Elona

That picture is misleading, it seems you can't get or use holy waters with other gods.

>>14605081
Big Sis Yacatect all day erryday.

Link for RPG Music Compilation Pack in the pastbin is dead does anyone have the files ?

>>14605081
Ehekatl's Mystery Box please

>>14605081
Coconut crab!

should i give my little girl the Ragnarok? or is she gonna invoke monsters and shit

>>14605823
It procs randomly but yes, it may invoke ragnarok. Unless you can stomp dragons with impunity, avoid it, just keep it as a trinket.
It also spawns etherwind and destroys random map tiles.

>>14605844
guess i'll save it for later in the game then. ty

Is the enchantement for the large picnic basket random ? I can't figure out how it works.

>>14605935
It depends on the quality of the foodstuff you use to make it. Blessed and cursed shouldn't change it, unsure about +x from ranch corpses or cooking skill.
The one you get from the maid is fixed (+7 iirc).
In both cases whether it's blessed or cursed is random.

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what should i wish for? i'm a fairy

>>14605988
seven league boots
scroll of attribute (for much later)
i like to get dungeon deed if i have extra wishes early game

>>14605988
I usually get potions of evolution besides what the other anon already mentioned. Or a happy bed if I'm unlucky with drops.

Also, why aren't you playing in higher resolution?

>>14605988
miromi for extra feat
astral light pen for interesting pets or obtaining some items much later in the game
@godname@ if you have rank 1 house and nothing to waste your wish to

>>14606059
speaking of house rank why did i never see anyone talk about the paintings ?

15 of them got my palace rank 1 and if you are in the thief guild you can get dozens of them

>>14606072
Guess no one get their hands on a lot of paintings early in the game. Treasure balls machines and stairs are good for rising ranks, since you can buy them fairly easy.
Also, why thief guild? Fighters' guild have decent sword as guildmaster's quest reward, and mages' guild has scribe. Thieves' just look lackluster.

>>14606072
House level is easy
Staircases and some fancy furniture is more than enough

>>14606035
idk. my game looks just fine.
i got the league boots

>>14606116
did it for the skills, changed afterwards

>>14606072
If you really need quick points, buy a casino machines, turn it raw to easily transport it and then turn it diamond.

>>14606157
you can play it at 1366x768
and if you run elona+ custom you can go up to 1920x1080

>>14606210
>if you run elona+ custom you can go up to 1920x1080
Can you? It allows me to set whatever width I want, but height is limited to 864.

>>14606035
The number of positive mutations available is finite, and it's an easy cap to hit if you've been upgrading your magic vendors.

>>14606210
is it in one of the most recent versions ?

i play in 1.50 with custom and i can get the 1920 w but not 1080 h

>>14606277
>>14606290
>>14606291
Yeah my bad, the height is capped.

>>14605988
a better race

>>14606436
Fairy are only good for being portable onaholes

>>14605081
Hey. I had an epic gene file and save on my old laptop but it got stolen by niggers.

Anyone want to give me an at least semi-decent gene file? Not expecting masses of godly items and thousands of epik potions and scrolls, but just something you yourself used to make a new character. Something with a few Potions of Potential or Scrolls of growth etc. hopefully...
Otherwise, playing a new game in elona+ right now feels soo shit when all my hard-earned shit is gone.

I will appreciate your kindness forever, anon.

>>14606516
reroll. it's the only way

>>14606516
>not having backups

Why you do this anon?

>>14606856
I don't think a backup is going to protect your computer from being stolen.

>>14606876
upload the backup to a cloud or thumb drive. elona saves are worth that much

>>14606876
You don't make backups of something on the same device the original data is on. That's just dumb.

>>14606516
>niggers

How do you know it wasn't a chink instead?

>>14606516
Could always use Elosnack.

>>14605853
I mean it's kinda poo later on, better to use it now or not at all honestly. Or maybe for big bosses only and hope you don't proc it.

>>14606210
>>14606277
>>14606291

I didn't realize custom let you use bigger resolutions holy fuck. ty based anna

>>14606210
But you can set the resolution to whatever you want by editing config.txt

I was doing that before using custom

>>14607469
I never knew... I did play around with it, but I came to the sudden realization that it really doesn't change much because the PC sight radius is still the same. Functionally, the game operates the exact same as before

>>14606619
This is indeed the true to life rogue-like way of doing things...
still, I feel empty...

>>14607265
niggers was just something I made up to cover up the embarrassing story of how I really lost my laptop....
Like, federal agents took it away, is that a better excuse?

>>14606856
>>14607028
I only now realize this foolishness of mine, anon ;_;


>>14607314
Yes... I might.
Still, I'd prefer a purely human made legit file...
I guess I won't be able to have all my old artifact fusioned equipment again... since I don't remember the specifics... but I can help myself to a fair amount of the other items I had previously...

>>14608087
Eh, just edit them via CE.
>...
K-Kumiromi? Is that you?

>>14607345
I'm not sure where all this is coming from, but I haven't done anything regarding the resolution in Custom. It should be the exact same as E+.

>>14608087
You're basically asking some anon to snack up a gene file and hand it over without letting you know.

I will say, though, that it is a little enticing to have you as my child, but I'm not able to invest myself in the fantasy the way some other anons might.

what's the most op class in the game?

>>14608706
Grindgod.

>>14608706
warmage is perhaps the most generically useful if you wear something other than light armor. Otherwise you might also be happy with increased crit chance, increased healing, or decreased mana cost.

>>14608706
There isn't a class that strikes me as op. I guess there's classes that make certain activities easier but none of them have anything that strikes me as, "Wow, now I'm this class I can't be beaten. Why did I play anything else."

>>14609133
Everything besides warmage gives me the "Why would I ever want to be this" feeling though.

>>14609190
If that's how you feel that's how you feel but for me, having played all the classes at one point or another, none of the classes struck me as being any more special than the other.

The warmage increased spell casting success is like splitting hairs for me. I was casting just fine as the other races. And I guess it almost goes without saying but starting skills may matter in the beginning but considering everyone can learn all the skills eventually, it doesn't really matter in the long run.

Gonna start a Snail tourist, wish me luck /jp/

>>14609584
>http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/fshbmg.bmp
Break a shell.

>>14609586
how do i even use that?
when i replace it with the one i have in my graphic folder my game just won't run

>>14610327
Did you rename it to character.bmp?

>>14610327
Check that you saved it in bmp
Compare with the original if there isn't sprites missing on the custom one (even tho i don't think it should crash the game)

>>14610495
i did.
>>14610497
save it in bmp? where is that? i thought i had to save it in the graphics folder,

>>14610518
Anon, bmp is the file extension. The graphic folder is the correct one. Which version of elona are you using?

>>14610518
like not in jpeg

>>14610518
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19781
Take a look into this, may be that's something like your problem.

>>14608500
Not him but yeah, I just recently realized you could change it in the config file.

>>14610584
i'm using 1.53
>>14610595
that's the same error message i'm getting. ty

So I just got all rewards from Mani and I'm thinking of switching gods. Any essential god gifts I should aim for?

>>14610695
Most tier two rewards are pretty useful. Definitely get Kumi's, reviving herb plants is pretty useful. You can also get additional stones from the little sister quest, and they have separate cooldowns.
Itzpalt's too, if you ever plan to use elemental magic.
Big Sis' stone is an extra 10 pp per month, but it's not as useful after early game.
Get the gods' weapon you plan to use, Kumi's scythe is useful if you don't have Corgon's ring or something else for rotten food. The Lucky Dagger is also pretty good. Same for the Wind Bow, but it's ethereal. Get Itz's staff if you're lacking res.

Do you guys ever imagine where Elona could be now if it was still being actively developed?

(The original Elona, not Elona+)

>king gets drunk
>starts beating up general
>general kills king
>the king has great shit in his inventory
nice

Does casting do anything for pets? Pretty sure I read somewhere that pets have a flat 95% chance to cast spells

>>14611412
Pets have their own formula in calculating the damage for their spells since they level individual spells like a player. Casting is a big part of this formula so raising a pet's casting skill will increase the damage it does with its spells.

>>14611512
* Sorry, I mean that pets don't level individual spells like a player.

>>14611518
Alright, thanks! I assume the equipment attribute that boosts the power of spells also applies to them as well then?

>>14611549
Yes

Just let me know if I'm asking too many questions. Does control magic help prevent enemies from being healed from healing rain?

>>14612481
Enemies shouldn't be healed by your (and in e+, your pets') healing rain in the first place.
If it happens either you're not playing e+, or something somewhere went terribly wrong.

>>14612514
Oh I just assumed it did, haven't seen my nurse in action yet (except against mobs that get oneshotted by my party)

>>14612564
Whoops! Nurses will only use their healing skills on enemies, i.e. if you are their enemy they will heal you.

>>14612579
Really? Thought they fixed that in e+? At any rate I'm using a custom ai so (hopefully) I can get her to target me and my allies properly

Do bosses like Cacy the Cat Tamer ever respawn or do you only get to kill them once?

>>14612933
No idea but there is a place in south tyris (i think) where all the unique npc are (like zeome and such)

>>14612933
You can find bosses like Cacy in the Void if for some reason you need to kill it again. Every 10 floors there's a random boss. Just hope it's Cacy.

Can I remove a single attribute from an item? I've got a ring with a lot of resists and other useful stats but it lowers speed by 27

>>14613081
It's every 5 floors.

I've been raising the Gardening skill quite a fair bit so far to start a herb farm that won't have any withered ones even when planted during the day. The cost of raising skill potentials had been reduced significantly since the last time I played Elona+, so it had been very easy to do so so far.

There is however an item I've seen people mention that helps significantly with herb farming - the Kurimori Scissors. How do I get one? There's only an entry under 'Other Items' on the wiki that briefly explained what it did, but nowhere else does it mention how you get one. Is it a South Tyris item? I've never actually beaten Zeome before, so never been there.

>>14613508
Well, it's found on amurdad, in Lost Irva... Which is after South Tyris.

As they say in the U.S.A. of America : ganbatte, motherfucker.

Guys help i keep diying like a little bitch.

>>14613658
Well, what are you dying to? Also, provide a pic of your character sheet and equipment. We'll be able to advise from what we see.

>>14613658
First get the little girl.
Second get the cheer ability.

>>14613680
How can i molest the little girl?

>>14613869
First you need to be on a bed. Second you need to have the squeeze ability. You can force her to sleep with you and do terrible things to her. After the deed you can get two vials of her love juice.

I haven't updated since 1.43
What's new and it is it a simple task of updating?

>>14613132
Corgon's ring, I assume? Nope, not unless you do some memory editing. -27 speed isn't that bad anyway unless you already have terrible speed.
>>14613949
Just copy it over the old version as usual. Make backups just in case something goes wrong.
>What's new
You're better of reading the change logs, really.
A dozen of them. Have fun!

Dang. This game looks really neat. Can't wait to make my avatar and hit a scarecrow for 4 weeks.

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Okay so, I've finally got my palace.

Now what? I'm not a creative kinda guy.

>>14615131
Remodel the entire thing into a rape cave.

>>14615131
Litter every room with your random crap while sleeping on a puddle on the lawn

>>14615131
transform it into a 3 by 3 cave

>>14615131
Use it as a canvas to make minimap pixel art. I love discovering "houses" like that.

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>>14615131
Well, I think something that every household should have is just a sweet, little cozy room to have all the hot, filthy, nonstop orgies with as many sex slaves strung up on performance enhancing stimulants as you can possibly have. Or how about a outdoor cafe?

If I give a pet special ammunition, do I have to refill it every now and then? And can pets even use time stop ammo?

>>14615131
Palace at level 27? Tell me your secrets. Or did you start from a gene file?

>>14615809
There's nothing special about it. I got it too around that time without gene files or anything, just doing dungeons and quests and basically not spending money on anything else

>>14615463
which sprite is that? nice sex dungeon

>>14615824
Oh. I guess my levels are inflated from spamming spells, then.

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>>14615919
The bunched up girls sprite is used in place of number 401 (the mass monster/behemoth) on all the girly sprite sheets.

>>14615131
Nice character sprites. Where did you get them?

i don't understand this fucking game. i got my ass beat at a lvl 2 dungeon and then i clear a lvl 6 one with my eyes closed. whaT

>>14616253
You'll learn very quickly that levels mean nothing in this game.

You could be level 100 and someone else's char at level 50 could have double your stats / skill levels if they trained their char properly and you didn't.

At very low levels though, whether or not you survive a dungeon is highly dependent on luck - what kind of mobs spawn, whether you get lucky with crits/dodging, etc...

>>14616253
Is the level 2 dungeon the puppy cave?

>>14616253
It's called RNG. Welcome to roguelikes and enjoy your complimentary death!
Tip: avoid dungeons for the time being, do board quests, level your skills, then start doing low level dungeons and huntings. Ignore escorts, you'll fail them. Read the pasta, playing elona (or any roguelike, for that matter) without knowing anything about the game is suicide.

So, how do you use a ranch? I assigned a wasp as a breeder, but so far she hasn't made anything (couple in-game days). Is there something I'm missing?

>>14616295
You're missing nothing, just need to assign someone and you're golden.
It just takes a stupidly long time for pets to start procreating. Also check the breeding power, the higher the better. "Fast" breeders have a value in the hundreds.

>>14616295
When you assign a mob it will say something like "breeding power". The higher that number, the more likely to spawn offspring.

It takes a lot of time still, either way. Good to start early.

Make sure you fill up a bunch of ranches before you beat Lesimas and you will get a shittonne of spawns after the time lapse.

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Has it always been possible to recharge spellbooks of domination?

>>14616346
Why are you posting a screenshot only you can read?

>>14616346
Wait what? Does that mean I can reserve spellbooks of dom?

>>14616364
>only you can read
You made me check which board I was on. Anyway, I recharged a spellbook of domination with Fill Charge.

>>14616366
You can reserve it at the scribe, yes. I think you can get it at level 80 invest, but I'm not sure. I'm at 140.

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>>14615131
You load it up with magic vendors, other NPCs, and you furnish it with cool stuff. The higher your house rank the better your salary and get your house rank to 1 and you can invite the gods/goddesses over.

I personally didn't start playing around with the house feature of Elona until recently. Figured after 650 or so hours of adventuring and the fact my character is getting older and the little girl isn't so little anymore,it was time to start thinking about settling down a bit. Wish I had started sooner though. While I have clear ideas for what I want my house to have, furnishing it will be the hardest part as that takes time.

Anyhow, this is my house that is definitely a work in progress. I remodeled the palace.

1) Main hall and servants rooms. Want to eventually fill each of the servants room with a kotatsu, add more beds, and other stuff. Outside is 42 Kumiromi statues for those curious Some are not in the picture. Used for herb seed generating.

2) This will be my ball room. Want to fill it with more tables. The northwest corner will have a piano and maybe I'll change floor paneling here to be a platform. Probably have a bard/band stationed here. Northeast corner I want to be a bar. This is very much a work in progress.

3) The kitchen. Wanted it to have tons of stoves, refrigerators, cabinets, barrels, and boxes. Could be improved but I think it's looking good so far.

4) This will be the game room. Thinking of furnishing it with blackjack tables if possible and other casino related things.

5) The throne room. Wish I had all the solider statues the same color. I have a throne for both me and my little girl and in the northeast corner I have my work desk. Around my work desk I'll have all the presents, new year gifts, chocolates, and other items of affection stacked in piles. Behind the throne room is my bedroom and personal bathroom.

6) The magic stalls. This is where I keep my magic vendors.

7) The classroom. Where my pets come to learn from Yuki, my not so little girl. Also the place where the gods will get reeducated on how to properly govern/take care of the world. I swear I will chain Lulwy to the desk if I have to. That Etherwind needs to stop. Anyhow, want to add more desks and other classroom related items.

8) The church. Not happy with the way it looks but for now it's where I'm storing all the god statues.

9) The vault behind a secret book shelf. I store my artifacts here. Maybe I'll use wizard harvest and dump gold all over the place as well.

10) The outside bath.

Not even thinking about adding additional floors until I get what I have already furnished.

>>14616408
Can you give me a list of some items I should look out for to furnish the house with?

Cool things, things that raise rank by a lot, etc..

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>>14616533
Wooden horse
Guillotine
Iron Maiden
Sandbag

>>14616533
Not him, but for one of the two ranks (heir, I believe it's called? Never understood what the fuck it meant) just drop around whatever unique artifact you can find that you're not using.
For the furniture rank, the treasure ball machines raise it quite a bit. Steal thrones and king beds from Palmia. Invest in the central vendors at the embassy, they sell decent stuff from time to time. Also steal a computer from the Cyberdome.
It's actually pretty easy raising your home to rank one just by furnishing rooms however you want.

>>14616533
The other anons have you covered for your answer. I personally am not paying too much attention to the rank since I'll get to number 1 in time simply because of my ambitions for my house. Most of the stuff I've furnished my house with has come from the invested vendors in the embassy, stuff I've found in the void, stuff I've found in story related dungeons(you can get lots of computers and servers from the story dungeon Machinery Fort). The problem is waiting for the vendors to stock what you want and in a color you don't find jarring. You can also pickpocket things you find nice as well.

If you need just general ideas for house design and what to fill it up with I found moongate hopping a source of inspiration.

>>14616549
>>14616559
>>14616672
Thanks guys. I guess I'll start investing a bit in the embassy NPCs.

>If you need just general ideas for house design and what to fill it up with I found moongate hopping a source of inspiration.

I remember visiting moongates when I first started out and dying instantly most of the time because people kept monsters in their homes or something. I've pretty much avoided them after that.

But that's a good idea now that I'm stronger. I'll give that a try (assuming moongates aren't broken due to lack of server)

Anyone know how skill exp works for tagged pets?

For example does only the pet with the killing blow get the exp to Tactics/Casting/etc.. or both share the exp?

>>14617032
They share gold picked up so I'm guessing they share the exp evenly.

smith or black market
which one should i get ?

>>14618593
Smiths. Black markets have better items, but with the inflated prices they have, by the time you can actually buy something from them you'll have better items from random drops or bosses.
At least blacksmiths still offer improving services, which you may need every time you change a piece of your/your pet's equipment.

>>14615809
That's nothing special. And I'm not even that experienced since I have roughly 300 hours total in Elona. I've seen people with up to 1300 hours on a single save.

I just made sure to keep my negotiation potential high and fucked over some random dungeons. The rewards you get are pretty nice.

>>14617032
You know, you don't get exp in tactics only for last hit. As for exp in gathering skills - only the pet who deals the deathblow gets exp.

guys is there any other way to cure my sickness apart from drinking blessed potions?

>>14619406
Dying is the sure way to cure it but I'm sure that's not what you're looking for. Just keep drinking blessed healing potions and get a good nights rest.

>>14618656
Which one sells sox more often?

>>14618656
If I have my house in front of Palmia, is there any reason to get anything aside loads of magic vendors?

>>14619760
No idea. I'd assume blacksmiths simply due to the fact that they just sell more items. Seem to be awfully rare in either case, though.
>>14619789
Not really, unless you plan on moving later.
Just hire more of what you need the most.
Personally I'd say to just hire goods, general and magic. Maybe a food vendor if you need more bread. Everything else pretty much loses usefulness in the late game.

>>14619760
You can also steal sox from higher level "thief" type enemies since it can spawn as their throwing weapon - your best bet is the jokers and ninjas.

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what am i lacking?

>>14620346
A pair of legs from what I can see.

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>>14620354
idk if this is good or bad. should i keep it?

>>14620379
If you have seven league boots, don't keep it. If you don't have the boots or want to be stingy on potions of cure corruption, then it's not too bad.

Also, +1 or +2 your armour and weapons at the blacksmith. It's not too expensive and helps a lot.

>>14620379
Cure it. You're missing faster world map travel with league boots.
There's also something pretty wrong with your speed. It says 68 but it's debuffed. Burden shouldn't get you in red with that bonus from the hooves. Do you have equip that reduces speed? Get a restore from a healer or quaff some restore potions just to be sure. Even better if they're blessed.

I take it there's no way to dual wield martial arts?

>>14620687
Nope. Dual wielding checks for multiple weapons. Shield, tonfas and claws don't count as weapons in this case.

The last time I played it was 1.28. Most things people talk about today didn't exist yet. Also I didn't know Anna posted in these threads.

So, I'm trying to add a hand to one of my pets. Why isn't mitra working (my pet only has 2 hands right now)

>>14620822
Where do I subscribe?

>>14621026
Here
http://maxicoon.deviantart.com/

>>14616408
>not reserving the gods a room for "special" re-education treatment instead. But then that would just be Lulwy's room

Great! Cant wait to see it when its done. I'm not even thinking about buying a palace, since I already placed far too much input into just the little castle I have.

>there's a palace now
see you in four hours

>>14606001
You can buy dungeon deeds now, last time I played.

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the only way to raise this thing is by eating herbs and drinking certain potions right?

>>14622654
Picnic basket in my opinion is the best option, really easy to make and trains every single party member so if you're a pet spammer you'll love it.

Of course you should still buy potions of potential whenever you see one.

I think herbs train the actual stat and not the potential.

>>14622654
I could be wrong but I think higher quality foods (not just herbs) will help you at least not lose potential as fast, if not raise it.

Other thing to note is if you use scrolls of inferior material to make equipment raw, eating anything that has "it maintains <stat>" can give you a buff that raises potential for 1500 turns ("you enter a period of rapid <stat> growth")

>>14622654
In early game make sure you teach cooking to your little girl and sleep at the right time to get breakfast in the morning.

That will help your potential. It won't increase it but it won't drop to hopeless really quickly.

>>14622684
>I could be wrong but I think higher quality foods (not just herbs) will help you at least not lose potential as fast, if not raise it.
You're wrong. All really good food does is provide better stat bonuses when eaten.

>>14622684
good thing i'm training my cooking skill
>>14622680
if i invest in my magic vendor will i see those potions more often?

>>14622680
>I think herbs train the actual stat and not the potential.
Herbs train potential in the attribute they train, except curaria and stomafilia, those only train attributes.
>>14622691
Do this. The right time to sleep is from 10 to 12, roughly. Give it tailoring or carpentry while you're at it, an extra free miracle/godly item never hurts.
>>14622706
>invest in magic vendor
Yes. I know I started getting them more often after 150 invest. Also on the subject of magic vendors, after you get your economy going, mass buy and bless scrolls of wonder. Easier than reading some books, only way to get some spells, flat 200 stock. Even if you're not a mage, some spells always come in handy.
>cooking
Keep it up. Especially early game you can get lucky and cook high level food, which sells for tons of money at that point.

>>14622654
The pet breakfast thing like the other anons said is fine from what I experienced, though I've never gotten past great potentials on any of my stat.

Still currently grinding for gardening and buffing up so I can get kumiromi statue and get herbs all day erryday.

>>14622680
Is there an easy way to get eggs?

It seems to take forever for anything to spawn in ranch and even then it's not guaranteed to get eggs.

>>14624086
Get ranches
Get chickens

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How deep into the Void will I need to go to overcome this massive INI wall?

What matters the most on a weapon? Hit dice or attributes?

What do you think about if spells had different cast time (more or less than one turn) ?

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>>14625609

>>14625609
ranged weapon overlords will rule us all

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>>14625609
Let's add cooldowns too.

>>14625770

It looks like you think that changing the cast time means a change in damage output.

For me it would rather be a mean to add to the tactical aspect of the game, give every spell it's own flavor and open the way to new mechanics.

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I should have gotten potions of evolution.

>>14625068
I don't have Fron so I can't test it out myself but yeah you'll be going down pretty deep. At lv 360 of the void, where I'm currently training my character and pets, I'm able to get AP for all of my pets. Surprisingly, even God inside Ehekatl is getting AP down here with an INI of 3114/333.

Since Fron has it even worse for INI, I would imagine it will be at least lv 360 of the void but probably deeper. Since I'm not sure how many people are even doing the void in this thread,I thought I'd at least throw up some number help you out. If you haven't been down to these levels before, come prepared. The god type creatures are starting to show up and Yith creatures are all over the place down in these levels.

>>14626685
Is it a good pick at least?

>>14626697
It's decent at mining and wasting space

>>14626685
I know that feel man.

I wanted to get a treasure map on a wish last night so I typed in suremap as the wiki suggested. Got a red treasure machine instead.

Wasn't even in my home and the thing is too heavy to carry so I won't even be able to use it for home rank.

>>14625600
Depends on what you're using the weapon for. If it's for damage you want the hit dice to be big and if it isn't you're going to hope the attributes make up for that damage either through invokes or something else. Most of the time the invokes don't make up for the damage though and I just discard them for bigger hit dice weapon. If it's just being used for resists or something non damage related then you don't care about hit dice.

>>14626750
You could pick it up, let it crush you and then drop it in your house when you respawn, but that does require dying.

>>14626750
Wiki is partially outdated/still based on base elona. Use "treasure map" in e+. No quotes. Tested it out in wizard, suremap fails more often than not, treasure map gave me maps every time in roughly 150 wishes.

>>14626750
it's "sure map" you idiot, if you're going off the wiki why not just copy+paste to ensure that you can't fuck it up?

Can Bells appear by using the scroll of the ally?

>>14627097
If you have a problem catching them just throw a poison at them, when you can act again they should be a very low health, now throw you monsterball.

>>14626948
Thanks, I'll use that next time.

>>14626980
I did copy the Wiki exactly. I didn't go back on it to check the exact phrase when I made the post here though. Either way, calm your fucking tits.

>>14627097
I have gotten bells before when I spammed scrolls of ally for gene engineering targets.

>>14627103
This doesn't work when you are really low level (really low speed, actually). The bell actually dies before you get another turn.

Best way to get one at low level is to use rod of domination.

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>>14626685
I'm so sorry for you anon.

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What is the most mind-numbingly dull aspect of this game?

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Why is this big daddy suddenly spamming shots like an A-10?

>>14628878
Reading spellbooks.

The little girl looks like Viola from Witch's House.

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>>14615463
I cannot believe I only just noticed some of those sprites are from Venus Blood.

im starting to get some nice items but i have a problem, i don't know if they stack and when do they cap

things like increase/decrease chance to crit, proximity assist and nullifie dmg

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>>14628878
Grinding Mining/Endurance maybe.

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Finally

>>14631763
what race did you play?

>>14631856
Juere Gunner

are rods even useful in this game? i have 2 pgs of my inventory full of them

>>14633115
Historically, no, but it seems like Ano is trying to get people started off doing Magic Device builds, what with quick use, duplicane, and easy training via alchemy.

>>14633115
Rods are either useless trash if you haven't leveled Magic Device or pretty damn useful if you have and you have access to Quick Use to get free rodturns.

>>14632969
afaik, martial arts is bugged currently or is working in a way that kinda sucks. The multi strike doesn't activate nearly enough to make it do enough damage as other modes of attack. I suppose you can get by with the skill if you grind it out, but just know everyone else will probably be having an easier time dealing damage with weapons or spells.

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>>14631859
Are we sharing wins?

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big daddy op as shit

How do I teach pets skills?

>>14635851
gene engineering

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should i buy me a small castle?

>>14636409
If you like the space provided by a castle, NPC amount, or the looks of it, sure, buy a castle but the palace is a step above it. If you can save up a million gold what's another million gold to you to buy a palace if you're considering going that route.

>>14636409
Palace is larger and has one more spot for a servant. I recall them costing around 1.7M when castles sold for 1M.

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>>14636462
I try to role play as other people in video games and not myself anon.

>>14636464
>>14636472
but if i die how much gold am i gonna lose? i'm scared,,,saving up that 1m was...quite easy desu but still

>>14636682
No idea, honestly. My latest character had hilariously op equipment thanks to his father, by the time things managed to kill me I wasn't giving a fuck about money.
Wiki says 1/3 of what you're carrying, don't know if it's accurate as of the latest version.

>>14636682
With that amount of money you should already be storing your dosh in a piggy bank.

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Drink dammit! I need those boots!

Are there any ways pre-boots that can get me plenty of money fast? I want to start chugging those potential potions before I go hopeless.

Usually I do the Noyal <=> Port Kapul cargo train, but I doubt I could pull it off right now.

>>14637760
Its pretty ambitious at your level to even think of getting constant supplies of potential pots.

>>14637760
Once a pet is full up she's not going to drink from the well. Why don't you drink from the well? Doesn't like like you're full and your character should lead by example.

Can just do quests and sell crap you find in the puppy caves. Maybe you'll get oracle scrolls that sell for a bit of gold.

>>14637783
I want to get the boots so I can start raking in money from those sick-people escort quests

>>14637790
I've never liked escort quests since it takes up more time than any other quest as well forcing nap.

Just get a pet and have her learn cooking skill so you can raise stat potentials to acceptable degrees early on in the game. To maximize efficiency of breakfast, I avoid traveling around too much when sleepy status hits.

>>14637760
Get some slaves from Derphy and have them drink from the wells. You'll go through them much faster me thinks.

>>14637800
>Just get a pet and have her learn cooking skill so you can raise stat potentials to acceptable degrees early on in the game.
That requires me to learn gene engineering, right?

Guess it's time to play horse surgeon.

>>14637807
I have 3 charisma and no potential to gain charisma, unfortunately.

>>14637820
Give beer to NPCs and fug them, or learn negotiation to train that stat, man.

>>14637831
I've already got a decent amount of negotiation, the problem is that the charisma stat is at bad potential.

>>14637820
Oh man you really should not have settled for such a low roll on Charisma at char creation.

Scum about in Puppy Cave until you find two engagement rings for +10 chr.

>>14637760
Drink yourself. Snag a fairy hat if you dislike mutations so much, or take your wish and use your idiot girl to grandfather it onto a new character

>>14637835
>Oh man you really should not have settled for such a low roll on Charisma at char creation.
I'm a golem predator, wasn't much of a choice on my end

>Scum about in Puppy Cave until you find two engagement rings for +10 chr.
Good idea.

That will give me two slots for horses to drink from wells and butcher for gene engineering.

>>14637837
>or take your wish and use your idiot girl to grandfather it onto a new character
I'm afraid I don't understand.

If I manage to find a fairy hat I'll probably start drinking myself then.

>>14637841
>If you picked Golem, you're either better off finding the rings or nabbing the nurse or rouge wizard from derphy to pass genes to the girl.

If you want to nab dosh, talk to cargo traders.

>>14637841
That was meant to be "Take your boots, get your little girl's affection up to Soul Mate, marry her, and engage in procreative copulation to create the heir who will be the new bearer of your consciousness."

>>14637870
>If you want to nab dosh, talk to cargo traders.
Can that even function without seven league boots? I remember crawling like a snail tourist across the map when carting snowmen and christmas trees to Port Kapul, so it must be pure hell for someone without the boots.

>>14637871
I'm not sure if my gigantic stone penis will fit.

You know how those creepy dreams get rid of resists you get from food? Does that happen to your allies or do they keep their resists permanently?

>>14638348
Permanent, go force feed your little girl !

>>14637760
Just run dungeons, give yourself a DL limit like "no higher than 5" so you don't push up your DLs to unmanageable levels early on. You can probably keep it up nearly indefinitely because the world will probably reset before you can run them all.

Damn, my character is crappy. Managed to beat Azzrssil at level 52, but it wasn't the cakewalk I had expected.

I expect to have even more trouble with ultima, so is it still possible/feasible to steal the railgun off her?

>>14637886
>I'm not sure if my gigantic stone penis will fit.
Doesn't matter, because her penis will fit into you.

>>14638432
Precious items cannot be stolen.

But you can steal the ammo.

>>14638685
For the ammo it depends. According to the change logs for 1.51 fix ammo that is equipped can't be stolen anymore. He most likely will have to beat Utima in a straight up fair fight.

>>14638432
You're going to have a lot of fun with the catgirl in the other chaos fort as well. Well, I wouldn't feel too bad though. Most people have to grind for awhile to beat her. Her speed is what kills most adventurers.

If I ride a pet, do I need to raise my pets speed through AP or can I just take the AP upgrade myself?

>>14639064
You will need to spend your AP on your pet as your mount's speed and your riding skill is being used to determine your speed.

>>14639106
Well this sucks. I highly doubt my horse can kill anything in the void.

Does wielding a tonfa/shield negate martial arts?

>>14639371
Nope. Actual shields should give you a penalty to hit, or so I hear.
Tonfa and claws were made for martial arts in the first place.

>>14633115
Itzpalt likes rods.

>>14638348
>>14638354
Does that even work? The PC is the only character who gets mutations. I've never seen a pet acquire a new resist despite numerous attempts.

>>14639113
Tag-team.

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What do I chimera onto my little girl to make her learn cooking?

Tried nurses and wizard, they dont work.

>>14641796
Try zombies or minotaur magicians. The rogue wizard or the nurse should have them though. You may need to gene engineer other skills into her before they show up with it or you're not gene engineering a high enough level rogue wizard or nurse to have the skills show up.

>>14641837
I'm not high enough level for rogue wizards (off by one), I'll come back later and see if it works.

Nurses do't seem to work no matter what.

>>14641796
I gene'd a bunch of twin tails into my little girl.

>>14641796
Maybe grab those farmers out of Yowyn.

>>14641796
Rogue Wizard
You can buy them from slavers

>>14641304
Not too sure, but I think the food-related resists don't count as mutations, as they can co-exist with the corresponding opposite mutation (also when I fed one of my pets it received the "gained a resist" text, dunno if it actually applies). At any rate, I always get creepy dreams so no point trying to get my own resists up

Can you alch a rod into a rod of wish? If not, what's worth alching nowadays?

Which shop has the possibility to sell barbecue sets?

>>14643513
If you've gotten pickpocket I'd suggest going to a party time, killing off all nearby npcs (obviously don't piss off the higher level guys) and stealing a barbecue set over there - it's cheaper and more reliable

>>14643519
This is where I got mine from, trying to buy one is just too much.

>>14643500
Theoretically it's possible but I myself have never gotten a rod of wish this way. The only thing I use alchy rods for are to make zero charge rods into new rods and hope for the best in what it turns it into. The new rods come fully charged. I find this a decent alternative to throw away rods since the rod draw and fill exchange rates are horrendous. Draw and fill should only be used on rods you really want around. Everything above, assuming that you want to either blast at full power or can't use dupli for.

Is there any way to change the aesthetics of your equipment? I really don't like how my armor looks

>>14646212
The inventory icon or what it looks like on your character when wearing it?

>>14646439
What it looks like on my character

>>14646495
There might be a way to change their appearance, maybe with the PCCs folder, but I'm not sure. In the worst case you can disable equipment showing on your character and decide on your (permanent) apperance during character customization at the start of the game, with the PCCs.

>>14646519
Oh ok. How do I disable equipment showing on my character then?

>>14646571
Find a dresser and use it. There's one in Palmia, king's bedroom.

Are there any more spritesheets available besides those in the pastebin? I want to customize my allies looks

>>14646805
You can go to the ElonaUploader and download a bunch of single sprites and then copy-paste them onto a sheet of your own.

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Is there any point to gene engineering casting/magic control etc onto little girls? Can they use spells? How can I teach them spells?

>>14647579
Check Annabanana's pet ai, little girls are better for buffing though.

For the purpose of spellcasting, do claws and tonfas count as shields?

I'm a martial arts guy who wants to cast healing/buff spells.

Wait a fucking second.

You can eat cargo food in dungeons now?

Has this always been a thing? Am I a retard?

>>14647589
Nope

>>14647677
No, it hasn't. You are not a retard, just inattentive.

>>14647587
>Annabanana's pet ai
Where can I find that?

What does 'grasp of curse words' for Baphomet do, is it useful?

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>it brings an end
No thanks mate

>>14648062
Dump it in the forest never to be seen again.

I wont even sell cursed items in my shop because I fucking hate teleporting town NPCs.

>>14648078
It's not cursed, though. Also as far as I'm aware, selling items in the shop doesn't actually sell them to people, it just destroys them and convert them to gold/other items. I sold tons of those and no one started teleporting, aside from those that already did.
>>14647737
Talk with the pet and select the option about talking about tactics. It's very similar to FF XII gambits, if you're familiar with those. You obviously need to use Anna's custom elona.

>>14647579
Don't think casting does much for them, unless you're planning on teaching them a few spells (or evolving them into witches) but control magic will reduce the amount of damage they take from allied spells (although how the calculation works makes it five times less effective than your own control magic skill, but it's free damage reduction so why not)

>>14647860
That just curses an enemy's items, I believe. That probably won't do much for you, unless you manage to get a particularly hard boss to teleport away, or get assassinated by an unseen hand (I don't know if that would actually work, but it would be hilarious if it did). Since E+ makes it so ridiculously easy to remove curses, it's not as much of a pain as it was, but it's probably still not worth it.

is the info on the wiki about cargos still accurate?

>>14648062
What does "It brings an end" even do?

>>14649393
Screen lights up in a blazing inferno and towns people get incinerated. Dragons and giants spawn in a huge batch and start raping and killing. Etherwind starts blowing and if a bard or bards are still alive they become metal and start singing about some generic fantasy themes.

>>14648567
Damn, I thought it was a convoluted way of saying death's word.

>>14649620
Nope. You're looking for "the enemy dies" on eternal force weapons. Good luck finding one of those, though.

Can someone give me a download link for 1.51's fixed version? I can't find one anywhere.

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I'm lovin it.

I wish you could stair dance like in most other roguelikes.

>>14649931
Disregard this, I'm just retarded

>>14647737
If you need a detailed explanation on how it works, see:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

Is it possible to port my save from elona 1.5.3 to custom without trouble?

>>14650499
Oh wait, I'm an idiot, I thought it was a seperate fork, not a mod.

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How do I seduce Urcaguary and make her stop laughing at my advances?

>>14650582
The woman shitting on that one guy with the sock fetish yet wants you to bring her socks to feed her own secret sock fetish? love potions and presents might work.

>using grenades the first time
>explosions for days, everything dropping dead while little girl picks up scraps
Where have throwing weapons been all of my elona life?

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>>14650980
Yep, grenades are officially the best.

Fuck Cacy.

>>14643500
I collect crappy equipment and zap them on a lucky day.

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is there a way to fix this? i used the elona custom and my save keep showing me this and saying please exit current world and enter new area and to save in the previous version of the game but the save doesnt load there too

>>14651971
Hope you made a backup/copy of your save, something that you should always do before an update, since your picture shows a corrupt save file. You'll need to load your backup.

>>14652009
damn i didnt have a back up, guess creating a new character is the only thing i can do.


Rest in peace irina

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Christ, my follower is about 3 times as powerful as me.

Once I get the herb food / potential potion train rolling she'l be unstoppable.

>>14652009
Do you backup using the backup.bat linked in the pastebin?
I ask cause it doesn't seem to work, at least I can't tell that it is working.

>>14652062
I just make a copy of the save folder and I store it on my flash drive. When I need to recover from a bug or a corrupted save it I just overwrite the games save folder with my backup.

What characters are you guys playing? I like seeing other characters.

>>14652169
Mutant thief. Still trying to motivate myself to play through south tyris content.

Anyone has a copy of the spreadsheet on the Elosnack page? I can't seem to access the forums.

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Is wearing medium armor a must for warmages for the magic equip action?

I've been wondering because I'm feel like I'm not taking full advantage of the class's +5% cast success perk, but 97% cast success is too irritating.

>>14652169
Elea warmage.

I beat utima - I just realized it's utima not ultima - the raging roar and chaos ball procs really hurt for some reason even with superb resistance and elemental shield.

Frisia next, and win or lose I'll step into lesimas for the first time.

>>14652951
how do you keep your potential at superb?? you cheater!

>>14653011
It's the norm once you get established enough. Look at the other character sheets in this thread.

>>14653136
*previous thread and the thread before

...though the archives appear to not work for me.

>>14605081
How do i play this shit? the controls is too confusing

>>14653167
Just keep pressing ? and looking things up.

>>14653167
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Controls

Consider the Elona wiki the instruction manual for the game.

>>14652951
I'm a warrior that plays like a claymore, but I still use Light Armor due to casting.
Just use a lot of blessed flying scrolls to keep armor and weapons light. Use Griffon Scale and many late game armors are pretty light.

>>14652951
Yep, only works with medium armor. I'm also playing an Elean warmage and I'm ignoring that ability for the same reason. Though I also dual wield so cast chance would really get too low for me.
You might try to wear medium, cast magic equip and then go back to light, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on the wiki that you keep the buff but it doesn't boost spell power unless you're actually wearing medium.
Good luck on Frisia, with that speed, you'll need it.

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>>14652169
This is my current party. I'm a Eulderna Gunner/Mage and so far I'm running with a Valkyrie and the Exile. As a complete noob to sprite working, I took up anon's suggestion to start out in editing and altering sprites I found than building them from scratch. As such, I decided to update my Valkyrie/little girl's sprite since she's no longer 12.

Party works pretty well although if I want to kill anything myself, I need to run solo most of the time. With these two pets out I usually end up playing a support role instead by providing healing and such. In the void I switch from my support role to an attacker though. Things down there are way too strong for me to sit out but all things considered, I'm just glad these pets are strong enough to have my back in the fights down there. It's worth the struggle for all that AP I'm getting. I'm amazed at all the AP I've spent on myself and the rest of my pets.

>>14654179
Cool stuff.

Does anyone else run the game at 1280*768? It's the biggest standard resolution but it cuts off the first row of tiles at the top. Anyone else have the same issue?

>>14654511
Probably have to run it at a lower resolution to avoid problems. Game has been around for a long time and I'm not sure it was built with the current resolutions available today in mind sadly. I mainly run the game at 800 x 600 in windows mode due to me loving to fiddle around with youtube in the background while I play or listen to documentaries. If I do run the game in full screen I usually just run it at 800 x 600 as well. I don't seem to have any graphical problems in this resolution. Probably can scale higher until you see things start to break though.

>>14654511
The best compromise I found is 1104x760
Maybe you can find a bigger resolution but I got tired of rebooting the game every three seconds to find a resolution that wouldn't cut the tiles.

>>14654619
Ended up googling about it and finding that 1248x760 works perfectly, so that's what I am now using.

>>14654179
I remember you.

>>14654179
Now that they're on an equal footing, how do they compare? I find that my exile has some pretty nasty lockdown potential with darkness ball.

>>14654794
They're both pretty good and fill their roles nicely. The Valkyrie is a great tank and can dish out the damage as well. In normal dungeons and some awakened dungeons the Exile however, kills all the monsters before my Valkyrie gets to them but when enemies start piling on the resists, such as in the void, the Valkyrie is able to get in there and start wrecking stuff. My Valkyrie does more damage than my Exile but given that the Exile can do AOE and as you said, has lockdown potential, it's all good. The next order of business for my Exile is to start feeding her magic fruit and have her lean the AP Feat of barrier. Since her MP bar will be pretty big this should help her survive if she ends up getting hit. I've been using all my AP on just raising her casting skill so far though.

>>14654179
you only use 2 pets?

>>14654956
That's all the pets I have trained up currently which I actually use regularly. The rest are in the discarded ranch, my home, and in the dojo. The one's in the my house, discarded ranch, etc I just haven't gotten around to using but I do find them neat. Such as the rest of the god reward pets, named NPCs I've come across in my travels, etc. As for how I train my pets I train them one at a time. This works for me but other people might feel comfortable training more pets at once.

I do want to have a fourth party member but I haven't settled on who I will train up next though. I have a lot to choose from. Currently I'm content to finish up music ticket farming for my character before I consider who number four will be.

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How would I go about raising one of these? I'm guessing I'd have to grind AP to speed it up like mad, and gene engineer a bunch of limb onto it.

>>14655912
Pretty much.

The good news is that since its stats suck so hard it'll gain AP like lightning once it's able to actually kill anything.

>>14655921
I've never grinded for AP before, so it should be interesting.

>>14655912
It's almost trivial thanks to tag teaming. But you need something that can tank the initial AP suppliers with that 25 speed.

What tiles are see-through but not walk-through when you design your home? I've got a god here that i wished for who I want on display.

>>14657225
The fence on the ranch.

>>14654179
Why does your valkyrie need only 1770 gold to train? My little girl spends 3000 something each time.

>>14657251
It's the little girl you get at the very beggining, this one is lower level than the ones at the slave market so lower INI.

>>14657258
Wait, you mean the opposite, right? The slave master little girls are level 1.

Oh well, I suppose a few tens of millions of gold won't matter much later anyway. I can't bear to part with her.

>>14657364
No, the starting one is the level 1, at the slave master they are at level 4.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Little_girl

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>>14657448
Oops, was reading the slave master page. Thought level acquired = pet level.

Anyway this is her, and her training cost at the bottom.

I guess this means I accidentally fused the starting girl and kept one from the slave master? I did change her sprite very early though, so that seems unlikely. Or maybe I entered vernis at level 3 or something because I read the spellbooks I started with? Her INI is lower than the valkyrie in >>14654179 though.

There's also someone in the AP page comments who says
>a little girl 2325gp
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AP
so maybe... uh. Dunno.

>>14654511
>>14654619
>>14654630
1920x760 is best

Got back into E+ and the music pack doesn't work.
Been using the one from the nifty page since the start yet for some reason it simply doesn't work now and shit feels weird without.

Anyone have some general things to try?

best furniture to rank up my small castle?
should i invest in my general goods vendor?

>>14657667
Edit musiclist.txt.

Frisia feels the easiest of the 3 chaos forts because she just kept going back and forth between the bell and I. Now to finally begin the main quest.

Also someone put up a joke page on the wiki - how do I mark the page for deletion? Or do I blank it?

>>14657517
I'm not sure how INI values are exactly calculated, aside from the general idea that the stronger the pet starts out the higher the INI values, but maybe it's possible the evolution to Valkyrie increased her INI values? The wiki also makes mention that getting AP get's harder in time as you collect it so I wouldn't be surprised if INI values start increasing eventually. I don't know if this is truly the case though.

I like your little girl portrait and sprite btw.

>>14658573
INI does not change without memory or save editing.

>>14657517
My little girl also spends 3.1k gp to train.

I'm sure this is the one I've had since Vernis because I never bought any little girls from Derphy.

>>14658636
Charisma does influence prices so maybe with Yuki's high charisma she's getting a discount to training? She does have negotiation as well now that I think about it.

>>14658706
Whoops, meant >>14658706 for >>14657251

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Don't be shy now Jure, we will have such good times

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what am i suppose to do with all this shade

>>14658043
Comparing it to the one in the original folder it looks perfectly fine though.
Kind of stumped here

>>14657517
Yeah that is strange. Not sure why my INI values are different. Seems my first number is three higher and my second number is two higher. Not exactly huge differences but still differences to be sure. I also made a new character to confirm if the little girl had a minor variance in INI values but no the values match your little girl's value.

I definitely remember getting my little girl which would become my Valkyrie from the starting pet list when I entered Vernis. I remember being vexed by her originally long name and changing it immediately after getting her. Not sure what the reason could be. All I can say is I've been playing Elona for a very long time and I don't know what version of Elona+ I entered specifically. If INI values have changed along the way for both pets and characters it's possible that my character and pets were just grand fathered in so to speak without having the changes applied to them. It's also possible strangeness could of happened in upgrading.

>>14658841
Merge the one from the download with Elona+'s one. I think it won't work if the new songs aren't listed.

>>14649417
This sounds fucking amazing and hilarious, i need to see it happen.

>>14659322
Only one part of that is an exaggeration but everything else is true.

>>14659008
No dice still. Game still works but there's just 0 music playing. Works fine without the pack in there otherwise.

Welp

If my highest resist is magic, will I get magic attribute fists?

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>>14659322

Wait, if etherwind starts blowing from ragnarok, does that mean I can go into a shelter and come out when everyone has died?

>>14659589
Pretty sure things will still be on fire with dragons, ogres and titans running around.

>>14659322
Let's Ragnarok!

Search the above along with Elona and you'll get what you want, probably.
Or just get Whom Dwell in Vanity's sword and whack some dude in town with it.

>>14659358
Can you listen to the MIDI without the pack?

>>14660524
From the pack or the originals?
Either way in both cases I can

>>14660546
Just to be sure, you went to Options, Sound & Music, and set Music to direct music?

>>14660560
Sure did, just checked

>>14660560
>>14660733
So I tried changing just one single entry in the music list after letting it generate its original.

Used the cyberdome entry for it; changing it to a custom track in different formats and nothing would play there.

Thread's almost over, but how are you guys finding the new hydrobolt spell?

>>14661459
What? This is news to me.

>>14660916
try moving your game folder to somewhere else. like "D:\elona".

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>>14661641
Well shit that actually worked; I feel dumb for not doing that earlier.
Thanks for the help.

>>14661611
Version 1.54. There's a spellbook for it already. I found one on a magic vendor. It seems like a good spell to go with lightning bolt.

>>14661459
>>14661821
Holy shit that's real.
So what damage does it do, physical ?
Or no element whatsoever, not even physical, and so bypassing all defenses ever ?

Depending on its formula, it may be better than all others once levelled/when facing resistances-heavy high level monsters.

>>14661899
It says non-elemental, and effective against enemies with high magic resistance... so I dunno.

Also says very low damage (4d4 when I tried it), and washes away stuff like fires and spider webs. Will make target wet, so be careful when using against enemies with swimming.

I haven't seen the other one yet. Is it a ball-type water spell?

>>14661994
*3d4

>>14661821
Oh cool 1.54's out. They add anything else? Wiki doesn't have the translated patch notes yet