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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs:
http://i.imgur.com/nbLMrMk.png

Equipment upgrade values:
http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/KCV-Localisation/KanColleViewer/releases
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/FreyYa/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (yuyuvn successor): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer/releases

PS Vita Game was delayed to 18 February 2016: http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-Fall 2015 event will end on December 7th.
-Tanikaze will receive a Christmas sprite, Takao and Agano class new voice lines along with others.
-New combined fleet added for the purpose of transport operations.
-Armor debuffing is back for the Extra Operation maps.
-3 new equipment: Bf 109T kai, Fw 190T kai and the 10.5cm Twin Gun Mount.
-4 new ships: Kashima, Graf Zeppelin, Hagikaze and Arashi. The drop only ships drop on all difficulties.
-Katori class is now able to give their exp bonus outside of flagship position in PvP.
-Akizuki and Prinz Eugen are available to get as a drop during the event.
-New monthly rewarding a Skilled Crew Member to be added sometime in the future.
-KanColle Arcade has been delayed to Spring.
-KanColle will add Android support in Winter.
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>>14424287
I want to film Kashima doing embarassing things!
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>>14424298
Like being with you in public?
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>>14424298
I want her to make me sandwiches.
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I struggle getting S ranks on E-4 boss, can I improve anything? kuso modo
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>>14424426
Too many bbs in the first fleet, change one to an asw ship
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>>14424447
The problem isn't the boss, but the BB Hime and Wo Kai, BB Hime more often than Wo though.
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>>14424426
You don't even have a good AACI Maya and you don't need AACI on easy, your ASW sucks so much, you don't have a torpedo slut with double attack for insurance in case BB Hime lives. It's always the Kongou fags.
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>>14424426
Not enough CLT
CLT also should get 2xguns so that they can kill BBhime. Remove battleshit, they are useless.
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>>14424453
Oh, just realized your clts are on asw equips

Use double-attacks on them, and 3 clts are fine too with good asw equipment on your other girls
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>>14424426
Also, where are your observation planes and upgrades? Having subpar ASW is not acceptable since it's a cheap recipe. You only need 2BBs maximum for the main fleet, I did 1BB 2CA. Your planes are also shit, how do you have Bismarck and 2 married ships and not even have good planes or equipment. Jesus fuck, at the very least use fit guns, it's combined fleet.
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>>14424501
I've been lazy. Haven't bothered with quests and equipment in maybe 6 months, I really only log on for events and pvp.
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>>14424426
Anything? You should improve virtually everything:
- you need more T3 sonars,
- AACI is unnecessary, get rid of Maya and use an ASW-oriented light cruiser (Yuubari would be the best),
- your BBs suck, but their guns suck even harder,
- double attack for CLTs,
- upgraded equipment would be cool, but I assume you don't have Akashi.
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>>14424641
I have Akashi but I got maybe 10 screws
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>>14424641
Running those guns on fast BBs is preferable isn't it? Don't 46cms on fast BBs incur accuracy penalties?
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>>14424967
Yes, and so do 41cm.
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Does Ikazuchi wear stockings or thigh highs? This is important.
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>>14425051
Fan art shows both, but I think it is stockings.
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>>14424973
Official tweet says the accuracy penalty is not huge, as long as there are not too many overweight guns. I'm curious as to where the numbers from the fit gun guide in the OP are from.

Here's to hoping that the LSC gods will grant me Bismarck next craft.
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>>14425137
>not huge
Having 1 overweight gun severely hinders accuracy because everyone used to stack 46cm and call it a day. If you want the best balance, 1 pasta gun and 1 Bismarck gun should do it.
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>>14425137
>the accuracy penalty is not huge
This, at least for 41cms on bongos.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results
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>>14425178
That said, it's still better to have fit guns in rengo, because accuracy a shit.
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>>14425178
Here's a more direct link.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results#Simplified_Test_Results_2
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Graf and Prinz will be available in the next event, right? I'm almost out of fuel after 150 runs of the boss node and I still haven't even found the former.
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>>14425162
0 Italian ships in fleet. I guess I'll stock for LSC to get Bismarck instead. In the meantime, I can only resort to pleb tier 35.6cm guns.

>>14425217
Nothing is confirmed on Twitter.
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>>14425217
They will end up like other rare ships that the devs decide where they will drop, if they drop at all. Sometimes Shioi drops, sometimes she does not.
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I'm trying to farm E2's boss node, but I can never fucking reach it because that heavy cruiser on the pre-boss night battle node does that fucking cut-in attack every single time I get there, and it always taihas a DD (and its almost always Yukikaze). I don't have Hamakaze so I can't take the easier route. Do support expeditions trigger on night battles? I really want to kill that heavy cruiser before it can do that fucking cut-in.
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Out of buckets. Last sortie for Pudding farming, wish me luck!
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>>14424287
>KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/KCV-Localisation/KanColleViewer/releases
Whenever time for next thread comes, whoever makes it should update the link builds https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer/releases
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>>14425400
Enjoy your Ikazuchi
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Jets when, Tanaka?
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>>14425406
I got it.
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>>14425410
Fusou
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>>14425400
Roma
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>>14424426
Fix your plane slots.
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I sure love crafting this radar 3 times in a row! Why couldn't it have been a surface radar for once.
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>>14425498
I wish it didn't exist, I have almost 2 pages of it and only 4 T32.
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>>14425498
Reminds me that I should scrap the majority of my air radars.
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>>14425498
One day the fumoffus will eat these radars at Akashi's and that day I will have a ton of them ready for that very reason.
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>>14425553
I want to get rid of them but I don't want to be an idiot and scrap them like I did with the searchlights and Type 21 radars. The devs are slow in updating the game.
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Quest time strikes again.

Loot:
Zeppuu
Akitsu Maru #2
Roma
Prinz
Akizuki
2 * Maruyu
Nagato

Still to go:
Yuu
Mizuho
Arashi
Umikaze
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>>14425592
I have 20 late model 12.7cms now.

Shimakaze Kai 2 when.
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>>14425739
>DD that can equip minisub
Not soon enough.
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>>14425749
There's already one. Too bad it's the enemy.
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>>14425812
She equips abyssal cuttlefish torpedo, not midget sub!
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>>14425812
>those dindu hands
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>>14425812
I just noticed she wears a cape.
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>>14425739
>>14425749
Imagine if you use a memedal on a torpedo ready ship to make her able to equip minisubs? I wouldnt think about it 2 times. Would solve a lots of things like potato bias, event bans, waiting forever for x kai ni and so on.
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>when your CLTs remember they have a firepower stat
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>>14426089
I saw a justin beaver hit 33crit to ru, and a mutsuki hitting 33 to av hime, anything is possible.
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>>14426060
She had a rough start by looking like a Chinese rip-off, but it worked out in the end in my opinion. There is hidden charm within her just like Chitose class
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>>14426097
I'm fairly sure I saw Kiso oneshot a Ta before
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>>14426097
>mutsuki hitting 33 to av hime
You should read about scratch damage.

>beaver hit 33crit to ru
Non-elite DDs in combined fleet can 1HKO flag Ru.
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>>14426102
Now that you mention it, I'm not sure if I want more Teruteru with a side of Ducky or Kashima.
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>>14426120
>There is hidden charm within her
Her VA did an excellent job.
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>perfect S on SShime
>get a Hiryuu
Thanks, I guess
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>>14426128
Kashima seems too recent for anything substantial
Evil Ducky generated quite a bit of emotion, but I think Teruzuki will get the most of them
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>>14426135
I just realized I've never gotten a dupe Hiryuu. Makes me feel lucky that I somehow ended up getting my first Hiryuu while orel cruising
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>>14426150
>tfw three Hiryuus now
>two Zuikakus
>two Yukikazes
>still no "common" Souryuu
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>>14426162
Just grind a million DD's on 4-3 and you'll get one eventually
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>>14425498
Feels good to have done that. Although I've yet to craft a a T14.
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>>14426167
Getting to 4-3 is a goal of mine, currently put on hold by the event. I've spent most of my few months in this game grinding botes to kai form instead of beating maps.
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>>14426167
This, I got three or four of them while powerleveling Ayanami, Jintsuu and Hatsushimo to K2 before the event.
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>16k fuel
>116 buckets
>have Graf and Akiduki
Will I be able to get Prinz? Will I be able to clear this event?
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>>14426162

I got Souryuu twice in a row doing 2-5 today.
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>>14426181
I took 40 bucket on E-5 alone, so probably not.
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>>14426181
You can do both if you have average RNG luck and your fleet isn't shit. Assuming you get a good 15 buckets and 5-6k fuel per day for the rest of the event.
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>>14426199
>average RNG luck
I got Akizuki and Graf in just over 25 sorties each.

However, it took me 50+ tries to hard mode AV-Hime. I think average is the perfect way to descrive my luck
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>55 E-3 easy runs
>105 E-5 easy runs
>no Graf/Prinz/Akizuki
Alright, time for a 4th 甲 medal instead.
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>>14426229
>E-3
>E-5
>Graf/Prinz
Anon...
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>>14426229
>retards like this call themselves elites later on
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>>14426229

Posts like this show why memedals are memeaningless.
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>>14426234
E-4 of course.

>>14426241
>>14426252
Prinz will be back soon, but 甲 is eternal.
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>>14426252
A true TTK only needs the love of his girls
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Today is the day I make my last stand. After 235 attempts of E-4 M (Mostly on last dance medium) and getting jack shit I've decided to go all in. Either pudding drops today or my bauxite, currently at 15k, hits zero and Pudding remains at the bottom of the ocean. Wish me luck, gentlemen. On the plus side I can marry Kashima soon thanks to all this grinding..
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>>14426268
I wish you all the best anon, take my energy!
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>>14426259
>Prinz will be back soon, but 甲 is eternal.
>delaying a girls happiness and prolonging her suffering for a cold, heartless hunk of metal
And you call yourself a good TTK...
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I don't like where events are heading. Watch all event rewards be just equips, jelly donuts and medals. Then every ship becoming a drop, and no more ship clear rewards. The future looks grim.
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>>14426268
I'd wish you luck, but it's clear the gods of fortune despise you. Make amends for the life you've lived.
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>>14426280
It's not even a hunk of metal and nowhere as useful as a shipgirl.
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>>14426229
You trying to say that you started after fall 2014 and still got 4memedals?
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>>14426282
>Watch all event rewards be just equips
Not even good ones. 51cm and a FuMO makes this lot look like shit.
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>>14426292
No, I'm saying I skipped fall 2014 because it didn't reward a memedal.
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>>14426282
If they were smart, they would keep ship rewards so people will buy ship slots. If everyone is drop only, there is no reason to buy more since you might get her.
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>Let's level Kawakaze to farm Arashi on E-5!
>4-3
>J
>J
>J
>J
>J
>Well, maybe I'll try 5-1 instead.
>A
>A

Fuck this.
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>>14426296
Yeah, making Graf a drop while giving you only a sonar that can already be crafted and a Reppuu with a bunch of placebo stats as rewards was a real dick move.
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>>14426296
They're afraid of making another Shinden Kai I bet, so they just give us shit instead.
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>>14426316
Don't forget all the medals though. If I can escape the farm and clear these maps I'll be able to fully remodel Bisko.
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>>14426314

Why didn't you start leveling her a week and a half ago?
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When was the last time you had fun, and the game didn't feel like a chore?
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>>14426316
Zeppelin is pretty fucking bad so it's okay.
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>>14426326
This morning.
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>>14426323
He could have put her in his fleets for E1-3 and E4 farm and still used her on the final map
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>>14426326
Maybe a week ago, when I was clearing the event.
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>>14426326
After I unlocked the 4th fleet and got Yayoi back in the day.
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>>14426326
E-5 final run.
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>>14426326
When I just got a cat error while SS hime was still laughing.
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>>14426326
Steamrolling E-4 and E-5 after farming had its way with me.
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Can you only get Arashi if boss is un-debuffed? Going to give it another 100 buckets before I give up on her.
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>>14426326
I got Prinz yesterday, which is nice.
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Too sexy
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>>14426280
>>14426288
It's not only the medal, I can't continue doing this risking Hagikaze+Arashi and not getting anyone else either.
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>>14426360
What are the implications of this image?
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>>14426371
Then why only mention the medal and not them?
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>>14426326
When I got bored/mad at farming and jacked off to porn of the game instead
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>>14426376
Kashima gets lovingly fucked in the BDSM rape dungeon and then Katori gets even with TTK by lovingly funking HIM in the BDSM rape dungeon for stealing her riding crop.
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>>14426376
Training session.
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>>14426333
>>14426323
I cleared the event early on kuso mode, and I didn't think I'd ever want to visit E-5 again.

But now I've farmed Graf, Prinz and Ducky thanks to a ridiculous lucky streak, and thus I'm stuck with Arashi as the last ship that's interesting to farm - I could try for U-chan as well, but at 0.4% that seems like a way to waste the remainder of the event with nothing to show for it in the end.
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>>14426388
>bullying boats
DAME!
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>>14426388
I hope we get at least 1 Katori/Kashima doujin with ttk, I like Kashima but she's not Katori, I dont want to see her fade away so soon.
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>>14426396
What force is making her skirt defy gravity like that?
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>>14426400
No bongo, eat my asshole.
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>>14426403
It's too late. The little thunder Katori had was stolen pretty much immediately when Kashima was revealed.
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>>14426378
Because you would have responded with "time to go full kuso now" or something like that.

To be fair I visited Prinz Eugen's statue yesterday and asked her to forgive me.
I hope she visits me too one day.
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>>14426403
Katori is but a hollow shadow compared to Kashima
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>>14426424
I remember Katori went full meme too when she was first introduced. Kashima's hype will die soon.
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>>14426424
Katori wasn't as popular, I'd even say Katori's clothes were more popular than her.
The outfit was just waiting for the right girl to wear it.
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>>14426403

Katori is old and busted, Kashima is new hotness.
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>>14426440
Hardly anyone cared because Yuu/Ro overshadowed her too. Katori doesn't deserve this.
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>>14426458
Katori uniform strong.
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>>14426424
>>14426438
But why? I dont get it, is it cake bullying or what?
>no pantyhose
>smaller breasts
>yet another inmature kid
Outside her hair I dont see how can she be better. Did people expect pic related from Katori or what?
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>>14426360
Pixiv drawings > shit > Kashima's game CG
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>>14426482
Those breasts though. I can feel Parsley put more time into creating them than the rest of Kashima.
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>>14426436
That's the statue of Archduke Charles in front of the Hofburg Palace of Vienna. He was probably really confused as to why you asked him to forgive you.
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>>14426514
Really? It says fucking Prinz Eugen on the plaque.
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>>14426479
She doesn't have what makes Houshou or Ashigara special and megane is kind of unpopular already. She was also given darker colors, which is unpopular in itself when Kashima is much brighter compared to Katori. It sucks though, I really like Katori.
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Kashima is cute and deserves more cute fanart.
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>>14426514
Nameplate says Prinz Eugen (der Elde Ritter)
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>>14426559
I dont buy the megane upopular thing when Kirishima and Oh Yodo exists, but the rest kind of makes sense. I guess being bullying material or no personality are the things destined to be really popular, sucks to be me I guess.
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I want to bully Kashima in a variety of ways. Katori looks like she'd scold me, I was never into her.
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>tfw wont have 600+ free points next year
>tfw actually have to try to get in top 100 next year
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>>14426479
Even cakes have an expiry date. And Katori is past that
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>>14424287
So for android support, how easy is the whole vpn/bypassing shenanigans compared to PC?
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>>14426692
Just add alcohol and your cake will outlast you.
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>>14426718
We won't know till it's out.
But for android in general, it's not too rough bypassing region locked shit. It just depends on the game or app.
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>>14426615
To be fair, kirishima is part of a popular class and ooyodo pops up every time you open the quest menu
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What sin did I commit in my life to make RNG hate me?
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>>14426762
mansin?
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Nice.

>>14425099
Thanks for the heads up.
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>>14426806
>l-look at me I can sortie to 3-2-A
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187 S-Ranks, 2 Libeccio, 2 Roma and 3 Akitsumaru later. I'm not sure if I should just finish the event now and let my sanity recuperate or be greedy and try to farm Graf too.
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>>14426827
Graf has a higher drop rate and the node is easier.
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>>14426806
Every time I see Chitose up there I shed a tear of happiness, I hope he lives a long and happy life with her.
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>>14426825
>3-2A
More like 5-4.
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>>14426832

>the node is easier.

M is a joke
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>>14426857
O is too.
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>>14426857
On M there is a chance on failing.
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>>14426861
>>14426868
>purinshitters trying to justify their newfaggotry
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>>14426868

Only if you're using suijou like a retard.
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>>14426882
Nigger please.
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>>14426894
YOOOO where did you get that Asagumo mate
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>>14426900
Pick her up during the catbombs
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>>14426900
Kon E-2 boss drop.
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what does that mean?
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>>14426912
Go to sleep.
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>>14426855
>lv117
>5-4
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>hurr I know I'll do the world 4 weekly

Fuck these fucking fairies, I don't need Akatsuki 5-1 in my log forever anyway.
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>>14426915

What are you talking about?
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>>14426882
Pls.
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>>14426921
Fuck that quest and those brown haired bitches, they are taking up valuable space which belongs to the new Yuugumos.
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This game made me realize that the source of all suffering in life comes from hope.
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>>14426921
I have never done the world 4 weekly and the other quests give me enough screws that I don't need to.
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>>14426932
>Christmas Cake
>Kaga

Ew
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>>14426894

>0.00000001% drop from 1-6

th-thanks tanaka
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>>14426958
Don't worry, you'll acquire good taste one day.
They've been with me since the very beginning, always performing splendidly.
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>>14426944
But if you weren't suffering, you'd have no need for hope in the first place.
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If she doesn't stop dropping from my Maruyu farming, I'm going to lose it.
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194th run is the charm!

Kashima probably must have enjoyed my suffering because she went from 1 to 73 purely on E-4 runs.
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>>14426989
disagree with X != X is bait
Please don't post images you don't understand.
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>>14427014
Next time don't claim you have "good taste" for marrying one of the blandest ships in the game.
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>>14427023
You just never cared to know her better.
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>>14427002
What is Maruyu even good for? Armor modernization?
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>>14427037
Yes. Best scrap/modernization ratio.
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>>14427037
To show your love for someone else.
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>>14427037
Baiting Kiso into sex.
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>>14427037
How new are you?
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>>14427112
New enough that I have yet to get more than one Reppu from construction and have a grand total of 3 type 22 radars
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The event burnt me out, I don't want to do anything.
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HA HA HA HA
NOW I CAN LEAVE THIS GODFORSAKEN MAP
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>>14427124
Not bad, I had to go through the entirety of Spring with just Type 52 fighters. I don't even think I had DD radars by then.

Maruyu is used for luck modernization.
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>>14427124
trigger warning: spoonfeeding
Maruyu Kai increases a ship's luck by 1.2 via modernization, rounded down
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>>14427147
Wrong.
Maruyu increases luck by 1.2
Maruyu Kai by 1.6
1.2 means there's 20% chance of 2 increase and 80% chance of 1 increase.
1.6 means there's 60% chance of 2 increase and 40% chance of 1 increase.

Standard practice is feeding a girl a batch of five Maruyu Kai (5*1.6) to get guaranteed 8.
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>>14427140
>>14427147
th-thanks for answering
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>>14427167
My bad, it was from memory and I've only ever gotten 7
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I am trying to farm Graf on E-4 normal and my ass is being kicked before I even reach the boss. I'm running a surface fleet of CL 3FBB 2CVL + 2DD1CL3CLT.

What am I doing wrong? I copied the farming comp that one of the nips posted.
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>>14427290
It can't be helped, Wo Kai says hello. Replace one of the FBB with AACI Maya
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>>14427300
Was copying this.
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>>14427309
That is for easy farming
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>>14427315
my bad keks
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Anyone compiling a list of ship lost for Fall 2015? These are always my favourite.
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150 buckets before I got Graf. Hard mode farming is truly the proper way of farming for any of these girls.
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>>14427356
I'm at 400 and still no arashi m8.
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>>14427351
People are getting smarter and less bold, so it happens less often.
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What's the prime setup for a sub-Kai Ni CLT? Ko-Hyoteki and OTO?
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I've got ~30 S on M and I haven't gotten a single rare drop. I'm running out of resources, so should I give up? I still have 400 buckets but not much fuel and ammo. I wanted to get akitsu maru because I don't have her. The only rare drop I got was tokitsukaze and I would rather get important ships than trophy destroyers. When I do O instead of N I spend fewer resources and don't take as much damage.
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>>14427386
Take a few days off and do fuel expeditions, I didn't give up after 60 runs with no fuel and buckets. I've gotten every rare drop but prinz. We'll get her someday ;-;
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>>14427386
Just move on.
Remember, memedal is a limited commodity while pudding will come back in 3months time.
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>>14427417
>commodity
?
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>>14427378
You mean just regular kai? Midget sub and another torpedo. You can't do anything with 2 slots.
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>>14427424

>not being nip enough to consume your memedals for emergency fuel
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>>14427424
It's just someone trying to push the meme medal's meme status even further. It's hardly a commodity when nobody even cashes it in for the resources.
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>>14427424
It's as important as shitty event/ranking rewards in terms of availability.
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>>14427416

Just how much can someone earn in a day of orel and expeditions? I imagine with 3/5/21 and several hours of orel that I could net at least a couple thousand fuel and ammo.

>>14427417

I was gonna clear it on medium, just not yet. I wanted shoukaku kai ni and I only need 1 more medal.
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>>14427448
The number is eternal in the PVP And ranking screen.
Nobody will know if you have pudding virginity status or not.
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>>14427437
>It's hardly a commodity when nobody even cashes it in for the resources.
I'm on the verge of cashing in my medals for more zep-farming fuel, desu senpai
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>>14427455
You should care more about the actual ranking number anyway.
Pudding is too cute to not get.
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>>14427455
That would matter if the friend system wasn't on permanent hiatus.
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>>14427472
The android version is coming and will bring the friend system along.
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>>14426229
>E-5 easy
You asked for it.

>>14426921
>Akatsuki 5-1
What new quest is that?

>>14427124
Reppuu

>>14427366
It still keeps happening though.

Anyone got the collages for spring and summer '15?
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>>14427484

>mfw everyone from /jp/ will laugh at me and my one memedal
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>>14427484
I can already see the honeypot the devs have hidden for the foreigners who use it.
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What are you guys using to reliably S-rank E5? I've tried a couple setups and the ratio of A to S is kind of half and half.
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>>14427502
If you can login during the TGS promo, you can login and play kancolle.
Failing it you can always use Qooapp. Tough luck for IOS users.
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>>14427503
>taking Abookmark to E-4
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>>14427520
It would be a good idea, a shame she was more useful in E-3, maybe its a dupe of him, who knows
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Anyone have experience farming E2 hard? Did you use boss support or manage to make do with just the fleet?
I'm trying for Amatsukaze but I'm getting A ranks with DA being too weak without crits and cut-ins failing to activate. Don't know if boss support would help because the trash is all dead by night battle, it's just killing her that fails. Yasen plane never seems to activate on the boss node either.
>>
Did Nishimura ttk ever clear E-4?
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>>14426458
Her outfit really is quite something.
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>>14427515
Top for debuffed, bottom for non-debuffed + support.
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>>14427537
Shit
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>>14427542

Arashi drops from A-ranks, don't worry about it too much.
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>>14427523
It would be better to farm 3-5.
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>>14427548
Yet she hasn't appeared in 90+ S ranks.
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Fuck all these Maruyu, where's Arashi?
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>>14427556
I wish I could get more than 1 Maruyu this time around. I got 6 in Spring, then suddenly 2 in Summer and 1 now.
>>
What's the fastest way to level up Maruyu? I have a set of 5 taking up too many ship slots and I don't want to buy more yet. I'm considering suiciding into 5-3 until they get to 20, but that would be over 20 losses per Maruyu.
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>>14427572
Unless you'd be going below 75% so I don't see why not do 5-3
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>>14427572
Sparkling can easily offset your losses, it's hard to even go below 95% win rate.
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THIS FUCKING WEEKLY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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if i want to play this game but i have no interest in any other ships except destroyers, can i reliably play it with dd fleets only disassembling all non-dd ships for resources?
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>>14427668
no
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>>14427668
Pure DD fleets are only useful for torpedo squadron maps (and even then you're forced to take a CL). You'll get nowhere if you use DDs all the time.
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>>14427668
It's near impossible, everyone has a role.
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>>14427668
The idea is to get over your shit, then raise and use stronger boats to fuel your love for loli.
It's hard, but it's worth it.
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>>14427668

'no'
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>>14427668
No, but destroyers are one of the most important and most used classes, so you will have lots of time to enjoy your destroyers. Destroyers are my favorite class too.
>>
>taiha
>taiha
>taiha
>taiha
Guess which map?
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>>14427770
Sounds like E-3 with Ta doing the hunting.
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>>14427668
You can bring a lot of them to a lot of places. If you can broaden your horizons a bit you can find a few DD-ish botes in other classes (like RJ!)
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>>14427779
I didnt even see the Ta in a long time, they are wrecking me the nodes before that too. Must be my punishment for getting Asashimo in a run, also dupe.
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>>14427451
2/5/21 is better, especially with sparkled 5 and 21. You gain resources at crazy rate. If you need steel, switch between 37 and 38.
Lv99 Ro-chan can do about 10-30 solo runs on Orel before dropping to taiha and they take her ~4 minutes each.
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>>14427615
Combine with 50 transport weekly and watch as you suddenly get routed to the boss all the time. I usually finish the 12 boss kills before the 50 transports are anywhere near done.
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>>14427542
It's better to put gun in first position for increased accuracy.
>>
Graf should have been the E-4 reward.
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>>14427807
And purinshit locked behind E-3 so they suffer more.
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>>14427523
Night scout won't activate when you don't have AS in day battle. Boss support helps. You can try aerial if you're worried about resources.
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>>14427770
5-4
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>>14427807
But then there would be no suffering.
>>14427810
E-3 Hard Boss Node S rank.
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>second whale

Ha ha, time to waste a blueprint!
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>>14427807
The twitter teaser images are usually map rewards, I was shocked when she was confirmed a drop.
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>>14427817
Wih dead end node if you bring overweight ships, only Mutsukis allowed.
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>>14427807
Tanaka is scum.
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>>14427826
Surprise Re preboss.
Line ahead.
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>>14427836
I mean, av hime is line ahead this time, it was diamond last time right? No wonder I keep getting fucked even with good support.
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Is the maruyu drop rate really 4% at E3 F on hard? And how to deal with morale.
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>>14427849
>how to deal with morale
get some cheerleaders
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>>14427849
Either swap ships around or just wait it out. You only need to swap the escort fleet and maybe the ones that carry Zuiun.
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>>14427851
>>14427855
Was stupid and locked like 7 DDs in E4 because I thought I was done. Guess I can take off expedition DDs though that fucks up the rotation.
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>>14427851
The ultimate cheerleader.
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>>14427851
If only. I'd send so many support expeditions to myself.
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>>14427866

literally who
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>>14427875
>literally
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>>14427870
That right leg
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>>14427879
baka desu senpai
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>>14427866
Underrrated daughteru.
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>>14427866
She deserves a Kai Ni because her base art is so awful.
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Haha, that's every single ship available at the boss except arashi.
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>>14427893

You could say this for pretty much everyone except yoshinori ships.
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>>14427897
>leaving mutsukis and nagaras out
Rude.
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>>14427866
>>14427891
>tfw I keep Ooshio around with all my Kagerous and Yuugumos long after I recycled my lesser DDs
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>>14427897
Also Fujikawa ships. He's had a good streak in designs except base Kinugasa, the twintails looked ugly.
>>
Getting connection timeouts to dmm.com ever since yesterday

Anyone else?
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>>14427920
I thought it was my net.
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>>14427920
Change your ISP.
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>tfw Nagamon double scratched at night

I've spent more on this than I did doing 4-5.
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>>14427920
Are you on Time Warner?
>>
>>14427938
Singaporean here

>>14427939
What, really?
>>
>>14427941
Is that 5-1? You need CL as flagship.
>>
>>14427946
Starhub?
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>>14427948
That's clearly not the problem he's having.
>>
>>14427948

No you don't, where did you get that idea?
>>
>>14427949
Yep

Was working fine till uh, 2am yesterday?
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>>14427948
Wait, never mind.
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>>14427954
My net just died randomly in intervals for the past few days. Fuck them.
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>>14427954
Maybe they're fixing it. Just wait a bit more.
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>>14427615
Me too, this sucks.
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>>14427960
>>14427963
Welp, here's my kcv. Started lagging pretty badly and then it just completely flopped

Dmm.com is real laggy for me somehow too. Playable in chrome with a dirent link though
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>>14427994
Try using a VPN
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>>14427994
Dunno. In Thailand, it works just fine.
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>>14428000
>>14428006

Nevermind, this is what chrome looks like

Experiencing some lag to other japanese sites too

Maybe some undersea cable broke, or some new stupid censorship crap is underway

First picture is the site with the bottom thumbnails not loading, played fine for 2 minutes before catting, next 2 pictures are futaba boards. Thumbnails are messed up
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>>14428012
Where did you get the catalog script for futaba? Tried finding one with no luck here.
>>
i sank my harusame i think i'm done with this game and with life

best of luck ttk
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>>14428024
RIP in peace
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>>14428024
Rip-diddly. Now go kill yourself.
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>>14428022
Click on these
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>>14428024
You know what to do.
>>
>>14428024
No TTK, you must bravely soldier on in her memory. anything else is a complete disgrace.
>>
>>14428024
Go rescue her from E-5 and level her all the way back up.
Running away won't erase your sin.
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>>14428024
Try to find the spirit of your shipfu.
>>
>>14428036
>futaba.php?mode=cat
Ayy this is what I get for not looking at the url of every link of the site, thanks.
Any idea if there's anything else out there to enhance it? Like larger images, reading the op, etc.
>>
So should I be maxing out a second 90mm gun for Maya?
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>>14428062
Yes, I don't think you need more than 2 anyway.
>>
>>14428062
I dont think it makes too much sense, maxing out a 203mm(3) gun sounds like the better plan. If you want to max "free guns" they are better spent on 356mm doubles.
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>>14427941

>it keeps happening
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>>14428089
Stellar taste in ships though, beautiful flagship and toppest tier CAs.
>>
>>14428089
2 guns 2 bulges, you idiot
>>
>>14428094
>CAs
I would change Chokeguro for someone else, but I understand that he needs daytime monsters tough, Im doing the same for E-3, rng gonna rng anyway.
>>
>>14428012
Eh, you are not the only one.
I am having problem with connection to nip sites too since last night.
Nicolive was totally unwatchable for me since yesterday and I couldn't load any picture from futaba at all. DMM works too although slow.

Where are you from? SEA? I am playing from MY
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>>14428126
Just take a break and do it tomorrow. Or the next day. Or maybe even the next day, it is a monthly after all.
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>>14427941
>>14428089

>so frazzled I can't remember the image
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>>14427994
>>14428012
>have free day to finish the event and farm girls
>this happen
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>2 extra firepower is placebo
I wonder if the firepower increases with double chevron, wouldnt that make it the best fighter?
>>
>>14428135
Down the causeway. I like your malls, food is great and affordable

ANd your chicks are way cuter, fuck
>>
>>14428053
http://dec.2chan.net/60/futaba.php?mode=catset
Not a lot of options though.
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>>14427941
>>14428089
>>14428138

That's it, you useless cunts are going on the bench.
>>
>>14428153
There are only 5 anyway
new, old, descending and ascending post count and bump order

At least it is better than 4chan where there is no such option unless you use greasemonkey.
>>
>>14428157
Take another BBV. Always works like a charm for me.
>>
>E-3F on easy
>2nd Maruyu
Oh that's pretty nice. Can I have Hatsukaze now?
>>
>>14428012
>>14428135
Flipfag here. Undersea cable broke that APCVN something I forgot the exact name. Mainly affects my connection on Western sites though where it frequently times out but smooth, if not quite slow, sailing for nip sites
>>
Fucking red T ruining my shit.
>>
The one time I decide to buy slots stupid site won't accept my card. This is bull
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They tried so hard.
>>
>>14428169
I'm going to use a vpn huh

Any ideas on a good one?
>>
>>14428187
Better hope you get it next time before flagship Ru is thrown into the equation. Not that it really matters too much though.
>>
>>14428187
>using potatonami in a cute girl fleet
You asked for it.
>>
>>14428191
Won't really recommend that though. Too risky.
Have you tried changing DNS? Everytime that goddamn APCN2 cable breaks, our ISP puts every user on selective browsing which mainly affects connection Western sites. If DNS can't at least mitigate it, VPN may but then again I'm not really well versed in technical details like this so I just wait it out.
You can try SoftEther though for public VPNs if you want. Private VPNs are mostly paid.
>green T taihas my KTKM on E4 first sub node as I type
I just want to get off this ride
>>
>>14427941
>>14428089
>>14428126
>>14428138
>>14428157
Try 1 BB 2 BBV 2 CAV 1 CL. Works for me every time.

Put 2 zuiuns on each of the BBVs' and CAVs' 3rd and 4th slots.
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>>14427941
>>14428089
>>14428138
>>14428157

Goodbye TTKs, I'm going to go kill myself now.
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>>14428209
Meanwhile on Buin
Bm4 clear, 1 run.
pic and filename related.
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>>14428216
>Yuubari flagship
That's a first.
>>
>>14428216
Melon a cute.
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>>14428223
Not him but it's the most logical place to put her. Flagship protection might occasionally save her from blowing up, and if the trollsub appears in the boss node she will attack first in second shelling phase making sure that it's dead before your BBV get their second attack.
>>
>>14428223
>>14428227
>>14428230
Ooyodo is already 99, so i'm using Yuubari for everything instead.
Who doesn't run CL flag for surface monthlies with subs? It's like asking to get fucked in the ass without lube.
>>
>>14428205
Not sure what that means, but uh what does that DNS thing do again?

Googled it but it doesn't really make sense
>>
>>14428230
>>14428241
I dunno, I always S rank the boss node when I get there.

Even if the trollsub appears I usually get the job done at night anyway.
>>
>>14428242
Open DNS or Google DNS.
>>
MIZUHOOOOOOOOOOO
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Makigumo saves the day again, the monthly is very annoying though.
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>>14428278
She's next on my list of DDs to level. Glad I picked her up somewhere
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>>14428268
Someday I will get her, took a small break because I entered taihacolle modo, hoping for slghty better luck now.
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>>14428268
I'm seriously considering doing that one thing some artists did where they drew the girl they wanted the most.
Maybe Mizuho will see it and come to compliment me.
>>
>>14428268

mizuwho?
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>>14428268
I like her cowbell.
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Not the ship girl I was expecting. Honestly, I shouldn't complain.

So far.
>Yukikaze
>Roma

Still farming for Prinz tho senpai.
>>
>>14428268
CHIKUMAAAAAA
>>
>>14428354
>that face
Should have spoilered it.
>>
>>14428354

>saggy tits
>>
>>14428366
certain shitbafu girl has saggy tits in one of his drawings too but i dont see people complaining about it, strange dont you think
>>
What other placebo methods can I take for Arashi to drop besides masturbation? Watch NNB?
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>>14428379
>complaining about shit art of a well-drawn and well-liked girl
>vs complaining about shit art of a potato
>no difference
C'mon, b8 harder.
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>>14428392
I don't even know why the Kagerous look like those girls. When people started to point it out, I could not unsee it.
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>>14428401

monkeyman has good taste in anime
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>still can't connect to the game
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>>14428392
Go online and play an MMO. Start a group boss and then grab the boss's agro and bring it over to your squishy DPS dealers. If that doesn't work I don't know what will.
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>>14428392
Yes, get to it. Better rewatch the shinkansen and tokyo tower episode.
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>>14428409

RIP in peace anon
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>>14428428
Why today of all days?
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>>14428439
Checked my ISP's connection page and realized it was a complete mess

Terrible ping to US servers apparently, but wow the japanese servers are laggy as hell too
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>>14428447
Yeah, there goes my sparkles.
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Well fuck you too
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>>14428458
Oh, I just catted out too. Starhub?
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Who tought the transport fleet was a good idea? I dont even remember the last time I saw the boss.
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>>14428392
I'm on the same boat brother. No pun intended.
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>>14428469

>Who tought the transport fleet was a good idea?
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>>14428469
Historical purposes friend. Gotta make Japan the war winner in an alternate history :)
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>>14428392
How many Maruyu do you have? so far 65 S rank, still no Arashi but 6 Maruyu
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>>14428478
Looks like a great spot to farm maruyus
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>>14428483
>night battle nodes
I don't hate my buckets that much.
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>>14428483
Unless you want Arashi, E-3F is better if you cleared on hard. I mean unless you're a masochist and enjoy having the Ha-class cut-in fest
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>>14428268
>>14428290
There.
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>>14428487
E-5 is better since you get 3gou and 41cm too.
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>>14428513
Shit nigga, that's not half bad. Hope it brings you the good luck.
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>>14428513
Damn that looks pretty good, Im out of energy today, too much taiha bullshit for now, Ill continue after I get some sleep, godspeed anon.
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>>14428513

looks good anon, good luck
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>>14428513
She looks like a pancake.
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>>14428524
>>14428532
>>14428538
Thanks. You guys, too.
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Submarine Princess has got to be the easiest hime in a while. Knowing I'll be able to S-Rank her node 99% of the time without night battle makes farming for Graf a little more manageable.
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>>14428513
Cheeks look pinch-able
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>>14428591
Would breed with this potato.
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>>14428594
Can you handle the demon of the solomon sea?
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Holy fuck. I just want to fap to a nice and cute Shimakaze doujin, but literally every one I come across is futa, crossdressing, rape or a mix of all three.

What the hell Japan?
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>>14428623
The memes went too far.
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>>14428623
You can pick either the Futa Atago one or the Futa Takao one
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>>14428623
Just fap to Isowind.
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>>14428635
Futa Takao
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>>14428623
We didnt even get a good ass play doujin with female Shimakaze
>cvckland
>homoland
Nips why?
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>>14428644

Because anal is for fags.
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Need help for E4 hard final form:

Suijou

Kashima FS (FCF + ASW)
Haruna/Bismarck (2 reds, type 1 AP shell, plane)
Ooyodo/Yuubari (Full ASW)
Shoukaku (3 greens 1 blue, enough FP for AS at node I and boss node)

Isuzu/Bep/Ushio (Full ASW)
Maya (standard AACI setup with night scout)
Ooi/KTKM (Ko-hyoteki + ASW)

I've entered the boss with only 1 chuuha and I just get wiped. All of my girls have only ever done scratch damage to SS hime or misses and I have no idea why. The other sub goes down fine, it dies in 1-2 hits. Should I run the debuff nodes once? I've also used Kiso in E123 already but even if she was here it doesn't change the fact that unscathed full ASW ships can't even touch SS hime in her final form when they were killing her in daytime before.
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>>14428684
If you have not debuffed, you better do it. Taking no Saiun is just begging for red T at the boss too, so you decide if you want to gamble it.
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>>14428692
Forgot to mention I've had horrendous wipes even in doukousen, not a single red T so far. I guess I really have to debuff then, fuck.
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>>14428684
>Maya (standard AACI setup with night scout)

That's where you fucked up. Get rid of her and move Ooyodo or Yuubari to your escort fleet.

If your sonars are shit and not even improved, listen to >>14428692
If not, you'll be able to bruteforce it.
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>>14428623
There is like, one non-dicked Shimakaze doujin but her admiral is such a pritz.
The poor girl just wanted to have a lovey dovey relationship with him, but she ends up getting blackmailed by the manipulative shithead into becoming a sex slave.

Fuck you, nips. I can't like this.
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>>14428702
>>14428706
There's no reason not to debuff even if you own the best sonars in the game. It's not that difficult or expensive to do.
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Is echelon still the best for yasen?
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>>14428749
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What do I do with a dupe Libeccio? I already got her last event.
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>>14428724
Sure, but you didn't take extreme laziness into account. I didn't debuff her because I was too lazy to change equipment. She exploded on my second attempt so it was okay.
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>>14428767
Marry.
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Is it better to have a CAV or a CLT for E-5?
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Shigure cut-in couldn't kill the last PT.

Why is this allowed?
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>>14428808
Because Shigure is bigger choker than Fubuki.
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I'm starting to suspect that Taitei-chan doesn't lose ranks even if completely shot down, can someone verify?

>>14428767
Just farm her gun.
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>>14427941
>>14428089
>>14428126
>>14428138
>>14428157
>>14428209
And meanwhile I perfect S 5-1 in one shot without even trying. And at hankousen, at that.
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Shinkansen
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Took 56 S-ranks at easy, didn't even count all those A-ranks and worse.
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>>14428834
I'm nearly double your S ranks on hard and she still wont drop. Why is this game so cruel?
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>>14428808
Because DA is better when handling PTs
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>>14428834
>>14428837
During your time suffering in E-5, did you guys see Harusame on the yasen nodes? I kinda want to go back to get her, but if she's a pain to farm I don't know if it's something I want to do.
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>>14428230
>>14428241
I prefer having BB at top so that second shelling can start with 51cm AP cut-in. I'm using Ooyodo though, she can take a hit or two unlike Melon.
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>>14428928
Nope, you should've saved her last event.
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>>14428928
got her from preboss yasen node
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>>14428966
I spent all of my post-event farming fruitlessly going after Mizuho. I regret it, I could have saved someone with all of that effort.

>>14428967
Do you recall if it was S rank or not?
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>>14428928
Approaching 70 S-Ranks J/L node. The closest I got were her sisters.
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Do you sparkle for E5, /jp/?
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>>14428983
No.
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So for BBs in support expeditions do you go 46cm x2, AP shell, radar or 46cm x3, radar?
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>>14429000
46cm x2, radar x2
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>>14429004
Too weak for my taste. I like to account for hankousen which happens way too often.
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>>14428865
Not really. On DDs torp cut-in is the msot effective.
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>>14428969
Just checked my sortie history, its from S rank node L
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>>14428969
She had higher drop rate than Umikaze and Kazagumo.
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>>14429015
No setup is perfect, but from my experience 2 guns and 2 radars is the most reliable.
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Blueprint time.
Now I have 2. Who should have it?
Shoukaku
Unryuu
Yamashiro
Choukai
Italian-sisters
Katsuragi
Taigei
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>>14429044
Taigei
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>>14429044
Shoukaku and Yamashiro.
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>>14429044
If you want a practical and purely pragmatic answer, Shoukaku and Yamashiro followed by Unryuu (for SCAMP), Italians and Choukai in that order. Everything else is just pointless fluff.
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>>14429048
>>14429074
The problem is I kai2'd Fusou and Zuikaku already.
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>>14429100
Just do it anyway. The others are still even more useless.
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>>14429100
And how is that a problem? I'm telling you to choose Shoukaku and Yamashiro precisely because you have Zuikaku and Fusou already.
Don't you want good eq and being able to sail smoothly on 5-1 monthly unlike the anon from few hours ago?
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>>14429024
My DDs reliably killed these PTs with DAs on good rolls. They still miss from time to time but it's not that bad.
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>>14429115
My DDs with +4/+9 guns fail to kill PTs more often than not with day attacks or night double attacks. When torp cut-in procs, it's a kill ~80% of the time. Are you using any placebo eq?
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>>14429125
Just +4 12.7cm Bs and that improved 12.7cm HA. They can't kill a PT outright on day battle (it's my CLs/CLTs who often do) but on night it's a bit easier for them to do so. I'd say it's about 60-40 when killing them with DAs
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>>14429102
>>14429108
Got it. I just confused.
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Any good Kidou setup for E4 Graf farming? Not like I'm having problems with Suijou but I'd like a cheaper alternative.
And I hate Takoyaki Wo randomly critting someone on AS
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>>14429183
Oh and I'm doing it on Medium
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>>14429175
No probem. To explain things in more detail:

Choukai is just a bit stronger than Haguro and the only eq you really want from her is the radar - but you get the same one from Myoukou K2 quest and for 2-5 monthly, T33 is better anyway.

Unryuu gives Reppuu 601 and SCAMP but having both Cranes gives much better T53 Iwamaoto and SCAMP is just something nice to have, definitely not essential.

Pastas are strong but they're very expensive and in vast majority of situations Kongous do the job just as well. In reality, OTO is better argument than their stats.

Katsuragi's main purpose is making 5-4 cheaper.

Ryuuhou is super cute but so is Taigei, you can take your time with her.
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>>14429206
It's actually Unryuu eq. that made me confused.
Thanks for providing the detailed explanation.
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>>14429183
>Medium
Why not easy? In any case I used 2CT/2CV/2CVL 1CL/2DD/3CLT to farm easy with 100% s-rank every time I reached the boss. I used a similar setup (change 2CT for Kamo+SS, change 2CLT for 2CA) to farm Prinz on medium and it worked fine too, but Wo will still occasionally crit you if she feels like it. Reaching the boss should't be a problem but I'm not sure if this setup can deal with the stronger escort subs, you have ammo penalty at boss node unlike suijou.
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Arashi please drop
Buckets, sanity and tears
I have almost none
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>>14429251
Locked already at medium. I'm worried about my escort fleet going in first since they're my insurance if the sub is still alive at the end of night battle. Also confused as to where to put my the bulk of my ASW; escort or main.
I'm ready to burn all 400 buckets of mine remaining but at least I'd like to have my resources still intact as Suijou drains fuel, ammo and steel like crazy although they're quite cheap on bucket usage; 4 buckets is the maximum I got and averaging 2 buckets per boss run
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>>14429183
If your fleet can guarantee S rank at boss node then it's fine. A random RNG shot is inevitable for kidoubutai,1 so Maya AACI is a must for a chance to prevent RNG rolls.
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>>14429272
Piss easy for Suijou actually, no sweat unless preboss node someone gets taiha'd by that nuke sub or Wo if Maya chokes. Hell my Suijou can sometimes wrap up the boss node without ever going to yasen if it gets good rolls otherwise it's mostly Wo or Dyson plus the sub left.
It's just that it's pretty heavy on resources, not so much on buckets though as at most I get to use only one to two buckets, 4 if my fleet gets fucked by bad rolls.
I just wanted a cheaper alternative in Kidou with more or less the same efficacy my current Suijou gives in killing the boss
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>>14429271
>I'm worried about my escort fleet going in first since they're my insurance if the sub is still alive at the end of night battle. Also confused as to where to put my the bulk of my ASW; escort or main.
The point of kidou was to kill boss during day and finish BB Hime in night. Set up CLTs with DA and CL/2DD with ASW, ideally you want them to clear escorts so the 2 CTs and 2 CVL in the main fleet can pound the boss. Put your torp bombers with stronger ASW on the CVLs and put more green planes on the CVs. CT have 4 slots for ASW so they should rape the boss pretty hard if they don't miss. If you want to be extra sure you can convert one CLT to ASW, between them the other 2 CLT should easily finish what's left of BB Hime at night. If you have quality torp bombers half the time your CV(L)s will crit her to death anyway.
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>>14429289
So ASW is spread evenly on both fleets huh? Guess the problem would be having the escorts reach the boss node intact as of course they'd go first in clearing the pre-boss nodes. Katori doesn't have her armor maxed too and Kashima is un-remodeled so they can be a liability too. Might bring Maya for AACI too just to reduce the chances of Wo ever critting someone.
If I still find Suijou to be more effective despite the costs then I'll just stick to Suijou.
Thanks, will give that composition a try.
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>>14429287
So be it. To add up with others anons' advice, just deal with the fact that bad RNG from Wo and nuke subs can always send you back. Suijo have more survivability against Wo since BBs has thick armor.
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>>14429313
I'll just experiment and juggle whichever the two have the most boss killing potential with regards to their costs in running them. Thanks for all the advices.
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>>14429309
>Guess the problem would be having the escorts reach the boss node intact as of course they'd go first in clearing the pre-boss nodes.
It wasn't a problem on easy because CLT with no ASW one shots those trash subs. I wouldn't recommend AACI because it reduces your boss node clearing effectiveness and you have AS+ anyway. I farmed Prinz on medium with no AACIs and I was forced to retreat only once in a blue moon.
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>>14429206
>T33 is better anyway.
In what universe? T22kai4 is a mini T32 that even destroyers can use.
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>>14429328
CLTs can? Though I did notice mine on medium can too, unless it's hankousen where they can just shoot it to red or miss completely if on a bad roll. Alright then the CLT stays thanks.
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12 buckets left and I can't even get Tokitsukaze on E-4.
I am a kuso
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Still can't connect to the game. Maybe tomorrow
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>>14429342
At least you can still play. It's been hours and I'm still looking at Fubuki's body parts.
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>>14429342
You will never hear her screams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDB5zxSrgQ
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>>14429309
Here how you should run it.
Short range CL is more desirable in escort fleet since the CLT will attack first and kill the trash subs. Run 1 AACI DD in the 2nd slot since if you use FCF she will be the one that tow your boat home.
Theoretically if your CLT kill both the trash subs, it is an easy S rank since your carriers will have an easy target practice and your training boats wouldn't even get a chance to attack.
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>>14429350
May tomorrow be a good day.
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>>14429331
T33 gives +7 LoS, T22K4 gives only +5. Notice I was talking about the 2-5 monthly.
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>>14429351
>>14429355
If you're on SEA, it's the peak hours and with that APCN2 cable break, the speed is going to get really horrendous
>>14429357
That's on easy though. Might be a different story on medium. Nonetheless will give it a try but I'll go back using Suijou if the runs end up unsatisfactory.
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So for anyone who made the large searchlight, how much stronger is the aggro on that thing? Is it worth making?
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>>14429350
I'm having the same issue now, I'm not a SEA anon though. Normal browsing is fine, other japanese sites too, it's just dmm that craps itself.
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>>14429341
CLTs have better ASW stats than all the DDs and better than most of CLs.
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>>14429366
If CLT can't 1shot the trash subs, you are going to need to sacrifice 1 double attack I guess.
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>>14429369
It isn't a regional thing. Other ISPs in my country have no issue accessing DMM or other sites

It's probably an ISP thing, specifically ISPs which are employing the problematic cables like the other dude said above
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>>14429355
I will buy buckets if I have to just for a few extra tries
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>>14429377
Most SEA ISPs use that cable though so a lot of users in the area can be affected. Don't know how long until they fix it since it occurred near midnight Nov. 27 and the longest I've endured so far was a month or so.
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>>14429382
>a month
Based on the Jan breakage, it's almost a month. It's also event time now, so it's like we're on a ticking time bomb.
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>>14429382
Well, my ISP had a maintenance of sorts yesterday morning and not the 27th, and that's when the problems started

Shit is hitting the fan on their facebook feed too, so yeah
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>>14429366
>>14429382
There's a SEA cable break? I thought that was a super fucking long time ago in January or something.
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>>14429386
Same problem with niconico. I think niconico is the one running their shit server through that shitty cable.
Other nip website like DMM and futaba is working fine today. KL here.
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>>14429388
Worst was during Dec 2013, Arpeggio event. Even torrents and KC was slow as fuck.
>>14429389
27th was the latest one. My ISP here don't usually announce these kind of things and it takes someone who knows a lot of people on the company to spread the news.
>>14429396
There was another one on the 27th. It's mostly covered on chink sites if you google it and set it within the past week. It's always that goddamn APCN2.
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>>14428644
http://exhentai.org/g/878800/97c611d5a7/
Uploaded literally 52 minutes before your post.
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>>14429404
Deleted my comment because I saw that the guy I was responding to wasn't from SEA but yeah DMM's kind of fine. There's still the occasional 10-20 second load time with kancolle though. I'm so glad I'm done with the event else I'd be pulling hairs out by the handful.
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>>14429407
>There was another one on the 27th
Well that's surprising, here in Singapore my connection has been perfectly fine for the past week.
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>>14429422
There has been multiple drops during the weekend for me. The game just decided to catbomb every time I'm at the pre-boss and I thought it was just my net.
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>>14429416
No actually, I'm from SEA

Still not done with the event too, so fuck me hard

>>14429422
It's starhub buddy
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>>14429366
>>14429382
>>14429389
>>14429396
>>14429407

Although in my case, KC aren't affected, some sites are awfully slow. Goddamnit, it's always those undersea cable breaks. It's always those fucking sharks mistaking those tubes for food or whatever.


being a third-worlder piece of shit sucks, how the fuck do I get out of here
>>
>>14429443
Does it really matter?
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>>14429447
Yes I need my boogeyman.
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>>14429422
>>14429428
>>14429429
It depends on where your ISPs route your traffic and where the break occurred. My connection with nip sites is fine but for Western sites it's horrible, even facebook can't load itself so the break must be somewhere near the vicinity of Singapore/Malaysia. That's what I observed everytime that APCN2 breaks which occurs almost yearly.

And looks like Kidou can kill the boss on day alone without even reaching closing torps. Must be on a good roll though the cost of running them was quite similar with Suijou. Might stick with this for a while.
The ASW damage was quite anemic though.
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>>14429441
KC and DMM*
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>>14429443
Probably >>14429440
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>>14429443
kcgfag is from burgerland m8
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>>14429454
I'm not talking about kcgfag he's obviously a native speaker. His problems lie elsewhere.
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>>14429443
SEA is preeeeetty huge, so there's a variety of 1st and 3rd world countries alike

Singapore, Malaysia and to an extent Thailand is pretty okay. Indonesia and Flipland on the other hand..
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>>14429450
Danbooru is taking quite awhile to load, but it wasn't as bad as entering DMM's netgame page. The DMM's main page is fine, but clicking on anything else brings up an error.

>>14429443
Most probably from /a/, where all the shitposters tend to go to. Some guy, or guys, took Raian's name to shitpost. He deserves it though.
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>>14429450
Hiryuu/Souryuu K2 are cheaper to run than Akagi/Kaga kai if you care about 10 fuel per run. I guess it does add up over a lot of runs though. Can't really help the ASW since ammo penalty is unavoidable.
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>>14429472
He's like Lelouch, except no trip.

At least he had good taste to marry Kisaragi.
>>
>>14429443
While SEA has its share of weeaboos and stuff like that, it's not like all of them are like those. Some are quite decent too.
>>14429464
Flip here. We have the biggest share of peenoise and weebs here but there are still decent ones out there. Just quite hard to find as they're not that really vocal.
>>14429466
Danbooru's fine for me though, if not quite slow. It's Western sites that refuse to load for me at all.
>>14429467
I'm just delighted to see them steamroll preboss nodes like it's nothing compared to Suijou which takes a while. Might go back to Suijou though since there's little difference but I think it's the bucket usage that makes me prefer Suijou more; it's a quite resilient if not rather resource hungry fleet.
>>
My Kashima is now level 80 from Prinz farming, when will this end, my friends?
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Post Eva fleets.
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>>14429422
Who's providing your Internet? Singtel? StarHub?
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>>14429482
What kind of Western sites? I'll try going there to see if the problem occurs for me.

>>14429488
Most probably Singtel, because Starhub has been dying on regular intervals for the past few days.
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>>14429443
Looking at /asean/ threads in /int/, there are probably as many of us speaking decent English as there are speaking broken English.
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>>14429488
I'm using Singtel.
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>>14429476
Uh no, unlike Lelouch who has no intention to play the game, he not only plays it, he even completed E7 hard.
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>>14429498
'fuck off'
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>>14429497
Same, and I don't have a problem either. Looks like the problem lies with StarHub.
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>>14429499
Lelouch didn't play the game, said a ton of crap and have shit taste. That's all kinds of wrong.

>>14429503
He does shitpost a ton and stopped after people called him out. He most probably removed his name unless something comes up, like events.
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Hey >>14429443

>>14429498
I found the fag that can't speak English for shit. Now tell me where you're from so I can ridicule your shitty people.
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>>14429492
This one for example takes a while to load, sometimes captcha fails to load completely forcing me to refresh. Some which have the same ISP as mine complained twitch was too slow. Facebook takes the cake as it refuses to load. Dunno with other specific sites but DMM, Pixiv, and Danbooru is quite fine, if not rather slow for me.
Though as I type the connection's getting rather stable which can occur at these times.
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>>14429515
Yeah, his shitposting is as bad. Though he's still miles better than Lelouch simply because he not only plays the game, he's also actually good at it.
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>>14429518
The exact opposite for me. Facebook and normie sites are fine

Pixiv, futaba and DMM are completely messed up
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>>14429518
4chan is working fine for me, as well as Facebook when I went to see if Starhub talked about the undersea cables, but apparently not.

Fuck them, these sort of important news should have been released but all they did on Facebook was tell people to reset their broadband or routers.

>>14429522
This I agree, which was why I said he had good taste, only because he married Kisaragi.

>>14429523
I have no idea, but because people knew him for his shitposting, those newfags went and use his name to do even more shitposting.
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Repu
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>>14429535
Can you not use cute boys to shitpost. I'm fapping to gyarus tonight, not traps
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>>14429535
You're calling a SEAfag an EOP. Take a second to process that in your microscopic brain. Also if a SEAfag can speak using proper intelligible English you have no excuse to be posting like the retard you are.
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>>14429545
Based
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>>14429526
Guess the break is somewhere near Malaysia/Singapore if you are from those areas. If Western sites for you is fine then it might be because you're being routed away from the break which is in a south-western direction. Since nip sites are up north-east, either you're being routed towards the break where speeds are limited, or you're being routed the long way. At least that's my suspicion.
>>14429531
Hell, my ISP doesn't even bother telling anything. All they're good at is shilling their shitty service and swift termination of services of those who still haven't paid their dues even if it's just a few days from the deadline
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>>14429548
Yeah. I'm watching dondo and friends throw it all away on twitch right now with absolutely zero lag

I start going for the kashima porn on pixiv and it lags to hell, failing to load thumbnails on half the pictures
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>>14429561
The shitposter is, and that's him.
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>>14429497
Huh. Using Singtel as well but my DMM is fucked.

Not playing KC though.
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>>14429560
Well you just have to endure it at the moment. There maybe times you'll get good connections but most of the time you won't as every time a cable breaks, speeds are limited especially if you're accessing a site where traffic is mostly routed towards the break. These things take at most a month to repair and I think 3 weeks was the fastest they did unless if by some miracle they manage to do it under 2 weeks.
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>>14428823
Same here anon.
First try too. This month starting out in a good way.
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>>14429577
Problem is my I'm not done with E5 yet

There's hope for me though, since I don't think it's the 27/11 cable on my side. My isp underwent some dumbass maintenance yesterday which likely caused issues on their backends

Other ISPs like >>14429567 this dude here access the game fine, so yeah
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>>14429579
Yeah. Mine was a daytime clear though.
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>>14429577
>no Arashi
>no memedal

Fuck.
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>>14429440
>>14429535
>>14429549
>>14429555
Quality posts. Can't speak English for shit, avatarfagging, greentexting, racism. Pure cancer.
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>>14429518
I wonder if it's really my ISP, Dmm only becomes extremely wonky when I try to get into a game, otherwise the site loads fine. No other problem sites either, not even niconico problems like the other anon has and niconico usually has a tendency to be the first site shitting on me if something goes awry.
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>>14429588
Just go to starbucks or cybercafe
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Too slow.
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>>14429597
I can't bring my desktop out and I don't have a laptop.
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>>14429602
This is why you put Yodo as the main fleet flagship and squishy Yuubari as the escort flagship, so when she gets taihad you can still advance.
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>>14429604
Tether and use mobile internet.

It is fucking 2015 and people still have no laptop?
Laptop nowadays are even cheaper than phone and tablet.
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>>14429602
My Yuubari never got Taiha'd though. Running Suijou too since Kidou is rather inconsistent in getting to the boss intact.
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>>14429610
I'm PCMR, enjoying my glorious 40-degrees with ultra settings on Witcher 3

Also laptops are hella expensive, or even customize
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>>14429602
Please don't bully the melon.
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I hate the first class medal symbol at the battle result screen appearing everytime. It reminds me of all the other medals I couldn't get from previous events.
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>>14429694
Eat it and you wont have that problem anymore.
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What formation is the best for sinking Sub Hime?
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>>14429759
asw
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>>14429759

What formation is the best for sinking a sub, anon?
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>>14429759
Diamond formation of course.
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>>14429759

Line ahead like a good Isokaze.
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>>14429775
>丙
Please. She basically kills herself.
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>>14429780

This was when I was farming Zep, without debuff.
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Easiest meme medal ever, and I even got Sakawa off the boss. Is this the future of kancolle? Events where the rewards are all drops and clearing final boss doesn't even give you screws anymore.
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>>14429784

This is fall event dude.
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>>14429788
It's always the same shit:
Winter (excluding Arpeggio):
>event too hard, fuck this game for autists
Spring:
>event too easy, fuck this game for casuals
Summer:
>event too hard, fuck this game for autists
Fall:
>event too easy, fuck this game for casuals

People will always complain, regardless of rewards, difficulty and new content. We'll always find a reason for complaining.
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>>14429798
Maybe they should start making balanced events.
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>>14429784
>>14429798
First few events (all those prior to AL/MI) can be discounted because devs weren't sure what difficulties to have for which events. However from AL/MI it's always been:
-Spring and Autumn are the easy events. Spring will be significantly larger than autumn.
-Winter will be much harder, but 50k resources will be more than enough to clear it.
-Summer is where all hell breaks loose. You'll be lucky to clear it with anything less than 300k.
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>>14429801
Winter and spring were pretty fun. The format they have now is fine. Easy during fall, regular during winter and spring, maddening during summer. They just need to get their shit together with the rewards matching the difficulty. Fucking summer had by far the worst reward to difficulty ratio to date. At least throw in a couple of 51cms for the hard mode reward damnit. I want my Mutsu to have a pair.
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For E4, should I give my DDs 1 gun, 1 WG and 1 radar or 2 guns and a WG in case the boss gets wrecked early and there's a PT still around?
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>>14429810
What are you smoking? This event was harder than Spring.
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Why does Hayasui cost so damn much to resupply?
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>>14429832
2 guns and WG. Double attack has better accuracy than single attack.
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>>14429864
Takes a lot of fuel to suck that fast, anon.
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>>14429804

>You'll be lucky to clear it with anything less than 300

You're exaggerating a little
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>>14429804
50k over whole event was enough to clear all hard and farm new ships. I sparkled my expeditions and did the quests though. Never fell to soft cap.
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I give up. I am in complete defeatism. This map is bullshit with such high chances of taiha at first and second node. No matter what I've done, Arashi will just not drop. Arashi has 4% drop chance yet I've gotten yahagi, sakawa, 3x noshiro and agano, 3 mikumas, shimakaze,yukikaze, kawakaze hamakaze nowaki 2mutsus and a nagato, all of which have a lower % than arashi. I've wasted 3 days and 700+ buckets with over 100 S+ and 200+ sorties and nothing.

Never have I felt so shit in my life, you win you piece of shit game.
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>>14429903
I can't even get in the game, let alone farm e5

Keep fighting anon
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>>14429903
How much sadder would you get if i said i got Arashi in the first farming run?
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>>14429903

AKIRAMENNAYO.mp4
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>>14429903
>This map is bullshit with such high chances of taiha at first and second node
What's the problem with the first node? It forced me to retreat once, maybe twice in ~50 sorties. There are only 3 dangerous DDs, the other ones are regular 1-1-A Chompies. Night battle nodes are quite balanced, but random taihas sure are annoying.

Don't worry about Arashi drop rates, she'll show up sooner or later.
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Mother fucker. After doing 150+ S-Ranks at E4's boss node and not receiving a single Graf, my CLTs keep getting Taiha'd at the directly preceding sub node.

They've been fucking up my runs for the last 20 or so attempts. For fucks sake, stop it please...
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>>14429950
Take a rest, anon.
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>>14429903
Congratulations, you're the 1%. Possibly even less, but I don't know how many A-ranks you've done.
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>>14429917
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>>14429972
It's better this way.
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>>14429975
N-no it isn't!
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>>14429972
Strange, mine too. Well, at least the sidebar ads are improving

Frickin starhub
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>>14429981
I got in a little, enough to maybe send an expedition. No idea if it went out though, because it catbombed before the animation.
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At this rate, I won't be seeing Yuu this event.
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>>14429985
Maybe Yuu'll get her next event
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>>14429985
Yuu don't deserve her.
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>>14429985
You don't farm for Yuu.
Either you're a lucky trash that get her during clear or Graf farm or never at all.
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>>14430011
Am I lucky trash if I got her while farming Graf but still don't have Graf?
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>>14430011
Why do I have to be in second group? My Ro-chan wants another FaT.
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>>14430011
I don't really have who else to farm for though, I got 5 other ships already.
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>>14430020
Yes, I would consider 200 runs for Graf while getting Yuu to be good luck.
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>>14430011
I got her from winter E-3.
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Guys fucking help me from Tanaka...180 S ranks no Prinz
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>>14430072
Should've joined earlier then.
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>>14430072
Made an offer.
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I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEE!
Guys! never give up hope!
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>>14430135
Fuck you.
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>>14430149
Hey, no need to be mad m8 It took me more than 119 sortie to get her.
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Well then.
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>>14430160
179 runs and counting.
With all due respect, go fuck yourself.
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>>14430186
Clam down a bit.
I even made around 200 sorties.





To get Prinz, Akizuki, Graf, and Arashi.
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Jesus fucking christ, 850 buckets + 3days bucket expds > 299 buckets until she finally dropped. My event is over.
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>>14430202
Are you the guy that gave up earlier?
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>>14430205
Yes, I said to myself i'd quit when I reached 300 buckets.
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>>14430202
Congrats!
Time to rest a bit, you deserve it.
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My megane bro.
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SIEG HEIL
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>>14430135
Thanks for the motivation, m8.
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>>14430202

It is just a fucking DD. You got winter to worry about.
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>>14430359
Not him, but winter is months away.
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>>14430359
Winter is months away.
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Too sexy, I can't even concentrate on farming anymore
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>>14430359
I could take on Winter in a week.
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Am I cool yet guys
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>>14430402
What's so cool in that picture?
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What the fuck is that? Konishi what the fuck man?
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>>14430429
MONKEY
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Guy using starhub here. Using ooi2 got me through to the game flawlessly on chrome/kcv
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>>14430429
>What the fuck is that?
It's Hacukaze.
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>>14430429
Hatsukaze is cute. She just has a deformed ear because Konishi is a faggot but that's fixed in all her non-existent fanart.

Why does no one like Hatsukaze? I haven't even seen anyone marry her outside those people who marry an entire class or everyone that reaches 99.
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>>14430541
Nobody has her.
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>>14430541
Too rare, no good stats and everyone that draws DesDiv16 replaces her with Shimakaze.
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>>14430544
But she has been around since forever and she drops every event.
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It's December 1st already. Why is Roma still dressed like a witch?
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>>14430553
I don't mind, it looks much better than her normal sprite.
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>>14430541

>drops from 3-4 of all maps

that would be why
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>>14430556
2 years ago 3-3 was where people went to get her. Even recently that was the thing, due to hishimochi and fish mini events.
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>>14430552
At some random node not many people farm and with low drop rate.

>>14430565
Never saw her on 3-3 despite 16 mochi and 30+ sanma there, not to mention weeklies.
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>>14430573
Just like people back then. Large amounts of runs on a map that isn't even an event map with no luck getting her.
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>>14430573
>>14430556
I meant in terms of events. For instance this time she dropped at E3, most of those people farming for Akizuki or Mizuho or Umikaze probably got her. Last time she dropped at E2, and so on. None of those are particularly hard to farm and she had decent droprates.
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under 20 runs for Graf.
under 40 runs for Eugen (with Diamond in the mix)
under 10 runs for Akizuki
3 runs for Arashi (of which 2 reached boss, drop on A rank)

That's some disgusting luck there.
Guess I need to go farm E-4 for U-chan after all.
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>>14430629
Fuck you, son
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>>14430629
Graf in 5
Arashi in 25
Still looking for Mizuho with 20+ S-ranks so I won't leave Chiyoda a AV forever.
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>>14430629
And I thought I was the one with obscene luck. Well done, lad.
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>>14430629
You call that good luck?

Akizuki in 9 S ranks.
Graf while clearing.
Yuu in 44 S ranks.
Prinz in 18 S ranks.
Arashi on A rank while fighting against the tanaka points.

I also got an Akashi, 6 Maruyu, a Roma and an Akitsumaru.

>>14430656
I got Mizuho while clearing but scrapped her because I already had her from the summer event.
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>>14430629
18 for Arashi
10 for Akizuki
Currently at 58 runs looking for Mizuho.

Was looking for Prinz Eugen but then I forgot how much I liked Mizuho over her and Graf. So I stopped looking and went after Mizuho.
I even drew Mizuho in ritual to summon her. I hope today's runs go well.
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>>14430629

>~30 runs for graf
>~120 runs for oigen
>skipped ducky to save for E-4
>Arashi while clearing

whatever
>>
I'm being trolled, right? Graf doesn't really drop, I think.
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All these lucky fucks around here.
>143 runs for Akizuki
>137 runs for Prinz
>24 S ranks so far for Zep
>haven't even cleared E-4

Send help?
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>>14430669
Go to hell.
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>>14430686
Farming for Ducky and Prinz is a trap, you fell into it.
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>>14430629
>10 runs for Graf
>gave up on Akizuki, dropped while clearing
>45 runs for Eugen with diamond in the mix
>Arashi while clearing
Pudding farming was exhausting but otherwise I'm pretty satisfied
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>>14430686
You will not get Zep and rush to clear the event on the last day, but you will have some sort of problem that will prevent you from playing for most of the day and you will be halfway through the E-5 HP bar when the event ends.
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>>14430698
Please no.
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>>14430629
>18 for Graf
>28 for Prinz, where run 1 was Libe, run 3 was army dog, run 5 was Roma
>32? for Akizuki
>12? more for Nagato, with two moles inbetween
Not as good as you, but bretty gud.
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I don't know if I should upgrade a lot at once or keep hoarding them.
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>>14430722
Upgrade a lot, but leave ~20-30 for emergency improvements.
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>>14430722
I left 15 for emergency upgrades.
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>>14430722

>tfw only 77 screws
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>>14430722
You could just upgrade stuff like Quints or Bisko guns beyond +6. You won't keep up with 4+ screws upgrades even if you do all the quests.
>>
Can I really construct Bismarck with any German flagship other than Z1?
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>>14430740
Yes but you still have to do the dumb expeditions, so don't bother.
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>>14430740
You need Z1 to unlock Bisko in LSC.
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>>14430740
Yeah, i did with Z3.
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>>14430740
Yes, I did it with Prinz
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>>14430629

40 runs no Graf
Have Eugen before event
Have Akizuki before event
Got Arashi during TP phase

Graf can wait, so are Roma and other trophy DDs. I got Kiyoshimo the cute BB though.
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>>14430740
You still need to do the expedition quests to get Z1. If you never had Z1 then no matter what German ship you use, you can't build Bismarck.
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I'm doomed
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>>14430761
>tfw got 3 Kiyoshimo in 20 runs
Not like this.
>>
>3 S ranks in a row
>try the map again a few hours later
>3 A ranks, either PT or boss or both still alive
>first few runs had DDs oneshotting heavy cruisers in the shelling phase, always reached the boss with scratch at best
>most recent runs have at least 4 ships chuuha by the time I reach her
Is there such a thing as timebased RNG? This has happened to me on almost every map
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>>14430736
>4+

Do you use the guaranteed slider? I just trust Akashi not to fuck them up and it has usually worked.
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>>14430786
>timebased RNG
Of course there is, LSC is proof of it.
>>
5-4 is so fast with CE
why didn't I use this earlier
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So I haven't played this game in a while, what are the meta decks now? I last played when 3x Reppuu and a tech Saiun was the deck but I heard that's too slow now
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>>14430786
On another game, a guy once gave me an explaination on how the RNG algorithms the japs used for this kind of game was debunked so it was affected by silly things such as time.

I forgot how it went and I don't know if he was for real though.
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>>14430793
Not using slider with Quints or 20.3 (X) is a huge risk. Bisko and Pasta guns take four screws after +6. 51cm take 5 screws since start. Upgrading 38cm to 38cm Kai is 13 screws.
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>>14430807
Nobody uses Reppuu anymore.
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>>14430807
3 reppuu 1 Murata is better now. Also sidedeck 1 SCAMP.
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>>14430722
>>14430726
I always wondered which types of equipment I should focus upgrading first
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>>14430831
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>>14430807
What are those anyway?
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All-in Anon here. My remaining 15k of bauxite is gone. After god knows how many runs of E-4 M medium last dance (At least 250+) I can safely say that pudding is a lie and it's all a big ruse. I give up. I can't take it anymore. I'm going to get my memedal then try to forget this nightmare ever happened. Good luck to anyone else farming.
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>>14430846
Should've joined the game earlier.
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>>14430839
Tools for entertainment
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>>14430848

I really should have. Alas the sign up process looked like a total clusterfuck so I never bothered until half a year ago.
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>>14430807
BB decks are old and busted, CV decks are the new hotness.

Shinden Kai is still banned though, DMM is not going to lift its ban any time soon.
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>>14430846
>E-4 M medium last dance

Why?
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>>14430836
This was the result of not having Akashi since my debut Spring 2014 to Summer 2015
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>>14430863

No diamond formation thus no lower drop chance. I'd rather take a "harder" kill for a guaranteed 2-3% rather than an easier kill with a chance of getting a 1.5%. Not that it really matters now in hindsight..
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>>14430807
x1 Iwamoto 53 x1 Fw190 x2 Murata is the new hotness.
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>>14430874
>Fw190
Placebo stats don't make it better than Reppuu Kai, it's just an upgraded Reppuu.
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>>14430877
Taking Reppuu Kai where a Fw190 fulfills the same AS requirement is absolutely pointless, anon.
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>Kinugasa dropped before Aoba
>fucking Taigei dropped before Aoba, from 5-2 no less
Please end this. I just want to do my monthlies, game.
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>>14430904
She'll drop eventually.
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>>14430904

Doesn't she drop from 3-2 A?
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>>14430904
Go do 5-4.
>>
Help, I'm being nuked by Hoppou.
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>>14430904

>not having Aoba

fucking how, she's the most common CA
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>>14430928
AOBA IS CUTE
CUTE
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>>14430958

dead artist, Kai ni NEVER EVER which is probably a good thing because who the fuck wants Mikawa 5-3
>>
2-3 or 2-2 to kill transports with minimal bucket loss?
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>>14430928
Kai Ni when? I had her ready before it was confirmed Kako would be getting the last CA kai ni.

Of course I'm still keeping her until the day.
>>
>>14430970
They can just give Yuubari the remodel, 5-3 isn't going anywhere.
>>
Fucking hell. I got Ducky on E-3 even though I had her at 150 already. No Umikaze, Mizuho or Asahimo in the 100+ runs after which I said fuck it.
Now after countless snails on E-4 I got Yuu. I have her at 140 already.
Where are the girls I'm actually farming for, /jp/?
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>>14430974
Both of those maps use 0 buckets if you rotate your ships. Hell even E3F uses 0 buckets unless you have absolutely no DDs for some reason.
Just pick based on whether you need bauxite or fuel more.
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>>14430995
>if you rotate your ships
2-2 it is then, I only have one set of subs.
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>>14430974

I use 2-3 with Taihou. She ignores the whole CV rule in that map and makes it a complete cakewalk. I'm not sure if Shoukagi or Zuikaku in CVB do too though.
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>>14431002
One set of six subs should manage all the dailies before going to chuuha if you sortie 3 at once.
Hell, few days ago I did all the dailies with Ro alone without having to repair her.
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>>14430994
I don't know man, I'm down on E1 farming for Hamakaze so I can farm E2 without getting shit on by the night battle node I haven't been playing that long or often, I've gotten all the rare drops except Hamakaze. Now there are only Aobas and Kumas.
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Fuck off, Mutsu
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How effective are SS for E-4 farming on medium?

Wiki has 3 (F)BB(V) 1 CA(V) 1 CV 1 SS + 2 CA 2 DD 1 CL 1 SS listed and since I have two subs at kai I figured it was worth a shot.
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>>14431076
These avatars are cancer.
And fuck off, lucky shitter.
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>>14431088
I know but since I'm not on windows and need some sort logging for the time being, this is the easiest way.
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>>14431076
>Yuu
[muffled REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in the distance]
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>>14431076
>KC3
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>>14431076
>kids choice award
What?
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>>14431094
It'll be glorious to kai her AGAIN
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>>14431101
I forgive you for getting her. Now, if I only I could too next event.

>>14431099
Oh wow.
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I love Kashima.
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>>14431099
KC3 kai has a "troll comments" setting for le danke memes
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>>14431099
Faggot has troll comments enabled in the plugin. It actually means kuso modo.
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>>14431076
>Yuu
I bet you don't even rank. Another Yuu wasted on trash.
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They said they'd let training cruisers provide exp bonuses outside of the flagship position, right?

Do Katori and Kashima's stack, then?
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>>14431109
>>14431111
Now I finally know what the fuck that button does.
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>>14431115
Yes.
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>>14431097
I use EO, used a few KCV forks and KC3 in the past and there's nothing really wrong with KC3 that I've found other than that it's a chrome plugin, but that actually allows it to be cross-platform so whatever
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本日【12/2(水)】より、全国のJOYSOUNDさんで加賀さんの唄う「加賀岬」の実装/配信がスタートします。よろしくどうぞ!また、来週【12/11(金)】から、秋葉原GiGOさんで一番カフェ「秋葉原泊地」先行展開第二弾を実施予定です。今回は季節限定クリスマス版です。

本日夜22:00から、NHKさんで給糧艦「間宮」を特集した番組が放送される模様です。素敵な給糧艦「間宮」の特集。当時の給糧艦や間宮羊羹などに興味のある提督方は、チェックされるとよいかもしれません!

本日夜22:00から、NHKさんで給糧艦「間宮」を特集した番組が放送される模様です。素敵な給糧艦「間宮」の特集。当時の給糧艦や間宮羊羹などに興味のある提督方は、チェックされるとよいかもしれません!
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Is anyone else keeping a blueprint in reserve in case Zepp gets a Zwei?
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>>14431199
Fucked up the last one.

「艦これ」次回の稼働全サーバ群共通メンテナンス&アップデートは、来週【12/7(月)】実施予定です。同メンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、家具屋さんのお品書きを「冬家具」に更新する予定です。気になる秋家具がある提督方は、次回メンテまでにチェックして頂けますと幸いです!
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>>14431204
No, but I always keep at least one in case they add a Kai Ni in the middle of the month.
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>>14431204
I'm gonna have nine medals after I do all the EOs. So, I guess?
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Should I go for Yuu?
I am bored of E4
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>>14431236
Go for Roma.
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Please free me from the hell that is E-3 hard. Hankousen and the Ta-class fuck my shit to the point where I'm using 8-10 buckets per run, and I've only S ranked the boss once since I started.
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The chance of not getting Prinz in 200 runs is 5%, maybe I should go play the lottery.
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>>14431283
It's 100% if you give up.
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>>14431331
This weary soul seeks solace from Tanaka's wild ride.

I used to laugh at the people who posted here who needed hundreds of runs, but now I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
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>>14431283
It is 100% if you started 1 year ago.
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>>14431356
Clear or burn everything farming for Prinz?
I just now reached E-4 after mass suffrage on E-2/3.
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>>14431384
She will be made available again so it is not the end of the world if you miss her this time around.
You already waited for her for a year, what is another 3months?
Memedal is eternal, once you missed one, they are gone forever.
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>>14429972
>>14429981
It's the opposite for me for some reason, kept getting those until like Nov 27 but stopped getting them after that.
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Man is there anything but Sendai and Naka at E5.
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>>14430541
Remember the guy who quit and sank his married ships during AL/MI? IIRC Hatsukaze was one of his married ships.
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>>14431473
Jintsuu and Kirishima.
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>>14431473
Jintsuu and Bongos
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>>14431473
Nagato
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>>14430553
Devs are slow.

>>14430565
3-3 doesn't give Hatsukaze.
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Who will you help first among Amatsukaze, Hatsukaze, and Asashimo?
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>>14431523
I have a dupe Asashimo, would gadly trade for dupe Mizuho.
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Help
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>>14431570
No.
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>>14431542
Just scrap the third Mizuho. Sorry.
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>>14431580
I only saw the boss 1 time and this was the result, I didnt even see her one time yesterday.
Also Sacchin is an angel.
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>>14431593
Sucks to stuck in nearly impossible to farm map.
Why you need her dupe anyway?
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>>14431599
dupe of yours*
I dont need a dupe, I never had her. Had to gave up memedal last event because I was running out of resources on E-4 to finish E-7 in time, and now she's back in line ahead. The good side is that Im only missing Mizuho and Arashi now, I stockpiled hard for this very reason.
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>>14431614
Hope you get her soon.
However, the fact that she appears again this event means you will have another chance in winter. Don't push yourself too hard.
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>24 runs of E4M today and no Prinz Eugen
Please, I've done at least 100 runs of this, I've gotten every rare drop from M node but Prinz Eugen. I won't even be able to resupply or repair my ships if I try to keep on going. Will I ever get her?
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Gonna try to debuff E-4, do I need an S rank to do it or just kill the boss?
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>>14431665
Prinz was pretty painless for me but now I'm feeling it on Graf, I'm up over 100 now. I'm so tired of seeing Kirishima, I just got two to drop in one run.
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>tfw Bisko is at 97 now
>she was at 82 at the start of my E-4 farming
>might hit 99 before I get Zep/clear the damn thing
Can't wake up.
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How much complaining must I do to get them? Holy shit this RNG.
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>>14431698
>Not having at least 1 whale
Fag
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>>14431672
Boss, but I did S rank to be sure.
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>>14431711
>5299th drop
>8776th drop
>9742nd drop

I'm on my 6397th drop
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>>14431698
Is Mizuho the new whale?
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>>14431724
Just got drop #8382 and I don't even have 1.
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>>14431711
>first one is Ryuuhou kai
My man, I never ever doubting giving her happiness back in the day, but why 4? You only need 3 anyway.
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>>14431711
>>14431724
>>14431731
>4 digit drop IDs
How nostalgic.
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>>14431733
Why 3?
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What's your highest level lowest ID ship?
I've got an ID #7 KTKM that's lvl 150 now.
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>>14431733
I still need 2 more. 1 Ryuuhou Kai, 1 Ryuuhou, and 4 Taigei for the 4 Fleets

>>14431734
I'm on my drop number 12354 right now
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>>14431593
I'm having similar problems. Reached the boss 3 times, 2 were B rank and one was an A. One of the B ranks would have been an S, but I fucked up and forgot I had switched fastsuck to flag instead of Akitsumaru. No FCF, and I sank Murakumo. The next attempt, power died in my apartment for a second and all my sparkling went to waste.
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>>14431738
One of each version: Taigei (whale tits), Ryuuhou (maroon tits), and Ryuuhou kai (green tits).
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Who else #lottowinner here?
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>>14431742
I have ID #5 Choukai at 116 and ID #6 Yuubari at 96.
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>>14431742
ID #3 Hachi at level 95
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>>14431742
#1, Sazanami, 118.
>not marrying your starter
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>>14431755
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>>14431755
>ID #3 Hachi
Was that your second ship contraction ever?
That's some crazy luck.
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>>14431755
>ID #3 Hachi
damn nigga
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>>14431742
I hope she'll say yes
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>>14431734
I crossed 10k this event, I guess I managed my kanmusus and sorties very well because I have a lot of girls with good levels, last one being the dupe Asashimo id10648 that I got the last time I barely managed to get close to the boss.
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>>14431755
New TTK crafting luck is stronk, isn't it?
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>>14431742
ID 9 Shigure lvl 97
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>>14431742
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>>14431748
>calling her mean things like tits
Not for lewd.
>>14431742
>marrying a lesbo
Shigure id#13 at lvl 97.
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>>14431764
Looks like Isuzu wasn't a world 1-1 drop so I guess she was a second one. But I feel like she was the first and Isuzu being my first drop.
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>>14431742
12 Verniy 137, 55 Haruna 150, 79 Hachi 150
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Is Nattsun the best kanmusu?
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>>14431742
Anyone have the picture of that Yodo fag who scrapped everyone with a lower ID than Yodo?
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>>14431791
Probably a craft, light cruisers can appear from basic recipe.
Even if Im a filthy monogamist scum, she will always have a special spot in my heart.
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>>14431806
I wish she sounded more like Nattsun.
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>>14431742
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>>14431822
I heard a rumor that Tanaka gives better RNG to TTK that picked the Fubukster as their starter and married her. Is that true for you?
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>>14431742
Inazuma is also at 92.
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>>14431809
It's not as bad as it sounds.
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>>14431824
It's been wishy washy for me. On one hand, I have above average luck with the compass and clearing quests. On the other hand, I still don't have Bismarck; fucking LSC.
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>>14431742
Who bad luck here?
Pretty much zero rare ships in my first 1k ID.
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When are you going to complete me, anon-kun?
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>>14431846
1 try without support mustard race.
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>>14431841
>scrapped my starter
>zero rare ships in first 1k ID
I think I see your problem, TTK.
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>>14431850

I did the Souryuu quest in one try, it sucked up all of my quest luck forever.
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>>14431846
After the EOs.
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Why did they make the bucket expeditions 2 and 4 ammo expeditions? I have 300k ammo and 0 fuel and buckets.
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>>14431879
Because intelligent people can manage their resources and keep the resources relatively even despite that.

Also, oh look a script kiddy
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>>14431879
How can you have 0 fuel? That's the easiest resource to get.
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God, this girl is pale.
She needs a good ol' fashioned jap tan just like Ro. I mean, she's as pale as the window shade.
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濡れるッ!
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>>14431886
It's exaggeration but running those two will pretty much make my ratio of fuel:ammo 1:10.
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>>14431895
Her screams of pain will never not turn me on.
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>>14431889
>giving her the std treatment
No.
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>>14431895
How come all of our subs are little girls and the Abyss get a princess?
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For anyone still trying: best of luck!
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>>14431920
But Maruyu is a princess, what are you implying fag?
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Kashima just hit 70. Still no Graf in sight. Rations are dwindling; so is sanity.
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>>14431926
>princess
She's a mole
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>>14431920
This is a German princess.

captcha: select all boats
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What would you do if they added shop only kanmusu? Would you spend your hard earned neet cash on them?
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>>14431923
Thanks, just got a Mutsu. Thanks.
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>>14431920
Iku is a princess.
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Did the wiki ever had a page explaining how CLp bonus exp work?
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>>14431941
thanks for giving tanaka ideas, now we're going to have to pay for shinano
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>>14431923
I took a few days off, not only to regain my fuel, but also to just get away from this fucking game for a bit after farming like mad. Tomorrow will be my last attempt, I will not stop until I hit zero for the third time.
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>>14431941
I would boycott or stop playing all together.
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>>14431948

>Shinano finally comes out
>she's a support ship
>cash shop only

ayy
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SEA anons, is the game fine now?
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fishing for Kazagumo on E-1 is boring as hell.
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>4 Kiyoshimo in ~30 E-4 boss runs
Are you SERIOUS, game?
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>>14431955
Anyone who doesn't expect Shinano to be a support ship is delusional.
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I can't decide so I'll let my post decide for me.

1. Farm E2 for Amatsukaze.
2. Farm E3F for Asashimo.
3. Farm E3 for dupe Akizuki, Akashi, Mizuho.
4. Farm E4M for Akitsumaru.
5. Farm E4 for dupe Yuu.
6. Farm E5 for Yahagi, Mikuma.
7. LSC to remove ability to farm.
8-10. Do nothing.
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>>14431966
I got two of her in a row once.
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>>14431975
enjoy, bucko
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>>14431977
same
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>>14431977
Amatsu for me
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>>14431986
I would have loved to have gotten two Amatsu in a row. At least engines are useful. Sort of.
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Fellow sufferers of LSC, convince me that Taihou is worth it. I've blown almost 250000 bauxite since i started hunting for her and now I'm losing my motivation to keep trying.
Also, is Yamato worth it? I've a married Sushi and she's breddy gud, but Nagato performs functionally the same in almost all situations for less then half the cost.
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Sixth Maruyu of the event, Tanaka won't give me Graf and he's trying to get me to buy more slots instead.
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>>14431998
>I've blown almost 250000 bauxite since i started hunting for her and now I'm losing my motivation to keep trying.
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>>14432004
Up to 4 here. I also only have 110 slots too, it's getting inconvenient.
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>>14431998
Having both Hotels is useful for those nasty event maps where enemies have ridiculous armor stats. Having two of them is never necessary, but it sure makes things a lot easier.

As for Taihou, now that both cranes have armored CV versions as well, she's sort of lost her unique selling point. I'd say she's a lower priority than Yamato at this point.
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>>14431998
If you have Shoukaku or Zuizui, it's not. She used to be before they showed up.
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It will always be worth it to get your waifu, think about how sad they would be otherwise.

I'm trying to get Musushi myself, got Yampotato but no sushi in sight
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>>14432012
Cranes are cute but they are not Taihou, Id say it depends on taste/interest more than anything, otherwise everyone would be running 2 hoterus 4 cagas and 6 Biskos in escort.
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>>14432012
What I'm asking is if it's worth spending possibly 100s of thousands of resources on LSC exclusive ships, the same resources I could use to 99 other supposedly weaker girls.

>>14432013
pic related, endless suffering. Should I still LSC? Yamato, Taihou and Shioi are still missing, but since i don't plan to rank until post Winter I have time to farm her from 6-1 or event.
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>>14431998
As an armoured CV she still has better slots than Shoukaku or Zuikaku. I still use her for 6-1 monthly.

Of course if you just want slot size stick with the cranes.
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I can't kill the boss in E-4M I feel like crying.

Might as well throw myself at the boss and hope I beat the last dance.
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>>14432028
cranes kai 2*

With that said Taihou still has both slots and armour so she's still worth LSCing for.
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>>14432026
The point of the game is to kan all the colles, at least for me. Do you want x, or do you need x? Its up to you and the will to farm the resources a.k.a. idlecolle.
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>>14432039
>idlecolle
I heard most players just rely on scripting anyways. I heard it's not that hard to write one up and supposedly they only ban for speed modding or rank related cheating.
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>>14432050
>I heard most players just rely on scripting anyways.
>most
Are you really this retarded?
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>>14431742
ID#6 Shigure Lv. 86
ID#21 Kiso Lv. 90
ID#32 Haruna Lv. 95
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>>14432055
How is it retarded to relay information I heard about?
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>>14432068
>no sauce posted
>source is probably anecdotal and/or statistically irrelevant
That's pretty retarded anon.
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>>14432075
I didn't say it was credible. I brought it up because I was hoping to spur more discussion about it.

Why would you assume I'm posting it as if it's somehow fact when I never said that?
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/jp/ how's your kai ni collection looking?

http://threebards.com/kaini/
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>>14431968
It's not like they haven't gone full ahistorical with carriers lately. And assuming they stick to their word of her being able to remodel into a BB, no one in their right mind would leave her as a resource guzzling support carrier. She'd have to come with a gimmick that's too good to pass up or they'd have to throw Tsus in every node to make her resupplying a necessity.
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>>14432089
Been finished with my kandex for a while now. I just wait for new events now and make sure it stays full.
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>>14432100
I want her to be a Yamato for carriers. It would be very interesting in combined fleet.
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>>14432100
>She'd have to come with a gimmick that's too good to pass up or they'd have to throw Tsus in every node to make her resupplying a necessity.
The only gimmick people have come up with is being able to replenish planes during sortie, which quite honestly would be useless unless they make Flagship Tsu.
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>>14432100
>or they'd have to throw Tsus in every node to make her resupplying a necessity
Or you could, you know, bring back Reppuu mules.

If Shinano becomes a mere support carrier literally no one will use her.
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>>14432089
Just Junyou and Hatsushimo left for Kai II, and Kazagumo and Mizuho for drops.
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>>14432100
Potato bias has gone too far.
I would probably use her as a battleship, maybe carrier if she's super cute.
Do we have any idea what were the plans for a completely finished Shinano? Maybe they are going that route with 3 blueprints as a minimum or something crazy like that.
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>>14431955
>>14431968
>even more useless than Aktisushima and consumes more too
Yeah nah.
>>
>shinano will become a BBV capable of equipping carrier based planes
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>>14432089
No Bisko, and going to leave Murakumo, Mutsuki, Kisaragi, Z1 and Z3 at Kai until I marry(temp) them.
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All this talk about Shinano, I just want some more CL k2s.
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>>14432134
Ooyodo!
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>>14432134
They all need a gimmick or else Abukuma would have a monopoly.
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>>14432127

Would she use planes or guns during shelling?
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>>14432127
I kind of believe they had that idea in mind, like really early, but fucked up somehwere and had to start from scratch again. I mean they rewarded shinden kai in a map that was literally a straight line to the boss, why else would they delay the last capital ship for so long? When they dedice its "balanced" it could be too late.
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>>14432089
It looks shit. Not that I care or anything.
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>>14432147
Plane levels would make her hilariously OP if she's anywhere close to Yamato's stats or they thought her original art didn't fit their standards, but unlikely since they let Oboro happen.
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Five. FIVE fucking Kiyoshimo in ~35 runs.
Just. Fucking. Shoot me.
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>>14432164

>tfw no senkan

why
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Looking like no Zep today either, unless this last run decides to prove me wrong.
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>>14432089
Not a fan of collecting things.
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>>14432162
>or they thought her original art didn't fit their standards, but unlikely since they let Oboro happen.
Having glasses and braids doesn't make her art objectively bad. I think Tanaka described her as a sickly girl in an interview ages ago, and that fit the image.
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>>14432187
Dont give up, i got her right before i was going to call it a night.
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>>14432195

>Tanaka described her as a sickly girl in an interview ages ago, and that fit the image.

She looks like a fujoshi selling her BL doujin at comiket.
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>24 donuts
What the fuck, Tanaka? Does this cunt really think I'd use this piece of shit?
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>>14432162
Yeah that cant be since shitbafu ships are ingame.
Still, what could they call op since shit like potato sluts, tanaka carrier, poi, jinchuu and such exists? Some people called e-5 easy and were using the balanced monsters.
I believe what's happening over there is someone going muh history and in the other side muh waifu, so everything is a mess for us players in the end.
The game is a mess everywhere, Im not sure how can we still play it or can not even escape it.
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>Getting sent home randomly before the boss while attempting TP gauge on E5

Is this normal?
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>>14432227
The transport is on steroids.
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>>14432231

I got sent back 6 times in a row by that transport when I did E-5, it was unreal.
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>>14432089
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>>14432089
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>>14432089
I'm hoping New Year's Ooyodo comes back.
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>>14432089

>Ro/Pastas/Unryuus/Ryuuhou are K2s

Who the fuck made this?
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>5 rows of BB hime in a row
Please tell me this isn't normal. Wo should be showing up more right?
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>>14432252
It's not normal but isn't horribly unlikely either.
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>>14432252
Depends on how many runs you do. If you end up doing 100+ you're probably going to have runs like that.
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>>14432252
Doesn't BB hime showing up mean a higher chance of Graf Zeppelin?
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>>14432267
I'm pretty sure that was just superstition. My Graf did drop on a BB hime appearance, though.
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>>14432252
I would take bbhime over wo any time of the day. Wo doesnt care about formation, penalties or gay shit like that.
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>>14432089
So close to finishing but it's like the climb went 90 degrees
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>>14432252
I've gotten her like 7 out of the last 8 runs.
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>>14432089
More than Shinano, I just want a better sprite for Oboro.
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When will they release a plane that removes hankousen?
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I got him again, but I wonder what he is doing.
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>>14432269
I actually think there's some truth to that, assuming I'm reading poi-statistics correctly.

潜水棲姫(644)/潜水カ級(530)/潜水カ級(530)/空母ヲ級改flagship(616)/駆逐イ級後期型(575)/駆逐イ級後期型(575)(単縦陣) 2078
潜水棲姫(644)/潜水カ級(530)/潜水カ級(530)/戦艦棲姫(557)/駆逐イ級後期型(575)/駆逐イ級後期型(575)(単縦陣) 4991
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I'm about to debuff SS hime at E-4. Do I really need to use Kidou Bitai for chipping and killing her after I beat both installation bosses?
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>>14432287
I don't know why artists such as Drew and Kuro Kuro just add kai art for their older ships. Kuro kuro did it with RJ so it's not like it's never been done, and Drew goes hard in the paint every time he has a chance to make seasonal art.
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>>14432302
No. I did it all with Suijou and without bothering with debuffing.
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>>14432303

because fuck you that's why, enjoy your shitboro
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>>14432303
They are either going to wait to update as many as they can when it releases for Android or they are going to take their sweet time in updating them. Shouhou was almost 8 months.
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>>14432314
Given, Bob was making Kai IIs all through those months.
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>>14432303
Tanaka is a mean guy that punishes its userbase and its staff for no reason. There is proof out there that the ingame arists were actually good before the first sprites of their ships here, not sure where Drew did even appear from, I cant seem to find anything older than kancolle related stuff.
Also thats remind me that I cant fucking wait to see best sprite Sazanami again.
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Trying to farm E-4 Hard and so far have had no luck. Thought this would be better than E-3 and it doesn't seem so. BB-Hime just ruins my day my taiha'ing my BBs, and then the firepower isn't enough to take her down. I think my fleet is just bad.

2 BB + 1 CA + 2 CL + 1 CV
Abukuma + 3 CLT + 2 DD

I have not debuffed with the apparent rumors that debuff doesn't work for suijou. I don't want to use kijou because going through 3 normal day battles sounds cancerous. My biggest problem seems to be BB-hime not dying, or in worse case scenarios with hankousen, even boss can survive.

Any suggestions? Almost close to calling it quits for Graff farming, especially with route support sparkles about to go.
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So, is Shigure strictly necessary for E-5? It's implied that she is on both English wikis, but... I have both Sendai and Kawakaze, is that not a routing composition?
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>>14432331
Try carriers if surface fleet isn't working for you.

I used
2 CLp + 1 BB + 2 CV + 1 CVL
CL + 2 CLT + 3 DD

ASW on the CL and CLp, DD, and blue planes/gyro on the CVL
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>>14432336
I hope you think the imps are cute, because you're going to run into them a lot.
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>>14432331
What equipment are you using? Yamato-class with AP shells will usually beat up BB hime pretty well by night battle. Consider adding more ASW equipment so that your escort fleet can focus on finishing BB hime at night.
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>>14432336
Do you not have shiggy?
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>can finally play

Time to save Kagerous.
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>>14432323
If you're referring to Parsley, he probably got payed peanuts so he didn't try to even make a decent Maya or Choukai.
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>>14432348
No, I have enough DDs, even for the DD maniac that I am. Plus, not enough slots.
Maybe I'll scrap Naka K2 and go find her.
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>.671% Mizuho drop rate
yeah nah I may as well just do my EOs.
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>>14432363
For real? I want a source on this.
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Every day, I'm glad the fairy artist is still around.
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>>14432368
I was just looking at poi-statistics.
>http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/map/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%AD%E3%83%8D%E3%83%8F%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E5%B3%B6%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%E6%B2%96.html
The sample size is fairly large, so I assume it's true.
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>>14432358
Stop trying to be a jew and buy some slots. It's worth it
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>E-4
>twelve girls chase a submarine and Sendai drops: the map
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>>14432357
Not him but Im sure what you said applied to pretty much everyone else.
Personally I liked Parsley class cruisers since early game, I hope I wasnt the only one.
>>14432363
Kancolle-db gives 0.60 with a sample size of 41266. I have nothing else to do so may as well burn the resources for her, I really want Mizuho.
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>>14430904
I can die happy now.
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>shiggy is just a worse version of beaver

why is this allowed?
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>>14432401
Now marry her.
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>>14432412
She can do AACI + Mixed CI slightly better than Yukikaze, but without Maruyu in the equation Hatsushimo is very slightly better, since her extra 3 luck helps take advantage of the higher luck cap on mixed Cut-ins.
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>>14432245
There's a checkbox to include blueprint-only remodels that aren't kai ni, and he has that box chekced.
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>>14432400

To be fair she was combined fleet in summer too. And most likely will be combined fleet in the next event too. And if you've got all your LSC ships there's really not much else to blow your resources on so may as well attempt to get a cute abyssal onto your side.
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>>14432412
Because beaver survived till the end while Shiggy didn't
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>poi-statistics
>0.948 for Prinz on easy

Welp
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>Finished Bw1 this early
Is this the week?
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>>14432462
I think that drop rate includes the diamond formation.
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>>14432483
Finishing that quest takes one hour of 1-1.
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Do destroyers like me? All the rares drops from the event I ever got are destroyers. No Eugen, no Graf, no Mizuho.
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>>14432483
>not a few hours after weekly reset
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>>14432535
Army dog definitely does.
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>>14432544
>Akitsu Maru
>rare
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>>14432546
I only got 1 in all of my sorties.
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>>14432546
Don't bitch about getting Akitsumaru. Unless you're telling me you already had 12 landing craft?
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>>14432028
Taihou has higher AS potential. However Cranes have better airstrike potential, better shelling damage, more HP and way more evasion. The only use for Taihou is when she's the only carrier and there are specific AS requirements.
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>>14432553
She's a pretty common failure in LSC attempts.

>>14432555
I'm not him but yes, I do have 12 daihatsu.
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>>14432089
Still missing second remodel of Murakumo and German boys.

My progress in past three months was Bisko, Shoukaku, Ryuuhou, Chiyoda, Zuikaku, Hatsushimo and Amagi. I don't have Taihou so it's not like I will complete the dex anytime soon. Maybe I'll try after the event.
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>>14432568
Was mainly directed at him since he's clearly really new judging by the heartlocked Kawakaze and Libeccio in his new ships
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>PvP has sub fleet
>equip ASW gear
>now it's bob squad
The real time fleets will always be annoying.
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I only have 150 buckets left to farm for Prinz after some 150 S ranks.

This is it.

This is the end.

May God have mercy on my soul.
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>>14432601

You only use like 1-2 buckets per Prinz run anyway.
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>>14432589
True.

But Akitsu Maru really isn't rare.
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>>14432589
I already had them from the previous event. More the merrier I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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So when farming E3 post clear it's okay to just say fuck drum canisters right? They have no affect in routing there?
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>>14432608
Do you bucket yellow damage?
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I give up. Biscuit's going to get ringed before Prinz drops.
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>>14432616

Of course not. You don't take anything but scratch damage and instant taihas.
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>>14432619
>Fubuki
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>>14432619
inb4 cherrypicking screenshots
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>>14432619

There's so much wrong with this image I don't even know where to begin.
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>>14432619
Sasuga shitbucky.
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>>14432433
Actually, it seems like mixed cut-in also has 50 luck cap when not in flagship position.
When in flagship, torp cut-in has 60 cap and mixed has 70 or more.
I don't know why we kept believing old analysis of the same image from before. When I dug out the image and looked at the data from scratch, by myself, it all became quite clear.
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>>14432611
Tell that to people with seven Taihou and see how they react.
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>>14432626
Humour me. I'm nearing at least 200 S ranks.
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>>14432630
Damn, what's the point of mixed then?
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>>14432635
>seven Taihou
Clearly the problem lies with the recipe they used.
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>>14432641
To maintain day and night battle effectiveness.
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>>14432654
*To be useless in both day and night
Ftfy
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>>14432637

Ok, fine.

>switch to medium
>use kidou with Kamo/1BB/4CV and CL/2CA/2DD/CLT, in that order
>give both DDs AACI
>give both CAs sanshiki, no maya with AACI
>drop the fucking potato bear holy shit
>get AS+ at I and use torpedo bombers in all other slots

There you go
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>>14432658
It's useless on 3 slot ships, not so much with 4 slots.
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>>14432641
Flagship craziness. Look at that 84%. Or, being useful on whole map.

Mixed cut-in was by far the best option on CAs in E3 but Prinz was my only CA with high luck. She would knock out a BB and smack AV Hime in yasen for 200 damage in the same run. Neither double attack or torp cut-in can do that with remotely close reliabiliy.
With gun gun torp plane you have same double attack as usual but stronger closing torpedo* and stronger yasen.
*two reasons for wanting that - one is eliminating enemies before yasen on boss node, other reason is eliminating/weakening enemies before main fleet starts shelling. First is obviously generally useful, second was useful for lowering bucket usage in transport fleet.
Prinz with +4 Quint reaches 96 torp damage, enough to penetrate Ta-chan and visibly harm anything squishier.

Because of Prinz' performance on E3 I started considering luck boosting Ashigara so she can use the same setup.
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>>14432663
>>switch to medium
Yea about that.
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>>14432672

>locked himself to non-final form easy

お前はもう死んでいる
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>>14432671
98 torpedo damage*
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>>14432675
Had already cleared and farmed up Graf before that nugget of information got passed around.
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>>14432793
>clearing on easy
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Finally finished with event, 126 S rank for Zepp and 87 S rank for Arashi, and truck loads of Maruyu
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Does anyone have a good E3 farming fleet?
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>>14432615
Yeah, no need for barrels while farming E-3.
It won't matter, however, as the destroyers in your main fleet will never do anything more than scratch damage. Most of the time they won't even hit.
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>>14432824
How the fuck did you get so many when I barely got 2?
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>E-4 boss node in perfect health
>Wo formation
>Wo blown the fuck out by Musashi for 250 damage
>Katori and Kashima drop boss to 60 HP
>holy shit, EZ S rank here, I can feel Graff coming
>escort fleet proceeds to flop all their attacks despite their ASW gear, flop again in yasen, SS bitch lives with 20 HP

Kill me. I don't think I can continue living after that.
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>>14432829
By farming Arashi in Hard mode. 1 maruyu every 10-15 run
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>>14432619
>using shitbuki
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>>14432829
Did you do 87 S-ranks on E-5 where Maruyu have a 6-7% drop rate? Didn't think so.
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>>14432829
I'm getting a ton of lucky charms, but no Arashi.
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>>14432824
46 S ranks on E3, 19 S ranks on E4, 26 S ranks and 18 A ranks on E5, not a single Maruyu ;_;
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>>14432836
My rarest drop was Maikaze, Kawakaze and I believe Yukikaze. I don't believe her drop rate is that high, I had more luck at E-3 with the Maruyu.
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>>14432832
I botched E-4 Hard clearing runs three times by selecting the wrong formation.

Thanks a lot, muscle memory.
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Does E-4 boss still have her ridiculous last kill armor or does it reset once you clear? I just tried a few farm sessions and I don't remember it being this annoying to kill her when before final kill armor.
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>>14432896
It it suppose to reset.
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>>14432910
Huh. Like I just went to boss node and all my ships with ASW loadout did 4-11 damage each and they failed to kill her. When I was clearing the map I killed the thing before even yasen and she was being damaged 30 a piece by the ships.

Did I get incredible luck while clearing or am I getting miserable luck now?
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>>14432913
Are you sure you didn't debuff her when clearing?
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>>14432913
Depends on your eq. She has 73 armor.
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>>14432920
Yes, I didn't touch the other mini-boss nodes.

Whatever, I guess RNG just likes to dick around.
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>ri on steroids
Somehow they always manage to find a new way to rape me, Im not even sure why I keep trying this shithole.
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>>14432949
Are you using route support?
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>>14432949
Farming or clearing?
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>>14432949

>Satsuki
>Asashio
>married Hamakaze

1000/10 taste, I wish you all the luck in the world.
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>>14432954
There's nothing tasteful about marrying a pair of tits though.
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>>14432950
No, sometimes I messed up and and send boss support to mid route, it didnt change anything, so I feel it would be a waste running double support here. Maybe I should go back to e-5, farm for Arashi and go back here and blow up the rest of my resources, Im not really sure anymore.
>>14432953
Farming obviously.
>>14432954
Thanks, but it looks like I ran out of luck not too long ago.
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>>14432963
>it didnt change anything
I find it hard to believe. When DDs are dead your CAs can shoot Ri.
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>>14432835
fubuki did nothing wrong
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Not 1, but 4 nuclear subs when fuel is depleted before the boss is kinda cheating
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>>14433006
Use Suijou.
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>>14433011
I am, still getting wrecked half the time
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>>14433015
Upgrade your T3 and T4 Sonars to +1.
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>>14433019
They are.
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>>14433024
Git gud, I guess.
When clearing I once retreated after taiha on B and used FCF once after N, other than that subs were either no problem or just a single chuuha.
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Anyone have that site which gives the ranks and the point gains per reset?
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>>14433047
senka.me
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>>14433040
ITTAI YO YAMETE EVEN THE FIRST NODE

JUST END ME
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>>14433048
Thanks!
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>>14433050
I may just be lucky, but I kidou'd all the way before switching to suijou for the final kill on hard.

One less nuclear sub to worry about, and Akitsushima never got hit more than scratch in all the time I spent both farming & clearing E-4.
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>>14433050
You can continue just fine. S ranking might get harder though.
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>>14433078
Thanks to jaypee magic, hard daytime S

Italians punched the boss twice for 200+ cutins
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>>14433090
Goddammit wait I meant senkan

I keep forgetting that the real boss is a silly harmless sub
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>>14432630
Which occurs more though? 2 torps + skilled lookout cut in or mixed cut in?
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>>14433118
Skilled Lookouts are very mysterious.
First test suggested it adds 20% chance to one ship, it was tested on lone Poi.
I don't remember chronology of later speculations and it probably doesn't matter because we most likely got them in jumbled order. Either way, there were multiple theories.
+20 luck but not exceeding cap.
+5% to everyone
+20 luck but cap for lookouts is lower
+5-10% to everyone but ships with high luck get diminishing, almost non-existent results, "high luck" varied between 30 and 50.

Half (or most?) of those weren't even linked here properly, just posted as an offhand comment, and it's possible I don't remember one (I read all the main threads since November 2014 but I could've missed or forgot something) plus it doesn't seem like any test had huge sample size so it's hard to say much about them. However, based on these posts and the fact that luck can be different for flagship and non-flagship as proved by torp/mixed/gun cut-in tests, I would speculate that all have some truth to them and skilled lookouts is more effective on flagship and helps high luck ships less though I believe it always has some effect (I know, revolutionary, too bad my common sense is boring).

Answering your question, I would assume torp cut-in + SL will occur more often than simple mixed cut-in, unless you're using >60 luck ship in flagship position. I don't think this comparison is fair though, as you're comparing three items to two.

In the end, I'm unable to say if Skilled Lookouts are worth using or not, sorry. They definitely help but slots are limited and some other piece of equipment might be a better choice.
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>>14433170
>+5% to everyone
I meant +5% to specific ship regardless of its position*
Skilled Lookouts definitely affects only the ship who has it equipped.
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>>14433170
Wow thanks for the comprehensive answer. So if someone like Prinz uses 2 20.3cm, a torp and a skilled lookout, would it be nearly 100% cut-in? Or will there be a cap?
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>>14433221
You're welcome. There most likely is some cap because in chuuha she should theoretically have >100% cut-in rate with stacked bonuses and/or luck boosting.

As far as I know we don't even have consensus on exact effect of searchlight and starshell (generally considered to be +5%) in case of high luck ships and how it combines with chuuha (+20%). The formula changed and so did the assumed luck cap and chance cap values. I vaguely remember 85% chance being maximum but if I remember correctly the test wasn't thorough.
Things are becoming even more complicated, now that we have big searchlight which extent of effect still isn't known and more importantly, abyssal yasen gear. So, even if there was a hard cap for cut-in rate, it would still be advised to aim for more when fighting evil Jintsuu.

The Maruyu ride never ends.
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>>14433260
Damn thank you very much for all that information.

Maruyu OP.
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So i'm going to start farming for zep zep, which difficulty is the most efficient in doing it?
Easy is drawing me in but i've seen people getting Graf in their first dozen of S ranks on the boss.
Already have Prinz so i'm only in for Graf or if i have the resources left, Roma.
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>>14433300
Easy is of course the best. Just remember to reset every 3 runs, and reset always before going to sleep so you don't accidentally lock yourself into easy like some people did.
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Tell me about Kashima.
Why her voice so erotic?
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>>14433326
everything about her is literally sex
just thinking about her makes me so fucking hard
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What is wrong with 3-5 today, I'm getting random pre-boss taihas what the fuck
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Oh, well that was unexpected.

Neat.
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>>14433348
Nothing is wrong, this map is always random damagefest, regardless of the route. You can finish the map with only 2-3 chuuhas as well as retreat after the first node due to a random taiha.
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>>14433361
Fuck you. 70+ sorties and still nothing ; ;

Congrats
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Fucking hell, does Graf even exist on Medium since I can only see people getting her on Easy
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>>14433366
Thanks!

I haven't even cleared E-5 yet, but I can definitely confirm she exists! Keep trying!
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Hey guys, TTK who just came back after a long break who didn't get exceptionally far when he played (still on 5-3).

My question is: will I be able to participate in the event? I'm looking at the Wiki, and the suggested fleets either have a AV (I don't have one levelled), or three CVs (I don't have three levelled, let only unique ones).

I'm hoping to do it on medium, but am fine with easy. Pic is my ship list.

Thanks! Still trying to figure out what all these new buttons are (those ones in the bottom left on the Fleet Modification screen??).
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>>14433387
Nice DDs.
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>>14433387
Unless you have over 200 buckets, don't bother. I started playing too late to stockpile, and I've been working on clearing E5 for days now (whilst running exp 2 and 4 non-stop, mind you). Since you don't have Yukikaze, you probably won't even manage to clear E3.
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>>14433387
You can definitely clear E1 and E2. Not sure about E3 beyond
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>>14433306
Why shouldn't I go middle of the road by clearing on Medium and setting myself up to try to get Prinz and Graf for E6?
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>>14433399
>>14433401
E1 and E2! Good enough for me, thanks guys.
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>>14433387
The event ends in half a week, you had plenty of time but not anymore.

You might just barely scrape by E1 with a budget combined fleet (why the fuck do you only have 4 kai'd BBs?) but you'll probably get fucked by E2 and stonewalled on E3. Unless you want to farm for drops of E1 or E2 don't even bother.
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>>14433405

But you won't have the sex cruiser!
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>>14433420
I have no idea how many times I've fapped to her.
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>>14433433
>>14433420
Kashima > Graf/Prinz
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>>14433404
You can just farm on easy then change the difficulty for your clear. Graf hasn't been confirmed to drop more frequently on higher difficulties, no point making things harder for yourself.
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Wait. If we have the bath at HQ for repairing shipgirls, what's about shipgirls in the other parts of the world? Or the shower also OK?
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>>14433443
>Kashima > Graf
So sex-radiating Whore Cruiser is better than pale (possibly rotting) corpse animated with black magic? Thank you, I'd never figure it out without your help.
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>>14433459
>Kashima
>whore
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>>14433459
Of course anon!
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>>14433471
Kashima doesn't wear underwear.
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv244101524

UGUME streaming E-5
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Anyone had any luck farming E5 hard post-clear without supports? S ranking wasn't a problem when I was clearing it but after clearing I invariably get A ranks with only a few hp remaining on one of the enemies.
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>>14433516
Just run an aerial support. Cheap as fuck and non-red DDs blow up as soon as something touches them.
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>>14432630
Your image is a bit outdated. Also according to the wikiwiki so are your numbers. The formula is:
-√(70*luck) for torpedo and cutins.
-√(50*luck) for triple gun cutins
-The luck cap is 60 for torpedo, ~70 for mixed and ~55 for triple gun cutins.
-Being the flagship adds +12.5% and this can go beyond the luck cap.
-Being moderately damaged adds +20% and this can go beyond the luck cap.
-Searchlight, starshell and skilled lookouts each add about 5%. Searchlight and starshell can can push your chances beyond the luck cap. Skilled lookouts cannot.

Using a flagship Yukikaze as an example, √(70*60) + 12.5 = 77% to torpedo cutin. Searchlight and starshell will bring that to 87%.
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>>14433575
You have to state that it's for the flag only

Non-flag cutins are still the usual numbers from back in the day
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>>14433581
No. Non-flags just don't get the 12.5% bonus. They use the same formula.
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>>14433582
Would it kill you to look at the data tables?
Non-flag has 50 luck cap.
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>>14433582
Sigh. So where do I farm those maruyus again
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>>14433584
Will it kill you to read the formula? The table has a pretty big margin of error on some values. 50 and 60 luck shows around the same activation chance in the table but there's a 5% deviation. Plus this isn't the only test done. The general consensus right now is that the cap is 60 for torpedo cutins.
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>134 S victories at E3Boss
>No sight of Akizuki

Care to spare some/jp/ magic to me?pls
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>>14433599
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>>14433599
I just read Onepunch man thread when I got her
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>>14433589
I guess it can be like that. Would be nice if other tests were incorporated then.
Using the formula as argument is fundamentally wrong though as it is a conclusion drawn from data.

By the way it would mean that chuuha flagship Yukikaze with searchlight is guaranteed to perform a cut-in.
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Also in case anyone cares.

What night scout does:
-Increases accuracy of the entire fleet by 10%
- Increases firepower of the entire fleet by 5.

What it does not do:
-Increase critical chance
-Increase cut-in chance

Chance of activation affected by 2 factors:
-Level of the ship carrying the plane.
-Number of planes you have equipped. The size of the plane slot does not matter.

Some sample data:
-If you have 1 plane equipped, a level 150 ship has an 85% chance to activate the plane whereas a level 99 ship will have 65%.
-If you have 2 planes equipped, a level 150 ship has a 98% chance to activate the plane whereas a level 99 ship will have 91%.

Source: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/RayBeams/blomaga/ar894455
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>>14433720
Fuck it, watch me stack 4
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>>14433720
What happens if you equip 1 night scout plane on 2 kanmusu then?
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>>14433746
I actually thought about the exact same thing and was surprised that the author never mentioned that. I would imagine that it would have the same chance as 1 ship carrying 2 planes. I wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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>>14433746
Probably just the same chance twice, e.g.
2x99, 1 each = 1-(.35^2) = 87.75% activation
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Got a second Roma and still no Prinz.
Why.
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I finally got doggykaze, I am free.Still no Prinz or Graf but I'm at 0 buckets.
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I've been farming E-4 for the last 8 days and still no Graf. Haven't even been able to move onto Prinz.
My log says I've done over 330 S-runs of the boss node.

Somebody just shoot me already.
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>>14433763
>>14433773
ganbarueeeeeeeeeeee
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>>14433773
You can do it anon, She's waiting for you to rescue her
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>>14433720
Oooh. Thanks. Gotta get another Sendai.
Poor Ooyodo.
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>>14433455
Right now I'm on final kill formation to farm Prinz on medium. I was thinking of saving myself the time by clearing on medium ASAP to get E-5 done.
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>>14433720
I honestly don't see myself ever using 2 night scouts. Let's assume the worst case scenario. Summer 2015. Applying the most try-hard team I can think of:

1) Myoukou- 2x quints, 1x 20.3 no.3, 1x wildcard
2) Prinz- 2x quints, 1x 20.3 no.3, 1x wildcard
3) Abukuma- Kohyouteki, 2x quints
4) Bismarck- 2x 38 kai, ap shell, night scout
5) Shigure- 2xquint, 1x wildcard
6) Yukikaze- 2x quint, 1x wildcard

I have 4 wildcards to work with. I would put searchlight on shigure, starshell on myoukou and prinz and a 3rd quint on Yukikaze.
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>>14433805
Thanks for the support, anon! I was about to give up, but your encouragement kept me going.
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>>14433866
Nice
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>>14433853
>Not triples on Myoukou for that placebo.
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>>14433866
You're welcome, I know how tiring farming for her is, but good thing you didn't give up. Take good care of her!
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>>14433873
She's already over the night battle damage cap with that setup. More quints is pointless.
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>>14433880
I meant 2x Triple (Oxygen) not 3x Quint
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>>14433882
Oh well, I prefer accuracy over defenses anyway.
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>>14433848
I'm also currently trying to recover up to the soft cap, so I need to be a bit more careful.
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Is getting banned the only way to quit this game?
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What are the best ships to feed Maruyu to?
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>>14433926
Your waifu.
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>>14433926
your favourite one
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>>14433925
You'd just find another way get back in.

You have to quit voluntarily somehow to get clean for good.
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For aerial support should I stack radars on the DDs or just leave them empty?
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>>14433926
Yuudachi or Shimakaze.
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>>14433926
Taigei
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>>14433926
Myoukou, Prinz, Abukuma are by far the most important ones. Get their luck to 50 or 60 ASAP. I say OR because the newly discovered cap of 60 is still new information and I would wait a little longer for more data or until it becomes commonly accepted.
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>>14433931
Like scrap all my girls? I do wish for a big scrap-all button rather than trashing them one by one.
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>>14433938
Siemakaze has 2 points more over Ayanami. I wouldnt invest in her, unless you like her.
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>>14433950
Just doing that alone isn't a foolproof solution, that one guy who scrapped every girl and burned up every resource with LSC still ended up clearing an event after.
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>>14433944
>Myoukou
No.
If you're going to invest in non-Prinz, it's better to choose CA with more firepower. They aren't that far behind Myoukou, just a bit over one soup.

The tests were done months ago, it's just that we didn't have a conclusion because nobody cared enough.

>>14433956
Yup. With DDs it's Poi for absolute power and Ayanami for quick results. Shimakaze is both weaker and slower to feed than Yuudachi
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>>14433950
Just post your api or better yet your account name and password.
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>>14433966
It's 4 firepower. Big deal. You know how many girls are lined up for maruyu? The sooner you can get your core CAs ready the sooner you can move on to things like Abukuma and Yuudachi which take fucking forever to max.
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>>14433956
>>14433966
Kai ni soon.
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>>14433995
I want to believe we'll see Shimakaze K2 before this game becomes completely irrelevant
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>>14433995
Soon™
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>>14433981
It is.
Choukai has 5 firepower more. With crit in combined fleet it becomes 8 damage difference. You need every point to bring Ru or Ne to chuuha or to kill a LM elite with one shot instead of two.

>The sooner you can get your core CAs ready the sooner you can move on to things like Abukuma and Yuudachi which take fucking forever to max.
And on what basis are you deciding that one has to start with CAs? It's quite the opposite.
CAs don't need cut-in to hit hard. At the same time, by using cut-in they lose their quite capable day double attack. With cut-in they're just bigger DD in day battle, instead of small BB.
Abukuma and Yuudachi have higher priority than them. Especially Abukuma who wants torpedo cut-in for multitude of reasons. Stronger opening torpedo, stronger closing torpedo, fleet usefulness by having short range, and she doesn't lose much by discarding guns as her firepower was low to begin with.

>fucking forever
xD
Myoukou needs 28 luck to reach full potential. Abukuma and Poi need 40/39. Not even 50% more.
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I feel like E-5 is going to be a huge bucket dump. I've had to retreat on the first node 3 times due to a surviving DD. I made it to the night node 1 time and that taiha'd 2 ships.
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>>14434024
I'm assuming the worst case scenario. Summer 2015 where I personally found double attacks to be completely fucking useless. It was an all or nothing gamble. Getting to the yasen damage cap was priority number 1. The only 2 ships that can hit the yasen damage cap and didn't need too much luck investment were Myoukou and Prinz.

Also the comparison was between Myoukou and other CAs luck. Not between Myoukou and Abukuma or Yuudachi. If you choose to power up Choukai instead of Myoukou you're going to delay the feeding of the other ships.
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>>14434038
If you're getting turned back on the first node that often you may be doing something wrong, it's J node that should be giving you trouble most often.
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I'm going to feed Maruyus to Tone and nobody can stop me.
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>>14434045
That's because we used Kidou Butai. In Suijou Butai escort fleet has better accuracy.
You are right that Myoukou has a headstart compared to other non-Prinz CAs but she still needs quite a bit of work. To the point where it isn't "go for Myoukou" but becomes "just choose your favorite CA, if she's Myoukou you'll have it easier".
Choukai and Haguro have 19 luck, Ashigara has 20 luck, just like ABKM and Poi. It's all the same thing.
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>>14434054
My wife doesn't need terrible food
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>>14434047
That one red DD usually lives because of someone missing. Running the best comp though.
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>>14434065
And what's to say they won't make us use Suijou Butai again? That's the worst case scenario and you need to be prepared for it.

Also I would put Abukuma on the same level as Myoukou and Prinz in when it comes to the maruyu feeding order simply because of how essential she is. Her double attack is worth jack fucking shit anyway so might as well give her 2 torps to make her opening and closing torp stronger. Hell I would even give her double torp setup at base luck. The real debate here is between CA and DDs. And I still advocate going for CA first every single time. They can survive better, they have a way easier time hitting the yasen damage cap and they are not at risk of being removed should you need to FCF somebody. All of this contributes to giving them a better chance of landing that all important max powered cutin to take out the AA princess.
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>>14434080
I did it on hard and only rarely had a problem with any of them surviving and landing a hard closing torpedo hit to taiha, maybe once in 6-10 runs. It seems to me your problem is either A. your ships are underlevelled B. your equipment sucks C. your ship order is suboptimal D. you're just shit out of luck on RNG
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>>14434095
It seems that the first 3 runs were met with bad luck. I'm flying right through that node now. It was just some bad luck
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>>14434089
Crap I meant Kidou butai
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>>14434089
Huh? But I was saying Abukuma has much higher priority than any CA. However I dislike Abukuma's voice and so I'm waiting for another CL with opening torp, hopefully Kuma.

As for CA vs DD you're raising good points, especially the FCF one. Difference in power is big though so I'm not entirely convinced.
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>>14434038
Sparkling helped me a lot. Make sure it's above 53.
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>>14434068
What do Maruyus taste like?
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>>14434129
Vanilla soft tofu.
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Time to play guess the LSC. I closed my eyes before pressing the button so even I don't know.
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>>14434137
Not the ship you want.
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>>14434137
2 Fusou-class 1 Kongou-class Akitsumaru
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>>14434137
Kirishima, Ise, Fusou, Yahagi.
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So, no Unryuu this event? How am I supposed to clear that quest? ;_;
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>>14434148
Have fun in 6-3.
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>>14434148
She will be added to LSC. Enjoy!
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>>14434137
"Surprise it was Taihou recipe so all of your guesses are wrong!"
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You're not the right red-head.
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>>14434166
Kawakaze is the superior redhead though.
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I'm already starting to hate E5, it's one giant chuuha fest and the tp bar is depleting so damn slow if I want to keep some night equip and then there's also the tedious sparkling. Who thought that this shit would be fun?
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>>14434166
Redwind is super cute desu
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>>14434143
>>14434144
Surprise it was Taihou recipe so all of your guesses are wrong!
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>>14434173
She's not.
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>>14434173
Can't beat the bellybutton
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>>14434181
Hah I was right
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>>14434181
Should've tried to craft army dog instead.
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>>14433720
Then why was the theory that Ooyodo had a higher trigger chance even a thing?
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I'm going to feed her to my wife Mayuru.
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>>14434166

You'll like her soon enough. I like her smug face even before the event.
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>>14434201
I already scrapped her 15 times this event.
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>>14434193
I've been in these threads for almost a year and I've never heard that.
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>>14434208

She's that common, huh? Or are you just unlucky enough that you need to do many runs for Arashi?
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>>14434230
She's that common, it was over the course of the whole event.
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>>14434210
It was a thing during the Spring event and even more after the plane levels. Even I believed it for a while but my Ooyodo was already level 130 by Summer and it would activate very frequently.
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>Fucked up the LSC input by using 1 dev instead of 20

This is fine.
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>>14434234
I think I know what you're referring to. There was a theory that the number of planes in a given slot increases the chance of activation. Ooyodo has 6 planes per slot whereas Jintsuu only has 2. The test above however was done with ships like Fusou with her 23 plane slot and Hachi with her 1 plane slot. Both had almost the same rate of activation at similar levels.

Also I always thought the only reason people brought Ooyodo instead of Jintsuu was because of her extra slots. They could pile all the yasen crap on her and have the other ships carry more torpedoes or something.
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I did another 4 LSC.

>>14434143 was so close since I also did >>14434240
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>>14434278

Post like this make me itching for LSC. But then I realised that the only BB I need from LSC right now is Bismarck since Yamato and Musashi is not as useful yet. And then the desire to do LSC dies down.
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>>14434317
I dunno mate, Yamato and Musashi were much more useful for me.
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>>14434317
If you don't have proto 46 and 51 to upgrade there's little incentive to go for Musashi/Yamato
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>>14434346
Upgrade Proto 46? Why?
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>>14434358
Because outside of combined fleets it's the best BB gun for non Nagato and Yamato class. Japs agreed, don't bother them about it
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>>14434361
Isn't the proto 46 so shit, you might as well just use the regular 46cm?
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>>14434361
Haha no. Proto 46 is overweight on every freaking ship. It's the biggest troll in the game's history.
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>>14434361
Your polls suggests the 38cm won.
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Guys, Proto 46 is good. Don't make fun of it. :^)
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>>14434376
>those players who did medium in E-1 at Spring event
Just why?
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>>14434373
>>14434376
It's not much different from 41cm apart from the extra power and range on FBBs. If you upgrade it you can completely offset the accuracy penalty and go well positive with AP shell upgrade

>>14434387
Which is why I said outside of combined fleet
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>>14434391
I'll still use 38 kai over proto 46 any day of the week. It's not even a contest.
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>>14434394
I'll start my bisko farm one day, I swear
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>>14434376
Are those numbers before or after applying the stated Acc bonus on the left?
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>>14434401
Pretty sure it's before and why are you all acting like it's the first time you've seen this? It's been in the OP forever.
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>>14434398
And when you do, watch as 38 kai gets "fixed" and only Bismark gets the fit gun mechanics and it becomes neutral on all other BB and at the same time proto 35.6cm becomes upgradeable.
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>>14434398
One Bisko is enough for five guns.

>>14434406
Doesn't matter. The time one used Bisko gun also has value and no future update will change it.
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>>14434406
It would seeing as the pasta gun is neutral on everyone but the pastas.
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>>14434394
It's obviously situational. There are maps where you want accuracy and there are maps where you want FP. 38 kai might not be enough to take down Ru Kai at 4-5 if you get hankousen and you'll still reach the accuracy cap with heavier caliber guns
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>>14434414
How do you even calculate the accuracy cap?
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>>14434414
Pasta guns are better than Proto 46.
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>>14434376
This table is probably going to be updated. The original creator just tweeted:
大和型にフィット砲がない検証結果、および長門型+35.6cmのフィット値がだいぶ小さくみえる(というか無さそう)な点を合わせると、高速戦艦組と大和長門組ではフィット傾向そのものが違って、夏前に想定してみた下位互換のような関係にはない気がする。いつか自分用の表を作り直そう。

https://twitter.com/ex_witch/status/622428240364355585
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E4J drops are a lie, all I get are Fubuki-class and Hieis.
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>>14434439
Fuck. Wrong Link.
https://twitter.com/Ex_witch/status/672098699648962560
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Can Graf's HA gun trigger AACI without directors like the pasta gun can?
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>>14434423
If you're not missing any more with proto 46 than you are with pasta gun you can't really say they are objectively better.
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>>14434451
No.
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>>14434448
So, Nagatos and Yamatos don't get bonus from smaller guns, right?
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Does luck affect carriers at all
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>>14434414
If I want firepower I use the normal 46cm.
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>>14434469
We all wish it did.
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>>14434469
No.
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>>14434469
Yes, their luck is usually reflected in some gags in the 4koma.
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>>14434469

Soon. Another upgrade for cranes and they can send their planes out in yasen.
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>>14434469
It really should affect some part of their defense/evasion, since luck in-game is generally based on their ability to survive multiple engagements.
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>>14434469
New tests have shown that 10 luck converts to 1 point of accuracy so yes. Zuikaku is a lot more accurate than most carriers as a result.
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>>14434469
Zuizui and Hiryuu would be used more often depending how useful it makes them, but can't have that in Kaga country.
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>>14434501
Nobody uses Kaga anymore. CVB is the shit after plane proficiency.
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>>14434501
Cranes are better than Kaga now. Taihou is probably better than Kaga as well.
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>>14434507
I do.
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>>14434515
I'm so sorry.
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>>14434497
Forgot to quote source.
http://bs-arekore.at.webry.info/201502/article_4.html

The formula for luck to accuracy is actually
1.25~1.5 * Luck / 1000. So zuikaku and hiryuu actually starts out with +6.25~7.5 accuracy.
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>>14434507
I can't help it, it's an old habit.
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>>14434507
>CVB
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>>14434507

I still use Kaga. You can't just ditch your wife like that.
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>>14433956
What are you implying? Id take pure daughteru Shimakaze over potatonami anyday without a doubt.
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>>14434557
Pure daughteru? Do you mean impure crossdressing futaslut?
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Please leave me alone, Amatsukaze.
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>>14434515
>>14434521
>>14434538
>marrying used and retarded goods from Tanaka
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>>14434507
She'll always be the best carrier in my fleet.
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>>14434569
Purity aside, he's right. Speedslut > Potatonami > Retardachi.
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>>14434557
>>14434569
>>14434581
Can you please stop bullying destroyers? They're all cute in their own way.
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>>14434569
Those are just secondary scum making doujins about something they never ever played. I bet you dont even remember her lines and calls her slut.
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>>14434581
Since when is it cool to hate Poi?
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Speaking about Kaga, Jesus fuck, she took the taiha to the face.
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>>14434592
I don't know if it's cool or not, I'm just 'poi'nting out that she's mentally impaired.
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>>14434588
>I bet you don't even remember her lines
Anon, everyone remembers her lines. They are just about limited to: "I'm fast!", "That's slow!" , "I'm faster than you!" , and "That's okay because I'm fast!".
And an adorable "Ohayou gozaimasu!" when you remodel her

>>14434592
Since never. The anti-poi fags are disgusting.
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>>14434599
2CV 1BB is better, use these overpowered torp bombers.
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>>14434606
You forgot "Will this make me even faster?"
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Something nice happened and she dropped during Node J E-5. Also Maikaze boss drop but I already got her like 5 times.
When will I be freed from this hell that is E-5?
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>>14434606
タービン周りも整備したーい!
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>>14434637
Shimakaze's a good girl
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So I'm using 1 main gun, 1 secondary on my CAs to help clear those horrible PT cunts, but I've noticed my night battle rolls against the boss have turned to shit. Should I switch back to double main guns or does it not make a difference?
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Thank jesus.

Onto E5 now to finish the event.
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>>14434655
It shouldn't make any difference. Remember that Anchorage has 220 armor.
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>>14434606
>>14434614
>most people probably just think something among these lines
Just think for a minute
>a child
>only one of her class
>made to only be fast and deadly
>cant help but only try to play with others about being fast
She just wants a friend, and probably a father figure too, why would you deny her that? If you dont pat her head daily, you are just scum.
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>>14434670
Oh well, I'm down to my last 10k resources so Prinz will either be rescued or left behind. I doubt I can clear two maps after this anyway.
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>>14434678
I want to give her a ring and a cute daughter.
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>>14434580
That's because your other carriers are too low level.
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>>14434682
E5 takes no resources but it's good to have ~100 buckets.
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Does it make me a terrible person?
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>>14434704
Yeah, why aren't you using 5-5?
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>Ooyodo gets a daytime CI with the night plane
>every single battle
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>>14434704
Yes.
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>>14434722
The first node isn't a night battle node.
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>>14434704
No, it's a right of passage.
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>>14434704
Depends, will you give her a bucket after or just let her sit in docks?
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>>14434726
What did you expect to happen?
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>>14434758
It has a much lower trigger chance, so nothing. She's truly the greatest CL.
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>medium
>S rank
>no drop
Some fucker stole my Prinz
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>>14434746
Not him, but I do that to every ship when they get to remodel level and then I remodel them so they don't stay damaged.
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>>14434746
No, but I remodeled her. She needed only 500 exp.
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>>14434759
She's with you until the very end, even if you decide to quit.
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Explain

No, I'm not on kuso
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>>14434894
>no I'm not on kuso
That's the problem. You're barely getting S-ranks in half of the runs if the pattern that you've shown is the same for the rest of your runs. And if you're complaining about not getting drops in those last three runs, get over it, it's not like getting an Inazuma is much better.
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