How's your mahjong life going?

>>14378060
just found out i could have played washizu mahjong in my hometown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOSC4O74Ms

also lost 150 rating from being last 6 games in a row

>>14378060
Zero. I never could figure out the rules.

>>14378084
Neat.
>>14378092
The Wikipedia pages explain mahjong in a simple and easy way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahjong#Old_Hong_Kong_mahjong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_yaku
Read those, play for a while, and then, after that, read an official ruleset.

arcturus.su – The Wiki
tenhou.net/0/?L7447 – 0:0

Does tenhou have mobile support. I have no idea what this interface means

>>14378132
There's a beta version that doesn't use flash.
The arcturus wiki helps explain the interface. It's not too difficult, I promise!

>>14377628
It was a closed khan, not a call.

Fuck me.
Haven't played in so long, forgot which button is the ron button.

>>14378129
but i dont get rating in 7447

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Just won 1st place 4 times in a row in Mahjong of Walkure. People seem to be a lot worse compared to Tenhou.
Too bad it'll be a long time before I see an H-scene.

>>14378245
how do i even get better : <

>>14378060
3.4

3:4 and two other room 1:0, c'mon

>>14378271
At mahjong in general?

Reading stuff from the wiki and guides and such can only help so much, the best thing that helps me is just playing and learning from experience. As long as you know how to get Yaku you should be able to learn a lot just from playing semi consistently

>>14378420
only thing i found out is that i might as well start going for tanyao every fucking hand. if i dont have any obvious higher points

>>14378463
I usually go for pinfu if I don't have anything, since open tanyao hands are usually not even worth the effort anyway.

Long ago, I would hate you for doing that, opening almost every hand and ending the game like that, but now, it just feels good to play again after so long.

>>14378463
I think It's best to not call tiles unless you can for sure get some other Yaku. Closed hands are basically guaranteed Yaku because even worst case scenario you can riichi if you get tenpai.

>>14378245
link

>>14378817
http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=520004/

>>14378843
Where-s the guide for moon illiterates, senpai?

>>14379077
I just spoonfed you the link when you could have easily googled it, and now you want me to write you up a guide? There's only so much I can do.

>>14379099
Actually, I had googled it, and I had found the same link, but it forced me to go to nutike or something because of reasons. Turns out I had to change the language to japanese to play the game, so no, you didn't "spoonfeed" me shit

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>tfw you yakuman and theysomad

>>14379139
There was a Jojo mahjong somewhere, but I couldn't find it and deleted the picture that was my only clue

>>14378271
Play more. Know what your goals at the start of a round and play to those goals. If you see you are in danger and your opponents are ahead of you, then defend. Try to remember that you can't win every round. It's all about losing less and winning more big hands.

>>14379179
I think it was just a computer game, I remember seeing it posted as well.

Hey I'm learning and wanted to ask: if I have a hand that's open with one sequence chi'd for sanshoku, can I have the two sequences in my hand and Ron to win the round?

>>14380511
Sanshoku is allowed open, yes.

WTF IS THE MISTAKE?
https://youtu.be/uXMfEga-QF4?t=948

what did he do wrong ?

same on tenhou. sometimes i call tiles and i am not allowed to choose what i discard

>>14381442
It's a rule called kuikae. You're not allowed to call on a tile and then discard a tile that would complete that set. For example, if you have 123, you can't chi the 4 and discard the 1 on the same turn. Or if you have 222, you can't pon 2 and then discard 2. If you have a shape like 234456, though, you can chi 3 with 24 and discard the 6.

woooooooohoooo

from 1500 to 1300 in 2 days

FUCKING SHIT GAME

>>14382597
You can get back up just as quickly if you weren't shit. Ranking is based on how you play overall, you just suck ass.

>>14378060
that feeling from last to first

this game is addicting as fuck

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Why have I never seen NET麻雀 MJモバイル mentioned here? Stupid long ass name. Net MJ for short, I guess? It's probably the best way to play mahjong on mobile and has a nice UI. It's also compatible with both iPhone and android (I think PC too) with cross-play.
I'm curious because my PC blew up recently and I've been looking into mobile clients and this seems best to me.

>>14378060
3.0

>>14382716
Because I have a windows phone

>>14382716
Because if by any chance I happen to leave my room, a full mahjong game takes too long to complete. I just play 雀クロ and call it a day.

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I totally did not steal this from any other board

3:0

Why the fuck are sanankou and chiitoitsu only 2 han? With how difficult they are to pull off you think they'd be worth more.

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>>14384895
> implying that you intentionally get sanankou
And chiitoi is a simple yaku. Pairs often come in dozens, so all you have to do is to pick and feel lucky.

>>14384895
You can get sanankou while open, and while chiitoitsu is hard to finish, you usually choose to pursue it instead on the ankous since its easier to fold with and may even retain its shape while folding.

>>14385037
When I say fold, I mean defend.

>>14385058
The way I play Chiitoitsu is pretty defensice anyway, you basically just discard whatever else is discarded the most to increase your chancess of drawing another pair

>>14385360
In a way it's defending while hoping for the slimmest chance to draw the pairs of your remaining tiles.

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I shouldn't have bothered to get my hopes up.

>>14385530
I like it when people share my suffering. Rot in hell with me faggot.

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>on a winning streak in /a/'s lobby

It's L8000 by the way, no clue why they made another one but it gets a lot of traffic so if no one is in 7447 you might wanna check it out

>>14386011
you dont get rating from those right ?

what do you need to do to keep your rating at 1500? like whats the required skill level and how do you attain it ?

>>14386054
Yeah you don't get rating for private lobbies. As for everything else I don't know.

I just play as NoName, you can read this if you want to know though I'm sure it's in there
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/

>>14386054
The formula for calculating how rating changes, which you can find on Arcturus, takes into account the number of games you've played and the average rating of everyone at the table. It has a decay built in so for the first few hundred games it'll move around a lot, so it won't be an accurate representation of your skill level.

Rather than aiming to maintain 1500, your goal should be to reach 4d R1800 so you can play in the tokujou lobby, and eventually 7d R2000 for the houou lobby.

>>14386136
so how do i get better at mahjong

or more specific what are the skills i should study. i looked at tile efficiency and couldn't really find anything i wasn't alrdy doing.

>>14386255
learn how flow works

>>14386255
Tile efficiency is learning how to attack. Next thing to learn is how to defend. Then, when to attack or defend. If you just have a solid grasp of these basics, then you can make it to tokujou with enough persistence.

That said, I often find it the case that whenever someone says "I know that already" they probably don't know it as well as they think.

How often do you open your hand? Lately I've been opening my hand a lot for yakuhai, also whenever I'm in the dealer seat I'll go for a cheap hand to keep it going. Sometimes I wonder if it's better to go for more valuable hands.

>>14386409
I generally only open my hand for dragon yakuhai or something like toitoi. Or shousangen.

12 games, 3 4th placings and no wins in my 2nd day as a first dan. I guess it's still a pretty decent result.

>>14386409
I open my hand for either bumping the dealer, calling a good hand (typically toitoi, chiitoitsu or yakuhai with a lot of dora) or trying to change the flow of the game.

I know the last one sounds retarded but that's how I do it.

>>14386409
Firstly, ask yourself if, given what round it is and how many points everyone has, you should prioritize speed, value or defense. If the answer is speed, then consider how much speed you'd gain from opening your hand. Sometimes, your hand will still be slow even if you open up.

why did this east only round continue into the south round. for a few games

i dont understand i was in first and suddenly i get into second because we have to play longer.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015112102gm-0041-0000-b2c11cb4&tw=1%201

>>14386409
i often go for an open tanyao if my hand is nowhere near richii

>>14386480
The game goes into sudden death if no one is over 30,000 by the end.

>>14386483
Uh actually it would be tenpai, not riichi. If we're being technical here

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>last place in 9 last games

>>14386583
Proof? How can one be so bad.

>>14386583
You can do it Kaiji.

>>14386583
悔しい

2:0

>>14382716
I use that Hangame mahjong app for android.

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>people queuing for speed
Why would you do that!?

>>14386857
I'll take anything as long as I can play.

>>14386863
Regular game is at 3:0

>>14386864
I know. I'm one of those 3.

>two games of east only
Come on, guys. Might have played one south game.

Can anyone make the WEB tenhou work? I'd like to use my phone for this shit too

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>>14387270
It works fine on my tablet

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>south round 4th game
>last place
>hit tenpai in 5th turn
>hand is worth enough to make first place if I hit my better out for sanshoku
>RIICHI
>shimocha calls, RON

>>14387402
>L8000
裏切り者

>everybody disconnects: the game

>>14387418
Sorry.

>>14387442
NoName wasn't there from the start, so I decided to save us all some time

>>14387442
I'm literally playing by myself

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>>14387421
I didn't even know 7447 existed, I'm really new.

Sorry

>riichi
>my wait gets kan'd by the next player

>>14387541
That's why you riichi with 5 or more waits

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What does this mean

BEAUTIFUL RON

>>14387641
>dealing into an obvious honitsu
>beautiful

NoName, please deal into me for once!

>>14387886
I don't even pay much attention to defense unless my hand falls apart anyway.

>>14387553
it means you are pretty bad

>>14378060
3.0

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>>14387912
Sorry, that was my friend's

This is mine

>>14387995
i cant read this

>>14387995
Those ratios don't seem to add up.

>>14387553
>First place rate, number of games played, hand win rate
>Second place rate, average points (ie the +-whatever you see after the game ends), deal in rate
>Third place rate, average placing, call rate
>Last place rate, riichi rate
>Bust rate (ie dropping below 0 points)

Yeah that's pretty bad. Your call rate is super high. Don't call unless you know what yaku you can get.

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>>14387553
You’re doing pretty well, keep it like it is.

>>14387553
You get your ass whooped a lot.

Is there a possibility to rest my rank and rating? I want to be a rookie again (and restore my old rating to 1500).

>>14389931
You can create a new ID.

exactly like my real one

>>14390041
Extremely successful with lots of exciting upward motion?

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442 days and 610 games later, I've finally made it back to 6d after getting demoted.

>>14390723
Given thirty years and even I might reach such a level. I will catch you

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>>14390760
Good luck. Just keep playing and you'll improve bit by bit.

Here are my stats, for reference.

>>14390778
I'm screwed

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>tfw you've won enough games and are knowledgeable enough about rules and strategies to refer to yourself as "intermediate"

>>14390824
Chiitoitsu - Honitsu. That's just a mangan isn't it? I'd expect something called apocalypse now to be more valuable, like a haneman or baiman.

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>>14390778
What does the stats at the bottom half say?

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>>14391035

1:0 in 7447

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>>14392890
That's sad

Second place!
I had some weird hands starting near 13 orphans, but the other players saw how I embarrassingly didn't achieve them.

>>14393111
Yeah I was 1st, I got some really lucky hands that round like triple Dora red dragons and starting out being 1 tile from tenpai.

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>>14393111
>near 13 orphans
It's not near kokushi unless you have 11 tiles of 11 types.

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>0:4

>>14378060
fucking hell second time in a raw thierd with not even one decent end to play and all my 2 side wait riichi destroyed

sure it isnt my day

It's not even 15:00 and I'm ready to play mahjong for the rest of the day.

What's the difference between web and desktop versions of Tenhou?

>>14393496
You have to pay for the desktop version.

2:0

>>14393594
Sup fellow waiting-buddy.
I've only done ari with red before on tenhou. What other modes have you played?

>>14393614
Just Ari with red I think, I accidently played on the fast mode once though and I couldn't keep up with it.

>>14393638
I don't want to try fast mode, but I would like to try nashi sometime after I git gud in ari red.

>>14393686
Nashi is just no open Tanyao and no red tiles right?

>>14393711
Yep.

>>14393174
sauce?

i need more mahjong

>>14393923
This. I don't watch 3D shit often but I need my fix, I'm running out of manga.

>>14393923
I think it's Tohai

The flash client isn't letting me log in. It only refreshes after I try to.
Earlier it gave me some moonspeak with YES/NO as a response and I hit no.

>>14393951
cant find the torrent for it anywhere.

you mean
Shin Usagi Yasei no Touhai
right ?

>>14394150
>torrenting
>not FTP
truPLEB detected

>>14393951
Watched episode 1, pretty nice, even with it '' i win all hands'' bullshit

that moment when the girl made him grope her breast
''What does it mean?''
I love him already

>>14394233
well i tried all searches including that.

does anyone have a viable link where you can watch this one ?

>>14394150
http://www.viki.com/videos/1063664v-tohai-i-episode-1

There's only a torrent for episode 1 (which I uploaded). I had to pay a friend to rent the DVDs for me. Is anyone here handy with Aegisub? Me and a couple others are currently working on the manga, by the way.

>>14394264
wow is it that obscure?

i figured any japanese tv show would be widely available.

>>14394272
Mahjong fiction is a pretty small niche.

>>14394264
You're doing God's work.

anyone know what this error is ?

i get it when the flash player is trying to load:

[error]splash: connection failed

>>14394353
You failed to connect.

>>14394361
well i dont have any internet problems : <

0:0 0:0
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0:0 1:0
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>>14394622
my tenhou isnt working so to bad hozee

any way to regain my tenhou ID ?

i cant find the ID txt file

>>14394935
Not unless you're like 7d or higher.

i dont get san ankou

can anyone explain to me why my last hand in this game was a toi toi and not san ankou ?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015112410gm-0001-0000-ae3b91c9&tw=3

>>14395052
Because you ronned that triplet? You had 2 concealed ones, the kan and the 1.

>>14395052
You can't Ron any of the triplets. Your wait has to be on a separate set/pair or you have to win by tsumo

>>14394235
It's a great show. I stopped mid-way through s2 for lack of subs
All of s1 is subbed on one of those streaming sites. Quality is hit and miss but bear with it.

https://www.viki.com/m/tv/25711c-tohai-i?page=1

are there rules bound to ippatsu?

i should have gotten one but i didnt

>>14395805
It doesn't count if someone calls any tiles before you win. Like pon, ,chi and kan

last hand

i fucking creamed my pants

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015112410gm-0001-0000-ae3b91c9&tw=3


felt like a manga

>3 player mahjong
I won't make that mistake twice.

Where can I find a list of all the words I should know for mahjong? I know all the words in chinese, but sometimes the translations aren't that straightforward. and I think japanese version changed some things?

>>14396172
See
>>14378129
The wiki has a list

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>>14396172
> Where can I find a list of all the words I should know for mahjong?

>>14396199
is obama speaking nip

That was just unlucky.
Not only was your only out taken by North, but you drew that 9 sou that would put you in furiten, and west just happened to draw a 9 sou last turn and decided to make that his chiitoitsu riichi wait and had he not riichid or ippatsued, you would have survived.

Talk about the gods conspiring against you. Guess I stole all the luck that game.

>>14396172
Osamuko.

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Even with a massive lead and another player on 0 points, you should never let your guard down.

>>14396796
That guy must have creamed his pants.

>>14396460
Is it just me or is it down?

>>14397032
Yep it's down for me as well.

In some irrelevant matter, xkime from that blog streams tenhou matches.

>>14390841
Maybe there's dora, riichi, ippatsu, tsumo

>>14397089
Notice how it says Ron, so it's not Tsumo. Other than that you're good.

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>>14396199
>nishanten
It's ryanshanten.

>>14397116
As long as we're not sanshanten we're good.

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Ni is ryan
Yon is suu
Go is u
Roku is ryuu
Why the fuck Japan?

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So am I 9kyu now? What just happened and how do I make it stop?

>>14397116
is this shit normal ?

most of the time i am at least 6 tiles away from tenpai

and most of the time more

>>14397354
It doesn't happen all the time, but it isn't extremely rare either.

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>>14378060
I suck, severily

but in front of my normie friends I look like I'm an erudite

Could you post your stats if you don't mind? I'd like to see more people's to get a feel for how I'm going

>>14397429
i still dont understand the stats even with the cheat sheet.

i need like arrows pointing towards stuff and shit.

How dedicated are you guys to Japanese terminology? I use a mixture of jp and English names based on how they flow.

For example, "chanta" is super streamlined compared to "terminal or honor in each set", but fuck calling the winds anything but their English names.

>>14397447
I don't use the japanese names for the winds because I can't remember any of them but pei, which is I think north. I call the dragons by their proper names.

>>14397447

I remembered reading manga that used the jp names so I switch back and forth a bit :
N-Pei E-Ton S-Nan W-Xia

The dragons are:
Red- Chun White-Haku and I actually don't remember green

>>14397447
I use complete Japanese terminology, including calling the number tiles with their chinese number

Stuff like calling the 5sou "uusou", or 9pin "Chuupin"

I figured anything less than this would mean being a worse player, like those goofs who don't even remember yaku names or call them with english equivalents.
Besides, anyone I would ever play mahjong with is either Japanese or a weeb just in virtue of knowing the game, so what's the point of showing ignorance by using english nomenclature?

>>14397477
Green is hatsu

>>14397447
I use all Japanese terminology in my head, but when I am talking to others I call winds by their English equivalent, and instead of saying shit like "ryanwan" I say "two-wan." It sounds weird but most people won't know what I'm talking about otherwise.

Memorizing winds is easy to remember if you know Japanese, since they all follow on-yomi except Xia (west).

>>14397510
I use complete German terminology when playing Catan, including calling the resources with their German names.

Stuff like calling the brick "Mauerziegel", or wood "Holz"

I figured anything less than this would mean being a worse player, like those goofs who don't even remember the whole instruction manual in the German original or remember the English translation.
Besides, anyone I would ever play mahjong with is either German or a euroboo just in virtue of knowing the game, so what's the point of showing ignorance by using English nomenclature?

>>14397544
>Besides, anyone I would ever play mahjong with
You tried.

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>>14397544
>Being this bitter over not being able to remember hands and terminology properly

You probably play with one tab open so you can check on yaku and rules constantly.

>>14397553
>bitter
N'aww mate, I'm simply amused that some people really believe in language superiority.
I remember most of the Japanese yaku even though I just started Japanese mahjong a few days ago, having been a Chinese mahjong player.

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1:0

>>14397447
I use complete japanese terminology. Not because "anything less would mean being a worse player" though. Just because as someone who learned japanese as a second language and english as third it's just easier for me.

>>14397116
I'm kind of happy people are posting my crappy edit from half a decade ago, but pointing out that is still embarassing. I vaguely remember knowing that tiles to tenpai aren't counted with regular numbers, but not giving a fuck at that time.
Also, someone edited the chanta and tanyao swap, which doesn't really make sense since the comic is trying to convey the frustation of one big comeback hand getting ruined by the cheapest and easiest to complete yaku.

>>14397866
Shut up chink

>>14397916
I always wanted to tell you that the punch line was awful. Like, that insult is absolutely lame. Just the reaction would suffice.

I'm glad I have the opportunity to get that off my chest.

back from 1300 to 1500 by grinding east wind only games.

still feel like it was pure luck

i have no idea how to git gud.

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COMPLETE AND UTTER ZAWA

>>14398131
Discard terminale, honors , never from 3 to 7. Riichi only if you have at least 2 dora already. No stupid kan

>>14398267
i mean i am doing that already

(except for the ricchi i aint no pussy)

there must be more to this game right ?

3:0

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>>14397429

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This guy is a tenhoui now.

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Fukuchi is a famous mahjong blogger/author.

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Kawamura was a popular streamer, his main account was 9d. You're not allowed to livestream houou matches though, so he used this one when he was still alive.

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Kihara is another famous blogger/streamer. He used to be 10d. I think he's in a pro league too, but I forget which one. Saikouisen maybe?

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>>14397429

I'm >>14391035. It improved a little.

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My rating is shit, can it still be salvaged?

>>14399745
Yeah. The less games you have, the more your rating will move around.

>>14378245
Please tell me you've been playing in the multiplayer mode and not the computer mode, that would be embarassing if you weren't.

Also there are 'better' players once you get to the coin-betting matches.

Osamuko's still down. What happened? ;_;

>>14400437
Maybe he's been contacted by a corrupt detective who has ties to the Yakuza. This shady cop has become aware of Osamukos mahjong skill and he's looking to take advantage of that.
He arranged a match between Osamuko and an old man who made a hundreds of billions in shady dealings during the post-war era. This old man enjoys playing young men for their blood against his money.
It's a possibilty we can't ignore.

Since mahjong plays like a card game, what other card games do you jay peas play?

>>14399745
What? You have an average place of 2.40, which is really good. 25 games is far from enough to say anything about skill, though.

>>14402528
Baten kaitos

>>14402528
None. I used to play online poker, been out of it for a while now.

>>14402777
Poker is fun. I've been meaning to try bridge some day.

Just played that Sega mahjong game for Android someone recommended last thread. It's better than expected, the 3D graphics are great and you also have some hype japanese guy commentating your matches.

>>14402970
I play virtual tenho-g if I need to use my phone.

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Stupid question. Can tsumo be the yaku for your hand? Did I just fuck up under the assumption that "tsumo" would be on the left when it was really on the right, or was there actually no "tsumo" to pick in the first place?

>>14403480
No

>>14403480
Tsumo is closed hand only.

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>>14403480
>>14403494
I don't know but this happened to me. Obviously I didn't have any yaku other than drawing the tsumo tile.

>>14403555
Then yes

Anyone up for a round or two?

>>14403597
I'll join in a moment.
I do hate Adobe.

>-23000
Oops.

>>14403847
Welp. 9 uradora is now my record.

2:4

>>14403859
It was a fun loss, what a surprise.

jpBSD here. Did I make any obvious mistakes?
What do you peeps think?

>>14404126
You sucked major balls

>>14402528
Mostly Magic, Weiss Schwarz and Wixoss though I rarely get to play the latter two.

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>>14403420
It's fun

>>14404392
I'm bad too.

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>>14404392
Why is there a girl in a chicken suit?

>>14404392
Be wary of that game, and single player mahjong in general. You'll get to a point where you beat the shit out of the bots without breaking a sweat, and pick up some very bad habits while doing so.

Play human opponents as often as you can.

That game has a really fun practice mode that helps to drill yaku and scoring. Better play with that if you have a spare minute

>>14404428
It was fun raping bots in VirtuaTenhou.

Don't worry mate, I'm doing fine. I hate to quote myself twice but, >>14399693 is me.

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Open kan. Not even once.

>>14405358
Am I retarded or is that hand just Yakuhai w. 4 Dora? Also 1:0

>>14405837
It is. The point is that it's during a west round when he already has a hand worth enough points to push him over 30k. His pointless kan won me the game.

3:0

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That was a pretty disappointing hand. You took east from me for that?

Damn.

I was literally trying to deal to deal in to end this slow as fuck game and I didn't even get to do that. I'd have had more fun in the pon palace.

3:0

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>single wait on the Haku

2:0

>>14410133
LETS GO BITCHES

NGGG

haneman

why would you end my dealership with 1000 points if i am so far ahead : <

my hon itsu ;-;

>>14378060
3.0

>>14378060
too bad nobody give me chun

>>14410254
just checked, both chun were in the dead wall

Hey /jp/ so I come from a family who primarily plays a chinese variation of mahjong that never uses scoring (no weird colored pieces, no seasons/flowers), where can I read about this? I tried playing a flash thing about richi mahjong, but I kept getting some thing like no multiplier when I think I win.
Basically what situations would result in you not winning?

>>14410427
google yaku

>>14410427
>Basically what situations would result in you not winning?
You're asking from the wrong perspective. You should ask "what situations would result in you being able to win?" The answer to that is of course the yaku which were likely displayed at the bottom of the flash game played.

>>14410427
The wiki is helpful:arcturus.su

I'll condense the basics of winning though for the hell of it.

Basically how you win is you need 4 melds(runs of 3 numbers or triplets) and a pair, there are a couple exceptions to this but generally that's your hand set up. Additional you need to have at least 1 Yaku for your hand to count, this is the first thing you should learn check the list on the wiki. An additional point about winning is if you've discarded a tile that could have been a winning tile (not just the tile you use to win any that could complete the hand) then you can only win by drawing your tile, not off of other players.

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>>14410445
>>14410447
Could I have some insight from a japanese mahjong player as to why I couldn't win in these two situations?
(sorry for low quality, I recorded this a few weeks ago and it didn't seem to come out very good)

>>14410470
google furiten

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>>14410470
Every thread

>>14410470
Second one is definitely no Yaku, first one is hard to tell but I think it's the same issue.

When you're a beginner I advise against calling tiles too much because you can always get Yaku by declaring riichi.


Seriously go learn this list.

http://arcturus.su/wiki/List_of_yaku

>>14410497
thansk man

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>>14410427
http://i.imgur.com/gU4R0E6.jpg

>>14410617
does furetin apply on trsumo as well?

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>>14410632
Of course. Also print this http://mahjong-europe.org/docs/riichi_sheet_EN.pdf

>>14410640
>>14410632
I'm pretty sure ot does not apply to tsumo

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>>14410640
Wait, wtf am I saying. You can tsumo anytime when you’re in tenpai and you have a yaku.

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>>14410632
Your fucked up grammar confused me.

>>14410655
sorry, I'm just getting confused with all this ron tsumo han yaku pon pon kan stuff

I am going to play mahjong in real life today.
What do I need to know so I don't make a fool of myself

>>14410949
Make the hands last, unless you have one of those fancy automatic tables

>>14410949
Riichi?

>>14410949
I suggest watching a YouTube video about setup. Online/electronic mahjong does this automatically so your exposure is null. Keep in mind that aside from the direction of the tiles you draw, everything is counter clockwise.

Also, don't try fancy hand tricks with your tiles, they'll go flying everywhere.

Here's the good news: since you're irl, there's not going to be an annoying timer so take your time choosing your discards

>>14410949
Pre-mature riichi is a lot more intimidating in real life.
Also, it's a lot easier to read the atmosphere of the table

>>14410949
if you feel the flow, riichi

Just curious, have you guys tried the different versions of Mah Jong besides the Japanese one?

>>14411096
I tried Hong Kong.
I don't like it

>>14411096
Hong Kong and Taiwanese. It wasn't until I played those that I realized how much riichi has going for it strategically. There's no strategy or pressure in those variants. It's pon palace the game.

>>14411111
Have you guys heard the Filipino version? I heard its similar to Taiwanese but when i watch people play it seems more intense and requires more strategy to "sagasa" your opponent. Idk ive only really played Filipino version but i would like to try different ones of course.

>>14411048
Yes Riichi
>>14411052
Oh, I didn't realize that the direction of the tile that was on the side indicated which player it was taken from.

>>14410949
You're not bound to organizing your tiles a certain way so do whatever is easiest, but keep in mind others are watching closer when you discard, so it might be better to put honor tiles in the middle rather than on the rightmost area, and have your next discards ready on the rightmost instead before you turn comes up so you give up the least info possible.

Also, for advanced mind games, flip tiles upside down for no reason, even if they look identical right side up or upside down. If players pay attention to that, you can fool players into thinking you have certain tiles when you really don't.

>>14411472
Also, if you're left handed make the left side your most active side. That way, you discard faster, and there's less chance of knocking over tiles and embarrassing yourself.

>>14411052
>Also, don't try fancy hand tricks with your tiles, they'll go flying everywhere.
Too bad, I always wanted to try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW2zmFFCUHQ

>>14411296
>Filipino
http://mahjong.wikidot.com/rules:filipino-scoring

This is weird as fuck. Not only are all the points in money, but the scoring is weird too. Having a single closed kan is worth as much as a chinitsu.

>>14411296
I slightly know how to play it. It's pretty straightforward when I played it and calling is way more often than closed hands. There's this thing as well where we discard the honor tiles called "flowers" in the beginning of a match and if you discard 13 flowers by the end of the game you end up with more money. It's made for gambling.

>>14411096
I play old hong kong and WMO rules and really think they're superior games to Japanese mahjong.
WMO? OP's picture.

>quiet, boring uneventful day

Guess I'll look up some players

>as soon as game starts, shit starts to break, phone rings, every nigger in the house needs something from me

EVERYTIME

>>14412473
i know that feeling

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>>14411775
>>14412128
Yeah pretty much, lol its modified mahjong a way that you can earn a bunch if money i guess. It gets intense watching a table of pros back home. Is it like completely different than the other versions though? I do want to start playing japanese and chinese mahjong

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Ok.

>>14412575
Don't play Japanese mahjong. It's all luck since you aren't allowed to open your hand unless you have a yakuman.

>>14412690
Four reaches aborts and restarts the round.

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>>14412692

>>14412716
>not realising chinese mahjong is the best mahjong
Stay a weeb, weebman.

>>14412726
Stay deluded, chink.

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>>14412726
Who ye quote?

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>>14412726
What's so great about Chinese mahjong? When I played it was who could call tiles the fastest
There's no decision making involved

>>14412575
Surprised to see a Flip here. Riichi mahjong is plenty different given that it doesn't encourage opening hands every time and honor tiles are actually useful.

>>14412726
I guess it's okay if you're looking for a game that is based purely on luck.

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>>14412692
> aren't allowed to open your hand unless you have a yakuman.
I’d look at a retard dealing into your hand with open 6s, 8s and hatsu pons.

>>14412784
Are you talking about japanese or chinese?

>>14412771
It's much more logical and elegant.
The decision-making lies in making 8 fan rather than 1 yaku, leading to more creativity and urgency.

>>14412473
What happens when you're forced to leave/disconnect?

Does it count as a loss with -1000 points or something?

>>14412917
Okay. You're right.

>>14412967
wait what

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>>14412917
> 1 yaku

>>14412989
Eight or more fan rather than one or more yaku.

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>realise I said fan every time i wanted to say points
>explained things about chinese mahjong wrong
time to commit sudoku

Anyways, the fun thing is that some fan are worth less than 8 points, and some fan are worth more than 8 points, but you need 8 points to declare mahjong.
Thus you aren't stuck waiting for one fan worth many points if you know how to combine multiple low-points fan.

>>14413062
Don't worry everyone thought you were just shitposting anyway

>>14412692
>>14412726
>>14412784
I haven't fully learnt jap mahjong yet, but this is literally the same conclusion that i came up with. It seems so luck based, and it seems like the whole point of it is money and gambling. I want to play a game that is about the fun or strategy/mindgames, not just "hurr I win if the guy at 东 doesn't", and the games don't revolve around reaching the 7th to last tile as a win condition.

>>14414385
also i didnt read the third quote properly, didnt mean to quote it

>>14414385
Mahjong is primarily about probability and knowing when to go for it or hold back. It's even more probability-based than most gambling games like poker and blackjack so stop crying and git gud

>>14414396
>It's even more probability-based than most gambling games like poker and blackjack
Yeah, no.

>>14414624
Obviously if you don't really know how to play the game and are only playing newbies, you'll think that way, especially if you have alot of experience with poker. Poker is just quicker to learn and its much quicker to finish a round or even leave a game, while for mahjong, you're expected to finish all four dealer turns the same number of times or it wouldn't be fair.

>>14414771
I'm just assuming he doesn't know how to play like you said. What really got me is that he thinks blackjack is less probability based than mahjong. You have to be a class-A kind of retard to seriously believe that.

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>>14414790
B-b-but haven't you seen serious Blackjack tournaments where the best card counters of the world gather and see who is the best strategic mastermind in the world of blackjack.

Oh the old mahjong vs poker discussion. Personally I believe much closer to chess than poker, hear me out.
I play mostly riichi, and unless a player has a specific leak which is painfully obvious, I see no reason to ever adjust my play according to their style of play. To clarify, I do try to take into account score differences, possible hands being made, all the information available to me. However what I don't believe is that it's worthwhile to observe a player and tailor my play to counter a certain playstyle. This leads me to think that mahjong is closer to chess, where the only way to evaluate a situation is pure objectivity, than, say, poker, where past history is a very real consideration.

>>14414835
When I play with friends, I am much more likely to adapt to specific players and their styles.
Like how my friend adapts to my style, and always has the most bullshit waits that make his hand not as valuable, but I end up playing into because why the fuck would you wait on that 3 man

>>14414835
True if you play with at least good to very good players, if you play with new or intermediate players observing how they play can be a pretty decent advantage, though, as they might make some habitual mistake that you can profit from if you know them.

>>14415420
This playing stile will more often bite your friend in the ass than it helps him, though. Waiting on less tiles is rarely a good idea, because even if you wait on tiles that look safer, there is still the possibility that the tiles you need are in the dead wall or that your opponent continues to play offensively anyway. Personally the only instance where I actually consider how safe my wait looks is when I utilize a suji trap. A Kanchan or penchan wait becomes much more usefull when it's suji, so this will often make me call riichi with such a wait, which I might not do otherwise.

>>14415507
Depends what play style you are going for, if you are playing for "not last place", then playing in such a way that traps players who run out of tiles makes sense.

>>14414835
>thinking chess is objectivity
I have news for you: most of the current chess masters do not play the board.

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>>14417146
>in a tense spot
>two players are riichi and the other has chun and hatsu pon'd
>my hand is a mess, trying to beatori
>am east, libel to pay out the ass
>sweating bullets
>out of nowhere, all tiles revealed, get paid 4000
>won the game because some dipshit chombo'd on a furiten tile

Welp.

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Time for a nice relaxing game of mahjong
>Game ends in two rounds.

O-okay