Dies irae ~Amantes amentes~ - English Localization Confirmed

>>15714498
but i want h

August will be next. All the dominoes will fall.

>>15714585
>August will be next.
I just fucking pray that Sekai doesn't pick them up.

Conjueror must be willing to accept it in a couple of days.

Interesting. Well, I hope the English audience likes it.

Lol I'm looking forward to all the tears of disappointment. People at reddit hyped as fuck and don't know what they're getting themselves into.

But regardless, it's great to see Dies being officially translated. Looking forward to it. That is, unless there's censorship.

>>15714624
>Steam release.
But, lucky for you, Amantes Amentes is the best version of the game.

>inb4 it's actually being done by some unknown Japan Contents tier shit company

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>>15714612
The only thing they like is being hyped up and shit. The prose is its only saving grace.
I'm reading Tokyo Babel now and judging by screenshots, the translator did it little justice. English just doesn't work for 中二.

>>15714498
>Garejei's and Conjueror's secret project has finally been revealed
Do we know if it's their project?

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>>15714721

I wish /jp/ would stop killing vnts threads in 48 hours.

That or I wish people would stop getting so triggered about the occasional midweek runoff threads.

>>15714753
If only /vn/ wasn't such a dumpster fire.

Considering the upcoming anime, figured it was only a matter of time.

>>15714498
Steam only? How fucking disappointing.

>all ages
into the trash

>>15714585
>August will be next. All the dominoes will fall.

>>15693372

From a list in the VNTL thread, now down to 7

>>15714753
it would just be better if regular VN discussion returned to /jp/ instead of being on /vg/

>>15714798
Dumbest post of the month

>>15714803
thank you

Was Amantes amentes the good version or Acta est Fabuls?

>>15714807
Amantes Amentes is the PSP version of the good version. So it's the latest release but stripped of the ero and with less graphic violence.

>>15714807
>I can only read the Dies Irae Amantes version, will I be missing much content from Acta est Fabula ?

>Not really. Just the ero scenes, which are mostly redundant and a few random places where "nazis" were changed to "third reich" for some reason (oh yeah, and the flashback of a certain someone getting raped through an eyesocket), but not much else.

http://ask.fm/Conjueror/answers/137798106075

>>15714753
Or you can fuck off, crossboarder.

>>15714814
>less graphic violence

into the trash

>>15714807

More routes, no porn

>>15714820

Case in point, one triggered person.

>>15714831
Exactly. That's what is keeping VNTS better than the garbage at /vn/.

>>15714791
Of those remaining, WA2, Oretsuba, and Aiyoku no Eustia seem possible, Sakura no Uta depends on Subahibi, Muramasa in Jast time, and Baldr Force seems unlikely without a Japanese remake.

>>15714834

Except the vnts has been full of retards the past month.

>>15714753
If the /vg/ kids didn't invade the thread every week because they've ruined their generals with constant shitposting, vnts would last the full week.

Amantes amentes is the version being used as the base for the anime, manga and LN adaptations.

It's pretty much the definitive version of Dies irae and the canon prequel/sequel to KKK.

Amantes amentes is Dies irae's Realta Nua.

>>15714843
Besides that one Yuki autist, who else? Most discussions were about VNs good and bad.

>>15714848
>Amantes amentes is Dies irae's Realta Nua.

So it's the shit version, damn.

just read acta as fabula for the story and amantes for the extra content

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>Steam only

Day one pirate

If you want to post about VNs all week long, then go post in /vn/

>But /vn/ is shit!

And that's why there's no need to force rolling threads

>>15714930

Last guy who tried to make a vnts runoff thread had some retard delete it after a bunch of triggered people reported it.

I suppose, sure, you could say "just make a thread for whatever it is", but what if it's not something thread worthy? For example, I noticed something interesting about mikandi's new store of theirs(the directories are open), but that's not worthy of a thread on it's own.

>>15714936
This. /vn/ is shit because eventually, they run out of things to say and just shitpost all day.

>>15714955

But the alternative is what's happening now, the thread dies instantly. I ain't saying make it a general. Just stop getting so buttblasted when it dies before wednesday(indicating that surprise, there's a lot to talk about), and someone makes a second to continue the conversation. I'd be on your side if it was someone making the thread friday night or saturday, but this is ridiculous.

>>15714969
You know, if it's insignificant and not worth a thread then it can wait until the VNTS thread is made.

>i hate vn gossip and drama so let me just derail this vn thread into irrelevant metashit

>>15714979

Better here than in the vnts.

>>15714976

Except when it can't.

>>15714969
Just go post on /vn/, it's full of people just like you

>>15714988
What do you mean "when it can't"? If it's insignificant, no thread needed. Just a post to the VNTS thread when it's up agaiin. When it IS significant make a thread no VNTS thread actually needed. What is the issue here?

>>15714979
Duly noted. I will stop.

I hope Conjueror can squeeze in another Miley Cyrus reference.

>>15714997

I've been posting on here since before there even was a vnts, I don't see myself changing my ways.

>>15715001

For example, that little hole could be closed up by then. Or something could then be old news. Or in the case of quickly deleted tweets, it becomes a game of "nice photoshop" because no one else caught it(this shit has literally happened to me).

In the end, it's all retarded. All this, for what? The current "quality" of the vnts? What quality?

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>no porn

Do I even need to tell you where it belongs?

The same place as flowers, Rewrite, and Umineko.

>>15715140
>not knowing japanese and being able to read Acta est Fabula + the extra stuff of Amantes amentes

I hope there's enough space in that trash can for you to fit in.

>>15715166
anyone get the full ask.fm answer before it was deleted?

>>15715140
>>15715163
BTFO

>>15715169

And it's all deleted now. I don't get why you'd try to hide it now, especially since deleting it is basically confirmation.

>>15715166
So this guy basically has no relation to the translation whatsoever.

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Fuck... after Dies Irae I'll just stop reading VNs altogether...

>>15715246

The ask.fm got changed. read between the lines https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/766722541817831424

>>15715248
Too lazy to read this stream of consciousness. Does he endorse it?

>>15715248
Didn't expect less from that retarded chink sperg.

http://ask.fm/Conjueror/answers/138087176923

>>15715248
This guy needs to kill himself as soon as possible.

>>15715248
>>15715312
Hopefully he gets killed when he goes back to china.

>>15715248

Despite liking a lot of what he tweets concerning cool books, I'm getting a bit tired of having my timeline flooded by something that can be easily condensed on a TweetLonger post everyday.

Following Kastel sure feels bitter.

>>15715248
Whenever I see people try to compare their shitty porn games to real literature I wonder why they even read shitty porn games.
If I wanted to read philosophical drivel I'd go back to college.

>>15715365
>real literature
What are you even doing here?

>>15715371
Enjoy this thread while reading Princess Evangile.
Like I said, I'm not into VNs myself because I want to read a real book. I want to see cute girls get dicked or chuu2 fights happen.

>>15715365
Because they like to read.

>>15715248
how do people like this even exist?

>>15714839
>Baldr Force seems unlikely without a Japanese remake
Aroduc might do a translation at some point since he has said he liked it. Only problem with it is that it doesn't play well with modern operating systems so you would have to include some Wine wrapper or something.

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>literally the worst version

Would be funny if its tanked.

>>15715514
If the anime is decent or popular it'll probably do all right. Otherwise I don't imagine it'll do much better than other plotge.

>>15715514
It's probably being published by someone with no knowledge of the English market or ability to market it. It'll be stealth released, left to its own devices, and sell a few thousand units.

>>15715514
The anime is the best advertising they can ask for. In much the same way that Island should do well as long as they time the release with the anime.

>>15715514
As long as they simultaneously release it with the anime or slightly after it'll do fine. If they have to delay release until months after it ended it'll tank.

>>15715523
> anime
Is not it just an OVA? If so, nobody outside of existing fans of the game would give a fuck.

>>15715566
There's gonna be a TV anime next year.

>>15715271
Yeah, he loves it

>>15715572
You sure about that? I just remember they crowdfunded an OVA.

>>15716038
He's not the translator though (it's Conjueror). He's just going to be the editor as usual since he can't translate for shit.

>>15716038
No he isn't. You'd be an idiot to think that. At most, he's doing small time editing or he translated just a bit. He's known for doin fuck all for translating, though. And Gare is Conjueror's main editor.

I can't believe those silly April fools pics from years back with steam having all the high profile VN's came true.

>>15716068
Is Steam the worst thing to happen to VNs? I think so.

Can't wait for all-ages SubaHibi!

Weekly reminder that the VN scene is dead

>>15715970
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/dies-irae-adult-visual-novel-gets-2017-tv-anime-series-adaptation/.96662

Yes.

>>15714586
Nice copypasta

>>15715984
It's reddit. Most of the guys that try to talk about /jp/ there don't understand this board culture and so not only embarass themselves but give the wrong impression to other people too. Anyway, reddit thinks it's funny to make fun of /jp/ so let them continue doing so. It's good to prevent their trash from coming here.

When you think about it, it's actually ironic because the /jp/ community is most influential on the scene.

>>15714585
Fuck you EOPs, August will not fall so low.

Hopefully when this bombs it will cause the death of the Steam VN market

>>15717056
Possibly. It's probably quite an expensive endeavor, so when it's only bought by few Redditors, losses might be great.

Hopefully it'll destroy the whole western market save for cheap nukiges and some other shit Mangagamer peddles.

>>15717056
Provided that they time it with the anime, it's more likely to be a hit to help keep the market afloat rather then the failure that brings down the market.

>>15717056
The sales of this are directly proportional to the popularity of the anime. If the anime catches on it'll probably do well, if it doesn't then it probably won't.

I'm sure it'll have decent legs even if it doesn't sell spectacularly on launch, but as with all other all-ages releases, my personal interest in this is pretty low right now. I'd much rather throw money at a random moege.

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By the way, remember this? Guess what, Amantes amentes is a console title, so that's the maybe third one to scratch off the list, I think?

Will the original japanese game get an HD version too?

They are going to save the best kamiges for last isn't it?

Wa2,eustia,muramasa,oretsuba...

>>15718030
Oretsuba seems like a tricky title in order to try and make money off of it in the West. It is still the obvious title in the event that Navel re-enters the market (though they do have a couple other titles they could go with), but despite as good as it may be, it seems to have limited appeal here and its sales performance would be far from guaranteed. Additionally, the HD assets are console/5pb exclusive for the time being.

>>15718262
It's an ultimate moe game, and moe is exactly what sells in the west afaik.

>>15718273
>moe is exactly what sells in the west

Smart choice to localize Dies Irae then.

>>15716068
This truly is the best timeline.

>all ages
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
Now I will never ever read Dies Irae.

>>15718496
Well, pray they also translate 'Also Sprach Zarathustra' just for you, then.

can't the fan translator just add the english text to "acta as fabula " similar like the did with eiyuu senki? you just need to changes "third reich" back to nazi and translate the h scenes and other things that got cut out.

problem solved

>>15718496
Haha.

>>15718283
Dies Irea, especially well timed, will sell proportionally to how well the anime takes off. Having an anime is the best commercial you can have in the Western market, so it is unlikely to follow good but poorly known titles without attractive art, like Root Double. If they time it to near the start of the anime, it doesn't even need to remain good, as just initial hype + good start would sell it very well.

>>15718924
> Having an anime is the best commercial you can have in the Western market
Then why second Grisaia sold like shit?

>>15718932
Anime is over, 18+ version is coming and first one did sell great.

>>15718946
>18+ version is coming
West don't care about porn.

>>15718946
West cares if there's no uncut alternative.

>>15718932
It's a fandisc, it's censored, Grisaia wasn't very popular as an anime, and it stopped airing quite a while ago. The ideal situation for Dies Irae is for it to release at least halfway through the anime's run (so it can get the most attention) and for the anime to at least be popular. It doesn't even need to be good, it just needs to capture an audience that wants more. If it can manage that, it'll probably do well enough.

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Reminder that Conjueror-sama is literally sacrificing his comfort to bring you chuunige masterpieces like Tokyo Babel and Dies Irae.

http://ask.fm/Conjueror/answers/138072838107

>>15719680
Kawaii desu ne~

>>15716284
Neato but what's going to happen to that OVA? Will they just use the funds for the 1st episode or something?

wtf i hate dies irae now

TLWiki lists Dies Irea Acta est Fabula at 3.26mb. For comparision purposes, does anyone have a script length for Amantes amentes version?

>>15720991
i don't, but amantes amantes is noticeably longer.

>>15720991
I think Conjueror or someone said it's an extra 700kb or something

Is it obvious enough where the H-scenes are supposed to happen?
I will not shy away from downloading the original with 100% save file and reading the porn when it's supposed to be read.

>>15721495
>reading masada
>eop

>>15714498
>Coming soon to Steam
Are all chances of the 18+ version being translated now lost, or can we get both?

>>15722460
only amantes,

>>15721510
Just the porn.

>>15722460
Considering Conjueror has already tried to defend the all-ages version (even before this poster) and they specifically list the Amantes version, it's pretty obvious that there won't be an 18+ release.

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> kickstarter

>Censored + cropped + steam + kickstarter.
Not touching with a 10 foot pole.

>>15727844
haha wow

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>>15727844
english translation

>>15714948
>I noticed something interesting about mikandi's new store of theirs(the directories are open), but that's not worthy of a thread on it's own.
Why not?

>>15718952
The porn was like the entire point of the second one.

Like, if the second sold like shit compared to the first it makes sense because the second WAS shit compared to the first. Only the porn and the small skits were any good.

More hyped for bringing over Rance 6 and for more gameplay eroge in general to be honest. Funny how I prefer some of them to actual JRPGs most of the time, even storywise.

>>15732689
Well VI is better than your average JRPG to begin with.

>>15732620

Because there's nothing of interest in them(yet at least) aside from what's probably just an unusual choice of test image. https://lvxero.com/wp-content/uploads/tats-wallpaper.jpg

>>15722460
When Amantes is translated it's only a matter of time when someone will extract the text from Amantes and transfer it to Fabula. I've seen somebody doing it already.

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>>15727844
>>15732578

>kickstarter

>>15718932
Because the whole point of the side stories are the erotic scenes and gags which were censored in the official English release?

>>15739660
Ero is holding back eroge.

>>15739660
As they say in Umineko. "Without love it cannot be seen". It means that no ero version prevents you from seeing the story.

>People legitimately don't think that there is anything wrong with censorship
I would have pirated this either way desu senpai

>>15740198
>pirating a kamige

>>15732801
What I would kill if Falcom had ero in their games. Even Gust.

>>15738687
This. Thankfully the fan TL scene actually seems to care. Hopefully when no one buys this shitty release they will realize that actively censoring a game about nazis and sex and shit doesn't work.

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>>15739711
>>15739747

>>15740416
>translating an all-ages version is actively censoring it

Does it go without saying that the 'HD release' will mean a cropped widescreen version?

>>15740649
Yes, not giving us the uncensored version is censorship.

>>15740725
I haven't given you an uncensored version of anything, so I suppose I'm the greatest censor ever.

Light should make a version that has everything uncensored, as well as the additional content from Amantes amentes, but I doubt that's ever going to happen

>>15740773
That's the only acceptable option.

>>15740677
It's definitely cropped, since they've already released a cropped version. But it remains to be see how they'll be doing the upscales to make it "HD."

>>15740950
I played it on android, and it looks really really good

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>implying it will get funded

I'm quoting this whole thread.

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>>15741438
>implying that the meme power isn't there.
Come on, Anon. Dies Irae is so meme nowdays that 250k can be reached before the KS runs out of time.

>>15741506
If they launch it alongside the anime, certainly.
If they don't, who knows. Lots of "hardcore" VN readers are jaded and turned off towards Kickstarters now. Then there's a small portion of people who will refuse to pay for all-ages stuff, even if it's the definitive version of the game.
I can't think of a single VN that got Kickstarted on name alone. Basically every title that has been a huge success has had a fan translation, anime, or both. Perhaps if DI had some fan TL already and constant circlejerk threads like Muv-Luv it'd be in a better state.
I do think it'll be funded, but I have my doubts about how quickly they'll get the money and if they'll reach whatever stretch goals they set. That stuff will most likely depend on what merch is offered.

As somebody who threw away money for Muv-Luv's Kickstarter (mostly for the physical discs), I have no intentions of funding DI or any other VN, regardless of their meme status.

>>15741612
Do you regret supporting the Muv-Luv kickstarter or is the quality of the physical merchandise not up to par?

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>Kickstarter succeeds and we get an HD version of Dies on PC funded by EOPs
or
>Kickstarter fails and we drink the tears of plebs

There's no losing here lads, let's just enjoy the ride.

>>15741865
>HD version
Why getting cropped version would be a good thing?

>>15742300
I'm playing the HD version right now and legit, it looks pretty good

>>15742300
Well, they advertised it to the japs because it's apparently a superior edition. That's how it got leaked out.

>>15740361
>chuuni trash
>kamige
Fuck off Moogy.

Please don't tell me Sekai is involved in this...

>>15741632
I'll let you know in a year when I finally get my box. The Steam release is pretty good and they've been rather forward with their backer updates, though. Haven't done anything to make me regret it yet.
I am just not a big fan of crowdfunding.

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>>15743210
720p HD

Also if they make it better to play it on tablets that would help a lot.
Current PC version works like shit on mine.

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>>15743210
>>15743211

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>>15743214

The upscaling isn't bad but the cropping is disgusting. I'd much rather play a 4:3 resolution.

Upscales look like they've been saved out of a youtube video

>>15743210
>>15743211
>>15743214
>>15743218
Good thing I learned a bit of nip for this.
That cropping is awful.

It would be nice if there was an option to choose between the original 800x600 and the new 1280x720. I doubt there will be though

>>15743214
I'd rather play without black bars than have that little extra hair on top. I really don't get what's so bad about cropping, never heard of any PSP players complaining about it.

>>15743626
>What is so bad about part of the art being chopped off

Huh

>>15743626
Basically, the cropping of the "visual"s from a visual novel

>>15743214
>>15743218
The upscaling looks fine, I don't know why they felt the need to crop it though. Do people really hate black bars so much?

>>15743356
Am I really the only person who sees all that banding and artifacting in the upscales?
In >>15743211 its almost like it's overexposed or something

>>15743626
Cropping is cheap. They should re-draw the sides instead and make it a real HD version. That would show they care and aren't trying to just cash in.

>>15743732
Or just leave it well alone at 4:3

>>15743647
I mean, I understand that, but artists almost never put anything important at the edges of the screen anyway.

If it was something important being cut off then sure, I'd be pissed too, but now it's just a bit of hair and clothes.

I didn't buy a 4K TV to read 800x600 shit with black bars ruining half of the screen.

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>>15743966
>buy an 4k TV
>using it for a VN from 2007
Anon, are you retarded?

>>15743966
Unless it is porn, the CG isn't important at all. Instead of a sitting girl CG scene I can just read that she is sitting down. Instead of a fight scene, I can just read how they fight.

Just remove all CG and fill the screen with 4K text. That is what people really want. No stupid low resolution, just fullscreen mode with as much story as you can cram down their throats.

>>15743986
Well, excuse me, but as far as I'm concerned it's coming out in 2017 or whenever they are planning to release it.

>>15743966
They didn't redraw the CGs so the base resolution is meaningless. You will barely notice the difference between something being upscaled with an algorithm and your TV doing the upscaling itself. In this case, the only benefit from the cropping is that it'll take up the entire of the screen, but as the images are not being drawn in higher resolution you're not actually gaining anything from this, other than your autism at black bars being curbed.

Regardless, there are cases where the parts of the image being removed are important. Like the comparison shot in VNTS (>>15723826) where most of the chuu2 writing on the sword is cut off. Not to mention that the focal point of this particular CG makes it look more than a bit odd to be cropped.

They really should just have both the 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions available when they do this. It does seem like DI will have 800x600 available, though.

>>15744039
10 years after the initial release.
In 720p.
With cropped CG.

Enjoy it, idiot.

>>15744056
Scratch that, just re-read their announcement picture. No 800x600 confirmed.
Enjoy your cropped images, /jp/. Now you're really like the Japanese!

I hope that the Dies Irae team isn't looking to Muv Luv as a baseline for Kickstarter, if they do it before the anime. On the surface it makes sense to compare them, both are huge titles in Japan. But Muv Luv was the accumulation of several years of largely uniform praise in places where a broad community would see it, from the well played fan translation. Dies Irae on the other hand, is largely unknown and a hard sell that you have to explain to a crowd that isn't going to be listening (which includes the press). Muv Luv also had a fantastic marketing team behind it, something that it looks like Dies Irae is going to be lacking.

The math changes while the anime is airing, as the early episodes are likely to be meant with much praise, and suddenly the topic of a Dies Irae kickstarter is very newsworthy and you have an audience now willing to listen.

I don't understand why cropping is necessary. Why does it need to be widescreen at all?

>>15744415
I'm guessing they are probably doing this to have something new to sell in Japan with the anime, and figure that it would be the best version to release here.

>>15744339
In all honesty I don't even know why it made money. I'd have pitched in if I wasn't ignoring kickstarters back then, but mainly for the uncensored game promises.

>>15744056
You realize they didn't upscale anything, right? The android version has been out for a while, which will be the one coming to PC. They've cropped the high resolution art assets.

http://www.light.gr.jp/light/mobile/products/dies_aa/
Many comparisons and examples here.

>>15744431
It had a reputation for being an amazing, top tier title with a broad community, and it was timed perfectly, right after 2 other big hits when VN kickstarters were a big deal. It then kept its momentum by letting the early success feed into more success and by the great team running it.

>>15714498
FUG

I still haven't even got past 1/4th of it. Better grab all the memes before secondaries get it.

>>15744431
I'm pretty sure most of Muv-Luv success comes from the merch and people pushing for the stretch goals to get hit so all the fan discs got TL'd. It worked out pretty well since it seems like Degica will try to bring everything over eventually except fro TE.

>>15744514
I don't see a single comparison shot on that website other than the first one, which doesn't display either picture at their native resolutions, which means it's useless as a comparison shot. In fact none of the screen shots on there are even 720, they're 506, which makes them completely useless for comparison shots.

I don't see any mention of it using "high resolution art assets" either. I mean, you can just see the screenshots anon posted. They look upscaled to me, but maybe I'm blind and they are the original versions of the CGs, just cropped.
The screenshots on the android site are just to show the interface changes, anyway.

>>15744678
They're not upscaled. They're crops of the high resolution 4:3 source material. You will get cropped, high resolution downscaled art. It's not going to be pixelated or have any kind of terrible filter.

>>15744866

The fence in >>15743214 looks pixellated as hell. But then again, it could just be because it's jpg

>>15743986
Flawless logic. Are you implying that he bought a 4k TV exclusively for low resolution visual novels, or that such hardware is one-time use? Should he put the 4k TV aside when reading old visual novels? You don't have the right to question anyone's intelligence.

>>15744571
memes...
you gotta catch'em all