Elona

Are there actually any good bows out there? I used one for a long time then realized the damage was pretty bad after a while. Switched to a unique repeating crossbow and the damage is way better.

How do you call hunting down a adventurer for the better part of a year because a oracle scroll said he had the mechanical lure and thus he had to die for the glory of Ehekatl (and laziness because screw buying actual bait) and when you finally track him down after a Benny Hill-esque chase along the entirety of North Tyris and kill him in a duel turns out he doesn't have it anymore?

>>16221319
Hard Target

Is this a bug of some sort? When I identify all my items, it treats any miracle and above item as a normal item, so I only have to pay for the cost of a normal identify for that item rather than have to pay for an investigation to ID it.

>>16221387
Also, why is my little girl so retarded? Why is she quaffing potions I gave her when there's absolutely no hostilities going on?

>>16221293
As far as static artifacts go, you don't really have many options as a bow or crossbow user. Since you're asking for bows, Rainbow, Heltiarre, and Dokuro-Mikaduki should be looked at. If none of those appeal to you, you may want to consider trying to aim for a living bow, using a material kit, and leveling it with things you think make for a good bow.

>>16221319
Makes me wonder if it's one of those no drop precious items or if adventurers trade or get rid of things when their inventory is full. Did you check his inventory before you dueled him to see if he has it? Maybe you need to pickpocket it.

>>16221407
Checked the inventory first, didn't have it, killed him out of spite anyway.

So I gave an NPC a rotted version of the food they wanted for a quest. He then died from food poisoning. What the hell? Are they that weak? Also, is he dead permanently?

>>16221399
When you give a pet something consumable they think that you want them to consume it. You can give them a stack all at once and they'll only consume one item of the stack and just hang on to the rest. It goes without saying but pet AI has and is still being worked on. Custom at least made the pet AI better at combat. You certainly can give the pet consumables to hold onto just expect her to take from the pile as payment for you treating her like a mule. A better solution is to just drop stuff you don't need at home or use the 4th dimensional pocket spell or that one mirror object that acts like the spell.

>>16221516
I don't care to treat her like a pack mule and she can't carry all that much extra anyway. I want her to use them in a fight if she's getting fucked so she doesn't die, desu.

>>16221387
I noticed that when I tell him to identify all of my stuff that there are random items he can't seem to identify without investigating. Doesn't even need to be godly or precious as I've seen even miracle things not identified with the identify all option.

It's either a bug or wizard guy is merely using scrolls to identify your stuff and he runs out of the regular identify scrolls. For him to tap into the greater identify scrolls you need to pay him to "investigate". A third option is Yacatect appeared before all the wizards instructing them on how better to fleece their customers.

>>16221523
What you want I don't think is possible at the moment. Maybe you can put that as a suggestion on Anna's blog or forum post on the wiki since she's the creator of Elona Custom and has been tweaking pet AI. Right now you'll need to either hand her potions one at a time when they need it, use alchemy rain, or cast healing rain to heal pets.

>>16221493
NPCs eventually respawn. It may take awhile though.

>>16221578
i suspect that individual items have individual identify thresholds, possibly based on the power of the item's enchants
you don't notice it with id scrolls since they have a fixed power, but with the spell it's pretty evident
mine gets like 95% of miracle and 50% of godly, and when the godly is id'd the enchantments are usually trash

>>16221621
Or just throw the potions at her. That's what I normally do.

>>16221493
you can avoid that by walking/escaping out of the map before the NPC finishes to eat and re-enter

playing Elona for the first time here
>inb4 read the controls page
Does Dark Souls get their boss names from here?
"Moaning Sinner", "Guardian of Virtue" I get these are just words stuck together, which sometimes results in funny names, but sometimes they feel very Dark Souls like

Phew! This 15 instruction limit for the Custom AI is becoming a pain to deal with, especially when resistances and buffs come in to play (fucking Grass Dancers get out reeeeeeee).
I wouldn't mind having another 15 instructions to work with but i can see how that would become slightly OP (or underused) pretty fast.

So, if the creator of Custom ever reads this, i'd like to propose a slightly different system for the AI, assuming the original maker or whoever decides to collaborate or continue the project can work it out in the game.

1: the variety of instructions is much more expanded, still simple to understand but similar in power to a almost full fledged scripting language.
2: much more space for instructions, even infinite if possible
3: the amounts of lines of code a pet can read every [TIME] is equal to a fraction of the learning stat (so a long program will take the pet much more time to parse than a simple "go there, hit stuff, repeat")
4: the [TIME] could be either every turn (would need pets with high speed a fuckton of LER to properly execute) or every action (that would make SPD too strong in the calculation) or some combination of the two (SPD/10?)

Dunno, just throwing it out there.

How come nobody ever votes for the player when werewolf attacks and assassinations only happen when they're in town? Somebody's bound to get suspicious sooner or later.

>>16221319
Soooo...

How do you call hunting down a adventurer for the better part of a year because a oracle scroll said he had the mechanical lure and thus he had to die for the glory of Ehekatl (and laziness because screw buying actual bait) and when you finally track him down after a Benny Hill-esque chase along the entirety of North Tyris and kill him in a duel turns out he doesn't have it anymore?
And then you go to your house and realize you had one all along?

>>16221523
Give her first aid kits
Pets only use them at low health, build them with whisky, a washing, and a healthy leaf.

I typically spam healing rain and throw soma/jure potions at pets.

File: Derphy.jpg (233KB, 1284x773px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 1284x773px

What is going on with the prostitutes in Derphy? I was looking for a vendor to invest in to raise charisma but ran into a prostitute and was shocked at the price of her services. I went around and saw that it's not just her charging around 46k for a fling but the rest of them charge that as well. I could of sworn prostitute prices were only in the hundreds several game versions back.

These prostitutes are really cheeky. There's adventurers out there keeping the world safe clearing dungeons not making nearly as much as these prostitutes. She really expects that if she spreads her legs for one night to be set for life? My character's mother Yuki always told me to stay away from Derphy women. Thanks mama Yuki.

>>16223583
I'm not gonna lie, I myself am a prostitute, a VERY expensive one in fact. I invest a lot in all the shops, then I get the money back by "investing" my body.
I remember this one time where I got 100k from a single shopkeeper in Larna. She was insane for more than one day and I was considered a criminal.

Where do you guys find fanart? Do I have to look it up on pixiv in Japanese or something?

File: 60171852_p0.jpg (243KB, 947x644px) Image search: [Google]

243KB, 947x644px

>>16223859
pixiv tags for the game are just "Elona" and "elona".

File: Capture6.png (266KB, 622x414px) Image search: [Google]

266KB, 622x414px

What should I be looking for in my gear as a new character? Is a 6dv, 1pv, 3 perception gain worth losing fire resist#? Is it cheaper/easier to get certain things from particular types of gear? What's the relative value between dv, pv, resist, stats, etc...?

In customizing AI, whats a good default command that most AI will follow so I dont get that "doesnt know what to do" message?
I feel like I'm missing something. Yeah I read the guide.

how the FUCK do I use an altar?

>>16224526
For armor, you want PV, DV, immunities and resists on all your gear although I would say resists and immunities(stuff that negates stuff or allows you to see things that are invisible) are more important to have. Attribute bonuses and enchants that improve your skill are nice to have but not necessarily important. Depending on what your character is, enchants that increase your chance for extra melee/range attack or enhances spells are just as important and noteworthy to have as resists and immunities. The maintain stuff is nice but not necessarily important to have.

Definitely be the lookout for the above and take advantage of the blacksmith when you find something worth upgrading. You can get +2 to PV and DV each time you upgrade your armor piece through the blacksmith. Since the max upgrade is +10 that's a nice +20 to both PV and DV on top of whatever the armor piece was giving. Also pay attention to the material of the armor piece as certain material pieces guarantee certain things on armor. For instance, armor pieces made out of glass give bonuses to speed which is very hard to raise for players starting out and may be a material type to look out for. Here's the wiki page for more info on material type.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment

I wouldn't sweat the gear differences of the two you're comparing at the moment. Both pieces don't seem really notable so wear whatever you want as you won't see a drastic improvement to your survival. When stuff improves your PV and DV by 10 or more points and the resists are at #### or better then you can start worrying about comparing gear.

>>16225195
Hit spacebar. Might want to take a look at the controls page on the wiki.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Controls

>>16224604

At the penultimate position, for a melee pet, (if, target, distance > 1, move forward.)

At the very bottom, put (if, target, distance = 1, attack melee )

>>16225526

He's likely referring to the minor intrinsic bonus that metal objects give to resistance; early game, the minor resistance bonuses really need to be stacked up (like say, wearing a full outfit of the same material) to really matter, and a minor stat increase is significantly more important as it makes up a larger percentage of your stat total wheres your BST is can be as low as single digits. I would probably swap out for the perl gear, as the higher stats indicate that this particular piece of gear is probably of a higher quality rating than what you were wearing before. One thing to keep in mind however is what your dominant armor class (light, medium, heavy) is and how your equipment effects that class: my character is best served wearing medium armor, but whenever he equips either both his ranged weapon or the Axe of Destruction, it puts him into the heavy class, forcing me to leave one or the other unequipped if I want to make the most of my defensive capabilities.

Above all, traits that make you immune to certain status effects (blind, poisons, ect.) are the most desirable, followed by pure magic resistance and elemental resistances after that. By default, the basic breastplate (not the "breast plate" with a space between it) grants immunity to fear, which allows you to fight the otherwise annoying ghost-type monsters effectively early game where not being able to attack could lead to a death sentence, or at least a reason to retreat.

>>16225784
Wizards of Elea are currently my biggest foe, they kill me in two hits from full health. I have a -# magic resit mutation and have had no luck finding a potion of cure mutation, so that might be part of it. I think it's nerve bolt or chaos bolt, but I haven't seen much gear with those resists, none of it usable because of negative enchants. I've only run into one invisible enemy so I'm not too concerned with them yet, but I'll hold on to anything that gives that. I'm a gunner so fearful/confusing/paralyzing touch isn't an issue for me, but my little girl could use poison immunity.

Speaking of gunning, is there any way to prevent my ranged attack from targeting friendly and neutral npcs? In melee I displace instead of attacking, but it's a pain to manually check my target any time a cat or little girl is on screen to make sure I'm shooting only things that are a threat.

>>16227365
press *, move the highlighted square over your intended target and press enter, now you are targeting that entity

>>16227418
I know, it's a pain in the ass. Is there a setting that will stop the game from automatically targeting npcs which are not hostile?

>>16228375
NO

should I be eating herbs or using them in food?

Also I have a lot of curarias but it won't let me herb-in them?

>>16228638
Herbs are OP for stats training , just eat them.

>>16228638
herb in the rare herbs, you'll have a big surplus of curariaa and especially stomafilias, so eat those freely

A bit of an odd question , what do you guys value more roleplay or optimal play ? Ex. 4-dimensional pocket is extremely usefull but i wont use it since my character isnt a mage.

>>16225784
Not exactly, I'm trying to figure out the gear metagame.

For example in Diablo 2 a glove was considered good if it had class relevant stats and either +all skills (for casters) or +attack speed (for attackers) and at least one of resistance, cast speed, accuracy, or +damage. Lifesteal or cast on hit of slow, weakness, decrepify, amplify damage, life leech, lower resist (rabid werewolf druid set only) or any aoe damage spell (especially ice ones) made it god-tier gear.

For armor you wanted something with as much armor and resist as possible, stats appreciated. If it also gave a useful aura, physical resist, or +max resist (only duriel's shell iirc) it was very very good.

>>16225526
Thanks. How do resistances scale? Is more always better, is there a hard max or does ROI decay exponentially? How much resist should I have by level 15? 30? Will I find better gear dungeon diving, investing in blacksmiths or trading with npc heroes?

>>16228663
I found something called scalework sage, desc implied it was an herb but I couldn't eat it and found no info on the wiki. Was that a rare herb?

>>16229283
Scalework, glasswork, etc items are furniture.
Herbs are another thing, curaria, morgia, stomafilia, alraune, etc, those you can eat.

Also bad, good, great, miracle and godly equipment refer to how many modifiers it has and how strong. They can be negative though.

>>16223583
Made a new/test character to quickly verify whether I imagined the prostitutes only costing hundreds of gold in the past. Seems the new character only had to pay 400 gold. Guess there's some formula at play and the amount you have to pay might scale.

Deleted the test character and have come to the conclusion that Mama Yuki wasn't kidding about gold digging whores in Derphy. She'd probably throw me through a couple of walls and beat me to a bloody goo if I decided to raise will, constitution, and charisma by soliciting prostitutes. Get a firm lecture on how I should raise those attributes through wholesome means and not to bring shame to the Kai household.

>>16228805
I don't value one over the other although I guess I can say I'm building my character to be optimal however my pets tend to be built with roleplaying in mind.

This game seems to reward players a lot for getting good at a variety of skills and I've tapped into that with my character. My pets on the other hand come into existence through role playing and tend to be more specialized to fit the idea imagined. Like my character is a master martial artist and the thought that most master martial artists take on students came to mind. So that eventually lead to me creating a my martial artist student/pet which focuses exclusively on that.

>>16228638
Need two different piles of curarias in order to use curarias as a base. I tend to split the single stack in half by dropping half to the ground and blessing the other half in my inventory. Pick up the curarias on the ground which will lead me to having 2 different curaria piles. There's other ways to separate the stack and make two different piles though that other anons have mentioned in threads past.

>>16229283
I'm not sure if there is a cap to resists as I certainly haven't hit it yet but I know for sure that resists go beyond superb#####+. Above that level it's best to use the object of heart item and track resist by class level. It's also worthwhile to stack certain resists as much as possible too. Stack enough resists in sound and you eventually become dim immune, mind and you become immune to insanity and can face tank yith creatures, and stacking as much fire/magic resistance is important if you want to cast meteor and not kill yourself. Depending on how powerful the source is, you may need to keep stacking resists. I suspect stronger monsters in the void may one day overcome my dim and insanity immunity so I might need to stack more of those resists as well.

Your goal should be to get at least superb#####+ in everything as soon as possible. However, when you get that boils a bit down to RNG and what your character can do. For instance, it's much easier to prop your resists up if you can cast spells.

Trading with adventurers and having luck in finding good gear through dungeon diving certainly helps. There's other things you can do as well.

When I started playing as my martial artist/hybrid my first god I went with was Itzpalt. Not because I wanted to work on the casting side of my character but because if you worship him you get bonuses to your fire, cold, and lightning resist. The amount of that bonus is dictated by how much favor you have with Itzpalt so the more rods you bring to him the more those resists will be boosted. So I made sure to collect all the rods I found in dungeons, bought all the rods I found off of vendors, and would sometimes craft rods through carpentry to give to Itzpalt. It's completely possible to have superb#####+ resist through Itzpalt's bonus despite having nothing equipped if you garner enough favor with him. One of Itzpalt's god rewards is a staff that gives good resistances as well. If you're a wizard go ahead and equip the staff in one of your hand slots and if you're a warrior like character just equip it in the shoot slot.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elemental_Staff

As you can imagine, the problems with fire, cold, and lightning hounds, as well as certain wizard like enemies, that newer players tend to face didn't really affect me much.

There's also static artifacts you should aim for that will grant you some resistance. Some of these artifacts you get by simply going through the story such as the Palmia Pride, Ring of Steel Dragon, War Suit, etc

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Palmia_Pride

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ring_of_Steel_Dragon

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/War_Suit

There's also other static artifacts you can track down to help your resists such as the Gloves of Vesda

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Gloves_of_Vesda

If you can cast spells casting the resistance spell/attribution shield is great because it gives you resistances in everything except pure magic. The amount of resistance you get and how long the spell lasts is based on its level so make sure you level it.

Lastly, don't forget you can craft gear using tailoring. Put the materials you've gathered from resource nodes in dungeons and from scrolls to use.

>>16228805
I keep a character theme in mind, if I make a ranger I stick to bows/guns, if I make a warrior I try my best to stick to melee, but if there's something overtly useful to gameplay to make it not a chore i'll gladly use it.

Just fluff it like you have one of those artifact mirrors that doesn't run out.

File: 31224556.jpg (908KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

908KB, 1024x768px

Shena!!!!! What the hell did you get me involved in?!!! Also why do I feel like I'm the useless sidekick while the little girl is the main character that can kick ass.

>>16230335
Just wait until you get a nice party. There is one bitch in mine that just teleports around killing everything and stealing my AP. Then there's the vampire gunner who managed to decapitate almost all bosses.
Be careful, Anon. Pets are demons.

>>16230335
This doesn't change. I've kept my little girl all the way from the very beginning and turned her into a Valkyrie. She fucks shit up.

File: elona5.png (518KB, 1275x763px) Image search: [Google]

518KB, 1275x763px

On the note of little girls, is there a way to tell what their health is? I haven't noticed any way to, and it would be nice to be able to tell a bit maybe. Other than the "is badly hurt!" and such log messages which I may sometimes miss due to trying to speed my way through combat a bit.

My biggest problem is her dying, as my character is a big ranged type and she has been dying more as I've been trying to tackle more difficult dungeons(and also because I found an awesome artifact that she needs weapon training in, and she can't hit very well with it right now) and because she usually ends up taking a lot of the hits. It's kind of been destroying my relationship with her a bit. I had over 150 with her before, but it's been whittling down over time to a mere 75 now.

I also read on the wiki that there's a resurrection spell or something which I can use to rez her which will spare me the affinity cost. This would be useful to have, and I'd definitely be willing to train it, but I have no idea where I might get it.

Also, what do you think of my current mutations? In some ways good, in others bad, I guess. I've considered using the potion of cure mutation I found recently, but I feel it's not really that bad, it kind of comes out neutral at worst in my opinion. Thinking maybe it'd just be a better idea to save it in case I get a really crippling mutation at some point, like one anon had mentioned earlier.

>>16231735
Also, how do I teach my allies spells? I remember seeing/hearing about it somewhere, but it evades me.

>>16231735
Use a stethoscope on her to create a visible health bar on her sprite

Resurrection spell randomly comes from blessed wonder scrolls or dreams

Drink potions of evolution to get only positive mutations. Best to get rid off all your bad mutations first though.

>>16231750
Thanks.

>>16231735
If you don't have a stethoscope (and even if you do, since it's more accurate), you can check your teammates' health with the "Directive" menu.

Sthetoscope is more convenient, though, and it can show if they are hungry in Elona+.

Is there a lint to the number of mutations I can have? I keep getting horrible shit in my sleep. Does the quality of bed affect this?

>>16232707
I can't say for sure as I'm a new-ish player, but I'm >>16231735 and as you can probably see, I have a mix of good and bad. I've by and large used the beds in inns in whatever town I happen to be close to, with rare exceptions of using a sleeping bag in a dungeon if I need to. As far as I know, the beds in inns are typically of average quality or something.

I checked the wiki article on mutations and it didn't say anything, meaning they either don't think it does or they don't know it does, if it does. It could swing either way, if in fact it does play a role, it would be very hard to notice or quantify it since you could pretty much simply attribute any result to some measure of luck.

>>16232707
>>16232919
Bed quality matters not. Just try to get a fairy hat ( good DV , protects against mutations ) until you can just erase all your mutation and get only good ones with blessed evolution potions

How do you catch low-level monsters? I can't even monitor their health because my single hit deals some 20 times their health, and all my pets now dispatch them immediately as well.

>>16233365
knockout feat

So how does Artifact fusion works exactly. There's a X cap determined by item rank and you can keep piling bonuses until you hit that cap. Did i get that right ?

>>16233365
Try to throw dyes to poison them. How I caught my fox brother with a monster ball.

>>16233400
Yep. One of the girls in the workshop will tell you the fusion value of an equipment.

File: 1481251732565.jpg (79KB, 498x498px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 498x498px

I wanted to see how far I could go without save scumming.
Already invested in multiple general goods and still havent encountered a bbq set. Going fucking mad.

Question, if the final god rewards (the one that give massive maluses to some skills) serve to make so training those skills is easier (due to counting as if they were many levels lower and thus needing less XP), would it be a good idea to equip them before eating raw equipment or other stat raising food? Same for cursed potions of restore body/spirit?

>>16233605
could always tp everyone out at a party time and steal a set from there

File: sweet.jpg (120KB, 587x382px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 587x382px

Does the "prevents you from teleporting" affect the spells and abilities or only the involuntary teleportation?

>>16234345
Turns out it does.
Well, i rely on teleport to survive bad things coming at me very quickly, so i'll give it to a pet that doesn't need teleporting

>>16234358
Scrolls of return will still function normally if anyone was wondering

Where can I find a pot for fusion?

>>16234915
Dungeons

>>16234936
What level? Puppy Cave?

>>16234956
Every one of them can spawn it.
Also from general vendors or the embassy. Don't really know, got mine from puppy cave

File: IS HE.png (754KB, 799x602px) Image search: [Google]

754KB, 799x602px

Is he the werewolf?

>>16235242
Better talk to him. For all you know that could just be his alias he took on as an adventurer.

Thinking of getting a shift core so which should I get? Also when you go to change your looks when you transform how does it work? Do the cores stack?

>>16234358
An alternative use is to use rods of teleportation on very tough enemies instead of yourself(or casting the spell if you have it). I would mostly restrict this to dungeons(not hunting, etc.)because once they're engaged, they will come back for you. It's basically a measure of both buying time and luck as to how much time, depending on how far away they teleport. It can help if something scary is up on you, beating your ass, though.

File: aura.png (716KB, 1285x1542px) Image search: [Google]

716KB, 1285x1542px

>>16235922
I got the omega shift core since it gives a boost to a lot of attributes. People in the comment section of the shift core wiki page seem to like the alpha and gamma cores. No idea if they stack since I only have an omega shift core and won't get another core until I start work on the littler girl I have.

Each time you transform you get the same appearance box found when you create your character for the first time. So if you want to change how your transformation looks you can do so anytime you use the core.

Since the box kept coming up to encourage a change in appearance for the transformation I decided to make a copy of my PCC and to give myself a simple blue aura. All I had to do then was just select that PCC with the aura. Should serve as an additional visual cue for when I'm in shift core mode and when the duration runs out. I may or may not work a bit more on the aura later but for now it serves its purpose.

File: file.gif (34KB, 260x755px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 260x755px

>>16235922
I chose the omega shift core since it boosts all stats and inate magic resistance by a bit at the cost of some hp each turn.

When you transform it pulls up the character creation menu for you to design your form.

Cores don't stack, but you can swap into a different form before one runs out. That let's chain the buffs technically.

From what I have read other players prefer the core that gives you the magic reflection buff, which I THINK is gamma?

File: file-2.gif (37KB, 260x755px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 260x755px

>>16235242
I had a werewolf named the werewolf in my game. There was a bug so that he couldn't actually transform when accused or attacked, but he had the disguise kit of a werewolf on drop and no more murders happened

>>16235242
Saw same thing in Verdis. After he was executed the werewolf attacks stopped.

Is finding/killing the werewolf worth it? How tough is he, about what level(arguably)would you want to be to fight one? What are the rewards? Is there a difference in the rewards between him getting lynched and killed by the player? Are there any detriments to allowing him to continue going on his rampage?

I've also seen the murderers around as well. Are they similar of sorts? How would they work?

>>16236328
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Werewolf

Aside from what the wiki may say, I think the only real reward is just not having to deal with NPCs such as vendors needing to respawn before you can interact with them again. The werewolf thing is an ongoing thing being developed and seems to be pretty buggy at the moment. It's nice to see some progress in its development though like how the voting system was reengineered for it. Voting was going to be a useless thing because the server to vote for other player aliases was brought down but it instead got retooled to do the werewolf thing instead.

Murders in town are probably due to an NPC carrying around an item that is doomed. You have a chance of being killed by an unseen hand when you carry heavily cursed items like that.

Why is Elona trending on twitter right now?

>>16237049
There's barely any tweets tweets about Elona in December, so maybe it's because of the Mogura Games articles?

Though I don't see One Way Hero trending.

File: Clipboard02.jpg (36KB, 756x524px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 756x524px

>>16237049
And the Japanese are just as puzzled.

>>16237127
gonna be fun when people start looking that up on search engines

>>16237771
Imagine the western reaction when you have a little girl as a pet, you can marry her and fug her too

>>16237776
look up images for elona search

File: Sports.gif (270KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

270KB, 1024x768px

Hey, remember that time we all played soccer together?

>>16237838
Good times. Wait what?

And yeah, there are a lot of posts in twitter about elona. I wonder if we'll get some new players here.

>Harvest quest
>Good job you get extra for working over the requested
Apparently people dont mind if you burn down half their cultivation , probably the farm will never be able to produce something again. It's nice to be focused so hard only on the present

Would it be smart on a new character to dump my first level up points into perfomer (atleast until i can play reliably without getting stonned) so i can just dual-job farming and performing

>>16238595
yes, performing is one of the worst things to level early on
at 30 you get a special action and it become easy

>>16238195
>extermination quest
>Good job you secured the area even though you summoned even worse abominations afterwards to train the spell that was sitting at 400%

>>16238687
>Party time quest
>Kill everyone and summon a bunch of spirits
>People had one HELL of a time

>>16238697
Spirits deserve fun too

>>16238697
>kill them with nether spells
>they have a hell of a time literally

>>16238595
just steal a performer book from a shelter and powerlevel it through reading in noyel

File: Clipboard03.jpg (229KB, 832x751px) Image search: [Google]

229KB, 832x751px

It looks like my <Mad scientist> (male) had a baby boy while I was away!

File: feast.jpg (268KB, 1284x771px) Image search: [Google]

268KB, 1284x771px

Reminded of an anon that edited his background images in the past. It's definitely easier than I expected. The window seems to resize to whatever picture you choose as long as the size is still reasonable. Also, Yacatect 222 people visited your shop and you didn't sell anything? Meanwhile slash ogre Nia is making me a nice fortune. I hope your shop ran out of goods to sell or I'm going to need to have a talk with you. You're supposed to the goddess of wealth. Able to sell rocks to the miners in Vernis.

>>16239399
Kai really enjoys his dark elvs i see

>>16239485
Who doesn't?

File: Capture7.png (158KB, 409x317px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 409x317px

By far the best gear I have found. Any way to get rid of that bloodsucking?

>>16240165
Nope, sadly. According to an anon in the last thread, at least. You're stuck with it. Aliens aren't that bad though, to be honest, just carry a poison around and drink it if you get infested. Really the best thing there is the mutation resistance, I guess. Arguably, mostly because it's an option to protect you against negative mutations until you can start acquiring potions of evolution to rack up bonuses from positive mutations only. Otherwise, you may end up needing several potions of cure mutation before you start that process, lest you get yourself stuck with several negative mutations.

>>16240165
>>16240226
I actually find bloodsucking to be a really good trait, since it gives you a steady steam of damage. Unless you tend to get bloodied badly in fights, it supercharges your healing skill leveling, and as a result your constitution.

>>16240226
my previous helmet has cold resist # and 2/3 armor, and nerve and nether bolts from elean wizards are my most dangerous foe rn

>>16240365
this is true, but it is annoying as all hell, interrupts cooking, eating, reading etc...

I'm trying to train my shit by reading the loads of spellbooks I have sitting around in my house by now, but every time I try it seems to overcast or something and I die. What do?

>>16240592
You shouldn't read books in your house. There is a chance that it might summon some monsters to fuck you up and for the magic reaction, just rest if you see that your mana is at zero.
Also try reading low level spellbooks, like identify, hero, feather, magic arrow and such. They are much easier to read.

>>16240592
Okay so I think I understand it a bit. It's kind of an annoying thing since my mana is kind of low, and I have no way to tell how much these spells take up, but it seems overcasting eats your health if you don't have enough mana to cast the spell normally or something. So when I use a spellbook for a spell that takes up way more mana then I have, and it fails, I die because of overcast. It seems especially pronounced if reading the book also drains my mana at the same time, which has happened as well.

I don't see anything about this but my pet drank from a fountain with the message something sweet splashed onto them and now their health bar is red instead of green

I can't really tell but I think they're taking more damage, did it?

>>16240616
Yeah, I'd read a bit about this in an earlier thread, it's best to go into the wild(random square)and go to the corner in case that happens in case it summons monsters so you can instantly escape.

Like I said, though, my problem is that it's a bit difficult to tell which spells are lower-ish mana cost that I can handle without putting myself at risk from overcast, since it's my first time playing the game.

On the plus side, recently I slept and got resurrection. Now I just train healer for a while, and I should be much better off with my little girl.

>>16240647
They're probably poisoned, wells will do that sometimes.

>>16239399
How is Saya doing? She stronger than you yet?

>>16240649
Arrows and eyes spellbooks are pretty easy to read I think. Some buffs such as concentration, holy shield, hero, feather are good too since they will benefit you a lot in the long run.
I wish I could give you some more advice, but I'm not that much of a knowledgeable guy.

>>16240647
Blue health bar means they're hungry and will eat food you give them.
Red means they're not hungry and thus won't eat.

The drink from the fountain was enough to take them over the hunger breakpoint.

File: Saya.png (969KB, 1284x770px) Image search: [Google]

969KB, 1284x770px

>>16239485
Thinking about adding a light elf pet eventually as well to complete the yin yang. Want to play around with a ranged pet. May or may not go with Lankata.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Lankata_the_lightning_of_blue

Aside from coming with a good bow she also knows healing rain. Speaking of healing rain, I might consider the pet Wrang-Wrang.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Wrang-wrang

Another low level pet, besides the defender, some people might be interested in due to healing rain and the potential to tweak how often it's cast with Custom.

>>16240680
Her attributes are better than mine but I'm still stronger. Although a couple of buffs on my end and I'll match or best her in that regards. She has around 1000 in martial arts and around 700 in tactics I think. About 90% of that has come from AP to bonus points. That gravy train is going to run out eventually though. It takes a considerable amount of bonus points to raise stuff past 1000 and you'll need to add grind to the mix in order to really get anywhere.

I normally get my AP in the void and likewise you could take your pet there to get AP. However, due to Saya's lack of good armor with resists the monsters in there would eat her alive despite her doing good damage to them. My next wish batch will focus on more levels for myself and some on gain attribute scrolls to construct her a nice resist set through artifact fusion.

Instead of the void, Saya has done very well for herself in gaining AP through helping me collect platinum from Panic and Challenge quests. In fact, I just use dimensional fishing and have her kill the monsters that pop up. She also has gained quite a number of levels through those quests too.

Since I don't have as many skills I'm actively leveling I'm actually earning a whole lot more platinum than I'm spending. I can make around 300 platinum every 3 in game days by just doing all and only the challenge/panic quest from all the towns in Irva, South Tyris, and North Tyris. This I do all while farming my wonder scrolls, looking for wish spellbooks, and buying out magic vendor inventories to dump in my shop. I spent at least 1000 platinum attending the magic school to level up all my spells from 400 potential to less than 200. Even then I still have thousands of platinum and I'm just waiting for my spell potentials to cap out again before attending another expensive class session.

>>16241000
My bad. Wrang-wrang doesn't use healing rain. Might make for an interesting fighter mage like pet though.

>>16240647
As other anons said, red health means your pet is fed. Any one piece of food/sustenance (so long as it doesn't make them vomit) will keep your pet fed for a while, which means water from a well, too.

Sweet liquid is a sleeping drug, if I recall. Wells can be pretty dangerous to drink from, and can even kill your pet with no saving throw.

I recently found an older sister's diary. She really gives the "onii-chan muite" feel with all her dialogue and shit. She doesn't actually get mad if I don't pay attention to her, does she? It's just flavoring?

>>16241804
It's just flavoring but you should still shower your older sister with love. Even if they're a raging alcoholic and can be undependable at times.

>>16241845
How do I do that, though? The only way I can seem to interact with her is by talking to her, to which the normal response is "...?" or some measure of asking if I needed something.

>>16241879

Evochat. That, and literally showering her with gifts.

>>16241879
Evochat is a talk option you get once your pet is friend or above. Make her happy using evochat thus increasing how fast her gauge for a gauge attack increases. Give her gems and feed her. They usually need and like that.

Using the special action rub to pat them on the head makes them happy. You can give them a big hug using squeeze. They'll say different things depending on your relationship level with them.

If you want your pet to say other things than ... you can always create a talk file. More info on that might be found on the wiki but you can muddle your way through making one by running the sample file, located in the talk folder of the user folder, through google translate and mimicing what you see there.

File: unsure marisa.png (588KB, 545x567px) Image search: [Google]

588KB, 545x567px

How does meter work? I can't find any info on the wiki.

Also what level do I need a vendor to be to sell me a food machine?

>>16242018
Meter? like the yellow bar underneath the HP bar? You fill it by attacking enemies but decreases if you're not attacking anyone. So it's easy to fill if you have a lot of enemies around or find a tanky enemy. You fill the bar to 100%, then you go to gauge release under special actions(you can hotkey this), and then your next attack will be gauge attack. Certain special actions have special gauge attacks but the most common gauge attack is a gauge attack based on your weapon, fist, or a gauge attack if you cast a spell. (All spells have the same gauge attack). More info on the special action page of the wiki. Scroll down to special actions invoked by weapon skill.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Special_action_(Elona%2B)

No idea about the food machine.

>>16241974
If you really want to show your Older Sister that you care for her, make sure to stand over a bed while you are sleepy and use squeeze on her.

File: 43214.gif (274KB, 900x500px) Image search: [Google]

274KB, 900x500px

>>16242048
But that's forbidden love anon!

>>16242018
It fills up when you attack enemies and take damage, but it seems that it'll never fill on its own if self-damage is your only source. I think there's also some actions that can build it up.

How do I give a gift, exactly? Specifically, to my older sister. Placing an item in their inventory doesn't seem to do anything, and I can't find an option anywhere.

File: Ice_Keep_Preview.png (1014KB, 1595x1198px) Image search: [Google]

1014KB, 1595x1198px

Greetings boys and girls, yeeks and performaids, from the creator of Melugas Airfield and Propman's CNPC pack comes a breakthrough in custom content and my early holiday gift to you: Ice Keep - the first full-length custom dungeon to have likely graced Elona!

>http://www.mediafire.com/file/6zd41rsvwchvgg5

>Five forbidding floors including frosty fiends and penguin cuisine, princesses and primordial beasts, and festive cheer and chilling fear, topped with heated action to keep your veins from freezing. Witness the thrill of broken potions as you bathe yourself in the cleansing cool of ice, and don't fall into the water! Are you a bad enough dude to save Christma- er, the Festival of Jure? Find out today! (Recommended levels 14+, though you're generally good to go if you can beat Fire Tower.)

>Development notes:

Whew, where to begin. Elaborating on what I learned developing Ol'moran and the customized level of Lesimas that linked to it, I experimented further to see the effects of replacing dungeon floors with maps from different things, such as those generated by the map editor, which I imported to the game via temporarily replacing the storage map to convert them into s2 files to be renamed into something that matches the levels of Lesimas to replace. This causes some quirks; for instance, pets won't manually pick up gems to sell on the special levels generated using, and monsters don't spawn naturally, telling me that these particular properties are connected to the map_x_y files which I have as of yet been unable to decipher - something else that seems to be determined by this file is whether a map is considered "indoors" or "outdoors". Attempts at inserting showroom floors proved fruitless as showrooms occupy variables "35_101", whose map files do not seem to be stored in character saves nor the tmp folder, and I can't find where they might possibly be located for the life of me; I'm sure there's someway to locate them, but until that happens I'm limited to making encounters using the default NPCs, a bit able to slightly modify them in a process I will detail below.

Some monsters in Ice Keep had their levels modified. For one of the bosses, I had to lower not only their levels but also their attributes to keep them from mincing people of the intended bracket, which involved lots of potions of descent to delevel them, followed by sickening them with unholy water and then knocking down their attributes to the desired level via cursed potions of reduced attribute, which stack against sickened targets. For those I leveled up, I threw them blessed potions of descent for the opposite effect, blessed potions of restore attribute/spirit further strengthen them, and varying amounts of hermes blood to speed them - this is most notable on the other boss, who is otherwise a pitiably weak NPC that is not encountered during normal play. I could theoretically use this method to level all encounters in future dungeons to a specific point, but it would be quite time consuming, and I have found is prone to overflowing for unknown reasons if used improperly. Blessed potions of descent appear to increase the attributes of a neutral/hostile monster in proportion to what their indicated stats would be for that level a-la Panic! quests, but sadly not their skills.

The mdatan file controls the name of a specific area, and it's actually an unencrypted plain-text file that can be edited to whatever you like: for instance, if you didn't like the names that your maid kept generating for your house, using the console to find which map file it tied to and then editing the mdatan file with the corresponding _x_y values would change it to whatever words you entered into the file. No word on text limit as of now, but if it's too long it won't display properly next to the minimap.

Floors 1 and 3 were ripped from a random level 12 dungeon and one of the randomized floors of the mountain pass, which permits normal dungeon behavior. You could potentially link a forest floor with a cavern floor with a tower floor with a floor of the fire tower if you so wished using this method. Monsters were spawned via diary spam, which was rather tedious to put things lightly and spent me the better half of a day.

One thing the readme doesn't specify, if you for some reason want to remove the dungeon: pressing backspace while going downstairs will prompt a regeneration of the particular level you're entering, which will overwrite the dungeon file with a randomized floor.

And as always, a space to contain my other works, for those who have missed them before:

>CNPC Pack 1.2 (Req. 1.62 or higher) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/kd6dym5txs445bo
>Blades Inc. (Level 40 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/u31fi1a1i0bhmzd
>Melugas Airfield (Level 120 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/avghxk81eo9bge9
>Ol-moran (City showcase w/ an optional replacement floor for Lesimas) - https://www.mediafire.com/?i18wzpqaoisce6q

File: Caucus_Belli.png (157KB, 1222x565px) Image search: [Google]

157KB, 1222x565px

>>16239399

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npgag1i8pcY

>Rebirth of the Chosen One "Kai";

>Doth my eyes deceive me? It appears thou hath not slain every deity after all! While your mercy is somewhat commendable in face of your stated goal, Warrior >Your godslaying antics hath caus-ith irreparable damage to thy stability of Irva (not to mention ruined thy business of Ol-dran - nobody wants to come here after thost has turned Karavika into a Norland breakfast) and it hath been agreed among thy lesser gods that thou must be stop-ithed before all hope against keeping thee wicked God of Chaos sealed is extinguished!

>Every remaining holy warrior in the world whom still is of faith hath gather'd in an effort to rescueth thine Goddess of Wealth from your- 'r, less than adequate retail store whom thine hath hath heard rum'rs of violating civiliz'd building code on multiple accounts, 'mongst other things running far over capacity for its rat'd size, and furthermore lacking an adequate amount of exits in the case of a fireth 'r similar emergency - lawyers and inspectors shalt beest likewise hath sent to 'longside our crusading forces to verify these statements.

>Many renown'd entrepreneurs who is't oweth much to Her hath devoted their full pool of resources to fund this most sacred duty of ours, and we remaineth back'd by the most wondrous machin'ry yond wage can buyeth - forsooth, for every flesh and blood soldi'r to our causeth, several more art being f'orged of thy holy gold whom numerous adventurers did dump onto the world's economy, nay doubteth weakening t' and allowing thee to reduceth our goddess into a damsel! Rebirth of the Chosen One, you hath made thy most powerful enemy! Steel thy fists!

>Signed, The Order of the Platinum Hoarders

Stay tuned for Latest Madman's next adventure module; The Order of the Platinum Hoarders - Act I: The Golden Horde (Recommenced for players level 2500+)! As soon as I figure out where those darned showroom files are located so I can link them into a proper dungeon, that is. Deus Vult!

Oh, I found a good way to get your companions to like you more.

Just run around in a low level dungeon and let them beat the shit out of everything. That boosted her relationship with me by around 50 in 5-10 minutes.

>>16243166
Dis gonna be gud

>>16242970
only actual gift items. use it from your inventory

How many figurines should I have before building a museum? Will the deck inform me if I try to put a duplicate card into it?

using the ghibli music pack, and i've noticed for awhile now that when the audio cuts off suddenly (like for map changes) there's this little burst of static
does anyone else get that, or did i fuck up somewhere, and is there a way to get rid of it without sticking to stock music?

>>16243963
just start it whenever, you break even super early on
deck won't tell you if you're putting in a dupe though, but by the time it's really relevant the museum is just a shitty novelty either way (you'll get way more money out of everything else you do)

I dont understand how the custom music is supposed to work in El+. The wiki says that the order is the only thing that matters , but putting 3 songs doesnt change the music in vernis or even renaming them.

File: Capture9.png (256KB, 699x512px) Image search: [Google]

256KB, 699x512px

What are some good creatures to put on a ranch for money and dna? So far I've caught kobold, yeek, chicken, rabbit, floating eye, public performer, hermit crab, and snail.

Also, these doors I conjured with a rod, can I make them go away? Will they go away when I upgrade my house?

>>16243143
Thanks for your hard work. I look forward to doing these new dungeons and checking out your work. Definitely on my to do list.

>>16243166
I'm definitely looking forward to this. I will rise to the challenge set forth by these Platinum Hoarders. Lets see if they have the resolve to take back Yacatect's glasses which I have had in my possession for quite some time now. Must be hard for the goddess not being able to see well as she pours through her books and calculates financial numbers.

>>16245287
I personally don't use ranches since I'd rather use NPC slots for shops however if you want to use ranches I would take a look at food that raises attributes and possibly gives resists. Scroll down to the Elona+ corpses with special effects section of the wiki. Try to ranch those creatures and pick creatures with a decent breed power. Do not ranch little sisters. They are better left alive and turned in for rewards.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Food

For your doors, close them by holding shift and pressing c on your keyboard. Then bash the doors until they're destroyed by hitting b on your keyboard.

File: negate.jpg (273KB, 1283x776px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 1283x776px

Yacatect is starting to step it up in getting good things for me at my shop. Haven't seen so many negates shoved onto one piece of gear before. Good job Yacatect.

>>16245287

Buy a new house my nigga like damn wtf are you doing with that shitty ass cave still?

>>16221040
has the game changed at all? I played this a good number of years ago and stopped liking this brand of roguelike because of it.

I never liked the lose items on death, would rather have a save function and just die/reload opposed to potentially losing important items.

File: Capture10.png (260KB, 632x410px) Image search: [Google]

260KB, 632x410px

When I give equip Dal-i-thalion on my little girl can't hit anything, but there's nothing on the item that mentions it hurts accuracy or 2 handed skill. Is there something implicitly bad for accuracy on it's stats?

>>16246481
I had to choose house or museum

>>16246986
how the fuck did that get attached?

>>16246989
There is a mob called hard gay. If I'm not mistaken they are a humanoid that for whatever reason explodes.

File: elona6.png (306KB, 690x424px) Image search: [Google]

306KB, 690x424px

I like how, with this new Godly bolt I found, I can turn rape mode on and off at will. It's pretty great. I can deal with the almost 10 weight.

>>16246899
No it hasn't changed in regards to death penalties. I don't understand what you mean by this brand of roguelike though. Most roguelikes if you die you're completely dead. Can't load your save file anymore and have to make a whole new character. That is far worse than just losing a couple of items. Elona is much easier to get into because the default difficulty doesn't have permadeath.Due to that, I wouldn't even classify Elona as a roguelike if you play without permadeath. Some /rlg/ people will even go so far as to say the permadeath system in Elona is actually more lenient than other roguelikes because you don't face permadeath if you die doing job board requests. According to them Elona is more of a roguelite than a roguelike due to how it handles death and the other features of the game.

Semantics aside, I enjoy Elona very much regardless of its designation although I understand the game isn't for everyone.

>>16246899
Sounds like you just want to play a normal RPG.

File: Katl.jpg (59KB, 512x327px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 512x327px

After sifting through the decrepit annals of Japanese Elona sites, I've come across a cache of reference directly from Noa regarding the difference between Elona's game mechanics and the lore of the setting. I have attempted to translate it as well as I could, leaving the machine translations where I couldn't as well as a question mark.

http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Felonagather.wiki.fc2.com%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&reload=1

>[This stuff is part of the game mechanics but not strictly canon in relation to Elona's Story:]
>The deads' resurrection in three days and swift recostruction of a city after total annihilation.
>Males being oviparous [male creatures producing eggs in ranches].
>Definition of ether disease (The development rate of the cancer degree and the dramatic progress are rare originally.)?
>The people who don't take refuge from an ether wind.
>That time of the ether wind is always strict with a multiple moon of 3 (The threat is much less than one during a game in the Seirre Terre region for an ethereal wind.)
>Influence of god [presumably summoning gods directly, especially in a city or other civilized place], the ability to hear signals without equipment [when you join a god, they tell you about a reward, or quips heard from extended playtime], and potions of descent.
>Monsters which doesn't actually exist in-story (Hard Gays, Cthulu).
>The propagation ratio of monsters. (Actually much less common than the game would have you believe.)
>The rarity of water in Tyris. (It's of a low degree of purity, but but drinking water is abundant.)
>The water quality of the well. [The fact it's full of potions and not water.]
>Existence of "Cat's Cradle" quest, and by extension atomic bombs in Tyris.
>Ralphiel accepting animal wives and husbands (for his range corrects and being quite wide, fact)
>Crustal alteration [Sudden Diastrophisms] and occurrence of NEFIA. (Crustal alteration neither happens nor generates NEFIA actually. Enough numerical NEFIA exists from antiquity already).
>That murder is legal.
>The movement destination which is at the time of long-distance change failure of return?
>That long-distance teleportation when a companion is here by request [clients of escort quests], is illegal.
>Provision of payment to an adventurer. (There are no salary systems to a general adventurer person basically. Aid money to explore NEFIA sent by Palmia as a sponsor (Or employed.) is possible- Oh, there is a salary for an adventurer.)
>The landholding by which it's for a title deed and mechanism of management?
>Make, mechanism of entering permission of shoes?
>The outward appearance and the name of the Cyber Dome. (There are automatic doors, a cyber dome and the equipment? The name is doing the appearance like the remains older than one during a game, and will be also something different).
>Bessel's [AKA: Whom Dwell in the Vanity] possession of Ragnarok. (An ordinary sword is being carried around primarily.)

Some other trivia:
-Rorans are in fact human, and the majority of them live in Mayroon. They also might come from the dream world a-la Shy Guys: they're said to be most commonly encountered in the Great Glacier region as well as parts of Greater Tyris.
-Ehekatl was born in the 5th era as a frail, deformed male cat, and ascended as a god of cats before the death of other gods merged with him to create the current entity that is known as the Goddess of Luck. She is probably not actually 999999 years old.
-Kumiromi was the lover of Ehekatl (no word on whether this was before or after Ehekatl became the Goddess of Luck) and together they created a sanctuary somewhere during the Second Holy War. There are cults of Kumiromi that believe he is a goddess.
-Yacatect ("YAKATEKUTO") is an actual goddess drafted up by Noa, but she only appears as an unused name in the original Elona. Virtually nothing is really known about her in-story.
-Return and Teleportation in general is governed by a minor Goddess who as of now is unnamed.
-The voice you hear from scrolls of Oracle are actually your patron god reading the .Art log out loud.

File: 1459728831298.jpg (40KB, 560x432px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 560x432px

>>16248928
>The voice you hear from scrolls of Oracle are actually your patron god reading the .Art log out loud

>>16248928
>The people who don't take refuge from an ether wind.

I kinda liked the idea that it occurred so often that a majority of people stopped caring.

The buying price of Potion of Cure Corruption keeps going up each time Etherwind hits, I thought it was because more people were getting infected by being outside

>>16248928
>Yacatect ("YAKATEKUTO") is an actual goddess drafted up by Noa, but she only appears as an unused name in the original Elona. Virtually nothing is really known about her in-story.

This is actually quite interesting in regard to Elin. Assuming that it takes place in Elona's universe, it can serve as way to incorporate Yaccy without having to make parts of E+ canon.

>The voice you hear from scrolls of Oracle are actually your patron god reading the .Art log out loud.

Since this works when you'er godless, does that mean Eyth actually does exist?

What level of gardening should I start planting gem, magic and unknown seeds?

>>16249194
Eyth should look like Lawrence from Office Space and give rewards related to junk food.

>>16249350
Considering the Cyber Dome shops, junk food seems more of a Mani thing
>convert to Eyth
>stay with it for 5 in game years
>go at the Truce Ground
>no flashy stuff, no beam of light, nothing
>just a item, sitting in a corner by itself
>you pick it up

The <Fedora> (1d4) (a Euphoric Hat when unidentified)
It's made of cloth
It can be wielded as a weapon (1d4 Pierce 100%)
It grants you resistance to magic. [#####+]
It grants you resistance to nether. [#####+]
It deals massive damage to gods. [#####+]

>>16249454
It decreases your charisma [#####+]

>>16249596
Kek, that too

File: Eyth.jpg (4MB, 5000x1666px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 5000x1666px

>>16248928
Thanks for sharing this. Found the idea of a lesser goddess of teleportation interesting. Visited the site myself and found some more god related stuff that intrigued me.

Jua and Odina are healing gods. Was always wondering why and who the healing spells were named after and I'm still wondering why no healing spell of Jure. Perhaps it's because she's still considered the new guy/girl as far as appointed deities are concerned. We have the prayer of Jure at least. If I'm reading what is said on the site right, the god pantheon is finite and there are only so many seats to fill. Gods can be demoted or killed off and once that happens that seat(s) must be filled up. Something somewhere becomes a god and fills a seat like in the case of Ehekatl. In light of me killing all the gods with my character Kai, I'm kind of worried about all those vacant seats and who is going to fill them. I admit, I kind of laughed at the thought of Noel the bomber or Shena all of a sudden becoming a deity.

>>16249194
A piece of artwork seems to depict Eyth. I've circled him in the picture.

>>16249788
Seems odd that there would be multiple healing gods, considering that you mention there's a finite amount of positions, I'd have thought the portfolios would be more spread out.

Also, isn't that artwork fan-made? Even though I believe he's the guy doing official art for Elin, I'm not sure if that and the female one is official.

>>16249788
>azurassizzle
>sebrst
I can't find them on the wiki, some names seem to be wrong

File: Jure.jpg (73KB, 480x640px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 480x640px

>>16249788

On the plus side, if you made Jure your goddess and killed her, there's no canon conflict - Jure is set to revive in a few decades and has actually died at least once before around the 5th era shortly (by god standards, at least) after ascending, only to resurrect in the sixth. That means that both herself and Eyth remain constants.

>>16249898
From what I'm gathering there seems to be three levels of gods. Lesser, normal, and elder. The gods exist to oversee their portfolios and to help maintain the balance of all things. As each god worked their job, certain alliances and agendas were formed and this eventually lead to the god war Itzpalt seems to go on about.

The site makes mention of three sisters of cure. I wonder if they're lesser goddesses or if they actually perished in the god war and their portfolios eventually went to the newly appointed healing god Jure. The site seems to definitely say that if one god gets promoted one god definitely gets demoted but I'm not exactly sure just how many seats exist and if the seat count has changed after the god war. On matter of seat count and who gets in, I'm guessing that's where the elder gods come in, whoever those beings are.

As far as the art is concerned, no idea if that is officially what Eyth looks like but I originally found that picture on pixiv under the name of noacat which made me wonder if that was the creator of Elona. No idea if that's the case but regardless, I thought it neat that someone depicted Eyth.

File: asdfg.jpg (64KB, 444x504px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 444x504px

Why was i using a sleeping bag all this time again?

>>16249927
The picture might be concept art or the Japanese person trying to translate names into English had an interesting time. I can identify almost everyone but I suppose its possible some characters were removed or had names altered.

Azur Assizzle is a refrence to Issizzle the dark abomination

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Issizzle_the_dark_abomination

or

Ulzassil

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ulzassil_the_dead_emperor

There are two undead bosses depicted on each side of the picture.

Sebris is Sevilis. An important NPC only referenced in the cutscenes of the main story. If you're playing in English you need Elona Custom for it.

>>16250002
There's so much interesting lore of about Elona's world and pantheon that we never get to see. No idea there was such a thing as Elder Gods. In fact, the only outside lore I'm aware of is the relationship between Mani and Lulwy and the fact that Jure is Jesus like >>16249973 said.

Also to note, the machine-translated page on the "Gods and Incarnations" page translates Jure as Jua. Where did you find that tidbit about the three healing sisters?

>>16250155
Found the three sisters of cure here.

http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Felonagather.wiki.fc2.com%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&reload=1

>>16249788

Aren't Jua and Jure the same ?

Jua sounds like a japanese trying to pronounce Jure

>>16250183
Links to the website don't seem to work properly, it takes me to what seems to be the homepage, as >>16248928 posted. Hence why I specified "Gods and Incarnations"

File: Ultra_mega_chicken.jpg (33KB, 512x384px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 512x384px

Tell me about preys. What makes a pet good or bad? Is a young lady good? If I train and equip my chicken properly can he become a walking death dealer?

>>16250274
*pets

>>16250261
That sounds possible however what I don't understand is why the game itself wouldn't just call the heal of Jua the heal of Jure instead. Jure seems to be used everywhere else as well in the game.

>>16250272
The story transmitted in twelve periods in the menu sidebar.

>>16250290
That particular page mentions someone called Ellis. That's probably the 3rd sister, not Jua.

>>16250315
Ellis, Odina, and Jua are the three I took out of it.

>>16250321
Names also map to the spells cure of Eris/Ellis and the cure of Jua. Odina if I'm correct maps to a healing potion bearing her name.

>>16250321
>>16250342
So I think we can establish that there are/were 3 healing gods: Jure/Jua, Ellis and Odina. From what I can tell from the butchered translation, Odina died protecting Irva from a meteor swarm(?) and Ellis committed suicide. Now it seems possible that Jure was promoted to her sister's position as a god of healing, though I'm probably reading the text wrong.

>>16250321
>>16250342
My only question now is the identity of Jua. Is Jua Jure? The spells go Eris and Jua however there are potions of Odina, Eris, and Jure. That might indicate that Jua is really Jure. Although I'm having fun entertaining the idea that if Jua is a different person than Jure, that something happened to Jua to free up that seat for Jure to enter the picture.

>>16250405
Personally I think Jua is a mistranslation of Jure. However, one benefit to the absurdly obscure lore is that it's easy to create headcanon and make things up if you want. So if you want Jua to be real, why not? There's nothing directly in-game saying otherwise.

One thing you could say is that Jua is Jure's real name. If you go by E+ canon, when people become gods they take the name of the deity you replace. So you could argue the Jure is the name Jua took on when she became a god, and that Eris and/or Odina were known as Jure during their tenure.

I was going to write something about a random bard getting promoted after the last god responsible for performing got killed and then he gets killed too because a cat didn't like his performance but there are no gods raising performing so no dice.

>>16250461

The closest to a god of performing is Karavika:

>Karavika of Song and Dance:
>A dancing, singing, and playing demigoddess. A spirit bird, praised by Yacatect of Wealth for her musical sense and ability, given power to become a god. Enters a trance-like state whenever she sings. The servant Geese were made in her image. Doesn't yet know how to sign her name in autographs.

Card description, courtesy of a previous anon who happened to translate that card on a whim.

>>16250438
Yeah this lore stuff is pretty complicated but I agree that its fun to look at and you make some good points about the god naming thing.

I'm currently entertained with the race section under worldview of the menu. Apparently the appearance of some of the Elona races maps to races in this world. Like the Zannan have a German appearance according to that site.

>>16250480
I just noticed that one of the major differences between vanilla Elona and E+'s lore is the way they handle divinity. Karavika's description as >>16250480 provides as well as others such as the Element Dragon imply that E+ gods are simply given power, while vanilla states that there are finite positions, and each new god replaces another.

>>16250531
What I find more interesting is that it elaborates a bit on the rest of the world, which is never touched upon in both Elona and E+. Cyronia seems to be based on land-trade similar to that of the silk road. The Continent of Kardia is based on renaissance Italy, with a heavy emphasis on art and merchants. They even have a Venetian city. The rest of the countries, including Karune, are simple farming and/or maritime lands.

>>16250274
Any pet can be made to become very powerful. My pet is an Elea warrior I bought off the slavemaster in Derphy.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_of_Elea

and I raised her to become the pic in my post. >>16241000

The main difference between pets are perhaps bitflags and ease of training. With Elona Custom and to a lesser degree Leold, you can teach your pet certain spells and special actions they don't normally come with.

Lower level pets are generally easier to train since their trainer costs are low and their INI score is low making it easier to farm AP for them. Bitflag pets, such as bells with the metal bit that reduces physical damage, tend to be harder to train so you need to have a character that's pretty strong with a lot of resources to support them and make them shine.

I've seen people raise snails and putits into death machines so a chicken is fine if you're committed to training one.

File: file-3.gif (43KB, 260x755px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 260x755px

>>16248928
Nice find anon. This is really interesting!

>>16249194
maybe Eyth is like the god of Atheism from that one game. The more devoted his worshippers are the closer he comes to not existing, so he chooses to hide himself.

>>16249788
fan made or not this is amazing art. I guess I need to finally make a pixiv account. Are there any other sites with elona fan art besides pixiv?

>>16249973
>>16250155

Where do you guys find all this lore? Is it just sprinkled about in game or is there an english source? Or just Japanese sources?

>>16250795
A lot of sites pull from pixiv but I think this site has a nice collection of Elona fan art from Harusame(Rueken). A lot of Elona artwork posted on these threads come from him.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=harusame_%28rueken%29

>>16250795
>god of Atheism

>>16250848
>Magic is just tecnology we cant understand yet

>>16250864
let me write it better

god of the belief that gods dont exist

>>16250876
>atheism
>disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Try again

File: 41704130_p0.jpg (3MB, 1260x2340px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1260x2340px

>>16250864
Mani you really need to fix your relationship with Lulwy.

>>16250891
i believe there is no pie in the oven

i don't believe there is a pie the oven

>disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods

doesn't make "god of atheism" less of a non-sense

>>16250971
>doesn't make "god of atheism" less of a non-sense
I'm a God for people who dont believe that i exist . Even if people dont believe in my existance or my powers i still exist
Cogito ergo sum . I think , therefore i'm

>>16247332
hate normal rpgs, I dont like that I dont get to make my character in most of them, that they have limited items, there is no random chance for something good. Its what I like about rouge likes, or at least most rougelikes and action rpgs.

>>16247314
honestly, there have been quite a few times I died in the game and I just decided the items I lost fucked me so hard that I may as well reset. you want to go with a fairer system for roguelikes, dungeons of dredmor. you don't play with permadeath if you don't want to, but it also never completely fucks you like elona can.

You also have that either wind or whatever it was called, that is a pain in the dick to avoid because the only way to avoid it that I found was wait for it to start and then when im safe time actually goes fast, those mutations have fucked me more then death has.

but that's not what im talking about, when I last played the game apparently there was a massive amount of planning for content that was not implemented yet, but the beginnings of it where in game, has it made any progress on that end?

>>16251237
You're being vague anon. What content are you wondering about because you might be better off just reading the pages of change logs on the wiki.

File: 1478563491417.jpg (130KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 600x600px

>>16250848
>>16250864
>>16250891
>>16250971
>>16250996
Didn't mean to start anything. Just remembering something I heard in the rlg forever ago. Might have simply been a theoretical than something in an actual rogue like.

Either way, considering the the apparent division of gods, I have to wonder if Eyth is actually an Elder god.

Every player starts with Eyth as their deity, so that has to mean something. Maybe Eyth and the elder gods are more like GOD gods instead of physical gods?

They hold immense power, but you rarely directly see their actions. Instead either doing small things, like blessing water bottles, or holding the general fabric of existence together.

But this is all theory. Just interesting to think about.

File: 1466888935028.jpg (296KB, 805x1200px) Image search: [Google]

296KB, 805x1200px

>>16251420
Didn't participate in that conversation but I just want Eyth to leave his room so I can finally kill the one that got away. Well, the one that never left his room I guess.

I wonder how Kumiromi feels in this picture. When I look into his eyes I can't help but think he's internally screaming, "I can't believe this used to be a guy!"

>>16251631
What happens when you kill all of the Gods anon? Is it just something to do with no real reward?

>>16251666
No real reward aside from the fact of knowing that I started out the game getting bullied by putits and things could just glance at me and I'd die. Now I'm bullying gods and making them cry. Like I did when I took Yacatect's glasses away and beat her up until I she gave me her favorite coin. Now I want to bully Eyth. It's a nice feeling looking back and appreciating how far you've come.

I like Yacatect and bully her so hopefully oneechan notices me. Don't tell anyone though

File: iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.jpg (66KB, 968x1068px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 968x1068px

>>16251718
>Like I did when I took Yacatect's glasses away and beat her up until I she gave me her favorite coin

Does this kind of stuff turn you on or something anon?

>>16251732
N-no!

I do wonder why Karavika had Yacatect's glasses. Maybe she's bullying Yacatect as well.

>>16251762
It says here >>16250480 that Yacatect brought her up to demigod status in the first place since she loved her music. So those glasses were probably a gift.

And if on the very rare off chance my quack theory is right about Eyth, I don't think he is going to bother showing his face to a mortal. Or maybe he physically can't and has no physical form to begin with.

I know that the lore discussion has died down already, but I have to point out these two things
>>16250675
>>16250002
Maybe only the Elder and Normal positions for the gods are finite?

It seems that normal gods must have their seats filled, but at the same time can die and be replaced by demi gods or mortal beings.

Demigods on the other hand, have no limit to their numbers and are simply uplifted by a god and given some power.

Elder gods are a bit more mysterious since I don't know if any of THE gods in elona we see count as this. They might be etheral eternal entities which no man or god can comprehend, or maybe they are just your average joe gods that have been around the block a little longer than others.

Now that my random theories are out of the way...
>>16243166
Are there anymore picks following Kai's escapades like this? I love looking at all elona fan works, but I feel I have been looking in all the wrong places.

I didn't even know anyone did elona art besides harusame and Kai's Saya art.

File: jaypeg.jpg (2MB, 2999x1614px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2999x1614px

So some people play the game as a God but there's no option to play that race? Is it a specific client I need to do that or is it something that's unlocked?

Have a CYOA for your troubles

>>16251378
At one point I saw a map that was something like 3-4 times bigger than what the game was, and it was supposedly planned content.

Really, im just wondering what has changed/been added to the game after i want to say 6-7 years if anything.

File: 431413.jpg (196KB, 850x602px) Image search: [Google]

196KB, 850x602px

>>16251882
>Kai's Saya art.

I think you might be giving me too much credit.My pet Saya is based on a character called Muramasa from the Nitro+ VN Full Metal Daemon Muramasa. Only credit I give myself is muddling through gimp to edit pictures of her so they work in the game and don't crash it.

Apparently she's now in a fighting game and I really should teach my pet blade string eventually if I'm truly going to copy her.

>>16251986
You really will need to go and page through the changelogs if you want to know everything that has changed then. Or you could just say fuck it and play the game and see for yourself. Highlights include 2 new continents to explore, platinum to restore potential capped at 10, new monsters to kill you, and much much more that I don't want to flood the thread with.

>>16251941
God is an option if you have extra race enabled. You'll need to go into your config.txt file and change extra races to 1 to unlock them. You'll be fine if you're just playing as one for roleplaying reasons but don't think you're any better than the default races. Power always has a cost and the extra races do have cons to playing them.

>>16251999
Oh, well then I guess I've only ever seen harusames art up until this point then.

By chance did you make the Yacatect image with your greentext underneath from earlier in the thread?

>>16252168
The text underneath it is what I actually said about Yacatect many threads back. The picture I'm guessing was made by the person who made that post.

>>16251941
Ok, is this canon? Because if so it answers my elder god question.

Izpalt is the last elder god trapped in normal god form, and seeks to reduce the world to its base elements to allow him to ascend back to elder god hood and his "true" form.

Still no clue what's up with Eyth though. Maybe Elin will answer that.

Can you play this game without a number pad (only arrow keys as movement) or are diagonals pretty important?

>>16253118
It's easier with a numpad to do diagonals but the game works just fine with arrow keys. To do diagonals with the arrow keys you'll have to hit and hold two arrow keys.

>>16242132
>it seems that it'll never fill on its own if self-damage is your only source.
As of .48 or so, I was able to spam throw my bed at myself and get to 100% within a few dozen turns. Not sure if that's been changed.

Anyone have any idea how I put my less-valuable items "in the back" of my shop, as the book describes it? I'm assuming it means the safe, but I dunno how to actually place items in it.

>>16254661
I always thought that meant in the back squares. But I don't think it works anyway.

>>16254881
What doesn't, that part of the shop? Where you place the "less valuable" items?

>>16254904
Yeah, I think even if you put bad items there nothing will change. But who knows, it might work and I never noticed it.

>>16254923
I see. Maybe it's a work in progress or something?

File: elona7.png (453KB, 1272x756px) Image search: [Google]

453KB, 1272x756px

Shit, is the world really this big? That's pretty fuckin' cool. I was under the assumption it was only north and south Tyris. It's a hell of a lot bigger than I was expecting.

>>16255316
You should stop paying attention to the map and focus on your older sister!

>>16254661
The book specifically says it's the safe. He's just referring to how if you have stuff to sell it will be on the shop floor while stuff for you to look at and determine if you want to sell it will be in the safe. If you want to sell the items in the safe you have to remove them from the safe and put them on the shop floor.

>>16255950
Fug i didn't screenshot it.
Got to the arena, fought a {Terrorism Squirrel} and it dropped 911 gold

How do i reset the home icon on the map to default? I have this ugly white square and i don't want it

>>16256044
When the box asks you for number put zero in

File: 43112148_p0_master1200.jpg (172KB, 600x400px) Image search: [Google]

172KB, 600x400px

Story time:

>Once upon a time in the 5th era, the heavens had decided that with all the many farms across Irva, a god was needed in order to watch over them to keep the peoples who relied on them fed. Thus, Kumiromi ascended to the position of the God of Harvest, and for his first task planted a tree; these roots spread across the earth, and the tree grew mighty.

>Though his was a place of harmony and peace, the world as a whole threatened to descend into a time of strife as the gods mistrusted each other. Among these gods was the Shinou the Cat King, whose lineage spanned seven generations and represented the ideal of good luck, seeking out a heir. The other gods envied him, and his still pregnant consort was posioned so as to disrupt their line. As a result, she gave birth but to a single indivdual, a cat known as Ehe. Ehe was born deformed and sickly; worst of all, she was black - an omen of bad luck and evil. Shortly after, her mother succumbed to the posion and passed away, the Cat King powerless in spite of his status to save her.

>Ehe was dubbed "Ehe of Doom", and disowned by her father. Cast away, she barely managed to cling to life in light of her deformities, and the peoples spurned her: children fled when she attempted to play with them, and settlements cleared away out of instinct. She was seen as a sign of bad luck and disliked for her hideousness.

>Tired and dejected, Ehe went up to the great tree of Kumiromi and wept, her small dark figure an ugly contrast with its grandioseness. A fair boy with gentle features noticed the sad kitten and approched her, quitely observing the peculiar creature without sound. Ehe soon noticed his presence, surprised that somebody wasn't trying to run away from her. She attempted to flee, afraid that she would do something to offend him like she did everyone else, but this boy held onto her tightly, petting her head with a gentle, caring embrace. She expected him to shift at any moment, to express disdain like the others did before, but he merely smiled, not minding her at all.

>Weary, Ehe dozed off into a deep sleep. When she woke, the boy had already left. The tree became Ehe's favorite place, one she visited many times to play with the boy. The power of the tree and the boy's love affected her, and the ugly cat transformed into a pretty girl. Yet the serenity was eventually shattered, as the conflict between the gods had finally reached the area, and the surrounding forest burned in the collateral damage.

>Ehe feared it was her inherent misfortune that had caused this. Yet the great tree remained unharmed, and the boy told her that it was in fact her power of luck that kept it defended from the quarrels of outside. He finally informed her of his identity, Kumiromi of Harvest - the caretaker of the tree. He dubbed her "Ehekatl of Luck", and embraced her tenderly. The two would be wed as the first divine couple of Irva.

>Though the fate of the Cat King was lost to time, Ehekatl eventually rose to take his place among the pantheon of gods after the period of strife had ended. She joined hands with Kumiromi, and they ascended into Heaven.

>>16256447
It gave my heart a boner anon , good job

File: Lucky.jpg (223KB, 667x1000px) Image search: [Google]

223KB, 667x1000px

>>16256447

Taken from http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Felonagather.wiki.fc2.com%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&reload=1 and revised into something readable. Notably, there is no mention that Ehekatl was a dude at any time. Just that she took her father's place as the deity of luck.

>>16256467
Thanks for the translation. The reason there wasn't a mention that Ehekatl was a dude in the past is probably because it was something Ano (who whoever writes the plot of E+) came up with. As Ehecatl and Itzpapalotl (the gods that Ehekatl and Itzpalt take their names from) were a male wind and a female agricultural Aztec gods respectively.

>>16256447
Oh wow, there is more to the story than I thought.

>>16256467
Someone in the past posted a picture dealing with the main story where Sinaha made mention that Ehekatl used to be a guy.

>>16256447
Thanks for the translation anon!

Man, I'm loving all the lore in this thread. Really interesting stuff.

>>16256532
Any clue where that picture might be found? I'd love to take a look at it.

Decided to dive into the site people have been finding this lore.

Turns out there is a god of wishes, who is mysterious and whose influence is strong enough to summon the other gods.

>A mysterious god with the ability which is to the extent gods are summoned.
If I'm a goddess from language, it seems, but a appearance isn't known as you, and it's wrapped mysteriously.

File: 1476004358329.png (664KB, 811x633px) Image search: [Google]

664KB, 811x633px

>>16256629
Had to go to warosu to fetch the picture but the anon was jokingly saying he was dropping the game cause of said picture. At least I hope he was joking. I made a comment that I wasn't that far in the story yet with Kai and wondered who mixed forbidden meat into Ehekatl's meow mix. Would of wished for more context of when this picture shows up but since I can read Japanese as long as I have a Kanji dictionary at my side, it does indeed say,

Hmph...about that, did you know Ehekatl was a male god in the beginning nyaa?

File: Sleepsheep.jpg (143KB, 1284x772px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 1284x772px

Reminded that I need to pick up a sleep sheep for Saya. Has anyone ever got their pet to *love* status without sleep sharing? On my previous character I only got one pet to *love* and it was only through sleep sharing.

Also, Jure...you may want to stop spying on me now. I'm about to do something you might not want to see. Or you could always stay there if you're a latent cuck. Makes no difference to me.

>>16256942
I got it with my little girl just by killing stuff if I remember correctly. Though sleeping together is quicker and more fun.

>>16256711

It could be that she meant is that Ehekatl's position was a male god's (Shinou) until she took it over, and that her altering from an ugly cat into her present form was a byproduct of her absorbing her father's aspect of luck. Not that she was literally a male that genderswapped.

>>16256711
Oh, ok I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that someone had made an infographic or something with some of the main story elements. My bad.

>>16221676
It reduces your relationship, though.

Does a scroll/rod of alchemy preserve the quality of an item? If I use it on godly composite mail will I get a new godly armor?

Do melee weapons damage or hit bonuses apply to ranged attacks? Will an arrow equipped on a warrior affect melee damage or hit rate?

>>16257085
I think you can't use it on godly items. (Nothing happens).

File: 54525.jpg (935KB, 1200x862px) Image search: [Google]

935KB, 1200x862px

>>16257032
>>16257060
Yeah the pic I posted that another anon originally posted is interesting and I wish I knew the context of it. I do have this tidbit to share that others may be interested in.

On the site we've been looking at, under Worldview in the menu. If you expand The Race section the drop down menu will show Creature. If you click that there is an interesting entry about gods and in it lists the minimum conditions to be a god.

It says that the gods can change their appearance freely and the entry above it might be saying that they are not restricted to gender. So what I'm thinking is that the gods can change their genders, if they choose to even have one in the first place, however I'm guessing some of them have a gender that they're most comfortable with.

It's possible Ehekatl could of in the distant past chosen to be male for whatever reason but seems more comfortable as a female. Could explain all this gender swapping fanart lying around and that cult of Kumiromi mentioned earlier in this thread that believes or really wants Kumiromi to be female.

>>16257272
As far as I'm aware no. The only piece of equipment that I know of that can benefit both melee and range are tonfas and claws since they fall under a very weird category of equipment.

Those announcements that appear in the log "anon has discovered item in dungeon" , is this from actual players or just flavor ?
Also at which point after i established a magic shop can i just recycle items from magic vendors ( i mean how much negotiation i need to do the trick both for me and my merchant ). Mama Yacatect must be proud of me , i'm finally making good income

>>16259944
It's not from other players (there is currently no online functionality at all), but it means that the item was generated in that NPC's inventory, and they may still have it by the time you catch them in an area where they can actually spawn.

>>16259944
Those announcements are from the NPC adventurers found throughout the world, as the player chat server has been dead for a while now. You could track them down and trade/kill for artifacts if you want, especially if they find a precious one like Zantetsu.

File: elona8.png (685KB, 1296x807px) Image search: [Google]

685KB, 1296x807px

Are shops supposed to give this fucking low returns? I know my shopkeep has shit negotiation but this is seriously ridiculous. I'm putting decent things in there and getting fuck all. I won't even come close to meeting the 5000gp monthly cost.

>>16260347
>10 charisma and no negotiation
I bet his customers think they are doing him a favor paying so much.

Do i need to identify stuff before i put it in my shop ?

>>16260363
So the charisma and negotiation basically defines precisely how much they can make, totally? Can they improve at negotiation the longer they're at the shop? I'm skipping my bills so I can get into the thieves' guild and get those fags with high charisma and negotiation, but it's gonna take a few more months.

>>16260425
you cant improve a skill you dont have

>>16260427
Oh, I sorta get it. Like how all my fucking plants died when I planted seeds at my farm and didn't realize I didn't even have the gardening skill?

>>16260491
planting anything under 41 gardening level is asking for everything to die

>>16260491
As a player you can learn skills from trainers, so grab Gardening 1 (50%) and work from there.

But if you want a shopkeeper pet, you'll have to transfer Negotiation to it surgically if it doesn't come with it.

>>16260520
"surgically"? Like, with gene engineering or something? Haven't dipped my hand into that yet, so I dunno how that works.

Regardless I used a scroll of ally and got a robber. Selling shit for a hell of a lot more now.

>>16260532
You should try getting into gene engineering pretty soon. It helps a lot if you want some new pets or add skills to an old one.

Yacatect + Anatomy and you can literaly just live your life off enemy body parts.
I currently have gardening at 41 , weight lifting at 13 and i get most of my money from my magic shop. What good skill should i get next ?

>>16261109
Did you get travelling and swimming? Those are pretty good.

>>16261116
Thanks for the tip. i guess ill take swimming first since in my game it seems it's always raining

>>16252026
thanks, honestly all I needed to know.

I started a new character for the latest patch, and the first unique I tripped over was the <Mad Scientist>. I never tried really making use of him before, and remembered he was apparently meant to be a magic user without actually having any spells.

I tried giving him a magic rod instead, and good god, he's just blasting everything with it non-stop, and constantly replenishing the rod's charges. I had no idea in all my playtime he could be this useful early on.

>>16262884
I didn't even know pets could use rods.

>>16262892

Seems like as soon as I put a leash on him, he stopped using them, but started casting with rods the moment I took it back off.

File: lingerie shop.png (2MB, 1285x2313px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1285x2313px

Alright Saya, after spending all night creating about 99 panties I am proud to say that one of them is the strongest panty I have ever created!

You may feel something when you put this on but try not to pay attention to that. With this panty you'll eventually be able to resist the elements and people will lose their minds when they see you sporting this sexy panty.

Saya: What's this made out of? It feels weird...

It's made out of cloth, bear tails, and human genes.

Saya: Are you telling me this was made from your seme-

It's made with love!

Also, Yacatect I have an exciting idea!

Yacatect: I've learned to hit the bottle whenever I hear you say exciting idea.

I have 98 panties so I was thinking of temporarily making this shop into a lingerie store!

Yacatect: No I...

I completely agree. There is no way this can be a bad idea. I trust completely in your skills to sell these panties. Feel free to keep any pair of panties that strike your fancy. Well I'm off!

Some time later. So it appears Yacatect has sold 5 panties for 111,992 gold. So she managed to convince people that the panties in the shop are worth about 22k gold each. So if she manages to sell the entire panty inventory she'll make me around 2 million gold. Oughta girl Yacatect. Truly you are the goddess of wealth. Now what to do with the inevitable exchange of panties. Welp, I guess I'll just put those used panties on the store floor. Someone will definitely buy them. Ah business in Elona.

I can get around the heavy armor casting penalty if I get a bunch of scrolls of flying and use it on my equipment, right?

>>16263537
Yes

>>16263152
I have no claims about panties being alive , thus trying to suck blood from a female adventurer. It's pretty efficent
But i wonder how a male would feel

Can i kill people in town , or does it cost me anything beside karma ?

>>16264042
The male would use the panties on his head and draw nose from his blood. Anything else is too dangerous.

But we are talking about elona.

File: 1461792936509.png (11KB, 307x462px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 307x462px

How does the secret experience of kumiromi work? I'm lvl24 and it gave only one feat and was consumed when I used it. Do I need a new one every 10 levels or will it start counting my levels now and give me feats at 34, 44 etc...?

>>16264486
I think the only ones you can't kill are the named NPCs. So citizens, guards and shopkeepers are a nono. Children, beggars and bards are okay.

>>16264662
You can get a kumi feat at level 10, 20, 30 etc, however, I think it's better for you to use them after you stop gaining feats naturally.

>>16264730
Why? Does gaining a feat from seok put off my next natural feat? I still don't get exactly how it works. If I had two would I get two feats or can I not use the next one until lvl34?

>>16264829
I think you can only gain a certain number of feats until level 50-60 and kumi counts towards that, so it's better to use them after you stop getting them throught levels.
And no, if you had two kumis you would still get two feats, but if you had a third one it wouldn't work.

>>16264889
I'm pretty sure miromi doesn't count for the level up feats. I cheesed for early miromis, and I was still able to pick a feat every 5 levels.

>>16264978
Really? I remember seeing some time ago that it counted. This requires some testing!

>>16265166
I hard terminated after using it last night and getting unexpected results so I think I still have it. I'll use it right before I hit lvl25 and see if I get one from leveling

File: 1481177106156.png (3MB, 1440x2560px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1440x2560px

I don't get it. I've not played much Elona before, hell, I'm not even using Elona+ C, I don't even know what that entails. Just normal Elona+.

Why does it take so fucking long to level Performer? I've got 200% potential in it, I've got 30 charisma currently and I have a bunch of +perform stuff on, but it still levels at a fucking crawl. What should I do? I just want to be able to finally finish those party time quests.

>>16265502
Get some pets and use ensamble

>>16265520

I can't even use that yet. I'm not even at 25 performer and it's still this slow. I've been at it for like 2 days and I don't know why it's just crawling along so slowly. That's also with reading a blessed art of the performer each time before sleeping.

>>16265542
Performing is a thing from hell.

>>16265542
This is partially why I'm making collections of items for boosting skills, so I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff so hard. Uh, it should help a lot, right?

>>16265502
Take off the +performer gear. Skill modifying gear makes the skill effectively that level for everything, including the xp cost to level the skill.

Google or mook is fucking up the recaptcha on purpose to get us to do them multiple times.

>>16265605

Oh, that makes sense then.

File: 1476219231531.jpg (67KB, 647x697px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 647x697px

>love the vidyarpg music pack
>get auditory whiplash with the loud static noise whenever you change map
>mfw

I was enjoying it so much until it started giving me headaches.

>>16263152
Are you unironically(and not via cheating)level 4472? If so, how in the fuck? How god damn long have you been playing this game?

>>16265945
Kai is a magical fairy of grinding and herbs.

>>16265945
It's what happens when you find the optimal grinding patterns and have the patience to just repeat them for hours every day.

File: 1477623597356.jpg (36KB, 334x400px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 334x400px

So, I'm someone who haven't played a lot of Elona, but I've played a bunch of Roguelikes previously. But never been good at them.

What's a good sequence at the beginning to get into the muscle memory? Despite all the guides and pastas I read, I can never get a good start off, and then it just slogs down from there. I usually play either Juere or Yerles and start as a farmer because of early gardening and all that jazz. But then I'm usually fucked in combat, so I have to hope to christ that my little girl doesn't die or they have any casters or I'm fucked.

What do you do when you start a new character? What's your usual steps?

>>16266155
I pick my class, little girl, some equipment and head of to the wilderness until I'm level 5 or 6. Then I start doing some easy delivery quests for gold and platinum.
After I get the skills I want I focus my money on equipments and try to hoard some fire resist for the dungeons.
I try to beat Zeome around level 30. Not sure if it's good, but I do it anyway.

>>16266155
I'm also new and I found gambling to be very good. With the lucky day buff I won a cure corruption potion for every ~4 single chip bets or so. I blew alot of chips on 5 and 20 bets trying for a potion of potential, but the house kept getting 21 on the first round. I got a bunch of crumby gear, but a few miracle and godly pieces. A heavy armor 4/52 for my little girl (who was wearing 7/7 at that point), and something else that I traded for a cape with resist fire #, ice # and magic ### about 5/6 armor and -### control magic, but I rarely cast aoe spells.

I plan on taking some cc potions to Pael's mom tonight to rack up more luck, sleeping in the king's bed and keeping a shed full of blessed food next to Palmia so I can stack as much luck as possible for next time. Potions of cc can also be traded for pretty much anything an adventurer has.

File: Clipboard03.jpg (141KB, 480x616px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 480x616px

looks like summon spirit parties got nerfed in 1.63. now summoned creatures no longer generate points at all. this makes me a sad panda.

File: 1348774810837.jpg (58KB, 388x691px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 388x691px

>>16266597
Hahaha seriosly ?

>>16266155
Start as a Yerles Warrior with little girl pet.
You'll be able to kill things and can easily get into farming and change classes later on after you get survivability. The perk and combat skills will help. The farmer perk won't be helpful early on. The extra skillpoints will also help.

No real point to being a farmer so early on except for roleplay points. Do enough simple quests, like delivery and such, and you can just buy the farming skill. I didn't get into farming until later in the game, but it quickly became one of my highest skills. Especially with herbfarms.

File: Progress.jpg (2MB, 1591x2400px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1591x2400px

>>16265945
No cheating. This character is my third character. I started playing Elona before Elona+ existed. I've been popping in and out of Elona ever since but unlike other people that like to remake their characters I'm one of those players that just stays with a character for a very long time. Second character was created when I found out about Elona+. My current character was created after wanting to experiment with a Martial Arts character because up to that point nobody had made a martial arts characters that actually got pretty far. I also wanted to experience the new rules and features of the game from the outset. In the past, it actually was far easier to level up your character compared to now so I had fun trying to find a new way to reach the levels of power as my previous character with my current character. I knew exactly what I was doing when I started out with my third character so I was able to get a lot done in a short amount of time. Kept pictures of my character as I wanted to compare this character's progress to my previous one.

I'm a bit surprised looking at the picture I took of him back then because it shows that I spent at least 40 minutes in character creation. I'm guessing I spent a lot of time trying to find and edit portrait/sprite for my character. At any rate, made a Eulderna Predator. Renamed the class though as I had every intention to break my previous character's records and was the name of a manga I was reading at the time.

Two hours in I was well into doing job board quests and picking up new skills with the platinum I had earned such as mining and weight lifting. I remember mining out all of the walls in my house to raise constitution. By hour 13 I had mostly solved my potential problems, got a void license, and was on my way to kill Zeome. Instead of leaving that that cave and getting a better home, I spent my gold on just investing in magic vendors. Why do I need a home if all I would use it for in the beginning was stocking it full of magic vendors? I already had all these magic vendors in the towns waiting to be invested in.

So I invested in the magic vendors all the while farming scrolls of gain material. Either I was going to stockpile potions of potential from the potions that would eventually appear on these vendors or I would make them myself through alchemy. In the end I made my own and eventually was able to start buying them from the vendors. Used the wiki guide to collect hidden small medals in towns and places to get access to the void. Hour 34 I had made my first 2000 AP in the void and had enough gold to buy a palace. I also was popping out herb farms. I didn't choose my little sister rewards until I got my first statue of Kumiromi so I managed to get a handful of them right off the bat at that point. A handful was all I needed to get the farms started as all I did was accelerate time quickly to reset the statue cooldowns.

I built my house in the north where it snowed so all I would do is walk around on the map until it snowed then quickly get to the shelter installed in my home. Hop on a snail inside the shelter and watch days fly by in seconds. As I got more statues through turning in more little sisters it just got easier to stockpile herb seeds. At hour 100 I was doing more of the same with raising attributes through eating herbed in herbs and grinding and was getting good levels in the void and doing panic job board quests. I had amassed 13k in AP at the time. Spent it on speed and possibly my Martial Arts skill at the time. Hour 209, but even earlier, everything is scaling and I was farming wonder scrolls and spellbooks of wish on a mass scale. Up to 591 hours clocked in for this character. I've defeated the demigods, defeated the gods and made 2 of them my pet. One is working in my shop. Current goal is to see how far I can get in the void. Seriously, the things down there keep scaling and I'm sure even the gods don't want to tread the places I go to to do my killing and grinding.

>>16266774
No matter how many times I see you talk about it, I will always be surprised at how quickly you can do stuff.

>>16266774

I don't get it, how you do it so fucking efficiently. Like, I've slaved across 4 days on one character, playing shifts of like 18 hours straight and I'm not even level 25 yet. Most of my attributes are at bad potential and I've no clue what I'm doing.

File: tickets.jpg (397KB, 1295x802px) Image search: [Google]

397KB, 1295x802px

>>16266597
>>16266634
It works. It's just you can't use alchemy rain and love potions to do it anymore because of the changes to alchemy rain.

I'm able to generate points from spirits by performing. Have around 1100 in performing and that can impress spirits created from a lv 800 or so summon spirit spell. Grinded performing by dumping bonus points and playing in front of spirits. I actually level up my summon spirit spell, performing skill, and meteor spell in one session. Since I can't seem to gain performer skill gains from the same spirit audience, I pretty much summon spirits, do my performance, meteor them all, and then summon another batch of spirits to train performer on.

I really should of walled up the spirits in the picture as I want to destroy the spirit that killed some of the named NPCs near the end of the party. Despite the lower score, I still managed to get 10k in tickets from one party. Looking to raise performer even more since while I can impress the majority of spirits, I still need to throw love potions at the handful of spirits that are harsher critics. Throwing love potions one at a time at spirits does work however the amount of love potions you'll need makes it not feasible. So performing seems the way to go now.

>>16266908
Around that level you might be better off just leveling from grinding skills or spells. Skill/spell exp kinda feeds level up exp. Grinding out spell levels especially will make leveling easy around that level.

Killing dungeon monsters initially will give ok level exp however eventually only the dungeon boss will give ok level exp. Due to that, I view dungeons as a really poor way to grind out skill and level exp. The void and later on awakened dungeons are much better for leveling up characters and grinding out skills. Dungeons however are great places to get gold, small medals, platinum, and materials from resource nodes. Challenge and Panic job board quests are even better than dungeons in gaining level exp. However, those job board requests don't show up until you reach a certain amount of fame. You can gain fame by completing job board quests and dungeons though.

If you have bad or hopeless potential in your attributes your gains in attributes have stalled for the most part. Having your attribute potentials fall off a cliff happens to everyone but the faster you can rebound from hopeless to superb the better off you'll be.

Attribute potential can be restored through potions of potential and blessing them. Blessed potions of potential restore all attribute potential. About 9-13 potions can take someone from hopeless to superb. You can find these potions on invested magic vendors so use the gold you get from job board requests and dungeons to invest in these vendors. You can also make your own using the alchemy skill and the alchemy kit tool. You need to have enough alchemy skill to make potential potions so train it by making healing potions or dumping bonus points into it. Sell off your healing potions to get some gold for your troubles. Gain material scrolls from magic vendors and from resource nodes in dungeons should provide you with the materials needed to craft. Make sure you're taking advantage of all the magic vendors in the world too when you hunt potions of potential and gain material scrolls. Only visiting the magic vendor in Vernis for instance is not enough.

A pet with a cooking skill making breakfast can also restore attribute potential. The higher the pet's cooking skill, the more potential will be restored if you eat their breakfast. For skill potential platinum from dungeons and job board quests should be sufficient. You can use small medals from dungeon bosses to buy growth scrolls, which you bless, to raise the potential of all your skills however you might be better served saving your medals for hermes blood to get more speed early on. Later on challenge and panic job board quests can net you anywhere from 3-10 platinum coins each job board quest. Again, don't just do job board quests form one town. Do job quests in all towns. Yacatect also has a gemstone that you can use once a month for 10 platinum coins.

Minor protip: Holding shift while pressing a moving key makes you run/move fast.

Is there a way to set the music back to default in your home or do i need the CD? which one if i do

File: growthdisturptor.png (680KB, 1286x796px) Image search: [Google]

680KB, 1286x796px

I just found I had this. I recall cursed items that had growth disruption used to be fairly valuable in previous versions, since you could just continue to grind your skills out while more or less retaining the same character level. Is that still the case in the latest versions?

>>16267389

I believe you will probably need a CD of the old music, I get the feeling it was one of the mid-teen CD's for default home music.

>>16267240

What would you say is a good, solid way to make money in the beginning? It always takes me so very long to get going on the goyim shit.

>>16267519
It's mainly used by people that don't want to level high enough that they begin to experience death penalties. Aside from that, you benefit more from leveling because you'll need the extra HP and MP to fight stronger monsters. At least with the weapon skills, you need to keep fighting stronger and stronger monsters with higher evasion to level those skills. If your gains have slowed down first check potential and if that's not a problem then most likely the enemies you're fighting are too weak and you need to move on to stronger enemies to train the skills.

>>16267519
I'm not certain but I think it's used to prevent you from leveling so that you can boost your learning for additionnal skill point per level.

>>16267526
I mostly made my gold in the beginning from doing short distance escort job board quests. Once I got enough gold to buy armor pieces I added hunting quests into the mix. After I got enough platinum for gardening, anatomy, cooking, and weight lifting I started doing harvest quests to get gold and seeds. I planted the seeds I got from harvest quests in the cave knowing full well 90% of them would die out. Still some would live and that would raise my gardening skill when I went to harvest. I would then cook the vegetables and fruits to train the skill. Didn't make a lot of money from my cooked goods initially but as my gardening and cooking skills raised more plants survived and I was able to cook better meals. The better meals made me more gold. Eventually started doing dungeons and got some gold from that while I waited for job board quests to refresh.

While I didn't do this, another clever way to make gold in the beginning is through cargo running. The idea is simple. Buy cargo from one city and sell the cargo somewhere very far from where you initially bought your cargo. So what people would do is buy a cheap home near Port Kapul for instance, buy cargo in Port Kapul, travel to Noyel, sell their cargo there, use a return scroll or spell, and repeat the process for a good bit of gold.

Eventually you make enough gold to afford properties such as farms and shops. Again, I would plant the seeds I got from harvest time quests at my farms however farms allow you to make fertilizer. So using fertilizer on the plants I got + bonuses on them and made meals with + bonuses. Some of these meals sold for 5k gold or more to any vendor. All the junk I found in dungeons would go straight to my shop properties to sell off. As you climb dungeon danger levels the gold dropped from the dungeon bosses increases somewhere in the 300-550 range of dungeon danger level bosses start dropping 999,999 gold.

I know there's a way to do a printout of a piece of equipment I have in notepad or something. Anyone know how to do it? could have sworn I'd done it before

File: 43657124_p0.jpg (288KB, 800x480px) Image search: [Google]

288KB, 800x480px

Why can't Utima be nice and just give me his gun? I tried pickpockting him and he just instagibbed me. I even bought a nuke from that one girl. After an honorable suicide I went back into the fortress and was satisfied at the damage around me but to my horror I saw that he was still alive. He one shotted me across the way with his gun. If a guy can survive a nuke I'm scared of the firepower I need to bring. I'm only level 5 and I know the sign outside says lv 666 dungeon beware but there's no way they expect me to actually be that level to beat him right?

>>16268290
>I'm only level 5
Well there's your problem
Stop being a moron and go back to fight him after you have some levels under your belt

It's an easy fight, if you ask me. You just need to be the proper level, like maybe 40 or something

>>16268298
Are there any easy tricks I can do to beat him? I want his gun so bad. Would I be able to hire a bunch of goons to give me enough time to pickpocket him and not instagib me?

>>16268311
Use a rod of wish to summon a deity and have them fight Utima for you.

Beyond that, nope. Your pickpocket skill probably isn't high enough to take it anyway, and any slaves you buy or adventurers you could afford won't be enough to distract him before he just kills you all.

You're trying to take on a boss that's way too highlevel for just starting the darn game, you aren't being logical.

You can get his gun later on, for now make due with whatever you can get from the cyberdome.

>>16268316
>>16268311
Oh, by the way I forgot to mention that the Rail Gun is a precious item and you physically can't pickpocket it no matter how many times you try or how high your skill is. You NEED to kill her (I also forgot that Utima is a she).

File: 1344127718387.gif (2MB, 359x253px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 359x253px

>>16268316
I guess I have no choice. Bought some slaves but we were vaporized by some circular electricity. Dam I really wasted a lot of gold on this despite going about this the wrong way it seems.

File: Order_0.png (351KB, 800x1800px) Image search: [Google]

351KB, 800x1800px

>>16263152
>>16243166

Meanwhile, in a distant land...

File: Order_1.png (1MB, 800x5997px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 800x5997px

>>16268671

File: Order_2.png (1MB, 800x5450px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 800x5450px

>>16268681

Whenever I try to put a custom portrait sheet from the pastebin all the NPC portraits get scrambled (for example guards becoming old ladies etc) despite being in the theorically correct order. Is there a way to fix that?

Where do you get a hold of a good cooking device? I've never seen one being sold anywhere, despite having 100+ influence at all the furniture stores and general stores.

>>16268807
I've seen cooking devices on the vendors in the embassy. Not the ones that sell deeds but the other two. A lot of people like to pickpocket the bbq set at party time quests. If you didn't know you can use the stoves and other cooking devices in NPC homes and shops to cook stuff. Just go over them and use them.

File: th.jpg (10KB, 300x240px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 300x240px

>>16268671
>>16268681
>>16268688

>>16266774
today Kai killed something new , my motivation

>>16269067
That's sad to hear. What exactly demotivated you? I had the opposite reaction. I'm inspired to take a crack at going further this time around with my character. I don't intend on competing with anyone or trying to reach some sort of benchmark. I'm happy for my own successes and meeting my own goals.

>>16269101
One of my personal goals when i play a game is trying to be as efficent as possible. I thought i archieved that but Kai character growth is something groundbreaking to analyze.

File: 1478626546474.gif (89KB, 925x837px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 925x837px

How do you actually win the Party Time! quests? I read that generally around 25 performer you start getting a shot at actually clearing the quest, if you try to stack up on +perform and glass gear so you have more turns to work with. But I still can't get above like, 70 - 80 points and the quests want me to do 160+ - 190+ points currently.

How the fuck am I supposed to do this?

>>16269141
get to 30 peformance and you get a special action that performs without an instrument but uses your + your pet performance to get a further bonus. Alternative way is to learn sexy dance , which rolls your charisma instead of your performing skill if you happen to have you charisma higher. I also think you can pull it off with preaching action which should roll your will , but i never tested that

>>16269118

Well, you can learn and use his tricks along with your own tricks to maybe become better, anon. I believe in you, you're astonishing in your growth.

How high must a pet's breeding power be to produce an offspring at all? My silver cat has 46, and it's been months without any litter.

>>16267619
What level should your shopkeepers be for reasonable potential pot gain early? I'm thinking of playing again, but last time I only managed to get to level 25 or so, and I remember shovelling every bit of gold I made into my shopkeepers, but reaching shop rank 150 for just one guy took forever.

>>16269295
It's really scary how he plays this game. I'm 200 hours in and have the same stats as him at 30 hours.

File: JtyGb96.jpg (237KB, 850x1050px) Image search: [Google]

237KB, 850x1050px

>>16268671
>>16268681
>>16268688
>>16269067


All this has given me a very strange motivation. I want to make a character capable of killing Kai.

It would probably take literal years since I have not touched the herbs besides ones I find, and this is all noncanon besides, but it seems like the logical next step for someone living in Irva. Kai killing gods like it is a game when the literally world ending god of chaos is what they are holding back.

Is there any way to make a Kai cnpc that would have his stats and spells? This just seems like it would be a fun goal for my current rp character. The no magic, sword fighter trying to take down a GOD....... slayer

>>16269688
Isn't it possible to export your character and pets for an arena team for other people to fight? There's something that looks like it does that in the export menu (F8) though I'm not sure how it works.

I'm trying to recharge a blessed spellbook of knowledge using fill charge, but it keeps failing, and it worked fine on the non-blessed version of the book. Can blessed spellbooks not be refilled, or something? Or is my Magic Device skill not high enough maybe?

File: 1480470030879.jpg (432KB, 650x800px) Image search: [Google]

432KB, 650x800px

>>16269738
That would be perfect actually. I'm not sure how it works, and it would require Kai to upload it, but that would be the best possible solution to put my party against Kai's.

Even though the ai is obviously dumber than a human player.

Why won't any of my pets cook for me in the morning? All of them have the skill, I'm married to one of them and none of them cooks for me in the mornings when going to bed at 9.

>>16269847
do they have pleasant sleep blankets?

>>16270045

No. I've not even seen that they would require it literally anywhere and I'm a pleb who plays with a wiki and a pasta up at all times.

>>16270257
My little girl cooks for me, and I didn't give her a pleasant sleep blanket.

Maybe there is a conflict since all your pets are trying to cook?

>>16270308

Even when I only had one pet with cooking, they still wouldn't cook for me.

>>16270359
Are you waking up at the proper time? Pets will only cook breakfast if you wake up at dawn or early morning. There should be a specific sweet spot you should sleep to maximise your chance, though I can't remember.

>>16270375

Yeah, you should be going to bed at 9PM and they should cook food between 4AM and 9AM, apparently. But that has never happened for me, and I've had cooking on my little girl since the second hour and I'm 30+ hours into the game now. My attribute potentials are abhorrent.

>>16270383
Are you absolutely sure you have cooking on your little girl? Might sound silly, but it's worth a check. I do mistakes like this all the time.

>>16270462

Yep. Sacrificed a putit to check, and she has it. Although it's really, really low for some reason, considering I got it for her at hour 2 as said.. How does one even train cooking on a pet?

File: ss+(2016-12-16+at+08.22.04).jpg (97KB, 502x311px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 502x311px

>it brings an end.

Uh.. What does that mean?