General Nutaku and DMM Thread 119

DTM should be removed from the OP copy paste. Game ended.

More Aigis doujins on the Panda. Time for more Sybilla and Aisha.

>>15638738
>Sybilla
Why does everyone like her so much? She, along with Nanaly, gets most of doujins

Nutaku FKG has a 6-star step-up gacha incoming, whatever that is. Hopefully it'll make up for the shitty popularity poll gacha.

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>>15639056
Scratch that, this was posted. Nutaku gold only, of course.

>>15639069
Meh. I will never spend money on Nutaku

>>15639077
You shouldn't be spending ANY money on these types of games in the first place, DMM or otherwise. Shit, spend the money on onaholes or doujins or whatever the fuck, just not on oriental jewish money extractor simulators.

>>15639097
Haha, nice tried, shill-kun :^)
I spend money on DMM to directly support the dev, not greedy middleman jew likes Nutaku, fist me

>>15639133
Speaking on spending money, when will we be getting another DMM +50% bonus campaign? If it follows the last 2 years, it should be this month. I still have the points that I bought 2 years ago. Buying 10k points and get 5k free points is sweet.

>>15639069
>>15639097

FKG and Aigis are a little different in how the gacha should be seen:
1) Aigis gives you better rates, period.
2) Bad draws in AIgis can be used to power up more usefull units in the future, thus making every single draw kinda useful. Except if you draw the 100th silver bandit or something. And even these can be good exp fodder.
3) Most FKG draws are plain shit because the rates are so bad. 10x 11rolls without gold are not unheard of.
4) Bad draws in FKG stay useless because your Team is maxed at 20 girls and naturally once every spot is taken by golds+ then everything below gold is waste. And since upgrading uses dragons and Mayus instead of girls, what to do with these bronces and silvers? Ok Airship. Its not here yet, maybe never. So no.

In conclusion, the gacha in Aigis gives you mostly usefull stuff while FKG screws you over every way it can. Not spending money on both is ofc a valid/sane option.

Choginga gacha still not working for me. Did anyone have it working today?

>>15639199
1. Aigis only gives better rates on Blacks compared to Rainbows. And only if you're a f2p, because you can outright buy Rainbows on FKG.
2. Not really. Other than certain key Golds that are easy to get anyways, and come during Gold Rush too; most rolls that aren't Plat/Black aren't useful. Silvers aren't too bad early on especially for a class you need alot of as material, but that quickly gets tiring since you get Silvers easily anyways. After that, Golds are worth 20 RC eventually I guess, but only if you sell and not if you use as fodder. Meanwhile in FKG you can farm up currency for 2nd Affection, regardless of whether you sell the Bronze+ Units or feed them.
3. That applies to both FKG and Aigis.
4. Someone doesn't know about the Airship battles where you deploy 40 girls, and need to coordinate ~15-20+ of which are the same Type for maximum output. Not to mention Country Dailies.

>>15639069
Does that mean 300€ for the guaranteed 6? Yikes.

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Thank fucking god.

Now I just need Hanamomo.

>>15639228
Do you have adblock or anything blocking pop-ups? Other than that maybe check with a different browser.

>>15639263
DMM had very low-priced rolls in their step-up gacha. 3x10 rolls costed like 300 points (1 point = 1 yen, so ~3$).

Seems like Visa is still unsupported on my end so no rainbows this time either. I'm not sure if I feel angry or thankful.

>>15639263
It's not 6 x 11 rolls at 5000 Gold each. Generally the first one costs like 10 Gold, and it slowly scales up from there. The first few are also 1x roll.

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Holy shit these prices

>>15639473
Yeah, it's somehow more expensive than the previous guaranteed rainbow gacha.

That last line is a lie though, Daisy/Iris/Anthurium are in the pool.

>>15639298

>>15639473
60$ for guaranteed rainbow at nutaku / 50$ for guaranteed rainbow _you don't yet have_ on DMM.
Nutaku BTFO.

>>15639199
What are you talking about? FKG is without doubt the more generous game, since it regularly gives you much more paid currency than Aigis. 6%/0.5% rates don't matter when you can roll 11x every two weeks.

To wit, I was at 0 flower stones at the beginning of the current event, and I'm at 68 right now (93 in a few hours because we're getting 25 more stones today). It's not the game's fault that Nutaku is stingy with its campaigns.

And even Nutaku has a silver lining in these "rate up for base rarities" events, though I don't know if they did any after the slashing gacha.

>>15639516
It was $50 dollars for last months guaranteed rainbow on nutaku, this months guaranteed rainbow + gold costs $60.

What was last months 100% rainbow like on DMM?

Have no rainbows. I'll use that gold from the contest. I'll be happy with anyone other than Flowering Peach I guess.

Got Flowering Peach.

>>15639663
Rainbow campaigns come at a fixed price of 5000 DMM points (=~50$). The current bonus is a gold slot flower (in addition to a rainbow you haven't obtained before), some past campaigns also included the ability to pick the rainbow you want (during the last campaign, this was for anyone released up to Saffron), and the Christmas special gifted you a fixed gold (Kale) in addition to gold/rainbow slot flowers.

DMM also has a gold step up campaign that gives you 2 guaranteed golds for 490 DMM points.

>>15638808
Because they were in the initial batch of units, as well as Blacks. Just like how girls like Soma/Phyllis get tons more art than the Silvers that came out later, even more than the newer Plats/Blacks.

>>15639685
Are you some kinda pleb that hates lolis and/or pink hair?

>>15639745
I never see Berna or Despara art.

Black Iris needs doujins too.

>>15639785
I don't dislike lolis, I just prefer some curves that's all. Like Berna or Despara for example.

>>15639785
They get more art than the newer Blacks, but not as much as Nanaly and Sybilla. I'm actually surprised there are no scanned Black Iris doujins yet though, she's popular art-wise.

>>15639826
https://twitter.com/mirai_soft/status/761555370762391552

>FKG x Hanahime Absolute collab

What the ungodly fuck.

>>15639826
>>15640058
Sorry, posting from phone, didn't mean to quote.

>>15640058
What
How will they even do this? Serial codes? I'd love it if they did a patch that adds a FKG character to hanahime, no lie.

>>15640137
Probably special serial codes from buying the game, and Orchid as guest character.

>>15640137
The game is out at the end of this month, isn't it? Depending on what went on behind the scenes, Oncidium and co. could pop up even in the main game.

I guess we'll find out at the broadcast tomorrow. But yeah, it will probably involve a serial code.

>>15640308
Assuming it doesn't get delayed yet again, but still, hype.

New changes to character equipment coming this update: They now cannot be used as fusion food, have their dedicated slot and can be obtained in multiples, and some will have their names and stats adjusted.

At last, character earrings get to be useful on gacha girls instead of gathering dust in the equipment screen. Leave it to FKG devs to address every minutia of their game.

Also, new event looks to be another festival, this time in Lily Wood. Let's see if there will be a popularity contest, they've been promoting the second contest winners recently.

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How is everyone else fairing on Plat Armors after Bifrons? I pray that we get another amazing Fairy Map for Anniversary

>>15639502
Really? Shit, guess I'm doing it then. I was only not gonna do it because I want Daisy more than anything else.

>>15640671
Good luck, anon.

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I was using them nonstop ever since they got introduced and decided why not
Should I SAW them while I'm at it?

>>15640587
I have only 14 plat cans, but I'm sure our fairy counts are equal(zero)
They should let us combine 10 plat cans into a black one or something

Any reason to save Life crystals? Should I get the rainbow flower? Got 499 atm.

>>15640912
Nutaku or DMM? If Nutaku, go ahead.

If DMM, keep in mind that petals are bought with them too. I keep some spare in case a nice new evolution is introduced and I don't have the requisite petals from quests.

>>15640746
Only one of them has Skill AW. And yes you should.

>>15640746
Why would you not SAW Mirno?

A free x1.4 attack boost on her already high as hell angel stats allow her to melt everything.

I didn't think the Nutaku support form could be any more useless, but here we are.

http://pastebin.com/WW9TmjtS

>>15641392
Because with SAW she gets less uptime.

>>15641415
> probiller
You are talking with 3rd party people responsible for payment issues. They have no means of fixing nutaku site, and most likely don't even have contacts of appropriate tech guys.

>>15641434
I figured that out by my second reply.

You'll notice I asked that if my inquiry wasn't being directed to the right people from the form that they forward it to Nutaku and notify them that their support tool isn't working.

The response was to sell me a porn pass.

>>15641430
Less uptime? I don't know man. That added 5 second cooldown is barely noticeable for me.

>>15641467
>The response was to sell me a porn pass.

You know what they say, always be selling.

I got Miharu and Yuria in the idol wars prereg, which one should I keep?

>>15642325
Pick with your penis.

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God dammit, even with a drop boost and a thief I get nothing. Fucking spirits.

>>15643152
Thieves don't boost spirit drop rates.

>>15643152
I got 3 plats and a black in 2 runs of G
Better than your results I guess, but still shit
I think I'll stop doing this daily altogether, not until I get the bandit

>>15643152
Averaging about 1 AW spirit every three E runs with non AWed Cellia. This 1.5x drop rate event is treating me well.

>>15643806
There are no AW spirits dropping.

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>>15643811
Meant skillup spirits.

>>15643817
Who even needs those?
I have like 25 of those lying around, and I recently spammed 10+ into Towa
Now platinum/black spirits, now there's a real problem. I have a ton of platinum cans I can't use

What the hell does "AS: #" mean in Aigis?

>>15643846
Also interested in this
AS, WT, CT to be precise
I assume AS is skill duration, WT is time before you can use the skill after deploying, CT is cooldown before the next use
But I never understood the abbreviations

>>15643862
WT and CT are obvious, it's what you said. But AS cannot be the duration. For example, Anya's skill is described as:

Shining Sword Claíomh Solais (輝剣クラウ・ソラス): (40s; 2.0x attack; attacks all nearby enemies; AS: 74; WT: 5; CT: 55)

the AS isn't written down as 40s. I really can't tell what AS is suppose to mean.

>>15643836
You mean Rainbow Fairies? Why the fuck aren't you using them to max out your girls so you can Skill AW them?

>>15643846
>>15643862
>>15643875
AS is Attack speed

>>15643875
>Why the fuck aren't you using them to max out your girls so you can Skill AW them?
Lack of gold, orbs and AW fairies. I prefer to just awaken units instead, for now

>>15643900
This week seems kinda perfect for you to do that. A lot of units are not good enough if you don't skill awaken them or they just become even more broken when you do.

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>>15643875
it takes a lot of gold and orbs to skill awaken someone, and it's not always worth the cost.

There are units like Dina who go from 45s 1.9 to 40s 2.0 with ranged aoe.

then there are units like Liana that restores 40hp per 0.5 seconds to any unit in range over the duration of her normal skill.

Dina is the type you SAW instantly, Liana is the type you SAW at your leisure.

>>15643900
You could just pick the girls you're gonna SA and then max them out before you do all the other shit.
25 rainbow fairys may not even max one girl so you may as well use them, its not like holding onto them has any benefit while using them long before you SA could just help you beat a event.

>>15643938
And then there are units like Marr who you badly want to get 5/5 skill on, but her SAW is a upgrade but not worth the cost.

Give that boosted use on her 5th use or something and it would be a lot more useful than just boosting her first use.

>>15643938
Well, yeah. But I am talking about characters like Dina, Anya, Saria, Aisha, etc. that become godlike once Skill AW. I am just recommending to use this week into working on that stuff. At the moment I'm using this week to AW Miruno, Sedis, Faa, and level up any other girl that needs it.

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The eternal struggle
Are the Gold-dropping abilities any good? I remember the silver alchemist got it at lv55
Should I make a gold-farming team? I have Betty too

>>15644007
Not really. Also, you have to not only manually farm if you want to get any benefit, but the best maps for it are the really low level maps with really crappy XP fodder, so I hope you aren't planning to level anything if you want to farm Gold them.

>>15644007
Yes, they make a difference. I personally don't have one, but Noel at least makes a whole lot of difference when I do the golden armor map.

>>15644007
gold farming is a pain in the ass.

just awaken girls with +% gold gain and take them into gold armor daily. for greater effect activate a sc gold boost too.

it's the lazy way but you still make a lot.

>>15644028
>Noel
Oh man, I wish we'd get a revival already. I think I only started on dmm in october 2015, so I completely missed her original run and the revival too

>>15644036
>just awaken girls with +% gold gain
Does anyone aside from Noel have that?

>>15644007
Not really. Crystal is bottleneck

>>15644046
Mia

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>Both Canna and Nazuna running the FKG Comiket booth
This sure won't end well, waking up in an ice bath and without your kidneys is starting to look like the best case scenario with these two around. That said, anyone planning to hit their booth next week?

Also, do be reminded that the broadcast starts in less than a day. Premium users will get Wintersweet, Cuphea and a third, mystery knight that will probably be revealed a bit before the event.

Lastly, the girl on the upper right is unfamiliar, but looks a bit like Alstroemeria. Wonder if she's the soon-to-come 6* version of her.

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Who should I skill awaken next? Some of the abilities seem like a bit of a trade off and I don't really like that so I've been doing the ones that are a straight upgrade.

>>15645027
I vote Eterna, being able to heal and attack at the same time is amazing.

>>15645027
That black FT or Olivie

>>15644991
>Also, do be reminded that the broadcast starts in less than a day. Premium users will get Wintersweet, Cuphea and a third, mystery knight that will probably be revealed a bit before the event.

Registration for the codes is the usual 24ish hours from just before the start until a full day after the start, right?

Thing starts at 8 AM Eastern, and I don't intend to wake up early on a Sunday for it.

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>>15644991
Most likely, her hair style and costume resemble normal Alstroemeria a lot. Maybe we will get a clear preview during the boardcast.

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>>15645250
Yes, should be that. You can also timeshift it to watch it when you wake up, though 2ch will probably have everything relevant gathered in neat infographics by then.

I'm looking forward to the girls they will preview. We're very likely to get a better look at Alstroemeria, as >>15645253 said, and we may also get the new versions for Higanbana/Nadeshiko/Anemone. Other girls to look out for are Nigella, Clerodendrum, Artemisia (mentioned by Broom as fellow witches, so a witch-themed event is looking very likely at this point, possibly for Halloween), Kalmia (mentioned by Satsuki), Phlox (mentioned by Night Phlox) and Strelitzia (mentioned by Rosemary), and possibly Amacha, Enkianthus, Strobilanthes, Autumn Crocus and Yucca (whose names appear in the apprentice knight list of Sasayuki's prequel manga, there are also a few more names but I can't figure out who they are).

Also, looks like there's a Moutan Peony/Garden Peony cameo in that knight list page. Didn't notice that until now.

I started playing Kanpani on Nutaku and wanted to know how often there are events for the game, or if there are any at all.

>>15647208
Once every couple of months. No content updates in over half a year now either.

At this point the game is dead, it's still going strong on DMM though.

>>15647208
Play on DMM if you want constant updates, events and stuff to do. Play on Nataku if you want better drawing rate for characters, but the game is completely dead from the lack new content updates.

>>15647375
>>15647458
I'll go ahead and play on DMM then. I only was a couple of hours in, so I'm not losing anything by doing it.

Is it just me or is nutaku giving 500 errors?

>>15648634
An hour later I'm getting them too.

>>15648780
The game servers seem fine, it's the main server / login that seems screwed.

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FKG broadcast starting in 5 minutes, the third prize for premium users is revealed to be Lampranthus.

Join here: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv267215393

>>15649163
NZN is stalking in the background again.

>>15649163
Thanks for reminder, almost missed it.

>drawing lots from an actual flowerpot to determine the victim for drawing 11 bronzes
This is some next level despair here.

Free code for DMM FKG: M2RGBH75U9C3E5EY

Looks like the next event girl is Clematis.

After one year of nothing but Anemone, they're really going strong with the ranunculids now.

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Cute enough.

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> has very high defence

>>15649360
Less clothes equals more protection because the foe is distracted so much.

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Sasuga loli-devs.

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So new Anemone, then what happened to the rest of the winners?

New Lavender and Viola, loli knight devs in top form as usual.

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New lavender. Cute.

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>>15649377
Are they supposed to be a new versions or just their 2nd evolution form?

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So the mysterious new girl isn't Alstroemeria.

>>15649388
Oh yeah, forgot that 2nd evolutions exist.

>>15649374
They don't preview everyone, so the others may have their art ready as well. Looks like there's a miko event in the works, too, so we may get miko Anemone then.

Also, the girl next to her looks to be a Chinese lantern, and the booth girl is not Alstroemeria but a new knight that you can get with a serial code.

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Comiket-only

https://twitter.com/mirai_soft/status/762274814782377985

What on earth are they planning?

Who is this semen demon wearing Maher's outfit?

>>15649481
http://master.mirai-soft.net/hanahime/twitter.html

I am so fucking confused.

Then again, I just got out of bed, nothing makes sense right now.

>>15649481
>>15649493
Katakuri, apparently.

They confirmed that the FKG side will have a collaboration-associated gacha. She and other flower knights in Hanahime character cosplay may show up there, perhaps?

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>>15649516
>>15649522
Thanks.

Polina can just pass as a Flower Knight herself, desu.

Features announced:
- Improved kujira battle system
- Improved garden
- Ability growth
- Knight girls storage
- Improved char quests/equipment

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Another thing to look forward to during this Comiket, Camellia blanket illustrated by TAKTO himself.

>>15650491
I would fuck her.

Predictions for Nutaku Aigis tomorrow, place 'em.

There's still another week until Emilia's event, supposedly, but after this batch of balance changes, I suppose anything's possible. Except actually being as good as DMM.

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>>15651426
Highlight change, nothing else. Not even trolling.
Balance patches are out of the way and I don't see them implementing new quest missions after having "worked" last week. The intern must rest.

>>15651560
>all balance updates for the coming year implemented in one day
So now they're trying to turn Aigis into Kanpani?

>>15651570
We cannot comprehend DevTea's ways anon.

>>15651570
Not quite all, statwise yes but there are some important changes like CC and AW fodder unit changes. Rogues and archers are still in huge demand.

>>15651426
Tommorow break week will be annouced, next week will be Emilia's event. Only after that can we not guess what will happen. I predict a break week anyways, there may even be a final parting gift (hopefully not a gamebreaking bug) from dev tea on the 30th thats not a event.

One thing to note is after Emilia's event it'll be useless to expect patch notes on monday mornings, If nutaku takes control they'll likely switch up the days to suit them and most likely later in the day too.

>>15651764
I am the only one expecting Nutaku to not snatch control out of the devs for at least two more months? We might get another schedule at least from NutakuDev with a "still working on it", I guess.

>>15651777
No. I'm still believe it's just liar to buy them more time

>>15651777
Nope, thats a very reasonable expectation that could happen after what I expect to happen.
The very earliest it could happen is september, if that doesn't happen, I expect december.

A 2 month extension sounds weird, 3 month sounds more realistic, I doubt they can stop it in the middle.

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>>15651777

>>15652864
>not socially awkward devs
Censored incoming

>>15652864>>15652894
It was always terribly obvious that Robert and NutakuDev are just random normies who decided to leek off weeabo monies.
Don't you remember guys how they first launched bunch of real-live 3dpd porn actress games and removed them only when realized there's absolutely zero profit from them?

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Upcoming event characters for FKG.

Ume is a gold, thankfully. Time to unite Sakura with her wife.

-----------------------------------
Maintenance Details
-----------------------------------
Limited Time Event
- None

Other Changes
- Changed the Unit boosted in Premium Summon

Completely expected, yet that

>limited event:none

always cracks me up.

Bastards.

>>15653677
Yes, it's like if they want to be certain that people don't gets strange ideas.

FKG back up.

Funi~

>>15653677
I'm just waiting for the massive reveal that Nutaku wasn't able to move Aigis to their control and things will continue on as normal, bi-weekly events.
Naturally, no compensation will be handed out as they only had 1 content patch and 1 balance patch in the course of 3 months.

>>15654044
>>15654044
No, it will happen and then dev tea will be merged into the dmm team increasing productivity by 0.5x.

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Should I raise her? I have no better war priests

>>15653677
>-----------------------------------
>Maintenance Details
>-----------------------------------
>Limited Time Event
>- The Phalanx Marathon
>- A Dragon Hunting Rush
>- Party at the Fiery Oasis
>- Subjugate the Immortal Beast
>- Return of Return the field!

So many Events!

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The moment I so feared came. Now what do I do, jaypee?
I already have SSR char in first slot, so it would be safer bet to keep mecha, but my dick says mechas aren't fappable.

And FKG server exploded again.
This happens a lot more frequently than before.

>>15654281
Didn't you see their projected growth during broadcast? They have utterly high rate of new accounts and retaining of existing accounts.

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>>15654244
Went with mecha, and then rolled two more SSRs. Its trolling me.

>>15654301
I wonder how many of them are just rerolling accounts.
They should find a way to upgrade their server now, it starts to have problem everytime a new update rolls out.

FKG maintenance extended.
Come on dev, i just want to roll for Ume and be disappointed.

>>15654466
On the bright side, we might get 5 disappointment pebbles, which brings you closer to doing a second roll with no Ume.

>>15654466
I did a roll and have enough stones for a second (or possibly a third after apology stones), but I can't even see what I've gotten.

Still, you can be sure that you'll be well-compensated for the downtime.

>>15652864
Where was this posted?

>>15653094
Aren't they one and the same?

>>15654923
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Event_Missions#comm-56865

This maintenance is going to end some login streaks.

>>15655154
Their tenacity is admirable, though.

They've been at it for what, 14 hours straight now? I wouldn't be surprised if they were revamping something major on the fly.

>>15655154
There's no "login streaks" in FKG, only total logins.

>>15655186
> Their tenacity is admirable, though.

Eh, it's standard Japanese corporate mentality. There comes a point where tenacity is just inefficiency. It was 2:30am in Japan when they last posted an update. They should accept it won't get fixed until they get a short night's rest.

On a separate note, the calm reaction here is such a welcome contrast to the loose discipline elsewhere.

>>15655199
This makes me feel better. I've always been worried of potentially not having internet for a day and missing the free rainbow.

>>15654958
Thanks.

>>15655280
No sane devs would try to implement 365 days login streak for their games.

New FKG dev tweet. I get the impression they're staying up to let everyone know as soon as the network engineers fix load balancing and spin up new VMs. Nobody frets as much about downtime as the devs themselves.

>>15655349
I can definitely see that, they just posted another "we apologize for the extended maintenance and will inform you as soon as it ends" message. It's right about 5 AM in Japan now.

There's no team on DMM that is more devoted to their game than the FKG staff. Best of luck to them.

>>15655199
That's rather disappointing.

>>15655591
Lol. It's normal for any online game dev if something happened to server side, they get paid for it. No need to suck their cock here

>>15655626
Nothing happened to the server, people could still access the game. It just got overloaded because everyone tried to do so at once, they could just leave it alone and the problem would fix itself once the stress went down to a manageable level.

But this is DMM FKG, so you get an emergency maintenance for a permanent solution, with constant updates on the side. This happened to other games as well (think Gomenne Project) and they were far slower in addressing the issue, and I think a few Nutaku games had similar situations at launch, and they did jack shit about it.

>>15655626
Not really. This is not an international game.

>>15655670
Nutaku usually adds or upgrades servers within/after the first week or so of launch, if I'm remembering Osawari and FKG's launches right.

FKG's issue in particular was the surprise maintenances.

The FKG devs are doing *something*. Nazuna isn't wearing her summer clothes anymore.

>>15655280
Pfft, free rainbow. That's a good joke.

>>15654103
Do it. Her SAW is pretty amazing.

>>15655952
You retarded or what? The reward for a year's worth of log-ins is 6* Alstroemeria.

This has been announced months ago, and set to come sometime around the end of August.

>>15655952
http://flowerknightgirl.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1092.html

They announced it two months ago. Rainbow Alstroemeria for people who have logged in 350 days.

You can check it yourself on the official news if you want. 2016/06/22

Maintenance end scheduled at 8 AM JST, around 20 minutes from now.

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Worth all the wait, and then some.

...I was going for Ume, though.

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>>15656323
normally don't roll for rainbows but did it once for fun. First rainbow on either account.

Well, it crashed again.

>>15656360
At least I managed to take the stuff from my gift box this time.

>>15656360
Yep. RIP in pansies, FKG.

>>15656360
Well, at least this is a solo boss event, so you can complete it in 2-3 days. The most painful consequence of this extended maintenance is that they'll give you two dozen or so slashing/crushing dragons and your inventory will cry.

I hope they can get their things in order soon, though. The game downtime doesn't matter much, but the folks over at the FKG team really need some rest by now.

>>15656376
Speaking of gift box, looks like they're suspending the broadcast gift distribution in the meantime.

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>>15656360
747 in NZNs, sweet princess.

>next DMM Aigis event unit is a black
>it's a samurai

And I immediately don't give a shit.

>>15657007
Well they keep buffing Samurais, so there's a chance she's actually useable sometime in the future.

>>15656360
I went to sleep while it was down just to wake up to it being down.
How depressing.

>>15657007
Good thing samurai are one of these classes that don't really care about cost. -2 CR her and you'll be good to go even if she turns out to be great.

I want to mincost her, though, since I just awakened Shizuka, but I can't because I threw 200 stones to the demoness last month with no blacks to show for it.

>>15657007
She's cute as fuck, and most likely there will be map dropping plat fairies, so I'm farming the fuck out of it.

>>15657007
And judging by the event name, she'll be yokai-focused unit, so chances are her ability/skill/skill-awakening won't be good for anything else
Its strange they foreshadowed the oni princess during the gold rush, but went for yokai black instead.

I'm starting to feel like DMM just gave up on FKG.

>>15657737
Well, they keep posting "bringing more servers, trying to find and fix load issue" every two hours, so at least there's some clerk still caring.

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>100 gold roll

Fucking finally.

Three rainbows now.

>>15657007
I don't care about usefulness. She does thing to my dick and it's enough to go all out on her
Jesus christ, looks at her thigh highs stocking ...hnngg

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>want German Iris in Nutaku
>only have 80 gems
>guess I'll see what happens
>mfw

>>15658342
Looks like they changed her skill name, too.

Germany On Fire -> German Iris Fireball

Am I ever going to see my flower knights again?

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>>15658342

>>15658404
This can't be worse than Gomenne Project 4 days down time. At least the server managed to come back to life for a few minutes.

>>15657854
>>15658342
This is probably just anecdotal, but it feels like Nutaku FKG's gold/rainbow rate is up again. A few people in Discord have similar good pulls.

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>>15658562
Might be.

>>15658562
Well, got 85 Flower Gems, seems like a good chance to pull and fail miserably as usual.

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>>15658583
Well, seems like a likely possibility after all.

>>15655591
>There's no team on DMM that is more devoted to their game than the FKG staff
What is KanColle and why the devs had to stay 3 days in a row on a heavy snowstorm during xmas to fix an event patch while using twitter as a kind of meeting room for their relatives and users? Sorry guy, you are just a fanboy who likes to suck FKG team cocks a lot, sure they do good but this is business, they don't do it for charity or for free.

>>15658615
>my dad can beat up your dad

>>15657854
>>15658342
>>15658565
>>15658601
Guys stop, you just made me use 5 of my 35 FG to get a nice new Onicidium.

>>15658622
Good thing I don't have one.

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>>15658622
But would he do it for free? Or you will need to suck his cock and then praise him for that?

>>15658631
That edge

>>15658615
>You suck FKG dev cock!
>I know this because I suck KC dev cock!

>>15658615
> events only once in a blue moon
> girls die when killed
kAncoLLe faggots have no right to speak about quality of devs.

>>15658648
>>I know this because I suck KC dev cock!

Funny thing is that he stated in the same post that they do it for work and not for charity while the FKG fag likes to suck them thinking they do it to please him fro free.

>>15658615
>What is KanColle
Some awful game that has events every 3 months instead of them being constant like everything else on DMM?

>>15658659
>>15658665

Maybe that's their secret to always be the most relevant DMM tilte? making the player base wait a lot and then make the same players crash the servers when there is an event? I don't even like KC but one cannot deny that they get that much with so little, seems like a matter of quality vs quantity (then again I don't know how the events in that game works so dunno about the quality part).

>>15658685
Maps all run like early FKG maps. So RNG everywhere and you suffer and hate until you get lucky and finish.

>>15658685
Shit talking aside, what made Kancolle popular is the fact that you didn't need to pay anything to compete effectively, it was (and barring the marriage system, still is) one of the most free player-friendly games on DMM. The Fall 2013 event also contributed, since it was a brutal RNG grinder that, in combination with the regenerating gauge and permanent sinking mechanics, made the game infamous for its hideously cruel event maps. Fall E4 in particular could require 10+ hours of constant attrition to clear.

But it's still rank stupidity to claim that the FKG team doesn't care about its game or that they're only in it for the money. Leaving aside the mountains of paid currency that you get every week, there isn't a single system in the game that wasn't revamped in response to player feedback, these guys really take their user comfort seriously.

It's their job, yes, but they could just as easily have gone with the "abuse whales until they all leave, and then close the game" model that so many DMM games use. They don't, and that does warrant praise.

BOATFUCKERS

>>15658727
>and barring the marriage system, still is
You forgot the dock slots here.

>>15658727
>there isn't a single system in the game that wasn't revamped in response to player feedback

Isn't that what a good company do? keep listening to their players to keep improving the game and the product sells more? its the ideal win/win scenario to me, and in the end still business.

>>15657007
Fug I already have CC Momiji. Why dev.
At least I can put those black spirits and plat cans into good use.

>>15658736
That's right, my bad.. It wasn't a big issue back when I played, but that was a while ago.

>>15658760
There's another business model that involves announcing a new game, attracting whales with cute girls, making one p2w event after another until they all get fed up, closing the game with all the profit, and opening another three months later. That kind of strategy is far more common, to the point that browser/mobile game companies that actually invest into the long-term health of their game are few and far between. The average DMM game for example closes in a year or so, but new games pop up constantly to compensate.

Which is why it's admirable that FKG devs are paying great attention to the game's playability, even if risks short-term profit, instead of taking the standard "who cares, we'll make off with a wad of cash and be back with another game next month" attitude.

>>15658850
What dmm games have done this?
Legitimate question

>>15658659
OH boy, it's just the tip of the iceberg. Do you know how bug-infested was our last event in boatcollect? Someone has made a whole list and it had over 15 elements. They fucked up / didn't test every single novelty they introduced. Including drop lists. Sure, kc devs do a great thing with their F2P model since it's the closest thing (I've played at least) to a truly F2P, but sucking their cocks unconditionally is some kind of hardcore fanaticism.

>>15658893
Most games with ranking rewards, like Osawari and Hitsuji, are in that category.

Osawari is an especially big offender, I think its turning point was after they introduced 700k (?) EP rewards that you couldn't get even if you grinded the most effective event map 24/7 with your natural stamina. Other games like Tsukumohime and that one Monster Hunter spinoff also crashed hard when they pushed their luck on the paid elements (though the former survived by switching to a more user-friendly approach).

Seems like FKG server is online again.

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>>15658958
Did they just disable char quests for everyone?

Also, only 1 apology stone, they must be fucking kidding.

>>15659000
It's blocked for me too.

I managed to finally do the first quest in the new event, let's hope we're not back to emergency maintenance again.

>>15659000
They also halted the sending of gifts until they resolve the crisis.

That apology stone should be from before this downtime.

>>15659000
Stop being toxic, they're the best game dev in the world

And then it crashed, again.

There it goes again.
At least it lasted 30 minutes this time.

At least I got to see Viola's H-scene now.

I wanted the free 5* ticket, but oh well.

I literally tried to log into the game right before it went back into maintenance.

It looks like they disabled a bunch of stuff in the announcements tab, but damn, they couldn't even keep it open long enough for people to grab the daily login bonus before the rollover?

>>15659178
If you successfully managed to get in, you'll have the daily bonus even if it didn't show up.

>>15659207
what's the end date of 5* ticket?

I'm going to fuck Viola funi~

>>15659248
To get it? You have until the 19th, so there's plenty of time.

Besides, extensions are very possible after all these server updates, and the compensation afterwards is sure to be fit for a king as well. Another 5* ticket definitely wouldn't be out of question.

>>15659279
They already confirmed extension in tonight's "we thought its done" notice.

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This guy in Discord.

>>15659455
Is it for Kerria? I can sympathize.

Well, good for Nutaku I guess. To give credit where it's due, they are running EN FKG pretty decently.

>>15659481
Someone else spent 700 gems and counting for Kerria as well. And still doesn't have her.

For the amount I've spent myself, I should be glad I already got one of my favorite rainbows, even if it was in the overpriced step-up gacha.

>>15658850

Agreed FKG devs are amazing at customer service in an industry that's notorious for cashgrabbing. But I feel this is a case where the devs hit a problem beyond their expertise: network issues. It's a whole different sector to actual game programming, like the jump from Chemistry to Biology.

Given the bumpy start to the previous event too, I think this is 'technical debt' finally catching up to them, aka Scaling Issues. It's good in a sense - it means FKG is now so popular the server gets overloaded. They'll probably have to get some extra servers and learn how to do better load-balancing. That is, assuming they don't have all their infrastructure in the cloud where spinning up new VM servers is trivial.

I do wish they take it calmly and rest periodically.. But I know they'll instead beat themselves up until they headbutt through this problem.

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still waiting for DMM to be back up?

>>15659711

They've confirmed the second half of this event will be made easy to complete. The memorial login stamp card will get an extension so people who couldn't login won't miss out.

The FKG devs tried to roll back the new features in case that fixed the problem, but evidently that didn't help. There's a good chance they're now waiting for hardware to arrive and be set up, or they're doing some frantic learning of unfamiliar technologies to solve the load issue.

>>15659746
>they're doing some frantic learning of unfamiliar technologies to solve the load issue.
Lol. Fanboy at his finest

>>15659481
That whole thing with the popularity contest was a huge mess though

>>15659711
mfw a game that has been essentially down for going on 54 hours is 2nd place in both normal and R18 DMM rankings

brb gotta keep those boobs bouncing

>>15658944
>>15658850
>There's another business model that involves announcing a new game, attracting whales with cute girls, making one p2w event after another until they all get fed up, closing the game with all the profit, and opening another three months later. That kind of strategy is far more common, to the point that browser/mobile game companies that actually invest into the long-term health of their game are few and far between. The average DMM game for example closes in a year or so, but new games pop up constantly to compensate.

Quick check, i'm just getting into cancer known as Osawari. Should I drop it before my addiction is terminal since they are going to cash out in like half a year or whatever?

>>15660716
Absolutely. You will regret your time spent and, god forbid, your money spent into that bottomless chasm of despair and failed SS/HR tickets that yield no boosters.

Flee, as fast as your mouse clicking finger can.

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Haha, my second gacha black, she's pretty good, right?

My first was Liana.

>>15660993
Yes. Considering she gives regen when her skill is popped.

>>15660716
You should know that Osawari's stint on Nutaku is on a timer by default, since the game is effectively dead on DMM (you can still log in, curiously, but there have been no events for over 6 months now). They still have a fair number of events remaining to run, at least enough to last them until the end of the year, but after they've exhausted these, I don't think Nutaku has the willingness or the resources to continue on.

Osawari also has ranking events (with gacha-only boosters) and the running girl mechanic, which will make your life miserable if you aren't a paying player. On the plus side, though, they implemented a danger area system by which you can get past event girls, though it was too little and too late to save the game on DMM (I don't know if that's in Nutaku yet). Overall, it's not a bad game to spend an afternoon on, but it's also so blatantly greedy that I wouldn't really invest any time or money in it.

>>15661010
>after they've exhausted these, I don't think Nutaku has the willingness or the resources to continue on.

But it's one of their biggest money makers, and we all know Nutaku has a skilled team of artists on hand for Osawari.

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>>15661015
>Nutaku
>skilled team of artists

>>15661010
>>15661043
Osawari is still biggest money maker for Nutaku, tho. I doubt they will let their cash cow dying like that

>>15659671
I have no idea why anyone would still be running their own server infrastructure unless their primary value proposition is large scale storage/distribution. Running devops is basically just as expensive as your entire programming team.

>>15659671
Doesn't DMM handle serving content/payments?

>>15661079
No, DMM is just gate like nutaku. Look at packets, past DMM requests to go specific dev's servers, which are often Amazon cloud, but not limited to it.

FKG.

It's dead, right?

>>15661309
R.I.P.

>>15661309
Team probably went to sleep after 48+ hours of work. They'll just roll back to old code if they can't figure the problem, don't worry.

FKG is up

Character Quests and the page for the new event are still down for me. Looks like they still haven't been able to fix them but brought the game back up anyways.

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>>15661575
Post your guaranteed golds.

>>15661609
No guaranteed gold for me yet because missed one day.

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>>15661609

So, did they roll back whole patch entirely?
I see no new slots for char-specifc equipment.

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>>15661609

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>>15661609

>>15661072
> Running devops is basically just as expensive as your entire programming team.

Agreed. But this is Japan, where hard work is believed to be a substitute for savvy. I respect FKG devs for what they do with the technical/business know-how they have, not for the depth of that expertise.

Re. servers, actual game mechanics are processed by calls like http://web.flower-knight-girls.co.jp/api/v1/dungeon/saveEventStageSuccess
web.flower-knight-girls.co.jp. 2249 IN CNAME flower-582423644.ap-northeast-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
flower-582423644.ap-northeast-1.elb.amazonaws.com. 59 IN A 54.65.127.87
flower-582423644.ap-northeast-1.elb.amazonaws.com. 59 IN A 52.192.179.97

So no, they don't host own servers, its just amazon AWS like with most of other DMM games.

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I finally logged in, did the first event mission... and see a gargantuan flower knight on the top of the map.

She's really grown big, hasn't she?

>>15661609
I missed a day of login. I can't wait for the free gold.

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>>15661718
Wait a minute...

>>15661725
What a strange sprite. I love it.
Too bad I wouldn't be able to get her even if I tried 10 times (I could only do one 11 roll anyways.)

>>15661732
>>15661725
Yeah that's why I rolled for her >>15656344 and was happy I somehow got lucky and got her

I thought all the little and big sprites were hilarious

> FKG immediately goes top 1 once maintenance ended

DMM announced new web game: Doukyuusei series, famous surprise NTR which killed elf studio.

Feels like very weird choice. All art has to be redone due to age, game has very bad karma associated with it, and its just dating/moe game, there's no fighting or competition element.

>>15661825
But does it have NTR? Its gotten more popular nowadays, maybe they're aiming for that crowd

>>15661896
I wonder what the first incidence of NTR in a jp vn or game was.

>>15661825
>>15661896
If that's the game I'm thinking of, and I'm pretty sure it is, it wasn't even NTR.

It was just a dating sim where the main heroine had a boyfriend and they fucked. Literally a normal relationship except it wasn't with the mc until after they broke it off.

>>15661930
I didn't play it, but I recall people discussing it at /hgg/, it was a bit worse than that. I think the player didn't know that she was a non-virgin with a boyfriend until you started doing her route, and she also called her ex's name by accident in her h-scenes. I can see why purityfags otaku would be mad, but I guess its not really NTR per se

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Premium plat dark priest
I hope they're introducing AW for them as well, my Verdi is sitting on max level being completely useless

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>>15661609

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Missed one day so no gold ticket for me yet.

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>>15661609

>>15661939
>and she also called her ex's name by accident in her h-scenes. I can see why purityfags otaku would be mad,
You don't have to be a purityfag to be mad at that. Holy fuck, that's a bitch.

>>15661939
>called her ex's name by accident in her h-scenes
That's how you kill the mood.
Forever.

Am I the only one who can't summon boss on the current DMM FKG event ?

>>15662146
No, the mechanic was temporarily suspended.

Clearing the event will be trivial anyhow, not a big reason to worry. Server stability is the bigger concern now, for both the staff and the players.

>>15662179
I see, thx for the reply and good luck to the devs

Someone who can read moon, elaborate on this.

http://mirai-soft.net/hanahime/collabo.html

Collab page got updated. I see new equips, but who's this Nightmare (or Night Maher) girl?

>>15662346
If I got my moons right, the collaboration is two-parts. The first one, is that the new girl, designed by the artist of HanaHime, is a new unit that will be added to the Gacha on the 8/29.

The second part is that there will be a serial code in the packaging of HanaHime that will give you four new equipment in FKG.

>>15662346
>>15662400
Doesn't say much about who exactly she is, I think.

Illustrated by Kannagi Rei and set to join FKG as a collaboration character, represents katakuri (as in the edible lily), type is slashing, belongs to the lily family and resides in Lily Wood, flower meanings are "first love", "jealousy", "enduring loneliness", joins the gacha at the end of the month. Anything I missed?

>>15661825
Not surprised, was expecting them to appear when Mink showed up with their DMM game.

Kind of disappointed they didn't go with the Lime Iro or the Kisaku series. I think those are much more fun. Or they should just straight go for the Datsuijan kind of game, I loved those a lot. Characters bickering and threatening each other during the mahjong game are one of the best thing of the game.

>>15662400
>>15662423
Sounds neat.

I wish you anons luck in obtaining her, since I'm interested to learn more once she's out.

>>15662462
Kisaku as web-game could be fun.

But then again, they made Saishuu Chikan Densha game and it turned to be utter crap while originals were decent for chikan nukige and 3rd one is even considered very good game overall.

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>>15661609
My 3rd copy of Fir, oof.

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Suddenly, 120 flower gems for server down time.

>>15663073
Jesus.

Gonna roll and see what wonderful disappointment comes from this.

>>15663073
MUH DICK

>>15663073
What? I didn't get it

>>15663088
I got mine after reloading.

>>15662608
Yeah, good standalone game companies can still mess up when it comes to browser/mobile games. Alicesoft's Toushin Toshi spinoff is also in dire straits now, despite coming out a few months ago.

>>15663073
Well, that is to be expected. FKG devs best devs.

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2 Dogwood, but no Ume.

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>>15663073
I've been baited.

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Well, I was rolling for Viola, but this works.

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>>15663114
And somehow it only got worse.

>>15663114
>>15663125
FKG suffers from wonky RNG like many other gacha games, so if your rolls are bad, it might be better to wait a bit before going at it again.

Though that may just be paranoia speaking.

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2 stabbies wasn't exactly the result I'd expect from the slash gacha, but that's alright, I'm sure I'll score a Dianthus/Nadeshiko any day now. She's just around the corner. Yep.

Still, Laurentia is a cutie.

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>>15663073
Thanks, DMM-sama

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Only 1 gold, she is the one i want the most atleast.

>>15663116
Fuck you.

>>15663134
>I'm sure I'll score a Dianthus/Nadeshiko any day now
You may want to wait for the miko event, where we may see a gold version of her.

I'll be holding out of Mimosa, though, since Cineraria revival is coming soon. Not like I'll get her after rolling Serissa and the new Viola in rapid succession, but Rosemary is very cute too.

Also, we had what, 8 rainbows in this thread? Now this is clearly a record.

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Rolled for Ume. Got: Saboten waifu version, Heza, Sumire, Ichou, Tsubaki (waifu, dupe) and pic related.

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Glad i got Ume

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My first roll was just silver and bronze units, but the second roll made up for it.

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Man, they went all the way with apology stuff, mercilessly raping my storage.

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More compensation gifts were sent, enjoy seeing your storage dying a horrible death.

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Got my ticket day later. I don't remember this flower, when was she added?

>>15663714
She's Karasuuri/Snake Gourd, added during the Russelia event alongside Aster and Saffron. Notable as the only girl who had her English name misspelled in the banner announcements

>>15663697
It speaks volumes about a company that the biggest complaint about them is that they give you too much stuff.

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>>15663714
Months ago, during this girl's event.

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Thanks RNG!

>>15663728
I really hope the knight girls storage would solve this problem, as it's getting far worse with the new items for 2nd evolution.

>>15663774
When Aigis' tin can/fairy storage came out, I was wondering whether FKG would follow suit as well. That's probably the path they will take with the knight storage.

They know a good feature when they see one, like their Granblue-style "pay 5000 DMM points to choose a girl" campaigns.

>>15663774
>knight girls storage
What's that?

>>15663813
One of the new features they announced during the last boardcast, but we don't really have any info about how it will work.

>>15662123
dawww

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I got three of these tickets right? I could only use one in the gacha menu

>>15664064
oh neverrmind, looking at the gift history, there was only one given
why did I see it thrice?

>>15664064
You can only put 20 items in your inventory at a time.

The boss summon mechanic for the FKG event is working again

>>15663106
Toushin Toshi is ending service.

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>>15661609

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>>15661609

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1 Gold

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>>15661609

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Do you think doubles of the same girl is better than two different ones?

>>15666151
Depends on game mechanic. If they have limit-break-with-dupe, it may be worth to have one extra, otherwise its better to have different one.

should I SAW Cloris? Double range sounds pretty good, but that WT and CT are huge

>Aigis event is the Great Youkai War
That was a nice movie, and all but confirms an appearance by Nurarihyon.

Too bad I can't mincost the event character, but I'll have around 16-20 SC by the event's end, so I hope that's enough for -4 CR.

>>15666471
I've blown all my crystals on lewd item daily, since I had too many good units sitting at 0% affection for a while now
I hope the samurai isn't suddenly very good so I don't regret not saving up for her

>>15666489
There's little difference between a -2 samurai and a -5 samurai, so you'll be fine.

At least, that's what I keep telling myself.

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Did she rike it?

>>15666294
I'll have to double check what the mechanics are for that game, as it isn't obviously clear (at least to me.)
Thanks.

Lv 60 dmm aigis player here.
I've just max Katie affection and unlock 2 scenes but there's no H-scenes in there. Do I need to no something else?

>>15666674
You're obviously playing in all-ages mode. Switch to R-18 then watch again.

>>15666674
you're playing on dmm.com, the all ages version
What you want is dmm.co.jp, the adult one
Don't worry, the accounts are shared

>>15666680
>>15666685
I see. I expected that is the case.
Thanks.

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>tfw just enough stamina to get five 100 dragons

Feels good.

So Aigis went into maintenance last night as best as I can tell. Where uhh... Where is the event?

>>15667104
Aigis maintenance isn't today. It's tomorrow as stated below.

>>15667111
Oh. 10 AM on the 12th. Okay. Thanks.

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I hate it when a gold rush is followed by a break and then by an item farm
I always get bored by item farms, but if the two weeks before weren't very exciting, its even worse