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Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Quiz of Valkyrie:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/quizofwalkure/

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

Shooting Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wiki.kanmuryou.com/shooting-girl/index.php

Idol Wars Z:
>Jp Wiki
http://idolwarsz.com/

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

DMM

X-Overd:
>Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?
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>>16094860
I assume it's intended, but it's name seems to still be in Japanese with the MoriMori so it probably isn't supposed to be released yet.
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Should I SAW the Black Samurai we got for the event? The uptime on her skill goes down dramatically, but I'd like to know what the game considers whatever google translates as "monsters," because that sounds quite a bit less specific than "spectres" and seems like it would be more useful. Also I have no idea what the part added to the skill is (you tried google.) "Other party changes to demon off" means nothing to me.
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>>16095158
I don't think it's a good idea, the multiplier increase is not really worth the 30-second increase in cooldown.

The bonus damage is against youkai in both cases. For the record, her SAW is "attack and defense 2.3x, further bonus of 1.4x against youkai, skill changes to "Onikiri" after use".
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>>16094804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1qezT-Uero
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>>16095158
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Hibari
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Got to feel bad for Mirabillis and Lavender, they get their event page and game icon stolen by Blue Lotus for some ungodly reason.

She doesn't even appear in either events.
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>>16095158
I've been debating that one myself. It's effectively a one-use skill since it goes back to her normal multipliers after one use, but there's a much bigger cooldown between the two until you can start using her normal skill again.

I've more or less decided it's not that good and I'm probably not going to bother.
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What's the initial verdict on BGR? What about the new game coming?
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>>16096963
Can't speak for BGR, didn't bother. X-Overd is one of the most popular games on 18+ DMM (currently ranked at #6), though. Seems to be similar to Hitsuji in battles, but you basically have specific characters you can change jobs for, and better (higher rarity) jobs mean better units. Haven't played it, but it sounds neat. It apparently has split gachas for male and female units and you can't roll any dupes, from what I remember another anon saying.

Someone who plays can feel free to correct me.
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>>16097026
You still roll dupes until you max limit break that single class, then it won't appear in the gacha pool anymore.
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Who do I awaken next, guys?
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>>16098259
Grania for great MA and uber skill awaken, next Mehlis, because she's awesome cute and will abuse Grania's AW pasive.
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>>16098259
I'm a big fan of Mehlis and her SAW, but you have Garania and I can't deny she's good. Also Odette's recent rebalance gave her incredibly high attack.

So I dunno, pick a mage and have fun.
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>>16098259
Did you already awaken estelle?
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>>16098259
Elfpucci, toggle switch between heal and mage is great
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>>16098321
My only other "mage" is Eterna.
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>>16098259
Bishop.
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Finally managed to even barely fully beat lvl5 Furfur. Sure feels good but I can't even imagine how annoying the rest from here up are if this is already this hard.
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>>16098907
I don't know about now, but the first time around absolutely nobody could beat level 15 without goddess buffs afaik.
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niggers
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Does anyone actually use these? I have so many star trial units sitting on their asses getting no use
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>>16099099
Sukuha, Faa and Kokoro are very useful, if you are freemium.
Sukuha is my only mincost princess and she has pretty good skill.
Faa is great tank for ranged attacks.
Kokoro saved my ass in many kami event maps with her skill.
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>>16099099
Only one I have yet to use alot is the maid, but she can buff up your bandits, rogues, thieves and pirates in different ways just keeping her in the team. I tend to use her most for the bandit buff.
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>>16099099
the princess is fairly useful in that her skill gives her a ranged attack that is only 10% less attack increase than Claudia's SAW with 20 more range. Duration is a lot shorter but it's comparing a normal skill to awakened skill, the awakened skill is even better. She's great if you don't have a good magic fencer.
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Finally did it.
Shino turned out to be kinda useful because she doesn't get hit back by counter-attacks.
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>>16099099
I use Fa, Sukuha and Kokoro aplenty. The other two though, never used.
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Choginga launched again.
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>>16099099
Sukuha's pretty solid, honestly. A great princess unit. I see Faa used sometimes in videos, but I don't have her myself. If you check Sennen's videos, Kokoro is used all the fucking time, and for good reason. Her skill is incredibly useful.
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>>16099429
Like, launched launched or just launched a new testing period? I'm seeing the gamma version in my game list and the main game's link just takes me to the pre-reg gacha.

I mean if the gamma test will carry over to launch that's one thing, but if they're just gonna wipe it all again I'll keep waiting.
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>>16099663
Its gamma-test, but opening warning said units will carry over.
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>>16099669
Oh, cool, thanks. Guess I should stop ignoring it now.
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>>16088705
Man, you're right. I read through the translations last night and this event is really depressing. Prince is, as always, unintentionally an asshole, destroying relationships wherever he goes.
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>>16099886
I hope they make sweet reunion event in Lapis' h-scenes.
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Choginga is so stupid. It's up only for 3 days and frontier is already waaaaaay too far to reach it for newb like me.
In half a year every single square within hundreds of first constellations will be thoroughly explored, how its going to last considerable time?
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There we go. Finally got everyone I wanted again after finding out I was going to get a free Anri no matter what. At this point I'll just roll toward that 30 million roll bonus.
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I work an awful job playing crappy mobile games. There is nothing going for me. I hope I am able to muster the courage to commit suicide before I hit 30.
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>>16100512
nobody cares, m8
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If I want a gunner, should I go for Kanon or Janna?
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>>16100646
Imo, Kanon is better.

Kanon
+Higher attack (post AW, anyway)
+Massive burst damage with SAW
+Event unit, therefore easily minmaxable
+Cute
-Shorter range with post-AW ability
-Base skill isn't very good

Janna
+Consistently high splash
+Potentially higher dps with AW ability
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Wow, she actually looks cute for once
I wonder why the game died on nutaku if it prints money on dmm
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>>16100763
>she actually looks cute for once
Navi is always cute, you damn heretic.
>I wonder why the game died on nutaku
Nutaku didn't had an stablished fan base that DMM have, also for some reason the jap devs decided to stop givin content to the users, what is more weird is that it happened weeks after they started reverting the boob jobs....so maybe the rotten fish is over there.
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>>16100763
>I wonder why the game died on nutaku if it prints money on dmm

I don't. Looking at their other games makes me just wonder why they haven't yet.
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How much worse is the 7 stamina map compared to the 12 stamina one? The 7 stamina one has plat fairies so I wanna farm it if possible.
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>>16101187
On average it should be pretty much the same, but then you have to deal with a second layer of RNG (actually getting Lucia to drop).
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I'm excited. Is there any particular gacha that I should wait for? I want a black tier loli if possible.
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>>16101270
Aisha, Iris are only cheat-tier units and they're happen to be loli
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>>16101289
>the most broken units in the game are lolis
it really makes you think maybe originally nutaku wanted balance and a more challenging game so this whole loli ban was just an excuse but then they realized westerners were casuals and would rather plow through everything
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>>16101187
It may not help since you want to farm plat fairies, too, but remember that you can give up on the 7 stam if you don't get Lucia to drop and get 3 stamina and some charisma back. That'll make your stamina go further.
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>>16101384
But how do you have a challenging game when there's no content?
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How is エルヴぁ? Worth getting once?
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>>16101907
Do it for the SCs and if you have stamina you don't know what to use on crystals to save up for something useful.
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OK, so I've tried figuring this out on my own but I've gotta be missing something and I've been too scared to talk in Discord.

How can I pick up my 3 stars on levels where my girls just won't hit every pest? I've shifted their starting positions around in every conceivable pattern but nothing seems to do it.
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>>16102111
RNG gonna RNG. Keep at it.
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>>16102111
Speed modulation with Red Ginger, Oncidium, Dipladenia, Edelweiss, very slow girls like Cosmos and Burnet etc.

But if you mean story maps like 10-5, it's better just not to bother. Both event maps and story maps have eased up on completion requirements after a while, but the existing story maps stay in place so you have a situation where 30-5 is much easier to 3-medal than 10-5.
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>>16102124
Thanks for the encouragement!

>>16102138
Great advice. Gonna try out a new team soon. Thank you.
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>>16102111
Sometimes, you're just at the mercy of the random nodes, and there's nothing you can do that will have a direct effect on whether or not you 3* it.

Best you can do in those cases is work out which team placement gives you the best odds, and just run it until the random nodes cooperate. It's really annoying, yeah.

Sometimes it's a speed thing (i.e. you need slow teams here and fast teams here), but usually it's just RNG.
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>pineapple and kiwi are both golds
Alas, my flower stones. There's still enough time to gather them back until Cacao, right? Right?

And surprisingly, Pomegranate (the last unreleased character from two broadcasts back) isn't in this event.
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>>16101289
This is a meme dating back to when Nutaku Aigis was released. Iris is hardly more broken than a lot of units, for some people Rinne would be stronger. Even back then Aisha was on the same tier as Nanally and Minerva.
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>>16102154
Has FKG really been around that long? 1998?
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>>16102536
Or I assume this is just someone memeing and shitting up the image.
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>>16102536
No, but DMM has.

Also, looks like this week's lineup is Loquat, Pineapple, Kiwi and Orange. Loquat (who is a biwa player because puns) looks to be by Moneti, which is a pleasant surprise.
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What does Gelius SAW do? just increase his block, def and mr?
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>>16102559
And increases his block by 1, but he doesn't attack for the duration. Which can actually be a plus.
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>decided to play Aigis again a while ago
>apparently missed a broken black event unit
Woe is me
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Am I the only one who used to average like 5 drops here but lately...
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>>16102681
DMM or Nutaku?
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>>16102681
If you're talking about Shino, she's not broken (yet), but she's useful for stealth backstabbing.
If it's Hibari, tough luck m8.
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Limited Time Event
- The Urgent Mission "The Druid Shrine Princess" ends
- The Revival Mission "Holy Warrior's Challenge" begins
 Urgent Mission in the past will be revivedas Limited Time Event.
 Your game progress in past Urgent Mission will be succeeded.
 This event period will start after end of Maintenance
 on November 15, 2016 (Tue), and will end
 before begin of Maintenance on November 22, 2016 (Tue)
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>>16102552
There's also a new survey.
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That loli demon summoner is frigging beast.
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>>16103059
Huh, so they're asking for which kind of new pests players want to see. New pests are always welcome, and the latest addition (the diving beetle from Gazania's event) was great, so I'm looking forward to what comes out of this.

Voting longhorn beetle, because longhorn beetles are justice. Some of them can also sting (and potentially deliver venom) using their "horns", though that's still not as horrible as Theronia wasps, which have stinger-claws (that may also deliver venom, because if you're going to evolve a real life Mega Beedrill you may as well go all the way through).
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Did they change how friend power is calculated? Suddenly most of my friends are at 150k
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>>16103226
Probably just apply accessories stat and bonus stuff, thing they should have done age ago.
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>>16103226
>・討伐の「助っ人選択」に表示される戦友以外の数を調整しました。 また、「助っ人選択」に表示される総合力に、好感度ボーナス、各種アンプルゥの効果が適用されるように変更しました。
Ah, found it in release notes. Added aff bonuses and ampules.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kLf6tqu58
Himegari DMM game gameplay preview.
Unfortunately its not TRPG anymore.
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>>16103471
what shit is that supposed to be.
expected more from eushully
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>>16103475
Eushully is not involved in game development and management, they just provided artwork.
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>>16103480
mario and zelda CD-i games were same
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Does Nutaku still censor their shit?
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>>16103495
Kinda.
Recently released BGR had 6 characters censored (boob-jobs and shit in HCG), but after outrage they backtracked and claimed "developers used outdated censor guidelines".
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>>16103495
there is no game that came from DMM that did not get censored
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>>16103505
"Outdated censor guidelines" makes it sound like there are current censor guidelines, which makes the answer to the question yes.
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So I just awakened my second healer on my team and realized I can instantly 2nd awaken her. Any reason not to if I have the resources since levels don't reset? It's not like I'll miss out on stats, unless the stat multiplier per level up changes after 2AW.
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>>16103574
No reason to not to, if you have spare silvers, orbs and gold, go with it.
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There have been some issues surrounding the translations of tomorrow's event. We've decided to launch tomorrow without the translations until these issues are sorted out. At the latest, the events story will be pushed to LIVE once Phase 2 will hit (November 22nd).
We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope that you will continue to lecture through the banners (at least) until the story is pushed.
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>>16103475
>>16103480
It's more or less the same style as their last game and Madou Koukaku, but they stripped off the formation stuff to simplified the gameplay even more.
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>>16103583
Excellent, thanks for the confirmation.
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>>16103603
What type of event is a "gacha" event?
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>level 10 in Aegis Millenium war
>wants pupuru
>only 2 stars and i can't do the second level
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>>16103647
Gacha? this is for FKG, the next event will be untranslated maybe until the 2nd phase.
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>>16103655
is hard?
soldiers healers archers pretty basic
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>>16103655
You started waaaaay too late, maybe if you had started from the second week you would had a chance.
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>>16103664
it is not that hard to clear
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>>16103670
Yeah it's not hard, thats why maybe he would have completed it starting from the second week; He said Lvl 10, that is only like 10 story missions, which is too green to have some units...heck he may even don't know what a bronce heavy armor is.
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>>16103655
Spend some SC on power-levelling, she's not going to come back for a veeeeeery long time, if ever.
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>>16103692
yeah only loli for long time
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>>16103692
Yup, she is one of those units who maybe will never have a revival. Maybe if he just want the CG, could check the sad panda gallery.
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>>16102983
>not Anya

Holy shit they skip revives too, this is both hilarious and depressing.
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>>16103658
Yes. The FKG event spreadsheet says Monotropastrum's event is a "gacha" type event. I'm asking what that is.
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>>16103777
anya revival is probably combined with aria's revival that was later than this armour gal
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>>16103777
Shouldn't that be next, after Maribel?
At least going by the second part.
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>>16103777
They are going through farm type events for revivals only. Not that unexpected, they are treated differently even on DMM, and RC revivals would require changing TP which is a no-no.
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>>16102536
>>16102541
Jeez, I didn't notice the watermark. The image was downloaded from pixiv and hasn't been altered. Maybe DMM was formed in '98?

>>16102162
Yeah, this is kinda the conclusion that I've come to. I've been fiddling around with my teams this morning. Here's hoping!
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>>16103779
You roll her and the dress/skill blooms in the gacha.
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>>16104003
>>16102552
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>>16104013
Using event currency? What else is in the gacha? Seems like a messy kind of event.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxkaXb_5fA

uh
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>>16104067

The event gacha is finite in size. Most of it is filled with coin, manyu and seeds. Your giftbx will get huge.
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>>16104301
Oh god..
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>>16103232
Makes me wonder why it wasn't like this in the first place, just creates unnecessary confusion.
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A heads up for DMM FKG people:

There's currently a quest campaign going on which gives you all sorts of rewards, with a premium gacha ticket if you finish them all.
Unless I'm mistaken, you need to complete 10 daily quests in order to finish one stage, and there's a total of 8 stages. (correct me if I'm wrong, my Japanese isn't the best)
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>>16104642

Confirmed it's daily quests to clear them, and that there's a time limit of 5 days. Time to do all those 1-life crystal quests that I usually skip.

>>16104301

There's a lot I didn't like about SenPro, but I can respect it's a thing that stood the test of time by not dying despite the grindy gameplay. Nutaku may not understand Waifu culture, the value of uncensored art, etc but they at least understand cold hard cash flow.
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>>16104642
Hoping there will be enough bitching from players so they would extend it to at least a week or 2.
6 days to finish 80 daily quests is a bit too tight.
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>>16104783
Dunno, I've finished 20 quests in less than 30 mins and I still have some left to do. I don't think there's a reason to complain.
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Finally, a Calliope to CC Belinda with.
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>>16104301
>not Nutaku.com
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>>16103658
I can post translations here for it after seeing the cutscenes. I don't have a DMM FKG account: Would the scenes still be in the album there to look at ahead of time?
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>>16104971
It's for the story.
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>>16104971
see this
>>16103603
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>>16104809
According to the wiki there should only be 18 dailies a day and you can't really complete all the search ones in 30 minutes.
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>>16102924
It's Hibari. I have Shino.
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Reward is just premium gacha ticket, i.e. 1 draw of premium gacha, with huge chance of bronze/silver, or 5 gems. Very unbefitting of FKG.
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>>16105024
I didn't count the number of dailies, but I got to the third stage. If the table in the patch notes is correct, that should be 21 dailies, or one of the stages is bugged and completed with less than 10 dailies.
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>>16102820
A friend and I have been discussing the dailies recently and we both feel like drop rates have been lowered across the board for every type and difficulty.

>>16103077
She is, and I have really regretted not trying to roll her now that I'm seeing her put to use in videos. But alas, Dina calls for my crystals.
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>>16105042
I only have the search 4 times daily left.

The only thing I can think of is that the event daily quests count and I let them overflow while the first limited quest was complete. I still have 3 of those left so I can check later.
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Is there any benefit to getting more than 21 stars on the druid event? I have 21 but cant beat the last mission
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>>16105102
Are you sure you don't have any quest completions leftover from yesterday? Because they seem to count too.

In any case, awaiting Twitter confirmation about the ticket, because it's weird to hold an event where the ultimate prize is something that you effectively give 20 times over to your users every month.
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>>16105121
You get extra stuff, but the unit herself maxes out at 21.
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>>16105121
Free SCs?
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how does the new FKG even work, I need to buy the teasets using event points?
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>>16105562
Teasets and raid bosses are for event equipment, the rest is bought with map-collected items as usual. You can only defeat one boss per day, but this chance stacks if you don't use it up (so if you waited 4 days you could tackle 4 bosses in a row).

It looks to be a minor spin on old item collection/level-up boss events.
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Which game has the most fappable girls?
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>>16105590
Different anon here, but best as I can tell there are two sets of bosses, one for each half, and they each drop a different equipment set?
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>>16105631
Different art in each game, to please different tastes. Also what I or others find extremely fappable may not be to your pleasure
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Next 2nd awakening class is rogues. They certainly needed it.
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>>16106170
Only one class this time? what a disappointment.
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>>16106170
Having Berna might finally pay off, although I have no idea what they could do with Rogue subclasses other than just generic more tank/damage options.
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>>16106228
I've been using Berna and I've been really impressed with her SAW. In one of the ogre maps I remember she just shredded those ogres running at her.
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>>16106228
I'm guessing Night Assassins will gain an assassination and/or evasion rate bonuses while Enforcers will gain stats and maybe even something like -1 cost or +1 block.
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>>16106170
I'm hoping they implement some of the missing art for healers. I want to 2AW my Saria, but having no new art is kinda boring
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>>16106479
Some characters are still missing 1st AW art. I'm guessing there's only so much they can get certain artists to do.
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>>16106495
New Chydis art when?
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>>16106515
She does technically have different art for her 1st awakening at least.
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should I get the current revival's dark knight? I never used Yurina and their class seems horrendous in general, but maybe they'll get better with 2AW
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What are some other DMM games which have fully voiced content?
The only ones I know of are Kamihime, Dragon Providence and Sengoku Providence. FKG also took the full voicing train after a while if I heard right.
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>don't even have a AW rogue to 2AW
Useless class
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>>16106680
Cuterie and Junon are great to have at AW1.
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Went to sleep and fucking insects completely razed my planet full of level 6 resource buildings. Choginga is fucking hardcore, seems like you can't play solo.
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>>16106680
Loser
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>>16106720
The game is still alive? I thought it got shut down.
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>>16106728
It was shut down, then it restarted as beta-test few months ago, then it restarted as gamma-test 4 days ago and will re-launch again in 20 hours.
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>>16106729
I always wanted to give it a try but came across it too late.
How are things looking right now? Did they balance things out? Is it more popular than before?
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>>16106736
At least now you can "build" droids and there's weekly quest that gives you 1 free premium gacha roll, so you can build up fleet w/out paying.
As for balance, well, as I said, I got completely overwhelmed overnight, and it wasn't distant frontier, it was small sector next to starting one, with 75% exploration rating.
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Is Hana the worst dancer?
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>>16106877
Aisha is worst dancer she trips on her own while walking
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Oh shit Claire is in the nutaku gacha
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Is this real life?
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>>16106948
same fate as Aisha
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>>16106945
>>16106948
Back to back event (revival and normal event) and now putting Claire in, they must be drunk or something.
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oh my god is it finally happening
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>>16106945
>>16106948
>>16106968
B Iris when?
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Can Nutaku even unfuck Aigis after this? I moved to DMM during the Odette drought and am way too far in to move to Nutaku again.
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>>16106975
I'd guess reasonably soon, now that the floodwall is down and they're revisiting skipped units they're gonna want her out to make money.
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>>16106968
Must be some mistake. Expect rollback and 1 SC apology.
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>>16106984
Constant back to back proper events for several months and its unfucked, small problems like the trading post remain but putting old units like they have is one of the big problems gone.

Still doesn't mean you should switch just cause they hypothetically unfuck themselves, they'd need a bit more than that I think.
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>>16106984
>>16106990
playing both is correct answer
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>>16107000
Ain't nobody got time for that
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>>16107001
Aigis requires about 30 minutes per day.
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>>16107001
Up till now it was possible to just rush the monthly nutaku event and then switch over to dmm for the rest of the time. My nutaku team has all the good/broken units so i dont want to abandon it.
But still, even with the recent improvements, dmm version is still lightyears ahead in content, has twice as much stuff going on, doesnt skip entire events and you get literal tons of sc due to daily revivals and apologies.

If nutaku gave me 500sc as apology for all the delays, missed units and skipped events till now and promised with 100% that events and units would flow like dmm then i might consider playing and spending here instead again.
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Rolled 20 SCs from the pile in honor of Misha and Claire and got 4 silvers with no Misha.

Fuck you too Aigis.
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>>16107033
idiot. do you even know your chance to get even one of them?
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A spotlight gold its not that big of a dream you know.
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>>16107037
Desire sensor. I usually get spotlight units one or two weeks after their spotlight is over and i dont even want them anymore. Worked with Lizzy, Marr, Ollivie, Sybilla and many more. During spotlight its usually bait and switch anyway.
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Looks like Pupuru's modest chest stayed modest too.
Anyone has comparison art from DMM just to be perfectly sure?
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>>16107049
some said she is grandmother of some other unit?
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>>16107049
https://exhentai.org/s/5fbaa09d33/990393-350
Same on dmm
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Spammed 18 stamina + 18 stamina from levelup, got only 1 Maribell from guaranteed clear of map 4. Cool drop rates there.
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>>16107239
I got 2.
It wouldn't be as painful if the map that dropped Somas, which I need, would also drop them.
Now I need to grind 2 maps.
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>>16106228
>>16106370
What rogues really need is innate autoretreat, Berna's AW passive can be changed to something else (give all rogues Lulu's nerfed majin ability, maybe).

They have decent offense for a low-cost class, but their dodge is incredibly wonky and they don't have the UP-supporting abilities other early deploys (soldiers, valkyries, vanguard tacticians) do. One subclass giving you +2-3 UP per assassination or something could be neat, making Berna and to some extent Junon passable ramps in some maps.
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Is it possible to rip the hcg of these games ? Tried picking up kamihime then I realized it's basically gbf with a much, much worse grind.
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>>16107727
Yes, but if you don't have a copy of the girl it's time consuming, someone left a guide on how to do it a thread or two ago. If you have a copy of the girl it becomes incredibly easy and quick, but that would defeat the purpose in your case.
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Dokyuusei ~Another World~ is out it seems.

http://dmm.dokyusei-aw.net/
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Ahahaha
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Damn, I've been trying to 3-star the last 90/12 map, but it looks like it's too hard for me without AW Prince or a guide.

Have any of you done or seen someone get 3 stars without AW Prince?
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>>16107941
That demon knows what is going to happen to him, so he decided to fly away.
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>>16107996
On revival event?
Simply use danchou's skill when fatass approaches your tank.
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>>16108017
Sorry, should've been more specific. Lapis' event. Even I can figure out an event as straightforward as Elva's.
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Really hope rogues get something good to make them usable but I highly doubt it. The class itself is just bad.
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>>16107033

I come to /jp/, see Claire banner, log on in who-knows-how-long, roll 3 times, get Claire. I log off. Some point I'll actually click the buttons to CC and give gifts to her.
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>>16107773
Have you a link? Daily login for gacha doesnt seem too bad.
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>>16108700
Can't recall if there was a guide about ripping Kamihime asset, only one for FKG animated sprites >>16081005
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>>16108752
That anon went into more detail, it works for other fkg assets too.
http://pastebin.com/DcTSyuUr
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>>16108765
Is there one of these for ripping the music too?
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>>16106877
As far as I can remember, yes.

>>16106990
Just remember that "constant" involves running some revivals instead of new events. It's still kinda fucked either way. Old players are still on Phalanx 2 duty for those weeks.

>>16107996
3 stars? Haven't seen a thing. I doubt it's even possible without AW Prince or at least a completely fucking ridiculously stacked team. And even the latter might have some crowd control issues at the start.
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>>16107239
Already got a Calliope.
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>>16109082
> not farming silvers for AW and mincosting
What.
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>>16109096
>not having an excess of over 100 silvers

Oh, right, nutaku.
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>>16109096
Doesn't even matter unless it's the -right- silvers. Which on Nutaku means it's useless if it's not a rogue or a healer.
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>>16108836
No, but it's pretty simple.

1) Go to the garden, and place a jukebox.

2) Open your browser's console (F12 for firefox, Ctrl Shift J for Chrome/Opera), and go to the Network tab

3) Play a track (make sure the volume is on in the settings, or it won't work)

4) Download
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How long does Aigis maintenance usually last on DMM?
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>>16109508
There's always an announcement with the expected time. I think it's usually 6 hours.
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>>16109523
Yeah, sorry, I'm just trying to do some stamina planning around the revival and the boosted drop rates. Thanks.
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I have an 18 cost lolonee, worth spending SC for lyla?
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>>16109787
oh, and I have a dahlia at -1 which kind of serves the same purpose...ish
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>>16109787
If you want to, you can try, but I really wouldn't make it high priority. Lyla is a fair bit better, especially with SAW, but in the end, they both fill the niche well enough.

And getting specific units is a bit of a pain anyway.
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>>16109845
Ok, well I'll probably just stick with delihla then, she tanks casters like a boss
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Is anybody else getting crippling lag on KamiPro? I'm getting between 20-30 second loads on shit like 10 kb images displayed on the quest screen.
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>>16109916
Same, can't even do the dailies.
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Current state of my life.
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>do 3 runs of 55/7
>no Lucia
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>>16109096
You eventually reach a point where you can't awaken units fast enough and they are completely worthless as units.

and this is after burning through like 100 silvers with no fairies when they gave bonus exp. Which is about to happen again but this time it'll be more like 200.
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>>16110070
Are you quitting runs to get some stamina/charisma back if she doesn't drop?
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>>16109787
Hmmm Lyla can tank golems with some help, Rorone have the worst hp of the bandits but she can evade.
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>>16110095
Yeah
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>>16110110
That's good at least. But ouch, that's still 12 stamina down the drain. Sorry to hear that. Good luck/break a leg on the last day.
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>>16110095
You can get charisma and stamina back if you quit the mission?
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>>16110198
Recently implemented system, 50% refund on cha/sta if you quit/fail.
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>>16110209
I guess this kind of makes it better to farm 7 stamina maps from now on for these kind of events.
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>>16110225
Depends. At a 50/50 rate (I seem to recall drop rate actually being a smidge lower?) you're looking at average 11 stamina per unit. But you could also end up like the poor anon above that went three runs with no drop, which means losing 12 stamina with nothing to show for it.

It probably averages out to be slightly better than 12 stam, but I think the 12 stam map has the better side drops (plat armors/rubies).
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>>16110246
If it's 50/50, for everyone who goes 15 stam without one, someone will get 3 in 21 stam.
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Apparently they're going to make some changes to the gold daily's drop rate in Aigis on DMM or something.

Frankly, despite feeling like all of the dailies have had shit drop rates for the last couple of months, I think gold needs the least help of all of them. It'd be nice if they did something about the fairy daily, or maybe actually be generous with the affection daily since we only get it once per week.
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>>16110305
It's all the dailies.
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>>16110315
So it is.
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Is it me, or does Maribel look rather disappointed upon seeing my penis?
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I just bought Elva even though I have no idea what she even does.
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>>16110673
Fairly tanky 2-block with a attack/attackspeed steroid on both skill and SAW. She does pretty well paired with a dancer, but you won't get too much mileage out of her, especially thanks to that ridiculous cost.
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This is where the real struggle begins
Should I keep trying for skill-ups? Her SAW seems rather nice, as I never used a battlepriest to block anything anyway
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>pussy saga on nutaku
>fucking rectal prolapse on one of the preview cg
>still won't do TABA
I have no idea how these people decide what flies, and what does not
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>>16110861
Mine is still at only -3 cr. Though I do have 8/10 skill.
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>>16110870
Fucking candy crush gameplay is still addicting as fuck though. Game is impossible after a few successes though, when shit suddenly starts taking 4-500 points.
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>>16110931

It's a black history. To jump to conclusion, they want spoilers to be posted in #fkg_dmm_discussions, nowhere else.
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>Last six gacha characters are all more or less vanilla experience judging by their H-scene preview
>The art has also improved here and there
Kamihime devs may fuck up a lot but they're still pretty dedicated to their game and probably consider players' opinions.
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>>16111065
That Bastet is cute
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Only 1 R char after 20 rolls.
Not sure what I was expecting again.
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>>16111202
Same here. Been only getting SSR summons from gacha for the last few months.
Good thing some R characters are pretty useful and/or have good H-scenes.
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Mirabelis reminds me of a certain headpat slave.

She's popped up in quite a few of my helper teams or as secretaries too.
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Did anyone receive their tickets on FKG Nutaku for the IWZ crossover event?
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>>16111293
And here we have another anon who doesn't know how to read a banner...it said "November 18"
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>>16110861
Depends on if you're doing anything else with your stamina. I need to run the revival since I'd been putting it off for her, so I would have stopped at min cost either way.

If you don't need to, I'd spend the rest of the time you have saving yourself some rainbow fairies.
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Go with revival after mincost even if you don't need current revival unit, IMO.
Having enough revival crystals will be handy either way, there are better units coming in future and you would need shitton of RCs to mincost them.
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>>16111521
Yeah, that's good advice. I'm actually ignoring this warpriest altogether and going all in on revival crystals.

They're building up for something big for the anniversary and I have exactly 0 SCs, I hope it's a Karma revival or something so that these RCs are put to use.
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x-overd is up. at least if you fake yourself being from leaf country
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>>16111629
Time for another complete failure of a capacity test because they only run with Canadian users.
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>>16111558
>Karma revival
I want to believe. I'm content even if we get Eden.
Just give me my vampire waifu already devs.
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>>16111764
I'd be happier to have Eden, but I'll take either.
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Any of these worth it or better wait for christmas?
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>>16111764
You can always try to roll best Vampire Lord
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>>16111920
She's not Eden, Eden is way more special than her.
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>>16112028
That's true, Eden is waifu tier, while Racua, even being cute, is really plain.
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>>16112050
Being plain is part of Racua's charm point, though.

>>16111904
The first and third are "pick any gold/rainbow up to a certain date" campaigns; the first is limited-time and has a more up-to-date pool that the third (which is the first deal of that kind and was made permanently available to everyone). Pick-your-rainbow campaigns give the best value for your money, so you may as well do the first.

The second gives you 2 guaranteed golds for 490 DMM points, which is cheap and pretty useful if you're just starting out, and it is also permanently on until bought. Since two of them aren't going anywhere, and the first gets repeated every two months or so, you may also want to take your time and check out what the Christmas/New Year deals are like before deciding.

Last year we had a grab bag with bonus Kale and some rainbow/gold slot flowers, but they may do something different this time around.
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http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/16/nutaku-will-invest-10-million-in-game-devs-who-put-sex-scenes-in-nsfw-games/

>23 million monthly users
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>>16112538
There's no way in hell. What kind of weird metric are they using to get to that number? Bullshit all around.
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How do I search for a specific alliance in Kamihime Pro?

I finally got over my cooldown from leaving my last alliance and finished the paper I had due today in my Surface Water Hydrology class.
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So are any Maplelanders or fake ones playing X-Overd? Anything to report yet? It's been awfully quiet compared to previous closed periods.
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>>16112741
Anyone know if vpning to play is a bannable offense on nutaku?
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>>16112771
They claimed it was during FKG's beta I believe, although I don't recall anyone actually getting punished over it.
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>>16112771
They've threatened it before, but I don't think they've ever done it.
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>>16112741
Maplelander here, been playing it. Was excited for it, and didn't expect it to drop this early. Only played it a bit on DMM (my moon isn't the greatest), but so far it seems fine.

Anyone know if I should roll shards on the specific 200 shard male gacha, or the 10 shard weapon (and job?) one?
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>>16112741
I'm not sure what I'm doing but its going well so far, I'm raising the base jobs and going up from there while saving the crystals for a 11 pull.

The English isn't perfect but at least is miles better than other games that's for sure.

Not really sure if this is worth doing but I'll throw my ID, seems you get and give shards while using your friend units?

ID:1576389
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Just noticed this thing. Kinda cool.
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Any notes on the rogue AW yet?
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>>16113327
Yeah, it's pretty neat. 2ch also comments that there may be knights with support skills in the future, since the word "enemy" is specifically highlighted in the skill summary.

Something like "1.5x damage to 3 enemies, attack 5% to party" could be fairly good, and Gerbera and Fritillaria's nigh-useless abilities could be converted to something like that as well. It still seems to be a long shot, though.
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>>16113327
This made me realized that Red Ginger stat is fucking awful, even with 2nd evolve.
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>>16113487
Actually, Red Ginger has the second-highest stat total out of any girl now, mostly thanks to her incredible HP.
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>>16113515
>HP
Well, it's pretty pointless to have 2k more HP than the other girls.
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http://www.samurai-games.com/games/flowerknightgirl/
Didn't know there is a chinese FKG server, also one for Kanpani Girls.
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>>16113339
Seems they don't give details in advance. You'll have to wait for the maintenance.
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>>16113625
Speaking of which, whatever happened to that Chinese Aigis looking clone?
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>>16113625
I like how the screenshot blurs the username and level, but you can see that the account is called oleole and is at level 23 from the friendlist and required experience.

Still, this looks to be official rather than an obvious bootleg like the EN Kancolle thing that popped out a while ago, and more support for FKG devs is never a bad thing. It's on Calla event too, so if they're releasing events on schedule, it has been around for a good while.
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>>16112741
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>>16114076
Thanks for the laugh, anon. I'll be saving that.
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Free guaranteed black in DMM aigis next week.
https://twitter.com/Aigis1000/status/799095832205094912
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政務官アンナ / 千年戦争アイギス運営
‏@Aigis1000
ランク10達成ボーナスとして
「ブラック交換チケット」をプレゼント!
プレミアム召喚から出現する
最高レアリティ「ブラック」のユニット1体を
自分で選んで獲得することができます。

※2016年5月31日までに実装されたユニットが
選択対象となります。

#千年戦争アイギス
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>>16114626
>>16114627
Wow, that is really generous of them for once.
Who are you guys gonna pick? I hope the removed units are available too.
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>>16114626
>>16114627
I can't pick apart the details of this with my shitty moon. So rank 10 requirement, I guess, but can you select which unit you want, or does it even specify?

Because I want a god damn Dina already.
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>>16114648
All units up until 31st May 2016 are available. (Rinne and Frederica are the last two)
>>16114652
Should be able to choose.
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>>16114626
Holy shit. I'm guessing I can finally get Iris?
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https://twitter.com/Aigis1000/status/799096229837688832
Free rainbow crystals just for rolling?
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>>16114730
Rainbow crystal consolation prizes for rolling gold and silvers
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>>16114730
I can see it now. Rainbow crystals can be traded for black tickets soon as a last ditch effort to save their dying game.
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>>16114731
It says ゴールド以上 (Gold and above).
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>>16114776
That looks awful.
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>>16114757
>dying game.

Its in the top3 since forever.
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>>16114627
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>>16114804
Last I checked (around summer), it was around 7-8th place.
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>>16114815
Rankings are lower than the game's actual success because the playerbase is split between the 3 (not counting Nutaku) versions of the game.
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there are like 20 blacks i want how am i supposed to choose
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>>16114895
When in doubt go for Aisha.
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>>16114895
Pick your poison.
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I have to choose between Iris, lion or the dark knight. Which one is the strongest?
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>>16114903
I don't fully buy in to the Aisha meme, especially since I have Adele. Not saying she's weak, but most gacha blacks aren't. I'm considering her, but there's also Amanda, Alice, Kayou, Rakshasa, Arshela, Minerva, Towa, Makina, Mikoto, Moltena, Frederica... Glad I have a week to decide.
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If everyone picks Aisha, won't it break the game? We'll see her in every map.
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>>16114908
Have you considered Rinne?
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>>16114895
Follow the penis in your heart.
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>>16114932
Who? No I have not considered her. Is she good?
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>>16114935
The penis in my heart gets boner with everyone ;_;
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>>16114942
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Rinne
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>>16114949
She's cute I'll give you that but is she better than Iris at healing and protection?
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>>16114907
I think Iris is the best for everyone lack of hard tank
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>>16114965
Iris gives up to 907 base healing with her skill awakening (a bit more if you go heirophant like a pleb) while making everyone in range incredibly tanky versus physical damage for 80 seconds and gives another defense boost from her ability. Rinne has FAR, FAR more range, and while worse at healing a single target, can put out 1206 base healing and provides 30% physical dodge chance and an autorevive token, and also costs less than a healer while providing feng shui's benefits of weather/map condition reduction vs. a healer's more niche status effect reduction. Iris does have the temporary advantage over Rinne of having a 2nd awakening to give her one of those passives, but it really depends. If you already have someone like Deine, Iris's defense might be overkill, for example.
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>>16112674
how do you leave a union? mine is dead
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wtf where's my black ticket
>>
Wow the rogue's 2nd AW is literally nothing.
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>>16115004
God damn why do they make this decision so difficult. I guess I'll see which unit is used the most in those majin videos and hope it helps me decide
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>>16115027
It could actually be on the 24th, it's a bit ambiguous.
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>>16115044
「ブラック交換チケット」につきまして、 既にランク10を突破しているユーザーさまは 11月24日(木)のメンテナンス後の 初回ログイン時にプレゼントボックスにお贈りいたします。

Not ambiguous, you're just bad at comprehension.
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>>16106370
Close enough, Enforcers got attack speed as their special something.
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>>16114926
The thing about Aisha is she has just about everything going for her. She's a cheap unit with strong dps, a great skill, a great ability and on top of that her class has a really good passive.

It's hard to pass on her, but my dick is kind of telling me to pick Kayou or Estelle.
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>>16115068
She's not very impressive while her skill isn't up, the main reason I might choose her is to have the class passive on a unit worth using.
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Will this black ticket have a time limit? I'm planning on doing 150 rolls soon and would hate if I happen to roll a dupe after I get a black from the ticket.
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Should we make a poll of everyone's choice of that black ticket?
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>>16114907
man, this is difficult.

I have a good amount of blacks already, most of them being good classes that cover a lot of ground, so it makes my decision a little bit easier, but not that much easier.

I could either go for broken and choose Aisha, Nanaly, or Rion. Of these three I most like Nanaly the most, she's cute and I'm still only using Claire so I wouldn't mind choosing her.

or I could go with the girls I most like, Cornelia, Altair, and Olivier. Olivier is a unit I've been consistently rolling for when she appears on rate up, don't remember exactly why I wanted her but I remember I really wanted her so I still do, Cornelia who I find very cute, and Altair I like the look of, less so than Cornelia but she is however something I really need, a solid low cost unit, and she's cuter than Jake.

Difficult choices.

>>16114652
You will not regret it if you choose Dina. She was my first black and honestly the one I value highest above all my others.
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>>16115184
If you're picking a revival unit, you could just put all your rolls into non-revival gacha.
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Here's an album I made with the English cutscene for map1 of the monotropastrum event on fkg:

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>>16115252
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which loli black should i get?
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>>16115190
Nah.
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>>16115271
There aren't enough loli blacks.
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>>16115366
There aren't enough lolis in general.
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>>16115373
There are some pretty loli plats.
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If anyone else is playing X-overd on Nutaku, the 1st limited mission is pretty good for farming shards. 3 stam for 7-11 shards a run.

Not sure if there's anywhere else I should be farming in the earlygame.
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>>16114627
Holy fuck.
How do I even choose now? There are so many blacks I want.
I'm full freemium with only one irrelevant gacha black and bunch of irrelevant gacha plats, looking for something that will help me clear majin maps.
Candidates: Black Iris, Reon, Aisha, Estelle, Ingrid, Matsuri, Olivie

...also want Sophia, Rakshasa and Doroti for thematic reasons, but majin clearing comes at higher priority.
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>>16094903
Is there a better way to farm plat fairys than phalanx 2? I'm always out of those little shits.

I just do phalanx 2 on tuesdays because the dailys never drop shit for me.
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>>16114907
Is the black magic fencer any good? I rarely use the class, but really like her design and tiddies
Also holy shit, rogues got the short end of the stick again. Completely unredeemable class now
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>>16115558
Ingrid is good, she has awesome skill which reduces enemy MR by 70%.
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>>16115558
Enforcer stat boost is nice.
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>>16115558
I dunno, it sounds like Night Asssassins have the same assassination rate with normal attacks as lesser rogues would with an assassination skill. Add that to their actual skill and it should assassinate really reliably. Meanwhile Enforcers have pretty amazing stats for their cost, like a bandit with added evade. I'd see how they play out.
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Are Cypria and Cuterie enforcers? Also I have Junon who needs raising, but she got no 2AW art and my dick is telling me to raise Cypria, who has no useful abilities. Hard times
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>>16115669
Yes, Cuterie and Cypria are enforcers, Junon, Betty, and the furry are night assassins.
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>>16115035
Keep in mind that Rinne is newer so not as many older players will have her, especially in older majin clears.
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Looking at old Aigis videos really feels like looking at a different game.
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>>16115811
speaking of different aigis games, did chinks ever finish that aigis clone they were making? It actually looked better
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>>16111465
I like this meme. It's pretty funny. And hey, maybe if people repeat it enough, everyone will forget that it didn't actually say on the banner that the rewards would be sent out the 18th.
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Now that Aigis and Kanpani had done it, will FKG devs step up their game and give everyone a free rainbow during their 2nd anniversary next year?
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>>16115493
How did you even get to dungeon 7? I'm struggling beating the last map on dungeon 4.
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>>16115493
>>16116334
How are you guys even playing it? Did they do an early access for Canada again?
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>>16116334
Not that anon but I struggled there as well, get some powerful friends and if you are lazy and use auto make sure to set some atk skills like light edge or better if you have them as the default attack.

Also, you should spin the shard gacha for UC and some basic job evos for som very much needed stats. They helped me a lot. Now I'm slowly making my way on the limited dungeons and second map golden crowning everything (being carried by monster allies most of the time though).

Although I'm still setting a good helper, feel free to add me, I posted the ID here>>16113308
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>>16116365
Yep. Use the hola plugin and listo.

>>16116371
Also, switch your C equipment with UC from the fodder gacha for a quick boost.
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>>16116365
You can also use the dotvpn chrome extension. It's pretty simple to use.
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So night or enforcer?
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>>16116880
Enforcer sounds better. Assassination sucks.
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Are there any R+ jobs you can actually max out in X-Overd for free? It seems like it's UCs only at first glance.
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Damn, I thought that the enforcer buff was good...it is completly crap. Assassins needed a good bost for their 3rd AW and it turned to be a total let down.
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Who are you getting /jp/?
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Nutaku FKG finally up.

Seems the new machine is "spend 3000 Nutaku gold for a single pull + a gold of your choosing, up to three times."

That's actually fairly reasonable. Better than the $66 step-up before.
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>>16116919
Yeah, from what I saw with Cuterie, it was just 500 more hp and around 50 more att, which is fucking nothing.I'm waiting to see a maxed Cypria to see if it's worth it, but for now it is just a waste of resources.
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>>16116930
Also, Idol Wars crossover rewards should be out tomorrow. So don't spend just yet.
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>>16116921
Split between Black Iris, Rion, Estelle and Aisha.
This is cruel to force us to choose only one.
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>>16116960
I'm sure they'll have it in the shop to buy eventually. As some special deal.
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>>16116980
1000 SC Stamp Card incoming?
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>>16116960
I almost wish it was random instead. At least then I could adapt.

I think I'll get B. Iris, since she's by far the most vital black for my team, but I actually want to get Grace for 50 MR Palfy instead. Or Farne because she's the cutest black bar Makina, who is unavailable.
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>>16116921
>>16116960
>>16117034

One of my first pulls on nutaku aigis was Sybilla, she almost soloed every mission and became an unstoppable paintrain after awakening her. Im wondering why she isnt mentioned more in ddm version. Did she get nerfed? Are there 100 mr enemies with instakill immunity parading around past the desert missions?

I dont intend to pick her as my first dmm black, but im wondering.
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>>16117050
Late-game stuff is majin maps, and for example majin Bifrons level 15 is 140000 hp, 600 def, 70 MR, 7000 attack, assassination immune.
So either you want something that could turn your tanks into insanely-tough tanks (Black Iris) or something with insane DPS (Rion), or something that could strip MR (Estelle, Ingrid). And Aisha is just generic cheat unit helping with everything.
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>>16117050
Sybilla is good for what she does, but other than her ranged assassination she's fairly generic, she doesn't do much that other units don't.

Iris, in contrast, combines a strong heal with the ability to make you near-unkillable against physical damage, Rinne provides a flat dodge chance and death insurance to your tanks in addition to area heals, and Aisha brings 14% HP and -30% cooldown to your entire team right off the bat, hits like a truck even out of skill, and has a "kill everything on screen" button for emergencies (but needs a ton of investment before she gets to that point). No other character in the game is going to give you these perks at once.

Multi-hit characters like Rion and Nanaly also get mentioned a lot despite not being too amazing by themselves, this is because dancers are very good for high-tier maps and they in turn are amazing with a dancer around.
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>>16117083
Aisha gives everyone hp just from being in the party. That's more than enough reason to bring her everywhere.
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>>16117084
What if I don't have a dancer?
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>>16117108
You get one from daily revival.
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>>16117050
Sybilla falls under the
>good during skill use but not great
category a lot of units are in. They don't have that extra oomph needed for the very hard maps because they try to be too many things at once.

Simple but effective stuff like increasing stats, decreasing enemy stats, or increasing attack speed are the skills that really shine. This is why dancers go from being why did you even bring this to you have to have this in very hard maps.
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How does Rinne work? Apparently she's almost broken tier but has like half the attack B Iris does and no stupidly high def boost. Google translate isn't giving me much on the jp wiki
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>>16117341
High range heals multiple targets at once and produces a token that saves one unit from dying once.
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Which AW is better for berna and Iris? I'm leaning towards night assassin and hierophant.
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>>16117341
She gets permanent 396 range with skill awakening, so she'll be healing 3 units at once across the whole map, and giving allies dodge chance will take away a lot of the healing burden so her seemingly low attack won't hurt too much. Less pure strength than Iris maybe, but fewer weaknesses too.
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>>16117383
Iris's famous skill is that much stronger with the extra 10 range from Oracle. Also Oracle is way cuter.
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>>16117341
She will be fucked by hard hitter while Iris be fucked by AOE magic.
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>>16116983
SLegend is not really worth it imo, 100sc for what, a black armor and some cost fairies that might not even work. For 50 more you get another legend card with way more stuff in total. I allways thought having a black ticket in there would make it more interesting.
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>>16117448
But you can compensate for Rinne's weakness against hard hitters by using any healer.
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>>16117530
No their defense wouldn't be high enough to take a hit
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>>16117558
If I have Gelius would he be enough to take those hard hitters?
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It appears I need Iris, Rinne, Cornelia and Rion to complete my army.
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>>16117558
As someone with a level 99 Iris, she's more useful against powerful rushes with lots of physical damage than against bosses like golems that could one-shot your subpar tanks.
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>>16117341
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Rinne
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>>16115527
>plat
I'd like to know too. Bitches be vague as fuck
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Someone actually did beat Furfur 15 without goddess buffs this time.

https://youtu.be/I6lOKE_eonc
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>>16117665
How do I get that dancer?
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>>16117683
Ask the goddess nicely.
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>>16117683
Revival gacha.
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>>16117683
roll gacha
then roll more
and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more
roll until you can't roll anymore.

the goddess will be pleased and will reward your devotion eventually. and then you will be less dead.
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Does Rinne's mirror work with Racua's temporary death? What about Rakshasa/Lulu's redeploy and Melvina's revenge stun abilities?

Rinne, skeletons and Eden/Racua/Melvina could be a fun way of tackling lower-level majin maps, though Agares at least seems to be immune to paralysis.
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>>16117793
Both the English and JP wikis only mention redeployable units being excluded. Racua doesn't technically "die", so I think she's out too. Melvina should be fine though.

Someone that has her will have to confirm.
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>>16117665
Plenty of whales are beating it without buffs. Some are trying to see how few units it can be cleared with now: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29990474
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>>16114626
Meanwhile Nutacucks are rejoicing and throwing their whale bucks out for FINALLY having Misha in gacha and a shitty revival directly after an event instead of a break in between
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>>16117853
Well, the revival event is so easy, it might as well be a break inbetween.
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>>16114926
Aisha's meteors are good, but grossly overvalued. High defense enemies, of which there are many these days, will just shrug them off. They're good for clearing large swarms of fodder, I guess.

Everything else about her is solid, though. The universal HP boost is big and she does really good damage with her normal attacks. She can replace a vampire hunter in most situations, even an archer in some situations, to great effect.
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>>16117665
Now let's see ig they reach the guy with 3 Julius who reached lvl 17 without buff the first time, (18 with buff)
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>>16118038
18? Are there not only 15 levels?
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>>16118038
There's no such thing as level 17.
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I don't understand the reasoning behind making Cypria, who has assassination, an enforcer and making Ada, who doesn't, a night assassin. What the fuck is the dev team thinking?

And God dammit, they ruined Cypria for this.
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>>16118061
Ada has assassination with skill awakening.
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>>16117959
Yeah 2300 attack with just the Prince buff, but it's only useful versus fodder.
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>>16118086
True. I always forget to take SAW into account because I don't know what most of them are. Didn't even bother to look.

Either way, both her normal and SAW skills are way more suited to Enforcer's increased stats.

>>16118127
...No? She has 475 attack at AW99. Great Hero title and her skill's 3x boost fall well short of 2300. Try more like 1700.
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>>16118058
There are 25 lvls.
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>>16118149
Yeah my bad I was using Marnie in the screenshot I have, but if 1700ish is only good enough for fodder I feel bad for Nanaly and other pure DPS units.
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>>16118170
It's not that it's "only" good enough for fodder. It's just that 1700 really isn't shit against any half-difficult enemy. If it was, you wouldn't need Aisha to cheat, because most high-offense units can pull way more than that out of their ass.
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>>16118163
Please kindly fuck off with your retarded bullshit.
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So for someone with Dine and Ashera as gacha blacks, I'm thinking either B.Iris or Rinne. I'm not too focused on Maijin maps yet, so outside of that which would provide more general use?
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>>16118237
What healers do you have already?
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Who's cuter, Rinne or Iris?
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>>16118310
Iris is cuter currently, but only because of 2nd awakening. We'll have to see what Rinne gets.
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>>16118178
I have no idea what you mean by wouldn't need her to cheat. But Leone and Nanally only come in at around 1000 damage and they are fine on the highest difficulty maps.
Obviously you're going to use them differently, but Aisha's attack with her skill up isn't an issue of hers at all.
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Is this black ticket thing going to be a recurring thing or is it just for the anniversary?
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>>16118332
I mean Aisha isn't a cheat unit because of her meteors. She a cheat unit because of the whole package she provides. And the meteors aren't as big of a part of that as a lot of people think.

But yeah, the difference in Aisha and Nanaly/Leone is that the latter two spam the hell out of projectiles and Aisha's only going to hit a single enemy no more than 8 times with hers. Nanaly and Leone will almost hit that projectile count with a single volley. Aisha's is good because it hits multiple enemies, but that makes it best suited for fodder and not so much for any non-trash enemy, where the other two are much better for dealing with tough enemies by melting anything that doesn't deflect projectiles.
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>>16118257
Currently use Awakened Gold Iris, and non awakened Elias and Chydis. I also have the gold feng shui user and recently rolled Camilla but haven't messed with either.

For priest warriors I've got Flamel and Lucia.
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Should I really pick Black Iris if I already have every single healer except her? I don't know what to do with so many healers, but I'm severely lacking in tanking department, so her ability and skill would be biggest buff of my team.
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I figure it's best for me to go for ranged black units from revival gacha that I'm missing, since most of my blacks are revival gacha so I don't want to roll it any more, and ranged units feel generally more crucial, and with the new gacha system I'll get the dark knight before long anyway. That leaves me choosing between Aisha, Minerva, Nanaly, or Mikoto. I might get Ahshela next time I go for 150 so I'll leave out Nanaly, and I already have Dyspia so I sort of feel like I don't need Makoto. Though she's no match for Minerva, I have Rachel maxed out so I guess I'll go with Aisha just because of her class ability.
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>>16118389
If you need a tank get a tank. Iris would just be overkill on Deine.
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This doesn't make sense.
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>>16118464
AW Prince with Black Iris would be better than Deine.
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>>16118610
If you're tanking something that'll you can kill quickly enough, sure. I don't know exactly what units they have and what they're up against.
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>>16118602
I've seen an account that was last online 90 days ago. Might be a dev account from when they were closed-testing it.
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>>16118602
There are a number of accounts that have 30+ days ago. I assume as >>16118628 pointed out, testing accounts.
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Can Kamira and Iris (gold) replace Iris (black)?
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So what's better to pull in X-Overd, the 200 shard gacha for males or the 10 shard for weapons and what seems to be UC job dupes?

Also, re-asking this >>16116915
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>>16116932
>500 more hp
>on a rogue.
Isn't that quite a lot?
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Damn, that 500 kill count plat exp fairy is too hard.
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>>16118944
As subjugations go, this one is really damn easy, though.
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>>16118944
This is a pretty easy Subjugation though. The only hard part is the rush on the last hundred. And so long as you have 1 mage/bishop and and 1 artillery, you're good.
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>>16118992
>>16118961
Oh really? I was getting smashed in the last one so I was giving up hope already. I'll try it out once the daily/story bonuses end.
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Apparently Cornelia is the best tank in the game. Is it just because of her skill? Her stats don't seem to be that amazing.
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>>16119037
Her numbers do get pretty high, though I'm not sure about 'best'.
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The current gachas on DMM FKG don't look as the usual ones.
Is there something special for the freemium that only use flower stones?
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Here are all the blacks I currently have. Any recommendations for who to get with the free black for someone who prefers curvy ladies over lolis?
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>>16119191
B. Iris
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Should I focus on getting orbs now or do the subjugation? I'm also doing the 12 stamina map for the yellow crystals.
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>>16119194
And if we were to exclude lolis? I know B. Iris and Aisha are the top contenders but I'm trying to compromise between both my heads here.
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>>16119191
Iunno. Deine?
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>>16119191
Rion, Nanaly, Kayou, Towa
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>>16119222
Corneria
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>haven't even looked at blacks
>look up all of them since we're getting one
>suddenly I want them all
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Is Deine tanky enough to not have to prioritize B.Iris over someone else?
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>>16119293
AW99 + SAW is >2000 defense without anyone or anything else. She's pretty goddamn tanky.
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>>16119223
>>16119242
>>16119257

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out. This is going to be one of the toughest decisions of my life. XD
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>have to buy some book for her
God damn
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>>16119293
This. I also have a hard choice there. She's great phys tanker but i'm lack of dps unit
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>>16119347
It's a light novel. It costs like $7, but the shipping is another matter. Could throw it in with something else you want if you really wanted her.
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What does this error say? Got it when I tried to play a story map and the game kicked me back to the menu after seemingly failing to load a map. Now it shows it every time I try to play the map.
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>>16119402
"Loading Failed"
Not sure how to fix it, maybe reload the game/restart browser?
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>>16119414
Refreshing wasn't working, but restarting the browser did. Guess I just needed to reset the browser's memory allocation or something. Iunno. Thanks!
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>>16118944
This subjugation is so easy the hardest part for me is making sure my phone doesn't fall asleep. It's easily clearable with only silvers.
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Do Rinne's tokens refresh the skill cd? Like can I put Karma down, use her skill, have her die, then revive her with the token and use her skill right after?
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Wow, they're adding to the shop a fairy purchasable for 10000 DMM points that increases all experience your units gain by 10% just by having it.
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>>16119553
https://twitter.com/Aigis1000/status/799465607875809280
I didn't think it was true, but it is.
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>>16119553
Where is 10000 DMM point come from?
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>>16119553
>>16119577
Last minute cash grab before the game closes?
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>>16119678
It's one of the most popular games on R18 DMM, why would it close?
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>>16119678
Why would they close the game if it's suddenly making thousands and thousands of dollars from this? They just wanted money because everyone does so they announced the black ticket before this so they could make an extra $100 from every whale without ruining their reputation with the f2p side.
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>>16119347
Is she any good? Can you fuck it?
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>>16119686
This. Also keep in mind that experience is plentiful as it is and these 10000 DMM points are already enough to buy you 1.2x experience for 3 whole years. This fairy isn't anything to write home about.

Unless she's cute. This is the dealbreaker here. If she ends up being as cute as Fes, now that would be terrible.
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>>16119655
https://twitter.com/Aigis1000/status/799465703174606848
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>>16119712
Pretty sure that's just player rank experience, not really comparable.
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>>16119731
My bad, that's true.

Still, "1 bonus plat armor for every 10 you use" isn't really a game-breaking buff.
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Is 10% that big of a deal? From my experience, I'm always running out of fairies and gold before running out of fodder.
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>>16119743
Nope, this is offline game anyway. Just some jelly faggots
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>>16119743
It doesn't matter which you run out of, it's 10% exp extra on every time you give any unit any exp forever.
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Any Supreme Angel players messed with this Battle Mode event thing? I can't figure out where the battle lotto is, but I keep getting tickets for it...
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Are there any beginner guides in english for X-overd?
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>>16119768
Nevermind. It literally just gives you whatever you draw as soon as you end the map. I couldn't figure out what one of the items I was getting every time was, but I just got some equipment instead.
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Is Mikoto any good?
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>>16119837
Some people swear by her.
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Should I bother maxing out UC or R weapons?
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>>16119837
She's better than most units but compared to other blacks, she's below average.
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Add me on Nutaku X-Overd: 950521
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>>16119844
Her fans are some of the most annoying people I've argued with online.
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I thought the 10k bag would also give some SC too like the royal guard girl but it doesn't. What a joke.
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>>16119885
It gives 1 SC for every 10 you spend farming XP.
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How do I complete this task? It points me to the first tab but that one is already emptied
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>>16120151
clear 30 dailies
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>>16120153
wait, so the first tab is daily tasks? Then this one I presume weekly?
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>>16120161
correct
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They also buffed that Alishia dmm pack, after maintenance it will give Alishia, 14 SC, 200 DC and 30 diamonds.
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>>16118602

Isn't "nutakubixi" a dev's name on some Discord server somewhere?
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Was there a christmas event on Shiropro last year? What was it about?
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>>16120414
It shut down in November so probably not.
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Should I? I like her design, but the entire class fucking sucks. I can hope they have amazing 2AW, but I honestly doubt it
I already have Anya so I doubt I'll need revival crystals for anything, unless they revive that black ninja
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>>16118944
Its certainly easiest subjugation in this year.
499 on first try blind (missed one red wolf), 500 on second.
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>>16118877
>>16116915

I've been pulling the 10 shard gacha and I would recommend you to do the same for now to evolve those UC jobs to the max for some needed hp and mp. Also, I've had R jobs drop very rarely.
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>>16119848
You can safely get a boost and clean some storage by giving your R weapons or better that low ranked materia you surely have in spades by now.
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>>16120370
And if you allready bought it? I could really use the diamonds as a new player, phalanx 2 hates me.
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>>16121163
It will be gifted to players who bought it already sometime after maintenance.
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I was looking through the list of black rarity units. I came.
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>>16119837
She's really good. Replace a mage with her.

>>16120370
Is that permanent or just during the anniversary period? Getting harder and harder to ignore it.
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>>16121327
Permanent.
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Is DMM fucking up for anyone? I can't access Aigis
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>>16121906
Kancolle event maintenance ended a few minutes ago, so expect DMM to be dead for the next hour or two.
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10 FGs for Nutaku's four-hour maintenance yesterday.

Idol Wars rewards are postponed until Monday though.
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>>16120531
She's more focussed in ATT, with her SA being one with the most DPS in the game.
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>>16118905
They rarelly need that extra hp, what they need was more att or some really important, if you are using them to tank things, better use a silver bandit or valk.
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>>16119848
R weapons if you do not get any better
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>>16122140
I'm not saying silver bandits aren't more efficient exp wise, but its 2150 health with dodge and roughly 70-250 extra defence vs 2450-2550 health on a silver bandit. Unless Cuterie is getting oneshot and a silver bandit won't she's gonna do the job far better with faster attack speed and cheaper cost. Silver valks can't touch her in terms of tankiness.

You're far more likely to bring Cuterie than a silver bandit too later on where AW2 is a consideration just for her drop rate increase, may as well have her able to kill things if needed.
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Here goes my premium gacha ticket from daily quests campaign.
FKG devs really dropped the ball with this shit, what was even the point of it.
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>>16123122
Probably making sure that no one would complain if they didn't manage to finish this campaign, so the reward is completely worthless.
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>>16120929
Just got my first R job from the shard gacha, so it seems like you're right.

Now it's just a matter of figuring out if there's any SRs or SSRs you can actually max out by playing. I'd kill for a maxable Sefira/Sephira SR or SSR.
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>>16123122
>>16123255
For people who don't spend much time in the game it's an incentive to do so. For you it's a little extra reward for dailies you would have done anyhow. You got these things in addition to current login campaign that gives you 2 stones every day as a bonus to the regular login bonus.

What were you expecting? A free rainbow ticket?
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>>16123265
You get some premium crystals over time from various sources, and they do pickup gachas with jobs of only 4 heroines, so I'm maxing out SSRs this way on DMM:
1. Stockpile crystals
2. Wait for pickup gacha with girl I want
3. Blow all crystals on it
After almost year of semi-playing, I maxed out Sefira SSR this way.
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>>16123289
Gold ticket or premium 11 roll ticket would be nice and not hurting them much.
I can roll premium gacha for 100 yen, this is not funny.
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>>16123291
That definitely seems like the smart thing to do. Now I feel dumb for burning 100 crystals on 10+1s already.

Since you've played on DMM, are there any farmable SRs or SSRs to max? I mean, most of these games have a few. I imagine events must have some. I was on DMM for a short time, but since my JP is weak, I ended up dropping it.
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>>16123300
How long did it take you to cultivate such a humongous entitlement?
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>>16123310
Yes, some event SSR and most SRs are farmable to max. Non-event? Nope.
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>>16123289
Honestly, even a bunch of danchou medals as reward would be better than this.
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>>16123122
It isn't really a new feature, though. These bronze tickets could be bought for 200 life stones each, if memory serves (but these old tickets had slightly better chances, like how beginner's bonus gold ticket comes with a 7.5% rainbow chance).

They're probably testing the waters for campaigns of that kind in the future.

>>16123315
A year and a half of constant gifts does that to you, I guess.

Still, it's not like FKG has no dud campaigns, it had these in the past. What makes the game great is that they don't repeat their mistakes.
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>>16123323
Yeah, this prize looks like a big "Fuck you" from the devs, at least it wasn't a 2* girl, but maybe it will be soon that way if they keep getting downhill with this.
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>>16123322
Damn. I was wondering, because of the shit like the Gold Resume trade.

Well, and what seem to be ancient gold coin gacha, and ruby gacha. I saw them on the JP wiki, but couldn't make much out of them.
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>>16123356
Ah, yes, gold coins. Yes you theoretically you can farm good jobs from them for free, but its too much hassle for me, playing too many games at once and busy at work.
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What's the SSR rate in X-overd? Rolled two 50 pulls and only got the guaranteed ones...who were the same. I love my luck.
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>>16123711
You are not alone, my friend. At least there was a guaranteed SSR.
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>>16123711
I got the two guaranteeds and one more with two 10+1s. Definitely doesn't seem like an amazing rate.

I'll pray that the game is half as generous as it seems to be on DMM.

Have you been doing the "Noel's Gift" dungeons at all? That banner is such a ridiculous lie - I haven't seen any crystals, rubies, despite them being the focus of the banner.

>>16123361
I have no clue how the gold coins work, so that's going to be interesting. Thanks for confirming, though, anon.
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>>16123737
At least the SSR evolution gave her a ton of HP and MP.

I'm slightly annoyed by the fact that i have to dismantle all my reserve teams to make my bench units available to trade. Guess it will be a non-issue when we get more units than slots.
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>>16123809
I got shit after completing levels 8, 16 and 24...

...and 15 crystals for completing the 25. The other dungeon gives 1 crystal per stage and a bonus 5 after clearing the dungeon ( 10 stages).
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Can anyone recommend decent AW/SAW events-only video for god-tier fairy daily?
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>>16123122
Here's mine. Time well spent, clearly.
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>>16123850
Don't even need SAW

3* but needs Anya and Karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UXywMEj6a4

2* but doesn't need Anya or Karma, full drops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d17piTz7J54
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>>16123847
You get an R weapon at 8, yeah. I hit stage 15 and just gave up on the dungeon, it seemed like an absolute waste of time.
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>>16123889
Well, I don't have Karma.
Found this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poC_fsTFL2M
Still need to AW/SAW Metus and AW Napoleon-chan, but shouldn't be too hard, will do it till next fairy daily.
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> oni keeps attacking everyone around it regardless of blocking
Each new class they make more and more ridiculous.
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Complaining does a little good. There might be hope for me yet.
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Just got a huge success out of the crappiest trade possible and got a lvl 40 and lvl 20 R sword. Why did I even spend so much gold upgrading...
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>>16124005
There have already been tons of units who do that with their skill.
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>>16123711
SSR at the begin could be an handicap more than an actual help.
Rarity are basically jobs with different skills and SSR rarity, even if the skill power is surely the top, costs a fuckton making you cast at max 3 skills.
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>>16123943
try this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otZwzZEe-70
You do need Anna though. Since she can change Prince's attack to ignore defense.
Otherwise, I've found the other units in the video to be replaceable with others of their class(Or similar, Eliza for example, can be replaced with Kokoro or Belinda)
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>>16124390
Good to know me sticking to the base jobs at first wasn't foolish then. I'm aiming for 5 casts since that's what earns you a golden crown.

Does anyone if it's worth farming those crystal dailies? I'm sure those weapons are powerful but it seems quite the hassle.
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So god tier armor daily now can drop 3 plats and they added queen fairies to the fairy daily.
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>>16124374
No other unit keep attacking like an autist, hitting the floor without event having an enemy in the map.
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I bet the 2nd male black will be 酒呑童子.
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Anyone know what the purpose of getting gold trophies on xoverd does? Game guide doesn't seem to specify. Is it worth going back and clearing them for gold or no point?
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>>16124873
You'll need them for the second panel challenge at the very least.
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is there something like a discord for kamihime. Everything about it seems dead. Wiki dead, reddit dead, even the in-game pub raid list is empty.
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>>16125130
I imagine people just play Granblue instead.
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>>16125130
In-game pub raid list is always dead unless there is a raid event going on.
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The hell do I do with all these?
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>>16125398
Make them fight one another, the surviving one will be the strongest and the one you will use.
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>>16125398
Feed the median level ones off for exp whenever silver exp rates are boosted.
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>>16125398
Min cost one? Then 30CC them for use with AW?
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I want to fuck Anna
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>>16125477
I got that feeling everytime I open wikiwiki homepage.
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>>16124374
She does that w/out skill, big difference.
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>>16125771
Remember she has 42 cost. Lyla can do the same thing as her half the time (rarely is it useful more than half the time) for less than half the cost. We'll see how good she is after awakening.
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>>16125873
She's basically Nadia, except she has less defense and more HP. This is without AW/SAW, and Nadia is one of the best plats in the game to begin with.

Nah, oni looks to be an inherently broken class. They wouldn't be the first, since rear tacticians are probably worse, but then these two are so different that it isn't a good idea to compare them anyway.

It's also silly that they made Shino and now have to make a bunch of "it's like this other class, but it's a youkai" classes. Couldn't they just add the youkai tag to certain units and maybe modify their stats a little, like how the elf bonuses work?
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