Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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Can I clear 3-2 with this fleet?

>>15341235
Probably.

>>15341235
Yes.

So what is the bonus furniture from unlocking E-6 before they announced the update anyway?

>>15341219
That's a pretty cute battleship.

>>15341235
No

>>15341235
>CL not flagship
No.

>>15341253
>>15326702

>>15341235
Maybe

>>15341235
Yuubari has 0 plane slots, I hope you noticed the big fat 0. Also do it with 6 DDs like people used to do it.

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>>15341235
>>15341269
>using a CL to clear 3-2

>>15341278
I wouldn't bother. I cleared 3-2 in one try with 6 DDs.

I'm just saying the fleet he's using won't even go anywhere than A.

>>15341284
Right, I get you. I personally believe you should clear 3-2 with Mutsukis to finish off B22 and only have to come back for the 3-2 Abukuma quest.

>>15341235
Even lv1 destroyer can beat 3-2.
You only need B rank unless you are doing some quest.

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Well that was a fucking disaster

Only Yuubari did damage

>>15341301
How bad do you have to be to not even get a cheeky B rank there?

Which is the best map to get in as many tries to farm for Hiryuu?

I was so afraid of 3-2 that I I waited until I had k2 destroyers before I tried to beat it. the hardest part ended up being getting the compass to send me to the boss.

>>15341314
5-2

>>15341307
What did I do wrong?

Only Yuubari actually hit them

Was it just bad rng?

>Time-based RNG

Wake me up when someone figures out the window to do the 1-5 DesDiv6 and DesDiv11 ASW quests, because getting diverted away from the boss node is a pain.

>>15341326
Having all of them at kai and with max firepower and armour would be nice.

>>15341326
Was it red-t or hankousen?

>>15341329
I once got 3 Maruyu in a row with even minutes spacing each craft by 2 hours.

>>15341351
red-t

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>>15329103
I always bully Hoppou for the first 3kills.
Rest of the month while doing the world3 weekly, I put my trust on fastsuck

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>>15341356
What has Conishi created?

>>15341380
Here we go.

>>15341380
I completely forgot about the nip who cracked his computer screen.

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>don't worry about getting sent north
I'm quoting the lying dick that convinced me to use this meme setup last month

>>15341396
>listening to southfags
Just endure it until you get good planes to go north.

>>15341396
>1 AV
>no Hayasui

>>15341380
Does that person who also scrapped her equipment hate Maya. Some of Iowa's equipment goes good on her.

>>15341403
Not him but which ones are the good planes? What do I have to craft?

>>15341396
>no hayasui
Why did you bother?

>>15341405
I wasn't able to get her from the event. does she really drop from 6-4 now?

>>15341411
Some people are just retarded. It's funny because the actual IJN and especially Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force would look down on such behavior.

>>15341421
Yes, but only a madman would farm 6-4.

For the time being 2 CL 1 DD 3 AV will have to do.

>>15341411
It hardly makes an impact if you can't upgrade it.

>>15341416

Good bombers come from stock equipment and quests, not from crafting. Except for Ryuusei Kai, which is pretty good. Getting Souryuu, Hiryuu, Shoukaku, and Zuikaku to K2 and doing their quests will give you the best (obtainable) fighter and one each of the 3 best bombers, which combined with a few Reppuu and Ryuusei Kai is generally adequate.

>>15341436
And if it's upgradeable in the future they just gimped themselves.

>>15341441
Oh okay. But I guess until then I guess I use the best craftable planes.

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>>15341396
>no mizuho
>no fastsuck

>>15341411

I'm pretty he'd have a fit at the suggestion of defiling his pure Japanese cruiser with filthy Allied equipment.

>>15341448

>better send my shitters made of wet paper bags to an extra node with Ta-chan and give them an ammo penalty at the boss

How could southfags be this retarded?

>>15341458
You say that as if Ta can aim.

>>15341396
You're supposed to refresh if that happens to begin with; otherwise, pray for placebo kirakira to actually work and no crits.

>>15341448
>guaranteed routing without using AVs or fastsuck
>truly an accomplishment worth bragging about

>>15341455
Truly we live in a wonderful were we can pick the equipment we want to use because back then opponents would use enemy equipment.

>>15341443
I hope it's sooner rather than later, super charged CV Hime and Wo kai 4 are complete bitches to handle.

>>15341482
>wonderful
wonderful age

>>15341488
You still got "where" wrong.

>>15341458
Ammo penalty?
It matters?

>>15341493
This always happens as I get drunk on Friday nights.
At least I am not an editor.

>>15341429
I didn't get mizuho either and I had to turn chiyoda into a carrier for e-7. I finally got to the boss and almost fucked it up because of red t.

I'm going north next month to finally clear quest b32. how do I get as without reppu kai or shinden kai?

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Are Iowas volleyballs cute?

>>15341495
People wouldn't be taking Fast Suck to E7 otherwise.

>>15341380
You forgot to include the Kuma admiral that sunk his married Mikuma.

>>15341500
Well then you need to get dupe Chitose-class and keep them as AVs.

Also if you go north you have no hope of getting AS if you don't have pasta BBs.

Finally
>reppu
Reppuu

>>15341504
She was needed for E7?

>>15341505
also that one /jp/ poster who sank his poi because he fucked up his repair team somehow.

>>15341505
Got a screenshot or link?

>>15341508
I got roma but I don't have a blueprint to spare for yer. can I do it with pola and 2 seaplane fighters?

>>15341511
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S15308019#p15314019

>>15341504
Yea but we are talking about fucking 3-5 where you can day time S rank it with ease.

>>15341380
After checking various sites like wikia,himeuta, reddit and facebook too see some kuso sink their ship and how they react too this event.

Many people rage, sad, quitting and spewing salty-salty meme because they fail clearing this event or sink their ships.

Most of them advance with taiha ship then blame, RNG, luck even Tanaka for their failure while they dont understand how equipment, formation and combat works.

Yes this game is RNG but we can tip RNG towards our favor with
-using right ship and equipment.
-upgrading equipment and leveling ship.
-understanding how combat works

im glad most of them quitting this game.

>>15341380
No one lamenting having to drop to easy this time?

>>15341520
You don't need AS to clear B32; minimal is AP at F node to not get completed wrecked by bombers. Having Maya would help as well.

>>15341553
The people that did were too focused on Iowa to lament missing a medal.

>>15341586
I think can get 361 air power if I finish quests for iwamoto and reppu 601 and make a seaplane fighter. will that make me too weak to kill the rest of the shit though?

Kawakaze is such a little shit. When I was farming planes last Fall, Kasumi never ever got hit and dodged attacks left and right like a madman while being on the last slot. Yet here Kawakaze, close to her Kai 2 level requirement, in the same situation is getting taiha'd every other run.

>>15341553
Accidentally clearing on easy is way funnier than deliberately doing easy.

>>15341380
Why is the guy who scrapped Iowa there? I mean he didn't go out of his way to get an E-rank to sink a ship.

>>15341614
Nationalistic butthurt is funny too. But yeah it's not as funny as the idiots who intentionally blemish their record.

>>15341601
People cleared this before seaplane fighters existed; you don't need it (though Pola comes with one after you kai her, so you can bring her along as one of the CAs if you still can't get at least up to the AP value at F node with just a CVL reppuu bot).

If you can survive F node, then the boss node is a literal joke and should be easy enough to complete, even with your BBs chuuha'd. Just sparkle your fleet and hope Hoppou doesn't crit you.

>>15341609
There was at least one guy here who did that while farming Harukaze.

>>15341609
>>15341652
http://arch.b4k.co/jp/thread/15262691/#15272773

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>>15341692

>>15341692
This is true, playing tired is never worth it.

>>15340502
>Myoko
>Kongo

Anyway:
>For 1-4 you want to bring a carrier.
Completely untrue. CL/CA fleet is enough. If you stick around and wait until you get a carrier you're just wasting time.

>and at least one battleship
You don't need them. CA from 250/30/200/30 is enough until you unlock 2-4.

Unlocking 2-4-A asap is important because it's the first grinding spot for non-ASW ships and you get pretty good drops off it too. A poor man's 3-2-A, so to speak.

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This weekly, man. I absolutely hate it.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/qqpnem.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/hoistz.webm

Based Tone blowing up Ritou into smithereens. Retaking Wake Island has never been this easier once I figured out how to deal with double Ru and these pesky pillboxes effectively. That being said, 6-5 with the LBAS can't come soon enough.

>>15341741

>using a viewer
>uncompleted one-time quests
>not auto-completing Bw1 at 5-4 or by sparkling expedition fleets

legitimately triggered

>>15341745
How many WG, super daihatsu, and tanks?

>>15341745
>Abukuma
Madman.

>>15341741
The transports is more annoying to me.

>>15341752
I scrapped my Kawakaze long ago so I can't complete that quest. I also refuse to keep Shiratsuyu and Samidare in my fleet. I did nothing wrong.

>>15341753
5 WG, 2 Daihatsu II, 4 Tanks, 2 Ro 44.

>>15341755
ABKM's opening torp is necessary to deal with flagship Ho or the transport.

>>15341760
>hating on Shiratsuyu and Samidare

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>>15341745
MFW easy mode fags will never clear 6-5 because they lacking good LBAS plane

>>15341764
I also refuse to complete the Mikawa quests because the first ones won't let me use Melon instead of Tenryuu.

>>15341745
What do you use to record?

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>>15341768
>6-5 is easy mode with the good land planes
>it becomes the new ranking spot
Be careful what you wish .

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>>15341380

>>15341775
Open Broadcaster Software. Just make sure you update it and fiddle the options.

>807 in day time
Ooshio strong.

>>15341769
Just get rid of Tenryuu once you're done with her.

>>15341781
Torp CI on Yukikaze and Ayanami
God tier AACI setup on fubuki
2 CAV on top spot

>>15341797
It's also easy mode.

>>15341797
>AAFD
>Fubuki
>god tier

>>15341797
Also,
>meme username
>not gensui

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>>15341768
Feels great man.
How can newfags and kusofags even compete? How many G4M do they even have if they did everything at kuso mode? I hope they give us a 4th base so that we can use all of them.

>>15341797
She was one level away from marriage.

>>15341813
Where's the F in AA Director?

>>15341731
in my experience I got sent home every time by nu class in 1-4 until I had my own carrier for as. I also had a hard time clearing 2-4 until I got hiei which got me through on the first try. it may be possible without them, but carrier for 1-4 and battleship for 2-4 definitely made it easy.

>>15341816
3 land bombers, 1 of them being Type 1 and 1 Hien on all easy. 5 land bombers, 4 of them being Type 1 and all 3 interceptors on hard. Ultimately, those who did easy mode will have to work harder in the end.

I feel like top 100 on saiki this month is an impossible dream, hopefully top 500's rewards won't be shit.

>>15341847
I don't know what fleet you were using, but I had no problems with passing the Nu node every time I had to clear 1-4 for someone else. And there's a chance of avoiding both Nu nodes anyway.

I said unlocking 2-4, not clearing it. I find unlocking 2-4-A just about as important as clearing 2-4. And even for clearing you can either use subs, or farm the ships needed to clear 2-4 (Fusou-class + Ise-class + Souryuu) at 2-4-A.

>>15341895
Adding on: the chance of not needing to pass Nu node in 1-4 is 1 in 3.

>>15341745
>how to deal with double Ru

What did you do for that?

>>15341763
>5 WG
>4 tanks

The thought of getting all those just to beat 6-4 makes my dizzy.

>>15341927
Post the number of tanks/daihatsu/seaplane fighters you have.

>>15341934
1/2/2 and 3 WGs

>>15341937
>3 WGs
Already enough.

Almost forgot: are you going to use Akitsushima?

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Have you ever liked a new shipgirl so much that you powerlevel her and only her?

>>15341937
Kamo 2seaplane fighter
1CAV WG42 seaplane
1CA WG42 seaplane
BBV WG42 Zuiun12
2DD Tank/Daihatsu/ducky gun

>>15341943
Have her at level 80, so why not?

Also how did that anon deal with the double ru node?

>>15341951
You have AS, why are you even worried about that node anymore?

>>15341949
>Kamo in flagship spot
lol

>>15341949
>CA
>WG42

>>15341958
Pick your poison, either you use CL with WG42 or CA with sanshiki.

>>15341934
2WG, 1 tank, 1 super daihatsu, 3 daihatsu, 1 Type 2 and another coming as soon as I get another screw, 1 Ro. 44 and another when I level up Pola. How fucked up am I with only 2WG?

>>15341951
CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 WG42 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 seaplane fighters + searchlight (aggro)/flare (accuracy)

or

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 daihatsu (super daihatsu preferred)
DD with 2 WG42 1 tank
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 WG42 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 seaplane fighters + searchlight/flare

or

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
DD with 2 WG42 1 tank
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 zuiun 121 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 seaplane fighters + searchlight/flare

>>15341970
>too many seaplane fighters
Well then. I take it you have Kamo too?

>>15341994
Yes.

>>15341997
CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 tank
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 WG42 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 T2 seaplane fighters + searchlight/flare

or

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 super daihatsu
DD with 2 WG42 1 tank
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 zuiun 12 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 T2 seaplane fighters + searchlight/flare

or

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 zuiun 12 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 T2 seaplane fighters + searchlight/flare

>>15341895
I was probably using destroyers and light cruisers. I definitely remember getting sent home by nu and wo blowing up half my fleet when I did get to the boss node. I beat the new quest on my first try though so I guess levels do matter.

for 2-4 I edited it to clarify that you want a battleship for clearing it. I never had any luck getting a sub from 1-5 at low hq levels so I don't know if that can be considered a reliable way of clearing.

>>15342001
Thanks I'll try these out and see how it goes. I should still have half a year before World 7.

>>15342001
>>15341994

Why not use 3 seaplane fighters on kamo and bring hoteru-chan instead of Fusou?

>>15342004
>I was probably using destroyers and light cruisers.
Should've used CAs instead (with remaining spaces filled up by CLs). They wouldn't get rekt as easily. CAs in particular are key to clearing early maps quickly. It's been known that CAs are good for early game even back when they were useless for late game because artillery spotting didn't exist.

>I beat the new quest on my first try though so I guess levels do matter.
More like modernisation matters. Which it does. The thing is new players don't have the luxury to do so because all the fodder they get has to go towards clearing maps.

>I never had any luck getting a sub from 1-5 at low hq levels
At low HQ levels the most reliable way to get subs is from the multipurpose 250/30/200/30, which gives CAs, CLs, Yukikaze, Shimakaze, I-168, I-58 and I-8.

>so I don't know if that can be considered a reliable way of clearing.
It's reliable and cheap enough that people used it often before artillery spotting, and it's still reliable now.

>>15342024
Fuck, you're right. If you bring 3 seaplane fighters on Kamo then you're guaranteed AS at the boss for last kill, as well as for half the initial kill setups. Then the question becomes what to put on the BB(V) and CAV.

But then again I'm not sure if I want to lose artillery spotting.

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 tank/WG42
DD with 2 gun 1 WG42
BB with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 AP shell/recon plane
CAV with 2 gun 1 WG42/zuiun 12 1 sanshiki

>>15342024
Also >>15342037 is only for the second anon. First anon only has 2 seaplane fighters anyway.

>>15342037

I need to do it myself but only have 2 WG42s, so I'm thinking:

Kamo: 3 seaplane fighters
Hotel: Sanshiki / recon
DD: 2x gun / tank
DD: 2x gun / tank
CAV: Sanshiki / zuiun 12
Yodo: 2x WG42

>>15342024
>>15342037
BBV can use WG42 and they seem the superior choice to both sanshiki and AP shell. 1WG42 is already enough to double attack the boss to death and deal with the pillboxes.

>>15342025
I don't think I had any heavy cruisers until I got to world 2. anyway I still think trying to make a carrier is a good investment since you need a light carrier for 1-5 routing and you definitely want one for world 2.

I wonder if anyone has played the arcade game enough to get a K2. Seems like getting XP would be harder since you can't powerlevel.

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Have you ever hated something with every fiber of your being? Because that's how I feel about 4-5.

Every fucking month this shit happens repeatedly.

>>15342058
I hope you aren't putting Kamo in flagship spot.
>putting both your WG42 on Ooyodo
For what purpose. CAV with 1 WG42 1 sanshiki is more reliable.

>>15342062
It might be good for those with WG42 to throw around, but he doesn't. Also it's not like WG42 on BBV has no drawbacks.
-WG42/zuiun 12 is trash compared to sanshiki/zuiun 12
-WG42/sanshiki on BBV won't let you pass double Ru as easily as hotel with sanshiki/AP shell or sanshiki/recon or even BBV with zuiun 12 given that you get AS or AS+ at that node with kamo

It was probably the best setup on BBV for 6-4 before the seaplane fighters buff, though.

>>15342104
>not going with superior 5BB1CV comp

haha you asked for it

>>15342097
Once you unlock 2-4 which shouldn't take more than a day after you start, then you can worry about 1-5 and getting a CVL.

>>15342104
>CA not in flagship spot
Anyway post equipment setup.

>>15342115
1-5 boss*

Even without CVL you can just send 6 DD/CL to 1-5's first 3 nodes and focus on gaining exp. 1-5 boss is only for clearing EOs and farming subs, but at low levels don't bother farming for subs.

>>15342115
>>15342128
did you really clear up to 2-4 in air denial? 1-4, 2-1, 2-2, and 2-3 all have wo in the boss node, and you need a light carrier for good routing in 2-2 and 2-3.

I've got both Fusous, ABKM and Cranes K2'd, should I remodel Unryuu next or is there a better BP candicate?

Also one more thing:

Until you get your 3rd fleet, first priority is to unlock expedition 5 and spam it. For early game expedition 5 is a lot more important than expedition 2, and expedition 2 is a lot more important than everything that isn't expedition 5.

And once you get your 3rd fleet don't bother with anything else other than 2/5 until you get your 4th fleet, at which point continue doing 2/5 while using your 4th fleet to unlock new expeditions.

>>15342186
Once. It's perfectly possible.

But if you're still worried then farm 1-5 first 3 nodes for Houshou with DD/CL fleet. If you get Chitose/Chiyoda you can put her in flagship spot.

>>15342201

Tones are nice, a SCAMP is nice. A SCAMP on Tone is nice too.

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>>15342244

That hat will never stop being hilarious.

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Anyone mad enough to clear 6-4 on the left side without any WG42s?

>>15342244

Dang it Mitsuki, gimme a Kinugasa version already.

>>15342264
What hat? I didn't notice any.

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Damn it, 4-5. At least give me fodder that I can farm Urakaze guns from.

>>15341380
What's the deal with the @Nx_JPT twitter guy? He sinks ships by pushing on and at the end he only has those 5 left?

>>15341380

No devs fuck ups list?

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>>15342271

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Updated.

>>15341553
We didn't have the mass pre-clear mindless farming like that other event, so accidents were rare. Simply failing to complete the event isn't really qualifying material, although sometimes I've used them to illustrate the nature of the event. There was some space in the bottom left so I tossed in a butthurt representative, but maybe I should replace that with abyss fanart or something.

>>15341614
Iowa's an irreplaceable (probably for a fairly long time) high value ship and the main reward of the event, so scrapping is significant, and rejecting Iowa is the theme of the right side. Iowa trashing was a unique aspect of the event so I highlighted it.

>>15342363
His strategy was to let airstrikes do all the work and reach the boss by letting shitloads of ships die along the way. He was posting screenshots of the runs where the boss was dead.

>>15342366
That's worth a whole separate compilation. The apology post gets the point across.

>>15342406
>Kuma Kuma fleet challenge

?

>>15341614
Scrapping event rewards/drops, be it accidentally or deliberately, has always been included.

>>15341745
>once I figured out how to deal with double Ru and these pesky pillboxes effectively


And how do you do that?

I wanted to sink Iowa too but I'd feel bad killing a kid with autism so she can stay for a while, I guess.

I have already given a blueprint to Abukuma, Shoukaku + Zuikaku, Fusou + Yamashiro, Tone + Chikuma and Choukai.
Who should be next?

>>15342615
Go get Bisko

>>15342615
Unryuu and Ooshio

How good a fleet is this for 6-4?

CA with 2 gun 1 night recon 1 sanshiki
DD with 2 gun 1 daihatsu
DD with 2 gun 1 tank
BB/BBV with 2 gun 1 sanshiki 1 zuiun 12
CAV with 2 gun 1 zuiun 1 sanshiki
Akitsushima with 2 seaplane fighters + searchlight

My Hayashimo keeps getting MVP even when she really shouldn't be able to.

What is she trying to tell me?

Is saiun good for 5-4 ranking?
Some anons recommended me to use it but, from my experience with 5-4, the accumulated damage from getting red tea is better than occasional green tea (which somehow frequently appeared in 5-4 runs when using saiun).

>>15342645
Saiun only changes red T to hankousen. It doesn't increase chance of gween tea.

>>15342642
"Marry me."

>>15342645
Hankou is better than red T and you probably won't get 100% contact without Saiun

>>15342647
B-But level 70 is too young to get married.

>>15342646
Yeah, maybe it's my tough luck that I got green tea more when I used saiun.
>>15342650
But in some situations, red-T would be better, like elite-Re node in 5-5 which you just want to survive past that node.

>>15342655
I was talking about 5-4.

>>15342642

My Maya kept getting MVP in the event, but I just attributed it to some bug where she was getting credit for the LBAS damage.

>>15342652
If she's netting MVPs at level 70, think of what she can do for you at level 155.

>>15342662
I just thought isn't it the same situation for 5-4? You don't need the clean win, just B win would be enough. And with red-T, the accumulated damage might be lower.

>>15342664
Was she flagship?
Flagship of the main fleet in combined fleet always gets MVP on air nodes and when you go into yasen.

>>15342290
I kind of want to try it just to see how insanely hard it is.

>>15342664
It is how combined fleet work.
Kamo was my MVP when I beat E7.

>>15342645
>>15342655
>>15342672
Some people bring saiun into 5-4; combined with APCI on fast BBs, that ensures that they can still decent damage even when chuuha, thus saving on buckets.

>>15342678
>>15342638

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Will I get Nagato today?

>>15342695
Why don't you have her already? Besides, she's as useless as the hotels.

>>15342672
No. You have much harder time taking down enemies for Red T meaning you're guaranteed to take more scratch damage. Battles also take longer. You probably won't have the room for Saiun if you only run 2CV though

>>15342695
No.
Just like I will never have Yamato.

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>>15342699
Because I keep trying to craft her and she never comes to me

>Nagato is useless
You shut your whore mouth

>>15342703
>>15342695
Stop idling and do your world 3 weekly boss at 3-3.

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>>15342703
She pretty much is. I never even sortied her, and just keep her around because she's cute.

>>15342703
Minimum LSC?

And I'm sorry but I have to agree with him, that Nagato is useless. Maybe when she gets kai 2?

>>15342715

Isn't there a quest or two that requires a non F non V BB?

>>15342715
>>15342699
Nagato is more useful than both the useless hotels though.

>>15342721
Not that I know of. She is required for a composition and sortie quest of her own, but I don't think there's anything besides that.

>>15342721
Nope.

5-1 monthly can be done with BBVs. Only fast BBs are restricted.
3-5 one time quest can be done with fast BBs. Only BBVs are restricted.

>>15342717
The nagato class is pretty much the best battleship in the game now with the 51cm being neutral and proto 41 being fit on them.

>>15342671
How would he even level a DD to 99 without destroying his resources and/or waiting forever?

(Sorry for the dumb question, I'm kind new.)

>>15342734
Except Nagato class are the best BB to bring for 5-5. You don't need to bring BBV anymore since you can now get AS with seaplane fighters. Bring BBV with seiran/zuiun will just make them attack sub while they ignore higher priority target. If you put seaplane fighter on them, they will lose APCI,

>>15341458
I'm 99% sure you are that obnoxious Kidou retard.

>>15342751
5-4 and PvP. And also with a bit of patience.

>>15341500
If you don't have Hayasui, use CAV and refresh if you get sent north. Annoying branching but easy fights and guaranteed kill at boss.

>>15342752
>2016
>using slow BBs for 5-5

>>15342758
Why don't people just use Ooyodo and 5DD? It works fine.

>>15342764
CAV is shit for branching though.
Fastsuck comp guarantee ADBGK or BGK.
Not only can CAV direct you to A, they can also bring you to E from B.

>>15342758
Wait, who?

>>15342764
>use CAV
lolno

>>15342771
It's what I do, works fine every month. I don't know why people are always bickering north or south. Both work fine. DDs are my favorite class, so I go south.

>>15341380
Where did the picture of the cracked monitor come from?

>>15342780
>I don't know why people are always bickering north or south

You mean you don't enjoy the sport of calling others retards and shitters while enhancing your epeen? What are you here for then?

>>15342243

That is the most cheerful video about the IJN getting ass-raped in WW2 that I have ever seen.

>>15342751
It is not uncommon to level DDs in 4-3 if one at a time, or 5-1 if in bulk.

>>15342406
Dat Yamato enjoying some burger-boat thigh.

>>15342822
5-1 is the one where I don't have to use bauxite, right? Will try that.

>>15342774
That's what I said. CAV has ~50% of reaching the boss because compass but trivializes the road and boss fight just as much as Hayasui if not more.
You're supposed to refresh when sent north after CL node.

>>15342778
It was the most effective comp before Hayasui.

>>15342406
I thought married ships couldn't sink. I guess I got really lucky a couple of times.

>>15342857
What could possible have given you that idea?

>>15342804
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28848179
It always surprises me that Tone actually survived till the end of the war after all the blunder that she did in Midway.

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Burger Boat drinks Rolling Rock. Confirmed for Pennsylvanian and best ship.

>>15342856
Not 2 CL 1 DD 3 AV?

>>15342873
But she sank in July 1945. The war ended in September.

>>15341380

I didn't see image on that ttk who scrapped everyone and leave only damaged Verniy in his prison office.

>>15342885

She didn't go all the way beneath the surface due to being in shallow water, so she sorta counts as a survivor.

>>15342885
The war pretty much ended after Tengo. It was not like they were putting up any resistance during the Kure bombing.

I didn't know Harukaze survive longer than Kamikaze given Kamikaze higher luck.

>>15342885
Only one of the AVs has armor, they're useless in shelling and their air strike isn't too reliable. DDs are better than non-Mizuho AVs, especially the likes of Poi and Ayanami. CAV guarantees killing/crippling whatever it targets and can tank any shot except Ta flag's.

>>15342895
They did manage to down a few American planes with AA fire.

This wasn't how I wanted my bauxite to go back above my other resources.

>>15342895
I think higher luck means not only survived the war but also participate in many battles.

>>15342892
That's like saying running aground and being stuck there counts as a survivor. It doesn't work that way.

>>15342895
But it didn't actually end then.

>>15342905
Right.
I also forgot Mizuho was introduced at the same time as Hayasui.

Still, I'd rather take my chances with battle RNG than branching RNG, since I actually sparkle my ships for 3-5.

Is ASW combat affected by fatigue?

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This wasn't how I wanted my bauxite to go back above my other resources.

>>15342947
Yes.

>>15342953
Fuck.

>>15342955
No.

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>>15342930
Does that mean the Fletchers with the highest luck would be the ones here?

>>15342097
>since you need a light carrier for 1-5 routing
Wrong. CAV or AV work just as well. CAV is actually better than CVL but only after you accumulate good gear.

>>15342104
Wouldn't surprise me if that was AACI Maya.

>>15342701
You will and you should, even with 2CV. RedT on 5-4 sucks horribly for the reasons you mentioned.

>>15342726
Nagato is only useful for some quests. Hotels are way more useful in the events.

>>15342752
Bringing whole Nagato-class to 5-5 is fucking retarded.
Either go for fast fleet, or use Hotels. Third BB alongside Hotels should be Iowa > Bisko > one of Big7
Seaplane fighters don't give you Artillery Spotting, BBV are still superior for 5-1 monthly. Ises' fp sucks so you should use one (only one) of Nagato-class alongside Fusous. No, you shouldn't use fighters on them, slap those on CAVs instead of radars.

>>15342970
Sure, why not?

>>15342975
>>15342766
It was a typo. I am talking about 5-1.
2CAV with yamatoplane/seaplane fighter will give you AS. You want your 3slow BB to actually do APCI. Giving BBV zuiun is no good since they will go first and waste their shot on the sub. Even if you give Ooyodo Zara gun, it is still a 50/50. Nagatos>Fusous and it is not even close.

>>15342975
>saiun at 5-4 with 2 CV
I can agree with the rest ,but not this.

>>15342990
For 5-1 I bring hotel + 2 Fusous + 2 CAVs + Ooyodo and I stack 2 seaplane bombers on each BBV/CAV for 8 total. Double line at boss node. Works every time. APCI is not needed for 5-1.

>>15342993
>hotel to a monthly
Are you ok?

>>15342997

Not him but I sortie whatever ship I want to level anywhere and anytime no matter the resource consumption as long as it fits the composition. Natural regen is there for a reason.

>>15342990
>APCI

This is 5-1, not an event map with 200 armor bosses. Double-attack is fine.

>>15342978
Well you did say number of battles.

>>15342997
Why not? It's not that expensive.

>>15343002
So? You get to use a superior setup. Plus, Kusou class even use more fuel than Nagato. Get on with time, seaplane fighter is the new hotness.

>>15342990
>You want your 3slow BB to actually do APCI.
Nope. You want first BB to perform APCI and that's why you use 51cm. I usually use APCI on flag BBV as well.

>Giving BBV zuiun is no good since they will go first and waste their shot on the sub.
Doesn't matter, map is easy. Zuiun 12 can kill trash and sub is gone before second shelling. Also, wrong, BBV go second. Give them 41cm, not Pasta guns.

>>15342993
I tried both setups and Saiun worked much better for me. It was some time ago though, don't remember the details.

>>15342997
Why not? You can't afford a single sortie? If I didn't marry Mucchan I would be taking Yamato there every month.

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>>15342990
Even with seaplane fighters I'd say having a Zuiun carrier is better. With this comp Ise is guaranteed to attack after enemy BBs and you also get a decent opening bombardment.

>>15343014
Sorry, but mass seaplane bombers is the superior setup. Maybe you can swap in 1 or 2 seaplane fighters, but to take out Fusous for Nagatos is no good.

>>15343021
>I tried both setups and Saiun worked much better for me.
I don't know, it's not like you get red T half the time. It's only like 10%. But hey, if saiun worked for you, then fair enough.

>>15343027
Yeah this is something that I will run.

Is there a way to figure out bauxite consumption accurately?

I get AS+ at every 5-4 node and still lose quite a bit of that.

>>15343057
http://5-4.blog.jp/archives/1049889430.html

>>15343061
That looks like what I need, will read it when I'm back.

Thank you.

>>15343027
zuiun on BB 3 slot it is safe ?

>>15343069
That's a Shiun.

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>>15343057
75 baux comp from some anon.

Is exp32 utterly worthless or am I missing something?

>>15343082
Yes.

24 hours of expedition fleet wasted for exp you can get in a few minutes.

>>15343087
It is for idlecollefags with 300k resources.

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I'm not sure how people level DDs at 4-3.

I mean, what's the plan for node J? Bring heavy, expensive ships or just pray all the enemies miss?

>>15343147
Bring CLT and CV(L) hope they disable BB before shelling or hope the enemy BB miss.

>>15343147
The recommend composition is in the wiki tutorial, but I normally just refresh when I get sent south.

>>15343147
>I mean, what's the plan for node J?
Plan? What plan, node J is easy.

>>15343027
Huh. I prefer

2 46cm/proto 51cm guns 1 night recon 1 seaplane fighter on hotel
2 proto 41cm guns 2 seaplane bombers on each BBV
2 20.3cm(3) guns 2 seaplane bombers on each CAV
1 T3 depth charge 3 T3/T4 sonars on Ooyodo (tried swapping out one of the sonars for a 203mm gun this month, didn't work out too well. Had to go into night battle for S rank)

But yours seems fine too.

>>15343147
You come out of the game and try again.

Is this thread kill?

>>15343356
Event's over and there's nothing new so yes.

>>15343365

Next Kai Ni teaser when?

>>15343378
After Android update aka at least 7days.

>>15343378
You won't get it until July.

>>15343365
We could discuss furniture and HQs again.

>>15343464
Why is Satsuki's furniture so shit and inferior compared to Uzuki's?

>>15343474
I guess we should just stay quiet.

Amagi or Roma? I wasn't able to farm cuter sisters, sorry.

>>15343508
Roma is more useful down the line.

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>The crippling feeling of depression when you realise that the only time you'll hear a woman begging for your attention is when the idle audio of your kanmusu plays

>>15343586
I don't see the problem here.

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>>15343586
Why need anything else?

>>15343586
>>>/r9k/

5BB1CV for 4-5?
Never done it before, expecting rape.

>>15343647
Try it, see if it works.

>>15343647
To be precised, 1BB 2FBB 2BBV 1CV.

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>>15343586
>3D

It's not like whatever has-been obese woman you'll end up with out of desperation will love you any more than a 2D sprite.

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Just let me pass already!

>>15343737
>sub in 3-4
Did I miss something in the past 2 years?

>>15343744
wiki says its doable but really difficult.

>>15343737
Just do 4FBB2CV. That sub isn't even going to do well in tanking. It's one of the most annoying maps, but you'll not do well with that composition either.

>>15343749
Wiki says a lot of shit, doesn't mean you should follow it blindly. Not to mention that Kongou and Kaga aren't even Kai and I doubt your other ships are fully modernized.

>>15343737
You should move your FBBs forward followed by CVs and have the SS last, although taking the SS out altogether is the best optin.

>>15343749
I don't see where it mentions subs other than a full sub fleet.

>>15343755
If it weren't for the wiki I wouldn't even know how to reach the boss node in certain maps.

Also - only some of my ships (Destroyers) are fully modernized. But they'll just be turned into mush if I took them to 3-4 and RNG takes me to my "favourite node" (H). Plus making Kongou / Kaga Kai (if I could find a place to train them) wouldn't stop me from getting hit by cheapshots by flagship Ru.

I don't know what the fuck went through Tanaka's head when he made that node.

>>15343774
>Clearing this map with only submarines is possible but requires incredible luck as there are golden CLs equipped with both sonar and depth charges that will hit your subs hard even with turbines equipped.

>Recommended to use remodelled SS.

>>15343799
>with only submarines

>>15343799
MOAR DAKKA

>>15343799
>with only submarines
Key word here, "only". It's talking about a full, remodelled, SS fleet.

>>15343799
And that's just what the other anon said, either go full subs or just surface fleet.

I cleared 3-4 by mistake in '13 with solo Goya, by the way.

>>15343799
You'll not beat this map if you don't have modernized kai FBBs or a non modernized Yamashiro or Fusou to replace the fourth FBB, as well as no kai Akagi and Kaga.

>>15343799
>if I could find a place to train them
Nigger you're already in 3-4, how did you miss the grinding spot back at 3-2?

>>15343799
>Plus making Kongou / Kaga Kai (if I could find a place to train them)
Is this bait?

>>15343737
I understand why you put Akagi as flagship, Maybe you want her too receive flagship protection or extra experience ?

But why you put Kaga on 2nd and iku on 5th slot ? Do you understand how 2nd shelling phase and yasen works?

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>>15343816
Oh.

>>15343823
Excluding Anti-Air, Haruna is my only fully modernized FBB and Kai'd. I didn't use her because she's awaiting to be repaired and I've no bucket's yet.

>as well as no kai Akagi

Pic related. Hiryuu, Hiyou, Houshou, Shouhou, RJ are also Kai'd.

>>15343824
3-2 gives me fuck all experience compared to what 4-3 gives me.

>>15343841
Wouldn't I use the diamond formation for that, anon? I only use the first two formations and line abrest when I need to kill submarines.

> Do you understand how 2nd shelling phase and yasen works?

I'm too dumb to know who to put in what slot.

>>15343852
>Suisei on smallest slot

Can people stop responding to this obvious bait?

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>>15343852
Are you really level 84? Anyway, not even insulting you, but you should go read the wiki.

>>15343852
Diamond is shit, you only use it on pure aerial node like 1-6 or event maps

i suggest you read the wiki for flagship protection and how 2nd shelling and yasen works

>>15343586
my boat daughters are the only human voices I hear in a normal day

>>15343852
-Put bomber on 1st slot and largest slot
-Just chill at 3-2 while leveling your ship and collecting buckets

>>15343586
It's the last thing which would fill my heart with a crippling feeling of depression and existential dread desu senpai.

>>15343862
Next you'll say that planes have to be inserted in certain slots in order to work, right?

>>15343872
Yes I'm level 84, anon.

>>15343879
What's there to read about 2nd shelling and night battle combat? All I need to know is that the former goes from top to bottom of the combat line whereas the latter certain ships get a massive boost in firepower / Torpedo.

>>15343881
You don't even talk to yourself? Why not, it's good to have a conversation with a reasonable and intelligent human being once in a while. I recommend it.

>>15343872
Isokaze should sit more properly.

>>15343907
Read the wiki.

>>15343881
Holy shit that's depressing.

>>15343823
to be fair I beat it with 2 light carriers so unremodeled akagi and kaga is definitely possible

>>15343852
your planes still suck. let your bauxite recover and build some better ones. read this guide that I wrote.

http://pastebin.com/uPMHpysN

>>15343956
Your guide is trash.

>>15343988
what's wrong with it? I've been trying to revise it based on comments people have been posting.

>>15343956
>The most important ship to get is Akashi

Mah. Would noobs even use Akashi that much?
They should rather get some subs.

>>15344002

Not him but each day of no Akashi is one screw wasted.

>>15343956
Include a part on how to read the wiki.

>>15344013
Oh right, good point.

I keep thinking of her as the fleet's nurse but equip improvements are important.

I stand corrected.

>>15344002
If you can do 3-2, you can do 2-5 and can farm it.

>>15342990
What? Since when did 2 seaplane fighters become enough for AS?

>>15343956
This guide is really barebones

>>15344002
subs also drop from 2-5. I may be biased since I got my akashi from the first time I cleared the map, but I definitely feel like I would have been missing out if I had gotten her months later.

>>15344033

Not him but I think it's for the better. There is so much stuff to read to understand about this game that giving some effective basics in order to not overwhelm any newfag.

The rest can be learnt later.

>>15343956
The only thing that makes sense in your guide to me is making better planes for my carriers. I've been using standard planes to get past most of my maps through trial and error.

>>15344040
It is, but a new player would have no idea what the fuck a Zuin, Sauin etc. are.

Not saying the guide is bad, but it could have some foot noting to links for the equipment or an explanation to what the equipment does.

Though it is a speed guide so I guess it's justified

>>15344027
Since they buffed chevron bonus a while ago.

>>15344033
what should I add? there's a few guides already out there but most of them assume that you already know what you're doing and tell you to do all this stuff so you can do events on hard. I wrote the guide for players who are just starting out and don't know what to do first. I tried to answer most of the questions that I had that everyone would just tell me to read the wiki for.

>>15344058
I really wish aircalc would update itself with seaplane fighters by now.

>>15344061

Warn players about how basic the guide i and give pointers and useful links about how to use the wiki. Encourage players to research.

>>15343956
There's no part about love points in there.

>>15344061
A contents section would be handy; to give a quick view of the topics covered in the guide and allow quick navigation with ctrl+f.

>>15343956
The only thing that still confuses me is when is the best time to use either bombers or torpedeos and if you have more than one CV(L) should you have one focus on one and the other vice versa.

I always see bombers be recommended when you want a BB or CA leveling in 3-2A and torpedo for the CV(L) when you want it to level in 3-2A. Besides that and always put bombers in the top slot when used I don't have a full grasp on what to choose either for a normal sorties or even event map.

>>15344131
Never use dive bombers, they exist for support fleet and event memes.

>>15344131
Normal use: Torp

E-6 boss (main and aerial), shelling support: Dive

I was a dumbdumb and uploaded the initial guide as a guest so I couldn't edit it. Here is a new version with the input from the thread.

http://pastebin.com/s5rrAur2

This single BGM has more work and inventive than more than halve the BGM of this spring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ASRzJUTteI

Why did they decided to use such shitty music for this event? I swear music is one of the things I look forward the most from events and last one had mediocre BGM almost al time.

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cute fleet

>>15344197
Maybe the composers were out of idea?
The bgm of earlier event like Shogetsu no Sora or MI bgm are masterpieces.

>>15343737
I told you to remove the sub you fucktard.

>>15344270
So many Shigures.

>>15344270
He married all of them as well.

>>15344270
This Rithral person is a whore.

>>15344270

Gos damm it, it's literally the same face in all of then.

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How is your equipment upgrading going ttk?

>>15344319

Horrendous. But I have 260 screws.

>>15343852
Use the same plane setup as the one you used for
2-4. And for 3-4, go line ahead all the way.

>>15343907
>Next you'll say that planes have to be inserted in certain slots in order to work, right?
They work differently in different slots. Read the fucking wiki.

>>15344064
Grabacr's v4.2.5 KCV which came out 3+ days ago takes it into account, but other KCVs haven't caught up yet.

>>15344092
That can wait until you're ready to clear events on hard. Don't be like the anti-potato autist.

>>15344131
As a general rule of thumb, multiply dive bomb stat by 2 and torpedo stat by 2.3, then take the higher value.

>>15344319
I only have 7 maxed. Damn, need to get more 10cms as fodder.

>>15344192
It's still trash. You don't need a carrier to beat 1-4, just CLs and CAs. I typically get at least 6 total by the time I reach 1-4.

Also for the purpose of unlocking to 2-4, whenever I get non-DD dupes (especially CL/CA), I keep them as well. They work very well as backup when you fail to clear a map and a ship is chuuha or taiha. Once you reach 2-4 you can get rid of these dupes.

Not to mention you didn't even take anything from the last thread.

What to do with type 91 AA detector?
Should I convert it to 10cmHA? Or just keep it as a relic from the past?

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>>15344270
Very.

>>15344385
If you have money to buy screws, convert to Akizuki gun. Otherwise don't bother and keep it as it is.

>>15344380

Not him but.

>You don't need a carrier to beat 1-4

It's very recomendable cause your DDs and CLs have wet paper armor before Kai and good modernization material is very scarce. CA drops are very unusual and instead of trying to craft CAs or BBs you try crafting a CV(L) to get Akagi ASAP and then roflstomp almost all maps until 2-4.

>Also for the purpose of unlocking to 2-4, whenever I get non-DD dupes (especially CL/CA), I keep them as well. They work very well as backup when you fail to clear a map and a ship is chuuha or taiha. Once you reach 2-4 you can get rid of these dupes.

I very much dout this guide is aimed at clearing the maps ASAP but on building a proper fleet as you advance.

>gaining 100 points/day
>rank keeps dropping

GET ME OFF THIS SERVER AHHHHH