Umineko

>>15515574
I see...............

>>15515574
Dlanor pls stop hogging the threads, pls

I feel sorry for all the poor Steam users who will be experiencing Umineko for the first time with the shitty pachinko art.

>>15515590
Do you not like the Iron Maiden?

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>>15515615

I'll buy Umineko on steam once there is a mod or guide out to replace everything with the original/PS3 sprites, voices, etc...

>>15515704
You get original sprites by pushing the button that says "Original Sprites".

>>15515615
>>15515704
I don't see what the problem is, the story and music is still the same which is what really matters, and you don't have to buy it if you already own the original version.

>>15515741
What about the PS3 stuff?

>>15515764
The PS3 stuff is owned by Alchemist which they don't have the rights to; sprites, backgrounds, CGs, and voice acting.

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Erika.

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>>15515774
What about her?

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>>15515807
She's cute.

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>>15515809
Indeed.

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>>15515820

>>15515809
You misspelled cunt

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Will I support R07 in any way if I buy this steam release?

I already read the VN 3 times and the manga once, so this purchase would just be to support R07.

On a side note, did they use the original BGM/SFX? I think the Higu release had removed ones.

>>15515894
At the very least it should show how much interest there is in the series and Ryukishi's work.

I've wanted to read Umineko for a while now, does the Steam release have the old art, voices, and music? I prefer the original art style to what I'm seeing on steam.

>>15515970
>old art
Yeah.
>voices
No. The original VN didn't have any voice either.

>>15515970
It has the option to use the original art, but there's no voice acting.

I want to marry Bernkastel

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>>15515970
You swap between the art at any time by right-clicking, as well as between the English translation and the original Japanese if you really want to. The music is unchanged.

>>15515976
>>15515979
>>15515991
Ok cool. I prefer just reading anyway. Are the backgrounds any different, or are they the same?

Thank you, though. A friend has been recommending this to me for a long time and the pictures I see from skimming /jp/ make me laugh, so no better time to pick it up.

>>15516040
I hope that friend isn't me.

>>15516040
The backgrounds are the same.

>>15516040
As far as I can tell it's identical to the original version with the addition of new sprites and a translation. Supposedly the translation is an improvement from the old one, making it more solvable.

https://forum.rokkenjima.org/t/an-announcement-by-the-witch-hunts-usagitenpura-regarding-uminekos-upcoming-steam-release/380

>>15516040
Snape is the culprit!

Turns out the system0 track doesn't have voices in it like in the original. However, this change was also in the PS3 version and it's directly from Star Trek: First Contact so it's probably a copyright issue.

beato

is a man

and lambda is too

umineko steam boobs best version torrent when?

>>15516617
It's like 20 dollars, just buy it dude. You can't be that poor.

>>15516662
Frig off, fat cat.

>>15516662
it's 20,69€. And there are no voices from ps3 version.

>>15516617
Like, I don't mind you or anyone torrenting the VN. I myself do that everytime with my movies and anime. But, if you really love Ryukishi and want his works to get more space and attention in the west, you really should buy at least a copy for yourself.

I'm gifting Umineko to some of my friends because he deserves that money (even if most part will go to Manga Gamer, since they are localizing it, it doesn't change the fact Ryukishi will be thankful and more than glad to present us more visual novels, just like Manga Gamer and other translation groups will be glad to work in more translations of his works for us.

In short, if you want to make everyone in this circle happy and have a bigger chance of getting the community big enough for them to translate his future works, give them some money for it.

That's how the industry works...

And that's how we teach the damn modest Ryukishi (that is too much of a nice guy) that money actually matters, and not just people reading an enjoying his works all over the world no mattering how they acquire them in first place).

>>15516956
I should really organize my phrases better, what a huge mess.

>>15516956
I'd buy it immediately if it would have voices.
inb4 vocies as overpriced DLC

How do you feel about Moogy-denka's sentiments about Umineko?

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4pov9s/list_23_vns_you_have_decided_against_reading_and/d4ndixi

>Hi, I read the entirety of Umineko as it came out and I feel like I'm being generous when I give it a 4/10. It's a convoluted mess that reads like it was written by a 12 year old. The Japanese fanbase refuses to so much as give Ryuukishi the time of the day nowadays for good reason.

...

>I don't know how the western fanbase continues to put up with Ryuukishi, and I honestly feel that it's damaging to the community as a whole to continue to obsess this much over a single work so long after the fact. The amount of Umineko discussion is one of the reasons people who read untranslated eroge feel so disconnected from the broader western fanbase, and it's not hard to see how stifling this level of obsession can be if you take a step back. This applies to other games as well (Fate and Majikoi, for example) and I suppose to a degree it comes part and parcel with the reality that you guys are exposed to such a tiny slice of what's out there, but when the game in question is something as obviously and majorly flawed as Umineko, I can't help but feel a sense of unease, I guess you could say.

...

>Honestly, I shouldn't have even posted in here. The way I approach the medium as a whole and what I look for out of eroge/VNs are simply too far removed from the western fanbase's to have any sort of meaningful discourse with people using translations, and I accept that. But at the same time, as someone who helped build the community as it is today, I guess I'm unable to fully suppress my irritation at the way it hasn't developed into the ideal I imagined for it over the years.

>>15517024
>reddit
> some literally who
Do people actually care about opinions of others? Or are you just shilling up boats? Either way, piss off. At least the review that compared umineko to a religion was funny

>>15517024
We already discussed that, and the vast majority is calling him an idiot for not even trying to solve Umineko in the first place.

>>15517024
Nice try for a flame bait, samefag.

Go suck Moogy's dick in some other place, you literally asked this same thing some weeks ago in this thread:

boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/15414164/seacatsumineko

For anyone wanting to know the results (the page just got 404), there were some anons who pretty much destroyed his credibility in the thread with facts.

So just ignore this post altogether, he is trying to bait people in here.

>>15517067
I hope you mean
>Umineko is pretty much the closest thing a visual novel will ever get to a legit piece of true literature (in fact, anything Ryukishi write is like a book).
and I really hope that guy was serious, cause the very idea of someone thinking this is so hilarious.

>>15515894
>I think the Higu release had removed ones.
Not the one on Steam. The old Higurashi release had some songs removed, and all of the sound effects were different for some reason, but the Steam release has the ones from the original

And yes, Umineko on Steam has the original music and sound effects

>>15517067
Here is the archived thread and the very same post (what a faggot, he just reposted this in a later thread to see if the results would be any different):

http://archived.moe/jp/thread/15414164/#15465620

>>15517090
Arguments in there about it are pretty solid imo, what is laughable is your opinion in the subject (just who cares about what this guy has to say anyway).

I remember one interesting post from him on fuwaforums (about translation difficulties, where he goes full retard treating KKK from Light as if it was some Nihon Shoki or Genji Monogatari of any sorts, which is not at all), but that was it.

>>15515704
Does anyone started a github on that yet?

>tfw like riddles but aren't good at solving them

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Kinzo is a fucking savage, holy shit.

Ironically, he is the one who always gets burned at the end, but damn!

>>15517674
this is like, one of his best quotes in the whole thing

and he is the character that delivers the most in his dialogue (Kinzo is an absolute boss).

>>15516983
Alchemist owns the voices and they went bankrupt so it's never going to happen.

>>15517720
unless mangamer buy the rights, that is

>>15517720
So who own the voices now? You said the company went bankrupt so it doesn't exist. Did they sell them just before going broke?

>>15517747
And how do you buy thing from a company that doesn't exist anymore?

>>15517674
Kinzo deserved better.

>>15517850
They still own the rights, even after becoming bankrupt.

Alchemist still existed a year ago when mangagamer announced the Steam release. Who knows, something might change.

>>15517850
>So who own the voices now?
Alchemist probably. A company doesn't lose their assets when they file for bankruptcy, unless they sell them

>>15517882
I once heard Umineko was the most expensive PS3 port ever made (All-Star seiyuu cast dubbing hundreds of hours of text probably says enough about it).

I kinda doubt anyone would lay their hands on it unless someone decides to make an anime adaptation or something.

>>15517873
wait, that makes no sense.
First of all: "Upon bankruptcy, a firm will be required to sell all of its assets and pay off all debts. The usual order of debt repayment, in terms of the lender, will be the government, financial institutions, other creditors (i.e. suppliers and utility companies), bondholders, preferred shareholders and, finally, common shareholders."

As you can imagine, if you sell your assets you won't be able to continue your work so firm closes down.

Also: "A bankrupt company's assets are transferred to its creditors. This includes intangible assets such as trademarks, copyrights, and other intellectual property."

So you are saying they went bankrupt, but didn't sell their all assets (like the right to the voices) and somehow become able to continue existing? Then it wouldn't be called a bankruptcy (since they could pay off their debts)

>>15517915
It was a voluntary bankruptcy (prob had no debts, just hadn't any funds)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-05/higurashi-kizuna-gal-gun-game-publisher-alchemist-files-for-bankruptcy/.100681

>>15517674
>Autistic grandchild is obscene to the eye!
>JOOJI is not even a man!
>My daughter Rosa is a whore!
>Moon-chan is a complete analphabetic failure!

NO. FUCKING. MERCY.

This daughterfucker should have his own separated VN title.

>>15518199
Called what, When My Children Cry?

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>>15518289

>>15518320
Why does she wear the crown?

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>>15518289

>>15518323

She's an autistic girl.

>>15518337
For you.

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The PS3ification version is a million times better than the Steam release and the crappy pachinko art desu
It's at full 1080p, which is something that MG can't do for no apparent reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52L7jm06bx0

Like 6 years ago someone started a project to combine the PS3 voices with the original sprites. Does anyone know what became of that?

>>15518699
You can do that, just replace the arc files with the PS3 sprites with the arc files for the original sprites as per what the readme says.

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>tfw you meet another seacat outside of /jp/

>>15518679
>which is something that MG can't do for no apparent reason
I assume it's probably because the original sprites and backgrounds would look fucked if they upscaled them that much. The original backgrounds are 4:3, so they would have to stretch them to make them 1080p

>>15518756
What board? Every time I find a seacat outside of /jp/, it's a Erika shitposter.

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>>15518795
A fairly obscure imageboard dedicated to 'Greenpills' and their enemies, 'Indigopills' that both believe in magic, the Illuminati, etc....
I'm not going to tell you its name though as I don't want to get banned.

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>>15518816
That picture is some Type-Moon tier bullshit

>>15518816
sounds interesting... I guess?

I'm a bit of every pill, if that makes any sense.

>>15518816
Brown Pill looks cool.

>>15518816
So, green pill people are some kind of gary-stu fag?

>>15518859
That's even an old version. I remember seeing those images years ago on /tg/, and they had multiple rows, for things like "Carbon pill" and "Steel pill" for transhumanism bullshit.

>>15516703
It's not about the quality of the work. It's about finally being able to show support for the vn in the west. I bought a copy without any intention to play it.

>>15519016
I have the intention of re-reading it.

People on my facebook group are praising the even better new translation quite a bit.

Seems promising, and I can't wait to read it myself when I have the time.

Are people really complaining about them not including the voices? The PS3 version cost over $60 just for the question arcs. Good luck selling that to anyone outside of Japan (or inside Japan, apparently).

>>15519341
>(or inside Japan, apparently)
The first one sold over 30 000 copies, which is pretty good as far as VNs go

The price is pretty standard for a non-doujin VN as well. Rewrite+, for instance, costs ￥8 800, which is around $85

>>15519341
To me it's a novel first, so voices and nicer art is just a bonus. I read it just fine with the original assets and enjoyed it.

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>>15519031

The new translation actually turned out well?! Given the MangaGamer's past with Higurashi's translation, I'm surprised quite frankly.

>>15519425
It's witch hunt's translation but improved

>>15519031
I'm curious about what I've heard about Lambda being a potty mouth in the new translation.

>>15519425
Isn't the Steam translation of Higurashi pretty good though?

>>15519440
MangaGamer oversaw the original release of Higurashi in English, which was much more reviled than the current Steam version.

>>15519425
Umineko's Steam translation was handled by much of the old Witch Hunt team, and they went back and fixed a lot of the issues with Chapter 1's foreshadowing to the true culprit and other chapters along with fixing things like Chiester's name

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>>15519031
>my facebook group

Why is it all the Umineko threads seem to bring out the disgusting normies these days?

>>15518679
The only point of the Steam release always was the new translation. Wouldn't be surprised if Ps3 port team took the translated and set it to their version.

>>15519439
That kinda happened, unfortunately.

But besides that, it's A-OK

>>15519461
I'm pretty sure most of the anons in 4chan have a FB account nowadays.

>>15519503
Never have, never will.

>>15519394
Plus the main audio appeal should be the music; some people even prefer it without the voices talking over it.

>>15519561
That would be me.

Even though the voice acting is absolutely god-like, I might say.

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>>15519461
>>15519554
Woah, this anon is off the grid! Way to stick it to the man and defend traditional neet ways!

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>>15519609
>>15519503

>>15519653
I only said the truth, most of the anons do have FB accounts. No need to reply to me as well, on that matter.

Alternatively, you could ask 90% of the people in here to get out, but wouldn't be kinda lonely for ya?

>>15519452
Any other examples of them improving it? All I see is Lambda dropping f-bombs for some reason or another.

>>15519682
Smart foreshadowings in many instances during Episode 1 alone (no news about the other episodes, Umineko is a pretty big VN after all), from what people told me.

Still need to see these by myself and compare to the old translation later.

If nobody do a post about it, I'll give it a try when I have the time.

>>15519682
Characters don't totally speak in a Dynasty Warriors-esque rigid English, and many context clues are given out in a better way. That and a few mannerisms are fixed up for certain characters that don't speak in a perfectly 'normal' speech patterns like Hideyoshi, Jessica, and Ange.

>>15517674
Narratively I liked it because it gave you an insight to each of the characters before you got to know them.
It's something you know Ryukishi really wanted to do.

We knew about this before, but "storehouse" -> "storage room" seems to be the biggest fix so far. You sort of need that one to solve EP1 before reading EP2.

>>15519891
What was the problem with "storehouse"? I can't remember

EP1 ST. All crimes are supposed to be solvable to the reader by the time they're discovered and Battler inspects them and all that. Witch Hunt used "storehouse" to refer to that garden shed thing exclusively, which is wrong.

>>15518679
Everyone in PS3 art looks like some shitty babyface.

I kind of like my bbas to look like bbas. Steam art is wonky but it really isn't all that bad.

>>15519980
Only Krauss.

Krauss is so ugly it makes me want to quote that doctor from the first Bioshock game

I like Dlanor but I must insist that the next thread uses Erika for the OP.

>>15519985
Rudolf and Eva were sexed up, that's all that matters.

>>15519985
At least this isn't an eroge.

>>15520002
Erika is shit and doesn't deserve the OP

>>15520024
I'm actually curious on how Ryukishi would write an erotic approach. Maybe it would be some good content instead of straight smut writing full of moans and cringy lines (99% of all eroge h-scenes ever).

How's the fighting game?

>>15520039
>implying most of the gag-like sounds are eroge moaning lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl4J-1Evgac

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>>15520039
Guess we'll find out when Iwaihime gets translated

>>15520063
I'm implying this is exactly how almost all eroge in existence are written (especially the cringy lines part). Of course many moans could be used in other contexts, I won't and can't deny that, it is a fact.

I know very few eroge that have actually well written erotic content *look at France Shoujo*

>>15520063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegTUX7ON3U
Fuck, this is kind of hot

>>15520071
>semi erotic approach

Didn't read it myself yet, but it seems like our best alternative (Seems to be... lewd enough? I guess?).

>>15520111
The beginning gave me a legit boner. Does this voice actress made any hentai voices?

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>>15520063
>>15520111
Hnng

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https://youtu.be/vbfB1TOEAYA?t=42

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCTzvi64Io

>>15520188
Those first two lines are the fucking best. It's like she's unsuccessfully trying to hold back her craziness.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5e6lk7OjfY

>>15520188
What the fuck are those clips at the end?

>>15520229
You

Any updates on the Umineko PS3 to PC port?

I want to reread it.

>>15520277
1-3 are out, and 4 is in alpha. Nothing else yet.

>>15520210
>an actual cat crying
Genius.

>>15520188
Erika has got a bit mouth.

>>15520287
Good, can't wait.

>>15520316
I'd mouth her bit

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>>15520301
Was it a seacat though?

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Just in case any one missed it last thread, Steam sprites have been ripped and are available here.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzdNfLGacG1rbHZGVjdVc0VfNXc&usp=sharing

>>15520340
This glorious Kinzo. Makes me feel alive.

>>15520340
>Kinzo's eyes
And the people who drew this are supposed to be proffesional artists

>>15520387
>professional artists don't hold a candle to someone people say draws worst than a retarded 10 year old

>>15520406
that moment when Ryukishi's art is better than my own....

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>>15520387
That's more or less how they look in the original though. I think they were trying to replicate it

>>15520227
>Kikuko Inoue moans

l-lewd

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>>15520227

CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED MILF

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>>15520518
Shamefully so.

OH _______

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*skirt lift*
[INCOMPREHENSIBLE MOON SPEAN]

>>15520530
YES, ANON!

>>15520518
I hated the original art of hers.

>>15520535
This is chinese, mars runes, not moon ones.

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What is this face trying to convey? This is the face Kinzo gives baby Ange in her flashback, but I can't tell which emotion it's supposed to be because of his fucking mustache

>>15520568
It's conveying the face of Kinzo. Shut your damn mouth

>>15520568
"Are you a Beatrice?"

>>15517674
>>15520568
What would Kinzo think of Ange after seeing how she turned out in 1998?

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>>15520411
At least you know to draw something...

>>15520610
I would mod Umineko to replace each character's sprite with a drawing from a /seacat/, no matter how good or bad it is.

Battler: 8/20 str
13/20 wis
6/20 int
12/20 dex
18/20 con
16/20 char

>>15520568

>Narrowed eyes
>Furrowed brows
>Curled lips

Are you autistic? Serious question.

I am quoting the picture.

>>15520619
Let's turn this into a thing, seems funny

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>>15520621
For some reason this post reminded me that Battler birthday is this friday.

>>15520568
"I'm going to prank this baby"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hDPIH7WhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OXtIgrFAwU

>>15520619
>Everyone submits lewds
>Umineko becomes a game filled with inexplicable nudists

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>>15520568
I like to think that Kinzo really liked Ange. He even gives her a present on that same page even though it was kind of shitty

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>>15520671
Rifyu already does that with George anyway.

>Krauss is in a space suit
>Magical Gohda Chef juggling Stakes of Puragatory
>Kumasawa replaced with a mackerel
>Every expression of Battler has tears in his eyes

The possibilities are endless.

>>15520686
Dude, what the fuck grandpa.
Not cool yo, not cool

>>15520700
>A fat George
>Every Kinzo sprite has a DESIRE face
>Hideyoshi has no sprite
>Kanon's sprite is a chair

>>15520686
Kinzo really liked Maria, Battler and Ange.
All three were smart. Maria was good but she focused too much on something worthless and was autistic. Battler let something worthless dictate his life. Ange had potential to be great but she also let her past dictate her life until she became free by the end of Umineko.

>>15520700
>>15520716
Jesus I want this now.

If anyone missed it in the last thread, the first chapter of Hotarubi is translated now. Someone should probably upload it to Batoto

https://mega.nz/#F!zcVlzTyD!JI0QG9sVsBSWpZK7Bs7zWw

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>>15520619
Believe me or not, I actually tried pretty hard drawing this one

>>15520724
Did Kinzo ever find out about Maria's occult hobby? Or about how she was better at it than him?

>>15520730
Cute. I mean you, not your drawing

>>15520746
Why do you think he says that she was obscene to the eyes?

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>>15520730
This depiction of Battler really brings out certain qualities.

>>15520754
I'm fucking dying here

>>15520747
I wasn't kidding when I said I my drawings are worst than Ryukishi's...

>>15520754
"Seacats Dancing All-Night" when

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>>15520730

>>15520766
"the creation of Adam " seacats style

>>15520766
>jesus this fucking guy and his small bombs

>>15520619
Somebody do Magical Gohda Chef next, please.

I'm throughly collecting every character sprite you guys draw, can't wait to see the next one.

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>>15520774
I tried

>>15520797
Hm... Without drawing them loses a bit of the... magic.

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>>15520806
I can't draw, I can only edit. and I mostly just do lewd edits.

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......... I just... deleted... my entire draw... accidentally...

>>15520797
Godha needs a chef hat.

>>15520812
Can you give me a naked Maria?

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I gave this idea a try.

And now I feel like saying sorry for this, so--
I'm (not) sorry for this.

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>>15520864
Sure, I'll work on one. Might take a while though.
Also, here.

>>15520916
Fucking genius.

>>15520924
>no :3

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>>15520957

>>15520968
I won't sleep tonight

Nightmare fuel right there, I give you that.

>>15520968
It's like a cross between Griffith and Dlanor.

>>15520968
Now make more Dlanor

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I'm sorry but I'm terrible with colors. I was originally going to draw dark Battler, but I'm stupid >>15520860
Bye.

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>>15520981

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>>15521002

>>15520729
I saw boobs there.

>>15521031
Said the very same thing last thread.

Nice to see someone that cares too.

Can someone make a big image with all of the /seacats/ characters so far (then we can update it little by little afterwards)

>>15521041
Thanks anon.

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>>15520851
>>15520993

>>15521134
That middle ones [good]

>>15520884
>>15520924
>>15520993
These are really cute.
/jp/ can we make this a thing? will Anon really mod Umineko if all the sprites/expressions get drawn?

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Last one from me for the night.

>>15521309
There's 18 people on the island alone, then all the furniture and demons (seven stakes, rabbits), and the witches, and the people of 1998, and more. It's going to take a whole lot of drawings to cover absolutely everyone.

If we want to make drawing a regular thing, we can have a character picked at random every few days or so and have it as a challenge and create a collage of all the submissions.

>>15521348
>It's going to take a whole lot of drawings to cover absolutely everyone.
Not to mention all their facial expressions.
The fact that Ryukishi drew all this is still insane when you start making it yourself.

>>15521348
We could have it as whichever character starts the thread will be the main focus. For instance this thread would be a Dlanor one.
>>15521357
Only the face is changed for the most part; each character has 2-3 main poses.

>>15521365
You still have to draw the expressions. Obviously not redraw the character or poses but it's still a large amount of work.

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>>15520993
I don't like being lazy.

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I tried

>>15521514
Cool. Saved.

Does anyone have any idea on how to fix the audio crackling in the PS3 port? I want to reread it using the port but the audio crackling really kills it and makes it unbearable to play.

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I tried again

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>>15521558
HOLY SHIT.

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>>15521558
And again.

>>15521686
Make Kanon into a duck instead.

>>15521697
But he's furniture. Why a duck?

>>15521514
>>15520916
This one and the gohda one are very funny edits, I liked them a lot

>>15521723
Thanks

>>15521702
It's an old meme. I can't really remember. It was a dialogue between Jessica and Kanon where she said something along the lines of ''no Kanon, you're not a furniture or a duck... you're human'' or something like that.

>>15521736
Wasn't it a turtle (manga adaptation meme)

>>15521755
I don't remember. Like I said, old meme, long ago.
Not even google can help me.

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So, I'm that guy from last thread who is going to make an Umineko stream with my friends, each person dubbing a character or two of their preference.

Thing is, I'm a huge newfag for this kind of stuff. We are using discord to meet up, and twitch for the stream. Can some kind anon explain me more or less just what I should do to make things work decently?

We are planning this for next week or a little after that and just closed our group and the roles.

>>15521736
>>15521755
>>15521770
Yeah guys, this is Turtle Kanon meme. It was pretty popular (for a short period of time) in some deviantart stuff and on tumblr posts about Umineko.

But I liked this chair one more, nice job anon.

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>>15521702
He makes a comparison to himself no being able to love as a duck not being able to fly.

>>15521800
> that size difference

Suddenly I want some Cake Jessica x shota Kanon.

What's wrong with the new sprites besides it not looking like the PS3 sprites?

>>15521736
>>15521770
>>15521755
They're both a thing. There's a scene in EP 2 where Kanon compares himself to a duck and gets into an argument with Jessica about it, and then there's the turtle meme the EP 2 mangaka created, since Kanon and the Japanese word for turtle both start with 'ka'. His whole character is so melodramatic it's easy to make fun of.

>>15521810
Krauss is ugly and some boobs are over-inflated as fuck, like Kyrie for example.

Not many were that negative about it in the last thread either. Overall those are pretty nice as well (personally, I don't like some of the aspects chosen, like the little tooth thing in Lambda being too noticeable, orsome facial expressions being kinda lacky).

Main thing though is certainly Krauss. He is undeniably ugly in his sprite. Like he just came from the moon and suffered a lack of oxygen before returning to earth.

So why does Lambda look and act like Satoko if she is actually Takano Miyo?

>>15521991
Young Takano and Satoko are a bit similar, that's it, Lambda is clearly referencing Takano.

>>15521991
Preeeeeety sure she isn't her

According to Umineko no Naku Koro ni Hane or Tsubasa (don't remember which) she is the one "god" who conceived her a miracle

What would you even call the genre of Umineko's OST? Japanese Techno? I'm talking about the battle themes etc. here.

>>15522016
Electronic music, I guess? Besides having specific genres for many of them, Umineko even mixes electronic and classical music altogether sometimes (and a bit of jazz here and there too), so I'm not that sure.

>>15522016
>>15522026
I've never really heard anything like it to be honest, but it's definitely some genre of electronic music. Some of the songs use techno as well, some even use a choir. And then there's all the other kinds of songs in Umineko like Far or Towering Cloud in Summer which I have no idea how to categorize.

>>15521991
I had this theory a long while ago that witches didn't exist and that the reason that Lambda looked like Miyo while acting like Satoko was because of Tohya's broken memories. He used Rika to create Bernkastel but mixed the blond lolis to create Lambda. The basis of this theory was that Battler referenced having read Higurashi in ep 1.
It was a nice theory but it didn't fit with witches existing in Higurashi or Lambda existing before the events of Higurashi to grant Miyo wish. Not to mention that ep 1-2 were stories written by Beatrice and were fictional and not from Battler's viewpoint.

That's when I came to a new realization; Lambda was faking it. Throughout the entire story, Lambda can never be taken seriously unless she acts seriously and drops her facade. She drops that facade in the tea party ep 2 when she tells Beatrice to play more seriously and in ep 4 when she convinces Ange to not play seriously. My theory is that Lambda acts like an airhead because she wants to be closer to Bernkastel. She wants to act like Bernkastel's best friend in a weird sadistic love sort of way.
Just look at it from Bernkastel's point of view. Lambda is the person responsible for the collective negative Rika memories of 100 years of suffering that encompasses her, and she's pretending to be her best friend.
That's having your worst enemy pretending to joke around with the corpse of your best friend to get you to lighten up. It's so fucked up in a way that would only make sense to a witch.

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>>15522723

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>>15522004
>she is the one "god" who conceived her a miracle
Yeah, that's right. She says so in Episode 8's manga as well

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airwrecka

>>15522723
Yes, we know. You always post the same. You don't need write a book of theories to understand that they don't really love each other for real (their relationship is based on control). Maybe they honestly think they are actually in love, people are dumb after all and we don't live with a mirror attached to our forehead to see ourselves being dumb, but it's not true love. They just want to OWN their partner, to posses them and throw it away later. Possessive relationships are condemned to destroy themselves, and that's exactly the kind of game they love the most. They're just two immature kids playing to have a heart. The grass is green, the sky is blue, blah, blah, blah. I'm bored. At least they have fun together.

>>15523051
The expression is hilarious. I like it.

>>15523075
>They just want to OWN their partner, to posses them and throw it away later.
It's more fun that way.

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Are there any games out there that are like the Bernkastel minigame in Episode 8?

>>15523166
Are there any postmodern detective mysteries that exist?

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>>15523300

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>>15523303

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>>15523313

So I only have enough money to buy either Umineko or Muv-Luv on steam,I don't have enough for both and I won't get anymore money for a few months. I've never read either of them before, which one should I get?

>>15523465
>Steam
Don't buy censored VNs ever.

>>15523465
Either one will keep you entertained for quite a while. Personally I prefer Umineko, but that's hardly surprising considering where we are.

>>15523469
>censored
Umineko?

>>15523469
I'm pretty sure they're releasing a patch for it, which restores all the original content. The all-ages version is barely censored anyway, it just skips the sex scenes

>>15523465
Get Umineko first. Just wait with Muv-Luv until Alternative is released, so you can read it right after Unlimited. Alternative is the best part anyway

>>15523539
I think he means Muv-luv. Umineko has nothing to be censored to begin with.

>>15523554
>Umineko has nothing to be censored to begin with.
The PS3 port actually is censored though. Some of the violent descriptions are toned down, and Battler doesn't get drunk at the end of Episode 2, because he's under 20

>>15523598
How do they explain Battler meeting Beatrice then?

>>15523598
>PS3 port
Aren't we talking about the steam release?

>>15523621
Yes, the thing about the PS3 port was more like a fun fact

>>15523610
I'm honestly not sure. It might just be a plot hole, unless I'm missing something

>>15522723
But Bern and Lambda are acting in the entirety of Umineko. They're putting on a show for Featherine.
I think they only really act like 'themselves' at the end when they promise to meet eachother again.

Basically, Umineko is like Cluedo, right? Sure, we were presented with the truth in the end, but there are still other culprits who could have done it. I still like to ponder about other suspects even after the whole Yasu thing. I'd love for there to be game where Gohda or Hideyoshi is the culprit.

>>15523536
>>15523548
Thanks, I think i'm going to get Umineko now and then get Muv-Luv when Alternative is released

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Time for a little questionnaire.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724858
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724858
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724858

And another one.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724868
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724868
http://www.strawpoll.me/10724868

>>15524175
It's hard to choose when you like them all.

>>15524175
ep 5 => ep 3 > ep 7 tea party = ep1 > ep 8 = ep 4 tea party > ep 6 with Erika = ep 4 upon rereading > ep 7=> ep 2 > ep 4 first time reading > ep 6 without Erika

>>15524175
The best:
Ep 7, 5 and 8 (the last one deserves enough recognition for the near perfect epilogue alone)

The Worst:
I have no worst. The 6th was the weakest, but still very well written (specially the stuff about the logic error and the whole frigde brilliance behind it), and the 8th, besides having some shonen battle galore was surprisingly well executed (probably a callback to Higurashi, but way better made and with a coherent context).

I read Umineko as it came out and loved it, but it's been years. I cannot for the life of me remember how EP8 went down after the whole riddles/purple truth/Ange gets angry thing. Were there really that many shonen-like battles between characters? I can't recall anything at all except for goats invading the island or something.

>>15524271
how about you just re-read the manga of EP8 .

>>15524277
Nah, working my way through Umitweak at the moment. Just started on EP2. Love the new sprites and the voices especially.
It's just weird hearing about all these fights I can't remember, even though I read the whole thing years ago.
But sure, if you don't want to tell me I'll find out eventually once I get to EP8 again.

>>15524292
It's just that it's better to re-read it yourself. Also, the manga of EP8 adds a ton of content (canon).

>>15524271
>Were there really that many shonen-like battles between characters?
Pretty much everyone fights the goats for a while, Battler fights Erika, Ange fights Beatrice, Erika fights Beatrice, Lambda and Bern has a fight, Lambda and Featherine fights, Battler and Ange fights Bern, and then they win with the power of friendship. That's just off the top of my head, so I may have forgotten something

So yeah, there's quite a bit near the end

>>15524296
I've been wanting to give the manga a read. Mostly avoided it because I wanted to find the truth myself and I heard the manga laid the truth on a bit thick.
I'll just re-read Umineko with Umitweak and read the manga after each EP I finish.

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>>15523321

That's comfy af senpai

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Quick Higanbana question.

I never actually bullied anyone back in school, so I don't know, but I'm hoping maybe some of you all did. Is bullying other people really that much fun?

>>15524519
Not as much fun as bullying on 4chan.

If we do want to support R07, should we just by umineko merchandise?
Some people just want for him to receive the support directly. That said,I want to by a physical copy of umineko.

>>15524519
Back then it might be, but you will just look back and realize that you're just being a total ass.

>>15524633

You could. You could also write him a letter. In fact, in a way I think he would appreciate that more than if you bought the game. I wrote him a letter a few years ago telling him I was a huge as fuck fan. He wrote me a nice letter back in somewhat mangled english thanking me for giving him moral support and he even included a little doodle of Rika-chan in the corner.

>>15524519
I wouldn't know, because I was just the one getting bullied.

>>15524675
I read somewhere where he mentioned that the artists of the manga adaptations also really appreciate fanmail, even if it's overseas.
It's a small gesture, but it means a whole lot and has more of an impact.

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>umineko is relevant again

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I'm saving all of the /jp/ sprites. Could there be a template size so they're easier to port?

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>>15524519
Ryukishi really does write the best bullies. Even when they're being enormous assholes, you can't help but like them.

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>>15524519
I couldn't imagine it ever being fun. Then again, I got bullied.

>>15524675
That's fantastic! Get that shit framed! Can you post a pic?

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>>15524701
feelsgoodman

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>>15524732
Feels so good.

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>>15524733

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>>15524701

Ougon Musou Kyoku is fun

I'm not very good at it, but it's fun

>>15523708
Battler meeting Beato in Episode 2 is an unreliable narrator trick like episode 5's Shanon and Kanon being on screen together. In that scene the narrator is not Battler. Also the manga reveals one of the game's rules is that anyone can see the golden butterflies 30 minutes prior to their death.

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>desire for ants

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>>15524848
>In that scene the narrator is not Battler
Yes it is

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>>15524887
I thought I had only saved the thumbnail and that it would be small when I posted it. But now I look like a weirdo. Oh geez.

Has anyone gotten any of the Steam Foil Badges yet?

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I bet they paid 6 billion dollarydoos for the pachinko sprites when they could commision that shit to deviantart for a subway sandwich

>>15517024
this guy must be a huge fatass

>>15517674
Kinzo is caring and loves his grandchildren

delet this by all means

>>15524808
It might be the best 2d fighter to ever exist but it has no playerbase

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Hello again. I drew this yesterday at least I tried to do my best ;A;

>>15525123
Better than most of ours
Nice going.

>>15525123
Give him a mustache and a monocle, please.

>>15524987
It really feels like it was made for hardcore fighting gamers, with how complex and skill-based it is.

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>>15525266
...

>>15525439
Dapper as fuck

>>15524718
<good!>

>>15525190
>>15525456
Thank you, you're very kind. See you.

>>15524519
It's a subtle kind of fun. You don't really notice it in the moment. It's a feeling of despise and hatred with barely any actual reasoning. It's not as much fun as it is somehow satisfying.

>>15524929
They probably got it for free.

>>15523598
What are you talking about? I played the Ps3 port and their faces still get bashed in and Battler still drinks absinthe

>>15524675
What was the address you used?

>>15524675
>he even included a little doodle of Rika-chan in the corner.
I'm insanely jealous.

There's a mention in the Higurashi manga that artist love getting moral support from letters by fans. I've always wanted to meet Ryukishi and Dai and tell them ''thank you for being born and making all these interesting stories for me to enjoy'' in a possible corny fashion.

>>15524700
Yeah in the Higurashi manga message at the end of the volume. I love reading those.

>>15525846
>thank you for being born

Dude, I'm itchy all over

>>15525892
Too autistic, huh? I dunno, it's something I've always wanted to do. Either meet him at Comitek or at the October party with a translator by my side.

>>15525803
>Battler still drinks absinthe
No, he doesn't. The scene is almost the same, with him sitting at the table waiting to die, but all the lines about alcohol are removed or changed

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>>15526394

>>15526400
Dlanor is the cutest Umineko.

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>>15526441

We're going through threads like candy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJueMZJbIc

>rerelease with no voices
Oook.

>>15527312

with no voices this was surprisingly disturbing instead of just memetic

>>15527368
Dlanor is quite the mememaker.

>>15527312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfNaaqm8xPU

>no more of this

>>15527391
God, she is such a bitch.

Gotta love to hate her.

>>15524175
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10724858
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10724868
Why all the hate for EP6? I'd say it's my favourite after 5 and 3. I absolutely loved the logic error. Surely it's not as bad as 7 or 4?

>>15527867

I will quote someone from this thread on this:
>>15524256
>The 6th was the weakest, but still very well written (specially the stuff about the logic error and the whole frigde brilliance behind it).

In that case, while it was the weakest/worst, it doesn't mean it was bad.

Also, 4 and 7 were espectacular (these are my favorites instead), not sure what you disliked on those either (maybe the pacing for the 4th).

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>>15527867
EP6 was basically confirmation of the Shkannontrice theory, and it ruined many other people's theories. That's why so many people have Episode 6, and feel that that's where the series really declined.

>>15527923
>Also, 4 and 7 were espectacular (these are my favorites instead), not sure what you disliked on those either (maybe the pacing for the 4th).

4 felt overly long, and the pacing was indeed terrible. I did not enjoy the Ange bits at all, and those are a big part of the novel.
7 also felt very long. I did not mind Will and Leon but the entire Clair story really dragged on and bored me. EP7's tea party however is my favourite part of the entire series, so much is forgiven.

I guess we all have different tastes, and there's nothing wrong with that. I still don't really see what's wrong with EP6 though. Your quote only says "it was the weakest, yet I loved all of these parts", basically. I don't understand why it's the least favourite episode by such a vast majority.

>>15527974
It still astounds me that people believe Shkannontrice is the answer. When did you people stop thinking and just accepted what was handed to you on a plate? Umineko remains unsolved.

>>15527989
Stopped being funny years ago