what did ZUN mean by this?

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>>15981481
but what did he REALLY mean by that? like damn...is this a step forward?

That the dream is dead

>>15981425
>>15981551
Nintendo/XBox/PC exclusive versions?

>>15981425
Can't wait till they start adding in DLC.

Is this the weekly doomsayer shitposting thread? About time.

>>15983589
"It's not paranoia if ZUN is really out to get DOUJIN SPIRIT"

>>15981481
>>15983589
Is that your only argument?

The fact still remains.
They did announce that Reisen is going to be exclusive to the PS4 version.
How is that not a dick move?
It's like ZUN and Tasofro are giving the PC players, which have been supporting them all these years, a giant middle finger.

Serisously, fuck Tasofro.
I'm not saying Touhou is over because of this, but it's definitely on the wrong path.

Nearly everyone who's not a huge casual owns a PS4 in japan, including those who play Touhou games on PC.

What is this thread. Deja Vu?

>>15983691
I'm sure nearly everyone who's not a huge casual and owns a PS4 in Japan, also has no problem paying for the same game twice because they added one extra character.

>>15981425
he meant: "give me your money, stupid fuckers kekeke"

>>15983669
>>15983685
Right on cue. Having fun? Can't you have it on /v/ instead, please?

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>>15983769
They don't. Because they are Touhou fans, not PC fans. They are happy to have new content, so they go where the games go. Meanwhile, people like you are not so much touhou fans, as they are fans of getting shit for free on the internet, so you feel inconvenienced and fly into an impotent rage about things you will never be of any consequence too because you aren't actually a part of said community, you are just a shitposter on the 4chins.

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Reminder that Tasofro sexualized Byakuren and should be gassed.

Great, another /v/ thread. Can't get enough of them.

>>15989684
The internet sexualized Byakuren looooong before that though.

>>15983769
>has no problem paying for the same game twice because they added one extra character.
Hasn't stopped fighting game fans for over 20 years now!

>>15989383
You're retarded. If someone really wanted you to play a game, they'd release it for free. Only people who don't care if you play make a game cost money.

>>15990274
i can't actually believe a real person would unabashedly say something so horribly stupid as this

>>15989383
>They are happy to have new content

What new content? It's the same fucking game from two years ago with one more character.
Why would the people who have been playing the game all this time on PC suddenly switch to consoles?
It's obviously targeted at the players who only play games on consoles and not PC.

>you feel inconvenienced and fly into an impotent rage

The game itself isn't very good. Even if it was, the netplay doesn't work properly outside of Japan, so there's no real way for people around the world to play each other.
And even if the game was good and the netplay worked, what exactly would I feel inconvenienced by, or rage at?
The fact that the console version gets one extra character 2 years after the PC version release?
Like, who gives a shit.

This is nothing more than a pathetic cash grab.

>you aren't actually a part of said community

Neither are you.
If you don't live in Japland it's impossible to be a part of that community.

>>15990274
I want you to try making games with this philosophy and see how far it gets you.

>>15990435
i can't actually believe a real person would be capitalist

>>15990647
It worked for Cave Story.

>>15990649
You mean the game that's now available for $14.99 on Steam? Don't really think that's embodying the same spirit.

>>15990654
It's available for free on its official website. Since I don't have Steam installed, it seems I'll never have to deal with that fact you just stated.

>>15990649
It turns out that even though there are some saints out there, not everyone is.

>>15991113
Okay? That's not what was originally stated though. The original statement was that anyone who makes a game cost money doesn't care if people play it. Cave Story+ costs $14.99 on Steam. Therefore, the developer doesn't care if people play their games or not and has sold out going by that logic. Which means that no, Cave Story did not maintain its success by being free. Somebody saw the opportunity to profit on it and did so.

>>15991150
Oh and check out all these hot exclusive features available in the different versions of Cave Story that aren't accessible in the freeware version. What sellouts!

http://cavestory.wikia.com/wiki/Version_differences

I'm surprisingly not upset.

The only thing that bugs me is that I doubt we'll see a script for the game any time soon, let along a translated one, and the story is the only part of PS4 ULiL I care about.

>>15990649
It took Pixel a long time to make Cave Story and he also happened to make a superb game. He's more exception than rule.

>>15991191
But only Pixel will know the glory of the beta version!

>>15989785
but that's irrelevant, Tasofro doing it as part of an official game makes it canon, even though Touhou was probably the prudest out of all the popular series in Japan.

>>15989684
>>16006420
Byakuren is not a good person and not only welcomes her sexualization (do you think she does not know how lewd she looks in her biker outfit?) but also deserves it.

Touhou 16 being PS4 exclusive will be a good thing. Think about it. Only people who have a PS4 and go through the process of importing a quality will be able to discuss the series, increasing the quality of discussion.

>>16006420
Adding incredibly minor fanservice when Touhou is already a porn goldmine on the internet is such a minor grievance. If the bouncing boobs seriously kill your Touhou experience, you might be too sensitive. Or you're looking for stupid shit to bitch about.

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Why is Reisen so overpowered in everything?

>>15991191
It was a sellout move, I agree.

>>16007089
But she's actually pretty weak in ULiL. Even ZUN himself says she's canonically weak.

>>16007266
Congrats, not the fucking point.

>>16007068
>Touhou 16 being PS4 exclusive

This would be amazing. Could you imagine the rage?
Sadly I'd never be able to play it, but I think I'd be worth it just to see /jp/ in flames.

I remember that some important person from Tasofro mentioning something about them still going to update the PC version.

Let's just hope the "update" they're talking about involved Reisen. Or the whole PS4 exclusive thing is just temporary to make the PS4 version sell for a while before making both versions equal in content.

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>>15981425
Not much changed but apparently the ULiL article got updated with a note.

>>16007805
/jp/ isn't /v/ dude.

>>15990648
Holy shit, a fucking communist bitching that Touhou game on the PS4 has an extra character. This is rich.

>>15981425
Unabara said they still have plans to update the PC version.
https://twitter.com/Pidgeo_Piroku/status/787511048035106817

>>16007847
/jp/ IS Touhou, dude.

Look what happened when they announced something as irrelevant as a console port for one of the spinoff games.
Now compare that to what would happen if 2hu 16 were to be announced as a PS4 Japan onry exclusive.

saying 2hu unironically makes you sound like a retard

>>16007964
Touhou is already a PC only Japan exclusive.

>>16007964
Obviously, Touhou 16 would take DDC's place as the forgotten installment.

Not that ZUN is so stupid to strangle his child franchise like this. See:
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Iruka_Unabara_x_ZUN_interview
>ZUN: Honestly speaking, I don't feel like releasing games there. Why not? Probably because I hate dealing with consoles.
>Iruka: You did say that porting a finished game onto a console would be spending time on it again, so you don't really like it.
>――: You don't like touching stuff you've done in the past?
>ZUN: More like I don't see the point in making a game from the beginning just so you can play it on consoles. But if Tasogare-san's the one making it and Sony can be satisfied, that'd be nice. But it won't be just a simple port, that's what I thought.

>>16007993
"PC only Japan exclusive" means it's not exclusive at all, and everyone can play it.
PS4? Not so much.

>>16008037
I'm a different guy butting in.

It can be called as "PC only Japan exclusive" since it was only released there for PC. It just so happens that anyone around the world can get a copy but the place where the game is originally sold is still only in Japan.

>>16007979
Not using any punctuation, or capitalizing properly, makes you sound like a retard too.

>>16008059
you sound like a retard right now

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>mfw ZUN himself leaks the Reisen content for PC under the name of the chinese hacker SUM

>>16008074
You sound like a retard all the time.

>>16008090
you look like a retard tho

>>16008090
>>16008092
Alright guys, just admit you love each other and go to a love hotel already.

>>16008074
>>16008092
Bo back to whatever shithole or irc channel you crawled out of.

>>16008101
>posting on /jp/, the shittiest place in the western touhou community
>calling other places shitholes

>>16008136
Who are you quoting?

>>16008146
These people are obviously not from here.
Fucktards of this degree have to come from #kusoplay or some other shithole of similar renown.

>>16007853
>attempting ad homs

>>16008016
>paying twice for online multiplayer
>arbitrary restrictions
>lack of portability
>planned obsolescence
He's right, Touhou isn't meant for COD boxes.

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Why would you even be butthurt about this?
It's not like it fundamentally changes the gameplay. Unless you're a Reisen waifufag, there's literally no reason why you should care.

>>16010161
It's more that this seems to set the precedence for official games to be either console exclusive or have console exclusive content, both of which are incredibly stupid.

>>15989383
People who payed money for the pc version would be more pissed off At least if you got for free you didn't loose anything. If you pay for a game you want the whole thing. Random people who think they represent a community are faggots.

>why would you be mad about this, it's literally nothing!!!

t.pirate secondary

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>>16008016
>DDC
>forgotten installment

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>>15981425
I can't feel anger anymore. All I have left is despair.

>>16010234
>this seems to set the precedence
No "precedence", the potential was always there. Either a game is ported with extra content or not; the only question was whether there would be an official Tasofro game on PS4 at all.
If you knew about ZUN's involvement, you would know that there's an extra character and scenario entirely because he thinks spending a bunch of time working on something you've already finished is pointless, and making new things is better.

>>16010450
>If you pay for a game you want the whole thing.
This wasn't even planned until well after the game was released already. Implying the PS4 version is "the whole thing" as if you were shafted by getting the original release is bullshit. Do you also think Hisoutensoku is just the "whole" release of SWR?

>>16010854
this gif is awful
https://twitter.com/enjou_7743/status/789873241699393536

>>15981425
He's gay

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>>15989383
Fucking roasted >>15983769

>>16010161
Hipsters feel like ZUN has sold out.

>>16013049
It would have been better if they hadn't included more content. Instead of, "here's a ps4 verision if you feel like playing it on this format", it's, "here's a bit more content that you'll pay for the same game over again for because you like sucking our jew cocks so much". Adding more is to encourage fanbois to give them more money.

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>>16010835
DDC.
Forgotten installment.

Take your shitty /tv/ memes out of here

>>16013596
>"here's a ps4 verision if you feel like playing it on this format"
If anyone interested had already bought it for the PC, why would you restrict your buying audience to only the people who hadn't already bought it for some reason? For that matter, without crossplay you'd be splitting your playerbase and restricting the PS4 audience to them alone, since there'd be no incentive for PC players to buy the PS4 version. By offering exclusive content that players will actually want to buy, you consolidate the playerbase while also, y'know, having more content. I don't think you've thought this through.

Additionally, we don't even know the extent of the new content; it is potentially on the scale of a new game, as Soku was, albeit unlikely to be quite that much.

>jew cocks
>fanbois
Please leave forever, by the way.