ALTERNATIVE IDOLS #5 PARTY PEOPLE EDITION

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I'm Hina-chan, and I approve this message.

>>14936973
>Maison book girl / lost AGE / MV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjikk6IP2F4

Summer Continue EP out on the 30th.

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>>14936973
You accidentaly the link in the last thread, but I'm sure people can find their way here regardless

らららーめん, らーめん！

>>14937775
koto is cute... CUTE!

Does any one of you guys know where I can find a good version of Brats - Misery ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5jkUyNgkq8

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>>14939135
You're cute too, anon.

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Hai!

Bucho from Death Rabbits just tweeted Deep Girl's MV and that he loves, also that they're going to be performing at the same concert on Monday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC4r6boCEOo

>>14936973
Thank you for this thread, kind op !

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>>14939772
i want to give Koto a hug and a pat on the head!

>>14940820
TaaTaa a qt! How old?

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Has everyone installed the Cheerz app and cheered for Rio today?

https://cheerz.cz/idol/850

If you do this small thing you'll make a cute girl very happy. Please continue to support her!

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Some top QTs here, but needs more eyebrows

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>>14948205
>why?
They're a one dimensional group, the antics of Ladybeard gave them a little bit of success but he also is gonna be responsible for their downfall.

Ladybeard is a mediocre growler and we practically have seen everything he has to offer in the past 2 songs, as i said before, he is an entertaining character but a man dressed as a little girl doing kawaii stuff is fun but only for so long, i have nothing to complain about Rei/Rie they're cute and as idol singers they're alright but they're nothing special.

The point is that the mementum (i know is misspelled, it's to express meme factor + momentum) gained with Nippon Manju is wearing thin and they don't have anything else to show, the talent is just not there.

東京ロケッツ http://rockets.tokyo/

東京ロケッツ「瞬間少女崩壊」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94hFD26TMU

Who's the most popular yurumerumo?

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>>14949505
>>14948205

and they're also, what, a year old? They might have decent youtube numbers but they have also no fanbase in Japan, they barely play any domestic shows.

On the other hand, Death Rabbits have fractions of youtube videos of what Ladybaby has, and fraction of fractions of what Babymetal has, but they're been an idol group for years now and have fans all over the country and have been touring regularly & growing.


Also Ladybaby is trying very much to me the wacky Japan Babymetal-imitator (which I like)), while Death Rabbits is going its own thing.


I personally really enjoy Ladybaby and I do hope that they keep at it. The idol business is a marathon, not a sprint.

>>14950016
>The idol business is a marathon, not a sprint.

Is that really true though? AKB and Momoclo got big relatively fast, Negicco has been around for ages and they're not really all that big. When it comes to hitting the big time things have to move fast, otherwise you'll become this forever niche act like hy4_4yh.

>>14949505
>>14950016
>>14950244
Speaking of wich, how underbeasty doing? I just came across their youtube channel but their videos don´t have many reproductions.

>>14950244
AKB was already backed by big money from the very beginning, and with Momoiro clover yeah they did become popular overnight because they were doing 100+ shows during summer breaks and sleeping in minivans while touring.

Look at Babymetal, nearly 4 years of being in the shadow of Sakura Gakuin as a subunit, a few extremely modest solo concerts around Tokyo and SEA, but over the years with more metal-sounding music and getting a full live band they did make it.


I guess ultimately it's all about appeal and relative uniqueness. Whether Ladybaby has that is still a question mark.

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Bretty gud. Heavy dance music. A good middle ground between their last two songs.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ugxh4_new-deathrabbits-song-usagi-stream-2_music

I'm looking forward to the studio version, they've also been filming a new MV I guess for this song

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so apparently you can just go and hang out with the girls from death rabbits if you're a foreigner. babymetal officially dropped.

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>>14951757
ayyy senpai

>>14951725

the best place for pics is twitaa and searching their full names in Japanese, and also Desulavitsu in Japanese.

Here's some 望月愛実


and yeah their "official fan club" at least with gaijins is literally just two people, the same people who did the Ladybaby fan club.

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>>14951792
>googling emi's japanese name yields like 10 pictures
>googling deathrabbits yields more pictures of babymetal and rabbits than deathrabbits

if you've already got twitter on lockdown, i'll try some other other sites. also thanks for the tip to search for deathrabbits by using katakana

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>>14951822
Oh, google is awful actually. and searching in roman letters usually just brings you back to the warosu archive of these threads lol

https://twitter.com/search?f=images&vertical=default&q=%E6%9C%9B%E6%9C%88%E6%84%9B%E5%AE%9F&src=typd

https://twitter.com/search?f=images&vertical=default&q=%E3%83%87%E3%82%B9%E3%83%A9%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%84&src=typd

maybe 2ch is good, but really twitaa is the best, and I've only started to skim the surface

>>14950244
relatively fast? both acts are almost 10 years old

>>14951942
Yes, but it isn´t like the just became famous now, actually, I think AKB has been on decline.

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>>14936979
seconded

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>>14951871
google is excellent for reverse searching a rare picture. if the picture is new then it brings you to sites that are good at aggregating new stuff, and if it's old then you find pretty obscure collections.

also google was decent for finding hi-res babymetal/ayaka/ayami. they're all pretty famous and all the hi-res were professionally done though so i guess that's different

>>14951942
Yeah but it didn't take them all that time to become popular.

It more or less took them like 4 years to become really mainstream and popular (having gold-certified singles/albums, selling out arenas).

I guess it's not THAT fast, and Ladybaby has only been around for a year. When those groups were a year old they were mostly performing at half-empty shopping malls.

>>14951948
They're fine, sales has been pretty much the same and they're big in Asia, they even have a group in China.

>>14950016
>The idol business is a marathon, not a sprint.
A marathon that Ladybeard can't run, the guy is in his early 30, does he pretend to do the same 5 years in the future?

>>14951942
Momoclo started in 2008 and had their first Saitama Super Arena show in 2011.
AKB started in 2005 and had their first Kohaku gig in 2006.

So yeah, both got big relatively fast, especially compared to the Negicco example given in that post.

>>14951962
Damn I was hoping that this was going to be a picture of the show with Koba(?) in the front of the crowd

>>14937391
Maison Book Girl suffers from the same problem as modern Jazz.
It's too interesting to be good.

>>14951948
They've been up to some shenanigans trying to ride the nostalgia train lately, but everything should calm down once Takamina's gone.

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>>14950883
I know Yumu of Underbeasty mentioned they shot their second PV recently, and she thinks it is going to turn out a lot better and more professionally done than their first video!

>>14951975
>the guy is in his early 30, does he pretend to do the same 5 years in the future?

I don't see why not. Bucho from Death Rabbits is 38 years old and up front on stage with little girls less than half his age, screaming and dancing around while wearing full-body paintball armor and a ridiculous mask.

Beard's other career paths were stuntman and pro wrestler, he has a major foot in the door of the Japanese idol and tarento industry. Worse comes to worse he can always end up being a TV or radio host.


Or male host that caters to a very niche and specific fetish for women.

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>>14952184
Forgot my pic. Silly me.

>>14949964
Definitly Ano.
And totally confirmed by my impression from their live in Japan.
(But I'm still a Chiffon fan)

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>>14951757
>>14949964
To complete my post, I may also add that Mone seems to be pretty popular among girls.
But well, the more live/event of ゆるめるモ！ I do, the more I become fan of the group. The girl are cute, fucking adorable when you talk to them, and the ambiance during the live is pretty cool. Also carrying Chiffon almost alone when she did crowd surfing on Only You was like a personnal dream coming true =3 .

>>14952244
> Discovering cheki in 2016.

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>>14952508
(Oh well, I king of messed up the links, but I guess the post is still pretty clear ).
To excuse myself, here is an other exclusive pic.

>>14951976
3 years is a lifetime in Idol terms. A year ago nobody but people obsessed with J-15 knew who Rei was
I guess AKB is not a good example since they got a big boost with all the money AKI-P mande with Onyanko Club, but that's another history

>>14952184
Exactly. I dont see Ladybeard going away soon, but for the sake of both his and Rei's career, Ladybaby must not last more than 2 years, tops. Otherwise they will be a cartoon of themselves, trying to score another Manju part 2.
If anything, i dont want Rei doing nudes at 20 desperately trying to be on the spotlight again. Despite all knife jokes, she's got talent.

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Band-Maid concert this week in Seattle, Washington. Who is going?

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>>14952244
>>14949964
It's amazing how big the difference in popularity comparing ano to the rest of the group. From just a glance you can see that Ano's twitter has around 1.5k tweets while the others have 7k-10k+ tweets, but she has more double the amount of followers than the rest combined. Also videos that are focused on her (such as the cm's for concerts) are way higher than the other member's focused vids.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQViQIR7LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SGDieDamek

only started getting into them recently

>>14952101
I don't understand.

>>14954017
I don't know if it's the "standard" organization, but for last saturday live, she was the only one to do her cheki/sign before the concert (instead of after for the other girl).
I guess it was to avoid to have her line literaly flooding the venue at the end of the concert. I guess you also got less time to speak with her during a cheki, as their was only a polaroid for the five other girls.

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How many albums do you think I have to buy until Pikarin can afford shoes? Speaking of which foreign-anon did you ever buy Makai no Owari with the DVD? I'm guessing not so I'll buy it and throw the video up somewhere once I get it.

>>14954271
They're use of odd time signatures and syncopation is interesting, but the music itself isn't particularly memorable or even particularly pleasing to listen to. Kind of like how the behind the scenes of a movie can be really cool or intricate even when the movie itself turns out to be shit.

MBG is a group for hipster fags who don't know the difference between intellectual appreciation and actual personal enjoyment.

>>14954529
pikarin is lewd

>>14954529
Why don't you guys link to the previous threads in the OP?

>>14954774
Didn't mean this as a reply, sorry

>>14952244
I was assuming it was either her or Younapi, mainly because those two are the ones that instantly caught my attention when I discovered the group. Watching their showroom broadcasts made me really appreciate the others, too. Chibo, who seems like the normal one in a group of oddballs first, has some really dorky charisma.

>>14954774
Because we're alternative

>>14954671
I don't give a fuck about intellectual appreciation and I don't make maison book girl out to be anything more than what they are. I just really enjoy their music.

>>14954774
>>14954777
Someone just forgot, it's easy enough to find it I think.

RA-RA-RAMEN
NIPPON!
Ramen!

>>14943842
I finally gave in and installed it today, cheered a few girls on and leveled up a few times. Pretty nice app, but there are way too many cute idols!

Also wish it would support screen rotation as I mainly use a tablet (android). xD

>>14954671
>MBG is a group for hipster fags who don't know the difference between intellectual appreciation and actual personal enjoyment.

Oh boy, here we go.

The only hipster fags i know are on /mu/ . Stop being so pedantic and realize that there are people who dont care to intelectuallize the music and are just to ENJOY the music and its performers

>>14955175
this guy knows

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>>14952508
As a gril I like Younapi. I've spoke to a few other girls who like her too. I guess it's because she has cute fashion as well as energy. I watched some of their lives on YouTube and seeing how happy she looked performing put her up to my #1 (from Ano)
Her collaboration with Rinahamu also helped, since Rinahamu is especially popular with girls in Harajuku at the moment.

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>>14957093
It's more or less the same reasons that made me switch from a slight preference to Ano to the Chiffon fanbase after seeing them live for the first time last summer: the fact that she is constantly smiling during concerts and the energy she deploy. Last but not least she's really a sweet girl when you talk to her, but I guess it's part of the job. But well, I guess I'm now identified by her as one of her gaijin fan, so I'm happy that senpai finally noticed me.

SESHIBON KIBON WA IIKIBUN

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>>14957093
Younapi is my favorite too. She is like a cute alien who got stranded on earth and tried to disguise herself as a human but eventually started to like it here and decided to stay and try to make earth a better place. I like her artwork too. Her and Rinahamu are like the embodiment of ゆめかわいい. Ano is more 病みかわいい. Ano is the folk hero for all the edgy emo teenage girls. Ano reminds people of the girl they knew in high school who was really cute but also a loner because she was just too weird. But yeah, she's the most popular member by far. In fact I'd say Ano is probably the most popular alternative idol in Japan overall.

>>14952101
Too interesting? Their music sounds the exct same as an Izukoneko tune. And the lyrics are shitty.

Retard.

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>>14958059
Younapi is such a cutie, and so is Rinahamu. ゆめかわいい is one of my favourite themes at the moment, I'm loving BPM15Q and Zenbu Kimi no Sei Da (病みかわいい)
Ano is definitely on the more edgy side, her Instagram is quite abstract compared to some other idols I follow.

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Are...are those some emi-burgers?

RAMEN METAL

>>14936973
>>14961880

Who did the best Ramen song, Ladybaby or Death Rabbits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqcXWJ23Qck

^second half of the video is their ramen song

>>14961976
no one cares

>>14962207
you care enough to reply senpai :^)

>>14961976
I don't really like any of the 2 songs, Death Rabbits song has too much bucho for my liking and it seems that the composer of LadyBaby's song had a brain fart in the middle of his work and completely forgot about the good first half, or maybe they just run out of budget and Ladybeard had to finish it. So my vote goes to Death Rabbits their song is at least consistent.

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>>14962627
>too much bucho

yeah it's virtually all Bucho except for Emi(?) going "lalalalalalala" during the bridge. Dude needs to remember that the idol group is about the girls first, and he can do his own thing with his Akiradeath project or whatever else.

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Is she saying sorry because she deleted her tweets and was inactive for a while?

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>>14962944

KAWA
II
RENGE
WA
MIN
NA
O
SUKUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPIy3-To1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUX8KKKbM4

So this is the Non-chan single from the new BILLIE IDLE EP I guess. In reality it's pretty much a last gen BiS song, if the last gen had Mitchel instead of Pour Lui and Megumon.

>>14964021
I was expecting it to be a Nozomi solo song but I'm glad it's not. This song sounds pretty similar to ODD FUTURE at times.

>>14964021
Go back to Facebook faggot

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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/712219352980971520/pu/vid/720x1280/lz14Pgcm2fVJ3Mja.mp4

>>14965698
who is she

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>>14965711
Sari, shironuri girl from Necronomidol.
https://twitter.com/sari_mdr

>>14965758
oh from that shit band ok

>>14965812
>>14965022
Too much salt is bad for your diet :)

>>14965758
Didn't recognize her at all, thanks senpai

>>14965836
Samefagging?
In my thread?

>>14965812
Look, we got another one crossboarder hipster

>>14967461
You're a hipster for liking an intentionally shitty music group m8

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>>14969711
Why do you care so much about other people's music taste senpai?

>>14970002
post more smug alt idols pls

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>>14969711

I'm at Akasaka Blitz and I spot one other gaijin, wearing a panda on his head. I hope y'all ain't THAT autistic.

SHIT SHIT SHIT
REI'S REPLYING TO EVERYONE ON TWITTER.

>>14972532
k

>>14972532
which band? Except this ゆるめるモ show were there was an englishman, I'm usually the only gaijin around

>>14973127
It was this http://idol-legend-carnival.com/archives/381

He had a Kotohime shirt on though.

Short sets, but a pretty good sampling of groups I mostly didn't know.

>>14972532
What's wrong with it?

>>14973127
Um shouldn't you be on GaijinPot or some other fucktard community?

>>14972766
Did we miss anything good besides her now being in her "(@_@)" posting phase?

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Seina from NRNiR has been doing this pose a lot lately. Isn't this too lewd for an idol?

>>14977222
what a semen demon

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Cutest girl in Japan.

There was a 4 year old at the mini Gyu Fes thing today, and the part where Death Rabbits do their introductions and nobody cheers for Buchou this tiny little voice yells out his name.

>>14978658
No one cares

>>14977222
not when you crave semen

>>14978658
Nice.

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>>14978658
ayyy. That's typically the way to spot new people at Death Rabbit shows.

>>14978690
re:>>14962212

>>14977222
Maybe she's too tall for the mirrors.

>>14980977
Maybe a dressing room mirror too short for a teenage girl to use properly?

>>14980977
doesnt make sense that she is worried of panty flash if the picture is taken at level face. She definetively is showing off her hips.
>>14969711
Shut up crossboarder. The fact that you call something "shit" with no other reason that "muh opinion" gives you away as a /mu/ hipster asshole. Go back there to your Taylor Shit threads

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Band Maid sounds great live (except Kanami's guitar sounded kinda off). They're so tiny in real life.

Why weren't you here?

>>14985439
Me in the top right

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>>14985444
I wish it was you. Then you could have posted more.

I'm sad the concert was so short. 6 songs and they're done.

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>>14985444
>>14985439
me

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>>14985481
Mystery beard-kun. I post you in all your cross legged glory.

And this is the last of my pictures. One more day at the con and I haven't had any fancy downtown Seattle breakfasts.

I had a dream that the Death Rabbits did a swimsuit photoshoot....

but it was mostly Bucho

>>14985808
ok

>>14985808
ok

>>14985808
all right

>>14952188

The new BiSH single is cool

>>14987268
I'm still enjoying the feel of confusion that emerged from the public when they presented it at yesterday's live.

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Hello, /bmsg/ here.

Do you guys make a lot of webms here and would like to make some with sound?

I have this idea of making a Joint Idol General Webm thread on /wsg/ where users from all the idol generals can post their webms with larger file sizes and sound and link in their respective threads.

This way we'd be sharing webms of qts in an optimal way and we'd have some association and curiosity across the idol generals.

What do you guys think?

>>14987522

You really want this to happen don't you?

>>14987585
Think of it like this: a centralized place for qts on /wsg/.

>>14987589
fuck off reddit tier faggot

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Niji no Conquistador puts on a pretty godo show, worth a go if you're in Akiba on a day they perform one of their regular shows. I think I spent most of it staring at Nagi.

>>14987522

>>>/wsg/1009094

>>14987673
No one cares

>>14989116
I care, bullyjerk.

>>14987349
The new outfits are cool too.

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>>14952155
The new under beasty video "UB TRY" is now out:

アンダービースティー 「UB TRY」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiVrHL8LHw

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ナトカン『アイドル激的サマ－ダンス』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjaYL1lZZaM

ナトカン『ナントカカントカ』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UaLxLOqYDU

Negicco's new single Mujun, Hajimemashita is out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VQdcvnSZMM

>>14990608
Negicco aren't alternative idols.

>>14990680
Yes they are.

>>14991084
Not really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA6UYTbOEMQ

Goodmorning anon. Don't forget your daily Renge Chance!

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筋肉アイドル才木玲佳

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Himekawa actually showing off her bewb.

>>14992563
Her legs have too much mass but I ain't going to lie, I'm jealous of her physique. Wonder how long it took for her to achieve it.

>>14994057
Her legs are perfect

Her arms are too big

>>14994126
k

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>>14992563
reika best muscle idol
https://live.line.me/r/channels/57/broadcast/2812

>>14994057
>Her legs have too much mass
she's only 150cm, lol

>Wonder how long it took for her to achieve it.
half a year of working out and proteining, check out the line vid above, it's great.

>>14994731
yes, but i want to cum on Pikarin's feet, so

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>>14954529
see >>14994714
pikarin is a twig

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Yuzu's smug face

>>14949505
where is that swimming bool located

can I get a building name, floor level, or latitude/longitude coordinates pls

Has anyone noticed most of SCANDAL's and Shishamo's music gone from youtube?

>>14994875
http://kotaku.com/the-most-infamous-swimming-pool-in-japanese-pornography-1520473085

>>14994756
Lets hope Pikarin never bulks up!

>>14994722
Exactly, her legs have too much mass for her frame. It looks retarded.

>>14994886
No because I don't listen to shitty music

>>14994722
her legs are too massive for just half a year unless she was using a hormone. who is the little one, Pikarin, does she make music?

>>14995785
Yes, I like her lewd yuri MV the most
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvML3ZVUH_M

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>>14995805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrfOfHrOl7c I like this one better for lewdness and yuri, even if she keeps getting cock blocked. Ordered a DVD I'll up the full version of it somewhere when I get it.

Though picture related is my favorite video, I want to live in a VR world with Pikarin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzX1YsWy_1U

Pikarin's shows are pretty fun, she walked on me last week.

>>14997084
I want to be bullied by BiSH members on stage during PiraPiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhoCQ86iO6I

Soooooooo jelly

>>14997084
No one cares about your experience in Japan, faggot

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>>14997509
I want Hug Mii to ride me.

That one girl from Zekkyousuru would probably kick you in the balls if you asked

>>14998888
>I'm not going to open it

Faggot

>>14999356
Montero?

I've been kicked by her, she's mad.

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I want to be screamed at by Ano.

Please post more of that muscle idol and does she make music?

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>>14960290
this is a copyrighted meme, don't use it

>>15001692
shut up bitch

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>>14992563
oh shit, didn't realize she was one of the girls having her wrestling debut for W-1 today.

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Death Rabbits are planning... something

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>>15001557
Well given her popularity it may be a bit tricky to approach when she does her screams but good luck.

Also, does someone plan to go to the gyu no fes on the 10th of april ?

>>15002558
>Also, does someone plan to go to the gyu no fes on the 10th of april ?
i wish i could

Being an overseas alternative idol fan is hard. Why do we do this to ourselves?

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>>15004703
I fear what will happen if or when I had to move back to West. Well let's enjoy it while I can.

>>15004703
Because I have a ton of a fun when I go to Tokyo and I'm not treated as "just another fan" at aftershows due to not being a "regular" and standing out due to my foreign features.

>>15002223
W-wow. I'd wrassle her.

Is the name Saiki Reika? Not quite sure.

>>15004703
>Why do we do this to ourselves?

I do it for Yuzu's smug face

>>15002223
she has such a pretty face!

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>>15005359
>Saiki Reika
yessir

>>15006734
そうだne

>>15004864
Well obviously being a foreigner has it advantages, as you'll be easily "spotted" inside the crowd. You're favorite girl will also easily recall who you are from show to show.

But now that I'm able to do it for a few month, I'm feeling like we are missing something for not being able to attend shows on a semi regular basis.

I hope KISSBEE would make a cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3uDuy-suY

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Which one is Jose?

>>15007596
You only miss out on merch and an occasional new song/cover

>>15010142
By going to Japan on a regular basis ? Well, I think it's also fun to get more or less involved in the fan community even if , given my level of japanese, my involvement will stay limited .


By not going to live at all, I think you end up missinf a fun part of the performance ie the crowd chant, the crowd surfing etc...

>>15010566
No, by not being able to attend shows on a semi-regular basis. Context yo.

The new Maison book girl EP came out. It's exactly like their other stuff, but I like it.

>>15011353
big surprise there

izukonekos music will always be superior

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>>15010115
This one.

>>15010115
the mexican

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New KOTO PV. She'll also be working for one night only at her favourite shop, Nile Perch on the 7th.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq6w6r9IezE&

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>>15013098

>not switching back to the normal layout

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>>15013128
I managed to fix it. Deleted both posts now to avoid spamming up the thread.

>>15013140
>that disgusting jew star

why koto why

So Death Rabbits have been doing a radio show for a on Radio kansai for a while now, you can listen to past episodes here

http://www.weeeef.com/weeeefww1/Transition?command=top&group=G0000049

but warning it uses Flash.

>>15013715
k

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>>15013715
Thanks for this

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>>15013766
no problem

>>15013765
k

>>15013715
>Karin mentions Obama-chan around 22 minutes

wat

I wish my Japanese was better

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>>14993761
Himekawaii's been very proud of her chest lately. As she should be. Those puppies are dreamy for everyone not in the dfc master race camp.

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> https://twitter.com/ylmlm_chiffon/status/716249639842807811
> https://twitter.com/ylmlm_chiffon/status/716250104458391552

Well, it seems that Chiffon wants to pratice english. That's pretty great.

>>15015694
Jesus they ought to just change their official language to English. It's either that or Chinese. They can't last much longer wihout that international help.

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>>15015762
While it's true that the average english level of a japanese is pretty low, they don't really need to be able to speak english.
That's particularly true in the alt-idol scene, where we are all, as foreigners fans, some sort of anomaly. That's also why the fans/idols are generally pretty happy/curious when they see a foreigner almost lost in the middle of an event.

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>>15015836
>That's also why the fans/idols are generally pretty happy/curious when they see a foreigner almost lost in the middle of an event.
I wish my Japanese were competent enough to go experience this.

>>15015836
They do if they want to branch out into the international community for more money.
Which their economy desperately needs.
I am talking about longterm viability here for their music business.

>>15015694

>相手がわたしに伝えたいことは大体理解できるけどそれを返答することができない。

I know that feel with Japanese.

>>15016260

Honestly, I'd blame the Japanese economy more on Japanese business mindsets in general than strictly how insular some of their markets are.

The Japanese resist change. This isn't always a bad thing, as not all change is good, but when shit hits the fan, change is needed in order to adapt. An example of an area that could benefit from embracing change is their use of technology. It's not just a means to plug holes. It's a means to take things that are slow and prone to error (and thus, waste money) and replace them with things that are fast, accurate, and cost-effective. It'll fuck a couple of industries, but it'll make up for it by creating new, more profitable jobs to take their place.

Furthermore, their insistence on employees not going home and working on their social lives is killing the age of their population, which also hurts their economy. If businesses aren't going to do it themselves, then the government needs to force them to do it. If they're concerned about the amount of work that'll get done, then that just means that they need to stop pissing around during business hours. Proper use of technology will also help.

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>>15016260
>>15018054

Well I agree with the comment about the "global" economy, but to stay in the "alt-idol" market. I know that we have all in mind Babymetal as an example of how successfulness an idol group can be oversea, but I've a feeling that trying to discuss how I can be generalized will be a source of endless shitstorm (Are they even using an “idol-type” marketing now? Etc...).

First I think we can all agree that “alt idols” going “mainstream” in the West can end up backfiring. Just imagine what can some media/blogger say about Death Rabbits : “Nazi-symbolism plus little girls showing their tummies to middle aged men etc..” . I mean, it's now even science fiction, I remember this reportage of Vice(if we can call any of the turds they produce reportage), where they establissed an almost direct relation between JK cafe, Schoolgirls prostitution in Japan, and idol bands like MechaHigh. Keeping the “western” opinion away from our private garden is definitly a good idea.

Now, what about us, the “gaijins alt-idol fanbase”? I would be really interessed to know “how much divisions” we represent, for example, how much people a band like BiSH or Passcode could bring if they did a concert to a random AnimeCon in a easily reachable place (like Paris or London for West Europe). Also, how much we may spend to cd if they're easily reachable etc...
I would also be thankful if someone reposted the interview of the last thread that was talking about the “economical” model of a idol bands. It's a question that I'm asking to myself since I'm in Japan. To stay in the ゆるめるモ! example, as I'm starting to go to their show on a really regular basis, how much of the group revenues come from the CD selling and the “big” concert like the one at Zepp Diver City vs the revenues from the small weekly concert that host like a bit more than an hundred person? And what fraction on their revenues comes from the “hardcore” fanbase of ~50 peoples that seems to comes to every shows? What I want to say is that, except if they are located in Japan, Western fan are not really “rentable” in a economic point of view.

Which lead me to my last point, that can be called naive, that is that most of these small band are not here for (only) for the money. Well obviously the idols and the staff (which I estimate to be around of a total of ten persons for a band like ゆるめるモ!) have to live and everyone, including us, are pretty happy when they begin to win a shitload of money for their work. But realistically, if money was the “main” motivation, if being an alt-idol the most efficient way to earn it ? Given the cost involved in money ( renting venues, producing goods) and in time (multiple show per weeks, endless training) I don't think it would be worth the effort if the motivation was “only” financial. That lead us to the motivation of the “glory”, aka having a dedicated fanbase, a potential springboard to pierce in the show-business world , etc... And here comes our “interest” as foreigner fan, showing that there are people, located a thousand kilometers away, and that for most of us I guess don't speak more than a few words of Japanese, that sufficiently love your work to by your CD or even to travel in Japan to see your live shows. And that should be a pretty cool feeling if we think about it.

So know, what can we do it to support these groups, except buying stuff, going to live when possible? I was thinking about the fact that, if there exist a few website/blog (of various quality) that aggregate english news about alt idols group, we may need a sort of wiki that will try to aggregate more concrete informations about the group themselves. For example, song translations/interpretation, useless/fun trivia about the group numbers (XXX like this sort of food and had/have a solo carrier under this name) or even a list of the mix/chants that are used by the fans during the live. I don't know if anyone is interested by this project but that seems to me a pretty a pretty cool way to increase the visibility of the alt idol scene to the western fanbase.

Tldr; To much free time on Sunday morning, just read the last paragraph for concrete stuff.

>>15018848
>a sort of wiki
There are a few already, such as:
http://jpop.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Also, I think trying to attract fans will backfire for the reasons you listed. Let it happen organically.

>>15019753
As I said, I'm not envisioning a grand plan to enlight the western mass to a niche japanese music genre, that is more or less doomed to fail. I was more thinking to centralize information for the international alt-idol community (even I'm pretty unable to estimate how many people it may contains).

For the existing wiki, I was more «planning» something more concentrated one the groups that are regularly mentioned in this thread, with a more «dense» amount of information for every ban. We may start by treating the information available on the japanese version of wikipedia, a task that seems doable by using machine translation. Anon that are able to speak/read japanese may try to translate songs or to dig some «exclusive» trivia on 2ch, that sort of stuff. I'm just trying to assess the feasibility of such a project.

>>15019897
Also, I was also thinking of the interest of "tutorial", like how to reserve a ticket for a live of the groupe Y via their website, how the cheki for the group Z are usually organised, etc...

>>15018848

I am sorry, but if you think that alt-idols are not in it for the money any less than any other music group, you are being incredibly naive and stupid. Look at their fucking schedules.

You are not envisioning anything, you are just talking out of your ass. Adding english to their communications/merch does not equal going mainstream. You honestly sound like a teenager that doesn't even fully understand how the world works, let alone a mainly DIY music scene.

>>15020661
well the anon is musing about doing a service completely free for people who will eventually bank off of it... i think that says enough

>>15020661
Well, re-read my poorly spelled post, I think I never said that money was not an issue I'm just saying that if your goal is to earn an large amount of money being an idol (or doing any artistic related jobs in general) may not be the easiest way to do it. However it's obvious that it is an issue, at least because the performers and their supporting staff have to live (and everybody aim to live pretty comfortably if possible). Hell, just the chekki and stuff highlight pretty well the fact that money play a large role.

Concerning the “english skills” related part, I'm just trying to highlight the fact that , a priori, as foreigner fans we have a pretty low financial potential, especially when (and again, I'm curious to see number that may or not back up this statement) a large part of the financial income of a small band seems to come from the weekly event that are hold to a pretty reduced public. Public that include a pretty large proportion of people that will come to almost each event.

And for the “going mainstream”, I was answering to >>15016260 that, at least for what I understand, seems to consider it as a must do to have this scene survive. It's not a fear or anything.
>>15020667
Well, I was not planning to run any service (and I guess I'm to lazy to do anything), just thinking about a way to centralized some informations we may dig up individually.

Well I guess showing people how to reserve in advance will guarantee you entry and save 500 yen, but in almost every case getting a ticket is as simple as going to the venue just before the show and asking for a 当日券

>>15020758
I don't remember what I did wrong, but I got a trauma because of the number of try I had to do before being able to successfully complete the eplus registration form. I guess that was a manifestation of the autistic part of me.

>>15020758
Yeah, just go up to the front door and ask for a ticket, it's not hard.
Fuck and buying in advance? Go to a conbini and ask for help. Not hard at all. You don't even need to know japanese, just pull up the event page and say "Ticket?"

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>>15020661
>like a teenager that doesn't even fully understand how the world works

Well, that's not as easy as it looks. Unless you live in a pretty small world. With like yourself. And your dick.

>>15020971
K

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>tfw ywn share a beer with Bucho and watch The Walking Dead with him

I just discovered this group called Dream. Anyone know what other songs of theirs are good? I can't get this one out of my head!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iWzAgmSquw

I saw KOTO play on valentines day. I was up front and I was blown away by her energy and everyone in the room going nuts. I nearly exploded during the bridge of おとこのこちゃん

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Shooting Star Girls (流星群少女)

If I understand it correctly, this group does not exist any more. It appears they have formed a new idol unit together with members from Ru:Run, called 全力少女R (FULL POWER GIRLS R).
流星群少女「白夜姫伝説」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBNVRptfsH0

流星群少女「閃光ライダー」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puppAUQNvUY

流星群少女「チャーリーを探せっ」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxl1KI6LY-U

流星群少女「メリリリリリリリクリスマス！」
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpA7WekEol8

>>15024204
>>15024740

Both of these groups suck, get better taste, anon

>>15024515
Koto is great, I saw her on the same bill as Recoride, Ta Ta is really good at getting the crowd energized and everyone loves Koto

>>14978040
what's her name again?

>>15024991

She is Rio Omori, someone posted her earlier, see:
>>14943842
>https://cheerz.cz/idol/850

re-re-renge!
renge?

nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD83_YMcwmA

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voF8Gcr2luU&feature=youtu.be&t=294

Well, I sort of totally missed this TV interview of Ano just doing Ano stuff. Too bad that 95% of the song was cut because of time issue.

https://youtu.be/r-hs9iqBDHM

PV for BiSH - DEADMAN is now avalaible.

is Saiki Reika married?

http://ameblo.jp/saikireika0519/entry-12139787645.html

i am confused

>>15029688
>3776 getting put over for being quality music

neat

>>15029951
>3776
>quality

pick one faggot

>NOT IDOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDfzpU8krW4

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>>15030119
being an angry degenerate isn't healthy for you, anon

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I found something special for the emifriend who sometimes lurks here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg28baImgW4

>It's metal with cute
>It's crappy "alternative" or "trance metal" bullshit instead of more melodic power or classical heavy stuff

>>15031405
?

Did you mean to post that in the Babymetal thread?

>>15029885
nice

Yes Happy!『wonder!』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVtpzyYn7M

Yes Happy!『natural may good』
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21nmu3zr7W0

>>14936973
Im having trouble finding a place to download BiS songs from. A friend recently introduced me to them so Im not sure where to look. Any help? Id just take from youtube but all the songs have random shit edited into them.

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>>15031041
Yuzu is my favorite rabbit, but Emi is really talented.

>>15029885
That was bretty gud desu

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>>15032308
You have a good taste in rabbits senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hs9iqBDHM
BiSH just released the MV for their first single under avex.

>>15032617
no fucking shit you slow ass

>>15032034
lrn2slsk

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that's a snazzy hat you've got there Rei

>>15034546
who are the girls on the far right and far left?

>>15034564
far left is Oomori Seiko, far right beats me right now, I think she's a model and has been in a bunch of Seikos MVs.

>>15034618
thanks, isn't seiko kinda old (for an idol)?

>>15034835
She only plays with idol imagery, she really belongs more in the singer/songwriter genre. Then again, we live in a world where acts like Bed In call themselves idols, so who even knows these days...

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>>15034546

>>15035557
Bed In scare me.

>>15034546
who is the raven haired beauty to the left of the ladybaby?

>>15036009
who is Bed In? Google shows nothing

>>15036027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taCgszL0loI

Wasn't that tough.

>>15036296
ohh okay, that goup. i know the members fom other bands.

>>15036017
Mizuno Shizu

>>15036379
She has a very beautiful face

>>15029688
https://youtu.be/sZ27mTkyBl8?t=374

I think I'll never get bored by "Only You". Definitly one of my favorite song when it is played live.

>>15037582
Now, I love Ano but is she disabled?

>>15038296
every night she meets with the record exec

>>15038320
D...Don't say that kind of thing, anon.
For real though, I love how weird she is but she isn't just weird if you know what I mean.

>>15037582
>>15038296
i wasn't prepared for her autism to be this off the charts! she's giving Nocchi a run for her money!

>>15038296
>>15038350
>>15038428

Her ability to do unexpected random stupid stuff is deifinitly one of her main charm point her reason for her popularity. Like spending one entire song with a giant shrimp plushie around her neck. Or sitting in the middle of the street during St Patrick parade.

However, I'm still in the Chiffon's team

>>15038296
I've been thinking the same. When I first got into the group I just thought her weirdness was a gimmick, but when you watch enough concert footage/interviews/etc. you come to the conclusion that this ain't an act.

>>15040528
It's an act you dumbass. You must be REALLY new to idols.

>Kit Cat is an idol group hailing from Tokyo, Japan. Their music producer is Dr. Usui of Japanese techno-pop revival group Motocompo. Members include Eve Nyan, an extremely old catgirl, Asuka, a girl, and Jose.

So Jose is just... Jose?

>>15040528
its probably an act, maybe not a suit exec telling her to do the act, but probably her just thinking "yeah i think i'll just like a screaming 6 year old for a laugh". if it wasn't an act then she's literally autistic or has some other mental shit.

either way, the autism is cute. i need more footage of her behaving like this, stat

>>15040902
She is Jose

>>15040855
Idols tend to be pretty shit at real acting, so I don't know what your deal is, salty Babymetal-anon.

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If it isn't all an act, Ano should be grateful she was born a cute girl with a cute voice.

>>15041827
If it is an act, she has to be a really intelligent girl. Being that young and knowing exactly what the target audience (lolicon otaku) wants to see is no small feat.

However, I can't help but wonder what it is like to have to pull off a degrading act like that just to succeed as an idol. Is she okay?

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>>15040528
>>15040855
>>15041018
Well she seems more "in control" on her earlier interview (2014 and stuff) than on her recent TV appereance, (but she was of already the shy type.) so yeah, we may obviously call the shout an act, even if for me it's more a gimmick that a tentative to pass for an autistic girl.
(Also, talking about difference between the "character" of an idol and her "real" personality is a potentially endless discussion, especially if she is good at her job.)

>>15041945
I find it more fun than degrading. For the "lolicon", I would not class her as a "loli", espcially given the fact that she's pretty tall for a japanese girl. And well, her fanbase has definitly outgrew the niche of "creepy male wota", especially given of fangirls she has.
Also, if everyone has any idea/reliable source of the age of the ゆるめるモ! ? Their birth year isn't a "public" information.

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>>15042575
Maybe it's like what happened to Sato Masaki from Momusu. They literally told her to not speak and wouldn't give her a mic in group interviews because they knew she'd say something she shouldn't.
Then they realised how much the fans loved her idiot-genius personality, and started letting her speak more.
sage for not alternative

RE: Ano
Obviously she is hamming it up a bit for TV but I think it really is just an exaggeration of her true personality. It is kind of known among fans that there are legit mental health issues going on but I don't think they know what specifically. There was one incident a few years ago where she had some sort of breakdown after a show and ran off alone into the Tokyo night and nobody could find her until morning. She will sometimes take a hiatus from promotions and social media for "health reasons" and come back a week or so later. I think a part of her appeal is that she is a girl that people genuinely worry about, but I also hope she's actually getting whatever help she needs. Mental health treatment in Japan is pretty dismal. She is lucky to be in a group with management that seems very accommodating instead of a company that works idols like slaves.

>>15042575
I once found a blog post that had Chiffon's real name and birthdate but I don't know if I could find it again. I think she is currently 23 or 24. People also figured out that Chibo is 18 or 19 and she's the youngest. As for the rest it's anyone's guess. They are probably older than they look.

Does anyone know if there is a higher res video of this dance anywhere?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx_xql12FrI&t=17m27s

>>15043380
What her real is not さささ？ I feel kind of cheated .

Putting the joke aside, for Ano I guess thats true that it may explain her random absence ( or even the fact that she seems sometime to have some last time impediment for afterlive meet and greet). I like to think that being an idol and being cared about by a shitload of fan helps her (you may call it naivety ) , but it's true that their producer seemsnto be a nice guy and that the girls seems to enjoy being part of the group. The public is also pretty cool you really fell comfy at their events.

( By the way do you happen to have any source for the "runoff incident" ? I'm pretty curious about it now)

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>>15043458
You would have to search old 2ch threads. Not the most trustworthy source but I think multiple people were talking about it.

>>15043458
Yes, that is very naive. The fans aren't friends or a support group, they're just customers.

We need more Bellring in this bitch

>>15043798
no fuck off

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You'll always be missed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUrOdKvvb0&

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>>15044184
Not as much as this one

Kanami will never be that close to me ;_;

https://twitter.com/gas_p/status/718368942234996736

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>>15045048
Just come to Japan and your dreams may become true. Ganbare Anon-kun !

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>>15044184
i was gonna say she's not really an "alt" idol but i suppose with groups like Deepgirl and BiS, there's nothing more "alt idol" than doing what she did and pretty much single handedly revealing the idol industry's a joke full of girls putting on a facade and sacrificing any semblance of a normal life to appeal to creepy weirdos (like us)

>>15045164
explain

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>>15045207
its Yukiko Okada, got popular in '84 and was pretty much the most popular idol of all at the time.

then 2 years later (this day 30 years ago exactly), her manager finds her in her closet (i think she like tried to gas out her room or something too, i can't remember) with her wrists slit. they took her up a few stories somewhere else while they tried to deal with this obviously big situation, but the moment she got an opportunity, she jumped out of a window to her death. they also apparently found letters she had written to some older man who was suspected to be a hidden lover, but apparently this guy didn't even exist, and it was some sort of coping mechanism for her.

then the news of her death sparked "Yukiko syndrome" where for a period, suicides spiked, more than likely as a result of her death since she was so cherished at the time. one girl apparently jumped from the same exact building as Yukiko did because she wanted to be just like her.

i can't think of any major thing to happen like that in the idol industry before this. bad enough that she was suffering but then her obsessive fans go and kill themselves too on top of that. i don't think anything this tragic has happened since either, easily the darkest point in idol history.

real fucking shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV32FjWHr1s

>>15045244
Her manager was probably plugging her

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Also, new Passcode MV, I may repost it in the future new thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRxArJTkfuM&feature=youtu.be

>>15045141
I'm actually trying to go to Aomori Rock Fes this year, if work allows it.

If I remember correctly, the bump limit here is at 300, so let's start a new thread while I got the motivation to do it:

>>>>15045472

>>15045475
This is a slow board you newfaggot, this thread is fine until it drops to the last pages

>>15045244
>"Yukiko syndrome"
Suicide Club

>>15045346
I don't know if this is my favorite song of theirs, but A+ for the actual MV.

>>15045475
310 actually

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One of the top google search results for Ano in Japan is "Ano Wristcut"

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I did some investigating on the Ano runoff incident.
>Halloween 2014
>Live ends
>Ano runs away, without attending any fan events
>Later found in front of Shibuya station, crouched down, crying
>When discovered, runs away again
>Later management tweets she's been found safe

I guess explains why her fan events are before the concert nowadays.

>>15047907
I want to protect that smile.

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Protect Ano!!

>>15048238
Me too, bro. Still, I remain faithful to Chibo.

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>>15048319
>>15048238
Someone delete that other new thread, and rename it "protect Ano edition"

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20160409-00000067-nksports-ent

It seems that the staff is considering legal measures to protect the members private life.

>>15048604
LMAO

https://twitter.com/princesskamone/with_replies

Does Mone just deleted a shitload of tweets ? I hope she is doing well.

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>>15048823
She also doesn't seem to be in Taiwan with the rest of the group

https://twitter.com/ylmlm_staff/status/718677806431862784

>>15049832
It was announced a few days ago that she would not attend the live because of "family problem" if my memories are correct.

Guys, u will come 2 Tokyo Idol Festival?

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>>15051708
Of course.

I expect to see more foreigners there this year than ever before.

>>15051708
i wish