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Elona+ Custom 1.55 General Information (for newer players): http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x

Elona+ Custom 1.55 Mods: http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

Jure is objectively the best goddess. Heretics would be kindly converted by a big blade named "Kindness."
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>>15024773
Nice goddess overall, but overhealing someone until his organs rupture is a bit too edgy.
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>>15024796
Then maybe you should consider a superior organ transplant.
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>>15024773
I don't worship dead goddesses. Too spooky for me.
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>>15024773
Speaking of gods and goddesses, look who didn't show up to the meeting. That's right, fucking Itzpalt! That asshole must think he's too good to associate with regular gods despite him being a failed elder god.
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>>15024833
Well, he's the only one that looks remotely sane afterall.
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Hi, firstly I'd like to thank you guys for having the updated spritesheet that I used in your pastebin for 1.55. For the E+ Custom update, I'm assuming if I've progressed in the story beyond the scenes they add, I won't be able to see the scenes? How many scenes are updated for South Tyris/Lost irving?
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>>15024815
Nobody worships Jure's sister tho.
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>>15024878
Who?
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>>15024863
That's correct. You can't really view past cutscenes but going forward you should be able to see the ones that have been put back in. Not sure exactly how many scenes are currently in however if you wanted to just read the cutscenes you missed then just check out the wiki. Should get you up to speed on what's going on if you piece things together.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Story
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Post your AI.

This is for my Jure.
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>>15024885
word. Are the pictures being posted in this thread all from the new scenes? I found this one in another elona thread.
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>>15024878
I don't either. I want nothing to do with the Jure family.
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>>15024891
Don't think so. Most of it seems to be art gotten from links in the pastebin or other threads.
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>>15024889
Second downwards.
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>>15024848
>old god is the only sane one
>and he wants to destroy the world
Surely there's no deeper meaning, i'm certain.
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>>15024885
>>15024863
If you use a playback disk, you can view any cutscenes you could have unlocked. There's a free one in front of the cyber dome, or you could visit the Palmian embassy to buy one.

>>15024833
Give him a break, he was just a kiwi at the time.
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>>15024923
oh sweet. This game just keeps getting better and better. I'm reading through the story and it is FAR more in depth than my cutscene-less play through would have me believe.
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>>15024923
Is that' what's on Jure's plate? What is Jure doing with Itzpalt then?! Are they all going to eat him?! You know who else didn't show up. Yacatect. I'm sure that spending all night counting her gold coins made her sleep in missing the meeting. Terrible just terrible. She's supposed to be the responsible older sister type too.
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>>15024939
Yacatect probably didn't even exist when that pic was drawn.
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>>15024939
If you eat him, he'll unleash his true form: <Grand Parfait Itzpalt>! Beware his ultimate skill; when he shouts "Complete Satiation!", it is already over. Your tastebuds will certainly be fried, and your stomach will be so bloated that you will be unable to move, resulting in death by chronic constipation.

>>15024945
You're right, Yacatect-onee must have been hanging out with Ano in Lost Irva.
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Reposting from last thread.
>>15024468
I haven't had luck finding any good claws or gauntlets. Is it completely ok to just go barehanded? Is there a way to equip the weapons for bonuses but not use them?
>>15024459
Yes I do idle a bit, sometimes I doodle with sprites because I'm trying to add some characters.

I'll get right on that stuff then, sounds good.
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>>15024961
Using claws is suffering for awhile. I just dealt with it until I had enough small coins to get the shield tonfa. I'm working on getting the smash tonfa next
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Does pets have to train Spells, or its just based on the lvl?
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>>15024995
Casting level determines damage much like the tactics skills for pets IIRC.
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>>15024995
just train casting and you'll be fine
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>>15025012
>>15025043

I see, thanks!
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What is this and should I trade a laser pistol for it?
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>>15025109
its a boulder, it will fuck you over in more ways than you can imagine
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>>15025133
H-how many ways? I can't find anything about it on the wiki.
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>>15025165
Oh wait I found it
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There should've been a slutty goddess of performance, charisma and prostitution
I guess they could shove those things into Yacatect, seeing how she governs the other charisma skills, but it wouldn't fit her
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I was reading through that other Elona pasta when I came upon:

>-SERIOUSLY, IN THE E(X)AMINE MENU USE * TO SET STUFF TO NO-DROP SO YOU CAN'T DROP/SELL/WHAT THE FUCK EVER IT BY ACCIDENT-

Oh my god, my poor hands flipping inventory pages and filtering gear to drop at my shop.
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>>15025219
That anon's character from the last thread should suffice, given that his char already had a thousand dicks in her.
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>>15025385
I don't think we even know if it's a girl. The game does support futas, traps, reverse traps, and agendered characters.
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Do you get to keep god-gifted special abilities like Absorb Mana is you switch gods?
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>>15025491
No.
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>>15025316
Oh Ehekatl. Why do I learn about this now.
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How do the potential increasing bonuses from cooking affect the attribute potential boosting corpses? Do they simply get added on top, or do they multiply the base corpse's bonuses?
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Pssssh...... nothing personnel...... kid
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>>15025611
Rude.
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>>15025611
What the heck item tileset are you using where your potions look like... square violins? And armor looks like a vampire bat?
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>>15025647
the one from the pastebin
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why
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>>15025980
That's what you get for not worshipping Jure. Get potions of cure mutation. Blessed ones preferably remove negative mutations.
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>>15025980
>Your skin is white
>Negative
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>>15026002

where i can get?
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>>15026062
Magic vendors stock them if you invest in them. Drinking from wells has a random chance to give you the opposite, good mutation, i.e. curing the bad one. But they can also further increase the bad mutation. Otherwise go dungeon diving and hope for the best.
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How do I stop android from going into melee range before shooting? I don't want to arm him with a shotgun
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>>15025681
Yo, is it broken? I made it but I've not played much lately. What bugs have you found/noticed?
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>>15026482
Target, Distance <=3, Move backward. Or short teleport.
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>>15026525
I might be using an old version, got it sometime around 1.55.1 custom. It lacks images for panzerfaust and elements eyes, thats all i noticed
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>>15026546
Convert to .bmp
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>>15026700
Thanks
Now I can become a weapon to surpass metal gear
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>>15026053
I don't think it's very unusual when white guys are risking skin cancer just so they can look like beaners.
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What's the advantage of seven league boots, really?
If more time passes, that means adventurers discover more artifacts, I get more chances at speed uppers and other nice things with the monthly pay, ranches breed, yearly events rotate more often(more new year gifts).
I'm not seeing any advantages unless you're running a time-limited quest or something
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>>15026875
> beaners

Why not use latino, mexican, brown or any variant thereof? I mean, if you wanted to degrade that sort of person you could have said:

>I don't think it's very unusual when white guys are risking skin cancer just so they can look like oranges.

>inb4 SJW

'beaner' is a racist slur and it wasn't even necessary to use here.
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>>15026892
I just like being able to get where I'm going in less than a day.
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>>15026892
You can do far more difficult delivery/escort quests early on. Which in turn means FAR more platinum and gold as a newbie. That's by far the main selling point.

It's also far more cost-effective to a certain degree, since taxation generally outweighs salary unless you have the relevant perks and karma score. So you can clear, let's say 20 dungeons instead of 10 per taxday. This is a minor selling point. As is the fact you can rack up travel experience far faster (since it's based on distance walked, not time outside).
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>>15026999
is this what /jp/ has become
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>>15027149
Why be racist? There are thousands of other ways you could have insulted that particular demographic, why drag Latinos into this?
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>>15027149
? Why is this even a thing here? Take your shit back to /pol/
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>>15027149
>>15027159

He's probably just racist out of habit, rather than the "going out of his way to kick someone" kind of behaviour you think it is. As someone who grew up with pretty racist parents, you can let slip like things intentionally even if you don't think of them as inferior in any way (but simply because it's the most immediate word, due to learning it growing up).
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What the hell is going on, I thought only Aryans were allowed to post on this wonderful board dedicated to honorary Aryans?
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>>15027222
I actually read something around that theme. A throwaway comment on a different board but anyway the thesis was that racists--even when they don't necessarily hold their beliefs with the same fervor as their community members--tend to espouse those beliefs so that they can remain a part of the community. Like, you're not racist because YOU are racist, but because your family and friends are racist. It's not the foundation of your relationships but, if you all of a sudden said: "No, I disagree. Jews should not be gassed", you'd very likely be ostracized from your group.
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[Changes and additions]
- Added one new artifact and unique NPC.
- Dyes will now have their colour code after their name to help differentiate between similar colours. (It will not display when unidentified.)

[In development]
- About five additional floors worth of main quest in Act III.. All that's left to do is to add the dialogue.
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>>15027318
>Added one new artifact

I hope it's a claw. Tonfa wouldn't be bad either desu.
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anyone got a cool sprite for female defender ?
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Do the effects from Sealed Shield and the Shield Tonfa stack? Can I become technically impenetrable?
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>>15027863
Stacks yes impenetrable no. The nullify damage is based on chance and it doesn't seem like it activates that often. The reduction to physical damage is ok.
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Has anyone here seen a <13th step ghost> before?
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>>15028315
Yes. It spooked the hell out of me.
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>>15028356
Was it in the void?
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>>15028315
Yeah. It reminded me of that "Something has lost it's way!" from Kamidori.
Both times I was going up and down a dungeon looking for something I found out about from Oracle.
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>>15028486
Yes. Twice, actually. Once in The Void, another time in a random dungeon.
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>>15028315
Yeah, kinda surprised me. I never knew these were a thing.
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>>15028696
your meat-filled freezer is by far creepier than any ghosts, anon
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I'm currently in a great depression and can't play this game even if I want to since 1.48 and I need this question answered.

Do base stats go beyond 2000 yet?
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The dungeon cleaner was voted for execution heh.
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>>15029373
Nope.
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>>15029430
>this kills the anon
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What do I wish for /jp/? I already have SLB
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>>15029763
Astral Light pens are a good wish anytime you don't feel you need anything in particular.

If the wish is from a rod/spell you can cast anywhere you could summon a god to kill some strong NPC you what equip from instead.
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>>15029787
I don't have a happy bed or aurora ring yet, but I'm not sure if I'd really need an aurora ring right now.
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>>15029586
clean slates are fantastic though
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>>15029763
Scroll of growth.
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Does {Sophie} warm up and reveal her 3 sizes if I do her quest enough times?
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>Complete the original storyline
>Time fast forwards three years
>Come home to this

Kek.
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>>15030193
at least most of it is milk, not shit or garbage
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>>15030201
I run multiple ranches in parallel, so I can passively get food without worry.

One thing I've noticed is that even though they're all Putits (started them as a newb, but meaning to replace them), one is overwhelmingly milk, another overwhelmingly eggs, another trash.

I'm suspecting each breeder has a disposition to producing more of its own type (egg, milk producers). Makes me wonder if I could set up an egg farm rather than corpse farm... do eggs produce the same potential increases as corpses?
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>>15030292
I thought the meta usage of ranches now is primarily for eggs (for large picnic basket)?
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>>15030308
Corpses for potential gains. Especially if you actually brush pets, they can drop up to quality+8 corpses
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>>15029322
I just like to collect the flesh of my fallen foes. I may have eaten the corpses of the first two though.
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>>15030344
>the first two
Are you for real? You collected ALL other corpses?
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>>15030364
Yeah as far as I can remember. I think I didn't have the 4-dimensional pocket spell and the cooler box back then. Of course, we're talking about the corpses of named/unique NPCs.
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>>15030376
>Of course, we're talking about the corpses of named/unique NPCs
Oh. I was getting worried for a moment there
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>>15030309
Do you mean corpses for attribute training? Because corpse itself don't raise potential.
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>>15024905
what is this ugly ass background in your portraits ?
use this instead
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So I finished the main quest in North Tyris, and unlocked access to South Tyris. But <Leold> the AP trainer is still at the cyberdome, and I can't find him at the refugee camp. Am I missing something?
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>>15030586
you gotta talk to him at the cyber dome once before he relocates
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>>15030578
Doesn't seem like much of a difference.

Which reminds me: I found some deco_inv mods in .zips as well as buff icons. I think the buff icons go in the item.bmp file overwriting the already present ones.

I also have buff icons for skills other than element scar/attribute shield but give me a minute to find 'em.

https://jii.moe/Vy1rP0n0l.zip
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is there a guide for tactical instructions?
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>>15030732
Hee yah!

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4
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Why is that, that everytime you roll for your alias, backstory, house name or whatever you never get the thing you want. You roll and roll and roll. Even worse in character creation when you accidently hit progress and lose more than one stage of the process when going back. I can understand the random rolling for stats, but for fluff like alias and backstory; it makes no bloody sense. Just give a list with all the available bits and pieces. SCUT.
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>>15031133
Rolling can give you ideas if you don't have something in mind, or you might even change your mind. Plus, you can keep one half or the other while rolling backstory.
It's kinda silly for attributes though.
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>>15031147
Yeah, sure. Why not both? A randomizer for people with no idea and a list if you actually know what you're going for. And the halved backstory reroll doesn't mean anything when after every reroll your selection jumps to progress. Press enter accidently twice and you're further in the process. Press backspace to correct your mistake and guess where you are. In the alias roll. I want to meet the guy who thought that this is a good idea and call his favorite 2hu a shit.
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>>15031133
Maybe I'm a simple person but I got everything I wanted through rolls. Part of the fun is just maybe picking out one or two background bits and just leaving the rest to chance. The most interesting characters have some really out there background bits but you flesh out the lore in your head to make the pieces fit. Certainly better than edgelord mcfag with "I'm a dickass thief, I set off on an adventure for world domination, I'm interested in clothing of the opposite sex, nobody loves me" Actually, that backstory makes a lot of sense...
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>>15031180
That's all fine and dandy, but it pisses in my beer when I try to recreate an already existing character with matching fluff to boot.
Dedicated edgelords can reroll anyway till they got their dark, broody fluff. It doesn't really matter if they got it trough rolls or picked it together from a list. They'll get laughed at or ignored till they stop posting.
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item sheet from the pastbin with happy bed fixed

also fixed sprites at the bottom which weren't 48x48px somehow
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>>15031133
Anon, you can edit some details in EloSnack. At least the Title/Race/Species names. Not sure about backstory though.
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>>15031413
Eww tainting a character using Elosnack. I'd rather keep the purity of my characters.
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Does anyone in here have a shift core?
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>>15031215
>>15030655
I've updated the pastebin with your item.bmp, and added the custom buff icons. They probably aren't the most optimal replacements, but feel free to play around with them.

>>15030655
If you have any more buff icons, it would be much appreciated.
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>>15030915
Thanks friendo!
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>>15030073
No, it's a random dialogue when you choose the option. One of them has her starting to tell you, but she catches herself before saying too much.
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>>15032708
I actually do!

Brighter as you go down.
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>>15032708
Here as well.

If you aren't using pic related as your background you have no business telling anyone about stylish interfaces.

>>15030578
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>>15032154

There's only 1 close-to-useful shift core if only you don't need to be on the red. Why the hell should I risk fighting anything really hard at red hp?
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>>15034173
So you look cool and prove you're a friend of Justice! The cores let you live out your sentai ranger fantasies! When red is almost down and out he always rises again! Such amazing fighting spirit!
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>>15033815
That went 3 miles over your head.
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>>15034305
Not him but I think his portraits are interesting. I like them.
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>>15034363
Not him, but I think he was making a joke.
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>>15034368
I'm sure he is but a rude one at that. Just saying though that I do like >>15024905 portraits. They make sense with the sprites being used and the party makeup is interesting too.
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>>15034403
I was actually also considering an Android (God-pet) healer. 75% Armor bit and magic can easily be trained. Could also keep it as a gunner and have a decent ranged/healer hybrid too. It's not something I have the resources to invest in right now but if you wanted some ideas..

>>15034305
Good bants.
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>>15033815
>>15034363
>>15034368
>>15034403
>>15034522
Look, I know I forgot the capital letters and I missed a dot but it was only a 9 words sentence. And not like it was the most advanced vocabulary either.

I'll give you some hints >background >portrait
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>>15034581
Wait, that's what you meant? I thought you meant the background file for the graphics folder.

Thanks all the same.

Btw what monsters give gene-engineering when fused to pets?
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>>15034581
Yes I'm surprised no one understood you.
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>>15034602

none
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>>15034623
Kai's little girl has gene engineer. How did he get it then?
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>>15034636
Blessed scrolls of gain attribute. My inner jew committed sudoku the day I gave this skill to five pets.
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>>15034714
Ah, good to know.
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>>15033815
>>15030655
Zenzen ni Gattai!

>>15033801
Sorry, I meant to be more specific. Are there any more buff icons similar to those in >>15030655? I'm trying to finish the row for buffs with these custom icons, but it only goes to bufficon_29.bmp to bufficon_39.bmp (excluding bufficon_34.bmp for some reason).
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>>15034839
I think I found them on the uploader. Imma go look but it'll take me a while.
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>>15034839
I'm looking through some of my downloaded .zips right now. Not what you wanted probably but I found this:

https://jii.moe/VJonrW00g.zip
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I finished miku for the /sgg/ crossposters. I'll make the rest later since it should be easy now that I have a base shape for recoloring.
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>>15034839
Can't find it. Have a cat interface though.

>>15034977
>/sgg/

?


>Captcha looping me.
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>>15035009
/m/'s symphogear general, I know there's at least two people here other than me that browse it.
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>>15035031
The only boards I cross with any frequency are /r9k/ because I hate it and /tg/ because W40K lore is oddly gripping. /vg/ is ok sometimes too. Is /m/ a particularly quick/slow board compared to /jp/? It just seems like mecha is a fairly niche thing.
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>>15035132

I haven't really been there for anything but symphogear but eventually kamen rider and other stuff, though the symphogear general can be fast or slow depending on timezone stuff and can either be shitposty and off-topic( as some anon recently put it:"Do you discuss anything on topic that isn't about sex with/between the gears? All I see is that and fantasizing about "oh x-chan would be so kawaii when xyz would happen"." or have large discussions about lore and other junk when a season airs.

I'm assuming it is a moderate-level speed board rather than fast or slow.
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>>15035165
Listen to this btw:

https://deakinjams.bandcamp.com/album/sleep-cycle

Listen to it from the beginning. It's incredible. I didn't make it, I just have to shill it. It's beyond words.
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>>15035195
ok then, go listen to anarchestra on bandcamp while you're at it., my favorite track is railyard metal sliding against dry ice for 30 minutes, which is the only track like it in their bandcamp, the rest is cool shit.
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>>15035291
Honestly I couldn't tell if your comment was a sarcastic diss against the artist(s) but I tried them all the same. Really good stuff desu.
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>>15035355
No I legitimately enjoy loud noises. Once you learn to relax around loud noises you can become soothed by them. Which is one of the reasons why I love death grips and MC Ride's homeless man hollering. I just hope you listen to music at an appropriate level.

Also yes I like their stuff.
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>>15035375
>I just hope you listen to music at an appropriate level.

My volumes typically don't go below 80%.

It's strange to me that I like this so much because usually I don't like instrumental music much. Too boring. I heard Miles Davis was great so I tried listening to him; it was good for that one night browsing 4chan and playing E+ 'til 2AM but otherwise, dull as hell. Even when solipse 1 was just starting I had doubts but good god.
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>>15035424
The reason I like it so much is because of how different the instruments the guy makes sounds, he makes hundreds of instruments out of junk.
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>>15035464
>>15035424
Also I have my system volume at 100 percent at all times, I only lower my music player because of how loud it is at full volume.
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I went in a moongate and found this sandbagged mob that replicated itself when it was hit and was extremely weak. Does anyone know the mob in question so I can replicate this, I just want my catgirl imouto and my onee chan to be powerful ;_;

Also I haven't played this game in like a year sans this fairly new char I'm using, is there anything new and important I should know about for making a pet stronger?
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>>15036624
> is there anything new and important I should know about for making a pet stronger?
H E R B S

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and maybe teach them some spells too
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>>15036695
I usually give them anything that isn't a marelion or a stomafilia, I remember the herbed food too but idk how effective that is on pets.

Do i just give them the spellbook?
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>>15036624
Gold formula for pet training in towns was changed less then a year ago I think, now it depends on pet's INI, thus making low-level pets as strong (if not stronger) then high-level ones.
Also Elona Custom happened.
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>>15036624
>I went in a moongate and found this sandbagged mob that replicated itself when it was hit and was extremely weak. Does anyone know the mob in question so I can replicate this, I just want my catgirl imouto and my onee chan to be powerful ;_;

I thought sandbagging to farm experience was disabled? Or is it only in certain areas like the home?
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>>15036708
Herbed curaries grant enormous amounts of attribute exp. Get elona custom and select the 'let's talk about tactics' option on the pet, er, conversation window. Where you get materials from.
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>>15036754
The sandbagged mob didn't and I don't know if the ones that split off of it did, I just assumed that due to its existence in a storage unit with just it in it, that someone made it to farm the ones that split off of it. The only other thing it could be is some chaotic retarded-aligned dumbass made a random storage unit to fulfill his mitosis/elf/bondage fantasies.
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>>15036624

That looks like the moongate with the one mob waaaaaaaaaay back in the day when I started with vanilla elona.

It splits and the split mobs all try and cast wish (usually failing and killing themselves from overcasting)

But if you could find/remember the gate you could just farm wishes there like a dirty cheater.

I may have abused it on my first character but my current character in 1.55 is completely legit!
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>>15036624
Since you seem new to pet raising stick to low INI pets. The catgirl imouto should be fine for you. Don't know what your oneechan is specifically so I can't comment on that.

If you're still only in North Tyris I'd just focus on keeping your pets skill and attribute potentials high. To do this, you want your pets to visit their trainer in town. If they have enough money you'll see them visit their trainer as you walk around the city or rest. To get gold for their trainer let them loot gold off of dungeon boss kills and other stuff on the dungeon ground. Pickpocket can also help them out in collecting gold for trainer costs.

Once you get to South Tyris you can look into training your pets to become powerful in earnest. You'll get access to trading in AP for special abilities, speed, skill bonus, etc.

Also, you can probably start to get serious about maybe starting up an herb farming operation. If you do decide to start up an herb farm I'd suggest your pet's diet be currarias and stomafilias. Both herbs can help raise their attributes. Currarias are slightly better than stomafilias but stomafilias are still alright and they're plentiful. Curraria herb in concoctions, while incredibly powerful for a pet, should only be used on your character until you're swimming in herbs imo. You need the Curraria concoction more than your pet does. Once you have enough herbs to provide for both you and your pets then yes, go ahead and give your pet the premium stuff(Curraria as a base herb in recipe) Try to keep your pets roughly the same in power to your character though or you'll have difficulties later on. Cut them off from herbs if you have to.

Alongside raising a pet's attribute the other major pain point of a pet is its speed. That needs to be worked on. A pet that is faster just overall, does better in combat and is easier to work with. Look into raising their speed through trading in AP or giving them Hermes potions, speed upper potions, and just plain feeding them herbs.

The last part of the growing pet strength equation is raising skills and that can either be done naturally through them using their skills or through using the AP they earn and converting them into bonus skill points. Once the AP has been converted you need to speak with an informer to get access to your pet's character sheets where you'll distribute their bonus skill points as you see fit.

>>15036720
Certainly does seem like INI plays a role in trainer costs with larger INI values having scary training costs. Luckily, another anon tracked down that charisma helps bring down trainer costs. My pet Akeno managed to cut her training costs nearly in half once she capped her charisma. Meanwhile, I'm back to being horrified at training costs with my performaid pet Mayu. It looks like I'm going to have to finally start tinkering around with custom's AI feature too. She uses MP Breath a little too much for my liking so I need to tweak that.
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>>15038889
The oneechan is from and oldersisters diary.

Are you sure I should be worrying about the catsisters speed? the way I see it they are just an intermediary between a "normal" pet and a bell.

Also for the herbed food you are saying I should use 2 curarias in the recipe?
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>>15038954
Older sister should be fine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a catsister only has 200 or so speed? That may be fine for North Tyris but that's kinda low when you get to South Tyris. Around that time monsters will start to get deadlier and also faster so you'll want to amass as much speed as you can. As for the herb food yes, two currarias. What I normally do is create one blessed stack of currarias and another stack that isn't blessed. That allows you to use curraria as a base. Another way I think you can do it but I haven't tried myself, is just identify one stack and leave another stack unidentified.
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>>15038988
Its not like water bottles are super hard to come buy, I seem to have more than I need at least for now.

Yes I seem to recall ~200 speed base, I think I also recall south tyris stuff being far above it, but I can't remember that well. I got to lost irva and everything was untranslated and I just stopped there a year-ish ago. I guess if curarias are that important though I should start doing harvest times to have a large supply of them then for my pet and I.

Also I heard mention of a picnic basket; Is that important to be doing?
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>>15039001
Picnic baskets are ok. They help with attribute potentials I think but you can get by without them if need be since there are other ways to raise and maintain your attribute potentials. Some ways off the top of my head are blessed potions of potential which you either can buy off of invested magic vendors or make yourself through crating and pets cooking breakfast for you. Those are my main two ways I keep my attribute potentials high. For pets, keep their potentials high through having them visit their trainers.
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>>15039034
>>15039034
alrighty thanks for the help friend, I was kind of at an information wall since the wiki isnt super in depth about pet raising.
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For some reason you can't just take the coffins in the Valley of Hereafter, you have to steal them.
Meanwhile the torches in the same room can be taken freely.

Bizarre.
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>>15039140
Grave robbing, silly you! taking torches is completely moral.
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>>15039140
>you have been seen
>zombie dragon screams "guards! guards!"
>carma -5
>Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the law on my watch!
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Yo! Anna made a new thing!

Backup your save before touching it.

I repeat: Backup your save or else you stand a solid chance of losing it.

Once again: Back it up. It won't take you longer than a minute.


http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104#433
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>>15040704
How do we submit typo fixes and better flowing english sentences? I'm new and notice plenty of these things.
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>>15040759
Post here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLg2cfS5vbx4wB601OAeEit9Um48ReacRA1Itwg3Y4w/edit#gid=0

but you could also post in the linked thread.
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>>15040767
Thanks
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Can you include "blank" lines in talk.txt files?
That is, give them a chance to not say anything when the conditions are fulfilled.
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>>15040704
Thanks for the plug, I was just about to do so myself.

Really, if anyone has the time, I'd really appreciate some help doing the testing here. This should open up quite a bit of potential for modifications that won't require the executable to be recompiled. That includes adding translations for flavor text. I just need to make sure everything works properly before I push this into a stable build.

Once this is working, I'll do the same for items (item descriptions) and card descriptions, making them entirely editable outside the executable.

I've even got an idea in my head for NPC dialogue and conversation choices, but I don't know for sure yet that it'll work.

But please, please don't use your save on this without backing it up first. It has serious potential to affect your file.

Sorry for shilling it here, but really, any help with the testing would be appreciated.
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>>15041161
Yeap, not sure what is the maximum number of lines is tho.
Also from my observation blank line in txtDialog makes them use default replies.
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>>15041291
What do I need exactly to make standalone installation? Basic E+, this files and latest version of custom?
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>>15041389
Yes. Extract Elona+ 1.55, add in Custom 1.55.4 (or just take the scene2.hsp and scene3.hsp files from it) and then add the files from this zip. Then just run Elona_Experimental.exe.
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I think something's wrong with my game. What's up with the face? I've downloaded 2 different PCC packs and they both seem to not quite "fit" right, either.
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>>15041520
There was a change in the standard PCC size in the development. Those packs are probably for the old size.
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>>15041558
I downloaded them from the pastebin, though. They're supposedly working with this version. Is this considered "working"?

Shit, maybe I should just try to find whatever was the last version to have the old PCC size.
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>>15041571
There is a old pcc folder in your main graphic folder. Check that out.
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>>15041587
Just copied the custom PCCs to there too, still broken.
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>>15041598
Try to copy the sprites from the old pcc folder into the new one. Then throw your custom things into the new one as well.
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>>15041615
Nope, still broken.
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>>15041645
Only some eye types work desu. Do you want me to upload my pcc folder? It'll cause your game to take significantly longer to start-up.

(Nearly 300 Cloth types and 200 ETC items)
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>>15041658
Is it less broken? If so, yes please!
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>>15041645
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>>15041671
Ohhh, my bad. I needed to tweak eyes and body a bit.

Thanks :V
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>>15041645

Keep in mind you may have to cycle through a couple of bodies before you find one that works. I haven't gotten around to deleting the wrongly-sized ones.

https://jii.moe/EJN0IhkkZ.zip
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>>15041711
Thanks! I'll check this out too.
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>>15041715
Also, if you go really far with the bodies you'll find a couple with body/facial markings. Not critically important but it's not something I've gotten to play around with quite yet. If that's something you're into...
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>>15041291
Works nice so far.
On a side note - there are a lot of missing flavor lines in english version. For example, farmer has four different death messages in jp version, and none in english.
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Is there a good way to procure a significant quantity of milk?
I need to get some height changing going here.
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>>15042867
Ranches and Time. Just make sure you breed a creature with high breeding power such as chickens, putits, lame horses, etc.
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Cool house, I had to open them all though.
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>>15044661
That's nice lockpick training if you have a skill.
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>>15044661
How are the Japanese characters rendering like that for you? Are you using JP system locale?
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This game still makes me giggle sometimes.
>>15044905
Not him, but you can use microsoft app locale if you running windows. It won't allow you to use fancy font tho.
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>>15044905
>>15044931
go into the config and change both eng and japanese fonts to Meiryo UI
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>>15044938
Did it work for japanese? I changed english font without problems, but japanese font remains the same regardless of changes in config.
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>>15044948
Yes, if you haven't done so make sure you change applocale to japanese, that will probably help.

Otherwise I dunno what the issue could be unless you entered it in wrong for japanese but not english (which is unlikely because I'm assuming you're smarter than that or not sleep deprived).
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I dunno if anyone here works on the wiki but
>behicle race
Isn't this supposed to be vehicle?
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>>15045395
It's been actually spelled that way in Elona+ for the longest time.
You can see it yourself by creating a new character with the extraRace option in config.txt set to 1.
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>>15045395
>behicle
:DDDD

A lot of elona's engrish keeps reminding me of finnish memes
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I astral light pen'd Anubis, and found out that whenever he makes a kill that he proudly declares that he is "the son of the Sun God!"
For every single kill.
Even telling him to shut up will not stop him.
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>>15048040
Sounds like a proud fella. Does he have any death messages?
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>>15048601
He does, but I forget what it was and he's remarkably resilient given the current difficulty of enemies I face.
His ludicrous pride is kinda growing on me. I'll probably give him a talk file with some extra lines for his kills, but leave that one in.
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I've played this game on-and-off for so many years and I'm happy to see it's still kicking.

It's probably because of the "being able to have everything as a wife".
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>>15049142
Funny how just not bothering to add restrictions makes the game that much more unique.
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Does anyone know or have a list of all the special {things} that you can put in tone files?
I know that {player} becomes your name.
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>>15048040
You can add other ones for variety with talk file.
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>>15049662
"Kitten ate the Dog"

{npcc} ate the {nptc}.

Here's the list.

https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S14881260#p14909717



Warosu is not only up but it has the Elona threads from all the way back to '08!
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>>15049662
Here's the ones I have noted down.
{player} player's name
{aka} player's nickname(aka)
{nptc} the NPC's name
{npcc} Player's name
{me} "I" (Japanese)
{you} "you" (Japanese)
{objective} quest:objective
{reward} quest:reward
{ref} quest:refer
{map} quest:map name
{client} quest:client name
{sex} player gender
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>>15048040
%txtKilled,EN
"I'm a dumb goose and need to shut up."
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How do I teach pets spells?
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>>15051057
If you have a spell level => 50 then depending on THEIR casting skill level and the difficulty of the spell itself then you can go to the custom AI menu and select 'teach spells/abilities.' The thing to remember here is that you only actually need to get their casting skill to ~5 or so at which point they can learn Holy Shield or feather. As long as you set their AI so that they buff themselves before a fight their casting level should skyrocket over time.
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>>15051174
Oh wait how do I teach jiu jitsu?
Do I have this right?
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>>15051709
"If self doesn't equal Jiu-Jitsu, Vindalian Jiu-Jitsu."

Unless Jiu-Jitsu is a status effect, that probably won't work. Not even sure what Vindalian Jiu-Jitsu.
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>>15051723
It's a new feat option in + 1.55 for martial artists. It uses enemy DV for defense rather than PV.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)
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>>15052251
> It uses enemy DV for defense rather than PV.

Genuinely curious, when is this useful?
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>>15052267
Whenever you're fighting against something with very high PV and relatively lower DV, so you can get past some of their damage mitigation easier.
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New ver when?
Really looking forward to those deity buffs.
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>>15052741
Hopefully after Anna is at least 3/4 through with her experiments. She'd probably have to start all over again if Ano started making wild changes to the build.
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>>15052768
I can't say I'm very interested in custom aside from the actual translating. Changing pet AI, while kinda fun is outright cheating/ridiculous.
I'm just looking forward to changes so I can get some more Elona in, but currently on a break otherwise.
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>>15052778
Maybe you could make a character and help Anna test? You needn't use the pet AI, just a vanilla character and pets.

Good night, by the way.
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more symphogear sprites, I only had to resize nephilim, not edit it, I might change that later though.
http://imgur.com/a/zBT6P.
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>>15055126
Coolio. You could also post it up on the Uploader so Japanese players can see these. Thanks for your work!
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>>15055152
They're taken (and then edited, a lot to match elona) from a pixiv artist so I wouldn't feel right doing that until I make all of them converted to elona/edit them enough to be dissimilar enough.

I'd feel better if I remembered the artist so I could credit them for the initial sprites though.
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Would it be unwise to pick up all of my stashed rods if I have the mana battery disease
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>>15055472
If you want the spell stock? Nah. Otherwise, yeah probably.
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>>15055530
Ah ok I'll just pick up one of each if I have multiple then. Just to learn them.
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1.56 is out.

http://www1.axfc.net/u/3649616.zip

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21733
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>>15055646
AYY

the day that gay gardener god worshippers got BTFO
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>>15055646
Kumiromi, I never loved you. I enjoyed how easy it was to max favor with you, though. Can't wait to NTR an Android from Mani.
Might also take Yerleswood. Make him my personal mecha/spess mehreen
GLORY TO LULWY
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>>15055646
> In this version, extra attacks will now proc if 2 * equipment attribute strength + 1 > a random number between 0-99 + modifier.
>The probability that an extra attack will proc increases with the equipment attribute strength and approaches 100%, but it will never be 100%.
>The strength of enchants has also been multiplied by 2, so you will see more extra attacks even with low level equipment attributes.

Fucking neato
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Has anyone noticed the new eye feats?
Prelim. thoughts on how this could be integrated into builds? I was thinking something like a pet that mostly buffed and cured ailments would use eye of stiffen for damage or something. You know, to preserve their MP?
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Hey Anna, I know this is rather minor, but would you mind making a Convenience Tweak that removes this prompt when attacking your pets? There are some times where you just really, really want to attack your pet over and over.
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>>15056241
Might need to post on her blog wall/recompiling Elona page or some other place. While you could also add in a request to remove the prompt for over-casting too..
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>>15056306
>Remove

Nah. It'd be better if you can simply set the warning threshold as -10%, -20%, -30%, etc of your maximum mana.
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>>15056241
>>15056306
>>15056317
I think removing prompts should be a toggle option that you set to either no or yes every time (for separate prompts) For something such as reading books and being squashed set to continue reading and continuing to eat and such.
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>>15056241
Easy enough, but this week is already going to be a pain between the 1.56 update and updating my current work. I'll try to fit it in though.
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>>15055646
>Worshipping changes
>Yacatect's ability will now also increase the drop rate of regular items.
What qualifies as a "regular item"? Does that mean only potions, wands, books, and other miscellanea, or all non-miracle equipment?

>Made stamina regeneration from worshipping Kumiromi recover 1 sp/2 turns
Seems like you could abuse the hell out of that to play music non-stop, unless regen pauses during performances.
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>>15056860
I don't know what regular item means. I've checked the shitaraba thread, and it seems they don't know either. Someone did suggest that it refers to items that the NPC wasn't carrying before he died. Like you know how some NPCs drop scrolls of curse even though they weren't carrying any?

Kumiromi's sp regen is a nerf, not a buff. It used to recover 1 sp/turn. That sp regen and the sp regen from Regeneration do not work while performing. It still allows for a lot more performances/ensembles during Party Time!, though.
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>>15056928
>It still allows for a lot more performances/ensembles during Party Time!, though.

Drain blood gives you, what, 10 sp/turn? That blows the Kuriromi's bonus out of the water.
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The new mind break action is fun.
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>>15057038
>causes enemies to vomit

And now I want to see if I can use a combination of walls, summon monster, and pets to make a vomit farm. That shit sells for up to 400 gold each.

Vomit Farming: Only in Elona (TM)
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>>15057046
You can only target one enemy at a time and you need a full special gauge. You're better off with that punch action. Body blow or something.
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There's no mention of it in the wiki, so what exactly does "Bubble Ball" do? Is it like Bubble Storm, in that it wets them and does non-elemental damage?
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>>15055646
Thanks for the heads up on that. I've been looking forward to getting my MP problem resolved. Seemed after going over a certain threshold your MP gets zapped to one so it looked like an overflow problem.

I was wondering how Ano would go about fixing this and from what I've seen I'm guessing he changed how HP and MP is calculated. After unequiping all of my gear and reequiping them I was pleased to see that my MP no longer got reduced to one but instead I saw that my HP and MP were lower. I also unequipped and requipped the gear on my pets and sure enough their HP and MP changed. All were lower than in the prior version of Elona.

Are you guys experiencing the same thing? I've posted a picture that shows what my HP and MP were like in the previous version of Elona(1.55) where the bug existed and what my HP and MP are like now in 1.56. If HP and MP have been recalculated I wonder if this also extends to enemy HP and MP. I don't think my damage has changed yet if everyone, player and enemy alike, have had their HP and MP lowered I wonder how this affects the games difficulty.

I personally don't really care that I have less HP and MP since the amounts I have are still more than enough. I just care if it's working as intended. I can practically cast without resting ever and by the time my MP does get low chances my character is already sleepy hence I can just refill my MP bar again by sleeping. Or I can just use Itzpalt's absorb magic.

>>15057580
Bubble Ball and Bubble Storm are the same thing. For some reason the rod version is named a bit differently but yeah, they both do non elemental damage and cause enemies to become wet.
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>>15057580
>>15057900
So wait, what's the difference between Magic Storm and Bubble Ball besides wet?
Is Bubble physical?
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>>15057930
Yeah, Magic Storm is magic damage, and Bubble Ball/Bubble Storm are physical.
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>>15057900
I just did a quick comparison on my savefile in 1.55 and 1.56, and I have the same HP and MP values.

But my character is really weak and my hp/mp are fairly low, so maybe whatever Ano did only affects values that are very high?
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>>15057900
I tried that too, and also got hp reduction. Went to 4846 from 4863 tho, less than .5% difference.
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>>15057970
>>15058000
Thanks for the reports. Glad to see it's not a bug. Also glad to see that the effect isn't too big and might only be noticeable once you start getting lots of HP and MP. Still, I'm not having any difficulties with what I have.
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>>15057900
The teenaged god is cripped!

Go, Go, Itzpalt!
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>>15058324
That reminds me that my character has had some weird moments regarding age. There was deliberate attempts to keep my character young through blessed slow potions but things got really weird when a couple of pumpkins in the past threw them at me making me more younger than I wanted. This lead to the weird situation where my little girl was actually older than my character. Here I was, trying to be the older brother figure to the little girl, but now having to ask for permission to do stuff, hold hands with her so I don't get swept up from crowds, have shopkeepers address her instead of me, take baths together, and I'm sure other anime/Japanese tropes.

On a side note, I'm amused that I can actually say and be right, "I can literally just breath on <insert god name here> and they will die." I don't think the gods have 5 million HP
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>>15058458
mp: ((Magic * 2 + Will + Learning) / 4 * Level / 5 + Magic) * Mana / 100
Level is capped at 10,000
Mana is capped at 1,000
((Magic * 2 + Will + Learning) / 4 * Level / 5 + Magic) is capped at 2,000,000

hp: ((Constitution * 2 + Strength + Will) / 4 * Level / 5 + Constitution) * Life / 100 + 5
Level is capped at 10,000
Life is capped at 1,000
((Constitution * 2 + Strength + Will) / 4 * Level / 5 + Constitution) is capped at 2,000,000
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>>15059525
Thanks for the formulas. So Mana and Life isn't capped at 2000 but at 1000 now? Odd, makes me wonder why you can go way over 1000. Or is it that you can't go over 1000 now but those people that did in prior versions will still have their numbers displayed as such?
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>>15024773
1.56 is out. Get to updating the spritepacks and custom cunts. Make it snappy.
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>>15060949
O-oh, right. I forget to do that.
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>>15060949
Wait, do you really await for someone to update spritepacks, and don't like do it yourself in like 30 seconds? That's nice degree of laziness.
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>>15061427
Let me know if you find bugs. I don't know what's wrong with the carbuncle or warrior of Elea btw.

Also pretty sure someone fixed my item sheet and added in new buff icons but I'm not sure where that is.
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>>15061447
remember kids, don't do jpeg
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>>15061473
.png causes the image to balloon. Depending on the size it can't even be uploaded.
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>>15061447
Star sprite (#15 bottom row) should be #14, other new sprites looks at place.
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>>15061479
I just copied it from the base 1.56 item sheet.

Just to be clear it's arranged:

14 Space 16

15 17 18

The brown thing is 16 and supposed to be closest the purple, right?
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>>15061427
You mean you lazy porch monkeys don't redo new sprites as soon as they're made? Disappointing.
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>>15061514
No idea who do you refer to as "you", but I manage my sprite sheets myself and don't share them with lazy plebs :^)
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>>15061478
Oh yeah, I forgot. 4chan is the only website in the whole internet you can upload images to.
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>>15061974
Anon please. Most of us can convert the img to png or any format needed without having to go to another site to download the image. Rather he save his stuff here so I can have a look to see if I want to download it in the first place.
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>>15062911
Sure. Go ahead and convert that artifact ridden jpg into png. You twat.
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>>15062920
I was using png as an example ass. Convert it to anything you want you fuck or don't.
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>>15062950
Are you stupid? His point is that a jpg is unrecoverable.
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>>15062950
You obviously missed the point. It's not about converting. It's about using a jpg as the initial image. If anyone wants to share their sprites they should be initially uploaded as png or extern as bmp.
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>>15062963
So let me get this straight. The argument here is to upload as a PNG for the higher quality because you have to eventually convert it to BMP which may downgrade the quality. Might as well start with the highest quality so its ending point is better than what it would be if uploaded as JPG? Is the ideal then just to upload it somewhere as just a BMP?
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>>15063112
Jpeg creates artifacting by nature. For sprite art you should use a lossless format on creation. Like .png or .bmp
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>>15061479
I don't know what you're talking about. Could you post your sheet so I can compare them?

>>15063129
>>15062963
>>15062960
>>15062920
>>15062950
>>15062911
Report bugs. This is the original converted to .png.

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>>15063186
>I don't know what you're talking about.
Open default character.bmp and compare with yours, seastar sprite from bottommost row is one position off.
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>>15063214
How did that happen? I wonder what's going to happen. I have no idea how to fix it.
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>>15059525
>>15059579
I put in my attribute numbers for my character Kai into the equation and got the exact HP and MP numbers my character has. Had to ignore rounding and decimals though but the equation looks to be correct. The 1000 life and mana cap also seems to be right. It also seems that 1000 value is a hard cap too.

I gave a hero cheese to my pet Yuki which already has 1000 or so life and despite the life attribute going up there was no increase to her HP at all. It looks like your character sheets will correctly report life up to 2000 but any value above 1000 doesn't help you in any way. I find that really strange that there is a thousand points of well...dead values. Makes me sad that my character has 2000 in both life and mana and 1000 points of it is worthless now. All that spirit stock could of been used to farm hero cheese and magic fruit for my other pets. On the bright side, at least I can look forward to having an easier time capping my pets life and mana now that the effective cap is 1000.

Unlike in the prior versions where the life and mana feats could actually carry you over 2000 and still give you more HP and MP, it doesn't look like those feats will help you out in this version even if it boosts you pass 1000.

So it looks like those feats got nerfed a bit. I could still see someone taking them as those feats would allow for less farming of hero cheese and magic fruit and could help set you up earlier in doing something your race isn't known for doing. Golem mages for example could use the extra MP from the respective feat line. Could always wait until you can farm the cheeses and fruits but you'll be waiting for a long time.
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>>15063438
>it doesn't look like those feats will help you out in this version even if it boosts you pass 1000.

Mean to say that the feats will give you extra life or mana and in turn will give you more HP and MP but after 1000, that is not the case. Your life and mana attribute value,as it's reported on the character sheet, will increase but you will not get anymore HP or MP from it.
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>>15063438
You probably already know this, but the reason it's not simplified as
>mp: ((Magic * 2 + Will + Learning) * Level / 20 + Magic) * Mana / 100
is because decimal places get tossed out at every step of the calculation, so it's possible to get your exact hp and mp through calculation. Well, except for the 10 extra HP that pops out from nowhere. I guess they give an extra 10 points after the calculation.

I guess it's kind of weird that the cap on life and mana attributes isn't 2000. It'll probably trip up a lot of people in the future.
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>>15063622
im pretty sure the 1000 cap is just a quick fix for the overflow bug

the difference between 1k and 2k life/mana is little in term of what you can/can't do in the game
when your life goes to 1 on the other hand...

not much point spending time on it for now
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I've played Elona for years, never really posted in these threads very much. I've also never progressed past Zeome. Currently running around as a crossbowman, level 27, with a little girl, catsister, and a gold golem chasing me about. I tend to make too many characters, but I've once again hit the brick wall that is Zeome.

Any tips for getting through this, aside from stacking more magic and chaos resist?
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>>15065911
>>15065911
Take your time. Farm some of those small medals, buy/wish for scrolls of growth and bless them. Drink blessed potential potions, eat herbs and then take on the void. Once your and your pet's speed is ~300 and their skill levels are in the hundreds for tactics/marksman/casting then you can take on Zeome. Teach them skills/abilities with the custom AI as well.
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>>15065911
If thou desire to kill him by any means, old good bells can still carry you. Get two or three of these bastards, equip them with guns and watch them rape poor warlock.
Or as another anon said take your time. On my first playthrough I came to him after more than two in-game years and breezed through the fight.
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>>15027149
>>15027159
>>15027170
Beans and Tacos are delicious and Aryans are indian/persians. Stop nazi-fying food, anons!
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>>15067237
And fried chicken and watermelon taste great together. Don't be a food nazi.
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>>15067243
Nigger.
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>>15065911
PS, Zeome won't cast unless he is adjacent to his target, so it's possible to kite him to death.
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>trying to be politically correct in 4chan of all places
toppest kek

Also 1.56 is out mates.
We finally got some deity buffs and new feat special actions, get hype.
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>>15067859
Knew about this, thanks though.
>>15066823
Damn gold bells...
>>15066481
I didn't do any of this, aside from setting a gold bell to only stay 3 tiles away from Zeome and attack from there.
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>>15068080
Protip: Breed some androids. Elona+ Custom allows you to teach abilities and spells to pets. Basic elona lets you train pets stats'. Meaning the only thing left that can't be transferred are the bitflags ( http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/NPC_bit_flags ). So pets with cArmour (-75% incoming damage, before armor is applied) or cRapidCasting will remain superior compared to other pets with identical stats.

Bells of course get a whopping -90% incoming damage (cMetal flag), but start with only 1 Life, so are far harder to train than androids.
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>>15026999
>>15027159
F*ck off Spics
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>>15068220
>>15067989
>trying to be politically correct in 4chan of all places

You're not a child. There's no reason for you to behave this at all; This is just unnecessary edge purely for it's own sake. Why is it so difficult for people like you to act like mature adults? Are you not 18+?
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>>15068238
You're a child trying to act like an adult
If it offends you, hide the post
Do not derail the thread by trying to police it
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>>15068238
Welp, you killed Europe, cpt. Tolerance. Are you happy now?
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>>15068238
The only people who care about trying to look adult are children.
Who gives a shit what some anonymous faggot on the internet says to another anonymous faggot? If you do, you're on the wrong site.
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>>15068307
>>15068299
>Not throwing around racial slurs for no reason but to look edgy is acting like a child.
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>>15068324
>Implying I actually use racial slurs
Just because I'm defending it doesn't mean I do it.
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>>15068324
nobody gives a shit mate, back to elona.
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can you all fuck off to /pol/, please ?
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>>15068324
who the FUCK are you quoting
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Will elona custom 1.55.4 work with e+ 1.56 or will things explode in fabulous ways?
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>>15068363
Wait for a new build or make a backup of your save.
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>>15068384
I'm starting a new file, I'm mostly impatient to play 1.56. Thanks anon.
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>>15068419
Make a backup anyway.
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>>15068470
Have to wait for friday to play 1.56 with custom, damn it.
Custom makes elona work a lot better, I don't think I want to go back to vanilla e+.
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>>15069917
Mainly was interested in getting my character's MP bug solved in 1.56 but you got me interested in seeing what else they added. Read the patch notes on the wiki and got curious about this:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AA-12_Advance

As far as guns go, it looks like my N97 cannon has some competition now. The AA-12 does good damage and has some good perks such as extra ranged attacks and mind damage. Definitely the weapon of choice for gunners that like fighting in melee range and for the android. That anon in this thread that seems to be raising an army of androids (Mani would be proud.) might want to look into giving his/her top android this weapon. Glad to be a gunner because we have a nice selection of static artifacts to use and progress through but Ano really needs to show some love to bow users.
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>>15070552
Bows and crossbows both, amigo

Although the only static crossbows that DO exist were added by Ano...
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>>15070552
>bow
It's hard to top the <Rainbow> though. What bows would you like to see?
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>>15070726
I'd like to see more static artifact bows with better damage dice. Currently the static artifact guns have them beat. Invokes on weapons are always welcome for the extra damage but I always worry about the amount that actually gets through due to enemy resists. Probably shouldn't be getting most of your damage from invokes but merely have it as icing on the cake me thinks.

Also I'd like to have more bows available at different points in Elona. Like, after the Wind Bow or Bow of Vinderre you'll go for a long time without another bow static arty until you get to Lost Irva for the Rainbow. I'd like a smoother progression of upgrades in the span between. Gun users don't really have to wait as long for their next upgrade. Like gun users have the Valkoinen to tide them over for South Tyris and other guns until they finally get the N97. I'd like to see bow users have something to aim for when they're in South Tyris too.

I agree that crossbow users need love too and with the same things I'd like to see for bows.
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Haven't played this in 2 years. So, is the Main Story translated yet? What about the lower continent(i forgot the name), any progress on that?
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>>15070935
Crossbows need some niche to fill, otherwise their rarity and use of a unique skill (as compared to just merging them with "bows" the same way firearms have their own blanket skill for all guns) means they're not worth picking up.
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>>15072097
Download in this order: Elona, Elona+, and Elona Custom. Elona+ is what Jap fans created to keep adding onto Elona after Noa left. Elona Custom is the English community's translation of Elona+ (with a few balancing tweaks and improved AI).

Short answer is yes, there has been progress.
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>>15072115
Alright nice. Time to play the game again.

I already have Elona+. Can I just skip downloading the first Elona and download the latest version of Elona+ and Custom or is the first one really necessary?
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>>15072138
In my experience, yes, you can skip the normal Elona download.
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We need more bows and xbows altogether, all this gun wankering makes me sick.
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WTF MY SAVE
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>>15072375
Rest in RIP peace. I hope you have a backup, losing the whole save would sucks.
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>>15072375
No idea why it starts happening, try changing to Japanese locale.
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>>15072375
Are you using the elonaplus.exe? For Elona custom you use the elona.exe instead, otherwise the translation won't apply properly.
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>>15072375
>>15072384
>>15072387
>>15072400
For some fucking reason, my save now wont play with custom but it plays normally with vanilla.

What do ?
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>>15072415
Do you by chance try to launch 1.55 custom with 1.56 Elona+?
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>>15072429
These are the setups im using
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>>15072434
Are... you playing them from inside the zip, for some reason? Without having extracted them?
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>>15072434
Have you updated your old save by loading elona+ or elonacustom?
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>>15072444
>>15072450
Ok lets start from scratch.

I recently reinstalled windows. Before, i was playing with 1.55.3 for weeks already.

Now after the reformat, i installed 1.55.3 again. This time i cant play with the custom exe, but the normal elonaplus.exe plays fine.
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>>15072463
Maybe you missing some files from custom installation? scene2.hsp etc. No idea otherwise, since with corrupted save you shouldn't be able to load it from normal elona.exe.
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>>15072483
Dunno, i also cant create a new save with the custom build.
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>>15072485
The last custom build for 1.55 is 1.55.4, the best I can suggest is trying to install that one.
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>>15072500
This is becoming very fucking strange.

I cant even start a new game with either 1.55.3 or 1.55.4
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>>15072517
Redownload 1.55, something probably got corrupted there.
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Also anons, Avast 2016 really doesn't like elona custom for some reason, so you might have to add your folder to exceptions if you use that.
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Anna solved the issue by stating that i have to run elonacustom with windows 7 compability settings. It works now...
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>>15073334
I just saw your post, and that was the first the first thing I was going to recommend.

Can we get this added to the paste bin? I've seen this come up a bunch of times already on the wiki and past jp threads. Especially with the proliferation of windows 10.

You must run in compat mode and as administrator or weird things happen.
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>>15073334
>>15073461
Added to the General Knowledge Pastebin, thanks.
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>By continuing, you agree to let Elona wiki user AnnaBannana to install a backdoor to your system, giving her full access to your machine.

da fuq is dis?
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>>15074801
Oh please, it's not any worse than Google's spying.
Incidentally, the program also installs an always-online Google Adbar that you cannot remove and will constantly serve you fullscreen ads 24/7.
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>>15074931
How come no one's ever bothered by this? I looked around, and it seems like I'm the first to point this out. I mean, a backdoor is still a backdoor.
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>>15075357
As long as I get my 24/7 full screen ads on my computer I'm ok with a backdoor. I can't wait for key logger extension.
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>>15074801
Where does it say this?
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>>15075395
It's from the April Fool's Elona Custom update
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>>15075404
Aw shit. Fucking got me.
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>>15074801
>>15074931
>>15075357
>>15075372
I'd let Anna backdoor me anyday.
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>>15075404

Is everything saying onii-chan part of the April Fool's update too, or did I just go full ape and break the game?
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It's amusing how some people gets triggered by this thread. It's not the only complaint in other forums mind you.
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>>15076595
>derails thread to shitpost
no anon you're the trigger
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>>15076595
Which chan is this anyway?
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There was a guy working on bringing back the chat server. Has there been any progress on that?
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>>15076595
4+4ch

>>15076595
Very effective redaction. When you don't know how search engines work at least.
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>>15076941
>hurr look there is one working brain cell in my head
Take my congratulations, Anon!
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>>15076897
Apparently it'll continue at some point 'after tax-season'. Or when (s)he finds time.
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>>15077216
The chat is missed, hope it comes back soon.
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>>15076595
Putting aside the overall shittiness of those people I found something:

>https://(4 * 2)ch.net/roguelike/res/15.html#q237

TL;DR how to make artifacts using EloSnack.
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>>15077279
at least hipsterchan is useful for something
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>>15077310
You're calling them hipsters when the people in this thread are worried about political correctness?
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Stop being niggers you bunch of beaners and just go play our chink game.
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>>15077642
Allow me to pre-empt you:

>PC police gone wild! Going to throw us all in thought-prison for our thought crimes! CENSORSHIP!

>>15077695
So cool. So edgy. Say something else!
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>>15077642
Don't need to be a hipster to not be racist, yadda, yadda, yadda, go back to fucking /pol/ with all of this. Can we get back to just talking about Elona please? I'll start, what named NPC or monster do you hate the most in Elona or hate fighting? I really don't like fighting mass monsters. I think they eat my stuff? They also multiply when hit. I once ran into a whole room of these guys and the last thing I remember was waking up in my home with a condom in my ass.
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>>15077732
>Monster you hate fighting?

Probably 5-head gods. I just don't know where to start with those shitters. Fun tip: convert the sample 'little brother' NPC in-game through F8 and go to the puppy cave. I think you'll be surprised as to how many master yeeks there are there.
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>>15077732
Nobody being racist in the first place, just bunch of normies getting triggered by beaners and stuff.
>they eat my stuff
So much this. Nothing compares to fucking sea lion eating my herbed curaria. The second one is probably room filled with bomb rocks, pets just like shadowstepping inside like a lemmings unless you stop them.
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>>15077858
Put your herbs in the cooler to make sure it doesn't happen.
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>>15077811
I hate those guys too. Take forever to kill and they bully my pets. Once my pets are gone I have to pray they did enough damage to it for me to survive the encounter. Those guys also don't care about the people around them. I've seen them wipe out whole rooms just to kill me. I also hate the stag god. It draws you in sometimes when running away and its pincers cut me in half. Meanwhile Atlas's punch me through walls...
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[Changes and additions]
* Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes. To make up for that, made godly equipment come with more attributes.
* Doing melee attacks when equipped with a shield will give Shield skill experience.
* Reduced shield casting penalty from 12% to 5%.

[Fixes]
* Fixed some descriptions.
* Made it possible to wish for secret characters in the English version.
* NB: "secretcharacter"
* Fixed English map name for Harvest Time quests.
* Fixed 1.56 unique NPC having a higher level than it should due to the Cradle of Chaos bonus.

>>15077858
Reminds me of that guy who had a monster eat his caramel of termination. Heh.
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>>15078103
Could you stop posting changelogs without at least putting in a title at the top? I never know whether these are for Elona+ or Elona Custom without manually going to the elona custom thread and checking for an update there.
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>>15078145
These are from elona+ bulletin most likely. And I rather have someone translating them, because google translate cant do moonrunes decently.
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>>15078103
1.57 already? Interesting.

>Made it possible to wish for secret characters in the English version.

Hello.
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>>15078103
>Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes.
RIP my War Armor with 5 #s of magic resist.
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>>15078289
In all fairness, sometimes the bonus attributes could be pretty op. Like #####+ of extra attack or ##### of [damage] tacked onto the normal bonuses.
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>>15078289
I think it means it won't come naturally with random enchants, so rerolling them with little sisters/material scrolls won't do anything. The equipment attributes already on the equipment/artifact enchanting system probably remain as they are.

If that's the case, it's probably a good change for people who don't like rerolling artifacts because there's more space for nefia tears and most random enchants are minor and negligible anyway. Or something like that.
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Maybe it's coincidence but I've been noticing a lot of cats moving into my farms. Like this one field. Maybe I'm growing catnip? Well whatever, I'm sure Ehekatl would be sad if I shooed them off and as long as they don't consume all my herbs I'm ok with them.

As for enemy I hate the most. I currently do not like the Performaid Pinchief.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Performaid_pinchief

Experiences with them in normal dungeons might be different but here in the void where everything has lots of life, they take on a whole new level of deadliness for me. She casts lightning and slow which are bothersome but what truly makes her deadly is the fact that she summons the rest of the performaid gang.

If allowed to live, she'll keep summoning them and the other performaids that she brings out have abilities that take me apart brick by brick. One of the performaids casts silence. Another performaid can dim you. Then another one can brainwash you. Taken as a whole expect to be stripped naked(goodbye all my superb+++++ resists and immunities), insulted, dimmed, silenced, MP breathed on, slowed, have spells spammed at, and have a couple of them shadowstep to you and try to keep you away from the Pinchief that's summoning them all.

This hasn't happened yet but I shudder to think of the day I run into a room in the void filled with nothing but Pinchiefs. I seriously have thought this over and I'm almost tempted to say that I'd probably rather fight a whole room of inner god Yacatects(Out of all the gods I thought she was the easiest to fight but I'm sure experiences may differ.) than fight a room full of Pinchiefs.
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Anyone have any tips for building solid allies? I'm still on my first run so I don't know too much about it but I'm pretty addicted.

I was running with a decent sized party but I cut it down to just me to gain some solid levels for a while and now I'm thinking of traveling together again.

I'm kinda curious too if it's possible to build a team with just humans. I mean, I know it's POSSIBLE but how viable is it? Sorry if this is common knowledge.
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>>15078708
The level/attribute cap is super-high, enough that you could use pretty much any pet to kill anything if you grind its stats high enough. But also keep in mind >>15068182
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>>15078769
Nice, I figured it was like that. I might try and get a little grind happy and shoot for an all human team then for the sake of it. I'm a fan of the Dragon Quest games so maybe I'll model it like that.
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>>15078708
Don't know if you know this but your AP is full. Convert your AP into stuff. I'd recommend speed.
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>>15078914
I've been dungeon diving for a while now so I just haven't made a run to convert it.

Thanks for reminding me though, I hadn't even noticed. I'll get some good boosts out of that.
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>>15078515
What's dupli?
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>>15079361
It's a toggled special action tied to Magic Device; it allows you to use offensive rods limitlessly for 2 stamina per cast.
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I forgot, how do you manually aim your spells?
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>>15079523
Press L and pick a target.
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>>15079523
>>15079526
You can use * to pick an empty tile as well, though this only really works with line spells.
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>>15079526
>>15079532
ty ty
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>>15079385
How good is it damage-wise compared to regular spells?
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>>15080973
Not that guy, but I imagine it'd be at least decent if you went in focusing your character around using magic device and alchemy.
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>>15080973
>>15081005

Ehh... rods are always inferior to the spells themselves unless you have an extremely skewed character build (high magical device, low spellcasting), because spells can benefit from all sorts of equipment buffs and feats that enhance spells, and you can level up spells much faster than (magical device) skills.
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>>15078515
To add to my post. An honorable mention goes out to the sleeping giant aka mage bane.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sleeping_giant

Mercifully, these giants are sometimes asleep so you can ignore them but when they're active they can be tough to bring down especially in void. They're immune to elemental spells and are highly resistant to magic damage. I usually use my gun on them or have my weapon wielding pets assist me. Still, they're quite the damage sponge.

>>15080973
I originally picked up Magic Device as a solution to getting silenced. Previously, I had created stacks of holy light scrolls however enemies would just keep reapplying silence. Magic Device proved to be a better solution as I could just keep blasting with it.

I currently have a Magic Device of 1250 and it has the potential to do more damage than some of the spells I cast. For instance, nothing will beat meteor which rods don't have at the moment. Highlighted in blue is the damage I do with a lv 939 magic dart spell. Highlighted in green is the damage I do with a magic dart rod. The damage I do with the rod is higher than when I cast the spell. Highlighted in yellow is the damage I do with a rod of magic dart when I enable dupli. Dupli lowers the damage you do with rods however you can use rods without expending charges. Excellent for training or if you're lazy like I am and can't be bothered with making more rods through carpentry.

Highlighted in orange is something special. Quick Use is a special action you can learn that allows you to attack twice in one round using a rod. So the effective damage I did was about 62,000. Highlighted in red was me using a rod of magic dart with quick use and dupli turned off. Effective damage was about 113,000 which is pretty amazing for magic dart. The damage you see here is all from void enemies. Expect much higher numbers in normal dungeons. All this power comes at a cost though whether it be consumption of rod charges, stamina, or both. Your stamina is a whole lot less than your mp bar and charges are a more precious resource than spell stock so keep that in mind.

You can get some amazing damage out of Magic Device but you may need access to stronger heals which Magic Device I think lacks. As such, I recommend pairing it with casting like I did. It complements casting very well and you can consider yourself a true mage in the sense that you cast your spells form both yourself and magic devices.

What's nice is that after a certain level of casting, meditation, literacy, etc you don't need to level them as much since eventually you'll be able to read and cast everything fairly well yet the actual damage you do with spells is independent of those skills. Spell damage mostly comes from spell levels and your magic attribute. As such, you can eventually just focus on that skill and dump your level up bonus points, AP, or just train it naturally.
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I cant seem to loot items at the end of party time quests, 1.56.1
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>>15081490
Thanks for explanation.
I got mana issues as a low-level caster, even with only magic dart spam my mana bar lasts for 2 dungeon floors at best and takes as long to recharge. With 1.56 sp recovery buff dupli-caned rod of magic laser sounds like a good thing to use in-between normal casts.
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>>15081625
Not sure if Anna has updated Custom for 1.56 yet, so if you're just playing Elona+, party time looting isn't an option.
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>>15081781
>>15081625
There's a bug. New build tomorrow fixing it.
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>you hope it's not zebras
I don't get it.
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How long does it take for a thread to fall off the catalog...?
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>>15082346
Japan hates race mixing
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>>15082346
Because zebras are the first thing anyone thinks of when they hear hoofbeats. It's a proven fact according to Lomias.
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>>15082346
Hoofbeats? It certainly can't be a horse! Yep, the only rational answer is zebra.
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>>15082551
>>15082588
Well, if that's the joke, then I certainly didn't expect Monty Python-ish humor from jp dews.
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>>15082920
Noa strikes me as a huge westaboo, so it's not that surprising.
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