General Nutaku and DMM Thread 120

She is not bad unit and really beautiful
Worth SCs to farming her

Nice, you only need 1000 sealing amulets for -4 CR, there's a free platinum cost reduction spirit to be had at just above that (and a black one if you go higher), and the 50/7 map has a platinum fairy drop. Also, Nurarihyon doesn't drop anything on that map and his second form is melee-only, so you can safely ignore him.

Time to farm this until I hit 1000 amulets or exhaust my tincan supply, whichever comes sooner.

>>15671381
Do the fairies drop often enough to justify that? I'm thinking of doing the same

>>15671549
7 stam map has best droprate if you have AW thief

>>15671570
I don't have an AW thief

Looks like they added choose 6 star ticket for a 5k roll.

Got nothing from the roll, picked Sakura.

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Thats a big sword

>>15671605
>has 4990 gold at the moment

Well, shit.

>>15671635
Did you play the nutaku puzzle game?

>Olivia in the guaranteed pull for blacks
>black samurai I really like the look of as item collection
oh no
what do I do?

every other time Olivia was in chance up I blew all my sc trying to get her. now she has the biggest chance up ever. now would be best chance I have at getting her

but the samurai..

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>>15671682
At time like this you must your dick.
On other note, what does the line in red circle mean? I can only understand "class change something something"

>>15671797
Current pick up gacha is for special unit classes.
Smaller circle say special unit doesnt need to be CC'ed for maxing affection.
The other one say that not all special units are available in this gacha.

>>15671669
Only one left is the 7-day login.

>>15671570
>>15671584
I'm Lv68 and don't have AW thief but manage to farm at least 10 seals (average 13) and Kazuha with only 1 star.
My strategy is to deploy 2 strongest mages ASAP killing those Jiraigumos, Kamaitachi and tengus while maintaining defensive formation.

So how many silver samurai will be needed to CC Hibari. I only have 1 Sanosuke from the 2nd map. I don't wanna waste my resource to farm 2nd map instead of doing ezseal map 4.
I should check if upcoming remake events will drop any silver samurai.

>>15671982
Same as plat samurai

We've now got 2 guaranteed rainbow on nutaku FKG active, the old 6000 gold for a 5* and 6*, and the new 5000 gold for a 6*.
If only I could bare to spend the money on it, Aigis is so much better for me, gambling is how I got 4 blacks for roughly double, getting things handed to you feels so boring.

>>15672478
Are you implying people who prefer DMM Aigis are masochists who enjoy suffering and despair?

>>15672478
At least on Nutaku, but I think it's easier to get most of what you need when you whale in Aigis.

In FKG, you could be screwed for a long time to get the rainbow waifu you want (or a rainbow ever), so these frequent gachas are a godsend, albeit straining on the wallet.

>>15672768
Its more that the people that prefer FKGs system are boring in that they want to take all the fun out of a collection game.

Its not the people that take advantage of it, its those who think its a better system.

FKG needs some sort of heavily discounted 10+1 gacha pulls, like the 100 gold single pulls.

>>15672478
>>15672768
Meh, FKG is just another mindless collection cash cow game

Oh hey, the saturday morning cartoon ninja thugs makes a return now!

>>15672977

Different business model, different objective. The FKG system isn't good for gambling. Those who want that thrill go elsewhere. You cannot 'complete your collection' off these guaranteed deals. FKG taps more into "I really need this specific waifu".

If gambling and collection is how you derive fun, then FKG's system is worse for you.

>>15673340
>If gambling and collection is how you derive fun, then FKG's system is worse for you.
Tell this to 6 heroes who have every single flower knight in the game.

I wish there was a gold version of Rengesou (FKG). I really like her for some reason.

>>15673597
Vote for her in next poll.

>>15673671
There are polls? Where are they announced?

>>15673361

That is why they are heroes - they overcome the odds that devour mere mortals.

>>15673678
They work as in-game event, cannot miss one.
Happen about once or twice per year, so next one is going to take a while before it happens.

>>15673713
When was the last one?

>>15673751
On January 2016 (Rainlily event), with Lycoris/Dianthus/Anemone as winners. The first was on May 2015 (Lechenaultia event), with Oncidium/Camellia/Cactus as winners, so if the pattern holds, we may get another towards the end of the year.

In addition to that, they add new versions for popular girls on a regular basis, though these are generally chosen from golds/rainbows. Alstroemeria as the only 3* explicitly set to get a new version, which will be a rainbow and given for free as a cumulative log-in prize.

>>15672977
You get a free 11x draw every other week on average, and there are 5000 DMM point deals for rainbows. I don't really see the need for a discount 11x option.

But speaking of 100 gold pulls, 2ch rumor says that their chances for a gold/rainbow is double the usual.

>>15673992
Well, people just really like Alstroemeria and the devs recognized that.
Mint may get a powered up version too if all of her crazy fans still throwing votes for her in the next popularity poll.

Anything Aigis related at c90?

>>15674983
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=C90%20%E5%8D%83%E5%B9%B4%E6%88%A6%E4%BA%89%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AE%E3%82%B9&abt=x

Scans never.

>>15675044
Those rude Metus tiddies
Too bad most of aigis stuff doesn't even get scanned, let alone translated

Looks like nutaku is trying to break into the chinese copyright infringement p2w browser mmo space.

They announced that they are hosting a proficient city game. I though kongregate had most of those bagged up.

>>15677242
chink shit is much better than western "games", so it could be interesting

What's the time daily pull reset in DMM Kanpani ?

>>15678793
4:00 JST.

This 7sta map is shit, only got a single fairy(the guaranteed one) after like 6 runs

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>>15678911
Are you talking about the event map?
That map is easy to farm seals. I got 13 seals on average per run.
pls no bully ;__;

>>15679657
I even got non with AW thief, lol.

>>15679693
You killed everything right? You should be able to get 10 seals easy from the Jiraigumos even without a thief.
Me on the other hand are not powerful enough to kill worm grampa youkai so I will never get the spirit.

>>15679818
I've got some 0 seals drops from it too, with AW Leda. RNG is RNG.

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>>15679875
For (You) anon-kun. I just did it a few minutes ago. Even with crappy 1 star result I managed to nab 13 seals. If Aegis-sama feels really generous she even threw me Kazuha as a bonus.

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Finally have my Nendo Sybilla, she is so damn cute, I have a nutaku account with Sybilla but I'll start now playing in the jap.

Whats the current event right now? I readed something about guantered Black Unit?

>>15680118
Yes it's a samurai tho.
Current event is item (seal) farm event. Collect 25 seals and you got her after the event ended. For me the best map to farm seals is the 4th one. >>15680040 is my average result.

>>15680152
How hard is the event for new players?

I have Despara and Saphire Sybilla that is like a black awakened Sybilla but with less levels so I think she is a bit weaker.

>>15680118
>not playing on DMM
>still playing on garbage Nutaku
Are you masochist ?

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>>15680176
I'll endure anything for Sybilla, now that I can have her in the jp I'm no gonna play in nutaku again.

>>15680169
What's your level?
For me (Lv 70) it's rather hard. Even the blue ogres already gave me troubles. There's also enemies that can one hit you easily from 3rd map and so on. I would advise you to just let the unkillable enemies pass through and focus on reaching the 4th map. For 4th map I follow the tactics similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVG31CUgj54
Make sure you have at least 2 CC mages and decent defensive units for the map.

>>15680176
Actually playing on DMM is for the masochists since you will never get a premium black unit and continue to despair.
Aigis Nutaku is for people who values the meaning of patience.

>>15680284
>you will never get a premium black unit
I play DMM and I got premium black units while not paying even single cent.

>>15680284
On DMM I got >200 SC I could spend on rolling, and plat ticket as bonus during last month.
On Nutaku I got like 15 SC.
On DMM they also making these pickup gachas with only 4-6 black units in gacha lineup, and your chance to hit one you want is very high.
On Nutaku they are doing same old "all units ever at once" shit.

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>>15680284
I know who you are. Anon, it isn't funny this time.

>>15680330
There's zero point to arguing about Nutaku vs DMM aigis right now, next month yes you should have something to argue about but doing it now just makes DMM players look stupid.

Seriously, comparing my shit to Nutakus aigis is also going to make me look stupid even though its almost a fair comparison.

Wait until there's something to argue about before you put the effort into it.

>>15680492
> pretending to believe "muh transfer of control" meme
Just stop posting.

>>15680499
Is there any point in not believing?
Its a plus for everyone that doesn't speak japanese even if they don't play it.

If it doesn't happen its not a step backwards cause there's no more room to go backwards.
Noone will be suprised if nothing happens but hoping for an improvement isn't a bad thing.

So..is DMM not thar far better than Nutaku?

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>>15680650
I know who you are. It isn't bait time, and it isn't funny at all, anon.

>>15680529
>there's no more room to go backwards
You're right in general, but I really wouldn't underestimate Nutaku's capacity to fuck things up.

But yeah, the current EN Aigis is so horrid that it doesn't even form a point of comparison, the only reason to play it is in hopes that Nutaku will improve things after they gain ownership.

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>>15680666
Serious question, Im the Sybilla guy, just changed to DMM and I want to know it.

>>15680681
If you compared Nutaku to dogshit, it's big insult to dogshit
Are you clear?

>>15680650
DMM is much better than Nutaku, but that's because the version Nutaku gets is incredibly limited. Let's put it this way: Last month, DMM had a gold rush, a new majin advent, a grand march and something like 25 daily revivals (a past event released every day for the whole month) in addition to a constant stream of new events (there was a break week, but even that had a 1.5x boost to all daily maps). In contrast, Nutaku had only a couple events to its name, with breaks all around.

EN-side players are hoping that once Nutaku takes full control of the game, they will improve things. But even then, DMM is very likely to be the preferable version, like how Nutaku FKG is a serviceable game by itself but much worse than its incredibly generous and well-run DMM counterpart. You'd be well-advised to make the switch.

>>15680666
Stop with this "bait" nonsense, seriously. The dude asked a question, either answer or shut it.

>>15680727
Thanks, How different is in the SC part? Do you gain far more SC in DMM? And rates up and such

>>15680681
It should have been crystal clear within 10 seconds of loading up the game, and realizing there was actually an event going on. And not just an event, but also a subjugation at the same time.

>>15680795
Because thats never happened on Nutakus version, right?
It'd take a week to realize that difference.

>>15680768
Yes. Since there's no breaks on DMM, there's a pretty constant stream of SCs.
Thanks to the Daily Revivals, I've gotten and used maybe 250 SCs in the last 2 months DMM, while on Nutaku I don't think I got more than 20 in the same timeframe.

>>15680768
Rate up campaigns are similar, with two exceptions. First, the gacha is split into two, with older units moved out of it and into a secondary "revival gacha". The standard gacha on the left side of the shrine screen contains only more recent units, with familiar girls like Nanaly and Sybilla found only in the revival pool. The revival gacha only appears at certain periods and has its own set of highlight units.

Alternating with this is the new "pick-up gacha" system, where the gacha poll only contains a very limited number of girls. For example, the first pick-up poll we had featured only healers, archers, heavy armors and soldiers, while the second, current one has the special classes (these that don't need CC, like princesses, hermits and swordmasters, and yes, Sybilla is featured there). These restrictions only apply to platinum and black units, it's everything-goes for gold and silvers.

As for SCs, yes, you will get a fair bit more. This is because events occur much more frequently compared to Nutaku, and apology SCs/bonus log-in crystal campaigns are not infrequent as well (though Dev Tea can't even vaguely approach the DMM FKG team in that category, since the latter is evidently trying to drown their users in paid currency). The daily revival system itself is a free 150+ SC for anyone strong enough to clear all the maps, and it's on constant rotation to boot.

However, do note that it'll still take some time to reach the point where you have a solid team, and that you're very strongly advised to retain around 40 SC for item collection events (like the current samurai), which now come with free cost reduction fairies at higher collection tiers. These act like a copy of a unit for CR purposes and were only available from 3rd H-scene quests/250-SC stamp card before, and they're obviously very useful for every player.

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>since the latter is evidently trying to drown their users in paid currency

Case in point.

>>15680824
>>15680861

Thats sound very nice.

A question about the revival events, if I complete per example the revival event of Memento, and after some months the revival event of Memento is active again, can I get the SC again of these missions?

>>15680885
The beautiful thing about it is that they decided 120 flower stones (plus the local equivalents of fairies, tin cans, AW fairies, magic crystals and collection event items) weren't enough and are going to give out some more tomorrow. FKG devs best devs.

>>15680913
No, these maps record whether you have cleared them.

Also note that daily revivals apply only for unit collection events, item collection and star trial events have a different revival system where you grind the maps to collect revival crystals and buy the unit with these. Fortunately, the event units in question get 2x to their SU/CR chances during that time, so it's 50% to get your -4 CR Memento to -5, for example.

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>>15680284
>you will never get a premium black unit
You will if you keep at it.

You see here the single thing I have bought for this game, Patel. Because she's fucking cute and I love how she looks. No money spent on anything else, sc included, and here are all the premium blacks I've obtained since January 2015.

DMM has been drowning people in SC's ever since they had eh, 150 or so as an apology for people cheating? Now with a massive group of revivals being rotated and the 4* maps the free player has truckloads of SC's to spend on gacha, and if they spent 150 in one month, easily doable with the revivals, it's guaranteed plat or higher with a good chance of a black.

You can of course still be unlucky, but at the same time you could have absurd luck and pull 4 blacks in 50sc.

>>15680861
>>15680885
Gatcha in FKG is fucking 0.5% while Aigis is 3%. Gold in FKG can't compared to Aigis plat in usefulness. Other rarities are trash on FKG while on Aigis, it has its used
Slow down your fanboyism a bit, you disgusting shill

>>15680964
Fuck you. I've played at the same time as you and only have one premium black. Die in hell

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FKG
What's this?

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>>15681048
Patel could be a good luck charm.

I only had Dina and Mikoto before I got her. She must be rewarding me.

now if only I could get her sister.

>>15681025
This is flat-out wrong. Golds are the staple of nearly every team and there's no map in the game that you can't clear with them (hell, somebody did the toughest available whale map with silvers and bronzes). This is very much unlike level 15 majin maps, which not only require you to use blacks, but demand some specific blacks like Iris to pull through.

After the removal of medal events, there is also no event in FKG that you cannot complete as a beginning player and without spending flower stones, unlike in Aigis where you'll need a month at minimum to be able to tackle star trials, and won't ever get a maxed item collection unit without sending a couple dozen SCs down the drain.

Aigis' main advantage over FKG is that it has actual gameplay. It cannot match FKG when it comes to generosity with paid currency. Try to actually play the game before pulling shit out of your ass.

>>15681129
"Do you want to send a friend request to this guy?"

Someone got the Rainbow Alstroemeria yet?

>>15682106
They haven't released her yet, probably around late august or early september.

Have they changed the character quest earrings to be useful on DMM FKG yet, also how useful will they be?

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>>15682281
They disabled the system for the time being, after the recent server troubles.

They will provide a minor but free benefit when they are enabled again, since they will occupy an extra slot for character accessories alone. Some of them will also have their stats, names and appearances tweaked in as-yet unknown ways.

Also, looks like Sasayuki has a new artbook and standalone illustrations for Comiket. Too bad that it (and other FKG/Aigis stuff) isn't likely to be scanned.

>>15682188
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks.

>>15682323
It's by Sasayuki so chance that it may get scanned like his previous FKG/Aigis stuff.

These pick up gachas are still shit.

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I have a question, I really want to spend the 150 crystals earned from those daily revivals to get her (mainly the reason why I started playing a long time ago), but now I see that she is in the revival gacha, does this means she won't come back to the other gacha again? The only reason I'm not rolling is because I really don't like those other ones in the gacha lineup.

>>15682890
She's in a pick-up, not revival. Hasn't been moved to revival yet, IIRC.

Heck, Dolce and Racula are in the pick-up and they're only a few months old.

>>15682937
Damn I thought it was the same revival gacha, I was surprised to see her there too, she isn't that old.

>>15680727
>Nutaku had only a couple events to its name
> couple
You mean 1.

Altia is such an overpowered unit
She's fully capable of tanking all those ninjas on 9sta map with just one healer on her, despite being a soldier

5 runs of saturday daily on nutaku aigis, 1 orb drop. I didn't want to awaken Solano anyway.

>>15684756
AW Katie too, despite being a gold soldier, tanking ninjas is nothing remarkable.

>>15684756
So can Jerome.

>>15684756
Surprise because black units are OP?
Or you just want to show off?

>>15686752
I think he just want to show off.

>>15686752
>>15687349
It's probably a surprise since Altia is still a soldier and her purpose is to ramp instead of hitting things.

Hell, she's not much better than Jerome when it comes to ramping, so you could argue that she is not as broken as some other blacks.

Once you go black you can't go back.

>>15687396
This kind of comment surges every time when a person says "Altia can tank" or "Altia can kill" wtf is wrong with you people? she is a black with more than high stats for her class, it's not surprising and surely nothing of notable value, the only good thing whas the guy who said that KT can tank them, for a gold and a soldier, it seems there is a Altia fanboy who forgets she is a black before a fighter in nearly every event.

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Noob question about FKG.
Do stats given by ampy beasts and the things that upgrade skills disappear after evolving a girl?

And also, what's that? She has dirty thoughts?

>>15689835
Stat/skill boosts persist through both evolutions.

And yes, she's lewd as fuck.

>>15680931
>The beautiful thing about it is that they decided 120 flower stones (plus the local equivalents of fairies, tin cans, AW fairies, magic crystals and collection event items) weren't enough and are going to give out some more tomorrow.
I don't think I got anything?

And now it's in maintenance. Here we go again.

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Man, people weren't kidding about Sakura.

>>15684756
Altia's strength isn't really in tanking, it's in her awoken skill making her dps insanely high for a negative cost investment.

FKG is up with char-limited equip slots, and nothing seems to have exploded yet.

Also, Oncidium (non-bride) blossom, she gets skill trigger up on top of 10% attack up.

>>15691262
For now.

Finally a use for those things.

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They redesigned item-levelling items. Much easier to spot them now.

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Nice clothes, but her face looks somewhat off.

>>15691460
I like this face more than original version.

>>15691460
It's like she's holding the affection in her palm.

>>15691460
My wife Oncidium is cute as always.

Did they screw with drops or what? Was grinding 7sta map with AW thief since event launch, and I'm getting average drop rate way below what it was for past collection events, I'm actually losing to 9sta map with huge margin, AND not getting any plat fairies.

>>15691508
Because she wants to show you how her love for you.

>>15691914
You're supposed to be getting lower drops than on the 9 stamina map.

>>15692277
No, with AW thief you are supposed to get more on average.

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nice, now character accessories have their own slot in FKG

I cant find this one's owner please help

>>15692336
Southern Cross.

>>15692308
Not that guy but how do you know? I feel like I'm getting less on the 7 stamina map.

>>15692351
thanks

So how does that black samurai look, statwise? She seemed painfully useless in that 9sta map, and even with skill active she didn't do that much damage

>>15693379
2336 HP, 647 attack, 552 defense at CC70. Her skill is also level 5 instead of level 10 on that map, so you don't get the full mileage out of it.

In the end, she'll probably be comparable to Shizuka, but with a much lower initial. Depends on her AW ability I guess.

Is there a way to lose three stars without leaking or letting a unit die? Did my first daily today and got two stars without making any mistakes that I know of, but I did take a long time to complete.

Triple healer on leeanne, hah

>>15695003
No. The most likely explanation is that something died on a far-off corner and you didn't notice.

Also note that the deaths of pre-set "ally" units do count for that purpose.

>>15695025
>:(

It's a hard life. No platinum armor for me.

The charisma drain in this game is way too intense, it's impossible to play aigis for more than 20 min at a time max

>>15695610
>charisma
Did you mean stamina or does Aigis really have charisma?

>>15695610
Works for me. I like playing Aigis in short bursts.

Trying to burn through your charisma bar before auto complete was a fucking chore and I do not miss it.

>>15695622
>>15695622
charisma. about three missions until you run out, and if you fail any one of those then you will be waiting since its about 3 missions until you level and refill also

costs a buck to fill it with money

>>15695657
Kinda similar to FKG, but the bar gets larger when you level.

Why is it called charisma though?

>>15695666
How should I know. You get a larger total charisma as you level, but the cost per mission increases anyways so it doesnt really matter

There is also stamina for non story missions, so two bars to watch out for

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I need someone to verify it for me.
I knew buying Alisa costs 1400 dmm points as it said there.
Someone claimed that you can buy her using 14 SC then someone countered that you will get 14 SC for buying her.
Need help.

>>15696139
Its 1400 points for Alisa + 14 SC. There's no option to buy it for SC and it would make no sense.

>>15696139
She's one of the few units in the game that can breach 1.5k defense, so she's extremely useful for those without a strong tank.

1884 for 50 seconds at max awakening with saw to be exact. Even more if you have Prince down.

>>15696430
Isn't she supposed to be available for 400 crystals later on? You can get her that way too.

Still, 1400 DMM points is a bargain for a unit of her caliber, especially if you take the SCs into account.

Does Touken Ranbu go here or in the kancolle thread?

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Bunch of prereg games finished prereg gacha and/or launched.

As always, I'm deeply disappointed by actual games. Why the fuck they keep churning lowest-effort mobile-to-pc ports like picrelated?
You'd think someone would finally take a clue about Aigis/FKG success.

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I'm finally free.

I see the google TL'er that did Memento's intro did the same work with Emilia's.

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Someone was paid for this

>>15697085
A shame too, because I drew a legendary on that one.

>>15697146
Well, I at least get the gist of it. Stopped playing Nutaku games in general for a few weeks now. Don't regret it.

>>15697146
Holy shit, this is the worst "translation" they made by far.
Why release an event if they don't care at all?

>>15697143
>>15697146
>>15697210
Like last time, the actual event map dialogue is somehow fine. It's only the intro that they evidently gave no fucks about.

>>15697220
I accidentally went a little fast on reading but on the one where you can only use range I thought I read Emilia saying how will I be able to deal with fast units when you can only use melee.

>>15697146
I dont remember quite seeing an event before, that has so deliberately been google translated.

>>15697237
They probably just forgot a negative. At least the grammar structure is correct, unlike... that mess.

>>15697240
Did you not get far enough in Memento's event to see her terrible intro?

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>>15697249
Memento's event was bad, but I don't remember it being AS bad as this. Google translate clearly had more difficulty with the sentences of this event.

>>15697237

Nice, just rolled a Chizuru. But I already have a 30 sanosuke and his ability seems to be better. 1.2 defense instead of just blocking ranged attacks. Is using a gold always better? I'm pretty hesitant to replace him since he dies easily already

>>15697085
> Why the fuck they keep churning lowest-effort mobile-to-pc ports like picrelated?

Pick one:
- Cashgrab strategy
- Dunning-Kruger "I can't tell the difference between a good game and a bad one - you just need pretty pictures right?"
- Ultra noobs freshly weened off Farmville et al style Facebook games. They are astonished by how 'good' these shit games are for their standards.

>2 weeks of waiting
>1 hour of new content
>Wait another 2 weeks
Someone liberate me from this stockholm syndrome

Does anyone have that nutaku forum post that has the expected schedule handy?

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>>15697327 >>15697085
The strange thing is how they are EXACTLY the same game, a literal reskin.

Makes me wonder how that company makes any profits.

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>>15697464
And the new game.

>>15697464
There are plenty of other games of this sort on DMM, they literally just keep releasing one every 2-3 months.

>>15697322
Honestly I don't even understand why you'd ever want to run a samurai.

>>15697464
>>15697469
These are standard for browser/mobage games, there are shit ton of them that play exactly like this.

>>15697469
How did the character sprites somehow get shittier?

>>15682890
What does she do? I just started on DMM and got her.

>AW78 Mehlis has 609 attack and 240 range
>CC35 Ester has 597 attack and 260 range
You know, I never actually noticed just how huge the stat difference between golds and blacks is.

I knew golds were shit statwise compared to blacks but I never had such a level gap between them like this.

>>15689835
>she doesn't have the daydreaming sprite in the nutaku version

why even live

How on earth does one even do the magic city maps? Those are ridiculously hard.

>>15698281
Git gud. There are plenty of videos with common non-AW units only.

>>15698305
I've checked, none of the videos have non-AW units. The only two exceptions have all boosts bought (and only get a 2-star).

>>15698330
>>15698305
Specifically I'm talking about the 3rd magic city map.

>>15695666
Because the hero is a prince.

>>15698359
Oh, that makes sense.

>>15698330
So skip the magic city maps with 2star maps and return to them later
Its 100% viable to buy goddess buffs to rush the storyline until the Prince's armor

Is it worth it to start over on dmm? I'm about level 20 on nutaku by playing free and I'm already running into trouble progressing because of how stingy the charisma is. Only great unit I've got is pirate princess amelia.

I only speak/read english though.

>>15699737
You should never start on Nutaku at this point, but your complaints won't blow over by starting over in DMM. You'll still need to spend about a month of playtime before your charisma/stamina levels and core team isn't shit.

Also, if that was your post on Facebook, you're a dumbass.

>>15699756
uhhhhhh, no clue what you are talking about. Link?

>>15699737
Now is probably the worst time to switch, it was more than justified in the past and it may still be a good idea in the future but right now is when it could go either way and swapping will still fuck with you for a short while.

The worst time to switch doesn't mean its a bad time though.

>>15699737
Basically this >>15699784
I'd play both until the situation with nutaku clears up, but I have a hunch you'll stick with dmm version in the end

>>15699784>>15699756

I guess I'll just run both accounts for awhile and see what happens. It's not like I'll miss out on farm time because of the charisma limit...

That said, english is a big plus. Having the game just 75% as good as the jp one is probably enough to stay.

>>15699808
I mean... you can't even read the H-scenes....

HOW CAN YOU JACK OFF UNDER THESE CONDITIONS?!?!?

>>15699808
You can read event translations at the ulmf dmm thread
He's not doing the affection scenes though, so there's that. And the dude also has mood swings so who knows when he'll quit translating, but he's been at it for a while now

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My current team.

I have a bunch of silver fairies lying around, any tips on which units I should pump and CC first?

>>15700009
Bashira and Iris

Do people sell here sometimes nutaku accounts?

>>15699784
Why is now the worst time to start in DMM and not in the past or even in the future?

>>15700009
Out of the silvers Leanne and Pallis, they should last you the longest.

>>15700030
Interesting. Pirate Princess Amelia has been doing most of my archer legwork so far, cced Bashira is better?

Also, should I be leveling up a bronze unit to use with the fairies, or just sticking one in raw?

>>15700062
Save fairies for platinum exp armors, feed bronze fodder as is

>>15700062
Anelia is probably better than Bashira by a tiny bit now thanks to all the pirate buffs. Best to level them both equally.

>>15699808
If your problem is with charisma, then you will have the same problem in DMM, Aigis is not a game to be played constantly, at around lvl 180 you have around 400 charisma an it will be gone in less than 10 minutes a day, the earlier lvls are the only ones where you can play constantly because lvl up refills.

>>15700009
Bashira, Iris, Leeanne, and Katie, in no particular order.

Having so many units without offensive cooldowns is hurting me badly in these subjugations, I can't even manage 400 with Miruno doing Miruno things at that final ~20 unit clusterfuck.

>>15700052
Because the nutaku version is an unknown quantity right now, in the past it was clear and in the future it will also be clear, right now we can't guage what will happen, but soon it will be clear and people can make a better decision.

>>15700119
Nutaku is almost certain to be inferior to DMM for any game. It's a question of whether the EN version will be just slightly worse (like FKG, which has a good event schedule but no flower stone campaigns, leading to Nutaku players getting a lot of new content but only around a third of the flower stones DMM players get) or unplayably bad (like the current EN Aigis, which is self-explanatory).

It's always a good idea to switch to DMM, especially if you haven't invested much into Nutaku, which this guy hasn't (level 20 is pretty much nothing). I'd strongly recommend switching to DMM and grinding the current event, which rewards a black samurai.

Samurai aren't very strong, but they were buffed recently and Hibari is an on-the-spot duelist that can double her attack and defense immediately after deployment, so that's something.

>>15700219
You're forgetting the main reason to play on nutaku is having the game in english, having the game in japanese is often a dealbreaker.

It doesn't matter one bit if its always a good idea, its still the worst time to switch which is what is most important to those that want the game in english.

>>15700331
what's the point in having it in english when there's no new content to need to read

>>15700403
Or when the new content isn't even legible English like the last two events.

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>roll this from crystal fragments

The event isn't over and I already got the best "samurai."

I guess my luck for the next 6 months is gone.

>>15700403
>>15700420
If there's a problem people want to deal with it themselves, they don't want to post it on here and hope they get a translation. Spending money on a foreign website may not go down well when they can't even check they're not fucking up.

What's the average event item per stamina ratio for 90/12 maps? They mostly seem to have identical rates between events, and I want to see how many SCs I have to allot for the next week.

I may be able to go for 1300, but it seems unlikely.

>>15700690
Around 1,9 to 2,0 /stam

>>15700714
I see, thanks.

It does seem somewhat risky then, since I'll only have 27 SC for the event and the first half wasn't very lucky (220 amulets now, will hit around 260 at the end of the week). Still, it's worth trying, since that extra 5 SC would've landed me another Stella anyway.

>>15699817
Hey yo, the english translations got extra 'fucks' words thrown in for free and every moan is translated to 'arghhh'

>>15701095
Poor Edelweiss, she transformed from a very refined lady to a hardened sailor.

>>15701095
I'm not sure of any of the other recent scenes, but Daisy's h-scene is both cute and lewd as fuck.

>>15701152
Katie had me cumming soft sensuous buckets

havent got shit from this warmaiden event, seems to just be a waste of time for lowbies.

5 runs of warmaidens challenge, 5 runs of knights arrows, all I have to show for it are bronze archers and no valk

>>15701738
>5 runs of warmaidens challenge, 5 runs of knights arrows, all I have to show for it are bronze archers and no valk
Well no shit, those two have low drop rates.
Hell, Knights' Arrows doesn't even drop the event Valk(Just Elaine).

>>15699737
There's going to be all-ages version anniversary soon, with lots of giveaways and possibly Happy or Time fairy. Perfect time to start.
Also, with introduction of daily revivals, you get billion of free SC, silvers and plats for quite a while, so start on DMM is much faster and softer than Nutaku, plus you may not worry about events as much.

>>15701871
What day is the anniversary of all ages?

Cool, Nutaku's FKG is broken!

>>15701871
Do those freebies carry over to the r18 version, since they're the same?

>>15701912
Yes, the only version that don't share something is the IOS version and it's because they use different crystals.

>>15701871
Wait, to english is getting daily revivals?

>>15702385
What? I'm speaking about DMM version.

>>15702385
>english getting anything

Anon please. I have no bloody clue why we skipped Eliza's event of all things, I guess it's because we skipped Anna?

>>15697127
Is the game coming out tomorrow?

I never ended up getting the new SSRs, but I'm happy with Cryska

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How's your samurai coming along?

>>15700062
Late, but the reason I recommended Bashira over Anelia is because Archers are much better for the Crystal Keeper daily thanks to Anti-Air bonus + attack speed. And the sooner you can farm high level Crystal Keeper the better.

>>15702637
Cool. Any more tips on what to aim for first in terms of farming myself up quickly? Right now I'm just doing challenge quests for gold fairies to level katie/iris and farming the hardest commission I can.

>>15702728
Try to reach the Desert story maps as soon as possible, there's a huge jump in XP gain compared to the maps before them. Both in the XP value of the fodder units that drop, as well as Prince/Account XP.

>>15702637
And on a scale of 1-10 how fucked will I be if I combine mortimer with 3 golds fairies on katie, waiting out the xp climb is unbearable and thats a solid 2400xp... platinum armors are like 6% droprate at my level max

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>>15702618
I'm a pitiful guy aiming for a measly 250.

I used all my SC on rolling gacha and got nothing, so I can't do refills.

>>15702618
I have 340. I feel like I'm behind schedule.

>>15702774
Honestly that depends on a variety of factors; what units you have that are worth AWing/you plan to AW because cute, how many Silver Bandits you have, how many Silver Bandits can you still grab from Story Maps, any Plats you're aiming to roll from Gacha?. There's a reason "don't feed Silvers you fucking noob" is on literally every noob guide for Aigis, because a noob isn't able to accurately judge which silvers are safe to feed and which aren't.

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>>15702618
A little behind schedule. Usually second part has better drop rates, so I'm not going full on with SC spending yet.

>>15702930
Link to calculator?

>>15702942
http://zenith6.github.io/aigistools/sealing-talisman2-timer/

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>>15702618
Very unlucky with drop, even got 0 drop with AW thief

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>>15702618
Ayy yours is similar to mine

>>15702955
>Already halfway there
I'm not sure about that anon-kun

>>15702963
I spend SCs for that

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>>15702618
blew a couple SC's but nothing too big yet, mo cha refills.

I'll start snorting SC's like crack come the second half.

>>15702618
248 right now. Saving all SCs for next week in hopes of a 2 amulet/stamina rate, which will just barely let me hit 1300.

>>15702885
I thought crave was an iron unit and ate him. Oh god katie is never getting CC'd D:

>>15703233
Watch out for those samurai then.

>>15702603
Maintenance notes say that only slot coins machine will be released. Official game release date is still not decided.

>>15697085
And I got a Legend on pre gacha, so disappointed.

let's see if MUV LUV doesn't do that

>>15700524
is she a frog?

Brothel simulator launched too, if anyone bothered with its prereg gacha except me.
Its shitty taimanin asagi-style auto-traveling through stages + simple boss fights, but also got some rudimentary city manager where you can build stuff.

>>15704503
I would be interested if it was a modern day setting

Can anyone use the slot system on MUV LUV or is it bugged?

>>15705499
I think it's still down for maintenance so they can add the new coin gacha.

>>15705506
it's just that they didn't update the twitter but whatever, they never do.

>>15697327
>Ultra noobs freshly weened off Farmville et al style Facebook games
We're talking about japanese developers though. They have bokujo monotari series and I've rarely seen them having farmville clones.

There are two types of browser games they produce:
-'Let's make an autobattle card game with pretty pictures!'
-'Let's make a card game with pretty pictures but with a simple gameplay!'
For some reason DMM audience still often falls for the first game genre although their age is past gone.

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>>15701871
>There's going to be all-ages version anniversary soon, with lots of giveaways and possibly Happy or Time fairy.

I sure hope so. People have been saying "soon" for a few months now and I've been sitting on AW1 Aisha waiting.

>>15701918

iOS accounts are completely separate from PC/Android accounts, right? Absolutely no crossover? Or like a one-time sync or something, but you can't share the two?

>>15702618

Could be better.

>>15705696
They share the same account, but some units are unusable and grayed out because they don't have their censored iOS versions yet. And iOS uses a red SC which doesn't transfer, and can't use blue SCs.

>>15705816
So if I wanted to play the current event on mobile, I can log in with my normal DMM account on iOS, play with most of my units, and then come home and log in on PC with my progress intact?

>>15705830
Yes

How the hell are you supposed to get the 7 day login bonus on Nutaku's puzzle thing? The damn thing won't unlock.

>>15705851
Weird. That runs counter to everything I thought I knew. But it's good news. Thanks.

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>>15702618

>>15705830
Just remember the crystals, keep that always in mind, that is why it asks you if you are really sure to pick a SC from the box.

>>15706101
Yep. And I can assume that earning one for a 3* dumps immediately to your red crystal pool, so I should avoid those on mobile?

>>15704503
At this point I'm only waiting for demon's kitchen cause it's anything but a card collecting auto battler

>>15706461
There's not much to do beyond popping skills in kitchen either, everything is decided by initial placement.

>>15706115
Yes, but only in IOS, in android everything is completly shared.

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Spent all my slot coins.
Pretty bad luck as always, no SSR.

>>15706804
So...?

>>15705921
>>15705696
>>15702955
>>15702960
>>15702618
What is this event? Are Nutaku and DMM's events different?

>>15706843
Of course they're different, DMM is 1.5-2 years ahead of us. Why are you surprised?

>>15706843
> nutaku events
Ahahaha.

>>15703447
Do you know what the banner with Meiya is saying?

>>15706804
Did we get slot coins based off the prereg draws?

Probably should have kept doing them after I got my SSRs.

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>>15706804
You think your draws were bad?

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>>15707019
Yes, 1 draw = 1 coin.
>>15707001
What banner? Picrelated?
Its free SSR Meya for everyone who made at least 150 draws.

>>15707068
>tfw 136 draws

end my life

How do you get dmm aigis on your android?

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New quest and new map for hibari event were added

>>15707633
You download the DMM Games app and download the Aigis game app from there.

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>>15707738
Shit more maps.
Muh stamina
Muh SC
;__:

>>15707784
Is this your first week of playing aigis?
All collection/star trial events always have same amount of maps distributed in two batches, one per week.

>>15707800
First 2 weeks actually. I don't know the event comes in 2 batches.
pls no bully

I have a question for dmm aigis gacha.
If I were to use platinum+ ticket and crystal fragments, will they pull out units from a fixed pool or the current premium and pickup pools?

>>15708008
Ticket and crystal gacha use "all possible units" pool.

that bubble oni has a fuckload of health.

>>15708684
Kind of odd that Shuten Doji's oni generals are pretty much Fuuki, Suiki, Kinki and.... some lightning dude. Where's Ongyoki?

Maybe he exists but is such a sneaky git that we didn't get to fight him yet.

On DMM Aigis, was anyone able to take out the boss on the 12 stamina map?
Maybe I need more awakened healers.

>>15709668
Sennen war's vid on youtube

>>15709668
Just barrage him to death, don't try to tank.

>>15709699
>>15709691
I'm a bit weak in the ranged department, but I'll try.

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>>15709668
Yes. But I have a bit of an unfair advantage.

>>15709719
What's your setup like?

I just did a test to see how you'd fare facetanking with 4 healers, 1 max AW, 2 mid-aw, 1 max CC, and a warpriest max CC and on Prince it got close enough that I didn't feel like they could power through it and activated Iris's skill.

Something I did find out that could be useful to you is if you can keep AWPrince alive for the full duration of his skill, he'll do 80-90% with no other sources of damage. If you could manage that and have one or two high damage units as well, you could probably get him dead or very close.

>>15709771
AW Prince requires almost no healing when skill on, even 1 silver healer is enough.

>>15709785
There's a lot of bosses that will wreck his shit even through skill.

I wasn't paying attention to how much damage he was taking with his skill up though, especially with how many I had on him to see how hard it'd be to facetank with the skill down.

>>15709771
Unfortunately I don't have access to the AW Prince currently.
I attempted with Anya and a team of healers. Anya faired well while her skill was activated, but died not too long after it burned out.

>>15709817
Have black necromancer?
Use her on the top before he start moves

>>15709817
You really should get him. Like that was one of the first things I did when it was released. Grabbed the goddess buffs and 1*'d my way to him. It's well worth it.

If you have another decent tank that could survive for a lil bit with their skill up you could try leading with them, then swapping to Anya once they start getting low to make use of the black initial skill timer. Might buy you enough time for your ranged units.

>>15709852
Have her, but unleveled. Might get around to it, as I also have another Max Skill Up fairy.

>>15709865
Will try this.

Thanks to all the helpful advice.

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Mirno + alchemist burned through his hp in few seconds, lol.

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He should've been a girl

>>15710145
Trap is superior

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I just started and rolled this. Is she any good? Black rarities are the rarest right?

>>15710176
He should've wore a skirt then

>>15710244
She's arguably the strongest unit in the game

>>15709668
You need one of these "becomes a total combat monster for X seconds" units like AW Prince. I had awakened Shizuka a week before, and she wiped the floor with him.

He just drops a rainbow fairy and not amulets though, so you can safely ignore him.

>>15710244
>Is she any good?
to say she is good is an understatement

>>15710254
>arguably
It's as arguable as saying humans have hearts.

>>15701738
Do newbies even have a chance at getting Emilia?

>>15701738
Don't worry, you're only missing out on one of the shittiest and most worthless units in the game.

>>15710479
is chizuru any good?

whats the fastest way to level without plat armors?

>>15712776
Plat armours are 8k with fairys, farm units are 5k with fairys, after that its the best fodder you can get.

>>15712829
what do you mean farm units? like silvers?

>>15713168
Farm-type platinum event units, like the daily revivals we're all currently doing.

Oh wow, these foxes aren't kidding around
Had no problems up till this map, but got destroyed by the tiddy fox

>>15713170
I'm on nutaku :(

Imelia again when!!

>>15713186
Give it a few years

>>15713186
Then farm Emelia and combine her if you need the exp, Emelia herself is awful for almost everyone.

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I always filled the mage slot with Eterna but she lacks an offensive skill, and recently I feel the need to raise a second mage(like in the black knight subjugation or the current 12sta map). Plus, I'm about to SAW Towa, and it won't work for a Bishop
Here are my mages, who is worth raising? Or should I just max the silver one and wait for a better roll?

>>15711860
Yes

>>15713350
Either Mol or Mehlis. You need to Skill AW Mehlis for a good offensive skill though.

I'm about to quit Nutaku FKG just because they can't quit doing several maintenances per week to implement stupid bullshit instead of adding it all during the weekly update. Getting really tired of logging in and seeing sudden maintenance because they want to add a new gacha or something equally stupid.

>>15713350
I'm a fan of both Mehlis (SAW is a pretty good offensive skill) and Odette (IIRC 3rd highest attack of all mages, but no offensive skill). Go with either, I guess. I'd at least push both to CC as backup mages for maps you want a lot, or when you might want Odette's skill for a map.

>>15713808
>>15713408
>SAW Mehlis
>wait period after attack shortened [from 2s to 0.5s]
Oh wow, I wonder how fast that'll be under the influence of Towa's skill

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>>15714102
Honestly, the best part is that is just looks cool.

>>15714225
>that minuscule explosion range
>can't even 1shot goblins
I'm having second thoughts here, but I'll admit it looks cool

>>15714264
Keep in mind that it has the same range boost as her normal skill, but attacks a lot faster. Same duration, too.

>>15713350
Mehlis is arguably better than any other non-black mage.

>>15714264
The aoe is smaller but there's rarely any scenario that actually matters in because she pretty much triples her attack speed without losing any damage.

She can very easily out damage almost any other magic damage unit with it active.

the exceptions being broken units like ester.

>>15714521
>Mehlis is arguably better than any other non-black mage.
Hahahaha. Nope

Who drops the last drop on the 100-2 map? tits or loli?

>>15714542
The only one who could come close to Mehlis's dps is sasha, who attacks slower and doesn't have the 70% range boost Mehlis has in return for 159 more damage and a non-reduced aoe on skill.

Mol is not comparable because it's a single use skill. Strong as it may be, she's a purely anti-boss mage as she becomes next to useless after it's over.

>>15714592
nvm... i think it was neither. i got it anyway

>>15713350
I'd choose Mol. Personally, I was never a fan of range boosting skills.

Mol's skill has a huge multiplier, lasts long as fuck, and has a pretty short cooldown. I also prefer my Mol non-SAW'd.

What do you need anyway? I can see SAW Mehlis' use if you don't have single target non-physical dps like SAW Rikka or Metus. But if you need the AoE, then Mol should be the way to go.

Another 11roll on fkg, expect bronce and silver, got bronce and silver. I can at least pretend everything went as planned.

>>15715082
>What do you need anyway
I'm not even sure, honestly
I can just use Farune to substitute as a second aoe magic nuke in most maps. It works everywhere except subjugation maps.
Other than that, I want something that has a good synergy with Towa's SAW, I guess

At the moment I'm leaning towards Mol, because her design does things to my dick and she has higher base stats which is more useful for subjugation maps than a skill-nuke

>>15714611
The thing is she loses her aoe, and it's big letdown, see>>15714225, her aoe is next to nothing
There're shit load of single target dps unit already so her SAW bring nothing special to the table.

>>15713808
> several maintenances per week

Technically, it's every Friday at 12:30 UTC as well as the weekly Tuesday update. But I know what you mean about the Friday one throwing you off for something irrelevant. It's the usual bad assumption of "everyone looks at the discord chat right? So we can make game-wide announcements (like maintenance alerts) on there and everyone will magically get it right?"

>>15715235
This is why we have more than one mage or just don't use her skill when you need the AOE.

Her SAW gives her worth as a gold unit over other higher rarity units in the same class.

>>15715495
Didn't they do one on Monday this week, too? It was either Monday or Wednesday, because I tried to log in before I went to work around 5 AM Eastern and the game was in maintenance.

There are also plenty of instances where the game just goes down for them to add a gacha or make some small change to something at like 9:30 AM Eastern.

They just do it whenever they feel like it.

>>15715178
Farune works fine on subjugation maps, it's just hard to time her skill to be reliable. I use her for most of my max kill clears.

>>15715533
The 6* gacha, maybe? That's a once-a-month thing, from the current pace.

>>15715533
Any idea what knights' arrows emilia drop rate is? Still no drop about 10 runs later.

>>15716216
Yeah I'm just wasting my stamina here, fucking done with this shit event. absolute fucking waste

>>15716216
Going off older events, 2 sta map should be 5% for the plat.

>>15716216
She doesn't drop on Knight's Arrow. Only map 1, 4, and 5 this time. And as always, a 1% chance on map 1.

Maybe you should actually look at one of the many guides?

>>15716251
whats the chance on 4 and 5

>>15716259
Should be around 25-30% and 50%

>>15716261
5 stamina for 30% chance. still a joke.

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>>15716270
Dude just skip it shes shit anyways

Pic is my current team now. What do you guys think?

I'm getting katie and iris to cc asap, probably followed by bashira, but I'm not sure if I should be pumping my pirate princess or my soma... Soma is my only super cheap archer

Any other comments good too

>>15716309
Lol.
Bashira --> Iris --> Leanee ---> second archer/ healer/witch ---> Katie ---> anything else

>>15716333
you guys really have a hard on for bashira, jesus

>>15716333
>>15716454
all she does is poo damage to armor like shes pretending shes useful

>>15716465
>Using an archer against an high defense enemy

>>15716607
>needing to buff units against anything but high defense enemys

>>15716607
goblins overruning you bro?

>>15716309
I've used pirates instead of archers since very early on and I don't regret it. You can't go wrong with Anelia.

She and Rachel are both excellent units, and Sabrina gives -3 cost on deploy to them after AW, making them as cheap as -1 CR archers. Too bad you won't be getting her in a while, though.

Do you need to spend 200+ SC to get S-Legend stampcard next month? Is the S-Legend worth it over Legend?
I already spent 140 SC currently.

>>15717292
S-Legend requires 250 SC, anon.
Most people are satisfied with just Legend stampcard for that platinum ticket, because if you have enough SC to do S-Legend, why not save 100SC, get another 50SC (which shouldn't be too long) to do another Legend stampcard for that Platinum ticket?

Only reason you want an S-Legend is to get the cost reduce fairies.

>>15717292
250 for S-Legend. Not worth for free player, but if 100 SC worth of money is nothing to you, may as well go for S-Legend.

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>>15717316
>>15717317
>100 more SC
No thanks. The reason I spent a lot of SC is because I kept expanding the slot to house more silvers. With only 5 days left and only 500 seals, I'm sure gonna crack open a lot of SC to get perfect Hibari.

>>15717334
Just spend at least 10 more and you'll get a Platinum+ ticket next month. Post results. I got Mia from it.

>>15717343
>Post results
Of what? I'm gonna use my SC to mincost Hibari and if I somehow manage to accomplish with excess SC then I would do prem gacha.

>>15717368
Post results of the platinum ticket next month.

>>15717379
Does the plat ticket has expiration date? I would like to save some amount and use them when I'm thinking with my dick.

>>15717395
No expiration date, it'll stay in your gift box. Taking it out means it'll be used immediately.

Hibari art is so fucking terrible compared to pre-AW. I now regret spending SC on her.

Anyone have any advice for the current Nutaku FKG event's Phase 2 Stage 3? It doesn't seem to want to three star for me.

>>15718787
Is that the Hypericum event? 0-2-3, then pray.

Thankfully, you guys are only a couple events away from the Calla threshold, after which medal events are abolished and every event map is made trivial. You're still absolutely shafted on the free flower stone department though, DMM players got like 250 in this past month.

>>15718800
Not that Nutaku would ever compensate us on the same level, but we didn't have a ~2-day ded server period, so it's a little lopsided this month.

Supposedly Nameless on Discord mentioned something about improving gacha again or something. Lot of people throwing the term SOON and being vague as fuck. Maybe next week.

The current magic-boosted gacha doesn't seem to have particularly good rates though.

>>15718808
Wasn't the "no new versions for popularity contest winners" thing this month too? That warranted a good 120 stones as well, if not more.

Still, it's good if EN FKG can differentiate itself with higher gacha rates. What isn't good is that they suck at communicating what the changes they implemented are, people shouldn't have to rely on word of mouth to see whether the rates are higher for any particular gacha. As far as a normal player is concerned, every gacha has 6%/0.5% rates because that's what is written there.

Guys, are DMM android games also region locked? I could sign up just fine but I can't for the life of me get to download the app even with special dmm app.