Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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>>16143905
Hi /gsg/.

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>>16143632

This got literally laughing for a whole minute, God damm it

>>16143895
Fit planes when?

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My fucking god this map, just when I was running out of resources.
100k fuel, 320 buckets and 2 megami used, couldn't even reach the boss with other fleets in 40 runs.

>>16143929
2 seaplanes?

>>16143936
Type 2 fighter + seaplane for AS and double attack.

>>16143929
Praise the Yamatos.

>>16143911
How fares your fleet?

>>16143961
I must unite the ship peoples under one flag.

I'm surprised nobody said something like "E4 is easy, I cleared it in 1 try just git gud" yet.

>>16143974
It's truly an assrape of a map.

>>16143974
E4 is easy, I cleared it in 1 try just git gud I would like to say, but actually fuck this map.

>>16143974
I can only say the first run with Yamatos was an S-rank. Then nuclear subs and nuclear Wos happened.

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>>16143929
M U S A S H I
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>>16143974
>>16143991

Last dance looks murderous with those 2 Wo Kai and NOT-KAGA. WTF devs.

>>16143974
Well I chipped the bar in like 10 runs, but then got about 15 taiha from the nuclear sub alone which looks exactly the same as pre-final.

>>16143974
Even easy shitters complain about it.

>tfw my souryuu always gets btfo while Hiryuu dodges everything

>>16144024
>take a look on easy compositions
>not even nu-class on air nodes
>only one pattern with so flag
>no more than two ru on S node
Well, I found one complain that transport part is harder than hp, so maybe that's it.

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>>16143974
The difference in difficulty after the addition of double wo kai is fucking huge.
Closest I fucking got to, even after switching to big fleet. It was pissed easy to S rank it earlier when you can get AS with CVL and the air raid nodes were quite harmless.

>>16144052

>mfw if I were to launch my Armored Cranes to E-4 I'd be left with just Unryuus, Aquila and Graf for E-5

>>16144002
It is, I had a nigh perfect run with hotels up until the last air node, then 3 taihas at once and one chuuha.

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>>16144061
Should have LSC'd harder.

Route support for E4 transport? Or how do I get through these nodes?

>>16144071

I do Have Taihou, it's just that I forgot to mention her. All the same since I still want to save her for E-5.

Anybody tried air support for E4?

My battles won't load even without a viewer. I need help anons!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16144061
Taihou, Akagi and Ganaha are good enough

>>16144085
Is your server still DDoS'd?

>>16144061
No Akagi and Kaga?

>>16143974
E4 is easy, I cleared it in 1 try just git gud

>>16144086

Ganaha? You mean Katsuragi?

>>16144090

I have then, already commited then. Problem is that I'm scared shitless since my resources are hurting already.

>>16144089
My server not included on the attacked list

>>16144098
Then is your server freshly DDoS'd?

Actually what's your server?

>>16144101
Iwagawa

Locked Maya at E4 struggling too S rank node P with only ducky and 1 LBAS

>>16144075
No need, H is in diamnod and relatively harmless.

What the fuck is Tanaka doing? So, what, are next event's debuffs going to be "S rank all nodes 5 times"? And then the boss has 300 armor? With hp regeneration? This shit has to end.

>>16144142
To be honest, gauge regen should have been hard mode exclusive.

>>16144142
Thanks for the ideas.

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>>16144142
I wish they would stop adding more and more sub/air raid/whatever nodes.
Fucking V and U nodes, really? Why is E-4 even one map?

>>16143974
E-4 will be the map that kills Kancolle.

>>16144142
>>16144161
Medium event they said only 5 maps.
While E4 is clearly 2 maps and E5 also 2 maps if you count debuffing process.

Meanwhile im stuck at S ranking E5 P because no maya.

>>16144161
Soon we'll be getting AA, AB, AC etc nodes because maps will soon be exceeding 26 nodes.

>>16144175
Yeah, the debuff bullshit could account for an entire map in and of itself. I'd frankly rather have that instead of having to dance around on one leg, blindfolded, with an arm tied behind my back while holding a chicken head in my mouth and a directing an orchestra with my free hand just to have a chance at the boss node.

>>16143929
Did you try 6 subs?

Why does everyone use Hatsushimo in their E2/E3 fleets? Is it a meme?

>>16144210
>look mom I posted it again!!!!

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>>16144134
OK, thank you.

>>16144130
>E4
>LBAS

Nice bait.

>>16144192
DESU S rank surface battle seems ok just kill everything if thats hard throw support,

But S rank air battle node seems absurd take 1 scratch damage and its already count as A rank

>>16144142
Yes and the only ship that can damage the final boss is Minazuki.

>>16144229
Locked maya at E4 and cant use her at E5 too S rank those air node. thats what i meant

>>16144207
No, chipping was easy and I don't think you can kill her with subs.

What's the LoS for E4 TP?

>>16144212
Most people don't luckmod so they used Hatsushimo in case Shiggy/Beaver was needed for something else.

>>16144212
You use ASW DDs in E-1, daihatsu ones for E-1/E-4, best ones for E-5 so Hatsushimo is the only good cutin DD left.

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Can /jp/ help this kusomode autist with this setup for E-3. Being retarded and thinking it mattered to stay on the BEILQ route, i put Asashio and Tama into the fleet (yes, bad wikia influence), but as it seems, it doesn't.
I can replace them for a Lv50 Shimakaze and Lv70 Tenryuu/ Lv60 Abukuma/Isuzu as the best other girls i have, but i'm incapable of getting a kill on the Abyssal Frenchie and she isn't even in her second form. Is there anything i can do with my comp/equips (no rare items mind you)? I can post watever other ships i have if that helps.

>>16144212
Budget Beaver

>>16144212
Super cute and does her best.

>>16144272
Debuff her then ask again.

>>16144289
wat

>>16144272
Read up on the wiki for equipment setups and look at the Maya page.
Don't you have better planes?

>>16144289
Did she get so drunk she wandered onto the battle?

>>16144296
Nope. 32's and 52's keep dropping like crazy but nothing better. Maybe replace dive bombers with 62 F/B?
And wat's wrong with Maya? She isn't kai ni so isn't that the best i can pull of? Or should i change the main gun for a 12cm launcher for more AA?

>>16143895
>-"That type" of aircraft and a new system will finally be introduced in autumn or later.
>or later.
I love this part.

Any tips on formation for E4 transport?

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Fuck this map so much. Thank you based Musashi.

>>16144212

Not exactly reserve, not quite frontline/elite. Perfect for a map like E2/3.

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>mouse slips while switching the 1D to first position
>gets locked and wastes a few hundred baux
Fuck whoever thought this was good game design.

And then I'm still here sparkling for hours.

>>16144347
How many attempts of LD on this comp?

>>16144361
not him but im using something similiar, if you can reach the boss its guaranteed kill

>>16144365
Yeah but the problem resides in the number of attempts until reaching boss. I'm on four digits of fuel already so I'm in dire straits.

Also, >>16144347 , any bombers on planes or full mules? And recon or 44s on hotels?

>>16144286
Is the debuff confirmed? Wiki and wikia seem to only put out theories. and if getting S's on all air nodes in E-2 and E-3 and scoring S on another E-2 boss node that is E-3 J i'm highly unlikely to pull that off and thats aside from other things.

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>>16144380
>Is the debuff confirmed?
She loses her hat and has an altered line.

>>16144361
>>16144365
Not him but I needed about 10-15 runs with hotels, 3 boss fights, 2 fails before the kill because I didn't go for AS at first.

>>16144379
7 green + the hibrid red on Shoukaku+Taihou, Type 2 + seaplanes on hotels for AS, about 633 initial FP but even the fucking sub node kills some planes.

>>16144361
>>16144365

Lost count on the attempts. That was the 5th time I reach the boss on this comp. Iowa just kept chocking on the crits. Around 100k fuel total.

>>16144379
All mules.

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>>16144380
Yes, I did it myself. As for what it does it is a mystery.

>>16144388
>>16144395 is what i meant.

>>16144390
>Around 100k fuel total

Man thats insane and im thinking i am unlucky for spending 30-40k fuel for clearing E4.

Maybe some gimmick realy exist like unlocking LBAS or Debuff

>>16144390
>100k fuel
If I can't do it in 5-6 days I'm dropping to kuso, fuck it.

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>>16144418
You can use light fleet for shorter route and less cost if you want :^)

>>16144418
Medium is pretty comfy and you still get decent rewards. Assuming you have a spare flight deck, it's a sensible alternative.

>>16144418
Go for Medium if you have a spare flight deck.

Those who completed E4 hard, how much fighter power did you use?

>>16144441
Oh, shit. Are those Kancolle shoes?

>>16144437
>choose a heavy fleet and get fucked by Wo
>choose a light fleet and get fucked by cancermarines
balans))))))))))))
))))))))))))))))))))))

>>16144440
>>16144444
For better or worse, I do have a spare, after an even more hellish E6 in summer 2015, limited to 2-3 sorties a day, but that was hellish because I was lacking a lot of shit, including most of the ships everyone else was using and yasen equipment.

S ranking combined fleet maps is fucking cancer.

>>16144456
KanColle is fucking cancer.

e4 2nd half is absolute shit, why would they have a random sub node

>>16144441
Things like this will never cease to baffle me. Those are products aimed at complete nerds, who would ever wear a bag with silly anime browser game print? And it costs a fortune.
Normalfags won't buy this because they don't want it and nerds who want it don't have the money. It completely fails as merchandise Who thought this was a good idea?

Can you get Nimu in this event?
I want her with Sara-chi in my fleet.

>>16144468
People clearly do buy it or else they wouldn't bother with this.

>>16144289
Pola is a precious creature for the fleet and to be enjoyed

>>16144468
>nerds who want it don't have the money
Shirou?

>>16144471
Event exclusive ships never return the very next event. You gotta wait at least Spring for her return.

>>16144441
2160 yen for a shitty cup, this is ridiculous.

>>16144468
>nerds who want it don't have the money
You know that figmas cost like 10-15k yen each? At least you can wear the wallet and the shoes, those don't make you look like a nerd.
Maybe use the bag at home to keep your top-grade KanColle wine in it?

I plan to farm Asakaze on E-4 transport route in hard mode because she just need 30 S rank for 50% dropping curve. Is it a good idea to do that?
Do I need every support for doing this?

>>16144441
Shillcollec

>>16144450
>Shoes
Old news. The wine and leather goods are questionable, but people might have a use for the printed stuff if they like the girls enough (??).

>>16144468
>nerds who want it don't have the money
Not every KanColle nerd is an unemployable shut-in. The guys who hang out on Nico are a bit closer to "normalfag" then those that hang out on imageboards, for example.

>>16144468
Kancolle is pretty much a normie game in nipland.

For E3 debuff you do not have to get a perfect AS+ on land base air raids twice in the same run, it just has to be 4 times total across any number of attempts.

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we don't deserve a carrier like Sara

>>16144505
I know, right? Sooner or later that picture will show up on gelbooru and I could print this shit myself, for, let's see, 5 bucks.
Same thing for shirts and posters.
Merchandise doesn't make any sense to me.

>>16144508
>Is it a good idea
No.
>Do I need every support for doing this?
Yes if you chip tanaka points at the same time. For pure farming route support is enough.

>>16144508
You can lower to medium to save resource or just farm after clearing E-5Hard since you have 3 nuke ships actually 6 if you include the lesbos and abkm

>>16144525
Or shitty fanart like that.

>>16144536
Is it that easy?

Is 3DD+1CL+2CAV good for first phase of E4?

>>16144548
Yes, with route support it's the most cost-efficient method.

>>16144548
Isn't it pointed out on the wikis?

Is DMM down for everyone or just me?

>>16144543
E5 is easier than E4

>>16144548
I used 2DD1CL2CAV1CV and still went the short route every time. Got AS on all nodes with 3xReppu 1xMurata 2xfloatplane Zero.

>>16144557
fine for me, also starting E-4 H actual boss gauge. time to see what the fuss is about

My Afro-American friends. Where can i farm LBAS chevorns this event?

>>16144563
She's asking for it!

>>16144582
E-2 early on.

I think E-5 as well.

>>16144561
Doesn't a CV leads to D?

Will 3 armored carriers +anyone else be enough for E-5?
Or do I need use save Kaga for Fighter power squeezing? I plan to use her in E4 with Akagi and other unryuus.

>>16144602
I use 2 armored carriers and 2CVL and it's decent. Keep in mind that you need ~600FP to be safe on boss node.

>>16144602
2CV(B) is actually enough for E-5 anon. You need to worry more on your fast CVLs.

>>16144611
Shit, I only have Chiyoda and Shouhou left.

>>16144608
>>16144611
Noted, so I can use Taihou for this one, correct?
As for fast CVL, I have Ryuujou and Chiyoda left, so maybe safe?

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Left or right?

>673 air power
>still got taiha at air node
Bullshit

>>16143974
It was only hard for retards who actually thought that bringing heavy fleet is a good idea. ChiChi's are enough. It took me a good number of tries, but at least I didn't spend "100k fuel".

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>>16144212
She's super cute and glad she's remembered.

>>16143895
>https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8
Ded link since youtube is down.

I need help with a decision. Because I fucked up E-1 shiplock I only have shit DDs left for E-2 and E-3. I've tried running E-2N with pic related (also tried MInazuki instead of Akigumo, same result), but I taiha at second node. Leveling a DD from level 1 to level 70 in 4-3 would take 112 runs (assuming I don't go to J) and cost around 12.5k fuel and 15.2k ammo. Right now I have 110k fuel but only 59k ammo. Also I'm not sure if I'd have enough time.
Should I try leveling something like Akatsuki or just go easy mode? Please help, I have no idea what I should do.

>>16144611
Well, not him but I got mad at E-4 and locked almost everyone there.
Time to upgrade my AV Chiyoda and scrap her after E-5.

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Thank you Myouko, Shitgure didn't cut in once.

>>16144650
Got a new one?

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>>16144651
forgot pic.

>>16144620
>>16144631
the fast CVLs are there as fighter mules and for fast fleet route which avoids sub node but also sacrifice an extra punch since you need remove Nagato. But some people say Sakawa + Prinz is enough.

>>16144650
I want to protect Wo-chan's smile

>>16144611
>CVB
I think know Shinano was added.

>>16143737
>>16143636
I had multiple runs where the bitch survived the battle with ~60 HP despite five strong oASW and my T4 users dealing 3-10 damage to her before I gave up on S ranking that shitty map. Managed to get an S rank on final kill and it was the only fight where I saw a hit above 50 damage. I'll check back with fBB after clearing whole event, thanks for the input. Still, the ASW damage cap should be raised.

>>16144656
No, like whole youtube is down.

>>16143885
>>16143894
>>16143898
>>16143915
You have to kill the flagship of escort fleet to get rid of them in yasen. It doesn't fucking matter what you do with rest of escort fleet.
Get your shit together anons, I don't even have a single enemy CF map unlocked and I already know this.

>>16144675
Its not.

>>16144657
The DD isn't going to make the difference between failing and clearing, Akigumo or any remodelled DD that isn't a Mutsuki will be enough.

>>16144675
Works for me, maybe your country fucked up something.

>>16144676
So if all the escort enemies except the escort flagship is dead, you can't access the enemy main fleet?

>>16144676
>You have to kill the flagship of escort fleet to get rid of them in yasen.
That's wrong.

>>16144682
Ah, you're right. Only Großgermania connection to google is fucked.

is there a LOS requirement for E-4 HP gauge
Tone/Vernify/Duck/RJ/Abukuma/Italia got turned down and went south instead of boss node

>>16144676
>I don't even have a single enemy CF map unlocked and I already know this.

Yeah except that's wrong because I had runs where I didn't even damage the flagship and fought the main fleet, and runs where I sunk the flagship but still fought the escorts.

>>16144700
Should've built more liquor factories m8

>>16144681
>Akigumo or any remodelled DD that isn't a Mutsuki will be enough.
Then the fleet I posted should get me through normal, but I didn't get past the second node in the last runs I did..

>Spends 4 hours figuring E3 Debuff for Hard
>When I can actually totally wipe boss even without debuff

someone slap me.

>>16144729
Yeah, it's not even that hard to bruteforce.

>>16144729
Yeah, I tried once debuffing but realized how much of a waste of time, effort and resources it would be and just did E3.

>>16144676
>>16144705
Maybe you need to taiha one of the 2nd and 3rd ships in the main fleet?
Something like IBS E-4 but reversed, though I doubt the devs would want to remember that map.

OK, I need some more input for E4 and E5 planning.
As I see so far, the recommendation for E5 would be KitaOoiABKM because of opTorp, 2 fast CVL, Crane sisters, Crossroad trio with Iowa tagging along, Bisko if fast fleet needed, Duki?
For E4, it would be Yamato class or Pasta BB, Taihou, Kaga, Akagi and Unryuu?

>>16144749
I recommend Iowa on E4 while saving Bisko for any E5 stuff.
You either choose Sakawa for nuclear DA or ABKM for TCI+opTorp

>>16144768
Fuck off with your amerifat boats.

>>16144684
Yes.

>>16144687
I already saw people killing everything except escort flag getting escort fleet in yasen.

>>16144705
There must be some other variable then. Maybe each map has different rules.

Is E-5 like one of the earlier maps in the event where one of the bases can only be used to defend?

>>16144779
maybe the main fleet got damaged too much, you have to A rank at least the escort fleet maybe B rank

>>16144789
Yup. Out of three available bases you can send only two.

>>16144796
Then I'm glad I haven't wasted my time trying to send out all three, but this is still bullshit.

>>16144789
Two bases must be allocated to air defense yes

It's not like you are relying much on air support anyway given that even if you get the second starting point, the Land Base doesnt move. Which likely means that if you were to use an escort, you most likely would only reach preboss node since they are so far away from your Land Base

>>16144796
Oh, you can send two? Woops, but my base doesnt even have enough range anyway

>>16144796
Feels like the devs still didn't implement the raids properly so now it is mandatory to keep one in defense to make you feel like you are actually protecting something.

Has anyone gotten a Shoukaku drop anywhere?

>>16144815
Yeah, not on the event maps though.

>>16144822
Unlucky.

I was hoping the event would give me a better chance than 5-4.

>>16144815
5-4 every time I go level up a dupe dragon.

Are you guys using surface or carrier task force to S rank A?

>>16144815
I am reminded that it was only later in my TTK career that I eventually got Shoukaku. I had already gotten Zuikaku by that point a few times geez

I don't have started the event yet and I don't have too much free time in these days.
Would be a crime if do on easy?

>>16144846
I don't fully understand why I myself give a shit about this meme medal.

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>>16144563

these pics always get me

>>16144851
The meme medal doesn't look too bad, it's E4 that sounds like a shitfest. I still need to do E3 but I have to sleep on just doing E4 on medium.

>>16144859
Don't you want the meme deck?

>>16144815
I got a Zuikaku drop on E-5 boss so maybe Shoukaku could drop there.

>>16144863
Something as useful as the catapult cannot be a meme.

What's the fastest way to get a duki to level 40?

>>16144863
Not really, I've had one sitting in my items list for however long. The question is, will I want a second one at a later date, and the answer is probably no, because it's not like they implement new things at a reasonable speed. So is the pain of a stupid map worth that risk?

>>16144871
How do you usually level up DD's?

>>16144815
Got her just a week before this event and it was through construction as she just wouldn't drop at 5-4.

>>16144871
The usual ways to level DDs, exercises.

>>16144870
>useful
Even if you will need it, the devs will add a new quest or the kusos would complain.
It's purely for dupe cranes but the devs will never confirm it so it stays there as a meme deck along with the other one.

>>16144875
PvP, but muh daily limitation.

Is using a formation other than line ahead at Wo and Ru nodes a meme?

Does E2 sub cheese still work or was it hotfixed? Is there any other place worth using them?

>>16144926
E-4.

>>16144926
Subcheese still works.

Is E-2 a good place to farm Yamakaze?
I have limited ressources so I'll like to avoid farm on higher level.

Do I seriously need over 600 AS for E3 hard?
What bullshit.

>>16144941
>600+ AS

Its easy anon with 2CV+2CVL
Have both CV hold 2 Blues 2 Greens and CVLs with 1 Blue 3 Greens

>>16144941
How is it bullshit? You'll be taking 2CV 2CVL anyways.

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>actually survive to reach last node
>this happens
I'm having a breakdown.

>>16144952
(Wake me up)

>>16144889
Exactly. Hell, you could argue that it's better to clear E4 on Medium for the 10-range plane. Lord knows the next event might have 12/13-range boss nodes.

>>16144952
I read in the other thread you need 19 LoS (33 formula) to get there. Did you?

>>16144949
I think it's pretty high for the third map, goodbye epik bombing strike I guess.

Well, I suppose I can just use boss support for that.

>>16144952
LOS needs to be like 20 or something.

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God that was annoying.

>>16144934
I keep seeing E4 mentioned but which part of E4 and can you use a full fleet of subs or am I being rused?

>>16144977
>>16144986
I had 20.4. Do you think 26 will suffice?

>>16144978
Its not that crazy with an akizuki class AACI

>>16144993
The boss.

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JUST

>>16144994
I believe I did it at 22 or was it 23.

>>16144992
What was the conditions you fulfilled in the end? I'm done with 3 S Rank on node A, I got 2 white message with air raid (first raid every day, 2 different runs).

Wiki state you have to S rank 2 nodes among C, D, E but I don't see any jp source mentioning node E.

>>16145000
Nigga you could have just done the math before

>>16145004
I left A for last since. You need to S rank C, D, AND E for hard.

>>16145011
I was thinking that as I entered the node.

>>16144804
So even if I put a Taitei-chan on them they won't reach the boss?

So I'm about to get to last dance with light fleet in E4H, what do I do next? Roll out the big guns?

>>16145025
Build a Tanaka shrine.

>>16145021
Only land bombers can make it and that would be a bad idea for them.

Post your E4 boss clear compositions please.

Just curious anons what are you drinking while doing this event? coffee, energy drink,vodka,etc.?

>>16145055
My own tears.

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How have Nip players reacted to the burger planes being garbage?

>>16145055
What does it matter?

Do Duki duplicates drop from E-1? I've done about 100 runs so far with no luck.

I've just sent 2000 fuel down the shitter by forgetting to swap out the bombers I used on Taihou for sparkling for fighters.

>>16145059
"Oh, great planes for 5-4 mvp control!"
idk really
Does it matter?

>>16145012
Did you do perfect air defense with your bases within a single run, or 2 instaces in any run are enough?

>>16145055
Moscato.

>>16145073
Yeah, got 2nd Akizuki and 1 Hatsuzuki from 40 runs.

>>16145060
He's a /vg/ shitter where blogging is common.

>>16145073
>100 runs so far with no luck.
You have something better to do? Keep trying.

>>16145078
No, I did it in separate instances because I couldn't trust it to get perfect defense twice in a the same sortie.

>>16145080
>>16145082
Alright I'll keep at it. Farming E-1 easy is basically free anyway.

>>16145059
They think skilled pilots are going to be a thing while also adding named foreign pilots and units from other countries.

They seem to be wondering why none of the stronger ones got in. Like the F4U F6F F8F SB2C A-1.
Especially since both Italy and Germany got stronger ones.
Even though the FW 190 kai and Re. 2005 is pure fantasy.

>>16145087
I'm glad the nips at least have some common sense.

>>16145084
Alright, thanks.

Man, I'm really getting sick of the double wo kai node.

>>16145088
meant for>>16145059

>>16145088
I doubt it since we don't even have all the Japanese aces yet. Most likely we will get a better American planes from quests or through Akashi. I prefer quests.

>>16145088
My theory would be that since Graf and Aquila were the only carriers Italy and Germany had, it was Tanaka's only chance to introduce carrier aircraft from those countries.

Saratoga, on the other hand, was one of many US carriers and definitely one of the older ones. Newer and better US aircraft will probably come with future US carriers.

>>16145090
I mean, we are flooded with skilled pilot items and Saratoga has some training ship background. Anyone with any semblance of foresight can see where the devs are going with this.

>>16145099
You could think right? But as soon as Tanaka gave Dauntless the stats it deserved some idiots threw a fit.

>>16145087
>>16145094
>>16145098
>>16145099
I think I'll settle for grinding the burger planes we already have for chevrons. Knowing Tanaka, any future burger planes will be locked behind the hard difficulties on future events.

>>16145098
Or a K2 since Saratoga was Renovated enough to operate her country's newer, more powerful, and larger planes. Though Yoshinori has never drawn one before. Or the planes could just come from quests or worse Akashi.
Also while there were no doubt talented pilots from America. Having a squadron full of elites was usually never a thing for them. There are exceptions like the Fabulous fifteen but those are rare. It would honestly just make more sense to trade in the American planes through quests for better ones.
>>16145102
I like the Dauntless but it's stats really do make sense. Plus it gives accuracy so I can't really complain.

>>16145102
The problem is that people are used to seeing the high tier planes like Suisei Egusa, Tenzan Murata and Iwamoto. They have forgotten what they used as starter planes like the regular Suisei, Tenzan and Zero, so they compare an equipment equal to the base form to the IJN's best pilots. It's just pure stupidity.

>>16145113
>Knowing Tanaka, any future burger planes will be locked behind the hard difficulties on future events.
Nah that will just be Bearcat and any burger planes that were in development but couldn't get out in time. Like the A-1.

>>16145102
>>16145116
>>16145119
The real problem is that they expect us to bust our asses for equipment whose scrap value exceeds it usefulness.

>>16145119
dauntless is 2 stars just like suisei but has worse stats even though jap dive bombers were supposed to be crap. likewise hellcat is 3 stars like 109 and lepu, but with only half the aa.

>>16145149
>likewise hellcat
There is no Hellcat in the game that we can get, only Wildcat.

>>16145149
The Wildcat (F4F), not the Hellcat (F6F) was shit and everyone knew it

>>16145151
And there never will be.

>>16145140
Sara gives you the stock equipment, so now you can cruise on easy.

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Should I bother with fcf? Is there any reason to take 2clt over 2ca in the second fleet? Did I do anything overly stupid here?

>>16145149
Stars can be added simply because of extra stats, it just determines how rare the item is at the time of introduction. The proto 41cm is weaker than the 46cm despite having an extra star and the only thing being better about it is having 2 accuracy. Also we Wildcat != Hellcat. The wildcat was shit.

>>16145157
Don't bother with FCF.

You won't get shit on by the air nodes as long as you have 650+ Air power and get the occasional Ducky AACI.

>>16145155
But doing an event on easy is the biggest sin of all: 4chan told me so.

Besides, it's not like players are actually gonna use Sara's stock equipment.

>>16145149
>F4F-4
>Hellcat.
It's the first foldable wing variant of Wildcat.

Dauntless has two stars because Devs decided the extra accuracy point(among other placebo stats) made it worth more than the type 99.

>>16145165
You'll need it when they're upgradeable to skilled planes.

>>16145163

That's what I figured, seemed like protecting bb firepower was more important. Do you think using ro44 on mogami is overkill?

>>16145157
I don't think you need worst Takaos

>>16145162
>>16145152
FM-2 variant was actually not that bad as far as Wildcats go.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. GO TO HELL TANAKA YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.
I thought I was the chosen one because my KCV was still working perfectly even after the event started but no, it seems I merely got lucky and didn't encounter the problems immediately. When I restarted KCV two hours ago suddenly all the fleet info etc. disappeared. I have downloaded Yuubari as an alternative and it thankfully works but...

Yuubari fork is so crap, fuck.
The font sucks.
No hover menu for exp to remodel/lv99/lv155.
The hover menu for damage only shows dock time and doesn't display time with Akashi for ships like lv99 BB.
The hover menu for ship stats is utter shit, barely covers half of the stats and doesn't include eq.
This trash can't even remember size of the window, so I have to stretch it every fucking god damn time I restart this awful shitty program because otherwise I won't see morale condition whenever I use someone with a long name in the fleet.
There's zero information about the route which sucks horribly for maps like 1-1, 2-2, 2-3, 5-1 and to lesser extent basically every other one.
The author is a moron who thinks sortieing with 30-39 morale is bad but luckily it's possible to cheat the system and put 31 as desired value.
It can only display two resources while gakada showed all eight. At least they're configurable but it still sucks.
There are only three tools and they aren't even translated.

At least there are some positives like actually counting seaplane fighter air power, including upgrade values in air power and the 33 LoS formula. The eq list is much tighter too, big plus. If not for those I would throw Yuubari into garbage bin right where it belongs and switch to the accursed Wikiajew'sbotnet改.

>>16145174
Guess you'll have to kill yourself.

>>16145168
Not really no.

If you have any better CA's replace Takao and Agano though, their lvls are my only complaint.

>>16145167
You mean upgradeable to newer USN planes through quests right? Or Akashi.

>>16145178
Either or but yes, you'll need them at that time.

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>>16145175
You didn't even read my post ;_;

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are these subs high enough level for e2? I have 4 obs planes but they aren't upgraded so I don't know if I have enough los. I have 2 fat and 1 53cm, but otherwise my torpedo situation is no good either.

>>16145176

Should I use bobs or choukai then? I was worried if I needed to save them for e4/e5.

>>16145182
Yeah, you're right. I read this one, though.

>>16145178
It's going to be the same plane but with a skilled title like Zero to Skilled Zero.

>>16145154
You know this how?

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>>16145186
Thank you.

>>16145180
Does the debuff make a big difference on E-3 hard?

The boss is a bit tough but I'm not sure if I want to lock more girls here to explore all the fucking map.

>>16145182
Why would anyone even read it? It's pretty obvious from the size and format that it's a waste of time and you're just shitposting.

>>16145185
I used Haguro, Choukai and Myouko in my run, saved Maya just in case I needed her later; but yeah, Bobs and Choukai work.

>>16145192
It's actually quite comprehensive list of differences between KCV forks.

>>16145188
Since when are Americans known for Skilled squadrons? There were definitely talented individuals.

>>16145191
Er, didn't mean to quote, sorry.

>>16145198
I don't know what it will be called, but it's going to be the equivalent. A straight upgrade to a better plane is pointless when they can just be hard mode rewards or rank rewards.

>>16145191
I'm cruising E-3Hard without debuffs.

For some reason the wiki has SS Hime on medium boss node for E-5. Is this for real or are they high?

>>16145209
I saw someone doing medium and it's just wikia being wikia.

>sink 4 escorts
>still meet escorts at night
Welp.

>no graf drop
Why?

>>16145214
And I can't fix it either because of their retarded policy, great.

>>16145217
Need to sink the flagship.

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>>16145205
But the Devs already decided that American planes given through ranking reward will be shittier ones than the ones we already have.

>>16145219
You should have made an account before. I made a policy to never help them regarding events so don't count on me but there surely are other anons capable of editing. If there's anything else, just say.

>>16145184
You only need 34 LoS for guarantee routing. And it depends, if its on easy, any torp can get the job done, on hard it may be a different story.

>>16145225
That was just me making a guess, I don't actually know nor did they state that it was for rankings.

>>16145232
34 is more than you need on 2-5, that's a lot.

>>16145233
Well it could always be unimplemented quest.

Goddammit, all these "rare" DD drops are making me buy more slots.

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>>16145209
>community experts

>>16145241
From over 30 sorties clearing E-1,E-2, E-3 the only "rare" ship i got was Kamikaze. You must be lucky.

>>16145192
How is that in any way shitposting?

>>16145235
One more than 2-5 IIRC with 33? Yeah that is pretty bad.

>>16145256
Yeah, you need 33 on 2-5. Hard to achieve if you want to bring yasen gear or get AS during Bm7.

Wait, so Crossroads ships don't just do nuclear damage to the boss but to any enemy? Nagato single attacked BB Hime for 274.

>>16145261
Yes

>>16145261
Yes, slowpoke.

>>16145261
Yes.

She can pretty much almost one shot any of the Himes at Chuuha too.

>>16145267
>>16145268
>>16145271
Holy shit this event is awesome. Finally Nagato gets the respect she deserves instead of more fast fleet or shitty useless hotel shilling.

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>>16145163
>Don't bother with FCF.

Nah it's got its uses.

(my Souryuu got raped at preboss here)

>>16145261
Yeah. Pretty much. We have pictures of Prinz doing meme damage.

>>16145274
Yeah, I love this mechanic. It makes sense and has clear rules. Great stuff.

>>16145278
Fuck off.

>>16145276
I personally never had anyone going Taiha pre-boss, worst was Haguro as Flagship going Chuuha, still S'd the boss.

>>16145274
>use Nagato on E5
>beautiful DDs overkills
>first one to go taiha on boss node
She need to work a little bit harder to gain my respect.
t. Fusou-class fag

>>16145283
Maybe debuffing makes the air nodes gentler?

Or maybe I just have bad luck. More likely.

>>16145276

I only had bad luck on the boss itself. 3 taihas from opening strike, killed everything except the boss. Just didn't have any guns left to attack it.

>>16145294
I didn't debuff because it seemed like a waste of time.

Most likely the RNG, a few people I've talked have also got shit on by the air nodes.

>>16145294
I debuffed and felt that only the boss node got weaker and missed more often.

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If the Crossroad ships have a bonus at E5, would some ships have similar boost in E4?

In terms of artist quality, how would you all rank them? For me, I cant clearly rank them but Yoshinori and Fumikane are my favorites generally

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>>16145314
Only these ships are important

>>16145323
I've never thought about ranking them but I can confidently say JiJi has been growing on me.

>>16145323
shibafu numbah one

Can I have the ass wall back instead of five cancer nodes in E4?

I've had no computer for a week. I am a relatively new player (HQ level 50, no ships over level 60). This is my first event. I am guessing that it is impossible to get Saratoga at this point since I haven't been able to play and I'm too new and low level. Yes?

I don't want to waste time I can spend doing more important tasks if I have no hope of completion anyway.

>>16145341

You can try the first three maps. At least get Colgate Paste if only because you can, and try to farm the first map for some good drops.

>>16145341
If you have a smartphone, you can try getting the mobile version

>>16145323
Fujikawa, and Yoshinori. I like Akira's designs for Abyssals. Fumikane is fine too.
>>16145328
I like Pola and Aquila looks good too.

>>16145341
While you can't get Saratoga, you're still better off clearig and farming the early maps, event maps always have better drops than normal.

>>16145341
At least try to farm E3 for Mizuho, so you can easily do 3-5.

>>16145341
When you're new the point of events isn't to complete it, it's to get as far as you can and get as many rare drops as possible. At least aim for E-3 clear.

>>16145341
The new seaplane carrier, will be an immense help. Do E-3 if possible. Alternatively farm E-1 on easy.

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If only you could use slow BBs in the escort, I'd totally level up this one and use dupe Nagatos in E-5.

>>16145341
Focus on farming E1 easy until you get Akizuki, Hatsuzuki and Akashi. After you get all three, start thinking about doing other maps. Keep the dupes for eq if you get some.
Any of those three ships is worth more than Saratoga and all the other event rewards combined.

>>16145314
Poor Lex.
Just how many times was Saratoga announced dead?

>>16145323
Honestly I'm fine with all of them these days except Shibafu, Yadokari, Ichiso and Rikka (Fusous just look weirder with every new sprite).

>>16145345
>>16145348
>>16145351
>>16145354
>>16145356
>>16145358
>>16145364
Noted

>>16145367
In Japan? Apparently 4 times during the war.
Enterprise even more.

>>16145323
Fujikawa = Kuro > Parsley = Conishi > Abyssal Akira > bob > Ugume > Yoshinori > Jiji > Humikane > Souta > drew > Yadokari > human Akira >>> Kuso >>>>>> Shibafu = the one who draws Fusou >>>>>>> Ayaki
Honorable mention to Amamiya, she needs to redraw Shiratsuyu class.

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At this point, I need to reconsider whether I'm still clearing E-4 on hard. I need Saratoga more than I need a second catapult and I'm risking getting neither.

>>16145378
Event's end is weeks away.

>>16145232
I think I only have 22 with that. do I need 6 planes? I wanted to do e-2 on medium at least for the planes.

>>16145377
>top2
Opinion discarded.

>>16145378
You still have 2 weeks.

If you spent a week just restocking you can just kuso for Saratoga if you honestly think you can't beat E4.

>>16145373
>Rikka (Fusous just look weirder with every new sprite).
Being a Yamashirofag is suffering.

>>16145390
Yeah, they are starting to look like tall lolis or something.

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Apparently Tanaka will sit on a design for a year.
So there's still hope for "dead artists"

>>16145395
The Curious Case of Benjamin Fusou

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>>16145384
Kuro keeps getting better, Fujikawa gives me a /k/ boner I never knew existed. I can't put one over the other.

>>16145399
Where's my Shouhou Kai 2?

>>16145410
why does akitsumaru look like a zombie? is she supposed to be a jiangshi?

>>16145359
We had abused double Yamato in Spring 2014, so they disabled it.

>>16145417
Because she's an army dog.

How do you reliably kill the escort fleet on e3? I wasn't able to night battle the boss 3 times in a row now.

FFS, I'm tired of Tanak's fetish with wo kai. After being screwed left and right in E4, node G is literally shitting on my fleet every time, even with maya AACI, 580 FP and a map support fleet.

Can they just stop this shit for once? I can't believe I almost spend 20K just for the new starting point and I'm not even done because node D.

>>16145425
Use boss support.

>>16145425
Support and land bases usually take care of them.

>>16145422
There was no combined fleet in Spring 14.

>>16145430

You can't land base on e3.

>>16145399
But not for their grandmothers. RIP in pieces.

>>16145399
And yet Iowa only took since months since planning and implementation in the Vita. I bet Sara was done right after Iowa, too.

>>16145399
For what purpose?

>>16145431
Then some event in 2014. Summer?
I remember I did it myself.

>>16145440
>since month
Six months*

>>16145442
Summer and Fall 14 you could take heavy ships in escort.