Rhythm Games thread PIU A edition

I can't wait for this to start to see everyone compete to be 2nd place in the WPFefemzswinslol tournament

What the whole "Only One ______" meme about I see so much all over IIDX?

>>15580309
Superstar Mitsuru.

>>15580305
>WPFefemzwinslol

Isn't that what the DDR section of the KAC is called?

>>15580324
Who says we can't have it twice a year?

Thinking of either getting a PS2 IIDX controller and hooking it up via an adapter, or just buying a cheap anti ghosting keyboard...

>>15580420
cool.

Why does this thread need to exist

>>15580587
Why not?

>>15580587
because the last one died.

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>All those Mexico 7-0s in chat
Nice choreography won't save your ass if you disregard the chart and end with a C

>>15580193

lewd

>>15580587
our games are too niche for /v/ or /vg/ and every place to discuss them is dead as hell

>>15580193
what kind of sandwich?

and can you tell her to draw me the Near&Noah PUR card?

feelio when no 5 panel game with good music like ddr

>>15580810
there are no good 5 panel games

ddr, itg, and technomotion are the only good arrow-stomping games

>>15580810

Neon Fm

>>15580708
That's not lewd at all that's cute as fuck.

Please do not sexualize the Rasis.

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>tfw no one to watch fireworks with

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>O2Jam collaboration
That hot garbage still exists?

Well Fefemz lost because he actually tried to time the fucking retarded rolls on Rock the House D22 instead of good mash it.

Great tourney Andamiro

>>15581055
FEFEMZ won in my heart.

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>tfw Rock the House D22 is so fucking terrible it made the best player in the game quit

>>15581111
meme songs generate meme answers
aalso nice quads. checked from peru.

>>15578582
Insane BMS is a waste of time, genoside is a collection of everything worth playing from it.
If you're using LR2 as a replacement for IIDX, switch over ASAP, but if there's no other choice, stick to genoside and IIDX conversions.
I found the LR2 ladder to be a bit easier than the IIDX difficulty scale, and a lot more boring.

>>15580273
PIU have good music now?

>>15580420
Stop smoking weed and make your own controller.

>>15581787
Yeah, I'm just waiting until the next free leech period for AC data

>>15582065
How do.

>>15582045
Maybe 10% or so of the whole playlist.

Is there any new info about Nostalgia yet? I'm not sure how disappointed I need to be about it.

>there are 15 songs in mystery line for a total of 45 charts
>my friend who unlocked them all said he only got a silver tran medal

Does this mean more phases in the future?

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Grace is cute, CUTE!

why has this thread not been renamed IIDX general yet?

>>15582441
Because we can talk about other games if we want, dumb.

>>15582471
I've been trying to play the my chemical romance pack from Osu! for a while, but I'm stuck on famous last words, does anybody have some advice for me?

>>15582512
have you tried installing LR2

>>15582512
Reconsider your choice of game

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Would I be considered a faggot if I built a DP controller like this?

>>15582864
enjoy playing AC and failing miserably

>>15582512
Give up.
Osu is a game purely for casuals. Only a fool will attempt to actually achieve goals in that game.

>>15582864
you can try~

but if you were to show me your controller i'd not play on it and call you a faggot

>>15582864
Yes

>>15582864
It's not that you'd be considered a faggot, it's that you're butchering the original difficulty of IIDX DP

>>15582890
>>15582889
>>15582886
>>15582871

I just don't have the desktop real estate. Only other option beside buying an actual cab is building one and having a dedicated bemani PC for it. And I'd still have trouble finding room for that.

>>15582942
Don't put it on your desktop. You can connect a separate monitor to your PC and have your controller on a stand in front of that monitor somewhere else.

>>15582942
What I do is put the controller on a stool and move up my monitor where is right next to my face.

I've stopped moving the monitor due to laziness. Still works.

what do i have to do to get corin's cummies

>>15582145
i saw a photo of a new, more kbm-style controller it has on bemanistyle twitter

>>15582871
>Giving a shit about AC when it's only available at select parts of the world

>>15582864
You could do that but it looks like it would be uncomfortable, the sides are way too close and you'll need to squeeze your arms in.
It wouldn't make things easier, in fact it would probably be harder to play on than AC.

>>15583458

Didn't think of that. I am a wide motherfucker.

>>15583492
Post pics of your shoulders.

>>15580835
>technomotion

You have shit taste, anon.

Why do they have to give a fun catchy song a shitty meme chart?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL96N-5n2sU

>>15584000

I assume you're referring to the bullshit slowdowns?

Although those chords did get a bit memey at the end there.

>>15583988
What's wrong with Technomotion?

>>15584000
Possession is really one of the best bemani songs musically in recent memory. I finally passed it in DDR on difficult and those jumps destroyed me, thankfully the live version chart is less memey

>>15584015
>>15584017
I don't play DDR but the chart is much cooler there. I saw the guy jumping around like crazy and it really makes me wanna learn the game

>>15584043
the ddr chart is pretty much a cookie cutter boss song

there's fast-ish streaming, a couple of slowdowns that are tough to read

the most unique part is the jump jacks which are absolutely horrible unless you have a ton of stamina

>>15584000
Because it's a DDR crossover and they kept the speed changes from DDR.

>>15584061
>slowdowns that are tough to read

Can you actually "read" those bullshit speed changes? I thought they pretty much existed to make people fail so they have to pay more to try again.

>>15584061

Possession Expert looks really tame for a 17. Those jumps are no worse than Drop Out's

>>15584104
it's faster than drop out, and the jumpstreams last much longer

>>15584094
>I thought they pretty much existed to make people fail so they have to pay more to try again.
Yes.

>>15584094
how do you think people played ddr before 6th mix? they sucked it up and read the notes on 1x

it was awful and no one should ever have to go back, but it's a big part of ddr's difficulty in the harder charts

>>15584123

I'll give you they're longer by a few measures, but the speed is almost exactly the same.

Yeah Possession is 370, and Drop out 260, but Possession uses weird non consecutive 12ths that makes the math hard.

Going by ear, they are the same.

>>15584129
>it was awful and no one should ever have to go back
Eat shit. Anyone that can't read 1x Vivid 16ths is a huge baby.

>>15584182
yeah and using the bar is cheating

fuck outta here grandpa

>>15584193
The bar has always been there.

>>15584223
But charts weren't designed around players using it until much later.

>>15580305
>WPFefemzwinslol
>Fefemz gets 3rd place and gets BTFOd by a Bolivian and a Mexican.

>bemanipc goes down in december
>try playing on my main desktop but get random usb io errors which kill my scores, so i dont play for months
>move into new place, get setup going again
>manage to break a wall (NC vanessa [h], stoic [a], hc some other 10s ive been struggling with)
>still no progress on the sampling paradise [a]

9th dan never ;_;

>>15584104
>>15584123
I can do most of the song but my lack of stamina makes me fuck the whole thing up when i reach the last jump section.

>>15584501
Seriously, just practice Drop Out. Full sets of Drop Out

>>15584501
yeah me too i finally passed it yesterday at the arcade but i missed like the last 5 jumps because my legs wouldn"t move anymore

Don't.

>>15584520
Don't stop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5OWaBQzMBpM

>>15579958

To be honest, after thinking about it a bit, I'm 98% sure they are printed when they're generated.

It's easier to believe there are printers capable of printing glossy, full color, smudge proof cards in a few seconds than the idea every single card is in there waiting to be produced like a vending machine.

It's simple spacial reasoning.Those cards are what? 2x3 inches? There are hundreds of appeal cards. Can you image having to load hundreds of stacks of specific cards into that machine? Cards that you no doubt had to custom order and were shipped from Japan.

It's either that, or it uses industry standard blank cards with and printer than uses industry standard ink cartridges that can be replaced almost anywhere from local supply stores.

Does DP in DDR work the same way as IIDX? Player going nuts jumping from board to board?

I've seen 2 people playing together and changing plataforms and everything. Is that some kind of versus/co-op mode or japanese players doing crazy stuff?

>>15584655

>Player going nuts jumping from board to board?

I've not seen this happen. They just dedicate one hand to a sid and hope for the best by doing wacky techniques.

On DDR, though. They largely stay centered using both bars at the same time.

>>15584686
I didn't mean it literally, it's just that I find it impressive. I played shitty low level songs once and got extremely tired and that was from the time I was hitting the gym everyday.

That's probably because I was playing wrong jumping like a monkey instead of simply moving my legs but regardless, it's cool to see high level leg games.

>>15584655
Are you sure that was DDR and not Pump? Pump has charts for multiple players across both pads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzGoYygJwfc

>>15584628
It's a printer. It prints during the first song.

>>15584719
It was Mermaid Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZW3Lax9rlo

I assume it's japanese wackiness watching it again. "Hey bro go for the green notes and It'll take the red and blue"

>>15584741
That's a custom stepchart they made, an edit. It's in the title (Couple edit)

Couples/unison was a mode in the older DDR mixes where two players could play together across both pads

>>15584719
I hate pump.... but that looks like a lot of fun.

If only I had friends...

>>15584719
one of the only cool things about pump is the 5 player co-op charts

>>15584774
That sounds absurd holy shit.

>>15584762
imagine having friends to go to the arcade with

>>15584781
Having friends who don't have the same gaming tastes as you is actually worse because of all the wasted potential and fun you could be having.

>>15584781
How am I supposed to imagine that?
It's good to have an active imagination, but I think you're taking it too far.

>>15584780
each player has two arrows

i saw some mexican kids playing it once at the arcade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GjbE-GQ4Q

there are other neat co-op charts too like this 4 player one where you're supposed to basically run across the pad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygu2AtYPg5o

too bad DDR doesn't have this

>>15584810
The 4 player one looks kinda cool, the 5 player one looks boring as fuck. Everyone just has two buttons, what's the challenge?

>>15584833
>what's the challenge
that's not really the point, it's just fun and silly

it's like someone made a joke and they realized it

it's just neat

some of the 4 player charts are quite difficult though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVPTIVHS7hc

>>15584810

DDR has fucking stagnated. Even Andamiro is keeping up with the times better in Prime/Infinity, and they also fucking sell coin pusher games. At least it's not ITG though. ITG is a fucking cancer in the rhythm game community. Requires the physical adeptness of a parkinsons patient to play, shuffling back and forth on the center plate while they desperately cling to the bar to stay upright. PIU actually requires a modicum of physical athleticism to go along with the arrow stomping. Not to mention all the freestyle.

Plus, co-ops can get really gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpLWlyU2mxA

>>15580305
Also LOLFEFEMZGETTINGWIPEDBYANGEL

>>15584844

That's UCS tho. The only people who care about UCS are Andamiro, mexican step makers, and Legion players.

>>15584810
That 4 player chart is pretty cool. It's kinda awesome when all 4 of them are jumping on the board. And

>That one guy who flips his body while jumping across the board

I wish I had a group of skilled friends who are into rhythm games

>>15584854

You'd be surprised, anon. Even some of the remote regions of the US have random rhythm game players who are actually alright/good. GX cabs for PIU/Step F2/converting to ITG are cheap. Just gotta find a mall/movie theater/arcade whose ready to get rid of one, and swipe it up for some change. Friend got a rather old, unupdated one for ~$600 and just bought a Prime Kit to go in it. But really, he could have just tossed StepF2 in it for basically nothing.

>>15584737

How does it know you'll want one?

>>15584864
Because you pay an extra credit and select "generator start" when you play the game.

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>>15584848
>ITG is a fucking cancer in the rhythm game community. Requires the physical adeptness of a parkinsons patient to play, shuffling back and forth on the center plate while they desperately cling to the bar to stay upright.

>he can't handle 16th streams

>>15584848

>PIU actually requires a modicum of physical athleticism

You can get fucked if you don't think ITG is just as physically taxing as Pump.

It might not look impressive but it still takes more stamina and energy than full on sprinting.

I believe it's only second to Boxing/MMA in terms of cardiopulmonary strain.

I was playing Extreme at my local arcade the other day. A guy came up and said he used to play ITG a lot before our local machine got sold. He asked to play with me.

He asked me to pick songs without cross overs. I tried my best but most high level songs in that game have a few.

He walked away in the middle of the second song because "Fucking crossovers man"

>>15584899

I would have picked Can't Stop Fallin' in Love (Speedy MIx) out of spite. Was he an old fuck with a cane? Why the crossover hate?
Sounds like he was never any good.

>>15584883
>>15584889

I played ITG2 up until about 2-3 years ago. Quit because of the community. Couldn't play a single tournament without someone crying to organizers over a "bad switch" in the pad, and oh look, here comes a 15 minute delay while the organizers unscrew the brackets and test the switches. Yeah, cool, let me just lose my adrenaline boost while you get your ego/pride massaged over a miss in a drill that totally wasn't your fault. Seriously, if this happened once a tourney, I'd be fine. But it was getting to the point where people would call pad after every fucking song.

So, yes, I know about stamina drain. I know about adrenaline boosts. ITG is not second to boxing/MMA AT ALL. PIU isn't close either. But it's definitely way more taxing than ITG. D25's and D26's are closer to later insanity workouts than anything. And they keep pumping out harder and harder charts, is the thing. And fun ones, too. Unless ITG, which is not only stagnant, but just literally unfun. It's worse than professional melee, and that is full of literal no-fun autists.

Even competitive pump players love challenging fun charts. 4-Panel players are no-fun, all the time.
https://youtu.be/YubmM0edpCU?t=14

>>15584848
>really gay
I was expecting some Twister-style wrapping limbs around one another shenanigans.
There's nothing gay about that other than it being Vocaloid. That was amazing.

>>15584936
>rhythm game tournaments

now that's autism

>>15584944

I've seen players get REALLY gay with Follow Me Co-Op. Not, like, bad gay, like, funny gay. Cause it's not a particularly hard chart, it's a fun chart.

>ITG's community is the worst of all the dancing games

Why are americans always the worse? Why are asians more chill?

>>15584741
That guy on black usually plays in a pretty dance-ish way while not exactly freestyling.

He has some pretty cool footwork.

>>15584952

You don't even know the half of it. No small chunk of 4-panel (and even some 5-panel) players are furrys, too.

>>15584966

Cause kids in America got the special butterfly treatment.

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So we're in agreement that this is the most fun DDR chart ever, right?

>>15584797
I have friends who come with me to the arcade to play some DDR/PIU.

>>15584987
No, because this is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTBvWiiCDT4

>>15584889
the thing is you can't baby powder your way through PIU by sliding your feet.

>>15585017
playing that on 1x looks like a pain, but still looks like a REALLY fun chart.

You think a place that owns an ITG machine would be willing to sell one of their pads? Do the big arcade pads even separate? Wonder how much it would even cost.

The ITG pads are so much better than the arcade DDR ones. Those old Afterburner pads seemed like a home equivalent but they were ass from what I've read.

>>15585017
Never realized how impossible this chart looks on 1x. I never would've made it in the old days

>>15585027
It's in most of the versions, even Ace. But yeah, it's awesome. Not exhausting, fits perfectly to the music, but not boring either.

>>15585033
I hate reading on 1x but I actually think this song is one of the better ones for it because of how accurately the notes fit to what's happening in the song. But I'm more of a rhythmic player than a reaction-based player anyways, I like to read DDR/ITG at around 500 bpm.

I have heard that Naoki will do works for andamiro, omg

>>15585102
i hope not

besides isn't he with capcom working on cxb

My nihongo is too shit to really understand this tweet but why the fuck is Nostalgia 200yen per play? This better not be the new normal

https://twitter.com/chromebread/status/757404650458886144

>>15584936
The big problem with the ITG community is that after Roxor got sued and machine modding/hacking became commonplace and DDR Supernova being a disappointment, the community seemed to have steered in favor of "hardcore" charts almost out of spite for Supernova being mostly 7/8s on Heavy, despite the last arcade installment being over 3 years after Extreme and that literally every other Bemani game was becoming drastically more difficult. Konami kept trying to keep the bulk of the game casual friendly with slim pickens for the more avid playerbase because they wanted DDR to be more relaxed and appeal to a more casual audience. Their corners were that if DDR was flooded with lots of boss level songs, it would alienate/intimidate novice players. While DDR was deader than disco in the US, Supernova still managed to do decent enough to warrant a sequel that got an official release overseas while being successful enough in Japan to continue onwards.

Now let's more onto the ITG community. After Roxor was sued, the last few "pure" machine operators basically said "fuck it" and threw up a shitload of simfile packs. Many of the early ones had full chart sets. However, doubles was heavily neglected outside of a few chart makers. Over time, they started abandoning novice/easy/medium/hard charts and songs would only have one difficulty. Then we have prominent chart makers having a falling out due to not caring anymore, which is where you get MUH STAMINA faggots creeping in the scene, which has only escalated as time went on when even more content creators retired.

The community didn't give a single shit about holding onto the dwindling playerbase despite being given a game where you can stuff in literally THOUSANDS of songs to suit anyone's tastes and modify the UI that can keep the game looking fresh and new instead of a dinosaur relic. Instead, they choose the most lifeless boring UI, even on machines located at public arcades, and cram in dozens of 10+ minute-long songs that have the same copy-pasted stream patterns at 2XX BPM and cockwag over who can cheese the timing windows the hardest so they can boast about "world records" on charts that only three people (being generous here) have ever played.

>>15585110
Uhm, he could have more liberties there, I don't know much about it, but here's the notice if you want it =)
http://www.bemanistyle.com/2016/06/12/pump-it-up-prime-2-announced-at-japan-pump-it-up-fest-2016/

>>15585151

Couldn't be more fucking right. And all of that is the exact reason I abandoned that hot mess even after all those years.

>>15585184
the news, sorry, spanish xd

>>15581111
Divine Justice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLq7VhNpKEo

>>15585518
Quite the coincidence.

FEFEMZ is really good though, Ángel got quite lucky. He's still really good too.

>>15585029
they do separate but if you're going to buy a pad you might aswell buy the whole cab, i doubt the machine would stay operational if they had a single pad.

>>15585110
>still no crossxbeats ost

Capcom pls, the soundtrack is so good

>>15585636
Wow, the machine stops working if there's only one pad? That's dumb but I guess it makes sense if someone tried to pick doubles with one pad.

>>15585665
Yeah what i mean is that it'll probably run, but no arcade would be stupid enough to have a cabinet made for two players and only have one side of the controls.

>>15582876
what game should I play and how do I actually install this

>>15585965
stepf2

>>15585965
I assume you are playing osu!mania
Stepmania if you like 4k, Lunatic Rave if you like 7-8k

>tfw clearing new 14s left and right in SDVX

So this is the power of git gud...

>>15586272
go do 15s and you'll feel great (some are easier than some 14s)

Fucking rythm games

Will we ever seeing a challenging rythm game in the west that doesn't require shipping controllers and leeching from madagascarian pig-worshipping communities to download it?

>>15586624
>DDRA just launched in the US

>>15586624
I bet you live in the US, you have Round 1.

>>15586624
just play osu! ^_^

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>>15586638

A rhythm game played with hands that has playerbase in America and Europe, I meant

With a non-garbage songlist, impossible I guess

>>15586665
Stepmania exists.
>songlist
Literally whatever you want senpai

>>15582512
Git gud.

>>15586671
stepmania sux

t. stepmania simfile maker

>>15586658
osu! is too casual for me haha

>>15586665
if you don't want to buy an asc or go to an arcade, play stepmania or kb lr2.

>>15586658
^.^ :P

>>15586681
most likely I'll buy a sound voltex or a iidx controller but I'll still have to download the game data from sows and seed, fuck seeding

have hackers been able to modify the songlist of recent iidx versions? I think most players would be fine playing songs from RED onwards only

>>15586692
You can get enough rating for AC data in a month. Don't know about psun though, I'm still Thank you for your playing scrub.

>>15586665
the hamburger states have pop'n

>>15586699
>Don't know about psun though, I'm still Thank you for your playing scrub.

w-what?

Are notes/lasers during spinning in SDVX made purely to pump more money?

>>15586754
no, that's just the inconsistent difficulty ratings around 13-15 range

>>15586624
You can always get a real keyboard and git gud at it.

>>15586788
The USB standard limits keyboard presses to 6 simultaneous keys, which makes Dirty of Loudness impossible to pass.

Get a controller.

>>15586871
This isn't true though, just make sure to get a proper keyboard with anti-ghosting and n-key rollover so that each key press is registered individually.
Even on normal keyboards certain keys are not subject to the limit, like ctrl and alt.

>Sent fanart a few days ago
>No invite

Is it too early to give up hope and go back to driving for hours just to play IIDX

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Who is this semen demon and why is she the best appeal card?

>>15587245
You shouldn't complain this much if you can play on an actual arcade cabinet.

Reminder 99% of the world can't.

>>15587269
best appeal card is angry laser eye rasis though

>>15586787

Fucking incompetent nips. Only three iterations of a game and already the difficulties are wildly wrong.

Most Gravity Wars 14s are probably harder than preceding 15s.

Anyone have a guide on how to get started with PPD?

I think there needs to be a higher difficulty level in IIDX. I don't care what you call it, but it needs to be.

I say this not because it is too easy or anything, but because 1. there really isn't a shitload of songs to enjoy for those IIDX monsters and 2. A lot of the times the songs that are for them leave a vacuum of difficulty us regular fucks can't do anything with.

So songs that are 9, 10, or 11 on Another get a higher level. Every song gets a 12 chart. I know this would force a good number of songs to be goofy as shit, but I feel like that's part of the fun.

Songs that are actually 12s on Another either get a higher order 12 or that 12 moves up to the "Super Another" difficulty and a nice 10 or 11 takes its place, depending on how low the difficulty is for the Hyper chart. Basically, there shouldn't be a gap in difficulty greater than 2 or 3.

Now everyone of every skill level can play and enjoy any song.

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>>15587515
>Every song gets a 12 chart

wut

From reading this, it seems like you suck. So... get gud kudasai.

If people can play and enjoy any song, what's the point of getting better? ffs

osucks

>>15587665

>From reading this

I don't think you did.

>If people can play and enjoy any song, what's the point of getting better?

I don't know if you can comprehend this, but people can enjoy more than one thing about a game.

Based on your logic people like Dolce. should have stopped years ago.

>>15587273
I'm not really complaining a lot, but I'll rephrase my question: For those who have already gotten an invite, how long did you have to wait

>>15587691
About a week.

>>15587676
osu more like

nosu

>>15587691
Couple hours.

>>15586665
Literally none that isn't shit or based on AC games.
But i guess america has IIDX and SDVX at round 1

>>15587515
sounds stupid desu

most songs just aren't suited to a level 12 chart. forcing one on them is just dumb.

also good players play more for score than for the chart difficulty. maybe you should become a good player.

>>15587515
This has been said for a long time, and I think it's justifiable. If they don't bother, however, what they really should do is have a massive shift downward for everything. Leave the 2000+ note monsters at 12 and work down from there.

I have a small few 12s cleared, and I honestly wouldn't object to all of them being downgraded to 11s, based on how easy they are compared to other 12s, as well as how strong some 11s are and which 11s I can't yet pass.

Anecdotal and all, but if Nemesis H14 is a 10, then Ghost Revival A14 has no business being a 12.

Things are just as muddled at the bottom end of the scale too. 1-3 are mostly indistinguishable, and there's arguably no huge distinction in charts until you hit 6 or 7. A global downshift would give more significance to these ratings as well.

>>15588219

I'm just trying to put myself in their shoes. There are only 250ish 12s in all of IIDX minus the ones they've taken out over the years.

If you can effortlessly AAA most every 12 in the game, are you ever going to play a fucking 8 or 9 ever again? I know I wouldn't. I'd play it once, get the FC and 99% EX and call it done forever.

I can't image playing 3y3s for the 304th time to try and get 2 or 3 more points. Sounds horrible. I try not to play the same songs more than a couple times a week.

I'll only go back to play it when I'm good enough to get the higher grade on it. Repeat indefinitely until most things are AA'd or better.

can anyone tell me how to actually play games that are not osu? do I actually need to get an invite to a private tracker to try bemani? I don't think we have arcades with it here in Finland

Stepmania is free. You can get DDR packs or download original files.
LR2 is free, search online for a setup guide. There's IIDX packs available, and there's also original BMS files. It also supports 9k PMS for pop'n emulation.
Actual DDR and IIDX have to be done through everyone's favorite sekrit club private tracker, and require a bit more setup and won't save scores unless Thank You For Playing.

>>15588286
Quick google gives me this http://www.sugoi.fi/ , you can probably find more if you search.
You can play on PC stepmania, LR2 (iidx clone), K-shoot mania (Sound Voltex clone).

>>15587515
Too much work

>>15588286
tuus meidän ircciin, bemani.fi

>>15588286
There's also O2jam Online/China whatever if you like inverse brackets

>>15588286
So the easiest way to play IIDX and Sound Voltex... Is to play clones of them instead.

If you want to play IIDX, look into downloading LR2 (lunatic rave 2).

If you don't have a dedicated controller, you can play with keyboard pretty well, although depending on your keyboard you'll probably have ghosting problems.

Your best option to get songs is to download song packs since it is incredibly difficult to find single downloads;

in terms of packs, the genoside starter pack has a decently large collection of quality songs (not IIDX songs, but originals in the same vein). You should also be able to find Dan and nonstop courses for the pack.

There's also the Insane BMS pack, which is... Very large to say the least. I think it may have practically every LR2 original song. This includes the genoside pack, which is essentially a "greatest hits" abridged version of the insane pack. EXTRACT THE INSANE PACK UNDER KOREAN LOCALE IF YOU GET IT.

You can also get IIDX song packs, but you'll have a tough time finding them, let alone with videos included.

As for Sound Voltex, download K-Shoot Mania.

You can also play this one with keyboard, but using keys instead of analog dials for the lasers is pretty unwieldy.

This one actually has an in game song downloader included for songs submitted to the game's portal, but you can also download them manually as files.

You'll also have an easier time finding Sound Voltex song packs for K-shoot than IIDX song packs for LR2.

If you want to play the real deals, you can download the arcade HDD rips, if you are willing to appease the rhythm game Illumanti by drawing the mighty pig goddess Cindy. Alternatively find a friend who will invite you.

50g or 10g Omrons for the FP7?

>>15588685

50.

>>15588685
Depends on your springs.

Does anyone here play Guitar Hero?

>>15588727
used to when i was a wee lad

Can I pretend my Pop'n scores are like my IIDX EX percentage x1000 and assign a similar score?

So if I get 77,770 - 88,879 that'd be a AA, if I get 88.880+ that'd be a AAA etc.

So, would it be possible to just get a USB cable and hook up a Wii DJ hero turntable to my PC to use as an IIDX turntable?

>>15588913
umm dj hero only has 3 buttons

>>15588915
I think he's planning to put the thing next to his keyboard and just use it to scratch

>>15588266
I don't know about IIDX but I constantly play lower level songs in DDR despite breaking into 18s. Some people like taking breaks or playing songs they like. Hell you said it yourself that people like more than one thing; you don't have to be super focused AAA mode at all times.

I don't really know why you're trying to suggest things for a level you clearly are not at yet.

>>15588922
Yeah, that's essentially the plan.

>>15588913

I was actually looking into this just yesterday.

To use just the turntable by itself takes quite a bit of doing and knowhow.

However, you could probably use the whole thing for just the scratch by connecting it via bluetooth. Would be a pain in the dick to have to use batteries just for that though.

Here's the video I found while digging around for technical information about the encoder's wiring and whatnot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAuyReC1-G4

I feel doing what he did is a lot easier than I'm making it out to be, but it still intimidates me.

>>15588286
Sugoi in finland has IIDX.

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>>15587327
yep

>>15589078
i meant the other one, with tsumabuki looking scared

>>15588779
not quite, but sure. pop'n has larger timing windows than iidx iirc

but remember that anything Lapistoria and up has much easier scoring. (10:7:4 for cool great good versus the older 10:5:1 ratio)

How do I get popn pms? Or any pms for that matter

Anyone know of any arcades that have iidx or sound voltex in London or preferably South East England? I've given it a google but only received limited results

>>15589512
VEGA is in London and they have IIDX, not Sound Voltex tho

>>15589512
Use zenius i vanisher's website, there's a good map with filters

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>tfw all the 14s i've tried are either simplistic and easy or brain-meltingly difficult

nice rating system konami

>>15589685

What's the Purple Clear?

>>15589699
clear with hard gauge

>>15589699
like the other anon said, excessive rate/hard clear

>>15589579

>Nearest IRL IIDX is 3 hours away at Gotcha Gatchapon

Brutal. And I am not going anywhere near Chicago so fuck that Round1. Not that it was any nearer.

>>15589685
The main problem is that most of them are 14's from BOOTH or II, and they haven't been updated.

Shit from booth is basically buttons only with easy as fuck knobs and all the stuff from ii doesn't have the wacky off-the-screen knobs and screen shake.

They really need to bump down almost all the songs a few levels.

>>15588734
Aye. As did I.
Wish I could have spent all that time playing IIDX instead.

>>15589685
>>15589757

I can't tell with SDVX if it's trying to be cute with those 16s, or it's on a scale from 1 to 20 and there's a whole new world of crying and nightmares coming down the pipeline at some point.
To me SDVX will always be on a 1-15 scale and 16s are the "even further beyond" level. A joke. A gimmick. A bonus for those who got that far.

>>15589741
At least there is one near you, ungrateful fuck.
Kill yourself.

https://twitter.com/Sora12153128/status/755375432233390080/photo/1

>>15589802

>near you
>three hours away
>6 hours in a car
>to play games for a few hours

Eat shit. Unless you live in fucking Nunavut, I doubt there isn't shit just as "close" to you.

>>15589786
I'm pretty sure they're just giving themselves some overhead to avoid having to redo the entire scale due to difficulty creep, like they did with IIDX (and will probably have to do again to IIDX) and DDR.

Any NZ in this thread? Anyone know what happened to the machines at Yifans?

>>15589786
>A joke. A gimmick. A bonus for those who got that far.

Does Grace bullying you in this chart count as a 16?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rvS8rM5Fc

>>15589741
You should make the trip, I hear the people there are really cool.

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someone in china has done a review of the new konmai official 2dix controller

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>>15589883

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>>15589891
the body is a one piece aluminium extrudate....just wow

Reminder that SDVX now has a 17

>>15589883

So it has switches but no springs? How does that translate to feel? Like shit?

>>15589883
>>15589874
can you unscrew the button panel and twist it around to play 2p side

>>15589905
which one

>>15589948

Looks like you can't. Not enough slack in the wires to allow for it. Also with the way those switches are angled they'd never fit through the opening.

>>15589961
KONMAI QUALITY

>>15589961
lame. not like i was going to buy one anyways.

it does look really nice though.

>>15589848
glasses grace is qt

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>>15589948
yes

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>>15589952
it is a mystery

>>15589972

Neat. I was also going to say that while I didn't think you could do this, one could very easily throw their own switches, buttons, and long enough wires in there to make it capable to do this.

I doubt this comes with Sanwas but you could easily put them in later.

I really want this fucking thing. It is absolutely gorgeous.

Do they ship to gaijinland?

>>15589984
ooh

i can't wait to play the ADV chart and then go on youtube to watch someone better than me actually pass the 17

>>15589984

What even is this gibberish?

>>15589741

It's not a copula cab so no point desu
There's an anon that works on the machines there that browses these threads

>>15590103

I don't care. I'd drive a few hours to play Gold or some shit. I just want to play IIDX in an arcade.

I've had a handful of opportunities but only when I never played. I'll always regret that.

>>15590103
Hi that's me

Can't do Copula yet, will do when we can though. Plan on it in a few months.
We're going to fix the TTs this week so they aren't so heavy anymore so I guess that's some consolation?

>>15590135
Do you not have a controller or something, it's an experience but it's not incredibly special. Also playing with headphones is nice

>>15590138
>plan on having Copula when Sinobuz is out

the ride never ends

>>15590138

Are you Round1 or Gatchapon?

Have you ever disassembled the IIDX machine a little? I've always wanted to know what mechanism the machines use for the turntable.

Is it an optical encoder and a toothed gear like Dao controllers?

>>15590135
>play Gold or some shit

>tfw will never play the offically English translated Gold cab

>>15590001
It's how bugs in the SDVX chapters speak.

Also, pya

>>15590142
GGPon.

It's an optical encoder but not a toothed gear. The encoder wheel sits on a very heavy bearing that attaches to the TT. Between the TT and the platform is a teflon disk and a pad of felt.

>>15590160

So it's kinda like a scroll wheel on a mouse?

>>15590163
Exact same concept. The encoder wheel itself is a pretty hefty piece of sheet metal and the bearing has some weight to it. Thing can take some serious abuse and keep spinning fine.

>>15590141
Tbh the big thing was the PW/Pendual c&d. Kinda set a precedent for running newer mixes of IIDX off eamuse. It's more risky to run it, let alone obtain it anymore.

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>>15589989
no they dont ship outside japan

Where my stepmania spread players at

>>15591036
your mom plays spread

>>15591075
My mom is dead

>>15591084
did she die from aids?

>>15591036
i play stepmania with the buttons on arcade stick

>>15591036
askl reporting in

>>15591124
may i askl you out

>>15591036
What's the fun of playing it if you don't have a dance pad?

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>hands get sweaty
>too slippery to do those little horizontal lasers
>miss every one of them
>track crash
>mfw

>>15591154
what's wrong, friend?
>>15591162
my right hand gets sweaty while playing IIDX and just rolls straight off the turntable

>>15591169
That was how I AA failed Insane Techniques [a]

>>15591156
because jumpstreams are fun

I unironically give Konami money with Ipad Jubeat and Reflec Beat

>>15591162
>playing error code exh with excessive rate
>slide the laser over and start hitting the buttons
>didnt slide it far enough
>fail instantly

>>15591290
>give Konami money with Ipad Jubeat and Reflec Beat

at least it's not jukebeat

>>15591169
>not getting the odi reference
you're dead to me anon

>>15591629
whatis odi

>>15591633
oll dead inside

>>15591162
>play SDVX
>forget to wipe knobs
>fail all the lasers
>play IIDX
>forget that hands are literal sponges
>completely fail all scratches

I hate my life

>>15591970
>play DDR
>sweat like crazy
>slip on my own sweat
>bump my head against the bar
>try to keep myself up with the other foot but it stumbles on the edge of the platform
>fall badly on my hand
>go to hospital with a paralyzed neck, a sprained ankle and wrist, and a dislocated shoulder
>never play DDR again

>>15591970
>>15591162

Why do you sweaty Italians even try to play these games?

Just find something else to do.

>play stepmania
>get sweaty from all the hand streams
>finger slips on a keystroke
>suffer an actual stroke
>bump my head against the monitor
>try to steady myself with the other gand but it stumbles on the edge of my desk
>fall badly off my chair
>break my wrist
>have to relearn playing with only one hand

>play osu
>get sweaty from gyrating my hand
>finger slips off pen
>pen shoots up vertically and stabs me in the eye
>never play osu again

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>play SDVX
>whooshing through a knob chart
>fingers get sweaty after tweaking those slick knobs
>hand slips during a crossover
>accidentally karate chop knob
>banned from arcade
>never play SDVX again

>play reflec beat
>kill myself out of boredom

>Play Jubeat
>Realize it's not a meme game fuck you guys it's not

>play IIDX
>push buttons in time with the music, scratch when needed
>have an all round good time

>playing DM V8
>hands getting sweaty
>drumstick slips out of my hand
>thrown off balance picking it up
>hit bass pedal wrong and slice foot open
>stand up and stumble around in a panic
>run into PIU machine's bar and knock wind out of me
>staggering for help, trip on edge of SDVX machine
>slip and fall over onto card generator
>get impaled by it
>as I slip away into the darkness the last thing I hear is "sankyu fo purayingu"

What would be the ideal redone difficulty scale for IIDX? I think a 1-15 scale would be nice but 1-20 would give them a lot more room to work with.

Finally getting the hang of 11s, I have about 20 clears now, but the difference in difficulty between some 11s in insane. I can't imagine what 12s must be like. They last redid the difficulty at what....Happy Sky? I'd say we're due.

>>15592196
meem

reflec beat is also meem

>>15592234
20 gets towards pop'n tier difficulty.

15 would be great.

SDVX doesn't need more difficulties, they just need to compress 1-7 to 1-4, 7-11 to 4-7, 12-13 to 7-10, and everything else fills in 10-16.

As of now there is practically no meaningful difference for all levels below 12.

>>15592257
I was confused for a while, but then I noticed you were talking about sdvx, not iidx

>>15592287
sorry I wasn't very clear

for IIDX 15 is okay, 20 would space out the difficulties so much that it'd be pop'n tier

the rest of it is talking about difficulty scales for SDVX

>play SDVX
>stream it on twitch
>banned from illuminati
>never play SDVX again

>>15592234

I think all Bemani games should have the same difficulty scales. 1-20, where they are all more or less equal in terms of skill and challenge at the same level.

That way you can see that you can pass 14s on Pop'n, 15s on DDR, 16s on SDVX, and 12s on IIDX and know that your best at SDVX.

Yeah some games are harder than others but doing 20s on any would be considered mastery. That way everyone could know in an instant how good you are at a game, even if they know nothing about it. Almost like how Dans work.

>play pop'n
>slapping hamburgers to the music
>accidentally slap the big mac i was eating that i put next to the buttons because i'm american
>ketchup and mayo goes everywhere
>theres ketchup and mayo all over my hands and the machine
>the entire machine smells like ketchup and mayo now
>try to eat the machine
>get banned from arcade
>never play pop'n again

>>15592325
>i'm american
>doesn't know that big macs don't have ketchup or mayo

yuropoor detected

Holy shit, why does Pop'n Portable make me go full retard on anything with 7+ keys? Not even DJMax 8B had me fumbling this hard.
Fuck it, I'm going back to Taiko.

>>15592325

>big mac
>ketchup and mayo

nice try yuropoor

So there's this old Supernova machine on my mall I played once, and the songs were all set to beginner mode, which is too retarded to learn and have fun with.

Call me dumb but I couldn't figure out how to change difficulty. How do I do it? Pressed all the arrows and nothing changed and the only button I saw was the START button. There's a PIU machine right next to it, but I don't know any of the songs there and it seems harder to play.

>>15592534
double step up or down arrows IIRC.

I do not play DDR, so take that with a grain of salt.

Is Pop'n Portable babby Pop'n, or is it an accurate AC port?

Might try and get a minicon or something for it...

>>15592540
>double step

I see, thanks. Gonna try it again tomorrow. The place's pretty deserted, but the game's volume is so loud it echoes through the whole place. Kinda makes me embarrassed.

>>15592534
Yeah, you double step up or down for difficulty change.

>>15592548
Tell me about it, I feel kinda embarrassed playing J/Electro pop, but it's the kinda music I like

If you're on premium free and you run out of time in the middle of a song, do you get to finish the song or does it drop you out immediately?

Do I need psun in sound voltex to have all songs unlocked? I don't really care about restarting after a few songs and having to keep a spreadsheet.

>>15589874
So what's the verdict? Is it better to go for the konami official or does a dj dao work just as well? Do you get better spin on the turntable?

I guess I ask from the assumption that the person who did the review actually noted these things.

>>15592569
It should just take you to the "saving data" screen right after you finish the song and look at the results/grade screen.

>>15592613
PSUN will automatically unlock all songs, but if you're running it offline there's various hex edits that will do that as well.

Check the data thread on sows.

>>15592534
supernova is a meme mix so you have to make sure to select "all music" mode while you're starting the game. it's on the second page of categories. then you just double-tap down to increase difficulty, or double-tap up to reduce it. you can also just change the difficulty using the cabinet buttons when you're in the pre-song options menu (hold green instead of tapping it when you pick your song) that's also where you change speed mod, scroll direction, noteskin, etc.

>>15592622
So if I understand it right, you only get "safe" songs in offline mode? And I found hex edit that marks all songs safe, so if I use it, I will be able to play everything? I found a post that says with this way you can only play third song without limits, and it's better to transpose higher difficulties in music_db.xml.
So which method is better?

>>15592725
>you only get "safe" songs in offline mode
normally, when you play sdvx in the arcade, if you're a guest or a fresh e-amuse card, you get to pick difficulties up to 7 for your first song, then 8 for your second, then anything for your third

7 is the safe cutoff IIRC.

To change this (again, in the legitimate arcade version with legit e-amuse) you have to complete skill analyzer courses. ex: a skill level 05 course with 12-13 level songs allows you to pick 13, 14, and then anything in your normal games, should you pass the course and gain the rank of skill level 05.

>>15592737
Okay, so I just need to hex edit then? Thanks.

>>15592746
No, you really need psun to enjoy the game. More info is in the data thread

>>15592771
I dunno, people are saying in thread that without psun you only can't save scores (and have to restart).

>>15592778
Pretty sure there's no way of playing >7s on first song without being online. SDVX II doesn't have that restriction though, so get that instead if you don't have an ID.

>>15592814
when I was at California Extreme this year, they had two SDVX cabinets. When you started, there was a orange thing warning you that E-amuse wasn't working. You could select Light Start, Standard Start, or Blaster Start. Choosing Standard Start would allow you to pick any song for any of the stages. In the screen where you select your appeal card, your name was displayed as Tokyo Attack. I'm not sure how they had those games set up.

>>15592814
That what I was wondering about, I can edit music_db.xml to make 14->5 and 15->6 difficulties so I can play them on first song, but there is also a hex edit that makes everything "safe". But I don't know if that hex edit unlocks everything on first song or if it's just for no-failure purposes.

>>15592851
Oh, didn't know that actually made them playable. You should be fine then, I think.

The 'safe songs' hex edit is just for playing all three songs. It doesn't unlock anything.

>>15592880
>The 'safe songs' hex edit is just for playing all three songs. It doesn't unlock anything.
I'm really confused, being able to play all difficulties on all three songs is what I meant by "unlocking". What does hex edit do then if it doesn't allow me to play >7 songs on first song?

>>15592901
It makes it so if you fail a song, it lets you continue instead of game over

>>15592901
If you play a song that isn't marked 'safe' and fail, you'll be booted out of the session pre-maturely. The edit avoids that.

>>15592919
>>15592910
Got it, thanks.

>>15591970
>>15591162

>he doesn't bring powdered chalk with him for rhythm games

>>15593055
I bring a towel now, but I have about 15 minutes of experience with AC IIDX in my lifetime so I still can't scratch at all compared to my controller at home.

SDVX is much better for me because the panel is much higher off the ground.

Have to practice the powerstance.

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>tfw DDR omnimix will never be a thing

I miss the dancemania licenses

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>>15589828
>Eat shit. Unless you live in fucking Nunavut, I doubt there isn't shit just as "close" to you.
You forget that the US is very large. Unless you're in California, very very few people are anywhere near a IIDX machine.

>>15593073
>tfw spin the disc was removed from ddr for no reason despite having one of the best stepcharts of all time

>tfw I'll never know the proper arcade settings for the turntable because I most likely will never play on an actual machine

Can I use CS for reference? Plugging my FP7 on an PS2 and seeing how it is there?

>>15592234
Everyone says to expand the scale, but why not just do a mass rerank? Push a bunch of charts down a level or two and fill out the lower levels. Rerank all of the pre-RED charts too, there's no reason I know You know should sit next to I Was The One (80's EUROBEAT STYLE)

>>15592322
I like this idea a lot actually. It does seem weird how spaced out everything is. GFDM essentially being on a 1-100 scale, DDR on 20, IIDX on 12. No consistency at all.

>>15593263
I think a mass rerank creates the same problems lower down the levels. The problem I have with 11s now is that there's so much variation in difficulty. If there's more levels then they can get more granular with their difficulty ratings.

>>15593263
Right now in IIDX there's a lot of variations in 11's and 10s. Mass reranking everything would increase this problem, and probably extend it to 9's as well.

>>15592234
1-20 would be wonky and would result in fuckloads of songs having extremely questionable ratings a la DDR.

1-15 should have been the norm like a decade ago. DP alone would have made 1-12 outdated back in 4th style.

>>15593125

I refuse to believe this is a comprehensive list. You're telling me that in the third most populous country on Earth, there are only 36 public IIDX machines?

Holy fuck. It can't really be that bad.

reflec beat is a meme game

>>15593596
it is that bad

if you don't live near a round 1 you basically don't get to play bemani

>>15593596
This is a comprehensive list.

To make things worse, not all of those are Round1's, which means the majority of them are running something older than Copula and running it offline.

>>15592919
>>15592910
>>15592901
>>15592880
>>15592851

Speaking of this safe songs edit. I think I may have done something wrong with mine. It only makes 14s and 15s 5s and 6s respectively.

13s ans below are still the same rating. I mean, there are so few 13s that I could even conceivably fail at this point but it still irks my autism a bit to see it.

I'm thinking it'd because I did the skill analyzer before I added the edit. Can I "unanalyze" shit or did I just get a janky edit?

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>>15593596
The states are a bemani wasteland desu

>>15593630
Well, because you probably replaced music_db.xml by the one that only does 14=5 and 15=6. You can open music_db.xml in notepad++ and add for example a replacement for 13=4 or whatever you want.
I don't understand why he didn't simply make 13=3, 14=4, 15=5, it's not like there are EXH 5 charts.

>>15593596
36 is a lot, considering there are 0 (zero) confirmed machines in my country.

>all these complaints about having to drive a long way to play legit bemani with e-amusement
>tfw 1 public arcade in the whole country with offline pendual, offline popn 14 and some ghetto ddr abominations

>>15593649
1 is a lot, considering there are 0 (zero) confirmed machines in my country.

>>15593652
0 is a lot, considering there are -1 (negative one) confirmed machines in my country.

>>15593649
if it makes you feel any better even when i go 1 hour away to the round 1, they still only have shitty popn 19 tune street offline

i had a chance to play lapistoria and i want to play it again but i can't

>>15592621

the turntable is really well made. "feels even better than arcade"

it is a novelty controller though. very expensive and hard to get (32,184 yen + a japan address for konami to ship to + international shipping to whichever cunt you live in)

dao is definitely more worth the money, it also has PS2 support which new koc doesnt.

however if you can afford to fully mod this thing with sanwas and omrons and maybe an arcin for hdd, it would be the best portable controller you'll find

>>15592621
>>15593741
also it is made to order, you'd have to wait til they announce a second batch, which may not even happen for all i know.

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RIVAL matching will be added to INFINITAS in August!

My left forearm can handle shit 11.5 and up. It simply gets too fucking tired to keep up with the almost constant streams of 16th chords. Does this ever go away with more playing?

God damn this game is a nightmare. Who would have guessed there was a wall within a wall?

Americans keep complaining but at lease you don't live in Canada where we have two public IIDX machines, both in a single city.

One is running Sirius on a dying, old CRT, the other is running DJT on an LCD with awful lag.

Oh, and there's a 5key running HHM CM2 out in the middle of nowhere.

Speaking of, if I bought that 5key, you figure you could mod it with a Dremel to make it a tiny 7 key machine?

>>15593782
Do you need to have a Japanese e-amuse account to add rivals?

Or to use Paseli at all?

>>15594186
>you figure you could mod it with a Dremel to make it a tiny 7 key machine
if you do this i'll fucking kill you

buy a dao instead

>>15594215
it's literally a garbage machine anyway. it was barely working the last time i played on it.

>>15594253
so buy it and restore it and play 5key mixes

do you realize how rare these things are

and yet you want to destroy one of them

>>15594259
are they really that rare? I didn't know desu. I've watched a bunch of videos of 5 key mixes on Youtube. They look awful and the song selection isn't my cup of tea. Maybe I should just leave it be.

>>15594278
5 key machines are about as rare in Nipland as 7 key machines are in the rest of the world
So very rare

>>15594354
oh fuck they had a 5k beatmania 2nd mix cab here not long ago, dunno what happened to it as it suddenly wasn't at the arcade anymore.

New DJ Max Respect trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AxJnhcyciM

Almost makes me want to get a PS4. Just gotta wait for this to sell gangbusters so Konmai puts Infinitas on PS4 as well

I've been playing since april approximately two hours a day with one day break a week.
Why am I stuck at sixes?
I was progressing relatively ok, but now it feels like I've completely stopped. I've been at this stage for about a month. What's the problem? Why aren't I progressing?
My right wrist hurts like an absolute motherfucker.
I'm sick of getting home and going into the 6 folder and hitting random for two hours and then not being able to use my wrist for the rest of my night.

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>>15594411
>Lademade Star
nice

Also I'm not sure how to feel about the UI. It's certainly a lot cleaner and modern, but I feel like some of the charm from the DJMax series is lost as a result.
Have there been any announcements about the 3DS game?

Does keyboardmania work well in any version of Mame? I tried out 2 in the latest one and all I got were fucked up beatmaps. It'd be nice if there was any fucking info on this online, but hey, I'm guessing it's all locked up in the secret club.

>>15594484

3 months of playing everyday and you're stuck on 6s? Unless you have some kind of medical condition or something, I don't see how this is possible

How do you position your hands on the keys, are you wrist scratching?

>>15594484
Push yourself once in a while.
Find a comfortable position.

>>15594553
I hover above the keys. I've been playing 1-4 with my left hand, and 5-7 with my right. When I scratch I use mostly my thumb for 5-7, but I've been working on using my pointer.

>>15594586

Is there any particular reason you play 2P? Do you not have a choice or does it just feel more comfortable?

>>15594614
When I first picked it up, I tried both in LR2 (I have a reversible DAO) and 2P felt better. Now my right wrist is hurting a whole bunch, but it hurts even more when I play 1P.

>>15594640
2p is fine yo. just pick a side to play on, no need to try to do both

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>Brain Power coming to Museca tomorrow

Building a svdx controller, anyone who did that here? Did you use some sort of liw friction tape/surface under the knobs? If not, do your knobs scratch your controller board?