When I dry my onahole there's hardly any dampness on the cloth, yet the inside feels dry. Before I use it the next day, I'll put my finger in it and it will feel very cold (I store it in a drawer). Could fungus still grow from it just being cold?
I had an idea while laying in bed delaying waking up.
If you have a air-release type but want to try vacuum style without needing a third arm, mix up some cornstarch clay and form a custom plug, then dry or bake it so its solid. Obviously make it a little bit bigger so it holds.
Haven't tried it myself, but this should work just fine.
>>14318962 For me its a waste of money, time and space to buy so many onaholes. Perhaps for collection value you could find some kind of reasoning but usage and maintenance its a "waste"of effort in my eyes.
>>14318962 >>14319613 also the list you posted from nls and the current you have (with some exceptions) have the similar pattern. they offer basically the same size and stimulation because their design don't change dramatically that you could say that B is much better than A. So you are paying more or less for the same onahole but re-branded repackaged and advertise as completely new experience product.
If you have the money then go for meiki plush doll (if you don't own already) and one each onahole that is the best in its class. Oral (you have already) Vaginal and anal. And you are pretty much set for life.
>>14319801 I think they will hold their price or even drop a bit since they can produce larger quantities. I still can't decide between Venus Clone or Lilith Uterus, i'm tending to second. Soft is the way to go isn't it? How soft is very soft? Also the new Magic eyes looks tempting AF.
Someone pity me, my dakimakura pillow is in customs and biginjapan is too stupid to give me a proper invoice.
>>14319872 You still don't have Tomax toy? Venus VS Lilith Hard VS Soft
Your dick will accommodate to softer material and texture itself after time with each use, the difference between two are sublime but with 2 key differences.
(I have Venus Real and Lilith Uterus)
Lilith is from my point of view tighter hole that I presume feels like mature 20+ year old woman. It has a decent suction and extra chamber filled with bonus content if you can reach it. The texture is pretty much the same, very busy intense with low stimulation organic design to mimic the real vagina interior.
Venus (Real) have the same features (material, texture) but it is heavier and more comfortable to use hands free because of size and weights more. In opposite of Lilith it has a slightly curved canal to give a sensation of pushing against your dick and G spot.
>>14319927 >You still don't have Tomax toy? Too lazy too forward, also i just forwardet the first time and it's a disaster (see dakimakura pillow). Did anyone let NLS backorder it from daimaoh? I'm also not willing to tip omochajews 40quid. >soft I already killed 3 onaholes i don't want to impale my soft or very soft tomax hole after some uses (7.5" here) >venus vs lilith Pros lilith: Cheap Great uterus texture (for low thrusts) no extreme texture for longer seasons. pro venus: Great G-Spot (i love teasing my dick at Rinas G-Spot but it's way to near to the entrance) Extremer texture for high quality orgasms if i can master her better hands free hole (this is important, i can't use any of my holes handsfree) Thanks for your feedback, i'll probably go with Venus clone, but i might consider going for The real.
>>14320125 >someone else did the forwarding for me it's called proxy >btw you can use the pillow technique for any hole to basically make em handsfree. i can't do that with my VW and Rina Big. I already tried it multiple times. I can only get my dick halfway into Rina and VW is just a mess due to her special architecture, I had no problems with my Lolinco but she's dead.
I have a lilith uterus soft. Is it worth it to get a venus real? If so, what firmness, I was thinking about another soft but I don't know if regular firmness was better. Any advice from people who possibly have both?
http://www.wildone.co.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=2742 Does anyone own the G MODE giant tatas that would be willing to make a video? I can only find the basic video of the product page. I know Ai chan is better, but I still want to see how these are.
ive don it nao arry potta. i'm going to write a fucking review of this because nobody bought this apparently... yet the reviews on a few sites have said nothing but good things about it. let's see if it a fluke
>>14319695 >>14319695 Nah, its a totally different feeling. A real human vagina is far more interactive. Also sex is more of a mental thing than a physical thing, and you cant replicate the human element of sex.
Onaholes feel similar to vaginas but like the exact same thing...its kinda like a pizza flavored potato chip compared to a real pizza- vaguely similar but not a 1 to 1. Then again I haven't use a "vagina" simulated onahole in a bit...my last was the meiki ZXY a few years back.
>>14320125 Dude, just buy your tomax toys by Amazon and have them deliver to a 7-11 amazon box.
One of the Amazon drop 7-11s is on my old university's campus. It is kind of a thrill to remove the brown amazon box and tuck the colorful loli onahole box under my arm and walk back through campus to my car. Its an extra thrilling lewd feeling.
>>14321539 I'm im the process of trying to get it, I hope he hasn't sold it already. I have some excess money and a place to store. I just hope I can make it in time, I'm looking forward to a hands free experience.
>>14321625 No, I usually shop with NLS. I just wanted to visit toydemon today and saw this huge ass banner about a sale. I figured I could pick up a pricey onahole for cheap at 20% off. But youre not really saving anything.
>>14322032 Its just a generic design for the hole. Its not modeled after the actress shes just on the box for marketing. Tamatoys has a line of "premium" holes modeled after spme actresses (like Uehara Ai). This hole is not one of them im sure you can get better for the price
Hey /ona/ is it me or are onahole in Japan really targeted towards students/otakus I mean most onahole can be bought with a pocket allowance. If you look at products like tenga or flesjlight are jew priced at like $70-80.
Alright, i finally decided to order one. It should be here next Tuesday. Gotta take a day off since i wouldn't want any of my roommates to open my package. Soon i will know the secret of what is so great about these things.
>>14324736 What softness do you have? I've got regular and have not found them to be oily at all. Then again I never use them for "intimate" use so I've only washed it a few times and kept it out of the case on a book shelf with a microcloth above it and below it.
>>14324560 Do your roommates actually open up your mail? Thats really messed up. There is nothing on the box that says "SEX TOY OPEN ME UP WORLD"
>>14324388 Sex toys for males are considered more taboo because "they dont need it". Males cum so easily they dont need more than their hand so it is weird to use anything more than that.
Vibrators and dildos are OK for women because it is more difficult for them to orgasm so they should be able to use every tool they can to reach climax.
>>14323604 Just because there more you can do for butt pleasure doesnt mean that less butt pleasure doesnt feel good as well.
When you are kissing, you can use tongue and bite and suck on lips while making out. That doesnt mean that plain old simple lip making out isnt pleasureable.
>>14324388 Different material means differing costs. Market attitude is different as well.
>studtents/otaku Not really. Just because a similar product in the market has a higher price doesn't mean that the ones with the lower price is targeted towards anybody different. Don't even try to use analogies for this one.
If a woman's vibrator gets found its slightly embarrassing but kinda funny for all parties. There is no mystery behind it, it is what it is, and other than batteries and a motor there is nothing inside of it.
If a man "pocket pussy" gets found it is deemed gross and more likely than not thought to actively have cum in side of it at that moment. Since it is more "internal" and any thing could be on the inside it (cum, dick cheese, mold, ect.). The idea of the unknown is more threatening and potentially gross.
Also women are considered cleaner than men so it is easier to imagine a woman thoroughly cleaning her sex toy and a man just reusing and neglecting to clean his sex toy.
Its funny because all of this applies in reverse to the genders feeling about their own genitals. It is very common for women to be embarrassed about their vagina because it is internal and more closed in, as opposed to a male whose penis is external and is pretty much what you see is what you get.
Hey /jp/, /r9k/ here. I'm thinking about getting an onahole because my curiosity is getting the better of me and I want to see how it compares to the real thing. However, I was looking over the guide and it advised that I not go to J-list. Is there a reason for this?
it's really nice, it's super fucking soft, like, softer than kunoichi soft on the outside, with a firmer, more traditional magic eyes dual layer material on the inside, and IMO, they've combined some good aspects of both holes, the firmer material allows for a solid feel to the textures and the softer outside lets you push in without any real resistance, they advertise you use the hole by stretching it while letting the base sit on your crotch, but I feel like that's only good for just mixing it up every now and then, mine came with a sort of pinhole through the back that lets bits of lube and water and such go through, but my MoT had that too and it didn't cause any huge problems, the only complain I have about it is that it's kind of hard to dry the insides due to being both tight and soft.
>>14325433 I dont tit fuck them, I just use them for additional tit size on my Meiki Plush. At most I wash them off every few months to try to limit staining from clothes/bra coloring...but it seems to be unavoidable.
>>14325881 Please don't do these things. They crumble and self-destruct almost immediately after you put your penis onto them. It's difficult to find a cup and base that will accommodate your penis size the way you want it, and if by a miracle you manage to put it in and it doesn't self-destruct, the structure inside is featureless and boring, and it stimulates you in no way differently than your hand would, sans for more contact area. At which point, it'll tear on the back and you'll have yourself a penis-sock, which will probably rip on the side and become a penis-suit.
Some starter products on NLS are just shy of 9 dollars. Nine. You can walk down the street and buy a Tenga from your average sex shop for not much more than that. Don't waste your thick, fat, phimosis-ridden or small, cute shota dick on a fucking bowl of starch, please. Have some pride in your decision to fuck fake vaginas.
So the idea is temporarily dead for me because for some reason I packed away my busty aichans.
But I had the idea of making sort of a "plush doll daki" by buying a t-shirt of a woman's torso and putting it over the plush doll so that you can sturdily make fitments to your doll. Whether it be boobs, or stuffing around the stomach externally, you can put the attachments on in a way that may not be the most attractive, such as little bulges or seams. Then you could put a size small shirt over it so you get the hand feel of the enhancements but the look of the shirt.
>>14324280 >The guide mentions black friday sales, especially on the plush doll. Any good ones on the others? Jewdemon have some reasonable sales on at other times as well, which brings their prices closer to being acceptable. I bought a few things during their recent Halloween sale; $75 off when spending over $300, which wasn't hard to get to when starting with Meiki Cherry Evolution and it means that they can also send my replacement Meiki Real, which was born with a manufacturing defect.
>>14325977 >What da fuck is a gram in American? Learn to Google. >normal-measurement in measurement-in-murrican >350 grams in oz/lb/tsp/tbsp
So I bought the Mi-Nyan hole since that one was talked about a lot in past threads. Opened and used it yesterday, and it's pretty shite. It's small, bland inner texture, overall not too stimulating or fun, or soft. Pretty much as expected from a pretty old-gen hole I guess. Think I'm gonna thrash it since it's that bad compared to the others I have.
>>14325472 >softer than kunoichi soft on the outside, with a firmer, more traditional magic eyes dual layer material on the inside How firm is that dual layer inside? I've own kunoichi normal and didn't really like - too sticky, too loose, doesn'y hold lube and I didn't feel much from it. I have also My Trosseau which don't have very stimulating structure and I'm able to use it for 1.5h straight and it feels nice just staying inside and push from time to time. Thats why I wonder if soft holes are actually for me. So I'm planning to buy both this and venus real or they are actually quite similiar and it's waste?
How that hole cling to you in the enterance and hold lube?
>>14329200 1 packet got snatched by customs until now, probably because NLS doesn't include shipping on the invoice. Had to unpack and show them. They just took a glance, counting the item amount, and after paying they send me on my way with my loli holes and lube.
>>14329478 >Currently on my 2nd Stamina Training Unit >Have a Stoya Destroya >Have an Blowjob Swallow >Have an Anal Forbidden
Honestly I cant feel the difference in the sensation other then more tight and less tight.
The problem with the Fleshlight is the plastic casing. You cant "break in" plastic, there is no room for the "rubber" to expand to comfortably fit you. I'm not trying to brag, but my dick is a big around as most people are long.
I've already broken 2 R-20s, both by wearing out holes in the side because they are forced to expand out too wide. That is how I break every onahole I've ever had (killed 2 Meikis the same way).
My MOT is collecting dust because of the PTSD I have thanks to scrape job the teeth do on my dick. The teeth have no place left to run except to clamp down on my dick.
>>14329900 We have similar dick sizes and toys. In my own experience, I started feeling the Destroya after 50 or so uses, and after a year of use, I ended up destroying it. It wasn't soft anymore, but the points at the end made me cum instantly. I had to stop using it because of how intense it got due to the wear and looseness.
Similar thing happened to my first two Swallows over the course of around 4 years. I also ruined a SB and WW. Maybe I'm just more compulsive in my toy use.
I have a MOT, and ended up taking out the teeth after a few uses. It was fine at first, but it seriously sensitized my dick after a week. I love it and use it occasionally, and they should really make a bigger (life-sized) one.
Maybe the FL cases are too small, I just don't know because it's what I'm used to. I'll try a R-20.
Unrelated, but I just bought a Meiki Plush. Fucking a toy like a great way for me to get out of the jerking-off-with-a-toy habit.
>>14330029 Not him, but holes tend to last a year tops for me, due to microtears and general wear. It'll still work after a year, but it'll be too intense from the roughness and won't feel nearly the same compared to when it was virgin.
>>14329900 >>14330035 I love the idea of a /jp/sie being so big, he literally turns his onas into a stretched-out, drained mess after using them.
It's just like in my doujinshi where big strong faceless men fuck a girl so bad, they mark them as their territory and stretch them out so much that no one else will ever want or dare to use them. The girls get addicted to /jp/sies big cocks so they won't ever feel satisfied sleeping with another male too. It's soooo romantic~
>>14330029 My my 1st STU died after 3 years (usage varied wildly from upwards of 3 times a day to not being used for 4 months) because I was using the wrong type of soap to clean it and never cornstarched it.
I'll be honest, I thought you were semi-trolling about the break in period of the Fleshlights.
After about 5 uses of the Stoya, and 2-3 uses of the Forbidden and Oral I got frustrated and gave up on Fleshlight. After a thorough cleaning and cornstarching, I now only use them to simulate kissing, clit licking, and rimming every once in a blue moon with use with my Meiki Plush.
My Meiki ZXY lasted 3-4 months of about once daily use.
My Meiki Maria lasted 6 months of about once daily use.
Have a Wet Monster Chimera collecting dust because it is too shallow for me, and the aforementioned dick biting MoT.
First R-20 lasted a solid 9-10 months of 2ish daily uses.
Second R-20 lasted 3 months of 2ish daily uses (upwards of 4x a day on weekends)
I will note that I may have helped contribute to the deaths of my R-20s. I'm not rough but I do tend to try to use less lube and I make it a point to use of the vacuum functionality. However the spot in which the R-20s wore out in the same exact spot in the same way, with the same microtears...so I wonder if there is a weakness in the interior pattern since it is not consistent all the way around.
I am currently 2 weeks into my Witch's Temptation (about twice daily use) and am really enjoying it. It seems even more sturdy than the R-20. I'm hoping since its interior design seems the same all the way around, I wont experience the same weakness.
>>14330029 No onahole purchases for a while, but I'm interested in either the Venus (Have a Meiki Plush, but rarely use it) or Lolinco Virgo, as I'm excited about onahole companies making products for "Western" dicks.
Sorry for the blog post...I was not expecting this to be so long.
>>14330245 >I'll be honest, I thought you were semi-trolling about the break in period of the Fleshlights.
It's personal taste, but I prefer soft and less intense, so I could just edge with it all day until my dick releases massive pleasure with each stroke. I don't really get "frustrated." And that's probably how I ruin them in short periods of time.
I'll try the Witch's Temptation, because I could use another perspective.
>>14330279 If you like soft and less intense I dont know if the Witch's Temptation is for you.
Have you used the R-20 before? Its similar in hardness to that but with a more tame interior pattern but a MUCH stronger vacuum.
I mean vacuum so strong that mid-session I've stopped to grab a glass of water and rather than removing the onahole I just threw on some sweat pants and the hole remained clamped to me all the way up and down the stairs.
I've yet to be able to go have a session last much longer than an hour & 15 mins.
>>14330302 I haven't tried the R-20. Money isn't an object to me, so I can try both, And I'm sure I can get used to anything after a few days of use.
Suction never really interested me because I find that it interferes with the texture.
My longest session was probably about 3 hours or close to that using a few months old Destroya. Each stroke gave an intense euphoria, and I probably fucked an opioid receptor or two in my brain during that. I would sorta dose off every time I reached the peak and keep my eyes half open, occasionally glancing over at the time.
>>14330354 Fair enough. I'm also leaning towards continuing with ToysHeart Safeskin products. I am fairly lazy and find cornstarching incredibly tedious. Its part of the reason I retired my Fleshlights.
I love the convenient clean up. Any word on the cornstarching needed on Tomax toys?
Are there any other onaholes other than Toysheart's Safeskins that dont require cornstarching?
Also what soaps are you guys using? I've been using some gentle formula antibacterial handsoap...maybe that is hurting my onaholes?
Hey there, stopping by again to see any any recommendations have changed. My GitB has lost all of the second inside layer and looking at a lot of reviews and impressions I was thinking of possibly just getting another one, or a HARD version. I like the softness and bulk of GitB and the cavity at the end (part of why I picked up vac witch).
Is there something else like a kunoichi (What's difference in new one?) I should look at? I tried a Lilith Spiral before and was horribly underwhelmed.
Main hole: GitB Side holes: Lolinco, Vacuum Witch Don't use: 17 Evo, Venus something, Lilith spiral, SHIN meiki wet(?)
Have any of you guys tried the "Daisuke hold loving gf" onahole? I'm thinking about ordering it from j-list but I've heard some bad reviews. Plus I'm a first time buyer and I'm afraid they won't be discreet.
>>14331367 That'd be the main reason I'd buy one. They look really nice, and and the price isn't too bad if you consider how much some people spend on sex toy collections. But onahole business would be icing on the cake.
has anyone ever tried this before? it looks interesting but I have no clue if its any good or not, and cleaning it up might be a pain in the ass I'm prolly gonna buy a kunoichi soft instead cuz I heard it was p. good
What lube should I get from coolmaxsextoy? I will be ordering ToysHeart's Erotic Elder Sister as my first onahole, but this site doesn't seem to be selling any of the lubes recommended in the guide. I'm ordering from there because I want to limit the costs and live in Canada so have to pay shipping, so I won't order from more than one website.
>>14331401 I got it, it was amusing as a novelty, but was by far the worst hole I have ever used. As the other annon said it's a pain in the ass to clean, and has ABSOLUTELY NO TEXTURE, at most you just feel slight pressure as if to remind you you're not quite fucking air. Also smells like ass, even unused. I just got rid of the goop inside and kept the can, which is pretty cool.. smell still hasn't gone away though
>>14331629 Ok after looking more it seems NLS might be a better choice. Am I doing this right? Getting anything wrong here? I have a bit of remorse on spending 75$ CAD on plastic vagina and tools so I don't want to fuck this up. My dick size is pretty much average for a westerner if that matters
onaholes last only 1 time, maybe 2 and cost at minimum, 20+ dollars which only includes the one time use lubricant
meanwhile a condom thats sized larger than your penis properly would need, can be slid back and forth over it and then leave zero mess and can be used as many times as you want till it wears out, then you throw it away
and each one costs literally pennies, since a 100 pack will cost just 15 dollars, at most 20 if you get a "ribbed" or other gimmick version
>>14331767 >>14331789 You must ask yourself the following questions. Is the investment of 3000+ USD for full sized doll is worth besides of you being horny?
a - non removable single pussy/anal holes that quality is questionable, what you get is what you stick with b - cleaning and maintenance (!!!) c - storage
When meiki plush dolls gives you more possibilities, more expansions and more variety how would you like to customize your overall experience.
a - attachable tits, different size, different brand b - small and lighter plush doll to clean and maintain and store c - you can place any onahole you want, so if don't like one you can put another one without limiting yourself
I would be completely fucked up beyond recognition to buy full sized doll to just cuddle with. Perhaps its a nice hobby for those who collect them, they have space, and patience to clean it from all mold and everything. But as "toy" to have the most immersion is a waste of time and money.
>>14331844 So it's not just a toilet paper roll now, anon? It's a sock too?
Are you pulling my leg here? Seen too many doujinshi where the girl takes her sock out and uses it to jerk the MC and it got to your head? Are you a foot fetishist by chance?
Nothing against foot fetish you know, but if you really want to screw a sock, you can just buy some pantyhose and have a go, no toilet roll required. If you're going to follow through on a bad idea, at least expedite the process.
>>14331815 >non removable single pussy/anal holes Some manufacturers offer removable ones too, you know. I haven't dealt with a single manufacturer that isn't helpful in regards to their processes and products. Retailers or resellers however, may not be as useful.
Like with all things market-related, send them an email with a question and hope they give out a good response. Apart from that, this post is pretty spot on.
If the poster is still looking for dolls, ask yourself those questions, and if you are prepared, >>14250798 . Dolls are an investment you should be willing to take care of. The price itself is pretty okay with all the processes involved, to be quite honest. If you don't want those, there are also Western manufacturers and companies that make dolls, albeit rather AV based. Best to do some research, like with all things.
>>14331914 >Ask about dolls, get answers regarding dolls. The point is that investment is absolute shit and has shit value. I want to see a guy who will bath the fucking doll after each use to avoid mold and stench.
>>14331941 >The point is that investment is absolute shit and has shit value. An investment's worth is up to the investor to decide. If you see more value in paying another person for sexual gratification, then go for it and don't bitch about other things you can do with that money. I don't see you making any points regarding the pros and cons of either "investment", long term or not.
>mold and stench You have presented zero knowledge of any of the materials and variables involved, resorting to blanket statements regarding a product you deem inferior to a short term service. Susceptibility to either is dependent on many things, and you have stated none.
This is an onahole thread, not one for hookers or monetary matters. If you want to discuss how you want to, or how you want others to spend their money, go somewhere else. If you want to convince users to make, in your opinion, a better investment with a short-term service instead of a long-life product, then you better back up your facts with enough reasonable points - hopefully enough to convince.
Thank you, at least, for using capitals and punctuation.
>>14331974 >hookers I have only made a simple example with hookers, (and what not) that includes a huge amount of money, just for the sake of immersion or exceptional sexual experience then there "are" possibilities that involve better use of that money in my opinion.
Heck, you can build yourself for less than 500 USD a dream plush doll set up with tits and couple of vaginal inserts that are Tip-Top on the market.
>This is an onahole thread, not one for hookers or monetary matters.
If this was not a case at all then people wouldn't ask xx times where they can get for the lowest price their onahole of choice. So its important part that needed to be considered and addressed before buying for such amount of money any doll.
This sounds like less rational thinking and more like being horny driven by your imagination rather what will you gonna do, after.
>>14331974 >You have presented zero knowledge of any of the materials and variables involved
Indeed I have no idea from what material are these made of, but I highly presume its from TPE or some kind of branch from it, so there is that. Unless it was sculptured from human skin alive and attached to the doll.
>>14332024 >If this was not a case at all then people wouldn't ask xx times where they can get for the lowest price their onahole of choice.
You could at least lurk for a bit before making a stupid comment like this. The guide in the OP is in a big link telling you what the best products and websites are to buy and what to avoid. Everyone who reads it inherently knows that the average price of a decent hole is 20-30 dollars, and the price of a good doll is around 220 dollars, so you don't actually see people asking about it.
You said yourself you have no idea what you're talking about. Clearly you weren't lying about that.
>>14332024 >just for the sake of immersion or exceptional sexual experience then there "are" possibilities that involve better use of that money in my opinion. I agree. You get things like BDSM services and all sorts of play, depending on the service provider. I assumed that the topic at hand was simple sex, but clearly I was wrong. Of course, a buyer will have to decide if the very flexible yet short term service outweighs the product.
As for building a plush doll, you can certainly make one with the appropriate skill sets, and you can indeed get one made if you find the right people. If we're talking about full sized 20+kg dolls, head and all, then a plush isn't really the best option if you care about the weight.
>monetary matters Well that depends. The topic at hand involves much more money than the average onahole purchase. Size of purchase aside, my point was regarding how you spend that money. If course, the cheaper option would be the most desired for the same product, but we're discussing the value of a doll compared to a service. I referred to monetary matters as how one would spend that money. Should someone spend $120 USD on MoT from JList, we simply frown upon that purchase because of the exorbitant price compared to other retailers because both retailers offer the same product, but the product is theirs nonetheless.
>materials and variables A doll's externals are made of either a silicone mixture or TPE, the former being more used. TPE simply doesn't offer the economical benefit and durability as silicone does, but is still usable. As for care and maintenance, every person can soften and shear particulate from enamel, rub flakes of dirt and dust off with water and somehow keep a fantastic sewage system clean with a simple trip to the shower/bathroom, let alone take care of a hunk of metal and oil derivatives. Both materials are susceptible to mold and bacteria when exposed under prolonged periods of moisture and food - flakes of skin, semen and water. If you take care of things, they'll last. There are people - even at around 70 years of age, who have dedicated most of their lives collecting, storing, cleaning and showing off dolls, and I'm sure the average anon can deal with just the same thing.
At least you're rather civil and sensible about this.
In any case, it's completely up to the buyer if they deem either option logical, sane, economical, or simply put, worth it. If you think that a service is better, okay, I'm cool with that; but if someone deems it the other way, so be it.
>>14332127 >If you think that a service is better, okay, I'm cool with that; but if someone deems it the other way, so be it. >>14332136 I did lurk a bit in some way, although I stand with my opinion that dolls are... risky. Very risky investment.
Seriously considering getting one of these for the first time, have some questions. I read the guide already.
I'm thinking of getting the r-20 puni from nls as my first hole, mostly because it looks pretty durable and simple, and I'm vaguely creeped out by the whole severed torso thing so many other holes have going on.
How stretchy are these? I'm about 5 3/4" around and 6 1/2" long. Should I go for a different/larger hole? Looking for something that'll hold up to ~9 uses a week for a year or so. I'll be gentle.
Do these get loud? I usually fap in the wee hours of the morning and would prefer not to wake up my roommate. If the noise is minimal or something I can drown out by turning on a fan, it's no biggie. I'm talking slow strokes here, I figure furious thrusting is gonna produce some noise.
Is there a potential for DHL shipped NLS packages to get held up coming in to the country if I'm in the US?(I'm right near Boston) Would rather I get everything squared away before he gets back from vacation on Sunday.
Toy bag size for the R-20 Puni? Thing's thick, not sure if it needs a medium.
Any suggestions/questions are welcome. Don't want to screw this up the first time around and end up with something I don't use.
PPP mystery box contents. Could have been better. Also the fuck is that vacuum thing. Its basically a rubber sock that you attach a vacuum hose to. No step in between to prevent the vac from eating the lube. I think it's getting thrown out.
Also, if we have sheep pussy now, why not harpy pussy or horse pussy, or other monstergirl pussies? I want more biodiversity in the onahole market. Owning a harem of monstergirl pussy seems like a worthwhile investment.
>>14333383 I only have Tomax Soft and Very Soft. Have to powder them both. I would rec. starting with their soft, it will be softer than most onaholes though. Regular would give a more "representative" experience to competing holes.
My lolinco survives still, had it for like 3 months. It's definitely loosened up and doesn't resist like it used to. I have been particularly careful with it to not rip anything super badly. I kind of like how it feels even more now. Still get that sensation at the front when you break the first loop but after that its definitely different.
I started with Rina and Roa, then moved on to others.
You Are Really Pervert - NLS Link - http://en-nls.com/pict1-40598?c2=12001125
SMALL, this thing is barely 4 inches long and the canal is maybe 3.5 inches. Also mine was bad quality. I could clearly see where the plug is from molding. Was terrified it was going to break even from careful use, but it did survive. I would not recommend this one.
Fluffy Sheep - NLS Link - http://en-nls.com/pict1-40514?c2=12001125
Ok so I don't really care about box art but fuck me that was spooky. It comes with some PVC sheath to put on , I didn't use it. Quality wise this one is also questionable as it has some serious lines from packing and molding left on it. Feels great though. Can't really compare it to anything because I don't have any "bumpy" style holes but I like how this one is. It's also a bit on the short side for me (6ish") but is soft enough to stretch without much issue. It's a bit thin on the back if I had to nitpick. NLS has it for $31, mine came in a $25ish mystery box. I wouldn't really be too keen on buying this one for $30 bucks plus shipping because of its questionable quality.
Overall both holes have questionable quality. I doubt they'll last more than a few uses. Buy at your own risk. Sheep feels good though.
>>14333540 Should've mentioned, I'll post reviews in sometime later this week for both of these. I'll try to get into detail for em. For those looking to make purchases now, Sheep is fine just be careful with it, Still I would spend your $30ish elsewhere. The Pervert hole is just Meh/10. It's cheap but I wouldn't even waste your money. Save up and get the Admission or something if you want a tiny toy.
I know they've been discussed before, but does anyone here own one of the Bad Dragon penetrables? If so could you maybe post comparison pictures with a common hole?
I'm an insufferable furry so I really want to get one but I've heard they're pretty disappointing. I'm also worried because I have a small dick and they seem to be pretty big compared to your average onahole.
Pros: -Great external design -Platinum cured silicone, durable as hell and extremely resistant to microbacterial growth, able to be boiled for sterilization -Long and open ended, meaning it will fit larger dongs.
Cons: -textures are boring for most of them -expensive as hell, 120-140 dollars minimum -tunnel is a bit wide -no suction unless you cap the end somehow
overall I wouldn't go for it unless you REALLY, REALLY get off on the idea that you're fucking an anthro something.
honestly bad dragon penetrables are more just disappointing than anything else, if they would just step up their game in the texture department and lower the prices a bit they could easily have great sales on them, monster girl lovers and furries alike would be happy.
>>14334562 Whatever it said when you ordered, ya dingus. When I ordered a couple of months ago the NLS site said "ETA 48 hours" for each and every one of the products and they shipped within 48 hours. If it goes beyond what they estimate, ask them, not us, what's the matter.
So... R20 and Golden Moeten for big dicks then? Venus Real and Uterus are way too expensive and don't even ship internationally apparently.
Is it still okay to order smaller holes if you're well endowed? I'm just over seven inches and scared to order anything shorter than 17cm (and there's quite a lot of that stuff on NLS). Will it rip on the other side if I go too hard on a 15cm hole, for example? Or do smaller holes still feel alright for gaijin dicks?
>>14335334 Money not being a concern and not looking for a hole, I'd say the most premium "onaholes" are the oversized more than onahole/not quite a hip holes like the cocolo or internal structure of moe body
>>14335386 Never use the Venus Real but its pretty damn realistic.
Have you ever fingered a girl and felt her G-spot. How it is at 12 o'clock/you reach it like you are trying to poke her belly button from the inside and kinda feels like chewed up bubble gum?
The ZXY replicates that feeling on the top of your dick like magic. I'd probably equate it to a Porsche- great sensation but can be fragile. Take care of it and it'll love you back. But eventually it will fall apart...its just a matter of when.
>>14334406 Jesus Christ I just tried it and it's tiring as all fuck. I did it handsfree standing and you need the hip muscles of a porn star to keep going straight to the beat; I just opted to finish myself off at 30 minutes because jesus christ I was going to fap myself to exhaustion. Might try it sitting next time; it was fun.
Alright, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a Cocolo. The thing is 163USD to ship from Japan, or I can get it off Amazon for 180 bucks. If I order it from them then I don't have to get the artwork removed since its sold domestically according to the faq, right?
>>14335386 Realistic holes offers small differences between them. The most realistic is Meiki Maria Ozawa because its 100% replica of Ozawa scanned vagina covered in soft material.
Then it comes ZXY and Lilith Uterus or Venus Real - but these two offers some additional kinkier extras (like covered with dots G spot or penetrable Uterus covered with dots) although due to their shape and texture feels very convincing and faithful to the "real" one.
>>14336743 let me elaborate, I'm on brazil so I don't have access to the better stuff (nor the money)
I already have a cyberskin hole, but its plain and simple... I was looking to get this:http://www.starsexshop.com.br/detalheProduto.asp?id=14367 but its made from silicone, seems good as its texture and easy to store but what are the cares and lubes for silicone material?
On that matter, how about Tenga eggs, what are your opinions on that? Seems cheap and pretty easy to store.
>>14336836 Even tenga cups and similar are low quality? similar like this one: http://www.starsexshop.com.br/detalheProduto.asp?id=14367
>>14336882 15 brazillian bucks, the one I've found in one place its very difficult to find quality stuff around here, how about this one, the seller says its silicone but I'm sure this is cyber http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-697021094-vaginas-masturbadora-4d-sensaco-realista-silicone-masculino-_JM
>>14337972 >>14337973 Well it sure looks dangerous if bursting out a large amount of water.. but an inch of cyber look enough to be safe for normal usage... The idea I think its the water will have pressure on the tube inside... the movement looks really though, the buoyancy it has...
> Ferran fresh innocence What about this one, looks delicious as well, and you could slap it without worrrying.... I"ve seen plenty of videos but couldn't find any official site for the maker...
>>14338104 I for one wondered how the original fleshlights feel like for a long time... having mostly second grade copies, I can only fantasize about it Would have thought after years, it would be more spread/cheaper and easy to find... but no
>>14338130 second grade copies like this: http://www.sexshopatacadao.com.br/masturbador-lanterna-ma011-p1662 What I actually got is one step worse... it doesn't even have a cup... thats why I was interested about the magical kiss cup > internal texturing, cup for storage and less attention
Warning for the vacuum master hole, Japan might be using different size vacuums. All three vacuums in my house all have the same pipe size and NONE are small enough to actually work. I think nips use smaller pipe/hose. Not even our portable "stairs" style vacuum works.
>>14338298 Yes. Generally, you are okay in onahole size, meaning you can get to use slightly smaller sizes without too much worry. Quite a few onaho should fit you, venus included. I still wouldn't try anything around 4.5" though.
Soft as fuck, has an almost velvety feel. It's so soft that your dick will regain sensitivity you never knew was possible. The walls are pretty thick and stretches out as it cushions your dick. Also makes endurance runs pretty fun.
>>14338297 Still would be highly suspect. Mine came in a nice retail looking box fairly well packaged.
Jesse Jane is an fake. Stoya and Lisa Ann are real, purchased by me in person at overpriced sex stores.
If the pictures of the girls dont look "glossy", then stay away. If it looks like the art is printed directly on the box with ink, stay away.
As a sorta happy accident. Look at the Lisa Ann box's bottom right hand corner. You can see the light reflect off of the shiny box material. That is real official fleshlight. The Jesse Jane is dull and kinda faded looking in comparison.
>>14338354 >>14338366 I see. Thanks a lot for the pictures. Nobody should buy the eBay ones, because even in the chance that it's real, it might be old or heat-damaged.
Buying from online retail stores (some of them has coupon codes that decimate the price) or the official site will ensure that you're getting something that was just made, and thus has optimum softness.
>>14338333 >Pastebin says nothing about Fleshlights. Fleshlights are just American styled onaholes.
Rjob get on this shit man wtf
>Fleshlights are more on topic than dildos, anal toys, and full sized sex dolls (ala the Real Doll)
that might be but a lot of american onaholes have been deemed 'subpar'
>Fleshlights are decent, and better than low end onaholes.
relative to price point? fuck no.
>>Implying I'm not a vet of these threads >Come on bro, we're just trying to help our friends cum. The world is already a shitty place, why not help each other out. We're just trying to share our knowledge of toys to help your dick feel good.
exactly why we should discourage people from buying subpar holes
>/ona/ is a safe space for anyone who likes to cum.
not when shitty products are encouraged
>At the end of the day we're all pouring lube into inanimate objects and shooting our load into it.
then why get any less of an experience?
look, i know im going full autismo here, but this topic has been discussed over and over, ANYTHING but the best is considered a waste of money. Just go buy an onahole instead of a fleshlight god dammit.
How long do you guys usually last with your onaholes? I own a Daisyuki Hold and with it, it takes me 5 to 10 minutes before I'm about to climax. Also, I tend to go slow, and with all the air pushed out so it creates a vacuum as I stroke. Is this a normal approach to using onaholes? Relatively new to onaholes, as Daisyuki Hold is my first one.
Guys thanks for sharing... (original brazillian guy who asked for help) Even though, sad that buying stuff from outside is a big no for me, it takes ages, customs are a bitch and liked to overcharge, lots of stuff even go missing, plus the exchange rate is deadly right now (each dollar costs + 4 brazillian bucks)
I'll take a look at that cheap brands in the nearby store, report back if they're absolute crap or not, and if all else fails I'll buy a imported one from the free market.
>>14338497 FL material starts to feel not as good after about that long. Best feeling is during the first year imo. But, FLs feel better than ever now compared to what was manufactured in 2011, which was only OK imo. (FLG and Ice are both the absolute softest compared to the pink pigment)
>>14338541 You can last a couple of hours if you have patience and keep yourself in the pleasure range below the point-of-no-return. I use bursts of strokes, and then stay still, enjoying the sunshine, stroking only when necessary to maintain being in that range. Works best in the evening when you're tired and haven't fapped in 2 days, it's almost as good as a high.
its an expertise really, it feels like you can cum any second, but you just keep edging, over and over.
also might have something to do with me being cut, but i just love to blow out all the air out of the onahole and then just teasing the head of my penis. feels fucking amazing. so much infact that typing this up gives me a hardon.
the faq specifically mentions tomax products can be flipped inside out for cleaning but does not recommend it, how badly does flipping damage the life of the onahole? i'm pretty autistic about cleaning so i only have a tenga flip hole because it's easy to clean every nook and cranny
>>14338734 Flipping stretches, some areas more than others. Too much stretch and it stays permanently stretched. Time spent in stretch and stress both affect the lifespan. Yes, your dick, too, can kill them.
>>14338779 well if it kills the hole say, 4 months sooner out of 2 years then i have no problem with that. but if flipping is going ruin the hole in 3 to 6 months then i'll just live in my mediocre but clean tenga purgatory
>>14338734 flipping is always discouraged because its not the natural position of any hole, but the tomax stuff is really, really sturdy. >>14338818 wouldnt know if it would last 2 years though, maybe an expert knows.
>>14338818 Well, like I said, it's time and force dependent. The material matters, too, so any molding imperfections will become apparent. It's not that hard to clean, flipping isn't even necessary. The guide should be updated soon.
>>14337572 As a fellow bananabro, it's hard to complain about Tengas. They sell on the local online market on various flavors so you bypass our glacier-paced import system, and most are priced under a hundred reals so you can have some fun even in our bad economy. They seem to produce bigger sizes for bigger penises so our 7+ inch on average megadongs can safely snuggle in there.
Other people say they're bad, they probably have a full harem of onaholes and already found something they find better than a Tenga. That's fine, but if you're short on cash, nothing wrong with going with the red and white stripes for a while until you can scrape some more dilmas.
Up to you to order both and find what's best for you in the end, I guess. Personally I think they're fine.
>>14339124 >>14339124 Oh, and about them being "disposable", the only disposable thing about a Tenga is the lube that comes prepackaged inside of it for the first use. If you can supply your own, you can keep going on and on and on with the things just like you would with an onahole.
>>14339124 >fellow bananabro thanks for the support bro did you check this store? http://www.sexshopatacadao.com.br/masturbadores/ It very near to me, I'm thinking of going by tomorrow, prices are very cheap.... 15 R$ for tengas, but the magical kiss cup which is more interesting...
>>14338794 What about those usb onahole? Chu-b for any CM3D2 player..... Japs are on a whole other level...
>>14339084 Woof, harsh words for Fleshlight. Have you used one, Rjob?
"Overpriced" is harsh, especially because it varies wildly. I wouldnt pay more than $70 for one. But there are plenty you can get for $50-65 on amazon with free prime shipping.
Part of the "overpriced"-ness comes with the added shipping.
They are bland, but inoffensive, it a neutral to positive experience. Also they are WAY more explainable to the general public than onaholes. I'm comfortable telling my girlfriend about a Fleshlight, but other than my Witch's Temptation and R-20 (both have very sterile outward looking appearances), I dont think I'd let anyone see my other onaholes. My GF actively asks to use my FL during foreplay...I doubt she'd feel the same way about a Lolinco.
All in all I'd characterize Fleshlights like this: "There are better onaholes and products that you can and should buy. You can find better, but it is not the worst option. If you NEED something for short notice there is some convenience in the fact that they can be purchased in sex shop. But be prepared to overspend."
But thats just my opinion. I'd just much rather an /ona/ bro who JUST HAS to fap today spend $90-100 on a fleshlight in a sex shop rather than drop $50 on some cheap POS "pocket pussy"
Heck...you can sell a used fleshlight pretty easily and re-coup that money.
>>14339305 Fair enough. I like the cut of your jib. I think that pastebin has great information and is pretty unbiased (except for toucan lube...but then again it is a great product that deserves the shill).
I was just afraid of questionable info going in. Feel free to use that quote, or tweak it however you feel comfortable.
I offered the 7/11 Amazon box shipping info and the MeikiPlush+Busty Aichan info in the past and am happy its in the pastebin.
>>14339470 I agree, now I've remembered why I wanted something else: inside is all smooth, all lubricant is easily pushed to outside which makes it uncomfortable and messy, lots of noise, very peculiar smell and not soft at all.... at least its resilient to last this long...
Unable to afford it, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the onahole's promo code. Never minding the strange prefix, he immediately buys it, and is overjoyed to find out that it is the perfect size for his dick.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's jerk-off with the onahole, he looks at the onahole with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the onahole he bought is not the same onahole he fell in love with. In fact, it doesn't exist in this universe at all. It is the onahole's alternate universe counterpart, which has made to fit perfectly on the dick of MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of how comfortable it is.
Hijinks ensue as the boy and the onahole's manufacturer strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to create the perfect fapping experience for their other selves. While the two chase their pleasures and profits respectively, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of MASTURBATION.
>>14335095 >>14335144 Sticking your dick in a vacuum feels great. Its about 3-5 times as intense as using a Hitachi magic wand on your dick. If I was guaranteed to get vacuum hole, I'd get the mystery box.
>>14342543 To explain, exactly what I mean, when the vacuum tube is the right size, your dick acts like a reed in a woodwind instrument, oscillating up and down rapidly as air flows past it. This leads to your entire dick not just vibrating at high frequency, but there's also a strong stimulation on the frenelum and the top of the head as it slaps the top and the bottom of the tube. There's actually almost no sliding, so little or no lube is needed. It is very intense, much moreso that even a strong vibrator like a Magic Wand with or without an attachment.
If you think a powerful vibrator like a Hitachi Magic Wand is intriguing, vacuum is on another level. It's a piece of plastic for $70, which is a rip off at full retail though.
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