General Nutaku and DMM Thread 100

Do you guys play any nutaku that isn't FKG?

So uh, Rowana. Should I bother getting a second copy to mincost her once?

>>15093611
Aigis. When it has anything to play.

Is there a database where i can search girls based by their VA/ artist?

>>15093617
What do you mean?

>>15093625
Its currently on a week break, not worth playing when it is.

>>15093625
Nutaku Aigis gets unnecessary breaks between events

>>15093656
what, like no events or something?

>>15093569
I'd say so, reported a small bug about stamina and got 2 flower gems for it today.

>>15093620
What game?

>>15093673
Yes, theres no event till tommorow so its dead till then.

>>15093679
any
I know i can use the wiki to search kancolle by their saihou but in general do other games are like that

>>15093681
what about new players?

>>15093692
They can play it I guess, would be better for them too to have a event though.

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Unbelievable! Talk about close shave.

>>15093759
Good job, you finished the map I couldn't do for over a year.

>>15093776
Welp, not a year but I've had my share of tries.

It's hard staling your units or gimping them enough to have the one doing the long road reach that pesky pest. And this was the only time that unit actually took the final fork in the path. All while being bombarded by flies. And reaching the end with only the rainbow with 1hp.

Truly a nightmare.

Is there a good map to farm fairies/Secret Gardens on Nutaku FKG? Affection Items and Dragons don't seem useful when your team is still too weak.

>>15093804
5-4 is apparently the go-to spot for a balance of exp/secret gardens and 2-1 if you just want gardens.

Osawari island, what is the provocation stat for?

Anyone else getting an error from the nutaku site? It won't let me delete my account.

>>15093845
Thanks, so to be sure, the level of the Secret Garden is independent of the stage you are in right? Or if I want the Intermediate Secret Garden, I would need to run 5-4?

>>15093912
Secret Garden level is dependent on the stage, and if you're looking to farm it you want the beginner one because of how stamina inefficient intermediate is.

For FKG raid bosses, does it matter how much damage is inflicted, or is it basically like a participation award, and even if you only do one damage you still get rewarded type of thing?

>>15093928
The latter.

Anyone gets the same reward no matter how much they contribute, as long as the boss is killed in time. Whomever finds the boss gets an extra reward.

Fuck these 6 stars are hard to get. How did FKG get so popular with these shit rates?

>>15093934
Alright, thanks, and here I was spending 2-3 raid points every time one showed up.

>>15093945
Have you been rerolling too?

>>15093945
They can whale or flat out purchase their favorite rainbows on DMM server.
And freemium players usually settled with with the fact that rainbows won't just fall like candies into their laps.

>>15093945
>How did FKG get so popular with these shit rates?
Constant updates, cute girls and quite possibly the most attentive dev team on DMM. When FKG began, there were no searches, no secret gardens, no individual sprites for grass/bronze/silver girls (they're still adding these), no garden, no sorting options, no dailies, weeklies or character quests, no nation defense maps, no ultimate maps, no equipment locks, no anything. Gacha chances were 0.5% for rainbow, 3% for gold, 15% for silver and 81.5% for bronze. You could misfire your solar drive, and girls would frequently attack dead pests on fast forward mode.

Then the dev team did pretty much everything it was asked to do to improve the game, including permanently doubling gacha chances, giving people free golds, holding almost constant 2 flowers/day campaigns, nerfing several event maps on the fly and implementing several dozen quality-of-life improvements. They also asked their audience what they wanted in new girls (since FKG players are good and righteous people, this turned out to be more loli characters) and delivered on that, and once dismantled an entire event mechanic because it wasn't well-received.

You don't really play FKG for its excellent gameplay (because it doesn't have any), you play it to see new girls every two weeks. It has high user retention because you can see how much its developers love the game and want to improve it instead of fucking over their users for their own benefit.

>>15093611
Aigis and FKG, sometimes i play Kanpani but devs are pretty much killing it.

Finally got through war of magic, by stubbornly throwing 2 days of stamina at it and hoping for the Cloris assassination rng.
What a fucking stupid map.

>>15094029
The male unit lock is more retarded imo.

>>15094009
About that... correct me if i'm wrong:
I remember that if you wanted to AW a unit with the dragons you needed an extra unit copy too.
Am i confusing with something else?

>>15094024
Kanpani girl is pretty fucked up, DMM server has been throwing new updates left and right for their players to do, while Nutaku throws high rarity girls into their players face, but has zero content update.

>>15094046
I am not sure, I don't recall experiencing that but I also didn't evolve girls until I was well into the Edelweiss event.

I do, however, recall them holding an emergency maintenance during Edelweiss event to reduce the number of beetles in each small fry node in the ?-8 map, during Yamayuri event to guarantee skill-ups from her upgrade flowers and during Calla event to scrap the entire locking mechanic.

>>15094053
I like Kanpani, i really do, and i like how nice the Nutaku devs are but...
I frankly can't stand anymore to farm the same map over and over again without new contents.
There's the real chance that Kanpani will be the next game to close.

>>15093912
If you want the intermediate secret garden, run 6-5.

>>15093922
If stamina isn't an issue and/or you want better chances of level 20/100 manyus, the intermediate garden isn't bad.

So I managed to get 12 medals for Lavender in FKG, what now?

>>15094350
Good, now keep building your team for next week, the resting 12 won't be as easy.

Oh hey, I finally won a Nutaku contest.

Strawberry the cutest 2*.

Wording on Satsuki's skill is weird. Is it just x2 damage against 2 enemies?

>>15094645
Good for you, how are you going to burn them?

>>15094706
My previous/first x11 roll was already a bust for the most part, so I won't do another x11 until the pool expands. I'll probably do a few single rolls to hopefully replace some more of my bronzes though.

>>15094754
Don't ever do single rolls, it's a waste of gems and nothing else.

>>15094041
That one was piss easy and I only have two male gold units at level 60

The character gallery finally got updated.
http://exhentai.org/g/921059/884db7e96e/

Event gallery never though.

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Dang. On DMM, I got at least one Gold per 11 pull. Guess I won't be as lucky here.

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>3 squads left at high life
>For the next 10+ moves, they run in circles while getting torn apart by the flies

fml

>>15095041
Rng Turns, final boss of FKG

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>>15095052
It continued until I got another 1k gold from it.

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>>15095041
Think about that dosh though.

>>15094995
Do it for us. I need to see all the events.

>>15095066
The bonus stages are better

>>15095066
If memory serves, one of the Yorugao maps can be set to consistently give you ~25k gold.

>>15095024
It's roughly 50% to get at least one gold and 5% to get at least one rainbow per 11 pull.

Campaign that lets you choose one black+10 rolls from the revival gacha for 5000 dmm points on aigis please.

>>15095367
Aigis isn't garbage kuso likes FKG. Fuck off.

>>15092670

Someone hasn't seen the Rita zone.

>>15095413
A gimmick again some units isn't that useful

>>15095413
She is still the worst plat archer

>>15095437
Have fun with your Bashira and Spica against Furfur.

>>15095450
Have fun waiting for furfur event in 2020.
And the rewards are fucking shit

>>15095494
The counterattack lightning has come back twice since then, so that's 3 events in the last month and a half. Not to mention she's also good against classic old ranged attacks, like all the black goblins in this revival's god tier.

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>Red Chemchems.
Guys, I just can't.

Assistance por favor:
http://harem-battle.club/showthread.php?t=1279

Are they still censoring loli?

>>15095734
http://exhentai.org/g/923592/0a635fbc3e/

>>15095734
They won't be censoring in the future, supposedly. Still a lot of past edits to revert (notably OI).
FKG looks promising, there was only one edit, which got reverted after people found out about it.

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>>15094009
>(since FKG players are good and righteous people, this turned out to be more loli characters)
Based nips

>>15095375
I'd say FKG is better than Aigis in terms of not fucking your players in the ass.

>>15095775
>nutaku

>>15094084
You're still farming? I don't think I've actually played it for all of 2016 so far except to log in and see if I get a rare girl or not.

what to do with all the 2* lvl 1 girls in FKG?

>>15096120
They might share skills with higher rarity girls. Other than that, I've just been selling them.

>>15096148
>I've just been selling them.
L-lewd

Does anyone do anal inaigis?

>>15096336
Yes.

>>15096336
Chloe (loli fallen angel) loves anal.

>>15096336
Afaik, Chloe and Iris and most of the nuns.

Damn, the new fkg silver is cute.

>>15096354
Iris does? Which nuns? I only recognize the vampire hunter.

>>15096372
Not the black Iris, the gold Iris.

>>15096336
Shuka sure as hell does.

Anal is for homosexuals.

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Any tips on how should I place them?

>>15096437
pray to RNG

>>15096336
Gold Iris, Chloe, Dahlia, Cellia, Niel, Elva, and I think this http://exhentai.org/s/f66e5cb9bc/844803-234
is Flamel

>>15096437
One unit center that can solo the boss and everything else top hoping one turns and kills the shit below.

>>15096442
>sacrifice to RNG
Fixed.

>>15096424
Conrad definitely does anal. :^)

Was it a bad idea to CC Leanne? Her cost goes from 18 to 23.

>>15096445
That's a lot more than I thought. Sticking it in the wrong hole always excites me for reasons I do not understand myself, even if it's a shitty hole.

>>15096445
My bad, it's actually http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/?%B5%DC%C4%EE%B7%F5%BB%CE%A5%B5%A5%D3%A1%BC%A5%CD (Sabiine?)

>>15096494
It's rarely, if ever bad, to CC. Are you sure it goes to 23, though? Mine is capped at 21.

>>15093692
>any
you mean like this? for aigis
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/d/%b3%a8%bb%d5%ca%cc

>>15096336
Elizabeth and Dahlia do. among the others who where already mentioned.

When does the gold shop on DMM FKG reset?

>>15096619
Once a week, as far as I know.

>>15096619
Which gold shop?

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>>15096632

>>15096664
It specifies reset date right there on your screenshot. 4/25

Any tip for stage 8-5 in FKG? two bosses spamming their skill in the same battle is just too much for me.

that new rainbow in FKG with the flower lance and black dress/hose is cute as fuck... how much do i need to spend to get her?

>>15096701
>rainbow
Give up now.

>>15096701
Just wait for next ticket campaign.

>>15096701
>rainbow
Are you willing to give up your soul to RNG?

>>15096759
Will she be in it? I thought new girls aren't usually in those.

>>15096787
Tickets include everyone who was released before start date of campaign, so if they do another ticket at next anniversary, she should be in.

>>15096797
>next anniversary
So basically next year.

This tomose shunsaku really only knows how to draw one face. He's lucky I find the face appealing.

>>15096869
You say that like he needs to care about your opinion.

>>15096871
If he didn't care about my opinion, he wouldn't keep drawing girls with this face that I like. He clearly values my opinion very much.

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Nazuna confirmed for whale.

>Nutaku Facebook discussion about Rita
>Weaker than Shao
>At the same level than Bronze/Silvers
>Spica is better

Now:
I understand that Rita utility is surely particular, but comparing her to Spica already ridicolous and these other points are just stupid.

>Shao is better

I love this point, this is hilarious.

>>15096701

I feel your pain Anon.

>>15096902

It's hilarious how Nazuna sends girls who were on a beach vacation all the way into frigid mountains on a fetch quest.

>>15095748
awesome.

It's just like Tera and Mangagamer. Once they get started they realize it's silly to censor loli and give up

>>15095748
I expect a censorship on Lavender H-scene though, you know... about the blood.

I'm a retard and didn't notice the new thread.
>>15097293

silver ninja on nutaku when

>>15097299
2 hours 40 minutes

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>>15097301
you mean that's when I'm going to lose some hope I didn't even know I had

>>15097312
a man can have a dream

>>15097312
>>15097301
Also Nenya.

>two silver rogues in the same map.

Be ready.

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>>15097319
whyy deer god whyyy
(as animal)

>>15097319
>two rogues

Well the Kagerou completion drop was replaced with Pirate Verotte, maybe they'll alternate.

>>15097402
I prefer to see an archer frankly, it's ridicolous how in a archers event there's not a single silver archer in the entire drop pool.

>>15097421
kagerou and nonyan here

>>15094009
You'd think those dumb nips would ask for "better gameplay" as their first priority.

Too bad they're too lonely.

>>15097435
It does not need gameplay

>>15097448
Not having to lower the lifespan of my mouse by playing "pseudo cookie clicker" on the Next button would be one small step toward the right direction.

Not even Kanpani forces you to click through turns.

>>15097462
it would make game boring as fuck if there would not be even that much of player activity on game

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>Wakazita designed a girl for FKG
Oh shit that was like the only reason I tried playing Aigis a long time ago (for Anya). I can't wait till Nutaku FKG locali-

>Rainbow

Fuck this shitty game, worse than LoV.

>>15097476
>Not using that 6* ticket only for your n° 1 waifu

>>15097471
Clicking a next button over and over entertains you?

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>>15097488
isn't that locked behind 5000 DMM points?

It's not like Nutaku will ever have an equivalent either. They'll just open up a Nutaku exclusive shop to, like, buy gacha seeds or stat amps with Nutaku gold or something retarded like they did with Kanpani.

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>>15097488
>>15097502
And let's be real. If each rainbow is roughly 50 USD, I can get a high quality figurine of a waifu for roughly 3 rainbow girls.

Between having a few digital waifus that I will never be able to touch, or a life-like texture physical good I can rub my cock and hotglue all over, I think I'd rather have the physically tangible option.

I'm more of a onahole enthusiast.

>>15097511
Do you own any DMM game figurines, by chance?
I don't own any figurines, but I find the concept appealing.

Favorite onahole(s)?

>>15097502
Nutaku Kanpani devs gone full retard there, my sides hurts everytime i see the shop.
Still, it's not like Nutkau changes prices or anything, Kanpani shop is "special" because they added these things just for Nutaku players.

>>15097511
I've still the Gradriel and Len AFs, no regrets.
Still... an onahole eh? Uhm...

>>15097511
>>15097520
>>15097521
this is supposed to be kid friendly so leave onaholes be

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>>15097526

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>the current event girl is the least appealing of the 5 new girls

Well, I just don't like full Milfs I guess.
Slutty elves are always okay tho.

>>15097476
Good news, he designed 2 girls for FKG.
Bad news, both are rainbows.

Calliope drop again in nutaku event, Nenya still dead

>>15097591
dev tea probably doesn't care enough, we'll have to wait until nutaku takes over and brings the silly girls

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>>15097511
>I'm more of a onahole enthusiast.
Well, they could always release a novelty onahole, like monk Gina for Aigis. An Oncidium onahole would be especially fitting, since there are many orchids that imitate the shape or smell of a female insect to trick males into copulating with them, like Leporella (for ants), Ophrys (for bees and wasps), Caladenia (for wasps) and Pterostylis (for gnats). Some of these even trap their "suitor" in their flowers until it is thoroughly bathed in pollen, so clearly an orchid flower knight would not only be wonderfully fragrant and soft to the touch, but also lock her legs around you during sex and absolutely refuse to let go until you fill her insides and coat her entire body with your semen (and I mean that literally, some wasps ejaculate such a huge volume on Cryptostylis orchids that it can be seen with the naked eye).

Two Ophrys species even have meanings in the flower language, the fly orchid stands for dexterity and skill (in bed, clearly) while the bee orchid represents industry and error (probably in a "stop trying to impregnate flowers" kind of way).

>>15097604
Why are flowers so lewd?
Ever since I was a horny teen I thought flowers look seriously lewd, with how they're spreading themselves invitingly
And now you're telling me there are flowers that literally reverse rape insects, man

>>15097610
how does mushrooms seem to you since only thing that is above ground is their genitals

>>15097613
All those touhou futa doujins starring Marisa and her "mushroom" didn't help

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>Verotte takes Kagerou place again

Verotte confirmed for Ninja Pirate.

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the upcoming dmm aigis girl looks cute
More like a pirate than a tactician though

I'm enjoying Flower Knight Girl so I'd like to put $10 into the game but I don't know what to buy. It seems anything I'd want I can earn playing for free anyway.

Suggestions?

>>15097690
Buy physical merch instead.

>>15097698
Physical merchandise would increase the amount I'm wanting to pay from $10 to $100 and only a fraction of that $100 would go to the developers, so no.

>>15097690
Just put it into the game anyway and hope for a silver or two, maybe put some into storage.

Do you guys need to buy equipment slots for FKG?

>>15097690
Save the $10 for later when they offer better stuff and spend $30 instead or whatever.

I would recommend you spend it on DMM anyways, as with any Nutaku game, they can disappear at any time, apparently.
The DMM one also has money only rolls, which will give you only the best units.

>>15097718
You only use 80 at the very most (4 equip slots on all 20 girls) so you don't need to unless you have the OCD to have everyone with equipment. Not to mention that you won't be unlocking all the equip slots for all silver and up girls unless you whale

>>15097721
Not that either version is going anywhere anytime soon, but are you implying games only die on Nutaku and not DMM? Because lol.

What's the DMM FKG event girl's passive ability?

>>15097750
A game that was fairly high ranking on DMM and still doing well there, died on Nutaku.
That's all I'm saying.

>>15097750
FKG is constantly staying on top 10 so it won't dead anytime soon on DMM.
Can't say the same for Nutaku, especially how Kanpani Girl, which is also another popular DMM title, is dying slowly with no updates.

>>15097756
you mean QoV it had evolved on DMM

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Heads up for new event on Shiropro. Gather mats to construct the new girls. Chances on getting either the 3 star or the 5 star girl.

>>15097756
>>15097758
Meanwhile Osawari is faring better on Nutaku than DMM, and Saga and Hitsuji are still hanging on when they died on DMM, however inexplicable that is. I can cherry-pick examples too.

Regardless, FKG had the strongest launch Nutaku has seen, and as long as the devs keep providing updates, I don't see why it'll go the same direction as LoV or Kanpani. Besides, even Aigis is still hanging on in Nutaku, despite the barebones content updates.

>>15097772
Aigis is doing better than just hanging on. It's extremely successful.

>>15097772
What's your opinion of why LoV died? I myself don't really understand it.

>>15097778
It could be better if Dev Tea gave a damn, but that was more or less my point. Kanpani gets the same lack of updates and is dying. Aigis gets activity even as new updates are scarcer than they should be.

Granted, grinding in Aigis is a hell of a lot more fulfilling than endless +3 RNG failures.

>>15097783
no profit

>>15097783
I'm guessing it's simply because better card game battlers like it came along before it established the playerbase it did on DMM.

We had this discussion in an earlier thread how LoV is basically like Cinderella Girls. Horribly outdated "gameplay", but it still gets updates because the playerbase has set in at this point.

I can't speak for everyone, but for most of us Nutaku veterans, LoV was mostly a side thing while we waited for Aigis stamina to recover. Now that more games are out, there's less time to allot for it. DTM and DS being objectively better gameplay-wise probably didn't help LoV's case. And so it goes.

>>15097783
I assume the game had a low enough playerbase and wasn't earning enough money to justify renewing the contract like they did for Aigis

>>15097790
The Kanpani Girls team tried to use youtubers to promote their game (Einshine, MelonieMac, etc.), but most of the youtubers' fanbase hated the gameplay because you didn't control the characters (they like 3rd/1st person shooters/action games) or they just didn't play games in general.

>>15097805
Fair enough. I also just played LoV as a side thing.

>>15097822
>youtubers' fanbase

Rita was the event where the first subjugation started right? Can't wait for Nutaku to wrestle control from the devs, as horrible as that may sound.

>>15097830
I suppose I mispoke before, as Einshine specifically thanks Nutaku for sponsoring the video, despite him plugging Kanpani Girls (and Kanpani Girls giving out serial codes to a good handful of other channels.)

That Einshine guy has 800,000+ subscribers, I consider that a fanbase. What would you call it?
Here's his video: https://youtu.be/kSJkwmX33Kc

Bottom line is, being on DMM or Nutaku doesn't say anything about how stable the game's life will be.

LoV was little more than a distraction and went to the grave.

Aigis needs full and constant attention, but resources get used up quick, so players can easily balance games and bounce back to it. Aside from the people who didn't get over the initial grind to pass the story gates, or the retards who ask for more breaks, anyway.

Kanpani is another side thing where you afk and do the same things. I'd like to say the lack of updates on top of "too much free stuff" is what killed its activity, not the other way around.

FKG's gameplay isn't engaging either, but most people know how waifu-driven it is, and more importantly, Nutaku is establishing its no-edit reputation very well. So it falls on the devs to keep the game fresh with updates.

If you look at Nutaku's other games, you can see a similar trend, regardless of the gameplay or lack thereof. Pero and Osawari are still in the top 3, despite both being demanding clicker and whaling games. Hell, Osawari's main problem is unique in that it gets TOO many updates with little break in between. And I hear Pero's updates, while frequent, are shorter than they used to, for whatever reason.

tl;dr: Give players shit to do, and most people will overlook however shitty your game is compared to Aigis.

>>15097856
I consider them idiots

Why do these event enemies in fkg dmm deal so much damage despite me overlevelling them?

>>15097871
Awakening the units will be needed.

>>15097873
Evolving them?

>>15097878
yes dragons

>>15097856
The video titles alone have given me cancer.

>>15097884
Youtube has a clickbait pandemic.

His content isn't terrible though, compared to the other youtubers that the younger generation/young adult women like.
Also he is a Japanese born citizen residing in Japan, despite acting otherwise.

>>15097856
>he cleans up after all that littering
Heh, that was kinda humorous
Dunno why would anyone watch these on a regular basis though, but at least I haven't died from second-hand embarrassment with this one

>>15097856
This is one of the more cringeworthy things I've seen as of late.

I have one skill awakening fairy. Do I use it on Despara, Nanaly or Mikoto? Which would give the highest returns?

>>15097894
>His content isn't terrible though, compared to the other youtubers that the younger generation/young adult women like.
This guy seems like that exact thing. I doubt anyone above their teens would find this guy anything but an embarrassment.

>>15097856
Couldn't even make it past 1 minute

>>15097644
Fuck damnit dev tea, just give the fucking silver ninja already.

>>15097092
I started leveling Shao to have a third archer that is superior to Soma and cheaper than Stray and now this event comes along and hands you yet another platinum archer. I don't even know how to hold all these archers anymore.

I love Rita's movements on the map, I deliberately made sure not to deploy any troops near her just to see what she'd do next. Good times, like Azami's event.

>>15097929
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B1%A2%CD%DB%BB%D5%A5%DF%A5%B3%A5%C8
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%C7%F2%A4%AD%BC%CD%BC%EA%A5%CA%A5%CA%A5%EA%A1%BC
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%CB%E2%BD%F7%A5%C7%A5%B9%A5%D4%A5%A2
Here's some links.

>>15097908
I've seen all of the sponsorship videos for Kanpani Girls and his was the best, but there wasn't really any competition.

>>15097932
>This guy seems like that exact thing. I doubt anyone above their teens would find this guy anything but an embarrassment.
That's his audience, yes. I've seen the other youtubers they watch, he is one of the better ones. I watch some of his videos.

>>15097909
>This is one of the more cringeworthy things I've seen as of late.
Some of the cringy things he does is tongue in cheek (some not).

He's also popular with a lot of the j-vloggers there, so you'll see him through those people as well (Rachelandjun, SharlaInJapan, etc.)

What am I doing with my life?

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>>15097952
Are you his audience, anon?

>>15097951
I know, looking at her moving in the map makes me feel like watching The End in MGS3 somehow...

>>15097952
I know what they do, I'm just not sure which one is the strongest. Nanaly's sounds extremely underwhelming but against armors it could be good. Mikoto's skill CD might be too long to make this worth it and Despara gets a range decrease on her skill which sounds awful.

I mostly wanted someone else's opinion on which would be the least useless since I don't see myself getting another fairy anytime soon.

>>15097959
I know you are but what am I?

>>15097959
I'm not a teen, if that's what you mean. As I said, I watch some of his videos.
Sidenote: Any suggested channels?

>>15097962
I have no real knowledge on that. Sorry, anon.
I never payed attention to what other people commented about Despara's range decrease because I don't have one.

In fkg how does defense work. Like in aigis where def is just the amount of damage that is reduced so hp and def have almost same worth, or is it different? Also for characters that attack 2+ times like Marigold does the enemy defense get factored twice or just once.

>>15097962
Despara's is amazingly good. The range reduction is to compensate for how it not only nealry quadruples her dps, it also makes her attacks AoE, both of which make her kind of stop everything dead in its tracks.

Anyone still have that one webm with Lavender and the other yandere (was it Convallaria)?

>>15097968
Try this one)) youtube.com/killyourself

>>15097976
Hey, that's pretty good!
Thanks, anon.

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>>15097975

I´m new to doing Aigis event, so I need a little help on understanding how it works. I just beat 1-1 event mission, then all the other unlocked. Should I just finish the skip the other 4 and head to the last one? Is she a guaranteed drop as long as I clear the last level? Or do I have to farm her? Is it doable for a lv 26 with the free plat, and gold units + silver at lv 20 to get clear the last mission?

>>15097981
Ah, so it was Convallaria.

Thanks, anon.

>>15097984
Oh I´m on Nutaku, sorry for not clarifying.

>>15097984
She's farmable from every map, the drop rate increases with the difficulty.

There is no way you're doing more than the first three maps at your level.

>>15097984
You could look up a silver only guide and judge the last two levels by yourself but like the other anon said I doubt you'll be able to do it. Also the 100 charisma 2 stamina map is a God tier map as well and is really only for long time players who already have a maxed team.

This is a drop event though, so Rita can drop from all the maps. You also get free crystals from 3 starring maps so I dunno why you want to skip them.

So do you guys keep your ampules for the eventual Rainbow or do you just use em on your favourite golds?

Also how often do they drop? I just started last week and have a fair bit of them sitting in inventory.

>>15097974
It turns her into an extremely short ranged mage then? Do you think it is stronger than the other two?

>>15098007
>ampules
What are you talking about?

>>15098011
The ones that add hp, dmg or def directly.

>>15098017
Use them indiscriminately on your golds.
You get enough of them. Every third event will give you a large handful of them.

>>15097990
>>15098005
Great, I only wanted to skip the other maps because I thought she only dropped on the last. Do you guys have a estimate drop % chance on the lowest map? Also, any reason you want double of the same unit in Aigis? Do they get more max level if you combine the same units?

>>15098007
Maxed out my rainbows first, then used on golds who certainly get into any team, like Lavender, Cymbidium, Chocolate Cosmos, Strawberry and so on.

>>15098028
>Strawberry

Hm?

>>15098027
Event units have +2 cost from gacha units (units from premium roll)

Combining the duplicate Ritas from this event will give a chance to reduce her cost (100% first time, 50% second, etc) and increase her skill level.

Combining works for every unit but you don't want to do it early in the game with your Silver units, you will need those dupes for evolving and awakening.

>>15098027
No, they get a cost reduction and skill level up. The first one is guaranteed, which is why most people want at least 2 copies.

Also, avoid cost reducing your silvers early in the game, they are important to class change all your silver and above units.

>>15098021
What's that yellow text that pops up in the upgrade fodder slection screen when you try to use the green ampule on a girl? I can only tell something along the lines of "When defending, light chance to-"

>>15098028
I've got no rainbows though since I'm new, I've got 8 golds though. The way I see it, aren't rainbows strong enough at first to hold their own at first without buffs?

>>15098033
Yes, don't be an idiot like me using all the starter silvers as fodder and having to claw my way back now.

>>15098032
>>15098033
Thanks.

>>15098039
If I recall, it is pertaining to a new mechanic they added to make increasing defense more appealing.
I think the mechanic was to have a small chance of reflecting some of the damage that the enemies dealt to your unit.

>>15098027
You shouldn't worry about the drop rate for farming the event unit on the lowest maps, it's better to do the hardest one you can do

>>15098027
I'm just guessing the drop chances but assuming
-the 7 stamina one is 50%
-5 stamina should be ~30%
-3 stamina should be ~15%
-2 stamina should be ~5%
-1 stamina should be ~2%

Really just do the highest stamina one you can complete. Also even if you can't 3 star the map, you can still get the chance for Rita to drop if you manage to kill her, since the drops are set (eg Rita is the one who drops herself, if you let her reach the end you'll never get any drop no matter how many times you finish the map)

>>15098044
And now there's this checkbox in the confirmation screen for using the defense ampule, just a confirmation?

>>15098055
Yeah, just a confirmation.

>>15098045
I just want to know if it was viable to get her on the easiest map since my team kind of lack both lv, affection and I lack overall good units.

>>15098051
Chances seems alright. And I appreciate the tips. Do you also know how many event units people usually go for before they wrap it up for the event? Is it possible to get several event untis on the same map?

>>15098039
>The way I see it, aren't rainbows strong enough at first to hold their own at first without buffs?
Everyone is "strong enough" when dealing with events and stuff. But with challenge missions, you need to focus on your best units and maximize your first turn alpha-strike.

>>15098062
Great, gonna throw some on Dahlia because her defense is just piss poor.

>>15098070
You mean those daily missions that require lots of power?

>>15098068
You can probably do the first two or three with no serious problems. To do the 5-stamina and 7-stamina maps will take fully evolved teams with 100% affection.

One drop chance per run, because you can only get the drop by defeating the unit herself when she appears on the map.

>>15098068
>how many event units

It's up to you, some people might not care about certain event units so they farm silvers instead, etc.

Event units nowadays all have 2 more cost than the gacha units (eg, Bashira costs 15 after CC and default Rita will cost 17 after CC), so I'd at least aim to get her -2 cost (first one is 100% as well so why not). Archers are a very useful class though so it'd probably help in the future if you manage to get Rita's cost down even if she's not as powerful as the other plat archers.

Is there a practical place to farm 3*+ exp fairies on Nutaku FKG? My team is around level 30 and the 1* are pretty much useless at this point.

>>15098089
2-1 for 12 secrect garden will give 1 lvl 20 fairy at min. If you want to try the 50 garden you can do 6-1, but the rare chest is guarded by a rng turn. But rare chests have a chance at lvl 100 fairies.

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>>15098075
Listened to the advice, and I did manage to kill her on map 3.
>>15098086
Gotcha.

>>15098027
You never want to skip out on the easier maps, they give 1 SC for a 3*, that is a great drop that you use to refill your stamina, charisma, expand inventory or for 5SC gacha pulls.

What Nutaku/DMM game have the worst gacha in your experience?

Kanpani would be pretty high on my list for one pull at a time no matter what, but then I remember that you can get 5* on free draw (which I did), so is alright.

FKG seems to be bad, but right now gold and silver have some really qt girls.

Aigis is shit though. Never have I had no compulsion to do any draw at all, be it SC or gold.

>>15098161
Aigis is the worst. Not enough free SC is given for the rate that you get blacks. Units don't matter much in FKG and you can always buy your waifu during those campaigns. You don't get that option for Aigis.

>>15098161
Worst gacha? Probably FKG.

>>15098161
I'm gonna be weird and say Osawari.

Constantly expanding gacha, only the new ones are relevant for EP boosters and you never get them until after the event, if ever.

>>15098161
Aigis. Its rigged to spawn same useless golds despite it being statistically impossible.

>>15098161
FKG gacha isn't actually as bad as it seems as you get a ton of free gems. Some maps (dailies and events) give you 2 for getting all the medals, you frequently get bunch for logins, it's possible to find them on gatherings, you get 1 for every time you max a character's affection, and there's probably still something I'm forgetting.

>>15098161
KamiPro.
Gacha is filled with literally junk, and the devs are stringy as fuck with free rolls and even rewards.

>>15098161
FKG is by far the worst.
0,5% means a rainbow every 200 pulls.
3% is a black every 33 pulls.
I laugh when people call FKG devs generous.

>>15098161
I want to say that Kanpani wouldn't be so bad if you could roll for girls more times, but then I remember those videos of people who buy hundreds of disappointment stones and still get garbage with a Gold Mailbox. On the bright side, equipment does make a huge difference so you can still use your low rarity cuties, and for the most part only the 5 star girls have really broken equipment (Holly is god mode, Sion's utterly destroys everything, Ann Marie's really nice after the buff a few months ago since magic attacks never miss). Over at DMM, the recent raid boss equipment had a really good Soldier and Warrior weapon.

FKG has a very noticeable difference in power between rarities (waifu factor aside, there's no reason to use anything but golds and rainbows once you can fill your entire team with them) and the probability of drawing a rainbow is all kinds of hilarious/depressing, but there's constant events giving you maxed out golds (who tend to be pretty cute, anyway) so you never feel like you're fucked until you get lucky. You get a very steady supply of disappointment stones too, so you get to try your luck every few weeks. It will likely end in disappointment, but still.

Though I guess none of this actually answers the question of which one is the worst. In terms of experience, I'd probably give Kanpani Girls the title of worst, if only because storage is much harder to get and I constantly need to fire every useless 1 and 2 star characters. I guess you could argue that FKG's gacha is more balanced in terms of rarity distribution: in Kanpani, even 3 star characters are very rare so you're going to be stuck seeing and using the same characters for some time unless you get lucky, while on FKG you get more variety.

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Receive?

>>15098230
You get 22 pulls every two weeks. You can't say the same for Aigis.

>>15097690
There is a deal that gets you 2 guaranteed golds for 490 DMM points, so that's probably the best money can get. If you want to invest more, there are guaranteed rainbow campaigns for 5000 DMM points apiece. Extra garden commission items are also cash-point only at 100 points each, you may also buy some. Anything else can be obtained as a free player.

>>15097718
Each new event introduces four new equipment pieces, so yes, you'll need to drop a flower token on expanding the inventory every two weeks. But generally speaking, you should only expand your character/equipment inventory when you actually need that space.

>>15097753
10% boost to shine crystal drops and 10% attack to 3 girls.

>>15097871
Event enemies were modified to have lower HP and higher attack, possibly to make it faster to clear maps and prevent attack reduction teams from stalling them for decades.

>>15098007
It's patently insane to expect rainbows in FKG, so if you don't have them you should put them on high-tier golds. They drop often, but it takes 100 of each to max them out for each girl, so it will take a while before you hit the caps.

>>15098031
Probably means Strawberry Candle.

Sorry for the last post, confused DMM/Nutaku in some questions.

>>15098241
110 stones every 2 weeks? Are you drunk?

>>15098250
Its 11 for cost of 10, so only 100 needed for 22.

Seeing so many people mentioning Kanpani reminds me of:
Anyone know what the hell is up with Nutaku´s Kanpani Girl? It had a good start, most PR I have ever seen for a Nutaku game, a great event that compelled a lot of players to clear all the story missions to get guaranteed 5*. Several codes give away on their chat. And being in that chat seeing plenty of whale posting their results. And then fucking nothing for a long while till Christmas event for some fun weapons, and it just went silent. I stopped playing after new years event that was nothing really. Just what the fuck? It had promise, and they killed it so like that? No content, long paus between events, and no mention of it in their social pages (facebook, twitter).

I´m pretty sad, since that was the game I had the best luck, four 5* as a free player and was ready to drop cash on them.

>>15098260
100 stones every 2 weeks? Are you drunk?

>>15098265
No it's very possible.

Do the eyeballs in Aigis Crystal Keeper deal phys or magic damage?

>>15098261
They seemed to have some problem with content updates, and ended up relying on throwing 4 and 5 star girls like fucking nothing to their players to keep it alive, which isn't really working out.

>>15098265
That sounds reasonable. I've gotten my 22 pulls on Nutaku already and it's been less than a week, though most of that came from map clears.
As other anons have already said, FKG pretty much drowns you in stones.

Man, twice I received an error when finishing a FKG map today. All that stamina down the drain for nothing.

>>15098261
Low revenue => no events => revenue drops further.
Giving out 5* like candies is terrible idea, there's no point in investing money for users.
Forcing everyone to clear story missions as fast as possible didn't help too, as people ran out of content much faster than they should've if they would grind for proper levels instead ceo-scumming.

>>15098287
You can actually finish the map unless you get DC'd. Just don't click the button and you can finish the map

>>15098281
>>15098274
Events give 16 stones total (for 2 weeks) and even adding 2 stones login bonus for 14 days (which is not a constant occurrence) that's 28+16=44 stones.

>>15098290
The cash only dwindled when people realized early on that 1 month without events was no fun. New 5* girl never game till 2016, no reason for the whales to stay. Did the JP Kanpani have no events either?

Question really is, was Kanpani a game with no content, or is non h-game that is not Kantai fucked.

>>15098281
>though most of that came from map clears.
That's exactly the point. Almost all of that comes from map clears. Once you're not 3*ing 10 new story maps a day, you'll be getting closer to maybe ~30-35 Flower Gems every 2 weeks. It's like saying you get 40-45 SC a week on Aigis because the first like 20 story maps are a joke to 3* and then you get like 10 SC from level ups, and then more from the easy dailies.

>>15098278
Magic.

>>15098304
> Did the JP Kanpani have no events either?
New mini events and new girls every 2 weeks, major events and new story chapter once every 2 months or so. And recently, they just add new raid bosses.
In short, Nutaku fucked up big time.

Talking FKG here.
What do you do with duplicates bronze after you have unlocked all four equipment slots and done 5/5 on their skills? Do I sell it? Make a team of clones? Combine it with low levels? The free gacha is drowning me in bronze. What is the rate of silver on free gacha anyway?

Even these weekly events on dmm is starting to feel too long. How you people deal with Nutaku is beyond my understanding. Do all of you have the patience of saints?

>>15098260
I know you're FKG fanboy but this's delusion.

>>15098330
No, most of us just play other games. I feel like these time kill gacha games taking 1-2 hour of my life every day is a lot already.

>>15098323
According to user statistics on the jp wiki, 0.2%. Much worse than a rainbow from premium, but you're obviously going to be making a lot more pulls. It's something like 450 total pulls to have a net 50% chance of a silver.

>>15098336
No, its not delusion, its simple math. 11*2 = 22, 50*2=100.
As for possibility of getting 100 gems per 2 weeks, I'm not him and didn't say anything about it.

>>15098323
I sell off all dupe silvers and below. On DMM there's handy button which lets you sell off all of them with one click.

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>that messy black hair
>those crazy eyes
>that slightly frumpy yet sexy outfit
>tits are just the right size
>this expression
holy fucking shit why did nobody tell me there was a hex maniac archer sooner
my dick is fucking diamonds
forget bashira and spica, rita's going in the lineup with nanaly just as soon as I can CC her

>>15098346
Felt like I used all my luck yesterday when I pulled a silver from free pull. I wanted that luck for gold.

>>15098351
She's boring and ugly as fuck

>>15098242
I assume the increased damage part is after evolution?

>>15098348
There is?

>>15098370
nigga fight me
you're waifu a shit

>>15098347
>>15098302
>>15098307

>Finally manage to get 3 medals on the 80 stam blue dragon daily
>Error
This is pretty bullshit. Nutaku needs more/better servers.

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>>15098351
My archers on Nutaku are absolute dogshit and I have no choice but to add her at least until I can get Spica. I'm worried if I don't mincost her she'll probably be worse off than a silver because of how worthless her skill is for general use.

>3 teams going down one side on a 2-branch route in fkg

Dammit rng.

>>15098242
>Strawberry Candle

Ah. Damn, that's significantly less loli than I expected. Oh well.

>>15098394
On the upside, optical camouflage means she can deal with bullshit like black goblin archers with impunity, and post-AW she gets a passive double-shot, so her damage output isn't completely in the tank.

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>>15098211
>he didnt buy the hime package
>he isnt mono color

>>15098399
There are plenty of gold/rainbow loli characters, so don't worry. In fact, we'll probably continue getting a fair amount of them because FKG devs know their audience and have some refined tastes themselves.

Be sure to check on their stream on the 24th, they will probably do a preview of their upcoming characters.

Its really frustrating when you only need to clear one map for 2x FC to roll 11, but your teams keep fucking up the routing one the the easiest possible map.

What is fkg having on niconico?

>>15098548
>Mono color
And yet your leader has different element.

>>15098599
Heroes can be assigned any element by player's will, he is using dark element because there's light event, most likely.

>>15098616
Then it isn't a mono team.

>>15098412
>post-AW she gets a passive double-shot
Which is only 20%, chances are you will only see it only once in a battle.

>>15098648
1/5 is decent rate. It will even out in any long map.

>>15098656
I preffer solid numbers and less RNG bullshit.

>>15098198
Indeed, I pulled my 4th Stray today.

>>15098554
RNG is the final boss of FKG

>>15098672
You know a game is shit when the hardest part is the RNG.

>>15098395
Get used to that. It happens way more often than it seems possible.

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Now bear with me here, but what if they're the same person, or at least sisters/relatives?

>>15098712
Is that the same artist?

Is there no auto next in FKG? Does the DMM version have it? I rather just see what I got at the end than clicking through the map when it really doesn´t need any interaction after dropping the girls on their starting spots.

Do we have any madmen that rerolled for rainbows on FKG here? What was your method and how long did it take?

I'm debating whether or not it's worth it, especially since I'd probably never get one through playing legitimately.

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>>15098740
I don't know
It's http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3043057
He has a lot of nice Aegis fanart but I dunno if it's he who did the meido

>>15098745
Some dude in the last thread I think made 148 accounts before he got his rainbow tits. Why does FKG not have a chat link? Then we could see the whales post their results.

>>15098745
Someone last thread or 2 did. Think he said 168 account resets I think. Least around that number.

>>15098745
I think some guy rerolled 130+ times for the big titty girl. I'm not knowledgable about FKG, but I think she was one of the max rarity ones

>>15098758
How do you reset your account?

>>15098761
You just register new one with throwaway email.

>>15098756
>>15098758
>>15098759
That was Black Baccara, and yes, she's a rainbow.

>>15098744
There is no autonext on DMM either.

Does the alpha team not matter in FKG? I provide my "friends with 50k support team while theirs hover on 28-30k.

>>15098198
>statistically impossible

nope

>>15098786
They probably have ~50k support teams too, you just don't see it that way because affection bonuses do not appear on the ally screen.

The first team doesn't matter beyond determining movement order, and sometimes it's better to spread your better girls evenly across your teams. But it's still common courtesy to put your best team on the first team of your first set and do these on second sets onward so that you provide a good assist team to your allies.

>>15098786
affection and equipment don't count for support and support char levels are capped by the highest level in you team. IE you have 40 is your highest level char so their chars are at 40 even if their real level is higher.

>>15098756
>>15098758
>>15098759
Jesus Christ. That 0.5% rate is no joke.

>>15098767
I'm tempted, but that's a crazy number of rerolls. How'd you do it? Just use the free 10 gems handed to you, do 2 rolls and restart?

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She is damn too cute.

>>15098870
Show me her face.

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>>15098891

>>15097604
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/587532

It seems that the number of things I haven't masturbated to is becoming smaller and smaller every day.

>>15098913
Uff I need her.

>>15098850
It wasn't me, I only rolled around 18 accounts for a gold. But yes, that's more or less it, though you can also break the sequence of the tutorial and get a faster roll off by clicking gacha in between screen transitions.

And wow, after 40 rolls of nothing, Aigis is suddenly being kind to me. Got Hexer Eva, Ninja Hina, Samurai Shizuka and Dragonrider Nadia in rapid succession, too bad they all have rather niche classes though.

>>15098939
Nadia as niche as she can be, she is a very good unit. She tanked all these trolls in the great mach like nothig.

Got my first event sniper girl. Do people usually get 10x of the event unit and combine them? Or is it waste of time to max their skills? Do the cost decrease by 2 at most?

>>15098753
It looks like the names match. He must really like the game.

>>15098949
Good to know, thank you.

I've got a solid foundation for burst damage, but don't have much in the sustained tanking department, so I guess I should raise her after getting Fedora up to par.

>>15098939
>though you can also break the sequence of the tutorial and get a faster roll off by clicking gacha in between screen transitions
Really? That's pretty cool, I'll have to try that. I assume after a refresh it just puts you right back on the tutorial path?

>>15098953
Event units usually cost a ton compared to gacha units of the same rarity. And they also tend to have more levels in skill. So yes, it is a good idea to mincost and skillup event units at least to -3. Cost reduction for event units goes up to -6, I think?
This particular girl is very niche, other platinum archers are stronger in general sense. She will be nice to have if you manage to mincost her, I guess, but nothing special
Also ask your dick. Do you like her design and want to use her? If dick says yes, go farm her

>>15098969
She can tank everything, except the mithril golem (but she can with the help of some HP up buff units or a hex to reduce its damage.

>>15098978
Very informative. My heart and penis say yes. Guess I will max her if I can farm enough of her before the event ends. Nothing better to spend the stamina on anyway.

>>15098998
what maps can you do? Early maps have seriously shitty drops so make sure to farm the hardest one you can do

>>15098599
And that is a problem because?

>>15098978
>>15098998
it's -5 for all event units that I know of, normal CR for gacha units is -3

>>15099031
I can kill her and survive at the third one. Did not have enough stamina left to try the harder one. I got the basic free units at around lv30.

>>15099065
Is the minus cost always guranteed for every combine? Or is it like skill lv up with lower % each time?

>>15099090
Lower each time. 100% for the first, 50% for the second, 25% for the third onward.

>>15098953
Event units are good to level easily, just use 2 lvl 15 copys with 2 plat fairys for 5000 exp.
They normally cost +2 over a normal plat (Bashira not Spica in this case) and can be CR by 5 instead of 3.
As for skills, her skill is very niche, but if you using her you want it as good as can be.

If you're farming the last map for lvl 15 Rita, It'll take roughly 8 plat fairys and 8 copies of Rita to hit lvl 50, last map also drops plat fairys often enough.

I've gotten super lucky with her and already gotten 8 copies, with 2 SC spent and a level up, shame she's refused to CR past the 100% CR though.

Lastly if you don't want to level her, copys can be given to level other plat archers, not as much as Rita would give herself but still decent enough.

>>15099090
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Unit_Combination#Cost_Reduction

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Nazuna is up to no good again. Is there anything this woman can't do?

Other than being a playable flower knight

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>>15099102
>>15099131
Great appreciation.

>>15099143
NAZUNA ACUTE
ACUTE!!!

>>15099143
She can't be my wife.

>>15099215
Are you sure you want to marry a remorseless slave driver with a questionably intact psyche?

>>15099266
How is this different from any other marriage?

>>15099266
Who cares she's cute.

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I'm not into yanderes, never been, but there's something about Convallaria, never felt this way before...

>>15099411
Pew pew

>>15099411
Do you even have to aim specifically at the womb? I'm a virgin so I don't know

>>15099438
Yes, you have to aim for least 5 seconds to be able to successfully hit it.

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>>15099443
Okay cool. More things to be anxious about during sex

>>15099438
Well if your cum just drip out all watery you might need extra effort, but normally is just fire away and you will hit regardless.
>>15099411
I hate the fact she was the first and only gold on both of my account, I just wanted to see what I could get from the pool with another, and fuck.

>>15099438
No. You just have to make sure it's all the way in. Get it in as deep as possible.

8/10 skill, 16 cost Rita, what is with my luck?
I am purely following the dicks orders.

>>15099535
>16 cost
Did you evolve her already? If so, I hope you did it at lvl50?
Anyway, really weird luck

>>15099545
Yeah, farm event units are real easy to get to 50.

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>>15099549
I'm at 0 copies so I wouldn't know

>>15099554
What? I been farming stage 3, and 2 Ritas.

>>15099583
I 3-star all the maps except the last bonus map, no drops
Just my luck

http://exhentai.org/g/905746/a5130f1ef8/

why is this the only FKG doujin

and why Rose Diana and not my waifu

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I did another try and finally got her to -2 cost.

>>15099708
Nice
Now she costs as much as Bashira, keep trying.
You're really damn lucky on skillups though

>>15099646
Even if FKG has more than one doujin, unless they are drawn by well known artists, chance of them getting scanned is probably as low as rolling a rainbow anyway.