General Nutaku and DMM Thread 117

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first for waifu

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Second for meteor spammers

>>15578704
I'm going to fuck her.

>>15578818
I'm truly blessed to have Aisha.
Now I just need to get the material for Skill Awakening.

>>15579163
Speaking of SAW, looks like the weekend map isn't all that tough and can be done with just Nadia, Anelia and Sabrina thanks to their area attacks.

Unfortunately, I also discovered that I ran out of dragonrider orbs and can't SAW Nadia until next week. Still, that orc subjugation is going to be fun once I do so.

So I just got Star Lily's H scene, and it's in third person. When did they start doing that? Will they all eventually be in third person? I think it makes more sense for them to be first person.

>>15579750
It's been that way since Mountain Lily, and it's really annoying unless you're into some roundabout form of NTR.

I sent in a ticket a while back, hopefully they get around to fixing them soon (especially since they sorta fixed the event story quests).

You might still want to send them a reminder though.

>>15579824
Speaking of fixing H scenes, I got Lilac's earlier and... wow. Just, wow. Someone really half-assed typing that one up. They seriously need to fix that.

Is it worth it blowing crystals to get Liselotte's last cost down?

I got her from 16 to 14 cc'd and now I'm bone cry on cha and sta.

>>15580124
No, it isn't very urgent and the revivals will roll around on a regular schedule anyway. You'll get more chances to mincost her.

We're about due for an item collection event, I'd save up some SCs for that instead.

>>15578704
Blah, Liselotte is a bitch to CR. I've thrown 16 copies at her and I'm still at -3.

>>15580375
She's the worst plat soldier anyway, honestly not worth it

>>15581481
A little too late, I just got her min costed at attempt #19.

>>15581481
Is it bad that I prefer Liselotte over Jake's shenanigans? I always find myself bringing her for the plat cooldown Reinforcements III and Shield Boost.

Is it also bad that I use Zenobia non-CC'd for her cheap cost?

>>15578704
You failed us OP, you promised to put a Duel Squad picture. I have lost hope in you.

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Revival cycle is over, they didn't put the "newer" units like Levi or Sabrina.

>>15582253
On the bright side, you could "farm" for RC from these revival maps.

I'm fine with it as a new player. It's been hard on me trying to do these while at least half-assing the normal events.

I need to work on Chloe and Rikka this week and finish up Belinda (1 CR short of min cost) and I can spend the rest of the week finishing up Aida and then doing the new event.

>>15581859
No, you're doing it right.

>>15582199
As I said I couldn't find one. I had the options of a card pic that was a small image or some decent nutaku ones that I didn't use because on the off chance it garnered interest and people wanted to play it only to realize it's closing.

>>15582253
What's this? Free angel fodder?

>>15583281
That, plus a lot of plat cans from the guaranteed first time rewards.

I have 9 of them and no fairies to feed any of my units.

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>>15583166
Bahamut is not amused by your lack of effort.

>>15582301
Wait? What? Where?

>>15582301
Or you could farm ongoing farm event unit if you are so desperate, you don't need daily revivals for it.

>>15583785
Rainbow crystals. Just chuck your event unit copies for a few of them.

>>15582301
>>15583814
>>15583905
I won't sell or use those extra event units...there is a chance that you will need them as fodder to the 2nd AW.

>>15583935
That's great. Until then, I'm selling them for RC, it's not like they're unfarmable ever again.

>>15584473
In my case its not for that they are unfarmeable, its because I don't want to farm those again (I consider it a chore), as for the RC store, the only good unit there is the dark knight whose I already have another unit to replace him, so I'm not really eager to get those crystals.

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Huh, so the new Chocolate Cosmos has an alternate victory animation where she plays the "she loves me, she loves me not" game with a cosmos flower.

They might as well outright confirm cousin incest between these two. Her new design even has her own dark red mixed with Cosmos' pink in her hairpins and ribbons.

Does anyone have link for 3* Undead Swarm clear with Solano and silvers? I thought I had it bookmarked, but can't find it again now.

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Found it myself. Whew, that its, 24/24 somehow.

Anyone still playiing sengoku providence can help me? Is it necessary to max bonus points in atak def, etc for me to awaken my units? Or is not necessary?

>>15585458
No, bonus stats carry over, it doesn't matter when you add them.

>>15585470
oh, thanks, i was thinking that I screwed up somewhere and my girls were weak because of that

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So we're getting the pirate event alright.

Looks like it's a card-flipping event, and you'll be collecting cannonballs as event currency.

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Here are the portraits, courtesy of folks over at 2ch. I hope the cannoneer is the event girl.

Broom, rainbow, magic-type
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http://i.imgur.com/E0494d1.png

Epimedium, gold, crushing-type
http://i.imgur.com/AsZB4d5.png
http://i.imgur.com/FNW7hFT.png

Water Hyacinth, gold, slashing-type
http://i.imgur.com/J9dK7BU.png
http://i.imgur.com/IfmSA3u.png

Seemannia, gold, piercing-type
http://i.imgur.com/VxAAmgy.png
http://i.imgur.com/pXMALt4.png

I'm glad that the broom girl indeed does wield a broom. Let's see if we'll eventually get a broomrape in the game.

>>15585647
Looks meh

>>15584597
The fairy is a good alternative to Luize

New game.

http://www.nutaku.net/games/harem-heroes/

At least the art isn't as offensively bad as the other ones.

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A very solid haul.

Between Serissa, Water Hyacinth and swimsuit Cattleya, I also have enough 3-target skills to complete 4 teams now. Ultimates should be a fair bit easier from now on.

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>>15586085
>harem
>gangbang
What are they doing?

>>15585739
I started at Anya's revival and I've never suffered for more att except in the majin maps which I get to the lvl 5 and forget that lvl 10 exists. To me she is more of hentai scene that cost 1k RC.

>>15578704
I saw Nachi in the OP and thought this was the Kancolle thread but was wrong on both counts

>>15586085
Holy shit what's that crap?
Is that even legal?
I see a Cammy, someone from Naruto and Sailor Moon.
Damn this is bad for real.

Aw come on. I spent the better part of an hour in Aigis trying to run some revivals on this awful Windows tablet until I could get home and as soon as I log into FKG and run a dragon map it goes down for maintenance before I can collect the rewards.

Fuck everything.

>>15586955
How would it be more illegal than thousands of doujins featuring those characters? All you gotta do is call it parody and you can make cash off other people's designs/characters, the developers normally don't care

>>15586995
You got a point i guess.

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I wonder what will be her next plan.

>>15587430
Turning the knightmaster into a girl, making her a flower knight, and taking her place as the rightful main character. All H-scenes will be replaced by yuri domination play with Nazuna, including 3 scenes for the knightmaster.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv267215393

That aside, timeshifts for the next broadcast, scheduled for August 7, are up. Since this is a main broadcast and not a spin-off, you can expect previews for many new girls, events and mechanics that will be released in the following six months.

Lastly, people new to card-flipping events should note that all cards in the current event are static (you're randomly given one of 4 sets, depending on which girl is featured on your card screen). If you don't want to waste your cannonballs, use the guide below to see where the important prizes are:

http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/index.php?%E7%B7%8A%E6%80%A5%E4%BB%BB%E5%8B%99%E3%80%80%E6%B5%B7%E3%81%AB%E5%92%B2%E3%81%8F%E9%9D%92%E3%81%84%E6%82%AA%E9%AD%94/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%81%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8A

>>15586995
>>15587025
Different companies have those shows/characters licensed abroad so the legality is questionable outside of Japan. I know it would be legal for the US so at most the license holders could sue. Legal or not I doubt anyone would care enough to mess with them.

>>15588947
What is curious is why Nutaku, a company that wants to be the Western equivalent of DMM's gaming platform, is trying to be the Western equivalent of GoGames instead.

Their more reputable games should bring them far more profit, why are they bothering with this crap?

>>15586820
For me she's an important tool to beat level 10 majin maps. Sorry you aren't strong enough, that doesn't detract from her value.

Looks like next week is a gold rush in Aigis, with Bifrons advent (so look forward to necromancer ninjas after this), a draconian gold unit and a sacred crystal campaign that comes with one of these new gold experience requiem fairies.

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Welp, that's it for me.

>>15589420
I think it's because Nutaku is totally incompetent.

>>15589420
They want to be steam of hgames, this is their greenlighting.

whats wrong with dmm? keep getting disconnected

FKG maint in 6 minutes.

>>15590172
I can only access it through zenmate at the moment, though I think its my police state ISP acting up again

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Not pictured: Scarlet Tulip and Convallaria dupe from single rolls.

What did I do to deserve this shit?

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I love you guys. At least we won against the Pansies.

Jokes aside, where's the special gacha? Guess I'll have to check Discord.

>>15590692
It'll probably happen after the current limited 2 gacha finishes. So the 29th.

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>>15590692
Replying to myself, they actually said shortly after the event ends so probably on Thursday or Friday once the Pierce gacha ends.

>>15590580
Complaining about getting two golds in a 10+1 roll... some of us have done 10 rolls in a row without one grrr. I'm evolving 2* for lack of girls here.

For some reason this image was offered when I wrote Lucky Gold on google, have at you

>>15590727
>not evolving 2* waifus to start with

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>>15590806
I love them, Mint be witness,but I just want some gold man... I'm not searching for rainbows...

>>15590692
I dumped my 4016 tickets on Royal Princess/Rose Diana at the end, looks like that made the difference to let her beat Pansy

Nice, looks like Lechenaultia's H-scene is in first person.

The lack of EN brides is a bummer, and that Discord message was insult to injury, but Nutaku has been very responsive to user feedback with FKG. Let's hope that they will continue providing good service.

>>15590923
Now if they only fix the previous H-scenes or the names.

>>15590935
That would be good too, but a tad more difficult. The names in particular have some inertia going for them.

Last I checked, half of Discord was calling Oncidium by her terrible EN name, even though calling her Orchid is two steps removed from calling her Flower.

>>15590923
Went to check Discord to see if you meant another message from today or those from last week and opened to a guy flaunting his double rainbow + gold pick and people saying how weird it was that since playing from day one he didn't have rainbows yet.

Fuck.

>>15590923
Nice.

So Daisy and the other new gacha girls should be fine too.

Now if I could actually get Daisy...

>>15590984
I've whaled over a thousand shekels and still don't have a rainbow.

>>15591010
Just wait for pick-your-rainbow campaigns.

Still, playing on both sides takes a lot of the stress off bad rolls. I've just gotten another batch of nothing while rolling for Iris on Nutaku, but I don't especially care since I have 32 golds and 4 rainbows over on DMM anyway, and I can do a new batch roll every 3 weeks or so.

>>15590980
They only call her that because it was listed as her name. If they changed it to Oncidium, pretty sure they will just go along with it.

Do any other names besides Oncidium desperately need fixing? Besides Cymbidium and Dendrobium's former-localized names in Oncidium's translated character quests.

>>15591038
All of the ones that were changed desperately need fixing.

Especially the ones like Alstroe Maria. But they're all fucking awful.

>>15591080
What's wrong with Canola? Convallaria? Using Bianca/Violetta/Saffron/Scarlet in place of White/Purple/Yellow/Red?

>>15591038
Cactace, Olive (not actually an olive) and Rose Diana (not actually a Diana rose) are the major offenders. I'm also not very fond of gratuitous name splits (for Carnation, Cephalanthera, Phalaenopsis, Alstroemeria etc.) and the use of species names to create name-surname arrangements, there's no need to do that when half the girls don't have them anyway.

There are some that they changed for no real reason (Red Ginger to Alpinia, Ume to Mei, color names except Saffron since that just invites confusion with the actual Saffron), but these are good since the girls are still named for their flowers.

>>15591091
>Using Bianca/Violetta/Saffron/Scarlet in place of White/Purple/Yellow/Red?

This misses the entire purpose. They're flowers. Don't try to make them into real names. Just name them after the fucking flower.

>>15591116
>Just name them after the fucking flower.
That's a good rule of thumb, especially since half the girls are named in plain English anyway.

It only doesn't work on things like Kurenai/Ajisai, because we don't really have different names for red and blue hydrangeas, but even then you could make do with something like hydrangea/hortensia, mountain hydrangea/broadleaf hydrangea etc.

>>15591139
Honestly, the girls all have English names in the DMM version anyway. They don't always match the Japanese name, though, even if it's not a name that's actually Japanese (Gazania/Treasure Flower).

If nothing else, just name them one of the two names they have in JP and be done with it.

>>15591194
I thought these were only for girls who were featured on banners? So there might be some still without official names.

But yes, that's a good idea as well, and comes with the bonus of not accidentally naming someone after a future girl. There are a lot of ways that they could handle the naming problem, they just need to go ahead and implement one of these.

>>15591213
It might be, but if they had done it from the start we'd have still avoided Orchid Wydler and Cactace.

I feel like I'm the only guy here who isn't autistic over the FKG names.
I'll call them whatever Nutaku does instead of what their japanese name in english actually is so that people know what I'm talking about instead of having to learn another set of names.

If you guys want to change their names and other random shit fine, just don't expect most people that play to care (most people that play FKG in english don't come here).

You guys are fucking awful at getting your message across so its no wonder its taking so long to happen.

>>15591224
I don't really care either, but if Nutaku is going to stick with the names DMM is used to, they may as well revert the launch ones.

What's sillier to me is how whoever runs the wikia also stubbornly refused to budge on even acknowledging Nutaku's names for a while, until they finally added a line in to avoid confusion.

>>15591271
The Wikia is for the DMM version. At one point someone ran through and changed all of the names to Nutaku names and they had to revert the whole wiki back because it's not for Nutaku's version.

>new limited gacha
>saved 100 gems
>rolled just for Iris
>got Peach, Gerbera, Hinoki and Lily (got already)

I'm not sure how am i supposed to feel about it.

Does anyone have the link to that imgur album where all images are comparison of nutaku's butchered osawari lolis and dmm original osawari loli?

>>15591365
IIRC, someone said several topics ago that it's been deleted.

>>15591315
Being for the DMM version doesn't mean Nutaku players won't use it.

So the old stance of refusing to recognize that Nutaku exists was just petty elitism.

They eventually added a line for "Nutaku name" so it's a moot point anyway, but before that, it was stupid.

>>15591406
They can, but there's little reason for them to. Nutaku's version has it's own wiki.

http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl

>>15591365
https://mega.nz/#!isxQ1DZY!HsIx8lPIhmz2zaYBVDEm7wpihsU3fTVGIhowK5Nkxdk

>>15591315
Wikis are for infomation, refusing to add one of the official english names leads to a bad wiki.
You already use 2 different names how is adding a third even a tiny problem for these guys?

The problem would not have occured if they added the 3rd name to the wiki properly and first .

>>15591455
>You already use 2 different names how is adding a third even a tiny problem for these guys?

That was part of the discussion they had on the wiki. The formatting broke if you tried to add another column and someone was replacing all of the original names with Nutaku names.

Adding it to individual pages is something to consider, but if they're not on the rest of the site then what good does it really do you? It's not like you can look at the list and search for "Orchid Wydler." You won't find it.

Ultimately, the character list was left alone, so Nutaku players who don't know the original character names are boned either way. That's why Nutaku's version has its own wiki.

>>15591463
>Adding it to individual pages is something to consider, but if they're not on the rest of the site then what good does it really do you? It's not like you can look at the list and search for "Orchid Wydler." You won't find it.

Except you can.

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Orchid_Wydler

It's been fixed for a while now. The whole reason I brought it up was because there was no reason to pretend Nutaku's names didn't exist just because people disagreed with the choices.

>>15591501
>Except you can.

Not on the character list, you can't.

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Characters

Did any late night JP FKG players have anything to say about the final vote tallies for EN FKG?

>>15591507
I wasn't even talking about the formatting.

When the Wikia people had to revert the names, they were justified in their annoyance.

My problem was how they initially didn't give Nutaku players a way to find the names they were used to because "lolNutaku".

>>15591365
Funny thing is that even Goma is uncensored too. Goodbye oppai loli :V

>>15591536
Does it really matter? It makes about as much sense as going to the JP wiki and adding Nutaku names because hey, some Nutaku players use that, too!

Nutaku's version had its own wiki. This entitled "me too" nonsense on an unrelated wiki is stupid.

But there was already enough compromise that the names are on there, even though they don't need to be, so whatever. I don't know why you thought it was necessary to complain about something that's been done for months now anyway.

>>15591552
I shouldn't need to point out the obvious language barrier between the JP wiki and the various English ones, but well, here it is.

Of course there's a modicum of sense to be made for Nutaku players to use the DMM wikia, whether you care to admit it or not. Not accommodating those people is a stupid move regardless.

But again, moot point.

>>15591636
Very, very little reason. The units and stats and damn near everything else will never be in line with what Nutaku's version has because of the huge gap in patches, balancing, and content.

And language is literally the only difference between the Wikia and the JP wiki. If you don't see the sense in shoving Nutaku-specific information into one DMM-specific wiki, you shouldn't see the sense in doing it in the other.

The Wikia is not, was not, and never will be a wiki for the Nutaku version. Nutaku's version has its own wiki and Nutaku players are encouraged to use and contribute to it. They have no rightful claim to the information in the DMM Wikia. It's selfish and entitled to think they do.

>>15591643
It's a fucking alternate name, not a statement about Nutaku being better or worse than DMM. A primarily-English community can and should accommodate both playerbases. Fuck off with this entitled bullshit.

>>15591643
>>15591552
How the actual fucking hell are newcomer nutaku players supposed to be able to tell that the wikia isn't "for them"?

I googled, I clicked, I didn't automatically psychically know that one wiki was intended only for people who played the Japanese version of the game and the other wiki (which was a little sparse which is why I didn't wanna use it) was the """"correct"""" one. It's not selfish and entitled to just not know something. Christ.

>>15591643
>The Wikia is not, was not, and never will be a wiki for the Nutaku version.

Wrong, its the future Nutaku version meaning Nutaku players will have an interest in it.

Who really cares about the stats other than those that want to compare if nutaku has the same stats yet, the game doesn't differentiate between one rainbow and another enough to say that one's great to get and and one's bad to get.

Names and pictures of the girl are the main draw for wiki users, the game isn't remotely complex like Aigis is.

>>15591761
No reason to get so upset about a half asses copy of the JP wikis.

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Shh, the cannoneer is sleeping

>>15591835
shit girl, Zola is better

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>>15591993
>shit girl
fite me

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Yessss incomming gold rush.

>>15591993
This, Zola and the recent black cannoneer are the best and cutest ones. Persis is kinda meh, your average blond / big tits, only looks with no personality at all...

>>15591766
>>15591766
>How the actual fucking hell are newcomer nutaku players supposed to be able to tell that the wikia isn't "for them"?

Probably when they get to the main page and see that the current event listing isn't for Nutaku's version.

>It's not selfish and entitled to just not know something.

No one said it's entitled if you don't know, but if you know and keep asking then it's entitlement.

>>15591761
>Fuck off with this entitled bullshit.

Says the person who's mad that the DMM wiki didn't bend to the will of almighty Nutaku players.

>>15592023
>daily SC login bonus
Great, I was afraid I wouldn't hit 150 this month
The dragon is cool, I wonder if he's a bandit or a soldier, and will he have an AW

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>>15591766
>>15592078
It's not that hard anon, the same ingame page tells you.

>>15592104
He's Anya's sister

>>15592113
Oh, so there are two Nutaku version wikis then. Great. Why do we need to make a third out of the Wikia again?

>>15592104
I hope to god he's not a soldier, having another worthless attack skill soldier whose only purpose is skill fodder would be disappointing.

>>15592118
One is the official and the other one is a fan made (harem-battle), and as spected the fan made is better in some aspects.

>>15592126
Bandit or even avenger would be nice given the axe. Ryujin soldiers are pure garbage.

>>15592146
In what way is hbc wiki not better?

>>15592126
If he's something like Zenobia, it could work
But yeah, we already have too many soldiers and all of them are dwarfed by Jerome's amazing AW ability and overall monstrous Altia

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These last few event units have been nerfed quite badly on the power department, haven't they?
Just tried setting the teams power wise and although I kinda expected it, Moonvine's Hp hurts her a lot, her attack doesn't seem too fancy even if it's kinda high being single target.

>>15592210
If you ask me, its something subjetive, I dislike a lot their page layout, or leaving the coments open to everyone make the comunity more cancerous and things like that, something like the Touhou or KanColle wikia, but that is undestandeable, their page is a forum after all, so you can say I dislike the bi products of the info that is there. I appreciate pages that only put the info required one example could be the Love Live wikia where you can browse it in peace and find the respective info without the need to load unnecesary comments or posts or memes.

>>15592223
>dwarfed by Jerome's amazing AW ability and overall monstrous Altia
You seem to forget that those are gacha units, to the free user he will be stuck with Katie and Philis, or any event unit he can get his hands on, the dragon guy included.

>>15592225
Its what most games do unintentionally, they make the first few event units on par with gacha units then realize the gacha units need to be better so people aim for them. They then make all event units from then on slightly worse than the gacha units of the same rarity. Balancing units is hard at the start, some games can take years to balance.

Aigis had units like Cloris, Belinda, Aria and Anya, all great units compared to gacha units of the same rarity specially when they first came out.

Moonvine herself doesn't even hit the top 20 of my max level team anymore, but I still use her since she's got better passive skills than my silvers.

>>15592225
Some later event golds (Hypericum, Dipladenia, Oxydendrum, Mirabilis etc.) are still pretty solid.

Besides, stat totals don't mean all that much. Cymbidium has a very low total for a gacha unit, for example, while girls like Mountain Lily and Star Lily will eventually fall in usefulness despite their massive statlines.

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How does one tell how close they are to the next stamp card in Aigis?

I feel like I can't possibly be right, but I could swear that the red box at the top says I'm 5 crystals away from the legend card for August.

>>15592487
The red box at the top says you're 5 crystals away from the legend card for August

>>15592225
Stats don't means that much, Lavender got good stats but her passives are quite a waste.
Leche is not bad at all and Moonvine can be quite a killer for fast first turn wipes.
If i recall correctly Geranium is very good too with her 1.2 bonus to skill activations.

>>15592497
I... Oh. Okay.

I mean I've been dropping a ton of crystals on revival stamina refills, bought some barracks, and did a few draws but... Wow. I'm a free player. How did I even get enough for that?

Okay, thanks. I guess I'll drop one more pull for the card.

>>15592498
Lavender has an area skill and one of the best passives in the game, making her easily the most useful event girl alongside Hypericum.

Geranium was great when she first came out, but the large number of skill up units (even for event girls) narrows her niche.

>>15592078
>Says the person who's mad that the DMM wiki didn't bend to the will of almighty Nutaku players.

Except for the part that it literally did cater to Nutaku players. Like it should have from the start. It's an English resource for English players. Being primarily DMM-based doesn't make the Wikia your own exclusive club.

The only entitled person is you for arbitrarily wanting to prevent Nutaku players from having an easy time navigating the Wikia, for seemingly no good reason except blatant elitism. Which you're trying to spin and/or somehow convincing yourself that Nutaku players are the ones being unreasonably demanding instead.

>>15592514
You're the one who, from the very start and before I even said anything, complained that the DMM Wikia didn't add Nutaku information to it.

Don't talk to me about entitlement and elitism.

"Like it should have." Jesus, are you even listening to yourself?

>>15592514
>It's an English resource for English players.
It's an English resource for English players on DMM. What Nutaku does is only relevant as trivia.

Are you saying that if Nutaku's FKG management went stark raving mad and put Silly Girl to their game, the DMM wiki should be obliged add her? Because that's retarded.

I've got enough seeds for hundreds of 10-unit pulls of the normal gacha, please tell me the 100 pull will be implemented shortly...

>>15592528
>>15592529
You guys are acting like Nutaku FKG is the retarded sibling of DMM FKG master race server. That might be true for other games, but it's not the case here.

The only major differences (relevant to this discussion) are the 1-2 year headstart and the naming conventions. As such, there is literally no reason a Nutaku player can't use the Wikia as a means to look ahead into the release schedule.

Your insistence that Nutakufags should fuck off to their own wiki really only serves to highlight this anon's >>15591224 original observation.

>>15592528
The guy who made that post said >What's sillier to me is how whoever runs the wikia also stubbornly refused to budge on even acknowledging Nutaku's names for a while, until they finally added a line in to avoid confusion.
I don't see any complaints there, just a comment that it took longer than expected.

How about you read what people post properly before you comment on them.

>>15592529
Silly girl wouldn't need to be added, but names are important for communication, all names are important infomation for a wiki, whether you use them or not, why use both dmm names in the wikia if almost all who use it can't understand half of them?

>>15592556
To me, it does seem as if it is the retarded sibling after the last event falling through. I expect more mismanagement in the future.

The "headstart" is made negligible by the larger rate of crystals received and the revival events on DMM.

That wiki exists to give english speaking DMM players more accessible information. I think that they should have the right to enjoy not getting Nutaku's version shoved down their throat. Nutaku wikis exist for the game, so it is not like you are being neglected.

>>15592587
The last event was unfortunate, yes, but it was surprising that Nutaku would get its own brides to begin with, even if it was a short-lived promise.

The difference in free FGs and revivals isn't relevant to the wiki conversation.

If adding one line about localized names is your idea of "shoving Nutaku's version down their throat", I don't know what to say to you. But that just reeks of pettiness to me.

>>15592603
>shoving Nutaku's version down their throat
This happened with that one dude who changed all names to their Nutaku versions. This was swiftly reverted.

>adding one line about localized names
This was decided to be not much of an issue and added as trivia. The wikia response was perfectly reasonable.

The problem here is that we have this idiot who claims that Nutaku's names are actually important and that the wikia staff had an obligation to add them. That is entirely untrue. It was less "we're a resource for the Nutaku players too, we should add the Nutaku names" and more "Eh, who cares? Add them if you want to." in response to a question by a single editor.

>>15592587
Well, I still expect them to run the game decently, even if they can't add EN content. They've been prompt in addressing various issues so far.

DMM is still by far the superior version, but there's no shame in playing on both sides.

>>15592624
It's an obligation because it's information MEANT TO PREVENT CONFUSION. Not because I'm some entitled faggot that wants my Nutaku representation across all wikis. Jesus.

Like >>15591455 said, the whole reason the Wikia had to be reverted in the first place was because a Nutaku player got the wrong idea. If the Wikia properly acknowledged Nutaku's naming conventions from the start, no matter how much they disagreed with it, there wouldn't be any confusion later on.

>>15592647
Adding Nutaku names to the wikia only creates further confusion, courtesy of idiots who think it's for Nutaku and try to add mistranslated skill descriptions.

The current arrangement makes sense because it's easy to understand that Nutaku's names are secondary and added for clarification. They aren't and should not be valid equivalents for the official JP/EN names provided by DMM, as far as that wikia is concerned. Hence why they're trivia and not an essential component of the wiki.

>>15592675
Ffs, my original complaint was that there was ZERO mention of them whatsoever, because rather than refuse to have Nutaku's version "shoved down their throats", the Wikia instead tried to pretend Nutaku may as well not exist. Obviously, this created problems for the sizable portion of FKG players that speak English but don't play on DMM.

The average English-speaking player isn't going to make a distinction between what you deem official vs. trivia.

Again, I don't give two shits about the formatting. I wasn't talking about that. I was referring to how your average Nutaku shmuck didn't instantly know Orchid Wydler = Oncidium because the Wikia didn't bother to make that connection until just recently.

>>15592692
i think we should just have a banner at the top of the english dmm fkg wikia saying "FUCK OFF NUTAKU PLAYERS"
that'll prevent confusion!

>>15592705
They actually had that for a while, but looks like it's removed now. Still, not a bad idea.

In any case, a lot of problems would be solved if Nutaku reverted these names to their proper versions.

>>15592692
I want you to tell me why Nutaku information needs to be on there at all.

There are -two- wikis dedicated to the Nutaku version of the game, and have been since launch.

If you look for information on the DMM wiki, it will likely not match Nutaku's outdated version.

If you're looking for future content, there is no Nutaku translation because it doesn't exist yet.

So what purpose could there -possibly- be for needing to add Nutaku names to the DMM wiki -at all-? What end goal are you even arguing for? I don't know what you want here. Why is this something you need other than some kind of petty cry for attention from the DMM players on their wiki?

Canola and Convallaria are much better names than Field Mustard or Lily of the Valley.

Honestly, I've grown partial to Mei Plumblossom over Ume too. Ume reminds me more of the artist.

>>15592723
See >>15592647. If you insist on arguing that I'm the elitist and not you, then there's no point in continuing the conversation. But the Nutaku information is there now, as it should be, and frankly, your asinine attempts to one-up me because you have some idiotic notions of exclusive content for a public-domain wikia are getting old.

>>15592733
No, fuck that. That doesn't make sense. You have to explain. What confusion? What business do Nutaku players have on that wiki at all? Why do they need to be catered to on a Wikia that doesn't present information for the game they're playing?

You either explain that shit to me or you can fuck off with your name calling. Right now you've done nothing but dance around it and several people have called you out on why it isn't necessary at all.

>>15592745
>>15592750
Nutaku players on Discord refer to the Wikia all the goddamn time. When asked who next week's gacha girls would be, or what gifts they needed for the next event girl, they would link the Wikia. It's perfectly valid to use it for upcoming content.

Now you're telling me you're so petty that you want those same people to use a different Wikia, just because Nutaku uses different names or don't have future balance patches implemented? Please. Get the fuck over yourself.

>>15592755
No. I want you you tell me, as I asked before, why these people need Nutaku names on the wiki. Future content won't have a Nutaku name. If they need current content, they can get it from one of two Nutaku wikis.

Tell me. Why. They need Nutaku names.

Quit saying variations of "they just do" and tell me. Justify it.

>>15592733
>as it should be
Hold it, this is dumb. That information is not vital to the functioning of the wiki. It's not bad that it is there, but it could be removed and the place would be no worse for it. It is trivia.

The DMM wikia is under no obligation to cater to Nutaku players. Is it good that it's making the distinction? Yeah. Does it have to make the distinction? No.

>>15592755
>It's perfectly valid to use it for upcoming content
Yes, in the same way that they could use the JP wiki. Should the JP side add Nutaku names for their convenience too? Besides, upcoming girls have no names on Nutaku, so why does this require the wikia to add Nutaku's names again?

But hey, neither of the Nutaku wikis make any mention of the actual names of the girls, only the Nutaku names are there. I guess that anyone angry about Nutaku "being shoved down" wikia users' throats can go add JP names to every single girl over there.

>>15592762
Because these same Nutaku players that you insist have no place on the Wikia are clueless and can't make two-and-two to figure out who certain girls are.

When Nutaku releases the bridal Oncidium/Cactus, god forbid they still use Orchid and Cactace, but in the event they do so, you want to argue that the Wikia would be better off pretending Nutaku doesn't exist?

Hell, even Flowering Peach, or as it is on the Wikia, Peach Blossom. You don't think there's even a teensy-bit of confusion that could easily be avoided if Nutaku's version of the name was dropped in a footnote somewhere?

>>15592772
I'm not going to fucking elaborate on the language barrier again. And I'd be fine if the other wikis added the JP names as well. There's nothing stopping them from adding it.

>>15592762
I'm not him but thats not whats needed, you have to convince people to remove the names from the wikia, the names are already there.

Saying he needs to justify it is wrong as its already happened, you're just bitching and so need to justify it to get someone to change it.

If its already there despite opposition from the wikia people then clearly they feel its right to have it there even if they don't like it.

Can't you discuss this on that wikia?

>>15592798
I've already conceded that it it's there, and I really don't care that it is (though I did care when the whole site was having the original English names removed in favor of them), but if he's going to sit there and name-call because I say it never needed to be and there was no reason to get upset about it in the first place, he's going to have to back that shit up.

>>15592792
I don't think it matters. I think if they want to look up information on existing units, they can. If they want to look up information on the DMM version, they need some knowledge of the DMM version or to sit down and do their own research. The Wikia and its users have no obligation to alter their information to cater to them. It's nice of them to have done so, but they had no need to. And you can't sit there and say things like "stubbornly refused to budge" and "Like it should have from the start" and not sound like a completely entitled asshole but then get pissed off when someone calls you on it.

>>15592798
>If its already there despite opposition from the wikia people
That is wrong. These names were added because the wikia people didn't care too much about it.

Theirs is the correct attitude here. Wikia doesn't need to add Nutaku names, but there's no real need to see them removed either.

>>15592792
>Because these same Nutaku players that you insist have no place on the Wikia are clueless and can't make two-and-two to figure out who certain girls are.
Well, okay? Why should the DMM wiki care if these people don't know that Nutaku and DMM names are different?

They aren't the target audience here. If they want to use the wikia, then sure they can, but the wikia itself doesn't have to add anything to make it easier on them, because that's not its function.

>>15592832
So your entire argument is that you're opposed to change, even if it's already happened, and you think it's better for the Wikia to be exclusive because you have a Nutaku hateboner.

See, you could've just left it at that. But your arguments that the Wikia is better off being exclusively DMM are just, like, your opinion, man.

I already listed the primary reason for why it would be in the Wikia's best interests to list Nutaku names. If you think they're better off being dicks to Nutaku players, then that's your call.

But a Wikia is a resource, not a circlejerk (not supposed to be, anyway). So there shouldn't be something like a "correct attitude" for something as trivial as this.

Nutaku won't go away by pretending it doesn't exist, and Nutaku players won't be discouraged from using it unless explicitly stated. Objectively speaking, it's better to accommodate both playerbases so everyone gets the information they want in one place. Not this segregated bullshit because muh attitude.

>>15592832
Didn't they have a "fuck off nutaku players" banner for a bit? Is that not opposition in general?

The DMM wiki should care that the names are there somewhere so that retarded Nutaku players don't edit the wiki again and cause it to be reverted.

Until you can make it so Nutaku players can't use wikia at all you're gonna need to make concessions so that its easier for the DMM players to not get fucked over by Nutaku players.

The only other realistic solution is to add all the future events and flower knights to the Nutaku wiki making that the dominant wiki.

>>15592869
You're arguing with a different anon. >>15592813 is the one you've been talking to.

Also, I don't think anyone here has a Nutaku hateboner. There's basically a "The Wikia *needs* to cater to Nutaku" and "The Wikia has *no obligation* to cater to Nutaku" showdown.

>>15592869
>But your arguments that the Wikia is better off being exclusively DMM are just, like, your opinion, man.
No, the wikia being exclusively DMM is a given. That's its stated purpose. The question is whether there is merit in adding Nutaku names in spite of that.

>I already listed the primary reason for why it would be in the Wikia's best interests to list Nutaku names.
And I already said that it's good that the alternative names are there. What I'm not saying is that the alternative names are important information that absolutely have to be there. Them being there is not a major issue, the wikia staff only have to care about what happens on Nutaku to the extent that it affects DMM (so, not very much).

>Objectively speaking, it's better to accommodate both playerbases so everyone gets the information they want in one place.
Nutaku's and DMM's versions of FKG are effectively different games because of the version lag. If you combine them, nobody gets the information they want.

>>15592903
But that's also a silly statement to make, because if you are in the latter camp, you have no right to complain when dumb Nutaku players start making Nutaku-specific changes to the Wikia again.

The idea of the Wikia being exclusive to DMM is artificial. It's only enforced that way through its community. There are no solid barriers in place to stop a random Nutaku editor from changing that idea. Unless you enjoy spending hours reverting changes every time a Nutaku player comes along, anyway.

>>15592932
>But that's also a silly statement to make, because if you are in the latter camp, you have no right to complain when dumb Nutaku players start making Nutaku-specific changes to the Wikia again.

I don't know. Isn't that like saying that you can't complain that someone walked into your house and painted the walls bright orange just because you didn't put a Private Residence sign on your lawn?

I don't feel that there's any need to mark anything one way or the other. The Wikia contains content that doesn't exist in the Nutaku version. It's a DMM version wiki. It could probably stand to be stated on the main page (I don't think it is), but just because it's not doesn't give a Nutaku version enthusiast carte blanche to overhaul the whole thing, right?

>>15592887
Well, the "fuck off" thing is an exaggeration. It was more like "this is the wiki for DMM-specific information, go here for Nutaku-specific information", with a link to the EN wiki. This also had the advantage of preventing Nutaku players from making unnecessary edits.

In any case, my point is that a "Lily-of-the-Valley is known as Convallaria on Nutaku" line has the same merit as, say, a "Lavender has "distrust" as one of her flower meanings, explaining her yandere tendencies" line. It's good that the information is there, but the information in itself is not essential.

>>15592957
>has the same merit as, say, a "Lavender has "distrust" as one of her flower meanings, explaining her yandere tendencies" line
No, its not same merit. Flower meaning is more or less established in masses thing, while nutaku retarded """names""" is just something some cretin made up on his own and is zero value for anyone.

>>15592955
Let's be honest. The stats, the skills, most of that fluff is non-essential information to most Wikia users, regardless of which version they were from.

A more proper wiki would include a footnote somewhere of when and what buffs took place. Then at least a Nutaku player would know how out-of-date their version was, or something.

But most people use the Wiki for character and event information, and maybe some things that the EN wiki can't provide, like dialogue translations. Since Nutaku is actually following DMM's event schedule, there is a clear overlap. So a footnote here and there about those trivial Nutaku vs. DMM differences isn't going to kill anyone's use of the site.

>>15592986
I meant more that it contains information on units and missions (like nation missions) that simply don't exist on the Nutaku version.

I guess I'm underestimating human stupidity. Vastly, apparently.

>>15592996
>I guess I'm underestimating human stupidity. Vastly, apparently.

By which I mean apparently this escapes people before they make insane edits to a wiki. Should probably not hit Post so fast and leave room for misinterpretation.

>>15592996
Well, Nutaku will get those in due time. And again, once that happens, there's nothing stopping a Nutaku player from making edits based on outdated information.

Hell, there's nothing stopping people from adding Nutaku-specific information like "we only get this much boost from affection, not that much" or whatever.

But as far as I can tell, most Nutaku players use the Wikia to answer:
-Whose event is next, what color type are they, what gift do they like?
-Which girls are coming up in the gacha, which ones do I want to save FGs for?

As it is, the Wikia doesn't answer much else for Nutaku players, either because it doesn't exist on Nutaku's server, or a page/section doesn't exist for it on the Wiki. That could change down the line.

>>15593018
Well, there's nothing preventing a regular old asshole from replacing all pictures on the site with horses either. "People can do X, so you should do X before they do" isn't a good argument.

Still, I don't see any harm in adding a "on this date, the affection bonus was changed from this value to that value" line to the trivia section (the JP wiki already has that information, by the way). Not particularly essential or high-priority, but not unnecessary either.

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>>15592514
Hello Vilenia

>>15594021
How fucking cancerous.
Nutaku was a mistake.

>>15594021
It's for people like this that Nutaku does shit believing it's ok.

>>15594098
At least the FKG management realizes it's not alright.

Well, other than constantly shortchanging their users on the flower campaigns. They had none of the four or so batches of 14 flower stones that should've given away by now, and their "compensation" for the whole bride saga is what the average DMM player gets for free in a normal week.

But I guess that can also be improved in time.

>>15594161
Nutaku is still a group of jews, we can't really expect to see more than that.
By far better than the shit we got with Aigis though.

>>15594189
>Aigis
Don't fucking remind me. We aren't getting any events for fucking month.

>>15594229
Meanwhile, DMM is getting 35 events in a month.

Dev Tea at its finest.

>>15594229
>We
Speak for yourself.

>>15594268
Stop being toix, shill-kun

>>15578748
fuck

>>15594268
NutakuDev, your personal test builds don't count.

>>15594268
This reminds me about these guys saying they are making their own events during the breaks.
The Nutaku community can be really sad sometimes.

>>15594385
Buyer's remorse is very strong on normalfags

How does the guaranteed plat+ ticket work in Aegis? Is it used as soon as I take it out of the gift box? Can I save it until a spotlight with a unit I want?

>>15594887
It has no spotlights, I think. Just flat 85% plat, 15% black chances, randomized between all currently available units.

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>>15594991
Damn, so no way to roll for revival characters with it? I've lost count to how many SCs I wasted trying to roll Agnes, stupid sexy necromancer just won't join my team

>>15595007
All available characters as in every gacha-obtainable plat/black in the game, so older characters should be in it.

I'm only in it for the 15% black chance, though. Plats don't interest me until I get one, I'm not even raising Elizabeth right now.

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Good enuff, I guess.

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>>15595022
>Plats don't interest me until I get one, I'm not even raising Elizabeth right now.
I know how you feel. Don't have the resources to raise these fine gacha ladies myself

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>>15595042
>Towa & Saria
Congrats, you pulled the most broken units in their class. I recommend awakening Towa as soon as you can, Haste is seriously strong

>>15595042
Fuck you. I rolled 20 times and the only one platium i got is Zenobia when i already have Aria, 11 cost Katie and Lieselotte

>>15595042
Expectation: 2 plats
Reality: 3 plats, 2 blacks
More than good enough.

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>>15595057
The haste is there since before AW, AW improves her area slow, I believe.

>>15595106
AW improves haste.

>>15595106
>>15595347
AW improves her haste, which is her black passive.
The slow is improved in AW too because that's her class passive.

>>15592440
I always thought that it was on purpose, like a way of saying thanks for starting the game from the begining with us, here take some good event units and then the events start to give worse units.

I just got my first 6 star flower knight, didn't even p2w

>all these people on Facebook complaining they didn't get Lechenaultia despite getting all the medals

This is Nutaku's playerbase.

>>15595802
I really wish you hadn't mentioned this.

>>15595578
Who's the lucky girl?

>>15595802
This is also why you shouldn't be too hard on Nutaku.

They have to deal with this shit everyday. It's the kind of purgatory otherwise reserved only for IT employees.

>>15595831
Enishida, the new girl (Scotch Broom)

>>15595802
I don't play FKG so dunno how it works, whats wrong with it?

>>15595892
Oh, congratulations. She's both very cute and has the prized skill up ability, there were a whole bunch of comments over on the JP wiki saying that she was their next target for "pick your rainbow" tickets.

She's also one of these girls that give a preview of things to come, we may have a witch-focused event featuring her, Nigella and Artemisia (who is evidently distinct from Yomogi, the event archer who is themed around the "Artemis" part of Artemisia and should probably be called Mugwort now) in the future.

My personal hope is still for potential yuri with broomrape, though.

>>15595911
It's an event where you farm tickets for the prize girl. This has been stated as clearly as possible in the game.

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>>15595802
Do you think that's bad?
How about this one?
This is exactly why we can't have good things on Nutaku.
Also most of them are whales, just saying.

Why are all the Helper teams coming up on my page lower power that my weakest team?

>>15597051
Displayed team strengths do not account for affection bonuses, so they tend to look weaker even if they're much stronger than your team. A 95k assist, for example, is in fact probably 150k+ in reality. Also note that helper levels are capped to the highest-level girl you have, so if they're actually level 70 and your strongest girl is level 60, they will be further constrained.

Also, looks like Broom mentions a Clerodendrum/Blue Elfin girl too. Another knight to look out for during the upcoming broadcast, alongside Kalmia (mentioned by Satsuki) and some others.

>>15597086
Even if the numbers don't reflect the bonuses, do the actual teams still have them? And what about ampy bonuses?

>>15597099
Yes, yes and yes to equipment too.

>>15597104
Right, equipment, too. Okay, thanks. Teams did seem strong enough to have those things, but I had never heard one way or the other. I appreciate it.

Now if only they'd update them with the evolution icons, too, so I know which teams to stop using at a glance...

>>15595831
>It's the kind of purgatory otherwise reserved only for IT employees.
I remember shit like this. Still haunts me. I've been called to "broken computers" where the user "didn't see anything on the screen". Turned out that the monitor wasn't connected to the PC (whole fucking cable was missing) or the PC wasn't turned on. This is the typical facebook user mentality.

>>15586085

For those interested, here is the website of this game's creators:

http://www.kinkoid.com/

Apparently it's a 4 man company located in France.

Barring any unexpected maintenance extensions, when do the DMM Aigis servers usually come back up? 13:00 Japan time, or later than that? Looks like it was 15:00 last week, but I have 13:00 in my head for some reason.

>>15598293
15:00.

>>15598312
Meh. I won't be staying up until 2 AM Eastern then. Got work tomorrow. Thanks.

Wow, I almost regret evolving my Cosmos. Her evolution art is horrible.

>>15598737
If you're on DMM, there's a toggle on the character tab that lets you change skins between evolved, non-evolved and second evolved art.

You can also switch your secretary to her pre-evolved art on both sides.

>>15586085
That art isn't awful? Geez how bad is the other art.

Also
>Original story embedded in manga culture
wtf is this even supposed to mean? This reminds me of western dating sims touting themselves as having "anime grafix".

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>>15598821
>how bad is the other art
Do you really want to know?

>This reminds me of western dating sims touting themselves as having "anime grafix".
This is because that's what it is. Half that and half Chinese "play Bleach online" knock-offs, the worst of both worlds.

Nutaku should be ashamed to have this shit alongside games like Aigis and FKG.

>>15598937
>Nutaku should be ashamed to have this shit alongside games like Aigis and FKG
I've been wondering about this too. It's really obvious how shitty Nutaku is, so why are some of you guys still playing there?
Just purely because the game is in English?

>>15598990
Most people play there because the game is in English, and also because they don't know better. The average Nutaku player isn't aware that DMM exists and believes that Nutaku staff produces all these games by themselves.

As for this thread, I have no idea. FKG at least is managed competently (though it's still overshadowed by how excellent the DMM team is to their users), but it's not really possible to justify playing EN Aigis when it gets one event a month and DMM gets over thirty.

Sunk cost, probably.

>>15599010
I play it for same reason I play nutaku FKG, because it's translated. Even if sometimes it's not the best translation, it's nice to see it in english. Yeah I can go to ulmf and see translations of current events but it's nice to just see it actually in the game. I don't pay for anything in either game though.

I think for some others as well, they just can't get past playing a game on DMM. Even if it's really easy, they just HAVE to play their games in english or they can't play it. And those are the types in this thread that I figure keep playing and focusing on it.

>>15599010
I'm playing Nutaku Aigis for drama every weeks.
It never fail to disappoint me

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>Iron Rarity only
>No Irons, Just Roys
>No Roys allowed

It just started and I'm already fucked.

>>15598990
>>15599010
I have friends that were already playing the nutaku version when I started, and perhaps most importantly, there's so many girls in the DMM version by now that it feels a bit overwhelming. I'd rather start with a smaller number and be there as they parcel them out rather than start with a ton.

Also, yeah it's at least partly because it's in English, and I'm pretty lazy when it comes to games. I can read moon fairly well, but it makes it a bit more of a drag and less fun, which is not what I want in a browser game. It's why I stopped playing tourabu.

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Nabbed Supura from crystal frags, then decided to do 1 pull, and....

nice.

>>15599087
I hate you.

>>15599074
I'm training up irons as we speak.

Shouldn't take too long, eastern+ maps already feature level 26+ units and you only have to CR once and reach level 30.

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Iron only*

>>15599136
that map is bullshit
Thank fuck for awakened Spica buffing iron archers or I'd need to micromanage a lot
Alternatively I guess I could use Altia and spam auto-retreating iron soldiers

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What a spooky majin map, and I have no leveled vampire hunters

Do Majin maps give SCs when 3-starred? I never paid attention to that before

>>15599136
This shit should be prohibited

>>15599486
Altia's thing only works when she's on the map, unfortunately. They'll get the 15% HP which is around 137 or so, not a tiny amount.
Iron samurai seems to work pretty well to cover that spot. Though seriously fuck that wizard

>>15599508
The 3* rewards are platinum armors, except lv.5 and 10 give black armors, and 11-15 are rainbow fairies.

>>15599010
The reason I started on Nutaku and not DMM is cause its in english, DMMs version is not nor ever will be a consideration.

The reason I still play is stockholm syndrome.

Is there a wiki that has the all-ages versions of aigis character events? Can be in japanese, of course

>today's gold rush map
It begins.

I accidently clicked my way to nutaku's home page, which I haven't seen in a very long time. Holy shit what a fucking mess. So many pictures being thrown at you, as a new user how would you even determine where to begin?

>>15600380
I accidentally clicked through the dialogue too fast, why is there a horned Anna(I think?)

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>Metus: "Darling. Today I came with something important to tell you. Calm down, and listen, OK?"
>calm down and listen
Did Prince attempt to molest her as soon as she entered his room? Also
>Darling
that was cute

>>15600443
Not Anna, new oni princess that we're probably getting later on because the oni ninja himself was too good for the Prince's harem.

Probably not a princess class despite being called one?

>>15600572
Sounds like black unit material with item-farming event to gather powers for her to defeat her evil oni-ninja father
And we already have two black ninjas, so she's probably something else. Just speculating

DMM game マジカルウィッチストーリーズ announced termination of service after only 2 months since opening.
Remember guys, never invest in games with uncertain future.

>>15600636
I wanted to try that one but the tutorial mission was crashing for people for days on end after launch.

I'm not the least bit surprised it's already on the way out.

>>15600636
looks pretty boring
What was it about?

Someone help me with these moonrunes, what do I have to do to run the first gold rush mission?

>>15601364
>>15599074

>>15601372
Oh... Well fuck that shit. I don't have the resources or inventory space as a new player to go out of my way to level iron units for one map.

>>15601398
If you're at the point where you at least have Castle Retake unlocked you're able to do it with the base level of irons you get from around that charisma cost easily. It's probably worth it for a guaranteed Princess too.

>>15601414
Guaranteed princess you say? Now I'm interested.

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>>15601422
Its the most unfortunate princess though

>>15601434
I figured as much :|

Still I'd like to have a magic damage duelist available to me.

so between this 2 nutaku´s game which one is better to start to play
>peropero seduction
>dragon providence

is anybody playing "harem collector"?
>no events
>shitty cheap copies of anime/games character
0 future proof

>>15601848
>peropero
No
>dragon providence
Only play if you like group PVP battles where the guild with more whales wins.

>>15600443
The saturday morning cartoon villains got a new boss that's above their ranks now. I'll say this is a sneak peek to an upcoming character that we could obtain.

>>15602126
But they will let us have the elite ninjas?...I think that each one can dress of a certain color, put their mask and be named "-insert villanous name group- of the 5 shinobis"

>>15601848
>is anybody playing "harem collector"?

I kinda am. It's ok as a thing you alt tab to when you're doing other stuff. Doesn't seem worth it to spend money there so far, though.

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Should I aim for S-Legend card?
I'm free player, burned most of these SCs on refills to mincost all plat/gold units from daily revivals. Now that I have them mincosted, I don't have any worthy way of spending remaining 100 SCs to S-Legend, so its either refills for resources (DC/gold/unit exp) or gacha.
I think I'll do 50 to Legend anyway, but then S-Legend offers 10 more free SCs, so its gold/plat/black bond fairies and black armor for 40 SC spent.

>>15602641
Some would say that if you can offer for S-Legend, why not save that 100 SC, get another 50 SC and get Legend again next month?

>>15602641
S Legend is actually 100 beyond Legend, so it's more like 90 spent.

I'd save it.

Interesting that the slant eyed dumbfucks put Nutaku so behind on balance updates in some areas that Spica is actually garbage on the crystal daily unless she's AW80+. Why roll out enemy balance updates when unit updates are over a year behind them?

>>15602690
>S Legend is actually 100 beyond Legend
Oh. Then fuck it, I'm certainly not spending 100 more for it, will go with just legend.

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>>15602710
Yeah, I just recently found that out for myself. If you find yourself in that position and actually have the crystals, just do what >>15602675 said.

>>15601398
watch the video on youtube, the guy probably sortied 4 maps for the units he used to clear it, lvl1s and shit were used too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xA39Tm19WA

there is only one iron only map, right? i can get rid of them after i get everything from it

>>15603329
Till next event, yes.
There's also "imperial units only" again.

So which aigis do most of /jp/ plays?
I'm currently playing both and try to assess them.
Choosing to play either lack of moon knowledge and lel no events is difficult.

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Kill me
I feel like crying

>>15603495
Junon, Bernice and gold fen-shui are pretty good.

>>15603515
both Bernice and gold fen-shui are duplicates, and I have the fox-tail platinum event fen-shui anyway
Is Junon worth AWing for her ability? I mean, she's a rogue

>>15603520
Junon increases drop rate of silver non-material units. If you really want particularly rare silver drops like Dwight or Mao then by all means.

>>15603520
Yes, she's great for when that specific silver is being an ass about being needed as material for every other AW unit Archers and Gold Rushes. She's also actually surprisingly strong for a Rogue, especially with her AW Skill.

>>15599136
Iron pirates work best I think.

>>15603495
Is the gold summoner good?

>>15603992
If I recall right her AW pretty much has her skill up indefinitely. Which is nice. But as a gold I'm sure her up and down time isn't the best.

But I have Farune so it's an unfair comparison.

>>15603992
>>15604098
I don't have her but what has been said before is that the problem with her perma uptime is it makes the initial wait time like 50 seconds, which is too long.

>>15603357
>imperial units again
Interestingly I've already got myself a working white empire team, all of them CC'ed. Dwight at -2. Everyone else except Leona is min-costed.

So what are you guys expecting out of the popularity gacha? Mythical Slice gacha rates or just plain rates and fuck it?

Or perhaps you guys woke up full of optimism and expect generous rates for the three winners for a real apology?

>>15604315
I quit and play on DMM instead.
One rainbow and few golds so far

>>15604315
Just plain rates as usual

Nutaku FKG is up, any bold soul wanna try the gacha?

>>15604556
>increased drop chance

Yes, sure.
Burned 100 gems trying to get Iris and instead i've got Peach, Gerbera and Lily.
Not even sure how am i supposed to feel about it.

Phase 2 is up on Nutaku for some reason as well.
Are we speeding up?

>>15604589
No just devs fucking up.
Still free gems are free.

>>15604589
What game?

>>15604601
FKG

What do you know, I screwed up the ?-8 out of my third team not having enough power against that early boss. I'm going to get screwed if I don't start getting Gacha units at this rate, aren't I?

>>15604315
100 gems.

Did two single rolls and got bronze.

Said fuck it and went back to lim 1. Also nothing but bronze and worst silver Cyani.

Fuck my life.

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It was a mistery after all.

>>15604749
So a crappy translator/localizator has been ousted? Good for those mad enough to still be playing Hitsuji I guess.

Today's gold rush is pretty challenging. Be careful how you use your healers.

Anyone here Play Devil's Carnival?

>>15604825
For FKG, whose event is the first that drops event equipment?

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>>15604903
No, I'm talking about the DMM game that's only in wapanese at the moment.
Here's a pic of one of the cards from it.

>>15604903
I think it was the halloween one.

>>15604903
>>15604941
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you.

>>15605016
Yeah, I'm not sure whose event that exactly is.

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Lv 21 prince here.
Just got Azami on first try on first daily map.
Is she a good unit? Can she be dropped again on the same map?

>>15605083
All event drops are guaranteed first time (except gold rush). She can drop again on same map but will be really low chance on first map.

For starting out she might be helpful but don't invest too much in her, there are better ninjas that you can get later. She might help you for a little bit though until you can get more situated.

>>15605083
>Is she a good unit?
Nope, she is not a really good ninja at all, even after the buff.
If you are new, you can try your luck with the gold rush, you can get some really useful units (gold ones) from there, I'ts not necesary to 3* them, just get all drops.
As for Azami and other daily event units, remember that those are daily revivals that will cycle constantly, while the gold rush (like the one now) only last one week.

>>15604112
>50 seconds
I feel like Farune's initial 5 sec(?) wait after SAW makes her much hard to use, 50 seconds is bullshit. I'd say only viable in subjugation maps

>>15605302
>I'd say only viable in subjugation maps
Not really...I SA her a long time ago and after seeing her doing nothing in the maps, decided the same, she will be good in subjugation maps...figured I was wrong too, her att although high, can't compare that much with a dedicated mage, wich at the same time have more range than her.
I wish they reduce a little that initial skill cost, because for 15 points more, you can deploy a mage and do better.

Suddenly, new character quests on Nutaku FKG out of fucking nowhere.

Oh, and unsurprisingly, popularity contest gacha turned out to be a normal spotlight machine.

>>15605173
>can only use Iron unit on first map
I'm gonna pass up this map for sure.

>>15605683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAF-zVwld58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xA39Tm19WA

It's extremely easy, takes maybe 80 charisma to get the units to clear it.

Well, Nutaku released a new blog:
http://www.nutaku.net/blog/nutaku-launches-2-million-adult-gaming-investment-fund/

Here are some quotes:
>Nutaku has received a major investment from an outside partner which will allow us to take our project to the next level
I wonder from whom and why.

>We are now actively soliciting proposals from development studios who are working on adult projects or considering including adult content in their current titles
I wonder how discerning they are being. Shall we look forward to more games like Harem Heroes?

>we’re already in contact with talented developers who are funding projects through Patreon or other nontraditional means, and we’re confident that this infusion of capital can be used to bring the quality of upcoming games to a level where players will be clamoring to play them
I look forward to Breeding Season 2.0

>If you have a promising demo, a solid game portfolio, or an already-successful title that was forced to cut content due to censorship, contact us at [email protected]
I do have to say that in an ideal world, I would be thrilled about this.

>>15605765
>I wonder from whom and why
Didn't you see a post not too long ago that showed that Nutaku is just a branch of the same company that own porn sites like Brazers?

>>15605777
I must have missed this.
Any link?

>>15605765
Great, 2 million dollars worth of dogshit low quality french games that look like they were drawn by fourteen year olds. It'd be great if they got some quality games but I'm sure they'll just get a bunch of garbage.

>>15605814
I wish they used all that money to hire a large team of competent translators and focus on bringing over japanese titles. I'm sure it'd make more money too, I don't believe anyone plays those garbage western games

>>15605828
Hundreds of thousands of people bought Huniepop. There's a lot of money in shitty games.

>>15605839
Huniepop was still infinitely better than bigbang empire or other similar dogshit we can see in the online section.
Huniepop-tier games are not something I'd want to purchase or even play, but hardly the worst possible case

>>15605839
Please don't bully that semi-decent tile-matching game.
It's better than what a lot of western developers are making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zw2j8O1aAg

>>15605874
This idolshit is going over the line.

>>15605765
>I look forward to Breeding Season 2.0
S-Purple-Tier drama on nutaku would be very fun to watch, indeed.

>>15605874
So is this just another Kancolle clone that manages to play worse than an already horrible game?

>>15605859
Isn't there a Huniepop flash game clone that practically demands money from you to progress meaningfully?

>>15605903
Not like kancolle at all?
Not sure where you got that from.

>>15605903
To elaborate further from: >>15605932
It's another Dragon Providence/Lord of Valkyrie/etc. clone, except it looks a lot prettier.

>>15605965
Kancolle =/= Dragon Providence

>>15605926
There is, saw a few banners on ulmf, but its not hosted on nutaku

>>15605982
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to make clear to: >>15605903

Sorry if I made it confusing. Broke it up into two posts because I realized I didn't really provide any feedback in my first post as to the actual nature of the game he was comparing to KanColle.

>>15605798
Dunno if this is the same as the other anon is reffering to: >>15569220 from the past thread

https://x3guide.com/companies/mindgeek/list/best/page3

>>15606010
>Nutaku will be taking a significant portion of its capital and reinvesting it in the adult game development scene
>Harem Heroes is the last added game on Nutaku
>probably some of these funds has been used for that shit

Money well spent.

>>15606010
Oh wow, thanks for that anon. I must've overlooked it last thread.

>>15605765
Wow, Nutaku is fucking retard. They are still trying to cater to normalfag despite the fact that their money coming from weebo. Even steam is starting to cater to weebo now
fucking idiots

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I knew I was lucky today, my second raimbow after playing since the beggining

>>15605765
I want off of this crazy Nutaku ride. I'm scared now. How did they make it this far?

>>15606159
>Mimosa
All my jealousy.

>>15605765
This is interesting, I hope Nutaku has the prudence to invest into good artists and games instead of awful crap like Silly Girl, InCase, Big Bang Empire and Harem Heroes.

It has the connections to do this, and like >>15606092 said it's about time they realized that most of their userbase isn't interested in poor art.

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I usually don't care about Nukers, but not letting a SB live for even a min or at least let two or three other guys take share is a bit too much, plus he's a repeat offender. Time to start kicking I guess.
Any of you rascals I don't already have want some additional Raid Bosses and a mediocre non-rainbow helper?

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>>15606239
There's virtually no reason to care, you'll soon have 100k+ seeds that you won't ever bother to use. Stop pretending that hitting raid bosses full force is a genuine problem.

I don't get this "kicking people out over fucking nothing" business. Here is the tail end of my list for comparison.

>>15606274
Sure, as I said I don't really care that much. I have some guys with months on my list as well. And this guy's the first I kick.
The thing is, I also have plenty of low level people on my list, and they are the ones that can make use of them.

>>15606239
This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone caring about how a friend assisted in killing a raid boss.

I nuke all the time on DMM.

>>15606332
Nutaku has had zero events that come with equipment and the only way to currently get the better equipment seeds is from seed bearers which he's complaining about being nuked immediately.

>>15606346
Ah, that makes sense, I suppose.
I guess I'm glad I don't play Nutaku FKG.

>>15606332
I was really surprised by people complaining about when their friend list was awake on the dmm wiki during a kill raid bosses event.
Since there's no chat you don't really see those things unless you go look for them.

>>15606388
I honestly don't know why there isn't an option to notify no one after you fail to defeat the raid boss.
Would solve that complaint.

>>15606346
Except for the normal raidbosses which give 60 mid equip seeds, the event raidbosses that give out the same amount of seeds as a seedbearer to those that assist and almost triple for the finder bonus.

Getting a seedbearer is a dissapointment to whoever finds it as it means less seeds total on nutaku unless you kill it yourself thanks to people insisting on keeping them up for multiple hours.

>>15606403
Why would you want to do that?

So... the smartest way to use stones would be the gold guaranteed bonus gachas right?, apart from aiming for a special girl on a spotlight. Or is there any future gacha worth saving them for?

Since the popularity gacha is bollocks as expected.

>>15606474
For nutaku FKG yes, everything else pales in comparison, just gotta wait for it to happen again, I doubt they'll be doing the slice gacha rates again, too many rainbows were gotten during then.

>>15606492
How often do these guaranteed gachas drop on DMM? And when you say for Nutaku, does that mean there are better alternatives there?

>>15606568
If by gold guaranteed gacha you mean getting a gold ticket for a 50 flower gem pull then its happened once on nutaku, not sure how often its happened on DMM. Its best on nutaku for free players, dunno about DMM.

>>15606568
>>15606625
DMM has only one kind of standard gacha, with all bonuses either being given for free (like the guaranteed gold rolls for Christmas and first anniversary, as well as the 7.5% rainbow/92.5% gold ticket that they handed to everyone when it first got implemented) or for 5000 DMM points (guaranteed rainbow campaigns, some of which come with bonus slot flowers). Nutaku's "guaranteed gold ticket" campaign is unique to EN FKG and a definite advantage.

DMM's advantage is that it gives you 2-3 times the amount of flower stones as Nutaku, with a ton of campaigns that hand out stones, fairies, second affection items, dragons, life crystals and so on. This allows you to do 11x rolls very frequently, I just did one this Monday and I'm already back at 33, for example.