Rhythm Games Thread

What new/returning features do you guys want to see most for IIDX 24?

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>>15500708

>>15500708
Re-rate The Safari as an 11

i hope they bring back go berzerk

>>15500708
new difficulty scale

>>15500722
The Safari is absolutely not an 11. Hell, it's not even a hard 10. Get on Beat (wild style) is harder than The Safari.

why do people find the safari so difficult

>>15500708
Console release.

>>15500708
goli thighs

>>15500798
It's only difficult with respect to the rest of 7th dan.

Not that it matters, I haven't even passed 6th dan yet.

>>15500700

Is this real?

What does it even say? Sinobuz? Literally what the fuck?

>>15501093
It's real, and yes, Sinobuz, otherwise known as Cinnobutts.

>>15501117

Looks like it'll be DistorteD-esque.

I'm 100% okay with this.

>>15501018
That's true. They should really re-do the dan ranks. Everything from 8th dan up takes a long time to progress through, while everything from 7th kyu to 7th dan is incredibly gentle.

>>15501182
Literally every bemani game has this issue, though.

>>15500700
>>15501093
>>15501117
beatmania 24 ninja gaiden Z

what are some good keyboard stands? preferably one that i can use my pop'n asc as well as my 2dx asc on

>>15501269
They all wobble like shit just buy an adjustable height desk

>>15501018

>tfw passed 6th dan on pendual on AC but can't on copula

>give me a mother-----in break

how do i play ddr properly
it feels like my movements are too big and wasteful which contributes to me tiring out quickly
whenever i see good people playing it's like they stay glued to the middle and move their feet only as much as needed with no unnecessary movements at all

>>15500798
In that case Re-Rate Elisha as a 9 instead of a 10.

>tfw will never own a museca eamuse card

>>15501745

How do they even get those cards? Does Konami physically mail them the cards after they sign up?

>>15500767
This is needed so badly. There's such a huge gap between 10's and 11's, it's not even funny. Playing on console because I'm a scrub; I can clear every 10 on Empress, minus one or two, and I can barely early clear two or three 11s. It's so bad. I'd be happy with the same 20 point scale as DDR.

>>15501730
Elisha H needs to be a 9, A needs to be a 10.

>>15501913
H should be 9 but A as 11 is fine. Super easy song but some parts near the end are a bit too much for 10.

>>15501663
you've got the idea, just put it in to practice

base all your movements around the center square, ideally your feet are as close as possible to the center/the brackets/the other pads so you have minimal travel time

make the lightest steps that you can to preserve energy, sometimes if you're on a shitty arcade cabinet you'll have to make bigger, harder steps

Portal [H] is so much fun. Are there any similar charts? Mainly talking about the fast 123+567 stairs.

>>15502086
symmetry [H]

Hinabita in IIDX when

>>15500708
what more could you add to iidx anyways? it took over 16 releases to get LNs (charge notes) in the game, and Copula just had different CNs that consumed gauge differently.

>>15502297
>what more could you add to iidx anyways
an effects pedal

>>15502297
Replace TT with 2 knobs

>>15502297

Put a crossfader on there like DJ Hero. Now we're talking convoluted shit.

Do you ever need to replace buttons/microswitches for an FP7? If so after how long? I'm using Omrons and the default buttons.

>>15501663
>>15501943
I'm going to build a pad with the inner halves of each panel cut out to avoid this.

>>15502343
Literally this.
Imagine pulling off Mad Mass' sweet crossfade moves from this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TNMPgOBTlA

>>15502321
>DP IIDX with 4 knobs
I want to play this

>>15502419
Unless a switch actually breaks then not really. They're supposed to last for literal years by themselves.

Looking to buy a metal pad, or make my own. How are the precision dance pads? They look like they're a bit too far from the arcade feel for me (no screws?). Can anyone tell me how the feel compares to the arcade? I'll also take any recommended tutorials, since the only one I can remember from back in the day is the one hosted on angelfire.

I'm trying to get back into the game but the arcade near me with the good DDR machine SOLD IT and now some random fuck owns it and I can't play on it anymore. Looking for arcade feel over anything else. Any recs?

>>15503365
Build one.
Nothing else feels close to arcade.
Precision Dance Pads are shit.

>>15502739
w-what?

like

you want to step to the edges of the pad each time you hit an arrow?

why

>>15503365
they're not like the arcade at all but they're very nice

almost feels like cheating because of how ridiculously sensitive it is and how easy it is to move your feet around when the whole top surface is smooth plastic

i have one that they don't make anymore, the ITGX that has pieces of particleboard or something to simulate the brackets/raised parts on a real pad, it helps guide bracketing, i don't think i'd like the pad as much as i do without it

>>15503805
It doesn't look or feel as cool otherwise~
I enjoy the exhaustion~
Seriously though, seeing somebody play like that is far more impressive than seeing somebody hug the brackets.
I know this is 'no bars allowed' logic, but I think there's room for both.

>>15502297
Things I would do.

Replace effector sliders with a touch screen.

Replace red LED title bar with similarly sized screen, and have options to have EX score and/or judgment totals displayed on it instead of the song title.

A tutorial attract mode like in Museca, and have the turntables always make noise in attract mode like in SDVX.

Replays of high scores set on the machine played in attract mode.

Toggle on result screen to show graph of EX accuracy rather than groove gauge (so you can see how long you stayed in AAA range throughout play, for example).

Music visualizer video output or at least as overlays on top of stock videos. If you're not going to bother making a dedicated video, do something that has the visuals respond to the music somehow.

Direct Adjust Mode - Hold down start button as usual to adjust speed settings. There are three categories. Top is Sudden, Middle is Green, Bottom is Lift. Black keys toggle focus up, white keys toggle focus down. Use number pad to directly input desired values.

"Unearned" song folder category. Here's your songs for which you have earned 0 DJP, whether never played or only played on previous games.

Constant Speed as an Easy Assist.

>>15502301
it was shit on museca so i wouldn't want it on iidx either

>>15503990
not museca, beatmania iii

>>15504020
IIIDX

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reminder

Maras K in IIDX when?

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>playing o2jam
>at the end of the song
>sv slows down in last long note
>fucking superspeed in the last second of the note
>"miss"

literally every fucking time

do people think this shit makes their charts good?

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>>15504972
>playing o2jam

Is playing with the controller on your lap a good position or is it bad for your health?

>>15504972
>sv
hi there, osu friend

>>15505088
>playing o2jam
>literally who is he quoting

No need to state the obvious.

>>15505078
as long as your wrists or straight there shouldn't be any issues with it

Anyone else go from headphones to speakers or vice versa?

My timing got a little fucked instantly. Figured it wouldn't be this bad.

do i literally just type " /join ... " for the invite in irc? i tried it but it didn't work

How does he do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpxyxooARA

>>15505971
I used IRC for the last time more than 10 years ago so I don't even know how to contact and enter sows there.

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>>15506104

>everything on this channel

>>15505863
I find my timing is a little better on machines with headphone jacks. Might just be because it blocks out other machines in the arcade.

>>15506242

Do -any- IIDX cabs have headphone jacks?

Comparing my home setup to playing the same songs on cabs i hate how I can't hear everything

>>15506255
Not official but tons of arcades in Japan add headphone jacks to their machines, Pop'n too. Though obviously Konami caught on and now Museca and (I think) SDVX both have jacks built into the cabs.

>try a 12
>hands get sweaty in the middle of the song

Do I really need to bring chalk to the arcades because of this?

>>15506512
Pour baby powder over the machine.

>>15506542
i would bring a small towel to place over the keys when i go to the arcade.

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>/jp/ poster can't pass the 11 wall
>calls himself casual
>YouTuber clears an Expert song in Rock Band
>calls himself a pro gamer

Can we finally admit that Rock Band is harder than IIDX?

>>15502419
I've been using Chinese knockoff switches for nearly a year now, and they're all still working. Can't imagine real Omrons being any worse.

>>15502419

I do, but I have a severe anger issue with these games.

You'll probably be fine though. Maybe clean out the buttons every once in a while but that's it really.

It happened. Didn't play for a long enough interval to make me worse at the game.

might as well buy an FP7 now and start from scratch. Having to practice just to get to your previous level feels awful.

>>15507231
no, it's just that casuals see themselves as pros for being able to pass the hardest on easy games.

Does anybody here have a link for the Samojam client? Been looking for it for a while. (don't need an invite, just the client)

What's the oldest rhythm game?

I know there's a few things that predate Bemani, but what's the first?

I hope Sinobuz brings more Mad Mass IZM*!

>>15508206
I think it was Parappa.

Beatmania may have been the first actual music game though;

>>15508172
>Samojam
Can I just ask how anyone can play this? Not in terms of difficulty, but in that it looks like a bunch of random notes that barely match up with the music. What's the appeal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs5f5W4Yyyk

>>15508223
>barely match up with the music

it matches up pretty well I think

different style of charting from other games though, that's fore sure

Do you guys like Technika or do you call it a meme game too?

>>15508296
Touch screen games are automatically bad.

>>15508296
Touch screen is an automatic meme

>>15502419

I've still been using the default ones that came with the stock FP7. With just the default buttons and omrons do you get the same sound the buttons make in the arcade or do I need to buy sanwas to get that luxury

>>15508629
Only Sanwas will make that delicious arcade clicking sound.

Default buttons are okay if you never had the opportunity to play on an actual cabinet, you may switch buttons anyway since they're of better quality. Not that default's bad to begin with. They're fine.

guys the ddr a us songs are actually fun

>IIDX
Is Shop Name used anywhere else other than the result screen?

>>15508643

>tfw have to spend 100+ dollarydoos for the nice clicky clacky sound

>>15509371
>play stepmania with sanwa buttons
>type on a mechanical keyboard

my life is clacky and it's great

>>15509409
>playing stepmania with keyboard

why not just play LR2 at that point

having a keyboard that can't type 7 simultaenous inputs is an okay excuse

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>>15503256
>>15507252
>>15508629
>>15507231
Thanks for the info,was just paranoid that I'd have to one day take it apart and try to replacehtem.

>>15508701
hinabita is good yes

>>15509880
no i meant hillbilly shoes and MISTER WORLDWIDE

The new scoring system for Lapistoria disgusts me.

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>tfw you finally clear that chart you've been trying to clear for months

What's her name /jp/? For me it was High School Love (Ex)

>>15511044

I played Sigmung (H) about 15-20 times before I finally cleared it. I would yell out out "SIGMUND" before playing it like I was fucking Achilles yelling "Hector" or some shit.

I can clear it pretty regularly now. Still love the song.

Also Detonator (H) was another pain in my dick because it's probably my favorite song in all of IIDX and I couldn't clear it.

Also, for Pop'n, fucking Searching... Hyper. I cannot fucking clear this thing. At all. Ever. I can do 41s and 42s, but this one is out of my reach.

>>15511044
恋はどう?モロ◎波動OK方程式!!

Not really a clear but a SSS in Jubeat.

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>>15511044
Xepher(H)Easy gauge
That part confuses me a lot:http://textage.cc/score/12/xepher.html?1HA04=16~78-82

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Same reason I still can't clear l'amour et la liberte(H) and other 8s from older styles, I need to practice it more.

>>15511499
Songs from older styles tend to be harder.

>>15511044
B4U (bemani for you) another

i never want to hear michael a la mode again

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>>15509622
>having a keyboard that can't type 7 simultaenous inputs

I hate this.

>>15504803
hopefully never
the man is good at playing piano but not composing

>>15512835
This!
It's really unfortunate actually

>>15500700
>Sinobuz

I'll just call it Shinobu then.

>>15511044
Lachryma ADV

>>15511958
B B B B B B BB 4 U

So I just installed my copals and god damn they feel so good.

For one they are absolutely solid. There's no wiggling at all with the knobs now. 0 give.

And the first song I played it felt like lasers (I seriously still don't even know the proper terminology for this shit) were guiding themselves.

I still need to play with the sensitivity a bit because I played Attack on Dwarf and did absolute shit.

I did think they had LEDs though, but apparently they don't. I guess that AC set only.

>>15510427
no you meant hinabita

>>15513314
>I still need to play with the sensitivity a bit because I played Attack on Dwarf and did absolute shit.

either git gud or try 1.5 turns on the knob = 1 turn in bemanitools. That's my personal sweet spot although it of course may vary per person.

>>15513414

I'm just trying to be helpful, man. You do realize different encoders will have different PPRs, right?

I just installed them and started playing. Didn't play more than two songs. Like I said I need to tinker with it. It's not about getting gud.

>>15508792
No, it's just to keep shop records.

>Sinobuz

What is that even supposed to mean?

>>15513793
It means
>shinobies are edgy
>buzz is an edgy sound
>black color is edgy
>zigzaggy font is edgy

>>15513811
Wow what an edgy tryhard series. Glad I dropped it. Don't even care if Copula data leaks.

>>15513823

Unless you dropped it for popn go fuck urself casual

>>15513850
>Casual

You're talking to the best Guitar Hero player in the west coast, pleb. Who's the casual here?

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>>15513893
>guitar hero

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saved for posterity

never forget

>>15513893
how are you supposed to be good at a game with 5 inputs and no judgment scores

>>15514242
how are you supposed to be good at a game where you still get some points if you mistime a note

i'll probably never get to play copula
i don't like this feeling

>>15514264
You gotta believe anon. When edition 34 comes out I doubt Konami will care about extremely outdated old stored data is leaked and hacked.

How do you guys grip the bar in DDR? With your knuckles forwards, to the sides, or backwards?

>>15514341
forwards but I suck at it anyway who cares

>>15514341
On ITG/PIU, backward. On DDR, backward, or sometimes sides because the bar isn't wide enough for my shoulders.

>>15514341
Backwards is the only correct answer

>>15514341
Backwards or sometimes to the sides when it's a lighter song or a song im confident i can breeze through.

>>15514341
i don't cheat

Is there a Pendual skin for LR2?

>>15514264
At least you can play. ;_;

>>15515556
You can play too, if you put your mind soul and heart to it.

I believe in you jp-kun <3

>>15515549
yeah but it's only a playskin.

Just get pendual or wait for copula ac data which will never come

i wish at least one of the four round 1's in LA moved several miles down to san diego. there is literally no reason to have that many locations so close together.

>>15515549

Just use Endless Circulation

>>15515530
2002 called

they want you back

>>15514264

I wanna play Eclale. Doubt it will ever happen.

Just to play the Himouto OP song

on sdvxiii what features/functionality should i have if i have an id and am connected to the server? am i still supposed to be only able to play as a guest? I'm doing this off of what someone else gave me so i really don't know shit

>>15516084
If you don't swipe an eamuse card, or whatever you have that bound to in bemanitools, you're still a guest. Generate a 16-character hex code starting with E004, stick it in a text file, and point tools to it.

>>15516084
Check the forums or IRC.

how are you supposed to get any of the special e-amuse cards? i can barely find info on which ones exist, much less where to buy them.

>>15516176
>>15516183
I had everything, it was just the start of the hex code that i was missing, thanks

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Best lanecover

>>15516396
What are you, fuckin' gay?

>>15516396

>tfw can no longer change lanecovers,notes, add rivals etc

>>15514341
Seems like everybody does backwards.
I did backwards for ages, but then my right wrist started dying to the point where I just couldn't play anymore.
Now I just play nobar.

>>15516537
>tfw you started playing too late to ever change lanecovers,notes, add rivals etc

>>15514145
To be fair the hardest songs in GH are on par with the average hard songs in guitar freaks.

>>15516766
Difficulty doesn't make a game better.

Remember to take a break if you need to!
Generally I find the best time for me is when you stop seeing Dolce as an inspiration, and start seeing him as an antagonist.

>>15516766

I was going to say something like this. AAA all the 12s you want, 5 starring TtFatF is still impressive.

Yeah the skill ceiling is nowhere near almost any game in Bemani, but I believe it still has its place in rhythm gaming.

>>15516811
It really doesn't, though, because it's 80% murdered BEMANI in the west.
'Oh, so it's like guitar hero with a turntable?'
Fuck off

>>15516831

I welcome all rhythm games.

You can be a petty, pedantic little shit all you want about it though.

>>15516831
You have to blame Konami for this, not GH.

>>15516270
By being japanese.

Doesn't DJ Hero's failure tell you iidx could never reach minimum recognition in the whest?

Or did that game fail because it was bad?

>>15517446
I thought DJ TROOPERs' failure is more indicative of that than anything

>>15517446

Game wasn't bad, it was just unpopular. Which is sad because I liked it.

On Sows, I dug up a thread about it. They were shitting all over for several pages. Fast forward to page 10 or so and it turns into "Wow, this game's actually fun" and "How the fuck did you 5 star X? That song's hard as fuck. I can't do [part of song]"

It was actually pretty neat to see.

>>15517564
I see. Never actually played the games, but the game + controller are so cheap I might as well give it a try.

>>15517670
It's ok. It's nice when you want to play IIDX but don't want the stress of having to deal with IIDX.
Scratching is pretty different, though.

>>15517496
I think that they should try one more time now. INFINITAS is popular in fucking Japan, why not on Steam?

>>15518512
Steam hasn't dominated the market in Japan like is has everywhere else.
Beyond that, the Japanese do not give a shit about us, so they're unaware of how dominating it is.

>>15513314

Alright, so after a little fiddling, I found the best feel and performance was with a 1:1 ratio in bemanitools.

If you guys care.

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Is making a pop'n music pad would be hard? I wanna try making one but I don't want shitty one I can't buy any that look like this.

>>15518570

>I can't buy any that look like this.

Yes you can?

http://www.gamo2.com/en/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=249

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>>15518582
>http://www.gamo2.com/en/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=249
Fuck I couldn't find one for last 6 month avaible love and peace upon you bro it's ordered.

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>>15518594
how in the world were you not aware of dj dao?

>>15518618
I'm french and I was looking mostly on french / eu seller.

>>15518646
Are you new to these threads or something? Dj Dao is mentioned like literally every thread.

>>15518760
Yes I'm new I play often but don't hang in communities of players. I used to play a lot of stepmania and DDR but now I wanna try something new with a pad.
I also want to try beatmania but pad are a bit more expensive and it's a bit more techno/electro.

How transferable are Taiko skills from 3DS to an arcade machine/actual drum?

>>15518854
Zilch

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>>15518863

Thought as much. Oh well.

>>15518854
It depends on how you've been playing it. For example, StepMania can have skill transfer to DDR if you're playing with your index fingers on the arrow keys, with each finger simulating a leg/foot. Things like timing, reading, and foot technique (crossovers etc.) can transfer to playing the actual game that way. If you're a faggot that plays C1000 spread, then you're playing a different game.

I don't know the control scheme on the 3DS, but if you alternate hands as you would with the drum sticks, then I'd think you'd have a pretty good head start on the real game.

>>15518901

I'm using two styluses on the touch screen. I've gotten quite a few patterns down and can pass 8*s consistently but I was mainly worried about the layout of the 3DS touch screen vs an actual drum controller.

For now I won't worry about it so much and just focus on getting over that fucking 9* wall.

>>15513893
i can guarantee there's a better guitar hero player than you in this thread who lives on the west coast, pipe down

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>>15516831
>explain sound voltex to a coworker
>so it's like guitar hero?
>y-yeah, i guess

>>15519027

I never really understood how niche Rhythm games were until I tried to explain why playing them was fun to my weeb, neet, and 4chan browsing friends.

>>15519055
I realized it ages ago. At least the community here is larger than ever thanks to maimai and pump.

>tfw still in a niche because IIDX is my main game

>>15518997
I'm not even american. I was just shitposting

>>15519055
Surprisingly people here understand them pretty quickly, everyone here has played PIU, DDR or Dance Maniax at least once.

>>15516537
>>15516631

Just pay the extra 500 or whatever yen it costs that gives you that ability!
^_^

>>15518594

I fucking astonished you didn't even blink at that 90 dollar shipping.

>>15516270
join the sekrit club, there's always at least one Japanese dude who will sell them to you for a little extra of course

>>15517446
I always understood it as being dragged down with the Hero ship thanks to Guitar Hero fucking the entire genre over. It had its audience.

>>15520162

thanks anon, i'll pay for it when i renew my Infinitas subscription! xD

^w^

>>15520631
no prob :)
Just set it, and forget it

until you want to change your settings again again D:

>>15520648

seriously, how are people still able to add rivals without the webui

>>15520656
they aren't.

>>15520664

But I see people posting in the rivals thread all the time, oh well.
I just wanted someone to compare scores with

>>15517446
konami released iidx here way too late (beatmania ps2) and it was quite literally compared to guitar hero by new players and reviewers along with having a shit songlist full of pop covers

also iidx isn't "fun" enough for an american audience, the skill barrier for normal songs is higher than basically everything in guitar hero/rock band

i think if they'd put out a 5k game on ps1 at the height of the original ddr craze they could have had a following

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>>15520481
>join the sekrit club
sows? my bf is a member there but i'm too nervous to ask him for an invite

>>15520674
drop your sows username? we can talk there.

>>15520688
Ask him to send ME an invite then.

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>>15520688
If I can be your bf, I'll give you an invite.
And everything you need to get the game running.

>>15520721
>>15520688
>Being gay

Is that the first rule of being on sows?

>>15520726
Pretty much yeah. Also being a furry helps a lot.

>>15520737
gay and furry, also qualifications to play pop'n

>>15519055

Try explaining US customs at the border why you and 3 friends plan to drive 9 hours from another country just to go to a Round 1

Saying that it was for games along the lines of stuff like DDR was apparently a sufficient answer

>>15520931

Mexican? That sounds rough. How long did you spend were you over here?, if i had to drive that long i'd stay a few days

>>15520701
uhm, okay

/user.php?id=20208

>>15520931
>>15520964
I never had any trouble going to the US for this stuff, when going to san diego i just said "oh yeah just going to San Ysidro to do some shopping"

Only went to LA like twice though, but still had no trouble there (and it was a big ass van full of Mexicans)

>>15520964

Canada, it wasn't anything major or anything but the conversation was just a bit more drawn out than it should have been (how we knew each other, our jobs, why we were driving that far, etc).

We stayed for the long weekend obviously.

>>15520995

Did you stay for at least a few days?

I wouldn't drive 18 hours unless I was getting at least 3 solid days outta playing the games.

>>15521003
I spent $130 over the span of 3 days and I still think I didn't spend enough

>>15508223
Are you the same person who asked me about xenojam

Because samojam is korean only, I speak korean but I got banned when I logged in because American IP

Also literally what are you trying to accomplish asking about this

>>15508223
idk, it seems like they just charted several elements of the song at the same time (lyrics, different instruments)

looks cool honestly except that it's practically unreadable with the giant effects from the target area

>>15508172
Fuck off you dumb nigger

>>15508206
VOS or Canmusic probably

To people who bought an FP7 off gamo2.com,
did they put the item's full price on the package information when shipping it or just the postage cost?

Am I going to have to pay tax for the item+postage, or just the postage?

>>15521459

I think just the postage cost.

I remember some threads ago this was mentioned. I remember thinking it was pretty based of DJ Dao.

So how do you people pronounce "sows"?

I say sows as in "He sows the seeds"

But since people call it "the piggy place" I figured others say sows as in the plurality of a female pig.

FAQ when?

>>15521756
FAQ for what?

>>15521724
it's called bemaniso.ws, so i say sows as in ISOs

>>15521724
it's sows as in female pig plural.

the name comes from Bemani ISO and the fact that the site domain is .ws

>>15520737
I'm a flaming faggot
Please give me a sows invite
.-.

>>15522173
>.-.
I was considering it, but then you added that.

>>15522173
just email corin

Everyone seems to improve much faster than me despite seemingly playing less
Should I just give up already

>>15522293
Sometimes playing constantly can reduce your ability to get better
Give it two days or so and let your motor neurons solidify, then come back and slingshot

>>15522303
Fuck you I won't fall for that again, the last time I took a break I ended up where I was about a year ago

>>15522293
I think daily consistency is more important than fixation on specific improvement, as well as keeping times limited.

I think playing one hour sessions every day of the week would yield more consistent improvement than playing two hours five days of the week. Playing after being worn out won't help.

Not Kaiden, so you may ignore this completely.

>>15522311
Maybe you're not having the results you want because you're being such a negative little shit about it.
Dolce has fun. You can hear him talking to his friends in his videos.
His twitter is filled with uplifting comedy.

>>15521771
The pastebin thing that some anon was doing.

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>>15521362
>Fuck off you dumb nigger
why?

is it possible to change the HI-SPEED thing in iidx into a slider instead of having set intervals

>>15523434
yes

>>15523434
floating hi-speed

enable lift or sudden

press effect when you're changing hi-speed

or literally check remywiki you dumb nigger

>>15522420

Is there some specific question you need answered?
Most of the stuff in here is pretty common knowledge and a few useful links to basic sites

>>15518854
Pretty good as long as you don't cheat by using more than 2 inputs at the same time (like osu by playing with 4 keys).

>>15523587
Should I keep on with LR 2 or try to get and set up ac data. I'm not really sure where I should be starting from.

>>15523881
>or try to get and set up ac data.
Might as well, considering premium free's a thing.

>>15523881
if you already have ac data and access to a pcbid do it

>>15523922
I don't have any ac data but I'm sure it can't be that hard to come into one of the IIDXs

>>15523928
You can find Tricoro on BCG if you have an account there. You can easily find PS2 Isos of IIDX but it's very outdated.

Also, Bemanigirl leaked Pendual data. But you might as well join the secret club. If new stuff ever comes out, that place is the first (and many times only) place to get it.

>>15524153
I'm not apart of any of the secret clubs I don't really want to suck dicks for a invite

>>15522293
when i last played DDR i could barely pass some 14s, came back yesterday and fucking dominated Possession Challenge.

>>15524153
what's bcg?

>>15524293
Blackcats games. Another private tracker. It's a good one though.

Is there anything wrong with starting to learn IIDX through LR2 and keyboard?

Im from argentina and im getting my first IIDX controller from Djdao.

So excited, can't wait!

What are the general differences between the PS2 IIDX controller and the arcade (or arcade-style)? Are the buttons themselves farther apart on the ASC, or are the buttons just farther from the turntable?

Wondering if it's worth it to buy an ASC when I already have the PS2 version.

>>15524713
the ps2 version has input lag on pc.

>>15524713
Turntable's farther away. It's also larger, and might be elevated more.

Keys are microswitched instead of membranes.

PS2 adapters have input lag, which (depending on your adapter) might be okay as long as it's constant. AC has plenty of input lag anyway.

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I only have 1 USKOC, but I want to try playing DP. Would it be a decent idea to try playing with my USKOC on one hand and a keyboard on the other? I'm a BMS player if that's relevant.

>>15524669
if you're learning on the default LR2 keybinds (like ZSXDCF) then not really, it will get you a decent idea of how to play the game. You should try to get your thumbs on to the keyboard either way though.

>>15524713
ASCs usually have clicky buttons, bigger turntables, and the keys are further apart from the keys.

>>15524723
>>15524768
I just play on my PS2, I don't bother with PC stuff. I'm just that lazy.

For the price of a IIDX ASC, I guess I'll just stick with mine. I'm not nearly good enough at this game to justify spending that much money on it. I like it, but I'd like it a lot more if I didn't suck at it despite practice. I was wondering if an ASC would help, but it's not sounding like it. Guess I'll have to git gud with the con I've got.

>>15524807
there are overjoy BMS players who use the shitty PS2 controllers, they're perfectly fine to play with.

>>15524840
If they're fine to play with why call them shitty? Are they poorly constructed? Do they break easily?

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>>15524867
>>15524867
idk lol

>>15524699
Get two and send one to me, my white friend. I'm from Brazil

>>15524867

They're perfectly fine it's just they're not AC dimensions. I personally played with a USKOC for a few months before getting an FP7 and had to readjust to scratching. But they're fine

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DOLCE btfo

>>15524791
for a BMS player, it doesn't really matter if you have fun, but i couldn't imagine doing it myself. you really need two proper controllers to get a good doubles experience.

>>15524713
the buttons on the ps2 controller are harder to press, don't really feel like you're clearly pressing them, and don't give a good clicking sound. if you're using a JKOC and it hasn't been modded, the buttons can get stuck down too. obviously arcade buttons light up.

turntable is larger on ASC and further from the keys (90mm instead of 70mm from key 2). turntable is larger, and positioned higher up on the controller. the turntable is also elevated (21mm). the US KOC turntable also has a very small amount of input lag compared to the JP one (digital vs analogue), but it isn't really noticeable.

unless you get a very good PS2-USB adapter you can't really play anything with a KOC on PC, and even then, there'll still be some notable lag.

if you're trying to play anything above a 10, i'd recommend getting an ASC.

>>15525232

Who are you quoting

If you're gonna use a KOC, do what I did and superglue pennies under the buttons. Reduces the travel distance and generally feels nicer to play on. It's a cheap mod, sure, but it makes the KOC more fun to play with.
(at least until I can afford an FPS)

>mfw feel like dropping spaghetti when playing SDVX AC
>feel at home when playing IIDX

Strange

>>15526062
IIDX feels weird at first, but then gets comfortable
SDVX starts intuitive and nice, but then gets really weird

>>15523881
Don't bother wasting your time with LR2.
Just get AC data from sows or bemanigurl and never look back, the difference is immense.
Speaking of which, whose dick do I need to suck to get into sows?

>>15526123
Draw some fanart and send on facebook/irc

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l-lewd

>>15526254
>Hyper is too easy while another wrecks me

Fucking x/9/12 songs

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>>15526302
Good thing there's ExHard/Random.
But yeah, at a glance, I don't think there's enough 11s.

Wouldn't it be funny if your IIDX controller became alive and started trying to molest you haha

>>15526254

Is that a giant sashimi?

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>>15526254
>that subtle jiggle

>>15527060

who are you quoting?

>>15527140
I hate this maymay

>>15527208
That mémé hates you

>>15526123
I guess I should find out who to suck off for a sows invite also

>>15524699
How? Do you have someone to bring it for you? Importing it directly is expensive as fuck.

That's why I just bought buttons and enconders for making my own controllers. Sucks to live here.

>>15527929
or you could just go to facebook and send cindy fanart

SDVX was a mistake.

>>15528318
Nigga I don't use facebook

>>15528328
If you can't be bothered to make a one-time account, you probably don't want it that much.

>>15528213
I sent it to someone i know, and then she will bring it to me.

>>15528335
I've never used facebook before and wouldn't know how to send it to them.

>>15528395
use IRC

>>15527929

if your dick is cute you can cum on mayumi

>>15526129
Do you really need a facebook to get a invite?

>>15528469
What's the problem, you can use the throwaway.

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You can use your sudden+ lanecover as the pacemaker background too.

>>15528469
no you can also go to irc and send drawings of cindy or >>15528450
here

>>15528620
Wait, how?

Is this exclusive to 24?

>>15528627
Yeah. It's a new feature in 24.

>>15528620

Did they show off any more new features?

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>>15528660
There's the interface. And a partial songlist (more might show up)

鴉 / L.E.D.-G
Sweet? / livetune
Modular Technology / Sota Fujimori
Music is the Answer / C-Show
Umbrel / Maozon
iViva! / Ryu
Super Rush / kors k
Amazing Mirage / lapix
Beyond the Seven / Nhato
チラチラハラハ / NU-KO
PAPAYAPA BASS / かめりあ ft. ななひら
OTENAMI Hurricane / t+pazolite

>>15528670

Sweet, keep us updated anon

>>15528670
Affection / ni-21

Also I just noticed this is the first time a t+pazolite song showed up in IIDX

>>15528323
SDVX is the best bemani series next to DDR

>かめりあ ft. ななひら
iidx is saved

>>15528670
New C-Show, lapix, Camellia?

hype

Also t+pazolite IIDX debut holy fucking hype my ears are being blue-balled right now in anticipation for it

>>15528670
The interface looks much less edgy than i expected, pretty nice looking actually.

>>15528904
It's primarily black and grey with glowing red accents and a fucking kunai on the left side and you don't think it's edgy?

Still looks good, however.

It's not edgy enough desu. The texts look sterile and the level graphics is uggo

>>15528918
Could have been worse...


You know, like Spada.

>>15526123
As a new player what is this immense difference? They shouldn't play that differently.

>>15528670
>Maozon
cool

>>15529148
LR2 is a pain to play and crashes a lot. The timing windows are wider than IIDX and things like hi-speed are really finicky.

Arcade data is literally the arcade experience at home.

>>15528670
>C-Show
>Maozon
>lapix
>Nhato
>かめりあ feat. ななひら
>t+pazolite
>nekogekidan
>Snail's House

i hope the songs are as good as this lineup cause holy shit

>>15528670
More detailed songlist

[HARD DANCE] Affection / ni-21 (BPM150)
[HiTECH FULLON] Amazing Mirage / lapix (BPM153)
[WORLD] AsiaN distractive / 猫又劇団 (BPM132-157)
[TRANCE] Beyond the Seven / Nhato (BPM142)
[KAWAII FUTURE BASS] Magical / Snail’s House (BPM?)
[TECHNO] Modular Technology / Sota Fujimori (BPM170)
[TURBO FUNK] Music is the Answer / C-Show (BPM 128)
[POP BREAKCORE] OTENAMI Hurricane / t+pazolite (BPM215)
[MONDO GROOVE BASS HOUSE] PAPAYAPA BASS / かめりあ feat. ななひら (BPM147)
[FUTURE BASS] Seize the Day / DJ’TEKINA SOMETHING feat yuyoyuppe (BPM140)
[DANCE MUSIC] Summer / banvox (BPM150)
[HARDTEK] Super Rush / kors k (BPM190)
[J-POP] Sweet Clapper / livetune+ (BPM162)
[HARD TRANCE] TOGAKUSHI / SETUP (BPM152)
[UPLIFTING TRANCE] Umbral / Maozon (BPM?)
[CROSSBREED] 鴉 / L.E.D.-G (BPM190)
[ACIDIA] ちらちら・はらはら / NU-KO (BPM180)
[HYPER ENKA POP] 冬椿 ft. Kanae Asaba / Xceon (BPM155)
[HIP HOP] 焱影 / RoughSkreamZ feat.楽天斎 (BPM 136)
[DRAMATIC WALTZ] 獅子霞麗ノ舞 / Hu∑eR (BPM100)
[TRIBAL HOUSE] ¡Viva! / Ryu (BPM135)

Also, they actually tell you how much DJ points you get after clearing a song too. Pretty neat.

>>15529570
>[HYPER ENKA POP]
is there even any genre konami won't do?

>>15529668

sad happy core

>>15529668
neurofunk

>>15529874
falling apart core

>>15529570
I'm so excited for that Banvox song. It's so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5j543dph4

>>15529570

where my boy USAO at tho

>>15530057
You didn't hear?

USAO is dead :(

>>15530231

What

>>15530002
holy shit that would be fantastic

Does anyone know how many Kaidens there are on eamuse? Is there a total somewhere?

>>15530533

http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/2dx/23/p/ranking/dani.html

scores and ranks are on the official eamuse site
looks like there are about 4700 kaiden

>>15530555

Please don't tell me those 100%s are what I think they are.

It is possible to download songs for Taiko No Tatsujin Portable DX now? PSN is dead so i will not work the official way

>>15529148
Anon you originally replied to here.
The rating scale in Insane BMS is a fucking bitch to get your head around. Difficulties aren't consistent. The only way to fix it up is by using GLAssist, which is entirely in moonrunes. and also just as crashy and unreliable as LR2 itself.
Beyond this, as a new player, the charts in the lower level (and, debatably) higher level songs in LR2 just aren't at the same quality as what Bemani makes. This was the dealbreaker for me. As soon as I got Pendual working on my PC, one of the first things I realized was far better charts and songs.
The entire UI isn't as straightforward. You don't have the option of using BGA in LR2, because if you do, it'll crash even more. Song previews are also out of the question. Not that you lose much, most of the BGAs are just a static image that says 'Sound only...'
High def mods are a pain to get working, and that influences how you play the game because of how long the lane is.
Insane BMS is a 55 gig investment, whereas Pendual is like 35 or something. Just don't waste your time pulling your hair out trying to get an inferior product to work.

Why the fuck do I even fucking play these games.

All they do is make me mad. They're not fun. I'll never be good.

Fuck it all.

>>15530990
Have you tried not playing these games?

>>15531015

They're all I have. I don't even play regular games anymore.

Just these.

>>15531028
Have you tried not playing these games?

>>15531041

I mean, for a day or two, and during the days my FP7 is currently broken and awaiting repairs.

I don't get mad on those days. Maybe a little at Pop'n.

So yeah, I've given it a try.

>>15529668
Brazilian funk.

>try SDVX
>end up playing 7 credits in a row

This alongside IIDX and Jubeat is gonna burn through my wallet

>>15528627
> you can also go to irc and send drawings of cindy

But I don't use IRC, I can't draw and I don't know who is cindy either.

Removed songs

■4th
HIGHER
Jam&Marmalade
■7th
AVE DE RAPINA
■10th
HI SCHOOL DREAM
■GOLD
星をこの手に
■DJT
PROMISE FOR LIFE
■RA
Energy Drive
Let The Track Flow
LIFE SCROLLING
■Lincle
Into the Sunlight
■tricoro
I Know You Know
Breaking Dawn
■SPADA
Atropos
HYENA
into the battlefield
Lighting Shower
Stella Sinistra
御千手メディテーション
幻想系世界修復少女
死神自爆中二妹アイドルももかりん(1歳)
マインド・ゲーム
■PEN
Don't Stop The Music feat.森高千里

>>15531126
congratulations, you discovered the difference between SDVX and IIDX! SDVX is actually enjoyable!

>>15531209

>死神自爆中二妹アイドルももかりん

FUCK YOU

>>15531209
>hyena
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15529668
Vaporwave

>>15531209
>Stella Sinistra
>Osenju Meditation

God fucking damn it

>>15531209
>Jam&Marmalade
FUCK

>>15531209
>stadium songs
what the fuck

>>15531278
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

how do i get good at DDR

my feet always get mixed up on some patterns

>>15531209
>星をこの手に
really like that song..

>>15531317
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15531209
>AVE DE RAPINA
;-;

>>15531209
What the fuck. It's like they only target the good songs.

>>15531532
Same as any other game: keep playing

>>15531209
>into the battlefield
Please be fake. I didn't see it on the pig site

The grip tape's peeling off my FP7 despite not having played in a month, what can I do to preserve it?

>>15530574

Considering RAG has FC'd all the Leggendaria, that's exactly what you think it is

>>15531532
give free footjobs.

>>15531209
>Jam&Marmalade

man if I actually played IIDX I'd be so mad right now

>>15507231
Tfw can't even break the 10 wall

>>15532414
DAO's glue is utter shit

reglue it

>>15532760
I'm still breaking into 9's don't worry

I get B's and C's on nearly everything my accuracy is so shit

>>15532760
Try Crossroad or colorful cookie [h]. Those are some of the easiest 10s.

Speaking of breaking walls, I could only clear bottom tier 12s like invoker or benibotan. Does that count as breaking the 12 wall?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjQFKvelrj0&sns=tw

Is this the best score ever gotten in IIDX?

>>15533291
dolce is inhuman

>>15532760

Play Elisha and pretend you did

>>15533351
No, he's HUMAN SEQUENCER

>>15533291
Clearly autoplay.

>>15533464
The only 10s I've passed are zz, Elisha, and feel the beat

>>15532994
is regular white glue okay

>>15533788
Check the sows thread on DAO's shitty glue, there's discussion on various replacements.

>>15532994
>Make expensive good quality hardware
>Uses shitty glue

For what reason?

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>>15531209
>Jam&Marmalade
>AVE DE RAPINA
>LIFE SCROLLING
>I Know You Know
>Atropos
>Lightning Shower
>マインド・ゲーム

>SDVX gets Mermaid Girl
>mediocre remix and only a 14
More original Ryu mixes fucking when

>>15534251
that 2hu remix is so good though