エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

>>16165504
Such a large bust does not belong on such a petite lady.

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>>16165509
There are actual plot reasons for it. Just like there were plot reasons for the all-loli cast in Natsukuru.

>>16165509
That is an objectively incorrect opinion to which you are entitled to hold but encouraged not to share.

I can't remember, does Ayumi have those air bladders the other two titty monsters have?

>>16165521
One of the reasons I liked it so much.

Asked in the last one towards the end but got no responses so I guess I'll try here again:
Does anyone perhaps know where I could find 花は折りたし梢は高し? It's not uploaded on nyaa, rutracker or anime-sharing.

>>16165557
Have you tried Baidu? You're almost guaranteed to find what you're looking for there, no matter how obscure and dated it is. Alternatively you could shell out money for the game at DLsite, but if you're anything at all like me, you'd rather take hours digging through Google search results than do that.

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Okay so hold up, autistic akikuru questions incoming.

They said paying money for food transfers "ownership" of the food over to them, allowing them to take it home and eat it and digest it and presumably not have the poop reform back into bread the next morning, and while yes, unless I misunderstood, that implies will or belief has dominion over matter in this town, it seems like a thing that will be adequately explained later.

What I want to know is, how does that work over the course of the weeks? Can they run out of food? Does it replenish itself, or are they taking a copy of it somehow? I mean otherwise if they eat enough lunch breads then the WSPs won't have any to "eat"; won't that disrupt the looping?

Or am I just overthinking a relatively innocuous handwave for how they have food?

>>16165557
There`s a mega link on sadpanda

>>16165568
>>16165603
Wow didn't think to check there for an eroge. Someone actually posted the game in the comments, thanks!

>>16165504
whose boobs are those?

>>16165557
恋する乙女のお仕置き授業
at nya

Rule of thumb to check repackages or releases from the developer tag name.

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What do you call this? A fatjob?

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>>16165627
Nevermind, dream is dead. Code in the comments also doesn't work.
>>16165643
Oh, good to know. I wonder if one of those has a bypass for this, probably not.

>>16165666
The post number settles it, this image is literally satan.

The worst part of all this is that I'm somewhat intrigued in this game now. Wasn't the gimmick with that specific heroine that she slims down by having sex with the protag?

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>>16165666
Hot

>>16165666
I'm confused. It looks like he's fucking one of those portable pussy/asses on top of her. Or is that mass actually a part of her?

>>16165696
>Or is that mass actually a part of her?
It wouldn't be nearly as revolting and fascinating otherwise.

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>>16165666
Frontbuttjob.

>>16165674
I wonder if that girl above can get a bypass as well.

>>16165684
Gets fat easily but also gets slim easily through exercise (which of course means hot sweaty sex), because, well, crazy metabolism I guess.

The intriguing part is that it's mainly the fat version being pushed instead of the thin version.

>>16165733
Thank goodness anime doesn't get stretch marks.

>>16165666
harazuri

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Step sister

Fuck youuu asa I thought I could trust you

>>16165827
That's weird. Puramai Wars had 2 blood-related sisters you could go after. I wonder what made them change their tune and cop out now.

>>16165827
>>16165893
Maybe some people actually prefer that over blood-related.

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>>16165900

>>16165900
Consider this. What was considered a pleasant subversion to the norm that validated relationship between two siblings have now become so commonplace, it has become the industry norm as well as a giant cliche. I'd think any appeal that lack of blood relation might have had would have been drowned out by an ever-growing disdain for an overused cop-out, and that's not taking into account people who didn't care for such convenient plot device in the first place.

What are your favourite raiL/Liar-soft games, if any, /jp/?

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>>16165939

Related or not, it's (mostly) the same shit over and over again anyway.


Anyway, I'm done with purple and it was standard I suppose. So if you don't find most of the cast unappealing and like the style it shows from early on.. go for it? Has some silly drama of course.
Every now and then the game does speak the truth though. Although the lack of a fourth wall and somewhat lack of self-awareness in addition to that feels.. weird. (like commending on "raw sex" being an "unrealistic eroge scene" and it being "bad".. in one of the most typical eroge scenarios you can think of is kinda.. uh)

>>16165827
Correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't actually read it but isn't the brown hair girl blood related but moved away when she was young while this purple hair isn't blood related but you grew up with her?

Is the new asa project game worth my weekend time?

>>16166173
I feel like there's no way you don't have a better backlog game

>>16166173
Its pretty much same quality with their older games. If you didnt try any of them yet, just play ren0 and decide if you'll try any more of them.

>>16165950
Kusari hime, but to be fair I did not finish it. I got spoiled and it ruined everything for me.

>>16166378
You mean it's the only game from them that you've played, rather.

Anyone played Low Spec yet? How is it?

>>16166614
It's just like what its name suggests. It runs smoothly like glass on an old and busted Intel laptop.

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>has a route
I knew I could trust asa

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>>16166770
One delicious chub loli ripped from my grasp by cold japanese hands

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>>16167265
At least she still has her melanins.

And a route.

>>16167362
>blonde

There are not enough blondes (with routes).

Speaking of which, I find it funny how EGS has a heroine-tag for black hair. 99% of all eroge have at least one girl with black hair.. why is that even there? I mean sure not ALL have them (I actually just started one that doesn't and the previous title didn't have one either.. the next one does though. Kuru Kuru) but you really gotta search if you want that.. (or choose something with only one girl or whatever)

>>16167401
I dunno, man. Blonde heroines are pretty commonplace in eroge. Out of all the eroge I've played this year, Leyline trilogy had one (two if you count platinum blonde), Hitoren had one, Otome Domain had two (once again, counting platinum blonde), Hanasaki Work Spring had one, and the one I'm playing right now, Majo Koi Nikki, has one that I'm not too far away from. The only exception I came across so far was Sakuuta, really. Blonde heroines might not be as ubiquitous as heroines with black hair, but they're definitely one of the more numerous types.

>>16165509
I agree with this opinion. That waist and those arms look downright painful. Plot reasons or not, large busts don't look good with anything but large bodies and petite bodies only goes well with small.

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天国

>>16167507
>unadorned dialogue box in an opaque, obnoxiously gaudy hue of blue

And straight back into 地獄 again

>>16167540
You can change the size and opacity of the box.

Oh, Yomegami's out.

See you in a week or two.

>>16167593
Will it really take you two weeks to finish loli mom and brown loli routes?

>>16167609
Finals in 3 weeks. Group projects to work on.

So yeah, I'm hopeful it'll only be two weeks.

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>>16167609
>mother is the blond loli
Well fuck that. Sleep is for the weak

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>>16167983
>じゃろ

I thought she was the loli mom, not loli BBA. It's one thing to cater to a niche fetish, but adding a particular manner of speech for the sake of gap moe on top of all that makes the resulting mixture feel kind of... awkward?

Whatever. Color me intrigued anyway.

>>16168054
じゃろ makes my dick extra hard so it's fine.

Where do you get VN news from?

>>16168103
/jp/

>>16168103
Zen and Micchi's blog.

>>16166016
I kinda fell asleep playing it last night. It was pretty okay and nothing unexpected. I did like some of the eroge jokes but only because I like girls saying lewd words.

>>16168113
This.
Also some of the artists I follow on Twitter will retweet relevant stuff.

I want something fun and light to read that isn't 50 hours long, isn't a moege, and is not a nukige. Any suggestions?

>>16168256
Nanairo Reincarnation / Akeiro Kaikitan

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>>16168256
see image

I tried to read Amatsutsumi but kept falling asleep after 30 minutes. Help

>>16168274
Stop, try again later, if that does not work, stop trying to fit in and just read what you like.

>>16168266
Read Nanairo, it was nice.

>>16168272
I'm not a furfag.

>>16168054
Well she's like 300 years old. Says warewa too.

Are there any games out there where all of the heroines speak Kansai-ben and the related dialects, rather than just a single heroine occasionally doing it?

Please send help this is literally my fetish.

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anybody play it yet?

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>>16168425
Have it dled, probably will try it later for Maika.

>>16168425
Only for maybe two hours or so.
The two routes diverge pretty quickly, which is nice.
But it's a nukige like the other two, so I don't know what you're expecting.

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>>16168425
Happy to see onee-chan get plenty of love.

>>16169432
Wait, she's your older sister? Blood-related?

Does anyone have a link on the append disk for Tsurioto 2?

>>16169495
I'm waiting for it too. Let's hope it shows up. Or at least the FV of the full game.

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Dear god this loli's a slut.

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>>16169557
Who the hell teaches a loli these things?

>>16169563
a saint

>>16169557
What's リコ？

When does Sakura no Uta get good?

>>16169694
When you enter the title screen.

>>16169694
When you hit zypressen.

>>16169694
Zypressen is the only good part.

>>16169734
Epitaphs is good too.

>>16169694
When you press the X button on the top right

>>16169734
>>16169742
Final parts of Abend are good too. Everything onwards is.

Is there a reason why Baldr Heart has so fucking many enemies to the point that you literally can't even see your own character?

>>16169748
It's balanced around that.

Thoughts on the Nekonade Distortion series?

>>16169758
Borderline absurd. Don't take it seriously and you'll mostly be fine.

>>16169758
Terrible.

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>>16169758
Motonaga parts are great, but the other writer should kill himself and never write again.

>>16169807
>why

Reference to ever17.

Anyone play the new Asa Project? Is it better than their other stuff yet?

>>16169923
I only played the trial and find it bad. I dont know what got into Asa project to decide suddenly to make a normal moege with comedy instead of their usual full on comedy and gags with breaking the fourth wall. I still go back to Purmai wars and hitotsu tobashi ren'ai to laugh at their scenes but I only laughed two times in their new game. It's worth reading if you like comedy moeges though.

>>16169758
The closest thing you will ever find to Subahibi. Though the writer is on Philosophy 101 level will Scaji have grad Philosophy level knowledge.

>>16169981
>Scaji have grad Philosophy level knowledge

this reminds me of moogy's blog post saying something like scaji is smarter than anyone reading/writing for his blog, why do people worship that guy honestly

How many chapters is Chusotsu?

>>16170121
4

>>16170110
Why do you care?

>>16170110
He played lots of games and isn't a moebuta.

>>16170158
Under 200 isn't a lot by any means.

>>16170174
Disagree.

>>16170110
>scaji is smarter than anyone reading/writing for his blog
That's true though. You need to be fucking really smart to understand graduate level Philosophy, it's really not that different from doing high level Mathematics or Physics, Scaji didn't only manage to understand the Tractatus which considered one of the most difficult philosophical work in the world but he also added his own view to it. It's a miracle this guy isn't writing real books and getting the Nobel prize.

>>16170181
>a miracle
Or that he lacks the skill, more likely.

>>16170181
>It's a miracle this guy isn't writing real books and getting the Nobel prize.
Oh piss off. The only thing worse than moebuta is people who act like eroge writers are the most intelligent and talented people alive. I liked SubaHibi/Sakuuta too but there's so much weird and pointless shit in his writing that he is not Nobel worthy by any means. He's great by eroge standards, but that's it.

>>16170227
>his writing that he is not Nobel worthy by any means
Do you guys even read books? Do you know what sort of shit win Nobel prizes?
This is pathetic, don't argue about things you have no idea about

>>16170181
If he was writing "nobel prize" books he wouldn't be as good, because only very restricted, conforming-to-the-norms stuff gets there. It's a waste of time and I'd prefer if no author I like went into that direction. I wish he'd write more light novels though, or just generally puts out stuff more often.

Eroge readers love to fellate Scaji because it makes them appear intelligent and important. Nothing new here.

>>16170258
What do you fellate to appear intelligent and important?

>>16170258
That would be Mareni.

>>16170258
And you love to fellate yourself for not liking Sca-ji. Congrats.

>>16170290
He didn't say he didn't like him. Nice job getting defensive.

Asa proj is a real ass. I can't choose my font.

>>16168103
This >>16168115
and girlcelly's blog.

>>16170321
And you love to fellate yourself for not making overly positive posts about Sca-ji on the internet. Congrats.

Fixed.

>>16170248
Fucking this. Scaji mentioned once that he buys and read a lot of books but 90% of them are bulllshit.

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>>16169758
Cat's route pissed me the fuck off MC leaves his perfect catgirl girlfriend because this world is an illusion and returns to his own world where the family's wishes never came true or some shit

Loli, regenerating hymen, forever a virgin, incestuous mother route more than made up for it. I should play the second game, I think he marries her in that one.

I was too pissed off after the failure of cat's route to play the others.

So how is Karehana now that it is out? Actually good or just another forgettable moege?

>>16170666
is it moege though? I mean I saw a couple people saying how the common route is moegeish, but how about the actual heroine routes? They must have used that setting at some part of the game.

Is the Baldr Sky DiveX fan disc actually good

>【1位 1093Point] ユニオリズム・カルテット A3-DAYS
seriously lmao, what the fuck.

>>16171009
>Fandisc of a popular game sells well
How odd

>>16171130
The original game sold only 300-400 points, has a bad score at EGS and it wasn't popular at bbspink at all, so I fail to see how it was popular enough to sell as one of the top sellers of 2016.

I mean yes it has boobs and erotic art, but definitely didn't thought that it'd be succesful enough to get 5th-6th place of the entire year.

is there a serial code or crack for 枯れない世界と終わる花?

>>16171193
Well it's a fandisc done "right", all of the girls from the previous game have a route to themselves and scenes. Can't speak for the quality of the writing yet though

How to see the true end in Sayoshi? I have watched all the interactions between heroines on the 6th day and completed all the routes.

>>16171193
Apparently, the fandisc is listed as non-nukige on egs while the original is listed as nukige. Pretty strange considering it's usually the other way around.

So yeah, seems like one of those rare cases where the fandisc is actually better than the main game itself.

>>16171430
The original isn't exactly a nukige even if the sex scenes are nukige quality

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new pulltop title
https://vndb.org/v20337

>>16171992
English release and titty monsters? Pass

>>16171992
>English
I don't get it, are they making that much off the western market?

>>16171992
>17+
What's even the point?

>>16172040
Nekopara vol 1 sold 200k on steam

Holy shit that final twist in Django.

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So this is the main this time? Changed tools I see.

>>16172129
Damn she loves her shovel.
I remember the times we thought it was dried up blood pre-release.

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Finished SeaBed and Chuusotsu this week. Here’s a few of my opinions on them.

I really liked SeaBed.
- The mystery of the game set up very nicely and progressing through the game you always get new hints to what is going to happen. It doesn’t hide what it is yet it still makes sure that you’ll be interested in progressing.
- It's not really a yuri game in the sense that girl’s love is never really a theme in this game, even though there are a few kissing scene between the heroines.
- The atmosphere is this game really is something special and definitely one of this games strongest points.
- Despite the large amount of text the game has it never feels like the writing is sloppy and it’s overall very consistent, which is usually a problem with doujin titles. That coupled with a great amount of background images, CGs and really fitting BGM really makes it feel like a complete product.
Would definitely recommend this to anyone here to at least try.

Chuusotsu however, was a big disappointment to me.
- While I really liked the premise and the setting, I thought the execution of the game was pretty bad.
- I liked the protagonist at the start but the game pretty much forced me to be disgusted with her by the end. On the other hand, the other side characters felt weird at the start but I got to like them by the end.
- The writing while unique is pretty strange and often off-putting.
- I admit the ending is satisfying and despite my general disappointment with the game, I’m still interested in the continuation.
- I think this game only appeals to a very specific demographic and there’s a slim chance an average eroge player would like it.
From what I’ve seen I’m in the minority with these opinions so I’d still recommend it to anyone who finds the VNDB description interesting.

>>16172406
>try Seabed

I did. Horribly annoying music and the utter failure of a start it has made me stop after a not too long while. If I'd ever continue it then muted for sure. Well, I guess it's very low budget doujin, so the music was like free stuff I suppose.

That said, the beginning is really not good if you ask me. It's just random scenes about characters I don't know (yet), to the point it even gets a mess in regards to "who says what" when there's a whole page of dialogue interchanges without any narrative. The scenes have also no chronologic approach and are literally all over the place. I'm sure the game shows what it's about at some point, but eh. Heck you even unlock some "tip" or something at some point, which is just another short scenario which feels utterly random. I stopped after that. After getting a glorious story about a girl and her goldfish escaped in the past, two girls talking about random shit including books, milk and I dunno what and a random room inventory by a some character somewhere I don't know or whatever that was.
I feel like if Seabed is actually good, then maybe a reason for it not being know is this beginning. Or it's just not my thing.

>like ecchi manga
>don't like ichaicha moege
Why is this? I guess because in manga there's subtle lewdness, new poses and expressions on every page but moege only has that in h scenes and implication/teasing -> actual fucking. Maybe that's just me

>>16172558
There's also time to consider. VNs have fuckhuge amounts of text, whereas an ecchi manga may only have like 100 lines a chapter if that. It may be fun to read some ecchi manga but not so much to read a tome of heavy flirting with dry narration filling everything.

>>16172558
it's just your tastes anon. I'm exactly the opposite of you

>>16171203
Does it need one?

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>>16172598

>>16172406
>>16172524
I'm getting interested in doujin games; any doujin VNs you'd recommend that are reasonably easy to get for a gaijin?

>>16172618
https://mega.nz/#!Mc5gDQzb!Urlah24EUgfAmq_ctDCfSFvb0hsoXFKhlo-omh4ADkA
This worked for another game that needed a serial code for me, try it out (put the file into the same folder as game and launch it)
If it doesn't work we'll have to wait for someone to crack it I guess.

>install
>DRM
>install another game
>DRM
What the hell is up with retards uploading these games without the crack.

>>16172789
For some games they just gave up, others expect you to use alpharomdie on your own

Do people not have to take a driving test to get their license in Japan or something? Seen pretty commonly the trope of characters who have their license but have no clue how to operate a car.

>>16173110
You can get a license with a written test

>>16173129
Ah ok, that explains it then.

>>16173129
are you serious?

>>16173141
>>16173150
I just looked this up on Wikipedia (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E9%81%8B%E8%BB%A2%E5%85%8D%E8%A8%B1#.E5.8F.96.E5.BE.97.E6.96.B9.E6.B3.95)

>指定自動車教習所（通称「公認」）へ入所し、卒業検定に合格する事により、運転免許試験場での技能試験を免除されて取得する方法もある。

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Sorry to ask again but I'm trying to play ちっちゃくないもんっ！
and I keep getting this. Does anyone have advice on how to get passed it? I just want to play with lolis.

>>16173798
alpharomdie

>>16169748
Because it'd be too easy if they didn't put that many on screen.

>>16169748
Because good design. At least they fixed that in survival mode.

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>>16173803

>>16170980
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=sRqOQTJb3zc
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=NYu-5C4OwxI

Is Anonymous;Code actually coming out? Will we have to wait until after C;C Love ChuChu is released?

Also, we're now 2/3rds into Occultic;Nine. What are the prospects for the C;C anime? I think if it has visual direction half as good as O;N, it'll be great. We still don't have even a single teaser, though. I'm worried. I just hope it really gets two cours.

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By Cthulhu! Fukumimi's lolis are getting even younger.

Cliches that need to disappear from VNs:

>making the protagonist's life a living hell is funny
>protagonist's whiny bitch phase, wherein he acts like a complete dick (sometimes to a horrible degree) to one of the heroines
>protagonist is a blank slate, not worthy of being called the star of the story
>male friendship seems more like two guys who view each other as intolerable idiots than two friends who enjoy engaging in bantz and horseplay but share a cooperative relationship

>>16174192
>protagonist is a blank slate, not worthy of being called the star of the story
Well, they aren't, the heroines are.

>>16174192
>protagonist's whiny bitch phase, wherein he acts like a complete dick (sometimes to a horrible degree) to one of the heroines
Examples? I haven't seen this particular one that much

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I'm about to jump into Maggot Baits but before I do so can someone give me some context about this group of people right here? I was flipping through CGs and just came across them and they seem to be completely dissociated from the rest of the plot so I just wanted to know where they fit in.

Inb4 >read it -- I've been spoiled of pretty much every other plot point so I just want the rest of the picture.

>>16174196

It cheapens the heroines and the whole story if the protagonist has the personality of a paper towel. When faced with a romance, you're inevitably going to ask "Why choose this person? Why not somebody else?" Why the protagonist finds the heroine charming is usually answered in great detail, but why does the heroine like the protagonist? "Because he's nice." So are lots of other guys, especially when it comes to prime breeding material (which these heroines are generally supposed to be; they wouldn't be hurting for options), and they have more personality than a paper towel. Also, in many cases, the protagonist is not nice so much as he is passive.

Why, then? I'll tell you why. Because the protagonist is a Gary Stu, and the universe bends around his convenience. The heroines literally exist to suck his dick. It's not a believable relationship between characters who seem like human beings, even after accounting for quirks being played up for charm and comedy.

It also means that the character interactions aren't going to be as interesting as they could be if they had two interesting characters interacting instead of one interesting character talking to a paper towel.

All of this could be fixed simply by making the protagonist someone that you could imagine a person growing attached to. It's not a hard task.


>>16174219

One
Reinai Zero Kilometers

It feels like I've seen it more times than this, but other examples aren't coming to mind right away.

>>16174248
I get what you're saying, but people buy VNs for the heroines, not the MC, so they truly are the real stars of the show.

>>16172129
Best girl. Her first sex scene is one of the best I've read in years, it's actually incomparably glorious

>>16174256
Mind elaborating a big on why? Good writing? Really hot? Haven't played that yet but might try to soon so I can feel good about playing the new one.

>>16174256
Was that the one where she was chained to the bed? Because that was amazing.

>>16174255
Moebutas are not people.

>>16174271
I know right I know right it was the best.
This is just getting me more and more hype for Akikuru it's going to be so good.

>>16174264
Anything I can say would be spoilers so go read it

>>16174255

Are you sure that your assumption that people want no-personality MCs is correct? It seems like most of the stuff that does really well has an MC who's more than just a generic audience insert.

It's not too dissimilar from 99.9% of generic haremshit with similar MCs doing mediocre at best and bombing horribly at worst in the anime and manga markets.

>people buy VNs for the heroines

Who are worsened by audience-insert MCs.

>>16174285
I wouldn't say people WANT no personality MC, but people don't care about the MC in the end. That's why there's so much merchandise for the girls but not the guys, and why websites have such a focus on the girls in the title screen for instance.

>>16174285
>>16174302
Let me clarify, I mean they don't care about the MC in the end... when it comes to buying.

>>16174302

>but people don't care about the MC in the end

If they care about the heroines, then they care about the MC, because the MC is a vital piece of the heroine's character, as I described before.

Again, if people don't care, why does most of the stuff that does well seem to have a protagonist who has a personality? I really don't understand why people seem to want to strawman Japanese fans so much by pretending that quality writing isn't on their minds at all.


>That's why there's so much merchandise for the girls but not the guys, and why websites have such a focus on the girls in the title screen for instance.

Whether you're selling figurines and posters of him or not, the protagonist still plays a vital role in the quality of your product and all subsequent marketing.


>>16174305

If your products are horrible, people aren't going to keep sitting through them, much less at the price tag that VN developers generally put on their games. They'll just find the CGs online and fap to those.

>>16174330
>why does most of the stuff that does well seem to have a protagonist who has a personality?
Are you thinking of certain games like Muramasa instead of the industry as a whole like all the moege type games with bland MCs that sell just as well?

>>16174346

Alicesoft, Type Moon, Giga, August, Leaf, Nitroplus, Age, etc.

Basically everyone who stands out from the pack in terms of sales puts some attention into their protagonists.

Sure, there are endless heaps of garbage, but how many of their producers are rolling in money? It's a poor business choice to not put effort into the protagonist just because you're not planning to roll out protagonist figurines.

>Eushully writes shitty MCs.

They also produce actual games. You can get away with horrible writing on all levels if you produce a game with great gameplay.

>>16173129
Not really true. There's a written portion and a practical portion.

>>16173110
The driving test in Japan is incredibly strict but doesn't really reflect real-world driving at all. You're not allowed on real roads before you get your license (no learner's permit system like in the US or other places), so a newly licensed driver in Japan usually has no clue how to deal with roads outside of a closed course. And since a lot of people never really need to drive anyway, "paper drivers" (who have a license but haven't used it much) are pretty common.

Even among the more experienced Japanese drivers, there's a tendency to treat the rules of the road as suggestions at best, and traffic cops aren't really a thing in Japan so they get away with it. Given some of the shit I've seen, it's a miracle they're not all dead by now.

>>16174371
Really reaching with Age, Leaf, and Giga there, I can only presume you are thinking of specific games (like Muv Luv for Age) because none of them have a good track record with competent MCs.
Furthermore, such a list isn't even that good of an argument, because I can just list like "Hibiki Works, Yuzusoft, Moege company #1337" and argue the opposite point just fine.

>>16174330
>If your products are horrible, people aren't going to keep sitting through them, much less at the price tag that VN developers generally put on their games. They'll just find the CGs online and fap to those.
then why senmomo and senrenbanka sold so well?
>>16174371
>August
>Giga
lol, did you even read something except baldr series, daitosho and eustia?

>>16174248
>The heroines literally exist to suck his dick.
But thats what eroge and " Bishoujo games " are for. There is no reason to like each other, you just start the game, read whatever shitty plot it has, enter the heroine route, romance and fuck her and that's it. Of course there is exceptions but your standard eroge is mostly like this.

>>16174371
There's definitely a difference between VNs with stories that are driven by the protagonist's character and actions, and moege created to sell based on cute girls and sex. With the latter it's the appeal of the moe traits of the heroine by herself that ultimately determines the success, and a protagonist who is too "intrusive" will probably be received more negatively than some bland self-insert.

>>16174330
Nitroplus MC's - best MC's

Anyone else have ptsd from FSN and now can't stand scenes about cooking or eating?

>>16174371
>Alicesoft, Giga, August
lmao I guess you only played their most popular game. and
>but how many of their producers are rolling in money?
Yuzusoft is the best seller for the last 4-5 years, Senren Banka sold almost x5 more than the Baldr heart. Tayutama 2, Hana Hime , Gin'iro Haruka and even the Unionism Quartet's FD sold twice more than it.

In short yep, they are rolling in the money, or at least more than your examples.

>>16174695
daitoshokan has a good protag, and alicesoft has definitely made more good protags than just rance

>>16174330
>If your products are horrible, people aren't going to keep sitting through them, much less at the price tag that VN developers generally put on their games. They'll just find the CGs online and fap to those.

Did you ever checked the sale charts? They literally dont care about the writing or the MC's personality, almost every game at the top 10 sellers of the 2016 is just moeges with cute art, like ワガママハイスペック or 千恋＊万花.

For me the mc's personality is one of the most important things in an eroge as well, but dont act like it does matter for the japanese fans too, they dont care, you can see that by checking the last 3-4 years' sales.

>>16174704
Daitoshokan and eustia are only august's games with good mc.

I think the whole thing with "blank state" protag comes from dating sims. The modern dating sim simply has no dating sim elements anymore. By now many games just give you the "which route do you want to enter?" choice that matters, or at most 2-3 mattering choices in the common route. It's a kinda funny development. Shitty, but also funny. Most genre went through this though. (making things more "casual" and easier accessible on average)

>>16174704
alicesoft definitely have more bad mcs than the good ones.

How long will we have to wait until 枯れない世界と終わる花 gets cracked you think?

>>16174717
you said game singular when you meant games then

>>16172406
could you tell me how many chapter on seabed?
initially, the story kinda confusing.

does chusotsu get interesting or is this just yuri shit with an autistic protagonist

>>16175136
It's interesting from the get go and has pretty much as perfect pacing as you can get.

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Is this how it feels to play an otome game?

Is Fate/Extella fairly text heavy and VN-ish (to the extent of Extra games for example) or is it mostly just an action game with only small amounts of story?

Also is it any good if I liked other Fate stuff?

>>16175567
It's awful, both story and gameplay wise. Skip unless desperate.

>>16175573
A'ight thanks for the heads up

>>16175573

Even more awful than Extra was? That'd be quite an accomplishment.

>>16172789
The original uploaders can't crack at all so they just release games as they are
Games with online activation can't be cracked without being activated (with exceptions where they fuck it up)
Original uploaders never give out their activation keys
Re-uploaders are in it for the money and don't even care whether the game is cracked as long as they have something to upload
The chinks buy games and have the keys as well so they can pass them to their cracker and put the game behind their VIP section

>>16174727
Asking the questions of "how long" variety in a thread where nobody cares about game protections is useless, I'm downloading the game to take a look at the protection but if it's online this particular copy isn't getting cracked
The 2D.G.F is the download version and it says it's cracked, go download that one

>>16175136
Mostly the latter, so don't go in expecting big twists or awesome plot. The game seems to be more of a setup that just introduces the setting in preparation for the sequels.

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>>16175136
GOTY for me.

>>16175594
That probably depends on how much you like Nero.
I don't really remember the specifics of Extra myself since it's been so long, but I had pretty much skip through 2 of the routes in Extella because I can't stand Nero at all and there's an enforced playing order for the main heroines.
I frankly would canceled my order if I had paid attention more to where they had said it was going to be how it instead of ignoring everything about it because I prefer going in blind.

>>16175990
Arara is the best character by far, honestly.

>>16169578
Apparently the girl's name?

>>16170265
I launch Hanachirasu. I take off my pants. I start the game, getting ready to unleash my fury. I read the text. It's hard not to skip till the main event. Here comes the fight. This is some goon moping some other goons. Not yet, this is not the main badass of the game, i can wait. Then after a couple of minutes, he comes. Yes, the shiny sword, the perfect technique. He crashes goons like nothing. I can't contain my raging boner. I twist my "sword", imitating Akane's "tsubame gaeshi" and at the same time training IAIdo motions. It feels good. My "sword" shoots. That was perfect. I guess that's it for the warmup.
I launch Muramasa. Time for the main dish.
Kageaki is having a duel. He faces his opponent mirroring her pose. Normally people would watch at the girl but that's not the case for me. I can see the ending! I know that she will lose. Her technique is inadequate. I can see it. Half an hour of description of this poor girl waiting to get cut and at last the fight ends. Of course, Kageaki is the best.
Then i hear this...
"Oni ni ou tewa oni o kiru...".
That phrase switches something in my mind, my dick getting even harder than last time. I can't stop. My sword gets even hotter than Masamune's one of the seven tricks- fire sword , nothing can stop my calory burn but it doesn't matter. Kageaki prepares his electric sword and so do I. "Yoshino Honored Style Battle Technique..." I can't hear the rest as my sword also electrifies and prepares to shoot the enemy. The calory exhaustion finally gets me and collapse in exctasy.
I go to 4chan. I see some fuck boasting that he likes Scaji bullshit. I write him this angry comment.

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>>16175990
the cutest

>>16170980
It has some cool what if side storys, you can play as Muramasa, you can play some more frustrating mini-games. Also you can jack off to Chris H-scene until your dick explodes.

Lol what's that discussion about. It's not a secret to anyone that moege sell better. Yes, plotges have better rating, entering the top of vndb and egs, but it doesn't mean that they sell a ton.(except for some titles like Steins gate that go viral thanks to anime and stuff.Also steam and other platforms help). For majority of VN readers the VN is a fap material or feelz material. We, who treat them as piece of literature are but a small part.
>>16173838
Woah. That's cool. Too bad I'm not a patient gamer so I can't replicate this.
>>16174459
Kou And Tooru are cool too.

>>16165509
Those tits aren't even big you fucking gaylord, and busty petite is one of the best body types.

Can someone give me VNs where the MC turned from an okay guy to abusive or downright evil? I meant, something like in Otome Chibaku Yuugi where the MC was an okay guy in the backstory, but went raping the girls who bullied and framing him for sexual assault until he almost got expelled from the school.

Especially if one of the heroines knows him well back then and commented how he was a good person before turned to a bitter man, or something to that effect.

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>>16176199

>>16176529

花散峪山人考

>>16170181
>Scaji didn't only manage to understand the Tractatus which considered one of the most difficult philosophical work
You all should have stopped reading here.

>>16176529
Subahibi

>>16176529
Evil route of Make Me Lover.

>>16176529
Bible black, you can be good or evil

Any visual novels where you slowly corrupt a heroine to be a masochist?

>>16176730
Mesu Kyoushi 2, the red head

>>16176730
No, this never happens. It's extremely rare. It's definitely not a theme in almost every dark nukige.

>>16176759
I don't know many dark nukige desu. The darkest type of nukige I've played is probably the shit from lilith, and that kind of thing is never really too dark anyway.

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めっちゃ可愛いやん。

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Blatant lies

What are some cool games about AI, robots and stuff? Played Baldr, Machina Chronicle, and planned to read Tokyo Necro.

>>16177013
Re: LieF

>>16176984
The loli characters Iris puts out look young enough to land them in pre-school. I tried out the demo for Naisho no Naisho once and remember being somewhat put off by how undeveloped they looked. Mind you, I like loli as much as your average /jp/, but borderline toddlercon is a line I hesitate to cross.

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>>16176529
Carnival

>>16177013
"Hello, world."

>>16177020
Well that and Shiritsu Sakuranbo Shougakkou's games are actual loli. You see often girls that are called "loli" but they appeal more to ephebophiles (16-18), which is pretty normal for guys to be attracted to.

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>>16177020
Wow, I considered Naisho no Naisho to be 10-11. This game basically takes place in kindergarten but if you thought Naisho no Naisho was borderline toddler, ho boy.

>>16177103
Why are their heads so square?

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>>16177220
I dunno, maids?

>>16177078
Games with actual middle school heroines are pretty hard to find.

>>16177279
https://vndb.org/c4635
Is clearly in middle school because of her uniform
Same with
https://vndb.org/c5808
and her little sister
https://vndb.org/c5809
who also wears a randoseru clearly putting her in grade school.

https://vndb.org/c13952
Is explicitly said to be an elementary school girl who skipped grades and therefore has no friends in highschool

I know of no others other than sakuranbo shougakkou already mentioned.

>>16176623
>>16176625
>>16176682

I've read these, thanks though.

>>16176536
>>16177045

Will check this out, thanks.

Anything else?

>>16176529
swan song

>>16177279
>>16177305
https://vndb.org/c8525
Clearly in elementary school. (IIRC, going off the timeline given in the game, it's not even theoretically possible for her be older than about 14-15, and even that would be a stretch.)
Same for her friend: https://vndb.org/c8529

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>>16174781
10 chapters + final chapter.
It is supposed to be confusing at the start. You get into it as the story progresses though.

>>16172524
If you're that turned off by the girls talking about nothing special there's no point to continue.

I guess it takes a bit to get into the atmosphere but I was hooked from the start because I expected it from what I've read about the game before.

Also, if you do try it again I seriously don't think you should play without the music because it really enhances the experience in my opinion. There's a huge list of songs and most tracks don't get overplayed.

Should I read Remeber11?
I want some winter games with somewhat intersting story and this came in mind. Is there even a Japanese version uploaded?

>>16179104
It's incomplete and shit. Read Swan Song instead. Parfait/Amagami if you're in the mood for bishoujo games.

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>>16176599
Don't understand the hate on Scaji fans. If you spent 10 years of your life in a cell, going outside would probably feel like a new dimension of colors, smells and sounds.

If a guy spent his life reading children's literature, moege, blogs and wikipedia, coming across some Donnie Darko-level philosophy-related bull (even if it's all just there because author felt it's cool without coming close to understanding the original) must feel like a whole new universe of thought.

You should be envious, if anything.

Is アキウソ -The only neat thing to do- a nukige?

>>16179378
Signs point to yes
At the very least don't expect that good a game from them.

How does Schwarzesmarken compare to MLA?

>>16179565
lol

Why is the quality of the average VN so much lower than the average for any other media?

>>16179617
It's not, the average book, TV show, etc is awful. VNs just have way less content it's easier to get the wrong idea. Also, a lot of VNs are SOL/comedy/school stuff so if you don't like that then your perspective will be painted excessively negative. Finally, I get the feeling VNs rarely have editors so bloat is really commonplace.

>>16179617
It isn't.

>>16179617
90% of anything is awful.

recommend me something /jp/

>>16179646
Suicide

>>16179646
Ritterorden

>>16179655

no

>>16179654

no

>>16179658
Shit taste

All right, I think I'm going to buy Chichakunaimon but if so which Tapestry should I get?
http://iris-soft.jp/chichinai/tokuten.html

It's hard to tell with all the SAMPLE

>>16179679
This artstyle is so awful, I don't know why you'd want any of them.

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>>16179685
>This artstyle is so awful

>>16179796
Is she 2 years old?

>>16179646
暗い日曜日

>>16179679
buy something good instead.

>>16179841
>暗い日曜日
Does anyone have a link?

>>16179841
>>16180393
I had been looking for that game a while ago. I found some closed off chinese otome game forum that had it once, but just registering there wasn't enough to get to the download section.

>>16180599
We need somebody to upload it then.

>>16179655
Upload it.

>>16180612
Just bought this a few days ago actually, I can upload it now.

>>16179841
>>16180393
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?uk=1413281508&shareid=996499000
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1eQ4NV7G
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2663891784&uk=624158170&fid=62151612664726

The first one is most likely to be in Japanese

>>16180612
>>16180823
https://mega.nz/#F!w1kE3YaQ!iZLdAXmUQ6IfzQxfzl9--Q

>>16180849
>>16180852
Thanks, guys.

>>16180849
>>16180852
My warmest regards, dudes.

Now as for Ritterorden...

I just got a psp go for reading visual novels on the go because I tried of mobile solution. It's soo light and perfect. I should have done this a long time ago.

https://vndb.org/v1912 Does this end with a cliffhanger? I'm wary of trying it if it's never gonna be finished.

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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/421/1421888/

Vita's version of Leyline will have console exclusive content and characters.

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Any VNs that look like the Atelier games? I really like the art in them.

>>16181186
https://vndb.org/s6653
Here is a list of all visual novels illustrated by the Atelier artist.

>>16179377
Are you implying that if someone have enough knowledge of Philosophy and real Literture he wont enjoy subahibi that much?
I believe anyone would be amazed with subahibi. It's not just about the philosophy and you know it.

We're the definitive VN community. I'm glad to be part of it.

>>16181200
Well those don't look anything alike.

>>16181469
Most people with knowledge of philosophy won't enjoy it because they won't look past anime and porn

>>16181186
Sophie artists don't work on VNs, so no.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ゆーげん
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOCO

Forgive me, I know it's not the right place, but anyone know were I can get raw light novels? Preferably in txt or epub format.

Hey, do I really have to go through whole Mayuri route again to see this epilogue aka true ending?

>>16181698
Forgot to add- in S;G:0.

>>16181694
Nyaa. Most are picture scans though. If you want it in text you can buy the Kindle version on amazon and rip it with ease.

>>16181705
What I want are books for my kindle without buying them.

>>16181819
Too bad.

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>>16165320
>which heroine has a good route to ease into in terms of the density of hijinks?
just finished the game after 5 months of procrastination and the 2 best routes were for tomoe and minori. minori's route in particular was amusing throughout and was the first time i've ever cracked up during h scenes. tomoe's route was probably the best though, despite having the most drama everything gets hilariously resolved and tomoe is revealed to be the most pathetic heroine among the cast and the route itself is mostly well paced with comedy. aisa's route is good and all but the joke character trying to became a respectable person isn't pulled off too well

but the incest routes are unfortunately subpar. kyouko is kind of annoying, her route has bad pacing, and she's the sole reason i stalled the game for so long. mei's route actually isn't bad at all but the writer effectively suspended reality to make hers possible, namely that kyouko doesn't volunteer to help when she absolutely would normally and that the floor in mei's room just gives way for absolutely no reason

the jinguu sisters have the best routes but i think they're all worth playing honestly, even kyouko's route had some real gold about 100 lines from the scene i got stalled on for months

>Steins;Gate is supposedly 1.8mb
>35h play time average on EGS
Huh? Is it inflated because of the dumb choice system?

>>16182197
30% of the time wasted probably comes from meandering around where the split for Suzuha's ending is because people playing it couldn't figure out you had to make a phone call at a specific point in the dialogue.

70% comes from trying to figure out what the hell replies to send to get to the true ending.

>>16182197

My guess is that Chaos Child is like a good 2mb and it has a ~40h too. I haven't actually played Steins;Gate, but in C;C's case the likely reason is because the game is FUCKING SLOW. (Which is why I stopped after two character routes) The highest speed you can scroll through text is like slightly faster than one message a second. Add to that SLOW animations ALL THE FUCKING TIME.. and it adds up. Makes skimming a pain in the fucking ass. The engine is honestly complete ass.
So, maybe S;G has something like this as well? Wouldn't be surprised if they shared the engine or something, given that they are both "science series" VN.

>>16182462
I remember eden* being like this. Minoris engine is freaking slow, have to click multiple times to advance the text because the sprites change on every line.

>>16182490
You can hold enter and it'll skip things fairly quickly.
It's still manual but better than nothing.

Are you allowed to ask questions in this thread about what something means if you don't understand it? In other words, is it acceptable to discuss the Japanese language (grammar, expressions, etc.) on here if it's in the context of a VN?

>>16183471
No, please don't. Go to DJT and other language forum threads for that. It may be in the context of VNs but it's not really the topic of the thread.

>>16183471
yeah why not

>>16183471
No. Go to DJT for Japanese questions.

>>16183471
It'll cause rampant shitposting regardless, so don't.

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w-why? (⌯˃̶᷄ ﹏ ˂̶᷄⌯)
is this cheap drama or forced death?

>>16184501
Did you even read the story outline on the official website? It's pretty obviously cheap drama: the game.

>>16184516
no. I just jump on this game without read anything besides someone said this is moege maid cafe and the one who write this is nekopara writer.
and guess what I found. THIS.

>>16183471
As the other people in this thread said, but if for some reason you can't not ask your question, you could try your own thread for it.

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>>16177013
Since you planned to read Tokyo Necro, you might read Kikokugai first.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a skip function in Himawari Pebble in the Sky besides ctrl? Ctrl works but it overrides the "skip" setting in the menu and skips over unread text even if you have it set not to.

Read like two hours of 枯れない世界と終わる花 and... it's pretty boring. Dunno if I should continue

>>16184941
The programmers were surly dump to not include it. You have no control over it, I'm afraid.

>>16182462

Holy fuck I'm glad I'm not the only one who dropped the game over this bullshit, I thought I was autistic for a while.

Even at max speed the text speed is SO INFURIATINGLY SLOW, it makes the entire experience a pain and I quickly lost interest regardless of how good it might be due to my frustration. Seriously, how did this happen with a game that was so high profile?

>>16184941

It's one of the F buttons iirc, I forget which one though.

>>16184941
you can skip from menu.

>>16185389
Was this the PC version? I don't remember being too annoyed with the Vita version.

>>16186047

Yeah I'm referring to the PC version. It's not just the text speed, trying to open the menu or check the tips requires an unreasonably long amount of time, and considering the sheer number of truly useless tips it dumps on you in the first few hours I gave up fairly quickly since I felt like most of my time with it was spent waiting for the game to respond to what I was asking it to do.

Shame since I saw overwhelmingly positive reviews on it, but fuck every bit of that. I really don't understand how it got past testing in that state, it was that bad for me.

>>16185389

I just don't really care about the other 2 heroines, so I just stopped. (so far at least) You can ignore tips you don't need and if you want to normally read, it's fast enough. Just make sure to make text instant and turn off the "voice to text sync". Just if you want to only skim it gets ugly. Or skipping, that also takes a while. (If you follow the walkthrough on seiya you'll skip over 2 hours alone, just the actual skipping, not taking into account the shitty "choices" of text or pictures or whatever)

>>16185392

It was F3, thank you. I tried all the letter keys but didn't think to touch the function keys. From what I've seen so far I think Pebble is the superior version but it's a shame that the engine is inferior to the original.

>>16186493

That girl better be shocked.

>>16176806
Would you happen to have a download link for this? Looks interesting.

>>16187771
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ183051.html

>>16187808
That's about 1,296円 more than I currently have on my bank account. I guess there isn't a torrent anywhere?

>>16187817
Gotta wait until next month then.

>>16187817
It was uploaded here a few threads back, you can try looking for it.

>>16186493
>filename

JESUS

>>16187850
Thanks mate.

If anyone else cares: mega:///#!v4g0FI4A!atH7mQH2wVhJa9fBCjcwTPGb-BPktM-Np8DNmV9n4f8

It's fine to only read the main branch in Eustia, right? Or are any of the side routes good for something besides porn?

>>16187950
I have no idea why you'd assume a VN like Eustia has routes solely for porn? Does it look like a nukige to you? Do you have no sense of romance or attraction to the characters?

>>16187967
>a VN like Eustia
A plotge chained by moeshit? Why WOULDN'T he assume routes are just there for porn? And, indeed, they pretty much are. Too short for anything else, even proper romance.

>>16187967
Not sure if trolling

>>16187972
Yes, if you consider girls, romance, and character interaction/development that isn't directly related to the plot to be "moeshit", then the routes have no value.

>>16188008
If you consider the garbo in those routes as meaningful character interaction or development, you have far lower standards than me.

>>16184646
Should I read the original or the remake?

>>16186085
How powerful is your PC? I didn't have problems with text speed since I just started reading and am stupidly slow, but I did have some performance issues at certain parts while running at 1080p, mainly when the backgrounds were divided. (Although that's certainly a problem on the developer's side. How the hell can a VN be demanding?)

>>16188172
The Kikokugai remake has redrawn art, better 演出, and is "all-ages" (with basically all the ero cgs intact but no genitals, including the gangrape cg) so it has famous seiyuu. It's probably the better experience, unless you really want to see the eroscenes explicitly.

>>16188248
>and is "all-ages" (with basically all the ero cgs intact but no genitals, including the gangrape cg) so it has famous seiyu
So those scenes aren't voiced? Or like there is some narrative but no dialogue?

>>16188258
They keep in some relevant dialogue, but no lewd sounds.

>>16188172

I've got an i7, Geforce 840m, and 16mb RAM, there should be no issue. Considering I have had no problem running any other eroge, even the ones that are supposed to be fairly demanding, I am led to believe that it must just be this particular game.

Some eroge just aren't made very well and that leads to problems, ports seem to suffer a lot for whatever reason.

>>16187950

Licia's route is pretty decent.
Fione's is worth doing if you like her.

>>16188099
More like we just have different tastes. I assume you don't touch moege and only read super serious plotge with mature adult themes for mature adults like yourself?

>>16188415
You assume wrong, I read tons of moege / charage. That's why I can look at the shoehorned romance in Aiyoku and call it garbo, I've read so many better works that took romance far more seriously and did so much better.

>>16188415

Come on dude, the ends in Eustia are like ~1hr long if you read slowly and only there so they could check off having porn for all heroines. No need to get upset about it, it's just what kind of game it is. If you want an August game with lots of decent-good character routes, Daitosho is the way to go.

Licia's was pretty good imo, but no it's not necessary to read any of the branches regardless of your "tastes" unless you just really like one of the side heroines and even then I'd recommend doing them after you finish. Aiyoku no Eustia was clearly meant to be played through to the final chapter as a linear game and I'm not sure how you would get any other impression.

>>16188296
Well, your PC is certainly more powerful than mine. Still, did you try running it at 720p? Even when I didn't have problems in-game, changing the resolution made the menu go faster.

>>16188579
I dropped Eustia around the crow monster's chapter, I just has shit going on and was not able to finish it. Should I revisit it or get into Daitosho? Having to retrace my steps in Eustia seems like a pain.

>>16188668

Depends on what you're looking for, honestly. I have a lot of issues with first three routes of Eustia but the last two are extremely good imo, it made everything before it not even matter for me.

I assume you were in Fione's chapter, which is honestly still what I would consider the beginning of the game. You don't have much to "retrace" at all so I wouldn't even worry about that.

Daitoshokan is one of my favorite charage, it's consistently fun and the writing team is really great at making conversations and scenes feel natural and satisfying. Girls are also hella cute.

Both are good, but overall Eustia wins out for me since it was more in line with what I enjoy reading. I say go for Eustia, but again, it just depends on what you're in the mood for.

>>16188704
Thanks for the response I'll give Eustia another go.

>>16188704
First three?
I agree that the 2nd and 3rd "routes" are fairly weak, but I found Fione's section to be fantastic. Excellent use of the setting, Caim's character, and so on.

>>16188579
No, you're clearly wrong. If the routes were just there for porn, they would've just had the sex scenes in the Extra menu unlock when you finish the chapter. If the routes are meant to be read after the true game, they would've just made them unlockable from the extra menu like the mini-routes for the 3 side girls in Senmomo. The reason they're in the main game and unlockable through your choices is because they're meant to be read as part of the game, and the reason they have their little story and epilogue instead of pure porn is because they're meant to provide a romantic conclusion to the girl's story and emotional satisfaction for people who get attached to the heroines. And if you're not attached to the heroines there's honestly no point in reading Eustia in the first place.

>>16188727
Who could feel emotional satisfaction from those tiny routes? They're so short and terrible, the only people who would feel satisfied are those who just need a marriage CG to be content.

>>16188727

I'm like 80% sure you're trolling at this point, either way I don't feel like arguing with you over it. If you're not, we were clearly looking for different things out of the game and that is what it is.

Sure, whatever man. The 30 minute side endings in Eustia are just as important as the true end, whatever you say.

>>16188727
>The reason they're in the main game and unlockable through your choices is because they're meant to be read as part of the game,

You are reading way too much into that. People frown on omake scenes, it looks lazy. Making the extra routes accessible from the main via choices gives the illusion of effort, but if those routes are nothing more than omake scenes in disguise, there is no reason to read them.

>>16188727
is this bait

>>16188736
>The 30 minute side endings in Eustia are just as important as the true end, whatever you say.
I never said this. Obviously the true end is by far the best part of the game. But that doesn't mean the routes are shit, just that the true end is amazing.

Anyway, you're right, clearly we're just looking for different things out of the game, and as long as you enjoy it I guess it's fine.

>>16188751
If this is true I don't know why they had more than half the scenes in the Extra menu, why not just put them all in the routes so they look even less lazy? Some games do this, just have the routes devolve into a stream of continuous sex scenes. It's almost as if the routes in Eustia are there for a different reason from the sex scenes.

Has anyone else here gotten a headache from reading Irotoridori no Sekai? Turning down my monitor's brightness has mainly resolved it, but I was getting a headache after about 10 minutes of reading before I did that.

>>16188726

Fione's route is a great hook.
And then immediately afterward there's Eris, I would guess that most of the people who dropped Eustia dropped it during the 2nd route.

>>16188808
Cause Eustia is a quality work and they knew going straight from a good story to a flood of sex scenes would be terrible.
What you should ask yourself is, if the routes have such a meaningful reason, why are they like 30 minutes long? If they're so important for romantic conclusions and all that, why do they have so little attention and time given to them?

>>16188852
They are fan service at best or at worse an after thought.

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Well?

>>16189019
She looks hella ちっちゃい to me if nothing else. Like 5 or 6 years old.

>>16188852
It's not like the whole route is just the split-off point, I think of the chapter as the route, and the part after the branch as the "happy end" of it, from the heroine's perspective anyway. You get all of this character and relationship development over this route, it would be a shame to throw it all away, do nothing with it, and have Fione and Eris be non-entities for the rest of the VN. So you give them a proper ending. Sure, it's short, but the drama is over and concluded in the route, there's not a lot to do, and having a satisfying conclusion to their relationship and their storyline is far better than nothing at all.

>>16189039
Well they're learning basic vocabulary, can't write kanji, don't know their times tables, can't go to the store without a guardian, and order the kid's special.

I think your estimation is accurate.

>>16189122
so they're like our DJT friends? cute

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Oh no, she has a gun!

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>>16189233

>>16189266
I still find it weird it was the only instance of SD art in the whole game.

IroSeka's protagonist reminds me of Eustia Astraea.