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Seacats/Umineko thread

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>>15063763
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Getting close to the Hotarubi golden land
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohio-shooting-pike-county/

I didn't know Yasu lived in Ohio. Seems she only got to the Second Twilight though.
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This time I didn't make the thread.

I patiently waited for someone to do it.

As you see, I can control myself too.
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>>15121852
Thank you Jewjew-kun.
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>>15121748
So that's why it took so much longer than usual
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>>15121863
kun is for males anon
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>>15121887
And the post was deleted, or Juju banned again?

>mfw
I just want to be nice once again, it's been long since I was nice to someone...
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I want to deito Lucifer.
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Belphegor is sitting on my face RIGHT NOW while I masturbate
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>>15122173
Rudolf was found stabbed the following evening.
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>>15122218
he'd better have waited til Kyrie was busy with Leviathan.
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>>15121748
The /jp/ threads literally counts on your autism anon.

Even if you're useless in every single other part of your life, we need you, right here, right now.

Please don't forget us in the future. Make those threads anon.
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>>15122337
But I don't feel useless, but if there isn't a thread, it seems that everyone forgot about our beloved Witches and they will forget about us too leaving our universe forever.
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>>15122355
I hope not. I count on both Lambdadelta and Bernkastel in my life. I pray to them every morning. The thought that they would forsake me makes me all shivery.
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>>15122390
I wouldn't pray to them that is kinda cringy, but if they forget our universe, they forget about R07 and he stops telling us their stories.
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>>15122454
>I wouldn't pray to them that is kinda cringy.

Spotted the Üntermensch. Don't think about what other thinks of you. There is not shame in greatness.
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>>15122517
It should be "irgendeines" and ",weil ich durch meine eigene Intelligenz erleuchtet bin"
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>>15122517
>>15122638
Gods are different from Witches. You pray to Gods, you don't pray to Witches.

Lambda explained me the differences in a dream. I am not even kidding, I had a crazy dream with Lambda and Bern where Lambda explained to me some crazy shit, it was one of the most surreal dreams I ever had.
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>>15122891
Share your knowledge
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>>15122891
I'm genuinely curious to know more. If Lambdadelta or Bernkastel shared something with you, please enlighten me. Maybe I pray to them wrongly.
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>>15122902
>>15122915
I will as best I can, I have to go for some time now I'll be back later. Stay around for it.

This is not roleplaying or anything it really happened. It was a dream so anyone can make their interpretation about the meaning of a dream and our reality.
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>>15122915
If they're real would they be mad at me for masturbating to them frequently?
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>>15122955
Bern would be annoyed, Lambda would laugh and/or wouldn't care.

Why I know this?

???????

Who knows?
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beato
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Anybody have any screenshots or scans of scenes where R07 openly teases the answer right in the reader's face without them realizing it?
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>>15122902
>>15122915
>>15122945

As usual, I found myself randomly on my dream. When I got hold of the lucidity, I started wondering where I was.
It looked like morning, from the intensity of the light coming through the windows and the open doors leading to the outside. It was a mansion, but not like Rokkenjima, something British and on the country side. I looked outside from one those doors and I could see a bright light shining on the vegetation, flowers and other kinds of plants. It seems too bright for me so I stayed indoors.
It was a lot darker inside, but still on a level that someone would find comfortable. I was interested on exploring the mansion inside, but before I took that many steps I noticed someone on the hallway next to that door. Looking at some flowers on a vase, was a young woman with long straight hair observing those flowers with a very relaxed look on her face. She was wearing a light coloured dress common in that century, had a dark hair and her eyes were grey or blueish grey, it was hard to understand with that kind of light. She glanced at me for a second from the corner of her eyes and turned her attention back to the flowers. Focused and occasionally touching the petals, this woman was paying attention to those flowers for some reason, even leaning forward to take a closer look almost touching them with her nose.
I was intrigued wondering who she was. Before I came to a conclusion, my thoughts were interrupted by a squeaky voice, coming from somewhere else, ruining the quiet I was feeling in that room, "Hey! What are you doing here?". It looked like an other young woman with that voice and I turned around to look at her.
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>>15124090
>Cont.

She was indeed an other young woman. She was wearing a dress from that time, but she was also wearing a hat and gloves. She had short blonde hair, bright hazel eyes, looking at me with a grin, one hand on her hip and the other held out waiting for my answer.

"I don't know! I just ended up here somehow, I have no idea." I replied still confused with the whole thing. She didn't let me explain any longer and her voice changed into something less disturbingly squeaky, "Hang on!" she said raising her hand, "You don't need to explain anything, I get what is going on, don't worry."
She paused for a moment, I had time to realize something. Who they looked like, who they seem to be and I asked her, "Wait... Lambda?". I turned around and stared at the other woman, this time she glared me not very amused for someone to stare at her so intrusively.

So I faced the blonde woman once again and she answered me, "Yes I am. I don't think we look that different now for you to not be able to recognize us.". I looked at the other woman again, still minding her own business with the flowers and I asked Lambda, "So she is...". "Bern. Obviously..." she finished my sentence, sighing in the end.

I was confused even more, but for some reason it felt like it made sense. I looked back at Bern and she was glaring me with her eyes, this time it really felt like her, piercing me just as I should be expecting from her. I looked back at Lambda and she was standing there, arms crossed, with her usual authentic grin, waiting for me to say something.
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is it possible there's something more sinister behind her gesture here? also why is erika so erotica.
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>>15124395
>Cont.

At that moment I was thinking, it was a dream, but some say dreams are more then just dreams. Even if they are just dreams I had to know what this dream had for me. So I focused and calmed my mind down so I wouldn't wake up suddenly ruining the whole thing.

I changed my attitude for more immersion and started asking questions more seriously, "Then Lambda, explain me what is going on? Why are you here? Why is Bern behaving like that, it doesn't seem nothing like herself." She gave me a smile and spoke, I believe she was hoping I stopped looking silly and finally come to my senses, "She has to be like that. Its part of the thing she is doing right now. She is trying to be a human, a mortal and experience this world as one. The mindset and knowledge of a Witch doesn't let her experience this properly. She has to be dumb. She has to descend herself like that.". She finishes her speech, with her usual confident tone and gestures with her palm up towards Bern.

She was quiet and appeared to be like an innocent girl, she was contemplating the garden outside, feeling the fresh wind of that morning coming through the door. This was exactly the situation she would die of, absolute boredom with nothing happening around her. It was like she was drinking her poison on purpose. But for some reason she just stood there, peaceful and silent.

I was pondering about Bern, I was about to move towards her to speak but Lambda told me not to do it, so I asked Lambda instead, "She is her own Piece, but this doesn't even look like a Game at all. What are you doing?".
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>>15124527
Because she's exactly the bratty, whiny, squeaky overconfident girl you'd want to really dominate
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I'm glad Umineko is still being posted after nearly 10 years.
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>>15124772
>after nearly 10 years

KILL ME
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>>15124744
>Ending.

Lambda leaned forward resting her hands on her hips, smiling at me, "We are called Voyager Witches for a reason. We travel to many kinds of worlds to experience them in the many ways we can thanks to our powers." I was following her explanation and I asked her, "So you are like Gods? You have amazing powers and can do amazing things."

"Wrong." she told me right away slightly raising her voice. Lambda kept her cheerful attitude and gave me her long explanation, "We are might look similar, but if we were the same we wouldn't have different names.". She leaned back standing straight looking me in the eyes, she was looking serious this time, "Gods are beings part of their own universes and they are part of nature. It seems they have free will but, they are bound to cause and effect.", she peered at Bern in the middle of her speech returning her eyes to me right away "They might have great powers like us, but they lack awareness and consciousness. Gods are still very limited compared to us and they exist for a purpose on their universe, as part of how that universe works. Like a supernova or a black hole, they are just huge events on their universe and appear to be conscious entities.".

Lambda lifted her head with a faint smirk, "We Witches however, are not bound and we are very conscious beings. So this gives us a lot of freedom and we can do whatever we like. But there is something, that even humans can related to. When you are very conscious, you start to get bored of things around you, this is why it is sometimes said that ignorance is bliss. But humans are limited, some tried so hard to push their limits into changing their reality that were able to, what we can call, do Magic. And that is why we are called Witches and this is what we do, Magic. Witches are beings that can do a lot of Magic. So we travel between many universes to experience them, that is why we are here now, until we get bored with it and move on."

Lambda turned her face to look at Bern, I did the same. This is when the dream started to collapse until I wake up, it's the last thing I remember.


Sorry for the autistic writing, I just felt I was contributing to the thread with it and replying to:
>>15122915
>>15122902

I don't remember the dream and the words perfectly, it sounded more complex coming from Lambda mouth. I tried to emulate the things I felt too and what she meant.
Sometimes people that take drugs like LSD or DMT experience talking with other beings where they talk a lot of crazy shit to them, this is how I felt with this dream and with these two characters.
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What in the fuck was that?
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I still have no idea how Bern can use the Red Truth. Can someone explain to me or did I miss something?
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I want to fuck Beato's tits.
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>>15126293
Anyone can use Red Truth, senpai.
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>>15125270
I had a dream where I was in a train and Beatrice was driving it. I don't remember much as I'm not efficient in lucid dreaming, but that's what I remember. My waifu's Erika though so I was a bit disappointed that I didn't see her.
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>>15126583
That was the train to Hell. Your future if you don't realize the mistake you've made in loving the inferior blue-haired girl.
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>>15126593
>believing in dream meanings.

What are you? A middle aged wife?
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>>15126608
And what's wrong with middle-aged wives?
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>>15125805
Sorry for my spam. My writing isn't even that great.

Someone asked me to tell them about my dream. I tried to write about it like a story. And dreams are about what you feel on them and I really felt the chill of both characters presence on it, specially with the things I heard from one of them.

I thought it was worth it to post it because our threads are also about our experiences related with Umineko, I think. I didn't think it was shitposting and in fact it was actually content for the thread.

Think of it like, at least is not dumb erika posting!
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>>15126899
>dumb erikaposting

I resent that.
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>>15127104
Good food for thought, maybe she is the embodiment of Certainty which kinda makes her a Goddess of Certainty. But she is still free to help them or not, no matter the prayers she gets from humans. I believe Lambda is just playing God for the fun of it, or maybe some kind of morality she has about it.
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>>15124527
who can say?
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"Wow! I just had a brilliant idea!" - Ryukishi, taking a break from writing Chapter 8 to watch Titanic and Romeo and Juliet back to back
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>>15127430
>Juliette
That name piss me the fuck off
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>>15127394
My headcanon is that Lambda is very mature. She understands that making others suffer and ruin their lives isn't the only way to get rid of her boredom. Bern looks like she is not very mature at all, or maybe she is pretending, acting like an edgy teen with urges to kill. I hope one day Bern grows up if that is the case.

It's creepy when we notice weird details on the novel that seem to be out of character. But I remember a Ryukishi interview where he said there was more behind Lambda, Bern and Featherine that was untold. He also mentioned that he because a writer to express his inner world. I believe he might have a lot of autism regarding some characters, that is what makes it interesting.
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>>15127536
This post, accurate for me.

And specially this:
>You see of her true colors in the tea party where she tells Beatrice to play more seriously, in a stern and meanacing voice

This is what I felt on my dream. I just realised how Lambda truly was after my dream. Every day Lambda looks even better and a lot of character relationships start to make more sense for me.

For me Bern is very immature, she pretends she is strong, cruel and evil. By doing bad things, she hides how bad she feels or to hide her weaknesses. Just like when Bern told Lion how she forgot how to react. I think Lambda knows that and she teases to exploit that on her, from this basis we can also understand why both fit together in their love relationship.

Ryukishi inspired me and he keeps doing it so, the way he created the characters and how he sees them, its something I follow too and I believe its amazing.

>tfw you will never RP with Ryukishi where he perfectly portraits those Witches following strictly the characterization and their set of "rules"
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>>15127694
please stop talking about that, no one cares about your dream.
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>>15127536
>Ryukishi07 also stated that he has very detailed scenario about her and the other most powerful witches Lambdadelta and Featherine.

Where is that interview? I want to read this.

Since there are a lot of things that he had detailed for the Witches but never published them, makes me believe he has some kind of autism around these characters and a lot of quality and relevant content he could tell us about.
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>>15127724
I didn't mean it like that, for attention or something.

Unless you just posted that to have your edgy moment to be rude.
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>>15127742
No, i'm seriously asking you to stop.
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Umineko is not your personal blog.
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>>15127788
But we can still post tumblr images right? It's ok?
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>>15127795
As long as you change the filename first it's perfectly acceptable
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>>15127814
Thank you anon-kun
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>>15127836
Always here to help, Anon-san.
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>>15127814
What if I change all my filenames to tumblr filenames?
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>>15127814
You can't stop me!
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>>15123176
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>>15128874
why is she lifting the front of her skirt?
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>>15128939

She is recounting the time she was accosted by German nihilists.
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>>15129090
THEY CUT OFF HER CHONSON!
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Seacats, who could win in a fight:
Featherine, Lambdadelta, and Bernkastel or the 96-97/97-98 Chicago Bulls?
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I've been watching that blind LP of Umineko since it was mentioned last thread. Really enjoying going through all this again after so many years, and I like witnessing people's reactions to it. Hope he continues it after he finishes EP5, but I don't see why he wouldn't since he's already this far into it.
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>>15129257

Lambda unless the Spacejams show up with Jordan.
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>>15129257
>>15129407

YOU MAY HAVE SOLVED THIS CLOSED ROOM MURDER, BUT CAN YOU SLAM AND JAM USHIROMIYA BATTLLLLLEERRRRRR?
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>>15129432
>2.24 MB
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>>15129458
>Giving a shit about compressing stupid images made in 3 minutes
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>>15129469
You won't go far in life with that "fuck it" attitude of yours.
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>>15129498
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Reminder that beatrice did nothing wrong
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beato
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>>15130017
But Yasu did.
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>>15130017
Which Beatrice? There's probably a dozen of them.
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It's safe to assume that Erika's blue hair is an homage to the most famous detective story of our time, Blue's Clues, right?
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>>15133347
Please tell me there's art of this
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>>15133347
Simply by the color blue and finding clues, this level of reasoning is possible for an anon. What do you think, everyone?
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>>15134418
How would Steve fair as a detective in Umineko? What if on his way to college overseas, he got stuck on Rokkenjima in some fragments? Hence why he never returned to the show?
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>>15135059
Would he be able to hop into Beatrice's painting?
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>>15135176
Suddenly I feel the need to watch a detective solving mysteries while jumping around paintings to find clues.
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>>15135182
Isn't that exactly what Blue's Clues is?
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>>15135188
I mean in a more gritty and grounded-to-earth sense.
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>>15135191
You mean an actually serious detective story involving that? That... Sounds really good.
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>>15136369
>breaking the 4th wall all the time, asking the reader what they think of evidence X

Holy shit, he really is Erika.
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>>15133347
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>>15137661
I think I'm in love.
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Has anybody this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQEZUcAgZHQN43TNJo0PR5oI8WqkVxf9K
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>>15139430
This was the 24 hour one, right? Too bad it's gone now
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Hey, anyone still have part 5 installed and feel like uploading the sound effects folder? I lost it at some point and i need cackles and red truths.
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>>15139430
>>15139682
Did you guys seriously chase this girl off the internet?
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>>15139736
I don't know exactly what happened, but they were privated after someone posted them on /a/ a while back
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>>15138374
Don't defile Blue's Clues, anon!
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I'm too lazy to remove the circle, just pretend it isn't there
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>>15140422
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>>15140422
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>>15139682
>24 hour video
>were privated
Is she crazy?
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>>15138374
I can fap to that idea.
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>>15140809
I want to fuck her while she struggles to sing the mail song
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>>15140490
>>15140717

Oh man. Even after 7 years the memes are still funky fresh
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>>15140321
"With this level of reasoning, I, Furudo Erika can skedoo too!"
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beato
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If Rosa loved Maria, why did she keep hitting Maria?

If Eva were a good mother she would have allowed George to marry the person he loved.

If Natsuhi were a good mother she would have supported her daughters passion of being in a band.

If Erika really existed, she would have died in the cold waters.

Umineko is a tragedy with no happy ending.
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>>15143636
>If Erika really existed, she would have died in the cold waters.

No, it's fine, she had a swimsuit.
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>>15143737
See that's what I don't really understand

If it was an accident that she fell off the boat, why was she wearing a swimsuit at the time she fell?
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>>15143756
Perhaps she was wearing the swimsuit under her normal clothes because reasons and she simply got rid of her clothes shortly after falling off.
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>>15143827
Well she was on a pleasure cruise. She could have been wearing a swimsuit underneath in case she wanted to use the on boat pool, or something.
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>>15143827
But in that case her life jacket would have fallen off as well. Also, who the fuck wears a life jacket on a pleasure cruise?
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>>15143915
The lifejackets are stored onboard. You put them on when shit gets real.
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>>15143915
Assuming she just clumsily fell off the ship and it wasn't sinking or anything, perhaps she fell off just after removing her clothes to take a refreshing swim in the pool and a life jacket happened to fall off at the same time.

It's total bullshit but we're talking miracles here.

Also what the fuck would Erika normally dress like anyway. I really need to know.
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>>15143915

Well this is Erika Furudo were talking about. The girl who sealed the two windows from outside in the pouring rain, wearing only a swimsuit. I wouldn't be surprise if she was testing some crazy theory on the cruise and fell in the ocean as a result.
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>>15143952
A more plain dress with no panties and no bra
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>>15143975
>no panties and no bra

Because of the swimsuit or because she's a pervert?
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>>15143952
She wears this in the flashback at least
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>>15143987
She's a pervert
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Shit. I just now realized I should have asked the anon who went to see r07 whether Erika's bf was really cheating on her or not.
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>>15144657
Erika was a cuck
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>>15144642
But it says right here that her presence increased the number of people by one
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>>15144665
Her rotting corpse that got washed up on the beach is still a person.
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>>15144678
Then why doesn't Kinzo count as a person?
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>>15144685
He threw away his soul for Beatrice, so he's not a person.
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Just report and ignore.
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>>15144691
>dead people
>people

Checkmate.
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>>15144689
Putting it like that it makes it sound like Erika really is incompetent as a detective. The only way for her to win is to try to break the game and screw everything over. Battler kinda blew her the fuck out in the end.
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>>15144699
That's only if we word it as dead people. Let's use the word bodies then, bodies count as separate things as people. We're only told how many people are on the island, not bodies, and they only specify the number at the end of ep 6, as in clearly state it, and that's ONLY if Erika joined them. They never once claim how many bodies there are in the story.

So Clearly Erika always washed up on Rokkenjima and got fucked.
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>>15144689
But if Erika is dead, how do you explain the red truths that say "Erika did X", like this one?
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>>15144740
I thought you said she died on arrival, and that's why there are only 17 people in game 6? Or did I misunderstand something?
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If Kanon and Shannon are the same person, wouldn't it mean it's possible for Erika to exist?
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>>15144731
One could even say it was likely Battler who solved the epitaph in the end over Erika. You can make a good argument for it. Battler's not entirely stupid, he's actually pretty clever and smart, he's just oblivious and tries to think too much out of the box sometimes. While he'd have a bit of a struggle to solve the actual murders on Rokkenjima without some guide (like Knox's ten commandments) I feel like he could probably manage to figure out the epitaph given the appropriate time and motivation.

Erika likely helped out and mentioned a few things that got Battler on track, and she likely tried to make it seem like she was the one who actually solved it. I doubt Battler would really buy that he solved it 100% by himself. Even in the end, when Kinzo was "Showing Battler where the gold room was" that could just be construed as battler figuring it out himself. Of course, this all depends on when/if Yasu got Battler to go along with their scheme. Did they make contact before or after the epitaph was solved? That's even assuming they got involved with the scheme at all.

Erika also fell into a bit of a trap in the middle of Ep 5. She honestly did suspect that Kinzo was actually dead, until having been "proved wrong" in her interaction with Battler. Battler pulling that whole stunt, even if both battlers were just piece battlers, totally screwed over Erika, making her include Kinzo into her plot that made Natsuhi out to be the culprit. That really helped screw Erika over near the end of Ep 5 when vehemently tried to include Kinzo into her theory, despite it constantly being stated in red that kinzo was dead. She tried to defend that angle instead of attempting to create a good work around.
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>>15144779
Because if they're one person then there are 16 people without Erika, and 17 people with her, so the ending of Episode 6 makes sense
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>>15144793
Yeah that's pretty much how I interpreted it, pretty simple and to the point.
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>>15144805
That's the right answer according to the manga, but Rikafag's fanfic theory is that Beatrice is Rosa, and Kanon and Shannon are separate people
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>>15144820
Yeah at the Chicago con Ryukishi went to a few people tried pushing the Rosatrice theory down mine, and everybody else's throats. Apparently there was some eight hour long video explaining it or whatever. I can see how it could be interesting, but you need to stretch a lot in order to make it work. Seen Rikafag push it a lot, and although I surprisingly agree with more stuff than I'd like to admit with them, even if the manga didn't exist explaining the answers it's pretty obviously Shannon/Kanon. Episode 7 even makes it pretty damn blatant. Rosatrice is just trying to be contrarian.

If anything Erika's body washing up on Rokkenjima, and not being counted as a person, should be a huge clue supporting that either way. Granted I never read the manga for the specific answers, but I always assumed Yasu just used Erika's body in ep 1 to make it look as if Shannon was dead. Hidyoshi didn't know Shannon intimation, so he just screwed up. Then again that logic could be totally wrong. But it explains how they got an extra body.
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>>15143636
Natsuhi probably didn't even know that Jessica was in a band.
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>>15144893
>But it explains how they got an extra body.
There was no body. Hideyoshi and Eva were accomplices, and lied to George about it. That's why they didn't set the chain when they went to bed afterwards, they assumed Yasu would spare them since they worked together
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>>15144934
Man that whole bribe thing always gets me a little miffed. Especially when there were some other ways that you could have handled the mystery. Again with the Genji and Kanon entering the room thing. Their cover story was that they cut down the chain with an axe in order to get into the room. That is still a good explanation for how they got into the room, they just lied about Eva and Hideyoshi being dead when they entered the room.

And again with the whole of Episode four. Just replace the word bribed with threatened because Yasu and the servants were holding them all at gun point, and forcing them all to play along. Rather than paying all of the adults off to work with them.
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>>15144963
>the Shkannon explanation of the ending of ep 6 to not make sense.
How does it not make sense? There were 16 people, then Erika came, and now there are 17. It's really simple
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>>15144990
Don't reply.
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>>15144963
It's the specific wording. "Even with you joining us that makes 17 people." Implying even if we count Erika, there are only 17, as opposed to 18. That means without Erika joining them, there are, presumably, 16. Even if Erika always died on Rokkenjima and washed up as a body, that statement still holds true. After all, it's a statement made assuming Erika joined the conference, rather than if she actually joined it or not. In the hypothetical situation Erika manages to survive and join them on Rokkenjima, then that would make 17, as opposed to her assumed 18, if she doesn't join them, that would make only 16, instead of 17.
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>>15144992
I can agree to that. Kind of why I liked the story being ambiguous at the start. Everybody's own personal truth is valid, in the long run. It's supposed to be a catbox, left completely unopened. Honestly, even if there are real explanations, i kind of like the meta plot and everything else rather than the actual mystery. As retarded as it sounds, i always thought of Umineko as a story about a mystery, rather than being a mystery. And yeah there's a key difference between those two. It's about the characters analyzing, attempting to solve the mystery, and some lording their own personal truths over others.
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Reminder that the solution to ep 6's closed room problem is bullshit.

>>15144665
pic related
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Well we had a few days without over 9000 dels.
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>>15145330
Just keep reporting and ignoring it. A deleted post does no more damage once it's forgotten.
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I'm looking forward to Trianthology being released soon, so that we finally have something new to talk about here. I feel like we discuss pretty much the same things in every thread now
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>>15145522
Yeah agreed, with the occasional new thing once in a while. This should really make everything more lively.
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how does it feel to know that Umineko is religious in nature?
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>>15145541
Now that you've mentioned that, I have to post this again

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/christian-book-reviews-forum/umineko/
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>>15145541
>>15145552

Doesn't matter to me, had fun and Erika was a blast.
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>>15145541
You're right. The whole point was that Beatrice wasn't real, just like God isn't real
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>>15145541
Not really. If you've interpreted "magic" as having metaphysical religious context to it, that's not it. Magic is love, acceptance, and letting go. It's transcendent, but has nothing to do with religion.
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>>15144665
Lambda is so sexy there, but just sexy nothing else.
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>>15145615
But Beatrice Ushiromiya was real. I wish there's a fragment where she can live happily.
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>>15145661
fuck
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>>15145636
Magic is more of a personal belief, one that you know isn't true, but still trust in it. Hence why only those who know magic isn't real, but defend it, are proper witches.
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>>15127254
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What the fuck is a sound novel anyway? Isn't it literally just the same as a visual novel?
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>>15145825
If you have nothing interesting to say, don't say anything.
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>>15145839
I want to kiss Eva-Beatrice
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>>15145839
No, I'm genuinely wondering why Ryukishi refers to all his stuff as sounds novels. As far as I can tell, it's pretty much just a VN. I don't think I've ever seen any other companies call their work sound novels either
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>>15145851
There isn't really special CGs to unlock and view, so the graphics aren't the selling point of it. He uses sound effects like cicadas and seagulls crying and wind howling to set the mood and atmosphere to compliment the story. Can't forget ahaha.wav.
And the soundtrack is great too.
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>>15145876
If that's the case then the console ports would be actual visual novels, right? Since they have CGs and animations and such.
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>>15144893
I rememer when those tumblrinas did that shit in line for either Ryu's panel. Those hos where spoiling shit and talking like Rosatrice was a real thinf so I started blasting music off my phone to drown them out.

On a positive note I'm so glad I got to meet Ryukishi last year. Too many of my entertainment idols are dying bruh.
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>>15145970
>r07 will commit suicide in your lifetime under mysterious circumstances
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>>15146007
Dude why this?

>tfw he will take every secret about the witches into the grave
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>>15146007
Don't say that. He's 42 though, so he'll probably die before you anyway
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>>15145962
Seems about right.
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Here you go anons.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzdNfLGacG1rbHZGVjdVc0VfNXc&usp=sharing
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Anyone have that Dlanor and Erika Last ride meme?
Please post so I can save it. Thanks.
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>>15147143
Thanks, that's pretty cool. Some of them don't actually look that bad from different angles
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>>15145970
There was a moment in line for the second panel, where the entirety of 07th expansion walked past and nobody in line reacted at all.

And yeah I'm glad I met the guy there too. Got a signed copy of the first four eps. he seemed more excited about the damn thing I was, bless his heart. I hope he'll stay alive long enough for me to get 5-8 signed. I want to shake his hand a second time.
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>>15147617
Yeah I was a little nervous at first, but now seeing more of them the sprites look okay for some of the characters.
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>>15147725
Something about Kanon's clothes is just lewd as all hell. I can't stand that a boy is wearing them.
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>>15147473
Last ride meme?
I pride myself in my SeaCat meme collection but I can't recall a last ride.
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>>15147725
We need more cute Jessica in cute outfits.
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>>15147830
how about this?
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>>15147830
Here's one
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>>15147919
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Obligatory
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>>15147830
This counts, right?
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Ange is lewd
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>>15148133
Why are her boobs so H U G E?
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>>15148144
Pachislot gave her (and most of the other women) an upgrade in breast size.
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>>15148163
Sounds more like a downgrade to me.
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>>15148133
She's also lewd in the manga
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>>15147919
>>15147954
>>15147974
>>15147985
>>15148016
>>15148058
All of this is perfect, thank you Anons. I'm starting to seriously think that Jessica is becoming my waifu.
>>15148100
Yes it counts, technically Jessica is in it.
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>>15148191
This desu
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>>15148163
Is there a Jessica one? Or the stakes?
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>>15148301
have the Jessica overkill.
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>>15148768
Yeah, I scanned all of them. Here's a link.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzdNfLGacG1rbHZGVjdVc0VfNXc
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>>15148768
And here's Jessica's
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>>15148958
nice.
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>>15148163
>>15148958
obviously Luci didn't get one.
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>>15149026
They may not have given her larger breasts, but they did make the bottom of her outfit higher cut.
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>>15149026
She doesn't need one, she's already perfect
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>>15149054
true that.

>>15149049
did Battler design it?
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>>15148774
Thank you Anon, my life is not complete. I don't know, a lot of umineko girls are good, but Jessica just has that level of spirit to her, while still being occasionally girly and feminine.
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>>15149076
^ Now, not not.
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>>15149076
Still i always wonder how she gets her clothes past "act like a lady" Natsuhi. I don't think Natsuhi would view miniskirts as very ladylike.
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>>15149092
Maybe it was a compromise? Maybe the original outfit she wanted to wear was way more lewd than her current one? In comparison this one is way better, to her?
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Is there any fan art of Jessica wearing Erika's dress? Erika was just borrowing it from Jessica after all
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Not that i know. Only a pic of Jessica wearing Erikas dress.
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>>15149119
You weren't the only one that asked about it.
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>>15149127
>>15149119
Yeah. Maybe i SHOULD have read that more thoroughly...
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>>15149076
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>>15149139
I still don't regret asking that. She looks cute in it.
>>15149153
I have not considered bathing suit Jessica. That works extremely well.

Umineko has a lot of underrated girls, now that I think about it, especially compared to Erika, bern, and lambda.
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>>15149205
Looks like ange isn't the only one with an ungodly short skirt.
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>>15149205
Too bad the sprites will never be shown from that angle in game
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>>15149211
>>15149219
I really wished the games had back view sprites. There are so many great asses in this series.
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>>15149225
I know right man? It's a total loss there. Then again what actual VNs usually have back shots?
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>>15149231
Muv-luv had a bunch of great ass-shot sprites
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>>15149225
>>15149211
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>The only character I could use to make Jessica in TTT2 is Xiaoyu

At least I still have Forest George, I guess.
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>>15149312
J-jessica ass a great!
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>>15149354
I've been working on these for a while. It's still a work in progress though.
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>>15149471
It's all good Anon, you're doing god's work!
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>>15149808
That reminds me, I actually did a shop like that years ago, but never posted it. How's this?
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>>15148163
>upgrade in breast size

START POSTING SHANON NOOOOOOOW!
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>>15149975
Looks pretty good, there's a little problem with the ass and the outlines, but everything else looks pretty good, actually.
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>>15149987
Here you go.

>>15149992
Yeah, I might get around to fixing it at some point.
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>>15150062
I wanna cover her mutilated genitals in my seed.
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>>15150062
You know some of the pachinko character designs are fine, but can somebody tell me what the hell is up with Battler, Beatrice and KRAUSS of all characters. They just look the most off to me. Especially Krauss's ugly old man face.
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Anyone want to request or suggest seacats characters for me to doodle? I'll try not to be as messy with my sketches, I just really want to draw something. Nothing too lewd or detailed though, my anatomy is ass.
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>>15150273

beato dress lift
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>>15150273
Battle giving ange headpats.
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>>15150273
Anything with Virgilia would be nice.
As much as I Erikapost, Virgilia is still my seacat waifu.
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>>15150093
>Especially Krauss's ugly old man face.
It's because the art is based on the manga
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Perverts.
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>>15151108
Where do you think you are?
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>>15151137
Silence, virgin.
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>>15151154
I hope Battler gropes your chest in your sleep.
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Sleep tight, seacat.
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>>15150273
Ange snorting cocaine.
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>>15151103
I'd rather not expose myself to scantily clad landwhales, thanks.
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>>15152050
why would she?
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>>15150469
Ask Battler how she deals with perverts.
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>>15154139
What if Kanon asked her to?
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>>15154230
I guess that would be something different then.
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>>15150273
How about Battler Being Surrounded by ange, Beato and Virgillia, smiling happily?
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>>15154482
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>>15154641
Is Loli ange disappointed that her adult self doesn't wear pantsu?
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Gather round my fellow mystery solving seacats for I have an easy riddle for you this time.

Kinzo, Battler and George have been caught by an evil witch.

She, being evil, wants to execute them but proposes a riddle which if they can solve in under 30 minutes they are allowed to go.
Each of them are placed in a single line facing forward like this: Kinzo > Battler > George

Each one of them will wear a hat, either black or white, they cannot see their own hat only the one in front of them. So Kinzo can see Battlers and Georges hat, Battler can see Georges hat and George cannot see any hat.
Only one of the guys has to guess their own hat color in order to solve the riddle. There is atleast one white hat and atleast one black hat hat

After what seems to be ages, Battler suddenly knows the answer and just before 30 minutes solves it. How was Battler able to solve the riddle?

I'd appreciate that those who have solved it would give a bit time for those who can't figure it out to figure it out on their own as it is a bit easier than last time.
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>>15156012
If Kinzo saw either two black hats or two white hats in front of him, it should mean his would be the opposite since there's at least one of each color hat. So it would look like:
Black > White > White
White > Black > Black
But because Kinzo sees a white hat and a black hat in front of him, he is unsure which his is and doesn't respond.

Battler realizes this after Kinzo has been silent for so long (and not because he's already dead), which means the color of his hat must be the opposite of George's.
White > Black > White
Black > White > Black
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>>15156012
Battler can figure out his hat based on Kinzo's lack of response. If Battler and George's hats were the same color, Kinzo would immediately figure out the color of his own hat by process of elimination. So since Kinzo hasn't solved it yet, it must mean that Battler's hat is not the same color as George's... That or Kinzo's been dead since the start of the riddle and that's why he never spoke up.
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>>15156012
I think I figured it out.

If the hats that Battler and George were wearing had the same colour, Kinzo would be able to figure out that his hat was the opposite colour, since there is at least one hat of each colour.
Since Kinzo could not figure it out, Battler and George must be wearing hats of opposite colours.
Thus, whatever colour of hat George is wearing is the opposite of Battler's hat colour.
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>>15156177
>>15156240
>>15156251

Too easy. I'll make sure to make it more difficult next time.
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>>15156283
It would have been harder if you didn't mention who solves it. I thought it was weird at first that someone with less information would do it, which led me to realize that Kinzo's lack of response could be used as information.
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>>15156283
>Badass meta Witch/Sorcerer here.
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>>15156283
From the start this riddle was something only Battler could solve. I can just picture George and Kinzo figuring out the trick to the riddle 2 minutes in, only to be forced to stand there in silence praying that Battler doesn't fuck up.
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>>15156283
The riddle of the hats. Easy.
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As an alt solution can't they just agree to all say the same color since only one needs to guess their own color. At least one is guaranteed right.
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COCAINUM
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beato
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Does anyone have this? The download link on the artists site is dead
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>>15150628
And here's another one.
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>>15158787
Dlanor is not for lewd.

That said, do continue.
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>>15158909
Will do. Here, have some Erika humiliation for now.
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>>15159217
Is Bern ordering Erika around now?
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>>15159264
Of course she is.
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>>15159377
Disgusting
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>>15159387
Eh, it was a rushed job.
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>>15159377
That is in no way sexy, erotic or anything resembling erotic. That and she wears stockings.

Your local philistine signing out.
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>>15159863
I'll be sure to do a proper edit of Erika some time soon. any suggestions?
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>>15159948
Erika is not for lewd
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>>15159948
If you're really set on making something pleasing to the eye, in my humble opinion which should be the only opinion you take in to consideration, naked is absolutely disgusting.
Subtlety is gold.
For example >>15149205 is amazing. The subtle butt hanging out yet not revealing too much.
Same with Ange skirt. It's short, and her butt does show, but it never reveals the jewel, which retains the mystery and intrigue of the hunt for lewd. Too much and you're just crossing in to the territory of crude pre-historic apeman porn. Instead you should strive for the noblemans subtle fanservice which gets the heart racing and the imagination running of all the men around the world. What's so sexy about a naked ape? Nothing.
It's the clothing that humans have refined over thousands of years to perfection that compliments the curves of a body, gives artistic color and architectural contrast and draws the eye to the parts that deserve it the most while covering the parts that would look ugly without the aid of clothing.

Hope that gives you an idea.
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>>15150469
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>>15150288
>>15150328
Should've posted these earlier, hope they're ok. Might do some more later.
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>>15162121
Need Bern things
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>>15162121
need more Virgillia and Ange head pats in my life, thank you anon.
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>>15162128
Anything in special? I've drawn Bern a few times before.
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>>15162257
I don't know. You said you didn't want to do any lewd things, so I guess whatever you can think of. Maybe an evil grin.
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>>15162005
I was originally planning on removing it all. I ended up leaving that piece because I wasn't sure if it would be alright to post it with the slit exposed.
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>>15162257
Make her look cool or serious, don't make her with evil grins etc, its overused.

Make her look nice but still with an impassive expression.
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>>15162289
maybe combine that with her hanging out with Battler? Very little fanart of when Bernkastel was supposed to be on "his side".
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>>15162326
Make comfy things yes.

Avoid "shipping" or neko kind of things like you did before. You can also try to use other kinds of clothing if you like.
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>>15162121
Lovely, she looks nice in your style.
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>>15162346
Now I kind of want to make it nekomimi just because you said that. I don't think I really made anything "shippy" either, at least not on purpose.
But sure, I'll try everything suggested once I have some time again.

>>15162361
>>15162243
Thanks, and no problem!
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>>15162534
Don't talk to it - report it
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>>15162628
>He wants avatarfagging attention whores to take over the threads again
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>>15162633
>being gay
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>>15147731
That picture makes it look like Kanon has a pussy or something

Oh

I realized I am retarded before I could press send
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>>15148264

As nice as her butt looks, covers like this one are what prevented me from getting Umineko's manga.
I would have preferred something classy or cool, covers like this don't represent the content at all and clash with the tone of the work.
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Why do people see Umineko in strictly the magic or the trick definitions?
pic related, theres a much better way to explain it without losing any of it's goodness (trick, you lose all the cool magic battles and basically all the games; magic you lose all the shkanon stuff and Tohya/Ikuko Hachijo stuff which was well done)

>>15150273
never thought i'd see you here, only ever see you on tumblr and twitter
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>>15163170
Yeah I feel like it's an aspect totally lost one way or the other. The best way is to think of it as a middle ground. A cat box if you will.. Which is why I don't like the manga's ending. The series specifically ended in a cat box, the actual events were only something Battler and Beatrice knew.
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I'm still relatively new to Seacats threads. Would someone mind explaining to me why several posts keep getting deleted? It seems to happen very frequently in these threads. Is it just the same people every time, or are these threads more strict about what you post?
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>>15163430
Don't worry about it. As long as you don't sweat it you should be all fine.
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>>15163430
Same people every time. There are two particular people who ban evade and avatarfag and attention whore themselves in every thread.
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>>15163430
You can post whatever you want as long as it's not RP.
Erika posting is allowed but is discouraged and frowned upon.
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>>15163430
I believe Rikafag and Juliette are permabanned, so every post they make is against the rules. And yeah, it's just those two
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>>15163437
>>15163438
>>15163451
Okay, thanks. I was getting a bit worried.
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>>15163451
I can do whatever I want and there's not a thing you can do about it.
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>>15163467
It's all good, just post cute girls. Starting with underrated witch.

Or post whatever theories/complaints/compliments whatever the hell you want. We're pretty flexible.

Great doujin ideas are also welcome. Anything really as long as you're not a fag.
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>>15163512
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>>15160063
Both of those where my posts. I sort of agree. I think both nude and clothed have their own appeal depending on the mood you're in. The only reason I mostly do nude edits is because it's harder to work with clothes. I plan to branch out more once I've gotten more experienced, but for now I'm kind of a one-trick-pony who has to settle for cheap eroticism.
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>>15163580
It's all good anon, the only place we can go is up, right?
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Poor Juju
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-old-survives-fall-cliff-kills-mother-145838675.html

Is this yasu?
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beato
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>>15163898
>>15163898
I'm glad to see that juliette is finally getting what she deserves. She should have been banned long ago.
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Which stake would you use?
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>>15165163
All of them
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>>15165653
Only correct answer.
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Let's talk about all the theories we used to have and discuss
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>>15167774
>Evatrice theory before I learned that Evatrice was a thing.
That was a dumb theory I used to have that died as soon as I read episode 3.
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>>15167774
I had a pretty consistent "Black Battler" theory up until episode 5, when Knox's Decalogue was introduced.
After that, I concluded that the servants were highly susceptible, every single one, except Gohda, he's pure.
But when I read episode 8 I was kind of shocked at seeing the Battler culprit theory appear suddenly.
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Jessica and Eva's voiced screams are horrifying
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>>15168637
Can you share your theory? I'm curious.
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>>15168958
Anges scream in ch7 tea party as Bern tortures her while she's chained to the chair still sits in my mind.
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goodnight seacats
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Anyone have that vector looking Erika wallpaper?
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Why is Ange holding her ass?
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>>15173515
Wants sum fuck
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>>15173515
Maybe her butt hurts?
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>>15173627
From what?
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>>15173813
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>>15173813
>>15173832
falling off from a building
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>>15169820
For Battler? As in, the solution to most of the murders?
I don't remember a lot on each individual, but there were a few things that stuck in my mind.
A lot of it relied on Battler bribing the relatives.
>first game, second twilight
Battler had Kanon/Kumasawa kill Eva and Hideyoshi, destroying the chain to enter the room.
>first game, fifth twilight
Kanon injured himself in the boiler room, probably while swinging his giant axe-knife. Seeing his chance, Battler shot Kanon moments before the others arrived. Kanon died of his wounds later.
>third game, first twilight
Battler disguised himself as a corpse to fool the relatives within the locked rooms. Beforehand, he killed one of the other 6 but hid the corpse in a different place. This way, it abides the "6 people: Kinzo, Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda, and Kumasawa are dead!" red truth.
>There is no one hiding in the six rooms!
Battler wasn't hiding, his corpse was in plain sight.
>Only the victims are inside the rooms, and no other people exist inside the rooms.
Again, Battler, disguised as another, was technically "dead" and thus a victim.

>fourth game
Battler created the illusion that he was in the guest room all along while tending to the captives. Nothing about this was really sealed in red.
Really dumb, but oh well.

>>15168958
>>15170319
Alternatively: Ange's screams when confronting the book of one truth in ep 8.
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>>15175136
Hey, in hindsight most things are dumb.

I thought Battler was actually Kinzos through some sort of a wordplay.
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>>15176326
Stuff like that was always fun to think about. The stillborn child from Asumu brought up lots of crazy and fun guesswork, like Jessica being the other Battler which was given to Natsuhi.
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>>15172872
Anyone?
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>>15176530
Can you be more specific?
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>>15176530
Would it happen to be this?
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>>15176564
Yes! Thank you very much.
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Let's try to be a little more pleasant the next time, okay? Too much unnecessary hatred,
Now, I think it's time for a magic trick. I'm going make this little thread... disappear!
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goodbye seac-
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