Mahjong

>>15151906
Friendly reminder to learn yaku before playing in 7447!

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050114gm-0029-0000-8358f0c3&tw=1

>not declaring riichi
>barely keeps shimocha alive after winning off him
>proceeds to end game with dealer yakuhai honitsu tsumo

KOROMO KANA HAS HAD ENOUGH

>>15151906
We need a pastebin of all the useful links for future threads

>>15152140
Not really.

>>15151906
>Sega MJ

I feel sorry for anyone who still plays that rigged pile of garbage.

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I can't believe this actually worked.

>>15152514
You're a hero.

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>>15152140
>more links

Well, what more do you want?

>>15152621
Is that Aika?

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Didn't expect that 4kyu to be R17+.
Then again, I made silly mistakes the whole game.

>>15152621
There's been some useful stuff posted over the last few threads, like that book on strategy, links to all mahjong-themed anime/manga resources for beginners, etc

Should I just fold if I have 2 or 3 penchans or do I go for chanta?

>>15152514
First time I actually see a Nagashi Mangan. Thanks for sharing.

>>15153557
Oh, and phone apps. Seems like every thread someone asks for Android mahjong

are any of the touhou gensou mahjong games any good if im new

>>15152384
I feel sorry for anyone who plays Mahjong in general because it's always fucking rigged

>>15154387
chanta ain't worth shit
there's no reason to go for a cheap hand unless you really need the points

>>15154924

4n is the best and most recent version but requires a CD key to play online.

The entire game is in moon, but it vocally announces Yaku when a hand is won so it can help you learn your yaku.

There's also character specific powers and abilities which nobody ever uses in online because they're all OP as fuck

>>15155139
It's also the only mahjong game that has aotenjou rule.

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Regardless of the outcome, was pushing here the right choice? Even if the difference between me in first place was so small I felt like everyone's hands were going too fast except mine.

>>15157030
Yes. You don't get points for second place in ippan, so if you don't come first you've just wasted half an hour.

>>15157044
Who cares? It's the R that matters baby. The more you inflate your R at a lower rank the better.

>>15157063
Unless you're totally new to the game or just really bad, R shouldn't be a problem. By the time you reach 4d your R should be around 1800 anyway.

>>15155013
MJ Net is actually rigged though.

I'm going to betaori and opt-out of playing tonight. I'm tired and will make shit decisions.

Any good MAHJONG FUEL ideas?

>>15157471
Play as if your life is on the line.

2:0

At 300 games mark, what Dan and R you guys think be good enough to aim for 7D R20+ ? (let me dream kay)

>>15157661
Is that R diminishing gains that bad that you can't consider grinding infinitely?

>>15157711
Well yeah, that's why I chose to create new ID and use this one for "fun".

>>15157739
What makes you think you'll be able to surpass your old stats? You'd think over 300 hanchan you'd be fairly close to your true averages

>>15157755
Played 700ish games with this ID. Prolly in half of em, I didn't defend at all. Heck, I didn't know even suji.

So yeah, I think I can do better.

>>15157779
If you ignore your R and first 350 games you'd still be around the right dan after 350 games.

>>15157784
Actually think I've reached 2 dan in less than 300 games and got demoted a couple of times. Spent the next hundreds getting it back.

>>15157661
Just for comparison -- reaching 4dan at about 200 games is just about right. I reached 3dan at around 100 games so go figure.

Tried downloading that Touhou mahjong game, but can't open the program. Error with gibberish message. What do?

>>15158440
Are you in Japanese app locale?

>>15158440
Mine opened up a terminal, froze for a couple minutes and downloaded a bunch of shit and then booted up. I hope my computer's okay

>>15158447
No. Tried opening it using AppLocale and it doesn't even run.

>>15158649
Huh, I don't know then. Maybe post a screenshot of the message?

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>>15158659
Not sure if it helps anything.

>>15158700
No idea, sorry

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>make 1400 chips in two hands of the MJ's Ichikyokusen event table

It's exciting but this is probably how gambling problems start.

>>15158700
Sure you're in japanese locale? That error message suggests you're not.

>>15158710
If you don't quit while you're ahead, you're going to lose it all to the mentality of "ALL I NEED IS JUST ONE MANGAN, ONE FUCKING MANGAN AND I CAN MAKE BACK WHAT I LOST"

Ikkyokusen is scary shit

>>15158758
I played five games total but I stopped after the second win, so I'm +1100. That seemed good enough for one session, and like you point out, I felt like if I ended up losing I would burn through most of my winnings since those wins got me excited.

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>>15158735
As I said,

>>15158790
Try system settings, not applocale

>>15158790
Oh, well there's your problem. You'll have to change your system locale then

>>15158790
try locale emulator

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I guess this is the real problem. Still don't know the root cause though.

>>15158905
What version of Windows are you running?
Try checking the minimum specs for the game and see if your computer is good enough

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>Drop chance at ryanpeikou to oikake
>Get the houtei
Mahjong gods are fair

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>>15158710
>>15158758
Your brain on 1kyokusen

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>>15159007
>going for ryanpeikou with a complete shuntsu not imbedded in either "iipeikou"

Yea, that was a good plan. You got rewarded for not playing stupid. The mahjong gods were pleased.

I'm learning mahjong finally and goddamn i had no idea it was so convoluted

does every japanese person know all of this shit or is it only the chess nerd types

>>15162512
Like all good games, the basic rules are simple, but the layers of complexity become apparent as you play and learn

>>15162512
The only thing that's "convoluted" is yaku, and they're not much more complex than poker hands which pretty much everyone would know most of.

>>15162512
If you're playing with 7447 the only Yaku you need to know are Tanyao, Pinfu, Menzan Tsumo and Dora because you will never be able to get anything else.

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>>15163086
Excuse me.

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>>15163086
>dora
>yaku

>>15163162
>>15163234
>falling for the bait

>>15163261
The fisherwoman of Shiratodai always takes the bait.

>>15162512
At least, you have some reference material. When I was starting, there was hardly any shit around.

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I was feeling down in the dumps and lost when I encountered three NoNames in ippan who disconnected one after the other. It's been so long since I had fun with this kusoge. This is one of those occasional times I thank the presence of NoNames.

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>>15152514
> 8000
I thought nagashi mangan was some sort of yakuman

>>15164782
It isn't called nagashi yakuman

>>15164882
well you aren't called nagashi bully but guess what you're a bully anyway!

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>>15164882
I’ve re-read the rules. Nagashi mangan IS a yakuman, the thing is that 8000 is the basic points for any yakuman, but since nagashi mangan cannot be won neither by ron nor by tsumo, multipliers are not applied to the basic points. And the sum players pay is divided as usual, 1× per non-dealer and 2× for the dealer.

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That guy with random error, I guess I have to settle with 4 instead of 4N. It runs smoothly, even without AppLocale.
Now, how do I unlock all those characters? I think there is unlock point system, but how do I get those?

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>that feeling when you give up a game after disconnecting twice and you suddenly pull a bullshit gyakuten
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050319gm-0009-0000-3a2381d5&tw=3

>>15165119
Hm, not sure I could help you without looking at my own system. I play the 4N expansion which has everything unlocked already (and netplay).

You do have a cdkey and stuff, right?

>>15152514
blocking just your name won't work Moonlit

>>15166380
Well done, you found me

im playing the touhou 4n one single player and all the computers are taking their turns instantly. how am i supposed to steal their tiles when it's going so fast

>>15166842
pretty sure it should prompt you if you can call, same as tenhou

also shit we should organize some 4N multiplayer at some point

>>15167318
Are there even enough people who bought the game? Honestly I wish there were a DL version.

>>15167341
Yeah it's a pain. At least you only have to buy 4 and can pirate 4N.

>>15167612
Where do you even buy 4? Import from Amazon?

>>15167964
I used melonbooks for both.

I used a proxy service though (sutocorp)

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016043013gm-0009-7447-xd71196ed8f43&tw=3

this game should be a reminder of why i shouldn't play when i'm tired and slightly drunk but i got 5 uras on a riichi nomi and avoided last place so it wasn't that bad

>toimen loses connection on first hand
>falls to 500 points
>recovers connection mid-hand and proceeds to win and recover in just a couple of discards

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042806gm-0041-0000-xa2d8bdd775a4&tw=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuFdHok-3cY

What the hell is this?

these medium 4N trials are kicking my ass

>>15152384
What's wrong with Sega MJ?

Why the fuck do 1kyuus and higher hang out in Ippan for any reason? Only points for first place, bullshit nonames with saki powers, what's the point?

>>15167318
>>15167341
a 4N game would be awesome. How many people in this thread do actually have multiplayer?

Also would powers/Table properties be used? because some are massivly biased eg Futo or Flandre and wind gods mountain makes for EASY shousuushii or simply picking Suwako and getting hon/chin itsuu every hand, and ryuuiisou at least once a Hanchan session.

>>15169068
Bullying or practicing. Who knows

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050407gm-0001-0000-04afed6b&tw=1

Holy fuck man, I could not be more fucking salty to begin with after losing the chance at that yakuhai dora ankou, then the Tenhou client has to fuck me over and disconnect me and completely impair my ability to complete my hand in East 3rd.

Why doesn't the Touhou game have a crack yet? If Tenhou got cracked some random doujin game should be easy enough.

>>15169068
Sometimes, I've accidentally queue'd up no realizing which lobby I was selected for. For example, after playing in a tournament lobby, the interface defaults to ippan immediately after. It's not something I normally check, when I'm used to defaulting in a higher lobby.

>>15169277
But the real fuck up is pushing your yakuhai nomi with a shit wait. It's always tempting to go balls to the wall in extra rounds but you shouldn't be ignoring defence even if it would have won you the game.

>>15169068
It's easier to win in ippan than in the higher rooms is my guess. I think I've only gotten first once since I've moved to joukyuu.

>>15170534
I wouldn't say it's easier to win in ippan since everybody pushes as hard as they can
I've played 15 games in joukyuu this month and so far it's 7-4-4-0 while in ippan I had to bust my ass for every 1st since nonames kept going for 1 han open hands every round

>>15169277
That fucking toimen

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I didn't think this game could make me rage anymore, but Jesus Fucking Christ am I fuming at this bullshit right now

>>15169146
Assuming you
and
>>15167341
are different people, that'd make at least 4, including someone I know who posts in here

>>15171419
You gotta roll with it sometimes. I can't remember the term for it, but we tend to forget when things go really well and focus on when it all went to shit.

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That's some complicated maneuver from toimen

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>>15171627
He can't win off east. It's pointless. For him to change his rank, he needs 11,000 points on a ron unless third place deals into him. The highest possible value from winning off east is mangan (riichi, chitoi, two ura). If he tsumos, he can get third with a mangan or higher, although that would require haitei, or ura which would give him haneman.

Furthermore, even if he doesn't tsumo, it's possible the game will continue if east is tenpai, giving him another chance to improve his rank.

>>15171647
Just to correct myself a little bit, he can actually tie with a mangan on a ron off someone else but third, but due to the seating order that would still end with him 4th. The only way he'd want to win off ron is if there were an extra honba or riichi stick, or if it were third who dealt the haku.

>>15171647
>He can't win off east. It's pointless
It's double riichi so with ura he'll get haneman
Getting ura dora is more likely than drawing haku at this point

>>15171700
Somehow I missed the double riichi. Whoops. Still, double riichi chitoi is only 6400 on ron. I can see him wanting to try for tsumo for the guarantee or just going into another round. It's not an entirely illogical choice.

>>15171700
Did anyone check the ura on this hand?

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I started Mahjong on a whim thanks to this thread and I'm enjoying it a lot even though I'm struggling to learn all the Chinese vocabulary at once

What are some good Riichi Mahjong medias besides Akagi and Saki?

>3:0

>>15172131
For manga, Mudazumo, Tetsunaki no Kirinji, or the rest of Akagi storyline (Ten, Hero). Then there's Janki/Shin Janki and Tohai live action. Akagi also has live action.
However, most, if not all mahjong manga/anime/live action tend to rely on bullshit logic & play. So if you want to learn, just play it over and over.

>>15172131
>all the Chinese vocabulary at once
Enjoy:

http://osamuko.com/big-list-of-japanese-mahjong-terminology/

>>15156266
tfw u win by 7 trillion points

2:0.

Sorry, my internet died.

>>15151906
2.0

>>15172657
3.0

My greatest shame: made it to 1dan with a sub 1500r and a 1:2 ratio of 1st to 4th....

>>15173187
I'm in a similar boat but it's fine with me as long as I don't start dropping ranks. Losing points is enough of a punishment for me.

>>15171529
Then lets pick a date and time and get some games sorted out. Maybe turn it into a weekly thing?

Is there a trick to kabe I'm not getting? I'm often stuck in situations where genbutsu and suji isn't an option and end up rushing my discard as I try to analyze the other 3 ponds

>>15171529
Unfortunately I don't have the game. That's why I wanted a DL version.

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>>15172131
Youtube videos where old farts are interviewed and start to tell how they felt about getting chuuren, but fall into a senile syncope and then don’t remember anything about the past match.

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>>15172343
>only 7 trillion

>>15173301
Do you mean you don't understand the concept of kabe, or you simply can't analyze the pond fast enough?

>>15173335
that's only 8 billion idort

that said I can't find any screencaps where I scored higher than 5, so you win for now

>>15173381
I understand the concept, but is there shortcuts and tricks to speed it up? A methodology?

>>15173734
Not really. It might help if you keep track of opponents' ponds from the beginning. That way you only need to take a quick glance when you run out of safe tiles.

>>15173734
Kabe is essentially counting tiles, that you can see. That includes discards, the dora indicator, and your own hand. Then using that to infer the safety of discarding certain tiles.

>>15173734
I think many people hit this point, like >>15174950 said, watching everyone else right from the beginning is good to keep track of kabe and almost kabe tiles. I used to just name each tile in my head as they were discarded but that's because I'm dumb

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>make brand new account
>lose first game in ippan

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>>15175330
I hope you're good at thinking new IDs.

>>15175330
Enjoy getting wallopped by NoNames.

>>15151906
3.0

how do I check the 7447 ranking for april?

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How did you guys memorize yaku?

I feel like I need an anki deck.

>>15176312
I kept playing until it was second nature. Had a list handy whenever I was playing until I was comfortable with them.

I also read mahjong manga, which helped some but probably nto as much as you'd think

>>15175871
There's a bar on the left with the month. Change it and then press the button at the bottom.

>>15176312
Most of the yaku are related to each other in some way. Like Chin/Honitsu, chanta/junchan/honrouto/chinrouto. You just pick them up by playing. The only really difficult thing to memorise is scoring, which there's no real shortcut for, other than the double fu = -1han thing

>>15176357
i did but i get a cloud flare error when i change the month or any of the settings.

>>15176393
use vpn.

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>>15176379
So how do people determine score? Do they break out cheat-sheets or something?

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>>15176422
Count han, if it's not mangan then count fu. If you know the scoring table apply it, if not check it up. For most beginner players (provided you don't play offline) it's enough to have a vague idea of what score you'll get based off han. Just be aware that situations will eventually crop up where you'll need to know fu in the case of a comeback win or something.

>>15176420
thanks it worked.

3:0

>>15176312
I still haven't learned all of them. Junchan, honroutou and chinroutou just won't stick but I probably just haven't studied them hard enough. Doesn't help that they don't seem to pop up too often so I don't get to see the hands in play.

>>15176766
They're just chanta without honors, chanta without sequences and only terminals.

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>>15171627
Ron does nothing anyways

>>15176422
If you play with real tiles often enough, you're generally forced to learn the scoring table.

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/jp/ still has mahjong threads? It was you lot that got me into mahjong years ago, so this makes me happy.

The worst feeling is wanting to play mahjong but you're tired and you know you won't play well.

>>15177785
Is it more interesting over at reddit or something?

>>15177899
Savage

>>15178184
I was assuming it was Kyuu with that image

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>>15178209
>1267749571
>Fri 5 Mar 00:39:31 UTC 2010
Did Kyuu even play mahjong back then?

>>15178481
http://arcturus.su/wiki/User:KyuuAA
Seems so

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such is life in ippan

>>15178728
Did he ragequit?

>>15178789
He didn't have a chance to. Shimocha's hand was sanbaiman, and mine tipped it over 25k.

>>15178789
He wouldn't have a chance, the game is over. 24,000 sanbaiman and 3,900 30 fu 3-han.

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>>15178837
>>15178842

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>discard a tile
>fuck why did I discard that tile, that was dumb, why are you playing like shit have you fucking learned nothing?
>I don't care anymore just fucking Ron me already

>>15178900
You'd think someone playing real-life Washizu mahjong could afford a nicer looking table for people to keel over onto.

>>15178936
what

that said, I did some looking up of washizu mahjong the other day, apparently it's actually semi-popular and you can buy sets and a few places have done tournaments and stuff

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050600gm-0089-0000-3f9d30da&tw=3

fuck....fuck.....FFFFFUUUUUCCCKKKK

>>15179021
Was it around before Akagi or did Fukumoto invent it?

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>>15179021
That man has collapsed from having his blood drain, hasn't he?

>>15179330
How many people died from playing Washizu mahjong?

>>15179223
The idea of transparent tiles was, but likely only as a novelty/for beginners, and it was still pretty rare.

The 3/4 transparent style seems to have literally been invented by Fukumoto, unless he took the idea from some really obscure source that noone's found yet.

>>15179021
>apparently it's actually semi-popular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbHumxnHGLI

>>15179465
Yeah, they had a tournament in the netherlands using improv washizu tables. No gloves though, instead a 2s rule on grabbing a tile or it'd be chonbo or something.

I think those guys were involved in organizing it or participated.

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Who else is cheering for D-League-pro?

>>15180800
>cheering for shitters

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>>15179177
East 1: Why did you hang on to that chun and discarded it live, dumbass?

>>15182014
>>15179177
Yeah, everything after that was unfortunate, but the chun was completely your own fault. When discarding at the start of a round, for efficiency, you should normally discard: no value wind>isolated terminals>yakuhai honors>isolated simples (as a rule of thumb, exceptions such as discarded pairs of yakuhai make them less valuable). You correctly played discarded the hatsu for 3m but if you were consistent you should have then discarded the chun for 7p, not 3m.

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>>15179177
Anon pls, I had games where I was bankrupt in east 2. Get on my level.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050612gm-00c1-0000-ecf28926&tw=3

East 3 for toimen Shousuushii tsumo via rinshan kaihou

Ignore my shit play since I've been fourth 5 games in a row and I only got on to play aggressive, but at least I also got a rinshan that match.

>>15182654
>Not winning the game after a rinshan yakuman
What a world

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>>15182014
>>15182160
For some fucking reason I kept it as SAFE tile instead of yaku-less wind. And that desperate dora call in e2 didn't help.

>>15182837
Forgot to say, I taught some bro after that and he got kazoe in ippan. What a day.

>>15179177
>going from iishanten to buttfuckshanten and missing tenpai because of it in East 4 just to pursue sanshoku as a dealer with potential dora 2
Deserved it

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well?

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>>15180800
>D-league
What is that? A league of dumbasses?

I can't fucking wait to get out of ippan. In the last five or so games I've played, someone's disconnected.

>>15183725
If you feel like you've got it down just blast through tonpussen. It only matters if you win and it's a crapshoot in ippan anyway.

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>tfw, beating higher ranked players

>>15152384
This may be the case; but it's a nice balance from the shit Tenhou may throw at you here and there.

>>15152384
How is it rigged?

Saw some posts about pastebin, and am planning to make one. It's going to be like this.

>beginner's read
Some osamuko articles, wiki page, etc
>game
List of games for PC and mobile phones.
>manga
List of titles. Akagi, Saki, etc. No links.
>anime
Same as above
>movie
Same as above
>reading material
Osamuko articles, that dynaman book, etc.

The question is, is the pastebin really needed? If yes, are these all enough?

>>15184216
>is the pastebin really needed? If yes, are these all enough?

Yes, and yes. Good job.

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>>15184134
It's pretty easy to feel that tile manipulation occurs if you've played there for a while. Lots of ippatsu, rinshan, kan dora 4, fast and big hands. People going on long winning streaks. Not to say these things don't happen in normal mahjong either but in MJ they are much more common.

I'm not the only one who thinks so. MJ has gotten blasted on review sites by the japanese who also feel the system is rigged. I'm sure there's a number of people who have said the same thing about tenhou, since it has a paid version, but it's much easier to believe that MJ is, both through personal experience and through business models. Naturally, I don't have any hard evidence. If such a thing existed then they'd have gone out of business by now.

However, the difference between Tenhou and MJ as someone who has extensively played both is night and day. It doesn't help that MJ does not release seed data in their replays, meaning you can't see the wall's entirety. It leads credence to the idea that tile dealing in MJ is non-standard and thus more easily manipulated. The lack of hanchan, tenpai renchan, and so on also makes one think that they are trying to hide suspicious things behind a shorter number of games.

http://pastebin.com/mDYfrBdb
Okay, that's it.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv259324442
>To watch all broadcasts in this series, you must
purchase tickets or subscribe
Well, fuck. On the other hand, it's seems to be just 540 JPY, but I have no idea how this works

>>15184585
wait i have nicovideo premium which is 540 yen, is that the same thing or an additional load of money in which case fuck that

>>15184934
If you have premium you can watch it for free
if you don't you can buy points but I personally can't because points can't be bought via paypal and my card doesn't support 3d secure

Can someone stream it?

>>15184216
This is exactly what I had in mind. We could also have a calendar of events for 7447 tournaments and possible meets.

We can always add to it down the road too, so no need to overthink it

>>15184551
I'm new and this is useful. Thanks for your hard work.

>3:0

>3:0

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>>15151906
I think you are getting a gambling problem here Kiriya

>>15186822
Does a new chapter come out every five minutes or something?

>>15187043
Translator is doing a marathon, since volume 4 is the last of the first part

http://arcturus.su/wiki/Shanpon is this kana correct?

from what i gather シャンポン (shanpon) is a wait for either pair to become a triplet, 腹ボテ (harabote) is a wait for the middle tile of a shuntsu to make an extra tanki

i'm one confused otaku right now

i searched the kana on google and i got some delightful images at least

>>15187612
It's incorrect, should be 双ポン or シャンポン. Nice catch.

2:0

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Looks like I've been conned for 540 yen, what does it say?

>>15188344
Well, apparently I either need points or channel subscription which is also 540 yen. Fuck them, I can't even get it with my card

Did the anon who posted a few threads ago fix his problem about how his laptop sometimes discarded his drawn tile even though he clicked on another tile? Same shit is happening to me and I can't play ranked like this. I just drew a red 5m which put me in tempai but when I clicked riichi I just discarded it.

>>15188399
That be flash problem.

- Try changin browser
- Get a better gear
- Use Winblows client

Well, sometimes when those options are not available, I just make sure the tiles are highlighted and discard swiftly after.

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Which Tenhoui is this guy?

Either:

かにマジン（８代目天鳳位）

Or

独歩（３代目天鳳位）

>>15188399
Sounds like the Flash on Firefox issue where hitting Alt+Tab and whatnot will make Tenhou tsumogiri.

On a trip right now. How's Tenhou vs Renmei match going?

>>15189418
就活生@川村軍団 with a daburii, iipeikou, tsumo, dora 2

Will there be VODs of the matches in Youtube?

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>>15189601
There better be, 'cause fuck this shit.

Hopefully the timeshift will be free to watch.

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>>15189418
Standings after today

>>15151906
are they going to play only live or sometime they will do on Tenhou too?

Only live so JPML can use their rigged autotables

>>15189688
>rigged autotables
Well, they're doing a shitty job right now of that

>>15188386
Dang

>>15189750
one of them got a kokushi

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>>15176312
Funny enough I memorized it while being lazy. I decided to make a mahjong calculator because I didn't want to learn it.

Coincidentally while making the program I memorized it and learned the formulas because I had to constantly expose myself to it to make sure everything was right. So I didn't finish because it was mostly useless.

tl;dr: Just keep exposing yourself to it, focus on getting certain yakus until it's just automatic.

>>15189919
>half flush

>2+1+4+0 = 7戦
Well I'm not losing, but I'm not going anywhere either.

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>>15186822
Can't wait for the translations to get to the timeskip where kiriya is evil as fuck

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>>15190134

>>15190134
raw where?

>>15190172
>>15190134
>black lines
Looks like a flashback pal

>>15190134
Jccafè and raw sem don't seem to have it, which site did you use?

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>>15190196
Because it is a flashback. The new main character is Inasaku (spiky hair) He's a 10 dan. The black hair guy is Phil

>>15190172
>that girl
Is that the same girl from Three Monkeys parlor?

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>>15190220
Yeah

>>15190212
>Chapter 83
Whoa, a mahjong mangaka with a work ethic. Inconceivable.

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>>15190064
>6+5+11+11 = 33戦

I need to stop playing tonpuu

>>15190212
>>15190225
I thought Hirayama died when he got Washizu'd.

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>>15190730
Yukio is a zombie like Akagi he just woke up too late.

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>>15190955

>>15189806
But 3 of the top 4 are Tenhoui.

Which toho mahjongs have a storymode? 4N doesn't appear to

Anyone want to play some hanchans on Sega?

>>15192239
4 non-N does I believe. I think 4N is the everything unlocked + netplay thing

>>15192530
Count me in. What's the room again?

>>15192627
JayPee, no password

>>15192646
Also case is sensitive

>>15192627
>>15192646
>>15192651
3/4

>>15192656
I'm coming

>>15192624
I cant find vanilla 4. Maybe i should just buy the damn thing

>>15192656
gg, going to sleep now

>>15192656
>>15193155
Good games.

Is there a good place to download paifu of games? I'd like to have some printouts to read whenever I can't access my phone for whatever reason.

>double riichi ippatsu

up against some lesbians in here.

>>15194165
Just bullies

>>15194209
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050811gm-0029-0000-12629760&tw=1

was a hectic game. played well until the last round where I put my ass into furiten.

OLD HABITS DIE HARD

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Good way to start the month.

>>15194271
>getting ron'd by fully open daisangen after feeding it

Yea, that guy went full retard.

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I need a yaku besides riichi to declare riichi, right? In the first place it requires tenpai so I assume so?

Sorry...

>>15194442
>I need a yaku besides riichi to declare riichi, right?
No.

>In the first place it requires tenpai so I assume so?
Yes. You're also not allowed to call tiles.

>>15194003
IIRC Tenhou has that feature, but I forget how to make that. Also there's old tool that makes it from your Tenhou save game, but that was years ago.
>>15194442
Riichi only is possible.
You can have ready hand, but without any yaku, you can only win either by declaring riichi or drawing the winning tile yourself (menzen tsumo). You can also do both.

>>15194442
Also, since it will inevitably get asked, dora are not yaku even though they're worth han.

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>on a tonpuusen losing streak
>get into a game
>east 1, riichi on the 4th turn and tsumo after around the 12th turn
>east 2, riichi on the 4th turn and tsumo two turns later
>east 3, ryanshanten with a pair of the dora yakuhai, toimen tsumos with a tanyao 1000/500
>east 4, tsumo as the dealer with a shitty tanki wait and finish up before anyone can gyakuten
I can finally escape hell

>>15190212
Sauce ?

Where can I read this ?

>>15194442
>In the first place it requires tenpai so I assume so?
Unrelated to your question that others have answered, but worth mentioning since it might not be perfectly clear to you: you don't need a yaku to be tenpai.

>>15194725
It's been mentioned before.

>>15195514
i.e. even if you don't have any yaku, as long as your hand is valid (4 melds and a pair, missing one tile), if the round ends in exhaustive draw, you'll get points (unless everyone else was in tenpai too)

>>15196133
Don't forget everyone's favourite yaku, Houtei!

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>>15151906
after months and months of kans, i finally did it

>>15197442
Keep at it, you might be able to raise your rinshan rate to 100% that way.

Every time somebody calls, I want to strangle them
This game is not good for my health

How do u even type all this shit with Microsoft IME

Do any of you play for money? online or irl?

tfw tenpai for sanankou or suuankou and someone disconnects

>>15198515
type what

>>15198015
Better hope you never run into me and my .6 call rate. I won't win, but I'll probably be a pain for maybe a round or two.

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>>15151906

>>15198889
>.6
why would yo do that?

At what point should one consider starting a new Tenhou account? In the past week I've gotten to shoudan in about 100 games, but after almost 10 straight loses (3rd or 4th place) I've lost most of my progress to 2nd dan from being one win away from it.

I'd like to get to a high dan and R but I don't know much about ranking up on here, is it reasonable to do so from here or should I just start a new one and try to fuck up less?

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>>15197442
second in a day, wow

>>15200923
Until you can get to 4 dan, there isn't a reason to care. If you are 4 dan and significantly less than R1700 then it's time.

If you are at 100 games and are trying for Tokujou then you should probably abandon the ID anytime you fall below 1600.

Joukyuu has no requirements on R, but Tokujou takes 1800.

>>15200923
Why are you playing mahjong? Because you enjoy playing mahjong, or because you want to hit next dan? Starting a new ID isn't going to make you any better than you are now.

>>15200923
Keep playing. There's no point in making a new account if you can't even play in joukyuu. Going back to ippan will make you worse.

>>15201102
I agree but there are some cases where you should make a new account. For example if you are 4-dan and below 1700R with more than 1k games.

>>15200923
R gains start dropping significantly after ~300 games, and the formula uses a flat multiplier starting at 400 games. So if you make it to 4dan but you are under R1700 with 400+ games, you should make a new account.

However, you should hit 4d first to confirm that you have the ability to do so. There's no point starting over until then.

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>>15201006
>>15201136
>>15201153
Alright, thanks guys.

>>15201102
Honestly I get so frustrated at some of the shit that happens in this game that I'd rather not play, but I can't stop myself from doing so. I guess I feel like I've invested so much time into both learning the game and playing in the past eight months that I don't want to quit without having at least something to show for it.

I mean, getting things like the rinshan tsumo or ryanpeiko is more fun than seemingly any other medium of entertainment available, but those things can only outweigh the other shit like getting dealt shit hand after shit hand, folding from the start only to still deal in to a kanchan hellwait when you run out of completely safe tiles, or not being able to double ron a guy with san ankou because you were going for suu ankou and you declined the ron not knowing that he dealt into another guy's hand and being unable to take back that decision even though you could with real tiles.

In any case, as much as it's frustrating, bitching about it won't make me not third-rate, so I'll just keep playing until I can gyakuten to second-rate.

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There is a place that has mahjong private rooms, in my city.
How do I get invited?
They are playing Riichi mahjong, whenever I ask to see they say no.
I don't know anyone who is nearby who plays.

>>15201329
You have to get over it eventually, you're expected to only win 25% of your games when you hit your skill plateau so getting upset at the tiles isn't helping anyone. Like other people said, if your R is stagnated (for example, if you played hundreds of games before you really knew what you were doing) then a new account will help that. But that doesn't affect your ability to dan up at all.

>>15201356
Prepare some bucks, you won't get to play it without having betting money.

Which city do you live in?

http://tenhou.net/5/?log=2016050913gm-0029-0000-9d59b65d&tw=1&js=1

That feel when you keep changing your wait and end up choosing the wrong one. Or you bail when you should have pushing.

>>15201752
>web beta
Disgusting

>>15201771
Laptop's hinges are basically FUCKED since roommate came home drunk and ran into it. So I'm stuck playing on tablet for now. I'll just grind to 6dan on this tablet.

>>15201752
You fucked up your last hand, when your hand got tenpai on 7-man penchan.

>>15201814
Yeah. I really played badly through the entire game, to be honest. That one was just the worst play. I'm lucky I didnt pay for it.

>>15201506
They won't even let me bet.
I'm a gwailo

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What do they call "what would you discard" in Japanese?

>>15188399
I gave in and got the desktop client

I paid for it rather than using the crack, though, so I've no idea how well that works.

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Why am I playing this luck-based kusoge
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016050916gm-0089-0000-4dd4bdef&tw=1

>>15195867
Where ? That doesn't help a lot

>>15202573
I dunno about him but I haven't seen it mentioned in the past few threads. I just googled the character's name + mahjong and it was the top result.

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>>15201752
>>15201846
Other than the last hand which was just silly, my main gripe is in East 2, when you switched up your 36s wait for pair wait on the west. The west is pretty much only coming out from someone who is pushing (unlikely against three calls from dealer that looks to be at least mangan) or someone who gets a pair and runs out of safer tiles. While each individual west tile is certainly more likely to still be in the wall than each individual 3s or 6s, five tiles remaining definitely trumps two here.

It could certainly be argued that you should have pushed the 3s in East 3. Mangan tenpai with an OK wait and 3s doesn't look like it will deal in. But really, I can't blame you for not doing it, with there being no guarantee and the riichi is from fourth place. And then the 7p just looks like sheer death anyway. Don’t discard tiles that picture the reaper unless you have to.
I'm not sure about the worth of calling yourself out of iishanten for chinitsu in the first place, though. I've always been bad about making calls that won't reduce shanten (or even increase it like here!) even when it's proper, but in this particular case your shape is so very wide that my scepticism feels justified. 1234567m would all make you tenpai, some of them fairly good too, which feels a lot stronger than the ryanshanten for chinitsu.

Other than that, I don’t feel there’s a lot to worry about. I’m higher ranked than you but can’t say you made more mistakes than I do in any given game, if that means anything to you.

>>15202607

The art style recalls me of tetsunaki no kirinji but I can't seem to find this chapter translated, where do I get the raws ?

>>15202377
ウァット　アー　ユー　ヂスカード？

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>>15202859
It is Tetsunaki

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In case that paifu anon is still there, Tenhou has the feature. Use /6/ like this
http://tenhou.net/6/?log=2016050319gm-0009-0000-3a2381d5
Or, for more difficult method, use TenhouViewer. Old stuff, but still works, see pic related.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/nwcozpx8jct314f/TenhouViewer_r182.zip

>>15201669
Hamilton. Ontario Canada

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>>15202695
Thanks for the insight and encouragement, mate. Cheers.

Tetsunaki no Kirinji 41 is out, lads.

>>15206170
Are there RAWs online?

>>15206196
yes, you can download all the volumes (also first of the new series) from china's most used site, just google the jap name with rar after it

>>15206217
Found it. Thank you very much

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>>15206170
I really like how this part features four actual players as opposed to the usual trope of 1vs1 with two paper opponents. They're all interesting enough too.

By the way I got a question : How does Mah-jong gambling works ? (When you play han chans with money as a reward)

Is it only the first rank player who gets paid by the others at the end of the Han-Chan ?

or do you have to pay each time you lose a hand by ron or tsumo ?

>>15207258
Depends on the ruleset.

>>15203488
I'm that anon and I don't know what the hell I'm looking at.

>>15207371
It's how paifu sheet usually looks like. From top row to bottom: initial hand, draw, discard, and final form. That arrow means tsumogiri

Yeah, it's hard to read. Better to just take screencap of the table.
>>15207264
There are lots of criteria. Normally it uses points (1k points = 100 JPY, for example), but it can use stuffs like
>ranking placement
>specific bonus yaku
>specific bonus tile
>specific calls
Each parlor has its specific rules, so learn that first.

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>>15207264
It can be done different ways, some places have payment at the end of a hanchan or tonpuu with static rates for payment based on final placing, some have no rules on placing but rules that equivocate money to points (1000 points = $1 or whatever amount, for example), some also have rules where dealing into specific hands, or hands with specific tiles (like a red 5, 3 or pochi haku) is an instant payment in addition to the normal rules.

There's also the time-tested classic of equivocating points to CCs of blood and having any direct transfer of points between two participants result in either loss of blood or gain in millions of yen. It's a pretty good set up for a casual mahjong night between friends as you can probably tell.


Unrelated to the question but not going to just space it into two posts, but man, I'm glad I didn't fuck up and break up my ton ankou after running out of safe tiles. I usually do that in those kind of situations, but something felt ominous about my drawing of the third ton and his call on the Sha, and thankfully I made the right decision.

>>15207517
You didn't run out of safe tiles tho, he had single pair wait and you could see all 8p

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016051014gm-0009-0000-161a2d44&tw=3

Check out Mr. Flow on the left. Unbelievable.

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3:0

>>15208139
You messed up on S4. Even though all the 1s are dizcarded, discarding the 5s means you get pinfu too. Same wait as discarfing 2s.

Are there any yaku you don't personally agree with?

I don't like how open chinitsu is worth 5 han, even though it's relatively easy to get. On the other hand, ryanpeikou being worth only 3 han is weird.

In case someone wants to make new thread, there is pastebin for some riichi-related links.
http://pastebin.com/mDYfrBdb

>>15208040
I mean after I discarded the 8p, 9p and the 4s that passed. I drew more live pinzu tiles, and from my perspective, the manzu I had weren't exactly the safest to deal against the shimocha or kamicha. There was also the chance of someone making another call, changing the draw order so that I have to make the houtei discard, and then me dealing in to what appears to be an open honitsu when it's actually a trap no yaku houtei tanki.

>>15208885
I don't think open Chinitsu is "easy" to get. Sure, you can make a lot of calls and give yourself a crappy open hand, but then no one will deal into you, plus if you then need to bail you pretty much can't. Ryanpeikou seems like it should be worth more being rare, but it'll normally come with pinfu meaning it's at minimum 4h20f and a mangan more often than not. Like chiitoi it always gets 2 ura as well. Sankantsu is the only one I think is too cheap, but considering it can come with toitoi, yakuhai, or dora12 it's alright.

>>15208910
>trap no yaku
Toitoi dora3 even if he was waiting on something random

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http://tenhou.net/cs/2016/05tr/

>1st broadcast is over
>still have to pay to watch the archive

What faggot came up with this business model?

>>15209017
Who doesn't want sweaty neetbux

>>15208885
1 han for open chanta is pretty weak

>>15208978
Oh shit I forgot about toitoi. Good thing that hand didn't materialize though.

>>15209049
Agreed, but yakuhai is common with it. Making it more expensive would have knockon effects to junchan and honrouto. It's a necerssary evil.

>>15209049
That's because open chanta is shit.

Anyone up for a game?

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If only I could do this more often. The only trap more satisfying is an akadora suji trap.

>>15209273
Try jigoku + suji.

>>15209273
>If only I could do this more often
Win with 2 han 40 fu hand?

>>15209363
>2 han 40 fu hand
Get your yaku straight, Kaori.

>>15209363
Sanankou

>>15209363
Try again champ.

>>15209273
>>15209426
Can you closed kan during riichi to gain sankantsu?

I can't seem to find any info on it.

>>15209426
Oh, you mean three closed triplets
That カン confused me

>>15209452
You can ankan after riichi as long as it doesn't change your wait.

What's the difference between the gray and normal tiles in the Tenhou discard pile?

>>15209544
tsumokiri ツモ切り Discarding the tile that was just drawn.

>>15209552
Thanks, homie!

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Getting out of ippan was pain in the arse.

>>15209452
>Can you closed kan during riichi to gain sankantsu?
Sankantsu is rare enough as it is. For a fully closed one? Yea, you're asking a lot.

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>>15209452
I'd be interested to know if it's ever actually happened. First you need to be suuankou tanki tenpai, which is rare enough as is, then draw all your kans before drawing the winning tile or anyone else draws or keeps any of the last ankou tile

>>15211996
Or sanankou ryanmen wait, which is a lot more plausible, though still rare.

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Some games you just have to let go, right?

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Man, talk about a fucking tragedy

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>>15212322
Though to be honest, going from this to a closed Shousuushii tanki was lucky as shit to begin with, but it was worth a try.

>>15212343
From your point of view, Pei was still live.