Mahjong

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>>15000813
Any newbie guide?

>>15000843
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html
Scroll down and read the rules at the bottom. Look up yaku and furiten on arcturus, and you're good to go. Remember your hand needs one yaku to become a valid hand, and dora is not a yaku.

>>15000843
Arcturus has about everything you need.

In particular, you can start with this:
http://arcturus.su/wiki/Japanese_mahjong
http://arcturus.su/wiki/List_of_yaku

You also may play games against bots on tenhou before trying to face actual players. See how to here:
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/lobbies-games.html (See the Test Play section at the bottom. I recommend Ari Red.)

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>>15000889
>>15000917
Thanks

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>win one game easily
>lose right after by 2000 points because everyone had been shuffling around 20k-30k range all game
It all feels like such a waste.

>>15000954
And if reading stuff isn't your fancy. Here's your walk through:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0brmqq4sk

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>>15001881
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016033102gm-0029-0000-62a12189&tw=1
Well, after better check in log I exaggerated a little with
>everyone keep dealing into his hand like retards
Sometimes it's hard to judge things after first check when you AGAIN lose by ippatsu tsumo haneman when you were oya. Kamicha and shimocha do nothing (that much) wrong, but toimen was still lucky bastard.

>Throwing out the live dora
I could agree with you, but I cannot. If you think about it, there were no 8m left, so the only possibility is wait on tanki/shanpon. Kamicha is unlikely, because it's almost obviously honitsu. Shimocha drop 8m already and it's unlikely that he could be on tanki/shanpon wait with yaku without riichi. My discards are weird, but it's still was unlikely that I could be in tenpai - I would agree if I call that ton before riichi, but it was after toimen's move.

>Damn. And I thought I acted too cocky sometimes.
Well, it's not so stupid in certain situations, but I think that furiten riichi is better lesbian move than this.

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>>15001952
It isn't as though you played perfectly that hand either.
>If you think about it, there were no 8m left, so the only possibility is wait on tanki/shanpon.

Which is the exact kind of wait you don't want to deal the dora into? There were fully live sets of honor tiles more than half way into the round. The dora was definitely dangerous there.

>>15002096
>pic
Explain further. And if you talk about that 5s later, ryanmen 67m was still superior to lone 6s. At the moment when I get 4s it was furiten possibility if I end with 36s and ton wait. On the other side 1333s give me very good blockade on low sozu and prevent others from moving their hand without droping 12s (unless some lucky bastard don't get ankou).

About dora I explain you why it's very unlikely that anyone was in tenpai at the moment when toimen called riichi. But ok, assume that someone is waiting on shanpon/tanki. You called riichi here and two turns later draw 9m. Seems even worse to me, because you lose extra 1000 points from riichi stick. And don't even try to prove me than anyone would bail with shanpon dora here - someone else deal this way few hands earlier.

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>>15001946
>>15001947
2:0 again.

>>15002260
Not increasing uke-ire because of an easily avoidable furiten doesn't seem very smart. If you were so intent on getting the ton, you could just dump the 5/5/7p and be left with two ryanman waits. It also would have given the hand the flexibility to become open tanyao if you gave up on the ton (which would have been good to do when the 4-man was thrown rather than to wait on 2 tiles which could both be in the deal wall.)

There's nothing to indicate that no one is in tenpai at the point he riichi'd. You mentioned the 8-man being all gone, but none of the 9 was thrown out at that point. Since it's the dora, there's certainly nothing wrong with being cautious about it. On the subject of "folding," I don't have to prove shit, because your kamicha folded with a hand of equal value to one you're referring to.

You're just throwing a broken English bitch-fit because things aren't going your way when they had no damn reason to. You aren't owed a win by Tenhou, but you could have perhaps earned one by playing better.

>Doing bad
>"It's okay. I can still knock the other guy to 4th.
>The only thing that can kill me outright would be a dealer haneman tsumo.
>3rd turn dealer ippatsu haneman tsumo next hand

I'd tell you to just kill me, but I'm already dead.

>>15003417
>getting depressed over Korean legos
lol

Is there a way either in tenhou or MJ to have a private room with just two people and bots? Or another client all together?

>>15000889
>>15000917
Not that guy, but thanks for these. Played a bit if mahjong a few years ago and wanted to get back into it so this is a nice refresher, especially on yaku. Quickly got a reminder to not call everything like a retard which was helpful

>>15000636
>losing against idiots
>two 4 dan and 5
Sounds like somebody got outplayed

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016033117gm-0089-0000-0f0a07aa&tw=2

Don't play like toimen, holy shit.

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Do people like this thing?

>>15004021
You mean don't deal into dama? Because that's kinda hard

>>15004042
Oh wait it was an open hand, I had a brain fart

>>15004042
He held onto the single hatsu for too long in E3 BH1. Granted, he also was really unlucky there.

Then on E3 BH2 he pushed with his cruddy hand by discarding kamicha's seat wind when it was live.

>>15004049
>>15004021
Dropping that live north into north riichi was still retarded. Sure he was down a lot but it's not like he was close to a decent tenpai and it was still E3

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Man, mahjong is so fun
Almost as fun as hitting stuff with pinky toe

>>15004998
Take a break if you aren't enjoying it. It's not like there's some pot of gold you'll get if you play it long enough, and there's plenty of other games on the internet to play.

>>15004036
That's just your tile efficiency drills.

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>>15004998

Okay, what is this shit?

I just lost a game where my R was 48.5 points above the table average and my R was reduced by 30 points.
Then I won a game where my R was 71 points below the table average and only gained back 26 points.

Shouldn't this be symmetrical, so I should've won back more points than I lost, since my R was across both tables below the average?
The game where I won had overall higher ranked players as well.
Also the two games were only 3 games apart, so my number of played games should be negliable here.

>>15005323
>Shouldn't this be symmetrical
afaik it depends on games played

>>15005323
If you're that curious, you can try manually plugging all the relevant numbers into the formula here:
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ids-ranks.html

change = adjustment*(base+(average table rate - own rate)/40)

adjustment = 1-(games played*0.002) if games played < 400 | 0.2 if games played >=400

base = +30/+10/-10/-30 for 1/2/3/4.

In any case, if your R is changing by 20-30 at a time, you barely have any games in the first place. So three games difference in your total could very well have a disproportionate impact.

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040102gm-0009-0000-514d936e&tw=2

I decided to go full occult with the first hand and it paid off.

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>>15005655
>Full occult

No my man. You could have gone for a toitoi honitsu honroutou dora 2 with 2 yakuhai for a baiman.

>>15005696
True. I should have put my faith in the gods of mahjong.

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Let's play.

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>>15005923
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>>15000813
>not believing in the Flow

Good job with those kans, oya.

>>15006039
I made baum a rich man.

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>>15006034
>flow

Control is a much more powerful tool to work with.

>>15005655
>discarding nan instead of 9-man

You almost fucked that up.

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>>15005655
Is this in 7447?

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>>15007335
>0:4

two colon zero

Friendly reminder to learn yaku before playing in 7447

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>>15007878
This really should be a part of the OP in every thread.

>>15007927
It's not that we don't want new players, generally people are helpful to beginners in these threads, at least with my personal experience. But you've gotta put a bit of work in. Otakaze pon may as well be a meme.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040112gm-0089-0000-f988793c&tw=2

This was pretty exciting.

>>15008020
D had absolutely no reason to riichi the last hand, and had a pretty awful wait. Worked out great for you though.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040112gm-0009-0000-6ab9e651&tw=3

A great start to the month, can't wait to get 4th in the next 4 games I play.

>>15008157
>Multiple 3 dan in ippan

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>muh game winner

>>15008396
Sad.

>>15000813
>second place with 0 points, without any yakuman from dealer

well fuck

started

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Rinshan doesn't work that way.

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Nice start

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>>15010480
Nice start, my ass, Adam.

>>15010593
Git gud Maggie.

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Houou soon.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016033121gm-0029-0000-c27cfddb&tw=0
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016033121gm-0029-0000-4266c037&tw=0
Thoughts?

>>15011260
cool, gambare

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79 games to get to 2nd dan. I expected a smoother ride.

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>>15011260
>Those hand developments

So this is the power of houou.

>>15011636
>>15011792
That's a bot, in case someone doesn't know.
https://twitter.com/ai_mahjong

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>>15011744
I know that feel. Getting to 2dan took me 70.

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>>15011960
Wrong ayyyy file

>>15011792
Yes, it is.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040205gm-00a9-0000-0f952092&tw=0

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>>15012164
I don't ever want to be in the same lobby as these guys.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040207gm-0089-0000-d230a20e&tw=3
>don't do much all game
>nearly fuck up last hand forgetting about swap calling
>noten penalty win
jej

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What would YOUR bullshit mahjong superpower be?

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>>15013658
>mfw, getting ron'd so much

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>First Tokujou win after starting 0+1+2+7

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What a way to end the hand. B almost had a kazoe yakuman.

First time I've ever actually seen a suukaikan.

>>15014574
>12 dora
Holy crackers.

>>15000813
2.4

>>15014141
I don't think that's a superpower

>>15014819
When someone can pick one out of 13 tiles and ippatsu more than 50% of the time, that has to some psychic mind power..

Holy shit, this guy needs a better connection.

>>15014590
There are 13 dora in that hand, including the aka 5-man.

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Post bullshit hands

>>15011963
>>15011744
Why is my R so much lower than anyone elses, when my hand win rate and my deal-in rate both seem to be really good?
I have .244 hand win rate and .078 deal-in rate in joukyuu, yet I struggle to stay above 1700 R.
What might be the reason, please help.

>>15015340
Placing is all that matters.

>>15015340
Post your pic.

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>>15015343
yes, but shouldn't placing largely depend on hand win and deal-in rate?
>>15015344

>>15015362
>Call rate .451
>1st place .222
Stop aiming for cheap kuitan. Get more agressive and aim bigger hands.

>>15015377
Aggressive as in, if you can improve your hand with more yaku, go on. Try something wider than just yakuhai/open tanyao.

Sure you won't lose many from 2nd position, but you won't get shit, either.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040222gm-0029-0000-04b16206&tw=3

>E1-E3
Da heck?

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>>15015059
>Nice double riichi. Would be a shame if something happened to it.

>>15015703
Why didn't he cut the 9p? Might as well get a tanyao while you're at it right?

>>15015723
9p is much more likely to be discarded

>>15015723
Maybe because terminals are more likely to come out than middle tiles? Still I agree that discarding 9p would've been better.

>>15015723
I would have done the same. Doesn't usually people asume terminals to be relatively safe tiles? Also especially in the first turns people tend to cut their terminals. You can't read his dicards anyway.

>>15015723
Truth be told he should've waited for an edge wait and went for the mangan instead of gambling on a tanki for double riichi.

>>15015756
I would agree with you normally but considering he's the dealer, first and foremost he should prioritize winning rather than waiting.

>>15015723
The question is - do you really want tanyao that much here? In worst case scenario this hand is worth 7700 from ron and became mangan with single ura.
With tanyao you secure 1160 from ron, but 3s is more flexible and way easier to use in other hands, so enjoy your oikake.
If you draw tsumo it really doesn't matter, because you need two ura dora to haneman, which is not worth the effort (if you ron someone else it's still mangan).
Of course you also can wait for better shape (riichi+tanyao+pinfu+dora is almost the same as this daburu and give you more winning title), but I don't think it's a bad move (and hey! It's always nice to throw daburu riichi).

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>>15015833
He gets a better wait with any of these tiles:

6-8-9m
1-2-3-4-5-6-7p
5-6-8-9s

14 tile types, 56 tiles (46 when we subtract the ones he already has in his hand). The odds of drawing one of those tiles is pretty high. If all of them are in the wall it's higher than 50%, if half of them are in the other players' hands it's around 25%.

It's just way too impatient to go for a double riichi with a tanki on a number tile when you have so many ways to improve your wait. Just because 9p is a normally unwanted tile doesn't mean it's going to flow out super easily after you riichi.

>>15015900
I forgot to add 5m in there, so 50 tiles.

>>15015743
>discarding 9p would've been better.
In terms of value, yes. Regarding chances of actually winning the hand? No, because of:

>>15015742

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040305gm-0089-0000-d75bd7da&tw=0

>Make the most retarded move in S3 and deal in
>S4 orasu with 11k points, 3rd place is 13k points up, first place is 28.5k points up
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9EN27Zh_vg
>Hit the riichi button and start praying

Never stop believing, boys.

>1+0+0+0
I should stop here this month. It's all downhill from here.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040307gm-0089-0000-dccf25d4&tw=0

>mfw being first dealer allowed me to secure first place

I can't get out of one of the event lobbies in the tenhou client, what do I do to fix this?

>>15018063
Get out without the crack.

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>it's a suji trap episode

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>>15018126
>Double suji trap after riichi

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We got lesbians in here.

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>>15018126
>it's a forever isshanten episode

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0+2+3+1
nice start ~

Anyone know if tenhou stores the links to the games you played on the browser in the cache, local storage or somewhere else?

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>>15018334
Here try this

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>>15018351
1+1+3+3 = 8戦

Yea. Fuck this shit.

>3+0+0+0 = 3戦
I'm too nervous to carry on

>4+11+5+5 = 25戦

Tanked it pretty hard from my decent start yesterday.

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>1+1+5+5

>>15019272
>2 days
>25 hanchan

You must be some kind of madman.

In 7447 right now

2 dan
4 dan
5 dan
6 dan

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>>15019359

26 now. Every month I try my best to rush to 30 games and then watch my standings drop lower and lower as more and more people reach 30 games.

I'm playing this much because I'm really procrastinating.

>>15019369
What's wrong with that?

>>15019475
Nothing, the point was if anyone wants to watch, this should be a relatively good match.

>>15019482
It was a blowout ;-;

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>>15019482
>a relatively good match
And it was.

NoName is doing good this month.

Let's keep it up, legion.

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>>15019781
>Noname is ahead of a 4-dan

Wow. That's a drastic turnaround from -2k points last month.

>>15019864
Where'd you get that table?

>>15020056

http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all_en.php

>>15020097
that's pretty dandy

>>15020106
>>15020097
well it would be, but I keep getting cloudflare

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>>15000813

>>15020175
forgot question
the top three is explained in the doc, but what does the bottom 4 mean?

>>15020179
Jansou rule, I think. Some yaku (aka-dora, ippatsu, etc) gets additional counter, which worth few thousands points after final calculation.
Those are bot menu, right? You can just try it yourself.
>>15020112
http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all_en.php?l=L7447&m=1

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>>15019864
If Kyuu didn't get his gyakuten, it'd be much higher.

>>15020413
It's not like 7447 stats mean anything, no one plays seriously and ranks are all over the place.

>>15020451
Yeah well, today's games are betaori simulator. More so than the others I played for the last 3 days.

>>15020491
Might as well play betaori simulator in ranked then.

>>15020506
UNIVERSE please. Don't get so worked up.
I'm just saying that it'd be nice to see NoName up there once in a while.

>>15019864
Oh come on. It's the monthly ranking and April just started.

>>15020528
>UNIVERSE
Don't you dare call me that ever again.

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>>15020528
What did I do to deserve the GoGo treatment?

>>15020491
>>15020506
It's either betaori simulator or ippan simulator where everyone can't stop calling
Pick your poison

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I feel like I've made 0 progress and I'm still terrible.

>>15020864
Is that your first account? Don't sweat it. You want to work on dealing in less, your deal-in rate is higher than your win rate.

>>15020864
do you know suji, genbutsu and other defense techniques? Use them and defend more. You'll find yourself in 4th place a lot less.

>>15020878
Most times I defend I usually don't deal in; thing is, most times I don't defend because I am stupid.

>>15020961
Defending in ippan isn't particularly important. What you need are big hands and preferably lots of them. Your problem is your really low win rate.

You either need to cut your deal in rate down, or raise your win rate. Consider calling more tiles especially if you have multiple dora in your hand.

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>>15018126
>it's call riichi and deal in few turns later episode

>>15020961
You just have to learn to give up if it seems like you won't be able to complete your hand. Even if you don't win any points, someone else will usually fall behind you after getting ron'd. Avoid 4th place at all cost.

>>15021112
It's definitively important when it's plain obvious you're not gonna make it. And there are many such cases in any table.

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Does anybody still play this?

I want to play, but Tenhou just seems to slow after playing this for so long.

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>>15022508
Netplay never got cracked, did it? It's too bad, I would love to play aotenjou with you guys, just to see how crazy it would get.

>>15022524
Is that the only mahjong program that includes aotenjou rule?

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>>15022524
Nope, that's why i imported the game.

Probably would play without powers because it makes for stupidly easy Yakuman and some are just downright broken and unfun (Yamame can fuck off with those webs)

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Why would you even riichi that hand? It's already a fucking haneman.

Always have faith in gyakufuckingten.

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>>15022636

>>15022636
Suji.

>>15022636
>bitching out and not getting a BYEMAN with uradora
You're the disgusting one

>>15022636
... why didn`t that guy give up on his 1p's is his fucking fault

>>15022989
Ah nevermind, it was orasu and he had low points

>>15022636
This >>15022712
The fact that 6m is in the discards makes 9m actually more likely to be played if you riichi.

>>15023063
oh wait, I'm stupid, 6m was played later.

I would think that if /jp/sies played mahjong, that there would also be threads for anons to play shiritori together. Why is there not?

>>15023101
How would that even work?

>>15023111
Couldnt one just post a word in reply to anothers word in long chains? I guess the threads would run out too fast and people would consider posts with so little text in them as "shitposting"

>>15023101
Because very few people know Japanese.

>>15023101
Shiritori is not a fun game when you have all the time to look up for words in the internet.

>>15023179
Well thats lame cheating but some people would ruin the fun by trying to be the "best".

>>15023215
With the post cooldown timer, you would be much better off doing something like that in IRC.

>>15023219
Good thinking. Makes much more sense.

>>15023101
What I'd like to play with /jp/ is something like hanafuda, but I'm down for an anonymous shiritori game on IRC.

Anyone for 2am Mahjong?

3:0

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Whoever Noname is, kindly fuck off with your "only riichi" hands.

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>>15023356

>>15023356
That's pinfu too. What are you whining about?

That suji was noice mate

>>15023356
>getting mad at someone else because you dealt in
Like pottery.

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>>15022508
Glad there are other fumoanons that play mahjong.

2:0

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Well that explains a lot.

Get back in L7447 faggots.

2:0

2:4 lads

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040413gm-0001-0000-6eb9d551&tw=3
No one expects a chankan. I felt all giddy when I actually pulled it off.

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>>15023922
>not purposely aiming for chankan

>>15023945
I'd be interested to know if that kan came before or after the riichi.

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Decision time!

Discard 5p (3 live tiles) or discard 4p (4 live tiles)?

>>15024173
5p. It's only E3, plus you get sanankou by tsumo, and hatsu isn't too unlikely to come out if someone draws it.

>>15024173
Dump the 5 pin and hope you can pull a San An Kou.

>>15024173
Both waits are pretty bad so you might as well take the slightly less likely 4p Hatsu wait for san ankou or hope someone else drops the hatsu if they draw it.

>>15024173
Discard 5p because of sanankou with the suji trap to help you.

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>>15024196
>Suji trap

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>>15024182
>>15024185
>>15024187
>>15024196
All of you busters have a better grasp of the flow than I do. Would have been a baiman.

>>15024198
Guessing he means that since I would have 5p and 8p in my discards 2p would look safe.

>>15024198
>>15024201
Fuck I'm dumb. He's right, I misinterpreted it and thought your wait was 2p.

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>>15024201
>flow
>not ippatsu

Work on it.

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>>15024208
This was from the same match, so I at least got one ippatsu, sir. I'll try harder, sir.

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>>15024017

>>15024305
Should have gone for concealed chin itsu instead of that riichi only hand.

>>15024346
Sometimes, going for the slower obvious big hand, means -- you're not going to get it.

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Haitei Raoyue > Double Riichi

>>15024623
>haitei nomi + dora
Fuck

>>15024484
Except he'd have a tenpai as soon as he drew that 7p or if he called that 1p from south. The argument that bigger hands are too slow doesn't apply here.

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Suwako wants to learn Mahjong, any anons around to show her the ropes?

>>15026626
2.0

>>15026642
3.0

>>15026015
>>15024484
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2014081622gm-0009-0000-7a5d0f55&tw=2
It's a very old game, so I didn't know much. Not that 2 years later it's getting better ;_;

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>>15026626
>>15026655

Suwako seems to have learnt a valuble lesson in these games, and hopes to apply what she's learnt in future. Good games anons

2:0

>>15027465
3:0

>Ryanpeikou Junchan

Beautiful.

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How to fuck everyone over with a kan.

>>15027662
In the moment, I was extremely unhappy with that kan.

>>15027540
>>15027544
KABOOM!

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>>15027662
Yeah that sucked, a lot. Then I got the hell wait 3 sou and dealt in for haneman after the 3 ura dora.

That first hand just screwed my whole game up because I had to get more aggressive.

I'm curious where all the 9 sou were though.

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3:4.

>>15027544
Too bad, I was still not good enough to keep the lead.
>>15027676
Corak's hand would have been a pretty nice hand too.

Another win for the NoName Alliance.

>>15027891
I've won as NoName three times tonight. Feels good

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Reminder: don't quit until the very end!

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>2 NoName in the same game

2:8

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>>15028218
Yea, what a bunch of disgusting sub-humans.

>>15028276
NoNames that actually try to win and don't ragequit are decent people.

The problem is that it's impossible to tell the difference until it happens.

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>>15028281
They look to be doing pretty well so far.

A man must riichi all his important hands, even yakuman with dead waits

>>15027544
This shit is as beautiful as a yakuman.

>>15028596
see >>15023707

>>15027544
Why isn't this a yakuman?

>>15028719
Why would it be?

>>15028719
While a combination of junchan ryanpeikou can be rare... it's not rare enough to be one. Or considered to be one.

>>15028811
It's the first time I've seen a junchan ryanpeikou ever since I played a few years back. I've had a lot of daisangen and suuankou but never a junchan ryanpeikou.

>>15028820
Junchan chiniitsu is even more difficult.

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remember lad, drug is bad, mess with your head.

guess i'm not gonna grind today.

3:0.

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>pinfu is now a yaku

what happens?

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>>15030234

*open pinfu

>>15030238
>>15030238
I stop playing this shitty game forever.

Wanna play?

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>>15030234
I bring a gun to the table and enforce my own rules.

3:4

Wanna play?

>>15027544
Magnificent.

3:0

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>tfw game hate you

3:0 again.

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Why would you ever riichi this late and in a situation like this? Respect the dragons.

>>15031361
because hell waits are fun

>>15031361
Because the last hatsu is under the table. You're getting taken for a ride.

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>>15031361
1f3 did!

>>15031361
see
>>15022648

>tfw you riichi into furiten and tsumo anyway

ayy

>>15031361
Riichiing against the dealer and against someone in possible tenpai for daisangen is a death wish. The stupidity of some people amazes me.

Why is being dealer in oorasu a good thing if you're only supposed to win your hands 1/4 of the time, everyone else is attacking, you lose more points when someone tsumos and you always get the lesser placement if you tied points with someone?

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>>15031577
Because the game continues as long as you win, unless you win and are in 1st place, in which case it immediately ends. It creates a situation where you can make a comeback that no one else will have an opportunity to topple.

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>>15031504
I delayed riichi'ing and avoided dealing in with the 5 man, then decided to oikake because someone else was taking the same risk, and because it's E1 in a 7447 game, so what was there to lose? And even if you call it stupid, in the end it got the best result.

>>15031608
In reality, though, by south 4 it's generally an open tanyao/fanpai race and you won't get a chance to do much with that dealer turn.

>>15028811
>While a combination of junchan ryanpeikou can be rare... it's not rare enough to be one
Nope, even Ryanpeikou alone is about as common as the more common yakuman hands. What's a yakuman hand is just not based on probability alone, otherwise San Kantsu would need to be Yakuman as well.

>>15031577
Look at it this way: As dealer you're ability to overtake other players is bigger than when you're not dealer. In other words the dealer has the greatest influence on the game. However if you're dealer early it's more difficult to estimate when it's better to defend and when to attack, because you don't know about the exact points you will need. In Oorasu this is easier, and it is an advantage to be in the most influential position (dealer) while also having the most information about how you should play (Oorasu).

>>15031714
Discarding 8 was correct, but why riichi? You had pinfu anyway so you could've ronned without riichi while avoiding the risk of dealing in or losing the riichi stick.

>>15031714
Your risk analysis needs work if you believe the dealer isn't in the advantage in this situation, assuming hands are closed.

>in the end it got the best result.
Running into traffic might not get you killed the first or second time, but do it enough and you'll end up through someone's windshield. It may be 7447 but that doesn't mean you stop thinking.

>>15031763
Because dealing into Daisangen wouldn't have been a big deal since the game would have ended, and I was just as likely to deal into the dealer from not folding. The only matter left is losing the riichi stick, which I would consider a non-issue in this circumstance.

>>15031768
Your risk analysis also needs work if you're going to compare a game to running in traffic. I don't know about you, but I play to have fun.

>>15031806
>and I was just as likely to deal into the dealer from not folding
Only if you had planned to not fold, even if you draw very dangerous tiles. Without riichi you'd keep that option and could either attack or defend, depending on what you draw.

>>15031806
Do you not know what an analogy is?
>I play to have fun.
Then say that from the beginning instead of trying to justify yourself as if that move logically made sense.

>>15031822
Seeing as the 8 man was dangerous against bk anyway, and there were only 2 draws left, I was fine with that. Again, either result in regards to Daisangen was fine.

>>15031837
>Do you not know what an analogy is?
Yes. And I know you're shit at making them.
>Then say that from the beginning instead of trying to justify yourself as if that move logically made sense.
Why do I have to state that I'm playing in 7447 for fun? Does that not seem obvious to you? bk made a worse move than I did, so why aren't you eager to bitch at him too?

>>15031840
I don't think we have the same "concept of "fine", but ok.

>>15031729
Not really. You get as many defensive south 4s as you do aggressive ones. Keep in mind that going aggressive in south 4 as the lead also limits your defensive capability which can easily backfire.

>>15031862
Probably because bk isn't making an ass of himself like you are?

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Delicious tournament tickets.

So, where do I get to spend these? I've looked around, even in the event boxes that says "tournament". However, it's the blue ranked lobby tickets, that gets spent there.

>>15031361
Wait. Did this daisangen happen?

>>15031862
Because it wasn't a smart move. If you just stated "I felt like messing around" or something along those lines, it would've been the end of it, but the fact that you go through great lengths to defend yourself makes me believe that you perhaps didn't know any better.
And bk seemed as if he was riichiing to defend his dealer turn although some people here tend to avoid folding completely so it was a pointless endeavor. In contrast, your riichi didn't have a purpose. Why are you pointing a finger at him? Accept the criticism and move on instead of trying to make others look bad comparatively to elevate your image.

>>15031427
>>15031917

Oh... that's too bad.

>>15031924
>Why are you pointing a finger at him? Accept the criticism and move on instead of trying to make others look bad comparatively to elevate your image.

Because you seemed to feel the need to point the finger at me? I don't know why you would ignore one bad move just to single out another unless you held some autistic grudge and felt like insulting the person in question.

>>15031742
>What's a yakuman hand is just not based on probability alone

Specificity and Restriction.

If you look at yakuman hands, they have to be specifically this - or that. After that, you count the different tile types needed to build them. If there is one thing you'll notice, the count is very restrictive.

Of course, to counter what I just wrote here. There's Suuankou, which is very specific. But it's not too restrictive.

>>15031981
I don't know you. Read before getting emotional and throwing a fit. I never said his move was smart by any means, but yours was worse considering you were against the guy in tenpai for daisangen and the dealer. You didn't have a reason to call riichi when you could've stayed dama. That's all I said.

>>15031981
Yes, because people care about you enough to have a grudge against you. It's all about you, Universe!

Get a room, you two.

>>15032145
room 7447 is always free and doesn't need any reservation...

>>15032234
That's lewd.

Personally, it's my policy to always declare riichi in 7447 as a kind of handicap.

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>>15032393

>>15031981
Perhaps because mahjong is about not making the wrong moves more than it is about making good moves.

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Remember to smile.

>>15031903
In addition to either gold or the blue ranked lobby tickets, there's a button in the Tourney mode that says エントリーはこちら where you have to spend those tickets before you can even pay with gold or the blue tickets.

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>>15032816

>>15032835
>Chip

>5 ura dora

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>>15032835
>Chip

2:4.

>>15032846
>>15032841
Jansous use poker chips to track shuugi. Tip is the dumb translation

>>15032835
>chip
Are you sure YOU know how to play mahjong?

>>15032843
I got straight fucked by that after holding his more expensive win. And I still wasn't the one to bust out.

I feel like I could've done something in the south round if the game continued, too.

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>>15032879
>>15032846
>>15032841
Look at the bottom of this scoresheet, D

>>15032920
>-6,810 yen

Wow, I feel bad for that guy.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040611gm-0089-0000-6c1a4aba&tw=2
>not believing in Gyakuten
also I'm now 6+1+1+0 = 8戦

>>15032879
>not knowing how chips are used in mahjong

Actually, I don't either, nor did I ever really bother to learn. But for gambling chips are used as an additional betting mechanism. Win a hand, get 1 chip. Win yakuman, get 5. And so on. Those chips translate to additional money won.

That's as far as I know.

>>15033192
http://osamuko.com/jansou-mode-beta/
Especially shuugi part. Tenhou has shuugi on ippatsu/aka & ura dora/yakuman. Some parlors have different shuugi, like kan call, for example.

http://osamuko.com/overview-of-mahjong-parlors-and-why-you-cant-really-win/
Not to mistake 'chip' with 'rate'.

SGT HARTMAN: Private Pyle. Why did you drop that tile right there?

PRIVATE PYLE: Sir, I don't know, sir!

SGT HARTMAN: If it weren't for dumbasses like you, there wouldn't be so many rons in this game, would there?

PRIVATE PYLE: Sir, yes, sir!

>discarded 3 dora tiles at the start.
damn my bad habit.

>>15033712
I always get really frustrated when I get a lone dora terminal or otakaze or something dealt to me in a garbage hand. Like holding onto it would really slow down an already bad hand but dropping dora in the first few turns might make me look silly.

>>15033712
Sgt Hartman would punch you in the face 3-times. Then he'll ask: "How many was that?"

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>>15033712
I was hoping that you'd discard the 4th.

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>that guy who kans during dealer riichi

>>15033749
>that guy who kans then waits his full allocated time before discarding

>>15033755
>that guy who waits his full allocated time to ron

>>15033777
>that bastard who waits full allocated time when you discard dora during riichi without doing anything

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>>15033777
If it happens once, maybe it was an accident. When it happens every time, it's infuriating.

>>15033781
>that guy who kans the tile you're waiting on

Headed back to my main after fucking around with alts for a few weeks.

Climbing back to 800/1600 ugh.

>>15033807
>that nigger who pushes honitsu all the fucking time

>>15033807
>that guy who pons the tile you were going to chii to tenpai

https://twitter.com/ai_mahjong/status/717622908596666368
>15-21-21-15,6段,1155/2400
50+ games later and that bot is still struggling to get out from tokujou hell.

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>tfw riding the wave

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>>15033963
I'll never understand how bots prioritizes certain things.

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>>15034116

>>15034116
>>15034122
Obviously keeping the hatsu pair would be best, but I suppose if it's in "full betaori" mode or something it was going to discard all of them at some point anyway

>>15034125
But there was nothing to say the hatsu was safe, while the nan was guaranteed to be safe. Nan should have been discarded first 100% of the times.

>>15034142
Ah yeah you're right, genbutsu. Then the 1man, 8pin. Tanki hatsu was unlikely though, especially early.

>>15033842
B-but honitsu is one of my favorite hands, what's wrong with going for it when I see a good chance of it happening?

>that feel when you have a decisive victory when playing vs known mahjong monsters

I love this game

>>15035527
Did you beat ASAPIN?

>>15035527
Monsters have been defeated by humans since olden days.

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Quick! We need to train to defeat super aryan Hitler in a game of mahjong!

>>15035945
And by that, I mean I'm waiting in 7447.

1:0

2:0

3:0

Bump limit has been reached apparently, so we have to create a new thread.

>>15036127
Don't worry about making a new thread until this thread dies.

>>15033842
Eat shit and stop dealing into obvious hands.

>>15034655
There's nothing wrong, especially if you have other Han in your hand or you need a quick win. A plain honitsu is pretty terrible though.

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040615gm-0009-0000-6604ca9e&tw=2

>>15036277
Wow, I share your pain. *pat* *pat*

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Hellclimb to first. Toimen fucked up big time in the end.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016040704gm-0089-0000-5f86c5f0&tw=3&ts=8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weu2895OcZE

Is she a mahjong lesbian?

>>15034655
>good chance
No, there are fuckers who push for it with shit chances.