:))

Tokyo smells bad.

I've heard some people claim Akiba is "dead" and has barely anything otaku-related left. I can't confirm or deny that myself, but it sounds like bullshit.

>>14757983
Probably people mad about what kind of otaku stuff is popular nowadays. I've been to Akiba in august and spent many days exploring the various shops and arcades without seeing everything.

>>14757668
decent pic, what camera did you use?

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:)))

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>>14757983
It's bullshit

Was there last week and it was nothing but Otaku shit everywhere.

>>14757983
It's not dead but it's easier to find stuff you need outside of akiba.

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I went to Japan over the summer for a few weeks. I really miss it and I want to go back and these pictures are only making it worse.

>>14757983
Otaku stuff is still there but it feels that the spirit is dead. It's just all commercialized shit and shitty maid cafes nowadays.

>>14761160
Unfortunate.

I'm living in Japan for a year now and I can tell I'll miss it when I go back.

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Walking down a japanese street thanks of Guguru sensei

>want to go to japan
>cant even read japanese
>cant even nip
why live

>>14761936
try harder

>>14761936
Learning Japanese isn't hard. It's so easy even a NEET who browses the jay all day could do it.

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>>14761912
i am triggered

>>14761655
>I'm living in Japan for a year now and I can tell I'll miss it when I go back.

I bet you aren't into hardworking routine there. And Japan is still not treating foreigners the same as locals no matter what people say.

>>14762222
What do people say?

For me noone ever treated me badly. Obviously they don't treat me as a local. Chances you don't do either with foreigners in your contry. It would be foolish to expect it.

>>14761655
Feel the same. Living 5 months now in Tokyo and 7 more to go. Then I'll have to expect the reverse culture shock. Also finish university and counting days til I'll come back and probably completely move here.

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>>14762222
I love whenever anyone says that they're having a great time in Japan, someone else ALWAYS has to come along and tell how much they would actually hate it if their situation was different.

>>14765660
Tourists only see a facade of Japan. Same as tourists who live there for a few months.

>>14761655
>>14762398
>>14764125
What's good about Japan?

>>14761969

It's apparently rather popular there.

>>14761227
I can confirm this.

>>14765676
Great.

>>14765676

That goes for everybody. I mean nobody wants to try working 80 hour work weeks (plus mandatory drinks with the managers) on their vacation to get the full authentic Japanese experience.

>>14761936

I was in Tokyo three ago, I can only say some japanese words and I can't read. But I did it pretty fine despite that.

By the way when I first came to Akihabara, I was expected it too be 10/10, but it was pretty much 8/10. But still it is more interesting than Stockholm.

>>14761936
You don't need to speak/read Japanese to visit Japan. You just need to keep your wits about you. That may be too much to ask of /jp/, though.

>>14765941
Why did it come up short? What were you expecting?

>>14766011
He must have expected to get double meido fellatio as soon as he walked in for being a gaijin.

>>14766011

I was expecting something more like Otaku's own version of Disney land.

>>14766023

I'm half asian and I'm quit unsure if they either know that I'm gaijin or not.

About double meido fellatio... I will put it on my Do List...

>>14757668
>Shoujo-tachi
WHERE ARE THE SUBS WATASHI YOU BASTARD
I need my memes goddamit

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>>14757983
Phrases like this are generally bullshit. People are super quick to be contrarian about Japan.
>Japan is actually one of the worst places in the world to live
>Japan's culture is pretty much dead
>All of my friends who have been to Japan said it was horrible and racist

It's just people who want to be contrarian because they can't stand other people enjoying things. I've lived in Japan for 8 years now, and I can't imagine living anywhere else because it's so nice here.

>>14765728
I can experience my hobies up close.

>>14766671
>All of my friends who have been to Japan said it was horrible and racist

I can't help but feel like people who say things like that or "the Japanese are some of the most xenophobic people on earth" lack perspective. I mean, last I checked they don't immediately label foreigners as enemy combatants like some countries.

>>14766699
Like I said, it's just people who hear something then want to believe the exact opposite because what they heard sounds too happy and 'unrealistic'. Anybody who enjoys Japan even a little bit is living some sort of 'otaku fantasy'.

Every country has racism and disdain for outsiders. Every country. However, Japan is somehow the worst of all just because yeah it is.

>>14766699
Probably americans, always so obnoxious and loud with no self restraint.

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>>14767285
>Probably americans, always so obnoxious and loud with no self restraint.

Spend one night sitting in front of a train station somewhere in Tokyo/Osaka and see how loud and completely lacking of self-restraint the Japanese are. Also observe all the projectile puke and peeing in public.

Back to the topic of Akiba, it's still super otaku, just not as glorious as it was 10-15 yrs ago.

>>14757983
Akiba still has loads of otaku shit, but it's definitely not what it used to be. It's also really exportable stuff; things that /jp/ would look for they'd find in any part of Japan.

Why isnt Akiba as "great" as it used to be?

>>14767496
Probably because people used to go there for nerd shit like computer parts and video games and cameras and now it's all about anime and tourists going "anime banzai" or some such "muh secret club" reason.

>>14766699
I think it's more to do with sheltered Americans/Europeans running into the general xenophobia of the non-western world for the first time. Japan isn't that much more racist than Korea or China or Taiwan, or any other Asian country for that matter.

For me Akihabara was a little disappointing as well, but still really nice. I just expected all the arcades to be full of people playing games all day, every day, where I would be able to visit any of them and find a match in just about any anime fighting game, but it's not at all like that in reality.

Although things heat up after work hours, before that every single one is a ghost town. That said, they are still a ton of fun when they are poppin'. My favourite was far from Akiba though, Game A-cho in central Kyoto is a really cool experience if you are into melty blood, there were people playing every night there and they were all really cool/friendly guys, it definitely felt a lot different than the atmosphere in the one club sega where they play melty blood in Akiba (Not to mention the machines were a lot better kept in a-cho).

>>14767285

There is a definitive difference between an american tourist and just a regular american. Tourists are the worst, they are what the phrase "ugly american" came from due to their behavior in Batista's Cuba. But the other American workers I knew when I was in Saudi Arabia were very nice people that had assimilated into the culture (but not the heat) quite easily.

>>14767746
>I just expected all the arcades to be full of people playing games all day, every day
You expected people to not have lives, school, and work? I feel like people who are 'disappointed' with Japan usually feel that way because they have unrealistic expectations like this.

Of course they're a ghost town if you go there when most people are supposed to be doing other things. That's how life works, Anon.

>>14767496
I've only seen the current Akiba, but from talking with friends who have lived in Japan for a long time and saw Akiba in its heyday, it seems this is how it breaks down:

"Old Akiba":
50% latest technology/gadgets
20% video games
20% anime/manga
10% porn

"Current Akiba":
70% porn
15% moe related goods (including figures)
10% tech
5% games, misc.

That's my take on Akiba, anyways. It's a big town, so there is a decent amount of everything, but it has essentially become a hub for porn/porn goods. Akiba is still called the "Electric Town", but it certainly doesn't live up to that name anymore. Still cool to visit though.

>>14768765
Seems that way. Haven't been there in over 15 years as a kid but I vaguely remember a lot electronics rather than the otaku wonderland I was told later by the internet.

>>14766671
>>14766699
>>14767740
It's just like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

People hype themselves up too much and then get blown out when reality doesn't match their dreams.

>>14766699
>He doesn't know how they view Koreans, Chinese and Filipinos

Surprise.

>>14761227
Thirded.

>>14765733
It is. I briefly talked to a Japanese girl (online) and she mentioned her school club has viewings of it.
I've never seen it myself, but it certainly has a following. Apparently the fight scenes are really intriguing to the Japanese- it's just different enough to be novel or something like that.

>>14769326

Pretty sure what I said still applies, unless those people get stoned to death for the crime of being foreign.

>>14757668
>Just Cause 3

Kusoge.

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>>14764359
Nicely done Google

>>14766699
>All of my friends who have been to Japan said it was horrible and racist

This shit comes from american tourists who are shocked that people don't want to suck their cocks left and right like in some Egyptian resort.

>>14770935
Nah, it's from people who have lived in Japan for a long time and
had to put up with discrimination and stupidity day-after-day.
It's from people who know what Japan is really like. It's from people
who can actually speak Japanese and can understand what Japanese
are saying about them.
Any tourist would think Japan is absolutely heaven. Japan does an excellent
job of putting up a front for a few weeks.

Do you guys really want to buy electronics that badly?

It's not 1990 anymore.

>>14775760
I guess all the people who've lived in Japan for years and don't have those problems are just lying then.

>Any tourist would think Japan is absolutely heaven. Japan does an excellent
job of putting up a front for a few weeks.
Yes, they all get together and decide to "put up a front" until the tourists leave. That must be how it works.

>>14776570
Don't tell me how to count time

>>14776652
>I guess all the people who've lived in Japan for years and don't have those problems are just lying then.

People who say "they have no problems" are liars regardless of whether they live in Japan or not. You deal with problems with living in any country, and living in Japan has it's own problems for foreigners. Look, I'm not trying to just bash Japan. I've lived in the country for years, and I respect it. However, I'm not going to sit here and delude myself and everyone else by saying "Japan is
heaven with no problems!". It has problems, and any person without warped
notions can understand that.

>>14766671
did you move with a job already or did you search for one once you were there?

I desperately want to move and Japan seems like a pretty nice option (if not my only option)

>>14776652
>Yes, they all get together and decide to "put up a front" until the tourists leave. That must be how it works.
Actually, yeah. You're not far off the mark.

>>14776731
How many years you lived in Japan? English teacher? Wanted to do the same.

>>14776731
I don't think the argument here was whether or not Japan is perfect, but the idea that it's an enjoyable place to be, which some people here are vehemently insisting it 100% sucks.

>>14761227
> It's just all commercialized shit
That's modern Otaku stuff in a nutshell.

>>14775760

If it was that big of a problem, they wouldn't stay for years and years.

>>14757668
I want to live in Japan someday but there are some requisites to stay permanently?

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>>14780497

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/index.html

basically you'll need to marry a gook that will drain all your money

but don't worry, you'll be stabbed to death by her family and your body will be well preserved in their basement freezer, for science of course

>>14757983
When I went in November it seemed fairly lively. I liked going to Nakano Broadway more though.

>>14776570
I just want to tour a country where I'm 1 foot taller than everybody

>>14788859

What if he stays illegally, living in the shadoes?

>>14757983
Akiba-oldfags probably claim that Akiba is dead.

>>14790223
Ah so its like 4chan

>>14788859
My wife doesn't even know how much money I have.

>>14790160
That feelio when you the same height as Asians

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>>14757668
I was in Aki last week and I really liked it. The better moments were outside of it and wandering through small Japanese towns. The small streets are fucking SWEET AND COMFY! Perhaps I should learn the language and go there more often?

>>14792031
That photo looks just like the small Tokyo town I'm living in. Quiet but convenient for enjoying city. So much comfier than my old place in Nihonbashi.

I'd build a house here but I'm worried I'd get bored. There's hardly a tree in sight which is a downside.

>>14792130
>I'd build a house here but I'm worried I'd get bored.

I could understand that. I would move into the city but it's really damn expensive.

I miss the week I spent Japan. I don't want to say it's superior to my own home country but it was really nice to see trains running on time and everything having a high level of efficiency. However, I don't want to stretch and say it's the "greatest country ever" because I don't know that.

>>14792159
>I would move city but it's really damn expensive.

*if I lived in Japan

>>14792130
>small Tokyo town
Do you mean it's close to Tokyo, but not in the main city?

>>14792159
I just wish there were nicer looking places to live near the city. I'm not really sure I want to live out the rest of my days somewhere full of grey concrete and power lines.

If only Japan had its own Silicon Valley...

>it was really nice to see trains running on time

My local line runs late quite frequently. Always a different excuse...

>>14792241
I'm within the 23 wards of Tokyo, but just a quiet residential area.

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>>14792278
>power lines

seriously, how many people per year are electrocuted while walking on the street and die?

>>14793261

Barely any, I would guess.

>>14761934
Broccoli Gamers nyo!

>>14788859

Can I be stabbed to near-death and then frozen until the cure for repeated stabbings is found?

>>14788859
>basically you'll need to marry a gook that will drain all your money
How will marrying a Korean help me stay in Japan?

>>14793261
Almost none? Power lines aren't dangerous, assuming you're not climbing up there and playing with them.

>>14793261
power pole and lines are sexy

>>14792278
Why the fuck would you like Silicon Valley? That place is a shithole.

>>14795980

implying there is a difference between Chinks and Nogs when money is on the table

>>14776731
It still has way less problems for tourists than many other places really.

When I compare countries I lived in (for several years) or I visited a lot (3+ months), Japan is at the bottom of the list when it comes to "problems".

Security/safety issues? Non existent. Chances to get ripped off? Almost non existent. Transportation? On time, clean and fairly cheap compared to some other developed countries when you consider the level of service you get. Food? Cheap. Accommodation? Cheaper than London or Paris. Post office/deliveries? On time unlike fucking Royal Mail losing 1 out of 10 parcels or French Post which is even worse. Toilets everywhere that are free and rather clean. Coin locker everywhere so I can buy shit without having to worry storing it.

Daily life as a tourist/temp visitor is extremely convenient compared to others countries.

Compare a city like Tokyo with Paris:

Train are fucking disgusting and often delayed on top of being expensive.
Lot of security/safety issues when you go to certain areas.
Tourists constantly get ripped off (especially Japanese ones).
You're hungry and it's 2.30am? Too bad no 24/7 shops, wait until tomorrow morning.
Service you get in hotels/restaurant is fucking garbage for the price you pay.
Free toilets? Haha goodl uck. Even finding paid one is challenging.

And London is barely any better.

So maybe Japan has some problems, but as a tourist it's literally Disneyland in the open world. And that's when comparing it to developed countries capital cities.

>>14793261
Who wants a body massage?

>>14796057
>Chances to get ripped off? Almost non existent.

Try going to a hostess club

>>14796005
I always imagine Silicon Valley being a place where you can buy a big house surrounded by lots of green space. Am I incorrect?

>>14790384

yeah, some women just wait for the inheritance to avoid being suspected of anything

good for you, indeed

>>14796346
Maybe if you had $3 million. Everyone else is shacked up into tiny apartments and paying $3000 a month for rent.

>>14796379
How tiny we talking? My apartment now is about $1200/month for 70 square meters.

Most of the houses around here don't even have gardens. I feel conflicted because my parents' house had two gardens, like I'd be taking a step back if I lived here permanently.

If it'd cost $3mil for a decent house in Silicon Valley it does sound better just buying a biggish plot of land and making a nice house for $1.5mil or so here....

>>14796539
$2000 for a 40 m2 studio
$3000 for a 70 m2 2 br

>>14796927
Jeez, so 2x+ more than here. Everyone should just move to Tokyo.

>>14796927
Wait, is that for the city center? I'm talking like 30-40 mins from work.

>>14797115
This is in Silicon Valley, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, etc. SF is more expensive, San Jose a bit cheaper. But who the fuck would drive 40 minutes one way to work every day? That sounds like torture.

>>14797144
I take the train for 40 mins a day, it's not so bad since I get to read a book but on the other hand it's too crowded and I have to stand the whole time

maybe it'd be less crowded if I had a job that started a bit later in the morning

>>14765937
Mandatory drinks with my managers sounds like a great time actually, so far as my personal experience has gone across my dozen jobs. To be honest, I find salaryman culture to be appealing; it's basically just hardcore western office culture with booze.

>>14761227
What makes a maid cafe shitty?

>>14800573
What a great time to feel obliged to go at the bar drink with people you don't give a shit when you just want to relax at home watching anime and playing games after a 12hour work day!

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is this kind of stuff still happening?

>>14800753
Didn't happen to me during the 5-6days I spent in Akiba. Now I get why people say it's inferior to what it was a few years ago.

>>14800718
Being somebody who thrives on stress (I regularly pulled 16 hour workdays for weeks at a time in a very, very busy fine dining restaurant) that actually does sound like a good time. Maybe I'm masochistic. Maybe you don't have a spine. Probably some combination thereof.

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>>14800753
JFC that guy with the toddler on his shoulders

>>14776893
As someone who lives in an English-speaking part of the world with a tourism-based economy, there is great pressure to not fuck up in front of the tourists.

We know where our meals come from.

There was a thread a while back, in it someone posted a link to some 2ch thread where a guy visited a JR station that was basically in the middle of nowhere and had a creepy Buddhist cave shrine nearby. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Since the big warosu is ding done dead I can't find it.

>>14801318
Lots of railfans in >>14571955 who might be able to help you out.

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>>14801318
https://sukikatte.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/koboro/

I found it in my internet history

>>14805902
Looks great. I'm planning to travel to remote parts of Hokkaido, so I might as well go see this.

>>14806043

Will you do a blog like this as well?

We would be very interested to read about your travels.

>>14766671
Can confirm. Went to Japan for two weeks. Never denied entrance to a restaurant, nor shouted against.

Am neither Yamato nor Aryan.

Only saw those black vans a grand total of once.

>>14800573
I tried salaryman culture for a year surrounded by just Japanese guys

I never want to go back to that

>>14806553
Nah. I'll just take some photos and send them to my mother through Facebook.

>>14806683
>I tried salaryman culture for a year surrounded by just Japanese guys
What do you mean?

>>14806683
>>14807723
Yeah... He can't just spring that on us and walk away.

Tell us your stories, anon.

>>14806675
>Only saw those black vans a grand total of once
Those are a thing? I was in japan for a whole month and only saw one during my final week in tokyo.

>>14796057
>Toilets everywhere that are free and rather clean.
How clean?

In my city's main library, the public toilets get figuratively and literally shitted up hours after they've been cleaned. People throw their trash on the floor, piss on the floor, throw paper towels in the urinal and sinks, smear shit in unlikely places, and leave alcohol bottles on the floor. It's not uncommon to have to summon security to take away some hobo or schizo who's taken up permanent residency in one of the stalls. The junkies seem to have left though, or have become more discreet. At least we've not found any needles in a while.

>>14805902
Thanks anon.

>（　＾ω＾）「Hahaha, I’m such a systematic and careful person!
>LIFE SUCKS!
I feel a strong bond with this man.

>>14810780
>（　＾ω＾）「And with healthy suntanned high school girls around.
Yeah, I think I could really get along with this guy.

>>14757983
From what I understand they're not talking about Akiba literally being dead and devoid of otaku things, they're talking about the spirit of it and how it's now a glorified tourist trap instead of a place people went to share their interests

The way they make it sound is that back in the day you'd go there just to go and see things and have fun, now the only reason to go is if you're a tourist or you're looking for something you couldn't otherwise buy online without leaving your house

>>14808928
I don't really like alcohol especially beer so I couldn't really bond with them over that.
I couldn't bear the way senior male employees talk to junior employees (often in their late 20s) as if they were children that need guiding.
Generally old fashioned/uptight workplace rules where no one else tries to go against the grain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95GlwrqE44U
akiba 4kHD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpLz-JEJrUQ
shinjuku 4kHD

>>14811909
Meh. The way you had described it, you made it seem like it went beyond mild personal taste.

I worked at a small 20-ish man start up company of all Japanese people. It wasn't bad actually. Depends on where you go and your skill set.

I'm staying wit my grandparents in Tokyo at the moment. About to solo adventure into Akiba today, any places you recommend /jp/?

I was just going to mill about, hitting up game centres, buying a figurine or 2, etc

>>14817453
HEY arcade is a lot better than any of the club segas (unless you are into melty blood, in which case only one of the club segas has it in akiba, and I dont even know how I could describe which one it is there, because theres so many).

Leisureland is also really nice, not the one in Don Quixote though

I personally liked Melonbooks best (right below HEY Arcade in the same building) and Toranoana because it seemed like they had the most manga you could actually preview, Kotobukiya is also really cool for various merchandise

bamp

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>>14766714
Welcome to the sjw culture