929&uid=atak303
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Is Cross Channel just a poor man's Kusari Hime?


I feel like all the themes in Cross Channel are covered in Kusari Hime without being a bore to read for the first few hours. The school setting and first few hours of cross channel read like a light novel or a bad anime. I get Romeo is trying to set the stage for a decent into madness, and part of that is getting attached to these characters, but it all comes off a boring, Rewrite's school stage was much more interesting and the jokes and gags a bit more tolerable so he has gotten better at least. On the other hand I felt that Kusari Hime accomplished the same task of getting you familiar with the cast without such a blaring genre shift, and without the boring high school banter. Kusari Hime kept it self interesting by always subtly reminding you that you are reading a horror novel, something I felt was missing from Cross Channel.
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Does anyone have any impressions of 7'scarlet? I know its an otome game bleah yuck but scenario by deadly premonition and tokyo twilight ghost hunters guy made me wonder if there's anything good here.
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>>16257398
Because everyone is trying to judge things on the scale of "all VNs" and therefore the assumption is that if it was less than a 5 you wouldn't have picked it up in the first place.

Like for example I think I rated G Senjou no Maou my lowest with around a 5 and although it annoyed me the most out of VNs I completed, I am fully aware that it is not actually in the bottom 50 percent of VNs.
>>
Thoughts on MYTH?
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>>16258533
Mostly pretty bad, the writing, pacing and cast are horrible.
The setting had potential but it doesn't do anything with it
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Anyone that likes Senren Banka knows if its ever going to get a translation?
https://vndb.org/v19073
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>>16259803
Doubt it
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>>16259803
Why don't you ask in the translation thread?
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>>16258722
Are there any good visual novels? Sakura No Uta and White Album 2 are the only ones I can think of.
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>>16260037
no
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>>16258722
>Mostly pretty bad, the writing, pacing are horrible

That is every VN, name me a single vn with good pacing and great narrative prose.

Pro tip: you can't
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>>16260071
You must feel so smart writing this
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>>16260037

Of course not.
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>>16260037
everyge is kusoge
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>>16260037
I think a lot of VNs are good, but just not necessarily in a thoroughly literary way. Kind of like how not all genre fiction would withstand a literary eye but how they can still be really enjoyable reads. There's a lot of VNs that are fun and interesting, which I think makes them good.
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>>16260076
Thanks for proving my point. The fact is we read vns for the waifus and characters not for the quality of the writing and pacing. Not a single vn has excellent pacing or narrative prose.

>>16260149
This guy gets it.
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>>16260238
Well hold up, there's a glaring flaw in your post so terrible it destroys your point.
That is, the quality of the waifus and characters of a VN is *directly* related to the quality of the writing. Art plays a significant part, but writing is just as significant. A poorly written moege is terrible no matter how good the art is, but a well written - that is, comedic, enjoyable, lovable - moege is great.
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>>16260248
>the quality of the waifus and characters of a VN is *directly* related to the quality of the writing.

That is a huge assumption, and a false one. Take any Yuzusoft game for example, great characters, cute girls, lovable waifus, but uninspired stories, stereo typical settings, horrible pacing and poor narrative writing. I can go on and on with lists of games that have a great cast that are held back by mediocre storytelling and poor pacing PIC RELATED. Good voice acting, interesting character dynamics and decent dialogue can make lovable characters, but they don't always make for good writing.

It's also important to define what "good writing" is, and in my opinion, it's a combination of narrative prose, pacing, themes, dialogue, well defined character, and setting. In that order from most important to least important. The best of vns all have good dialogue, they have well defined characters and interesting themes, but without pacing (looking at you 50+ hour long VN that "gets good" 30 hours in.) and good narrative prose that is not painful to read (looking at Romeo and Ryukishi07), you can't call it "good writing."

I LOVE visual novels, but lets not sit here and pretend they more than junk food literature. We read vns for the cute girls, VERY few here would read a novel all about male characters even if it had excellent writing.
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>>16260397
>great characters, cute girls, lovable waifus,
Cute girls is the only true part in that.
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>>16260071
Name a single good book you read this year
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>>16260397
>I LOVE visual novels, but lets not sit here and pretend they more than junk food literature. We read vns for the cute girls, VERY few here would read a novel all about male characters even if it had excellent writing.
Yep, pretty much this.
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There is nothing worse than the Lit 101 faggots

You guys don't read any "literature" so stop it with the posture, it's pathetic
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>>16260449
Why not argue the points or show examples contrary to what is being said instead of crying like a moebuta.
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>>16260449
not those people but i enjoy both actual literature and visual novels, i don't see why people have it stuck in their heads you can only like one type of entertainment, they are considerably different and as such fulfill different needs

vns are not books or movies and as such don't have to follow their conventions about shit like pacing, and to judge them otherwise for this would be like criticizing a chair for not being tasty enough

but this boringly inoffensive and moderate opinion will accomplish nothing and convince no one, so carry on i guess
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There's nothing pretentious about wanting good writing. Every popular piece of written story needs it. Most dime novels have good writing.

Notice how good writing doesn't translate to good plot progression or even a good story. It just means it isn't a fucking drag to read.
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>>16260468
There is nothing to explain, you only use fallacious arguments like they are truths and generalize like retards.
Pretty obvious you have no education or knowledge beyond OMG Literature it has a L that must mean it must great
You are just a poser, a retarded one at that
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>>16260485
The irony in this post is delicious.
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>>16260484
If moebuta wanted better writing 99% of eroge companies would be out of business. People are happy with what they are getting, thankfully for people with taste SCA-自 will save us every few years.
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>>16260518
>moebuta
>people with taste
>SCA-自
Kek, SCA have written games with moe in the fucking title
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>>16260547
Moe and good writing are not mutually exclusive.
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>>16260482
But pacing is important in VNs. Baldr series has mostly great pacing for example and I think it's reasonable to assume it's part of the reason for its success. Pacing is important in every narrative, though the genre ("literary" or "paraliterary", pick your buzzword) obviously influences to an extent the appropriate pacing.
Other than that, I agree with you. There's a lot more that one could elaborate but it's pretty much a waste of time. Let people carry on with this laughable inferiority complex that the fiction they like is somehow inherently worse than anything "literary" as if it is even fair or sensible in the first place to expect the complexity or polish of a novel that took 10 years or so to be written.
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>>16260570
Not in this case
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>>16260397
What?
I think Yuzusoft games have terrible waifus so your whole post is really moot from that. The writing is so poor I find them nothing but dull cardboard cut outs.
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Does this thread get an influx of new posters every few months? Cause I don't understand what else could keep this tired debate alive.
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>>16260573
mmm, while i do love me some good pacing, there are some vns that want to create a sort of comfortable world to disappear into rather than tell a tight, focused story. they have deliberately slow pacing so that the reader can drink in the atmosphere rather than get carried along by the plot. novels rarely do this, but a lot of vns do.

it's just filling a different need. sometimes you want a tight, fast-paced story, sometimes you want a comfy 2D haven. this is an ambiguous second-person pov by the way, not you specifically.

yes perhaps arguments could be made the better paced stories are more memorable, and i might even agree with said arguments 100%. but there's a large subset of vns for which that simply isn't the point.

let us leave the value judgements of those vns aside however, i've no desire to go down that rabbit hole of a discussion and i suspect neither do you

>>16260590
it's not like either side of the debate ever ends up getting convinced
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>>16260590
on the contrary, I think it's always the same few people that argue about this garbage.
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>>16260573
It's no wonder they are poorly paced. Very little and often uninspired content needs to be stretched out to fill 30+ hours so it can be sold at full price. That's an insane amount of text compared to regular novels.

I guess it's fine if you just want a 2D heaven where nothing happens.
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>>16260637
>they have deliberately slow pacing so that the reader can drink in the atmosphere rather than get carried along by the plot.

They have deliberately slow pacing so that the author can meet a length quota. Let's not kid our selves.
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Why are VNs structured with a true route and the other heroine routes as spinoff side routes at the end of each chapter always the best?
Damekoi
G-senjou no Maou
Aiyoku no Eustia

VNs with regular heroine routes can't even compete.
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>>16260716
Very easy counterpoints:
Dies Irae
Muramasa
Fate Stay Night (hur dur memes)
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>>16260706
This, fucking this. There is nothing wrong with a 5-6 hour long vn that is packed with content and free of filler. Most of the great novels take less than 5-6 hours to read. Not only that these companies could pump out more stories more often with better quality. I don't need 30 hours of gags and "character building", most of it ends up as uninspired gag comedy with chibi figures that never becomes relevant to the story again.

Which is perfectly fine I love it, I just want less of it.
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>>16260727
>Fate Stay Night
The FSN routes are less about the girls and more about shiro and his beliefs, but what can you expect from chuunifags.
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>>16260716
Well the only games without true routes are moege, and of course moege are terrible. Most serious plotge are linear with random branches for porn to not bomb with the depraved otaku crowd.
>>16260727
What's the counter point? Routes in Dies are a negative. You're supposed to play them in a certain order, so it would have been better if it was linear/enforced.
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>>16260727
It's like you are trying to disprove your own point.
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>>16260734
Irrelevant point.
>>16260738
The counterpoint is that VNs structured with heroine routes being spinoffs at the end of each chapter are not always the best. There are good ones that don't do that, real good ones. And, note he didn't say enforced route order, he said one true route with spinoff routes.
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>>16260738
I'm starting to think your definition of moege is just "VNs which are bad". Damekoi is a moe game with some comedy and some drama, if you don't consider it a moege, then the only thing that are moege are pure moege without any drama. By this definition things like Fureraba are plotge.
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>>16260754
>Damekoi is a moe game
lol what
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>>16260754
>I'm starting to think your definition of moege is just "VNs which are bad".

People use the term incorrectly, they try to use is as a slur instead of being Representative of the art style, which is all moe is. If you take Dies Irae and make all the character moe, is it suddenly kusoge? No. Well most of the characters in DI are moe as fuck anyways so maybe it's a bad example.
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>>16260716
>Damekoi
I wouldn't really call Damekoi's heroine routes "spinoffs" as they're actually full-blown routes rather than excuses to have H-scenes like Leyline. Mitoko was a great heroine, but I found her own route pretty lackluster compared to others. Too much reused drama and scenes from Asami's and the actual, proper after route was frankly pretty stupid since they made her mother's disappearance be such a silly flimsy reason, all the characters who previously were against Osamu and Mitoko getting together were suddenly a-okay with it and the new convenient irredeemable bad guy character serving as a drama excuse that also gets conveniently solved. Himeo's route was miles better.

>>16260757
Regardless of dealing with more adult stuff as well like having a voiced salaryman protagonist and all the things that go with such a setup, at its core it's still mainly romcom / drama with heroine focused routes that are not so inherently different from other heroine focused moe games.

>>16260738
>Routes in Dies are a negative. You're supposed to play them in a certain order, so it would have been better if it was linear/enforced.
Aren't they enforced already though? Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least you shouldn't be able to enter Marie or Rea's routes from the get-go if I recall correct.
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>>16260812
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least you shouldn't be able to enter Marie or Rea's routes from the get-go if I recall correct.
You are correct.
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>>16260770
Moege is a lot more than the art style, wtf are you even saying?
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>>16260812
I'll agree the last two chapters of the true route were not the strongest part of the game, but that doesn't make Toko's route lacklustre, because the whole game is her route. Remember that at each route split, the reason you don't choose the other heroine is because you're devoting yourself to Toko and prioritising her over these other girls. Remember that she gets consistent scenes, CGs, focus, drama across the entire game, rather than being demoted to a side character outside of her section. The best scenes in the game were Toko's, and just because they weren't at the final climax of the VN doesn't diminish how great they were.
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I dunno why you guys are arguing so much about silly things here. Just play great eroge, like I do, and relax.


This post may contain a certain nuance of irony.
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Opinions on Last Cavalier?
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>>16261456
i too enjoy some me good writing
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>>16261486
Good if you like history.
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>>16261489
Holy cow her eyebrows.
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>>16261500
What if don't know shit about Bakumatsu, aside from knowledge from Rurouni Kenshin?
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>>16261544
The game does a good job at explaining stuff to you, but I still recommend at least skimming a wikipedia article beforehand so you can see where the game moves away from real history to fiction.
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>>16261516
look at her name, this is what quality writing is
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>>16261565
http://mao.sub.jp/bgd_h.htm

kek
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>>16261561
Ok, thanks.
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>>16260484
Bad plot progression or a bad story can make something a drag to read just as much as bad writing can.
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What are some of the best VN OPs, from a video sequence standpoint?
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there are people who thinks good writing is a reason to play eroge instead of a mere bonus kek
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>>16261831
Aside from the games themselves, Yuzusoft's games often have good OPs as they hire a doujin animation group to fully animate their OPs.
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>>16261831
Innocent Grey have some good ones
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>>16261831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX36IwVrxSU
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>>16261831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0q7AJNgbtk
I really like this one.
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>>16261952
That looks really good. I don't think I have ever heard of that game. How is it?
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>>16261967
I wish I knew. Last time I checked all the links were dead.
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Does anyone here know the encryption key to decrypt the nscript.dat file in kimi ga aruji. All discussions from years past are dead and they sites they were on aren't archived. Closest I've gotten is finding someone saying to apply bite wise xor key 0x84 but the key doesn't work.
Copy of thread of guy claiming to have started a translation :
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/12073883
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>>16261565
>>16261577

These BGs are in Himawari too. I don't know what's going on.
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Are there any horror vn writers as good as Otsuichi? I know Ryukishi07 is hated here but I was thinking about reading Iwaihime. Looking for some hardcore horror.
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>>16261952
Wow I agree that looks interesting.

>>16261985
If you find it make sure to post here. I'd definitely be interested enough to give it a try after that OP.
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>>16262214
Ryukishi07 is only hated here by a small but loud group of autists.
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>>16261831
The ones makoto shinkai did for minori.
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>>16262973
Those are amazingly done but I think everyone here has seen them by now.
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https://rewriteim.jp/

It really was a mobile game.
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>>16263099
I'm honestly kind of pissed. As much as you fags like to shit on tled stuff, I loved Rewrite, this is how it ends? Not like this, Key... Not like this...
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>>16263099
>>16263123
It's where the money's at.
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>>16263123
We still have the anime next season, it's not over yet.
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>>16263136
We'll see, honestly this is such a blatant, souless cash grab I wouldn't be surprised if people stayed away in disgust
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>>16263147
The sad thing is the severs will be shut down in a year. Honestly the tease for this was a cruel joke. Just let good IPs lay.
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>>16262160
When you don't have enough budget/artists that can actually draw, decent looking backgrounds, you might as well use free ones from the internet.
It's better than the old "take a photo and murder it with photo-shop filters" things like Tsukhime and age's first game did.
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>>16230082

I don't care which, but I wish it would have just picked one or the other. The end result was a half-ass in both directions and came off like they just wrote a moege and dropped a bunch of plot on top of it with no consistent tone.

Senmomo was disappointment of the year for me.
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>>16233336
>>16233395

Mikan was awesome and deserves more attention, I picked it up randomly and seriously enjoyed what they did with it. Well, outside of the second B-Movie-tier 館モノ story.

Probably my favorite eroge focusing on metafiction, I wish I could find something else like it. Extremely impressive when you consider it came out as early as it did.

On another note, has anyone else read anything from the other two writers involved (not Shumon)? I honestly liked all the text in the game and I'd like to check out more of them but there's barely any information on their other work since it's all so old.
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>>16263422
By the way who are the writers who work at August?
I can only find information about Sakakibara Taku but the other two seem completely anonymous to me. Aren't they just pen names?
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>>16261486

Literally feels like you are reading a history textbook at many points. Maybe there are some people enjoy that amount of 薀蓄 but I was not one of them.
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>>16260238
>the quality of the writing doesn't reflect in the caracter

not that guy but what the fuck? good writing usually means good character. they're written words after all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV9NsVz6aeo
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>>16263579
Awful art style with bolt on tits.
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>>16263466
I've seen the possibility mentioned. Sakakibara is one of the founding members of August, but the other ones appeared and repeated in later games. It's possible they're just pseudonyms used for whoever writes together with Sakakibara at each game.

On the other hand I saw people talk about August's trio of writers like they're a set group. Perhaps even in August interviews, but I'm not fully sure now.
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>>16262140
http://asmodean.reverse.net/pages/decrkansa.html

This doesn't work? There might be a difference between the 2011 and 2007 releases. Upload all .exe, .dll files and the nspack and I'll see into it but don't hold your breath.
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>>16265072
nscript I mean
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>>16263594
Well of course.
You can't expect Akabei to actually afford decent artists when all those terrible chinese and foreign pirates are literally robbing them of trillions of sales, do you?
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>>16261565
what the fuck, that little bit of hair over her finger implies some very non-euclidean geometries at work here
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>>16263123
what did you want honestly? The main story feels complete and it even got a fandisk.
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>>16265324
>all those terrible chinese and foreign pirates are literally robbing them of trillions of sales
But the gorillions
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What is the VN equivalent of the 3-episode drop rule for Anime?
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>>16267172
If you don't like the OP song, drop it.
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>>16267172
If the HCG doesn't make you diamond, drop it.
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>>16267172
There's a distinction here.
If you're reading VNs out of raw entertainment, just as fun ways to kill time, then dropping a VN after feeling bored for a while is fine. After all, if you're bored then there's no point. With moege, dropping after you finish your favourite heroine routes is fine.
If you're reading VNs on a more... serious level, like going in expecting experiences and stories and that kind of thing, I think finishing at least one route to is important, because a lot of really well written stories can have a slow start. If you finish a whole route and don't feel it was worth the time it rarely is worth it to continue.
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>>16267304
>If you're reading VNs on a more... serious level
lol
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>>16267172

The idea behind this with anime is because first episodes are usually made for "gathering attention" and establishing the setting and situation, so they aren't really representative for the overall work. Which can be good or bad of course. So watching 3 episodes usually means you see how the "normal" episodes will be like.

With VNs such a thing doesn't really exist. There is no episode format, so how long the introduction is, depends on the work. It's part of the charm of the medium really. No need to rush and establish everything within 1-2 episodes.
Unless it's way too terrible, you probably want to read until you know the general situation and concept as well as at least some characters. (some do introduce some heroines/characters rather late, so all aren't necessary.. otherwise you'd be reading something like Konosora like 10 hours or so just to see if it's for you..) Some VN play the intro afterwards, which is a nice sign actually. Not all though. Some do this at the very beginning or whenever really..
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>>16267172
If you can't stand the character design and/or voice acting, drop it.
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What is the quote that the girl is saying in Subahibi after the scene where you first meet Zakuro?
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>>16267172
If you close the vn and have no desire to reopen it, just uninstall it.
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>>16267304
>VNs on a more... serious level,
AKA, reading shit you don't like just because some internet personality said it was good, or because it's popular

VNs are not like books or film, you are not going to amaze anyone with your knowledge on vns. No bitches are dropping their panties because you read Muvluv and Dies Irae.
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>>16267626
I'm not sure why you treat the idea of reading VNs seriously with so much hostility.
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>>16267626
>I read Dies Irae
Haha what a loser
>I read Crime and Punishment
Anon you're so cool let's have sex right now
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>>16267172
Who the hell watches anime?
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>>16267648
>He doesn't discuss The Federalist Papers with hot chicks
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>>16267721
Those are essays, not books
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https://vndb.org/v18651
How hard is this game to read?
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>>16267841
Its difficulty level is not notable
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It's okay to admit you like your hobbies and think things are good.
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>>16267841
Looks easy to me.
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>>16267841
i'm playing it now there's nothing difficult about it
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>>16267917
How is the pacing and narrative?
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>>16267920
>68 EGS score
Not good
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>>16267920
just picked it up again after putting it on hold because i was playing too many games simultaneously and haven't finished a route yet. that said, the pacing seems good, narrative could use some work but is what you should expect from this type of game
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>>16260071
Hanachirasu

For a short game, it sets up an alternate history, details 5000 different sword tactics, depicts the decline of two factions, has loads of black humor, and tells a story of obsessive vengeance.
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>>16267626
That's only because you're not selling the VNs correctly.

You should say: "I read an obscure medium of Japanese Literature that is only perpetuated in by a subculture rebelling against the establishment of traditional values. This mode of interactive fiction contains elements of movies, books, and music as well. As Marshall McLuhan said, every new medium will appropriate elements from the previous medium, and thus this special literary medium that stems from Japan fits in with McLuhan's vision of technological progress. For example, one such author, named Mareni, utilizes and revives Japanese traditions and maintains the beauty of the language in exquisite quality. His works are like the finest wine coming from the oldest cellars, but lovingly mixed with a touch of contemporary flair. Alas, although I have read Wittgenstein's Mistress by David Markson, and The Broom of the System by David Foster Wallace, I have seen a Japanese writer appropriate the philosopher's ideas with such verve and candor so as to move my heart immensely moreso than such morsels of Western culture."
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>>16257929
Cross Channel isn't merely a denpa horror novel. I don't think Kusari Hime deals with building up the themes of Communication as well as C+C.

One of the parts I remember was when Taichi was trying to woo Misato and the choice asks you whether you want to build a better relationship or not, or something like that. If you choose the contrary option, Taichi gives a grandiose and exaggerated confession. On the other hand, the other option causes him to approach her in a more subdued and roundabout way. Many of the jokes that Taichi pulls have character subtext, since he purposely makes a fool of himself to distance himself from others, always keeping a comedic distance. I don't think Kusari-hime has as much nuance with that regard as Romeo, even though Meteor is still a good writer.
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>>16260711
Who cares?

Sometimes length quotas can develop inspiration. Dickens & Dostoevsky were length quota authors. Evangelion's ending was developed by budget problems.

Attempting to judge the circumstances of the author separate from the work itself is committing the intentional fallacy. Some works are good at developing a slow pace & mood, and other works aren't. Some works use it for a specific purpose, and other works are filling in for space. A discerning consumer is the one that can see which work utilizes it well and which work doesn't.
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>>16267920
Just play the common route and the misaki route, the other heroines route are really bad. That being said, I cried like a bitch in the epilogue. That final scene was really powerful.
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>>16268570
Why
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>>16268570

tl;dr: No anal sex today?

She could've worded that shorter.
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>>16268570
That sounds just like me.
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>>16268357
"Ah, you wish to view for yourself an example of this literary art, so as to also appreciate the eloquent craft of this truly superlative medium? But of course: >>16268570 . Is it not the pinnacle of human achievement?"
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>>16268948

You haven't seen anything yet. There's way better stuff in this medium.
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>>16268357
where does The Broom of the System fit in with Mareni? I realize if your tongue was any farther in cheek it would be poking out the other side but genuinely curious here, I unironically love DFW's stuff.
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>>16267917
I thought this was just a meme that a single anime made. So it's really a common joke in Japan?
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What are the best nukige with gameplay? I would've asked in the nukige thread but it died.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO5QA_SNXdA

New eroge by the writer of Kamimaho, hype!
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oh shit, I like that writer a lot. this is some great news.
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>>16270090
Damn, I'm hyped. I was getting worried since I haven't seen any news from them at all.
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>>16268570
What.

Nice.
I've read this a few months ago: http://novel18.syosetu.com/n8819by/
My crotch has light reflection abilities since then. The whole "I have a bad case of hemorrhoids nii-chan" does not last that long and is pretty funny actually.

Well I hope someone uploads this next C91. Nice that it got an adaptation.
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>>16270631
I'll buy it once it's available on dlsite because it's going to be pretty cheap, so I might as well do it then.
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>>16270635
You are a gentleman.
Kana best girl
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>>16270083
Rance of course
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New

>>16270858
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>>16268570
I like some realism in my games, but not that kind.
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Guys I'm old time mac user and I finally bought a windows 10 computer today so I can play VNs but I'm having some trouble. Applocale doesn't work, Locale emulator won't let me modify the region profile. What do?
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>>16271948
Install a windows virtualbox in Japanese locale.
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