Would you rather live in Portugal or south Italy?

Portugal because at least there is (a little) developed region.

>>79554556
can you not see rome on that map? rome is south italy.

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>>79554609

>>79554690
>economist.com
into the trash it goes

>>79554411
Portugal tbqh

>>79554690
how does that work? rome is equally as south or more than the 2 regions to the east of it

I'd rather live in the northern Italy among people and not filthy shitskins to be completely honest with you my lovely Dutchman

>>79554760
>how does that work
it doesn't. meme map for memers.

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>>79554690
Reminder that this is the only true map

>>79554609
That's because government offices, Lazio is rural and undeveloped and Rome is a third world hellhole filled with hordes of tourist

>>79554556
the diference between blue and red regions is the amount of jew buildings built lisbon drains all the most of our budget yet barely manages to stay ahead of the rest of the country in anything. just because we dont have a museum of african heritage in our city doesnt mean we're less developed

>>79554903
we trmon

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>>79554718
The border of South Italy and other part of Italy is clear, South Italy = former Two Sicilies Kingdom. It's so simple.

>>79555102
>The Union of Emilian Socialist Soviets included in Northern Italy
Disgusting

bullshit map

>>79554411

Portugal. Less naggers and mafia.

>>79554903
>Bologna
>Northern italy
Commie shithole, better hand it over to the south

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>>79555102
the line was clearly decimated here.

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>>79555102
this is the north

>>79555102
>>79555404
>be subhuman northerner
>go live in a foreign shithole
>spend your days complaining about southerners on 4chan
what did they mean by this?

>>79555493
They meant that you have to fuck off to Africa already. Can't you read or smth

>>79555493
meant for>>79555272

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>>79555544
>mfw north italians are so beta they can't even get women in Russia and spend their days at home shitposting

Portugal is top comfy

>>79555629
Ti ricordo che è sabato sera e tu sei qui come tutti noi

>>79555629
>low IQ post
Ok, I feel like you don't seem to understand, but italians (real italians and unreal too, like yourself) can freely move within EU for work or travel. Why would they go to Russia, bellend? Aren't terronians aware they're not animals anymore and the good guys gave them enough rights to move?

Come to Northern Portugal white men

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>take down the government that was developing country while lowering the debt
>raise our debt to gigantic ass levels
>the country stays underdeveloped

>>79554411
Basilicata and Molise are top comfy, don't know about Portugal

>>79554411
Portugal

Neither

>>79554411
South Italy. Napoli one love.

>>79556388
Remove that proxy, Ciro

>>79556541
Иди кaк ты нaхyй, мигeль.
Kapish?

>>79554690
>Rome
>Northern
The level of WE WUZ

>>79554411
This maps are a bad representation of Portugal.
The wealthiest regions are close to the coast.
Our NUTS maps are designed in a way from north to south and not from east to west so all the welthiest regions are mixe up with the less wealthy and the average goes down,as you can see lisbon is the smallest and where there is less areas outside the coast

Irish
>>79556194

>>79556801
the southern interior is richer than the northern coast though(Braga/Guimarães/Viana area)

Portugal seems comfy desu

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>>79554411
I don´t know, where is Netherlands?lel

>>79554411
What's going on in Wales?

>>79558258
>butthurt
>>79557987
Source?
>>79556801
That's how we got more funds from Brussels. Nevertheless, most interior is economically a "desert".

>>79559583
>t.immigrant shitskin

>>79558258
What is this lol

>>79554411
>NRD

>>79561577
ONE of thousand QoL that exist in the world index that I've already explained 2 times mostly formed with qualitative factors. Some anon here and other board instead of discussing problems and slides to this index everytime.

>Quality of Life Index (higher is better) is an estimation of overall quality of life by using an empirical formula which takes into account purchasing power index (higher is better), pollution index (lower is better), house price to income ratio (lower is better), cost of living index (lower is better), safety index (higher is better), health care index (higher is better), traffic commute time index (lower is better) and climate index (higher is better).

index.main = Math.max(0, 100 + purchasingPowerInclRentIndex / 2.5 - (housePriceToIncomeRatio * 1.0) - costOfLivingIndex / 5 + safetyIndex / 2.0 + healthIndex / 2.5 - trafficTimeIndex / 2.0 - pollutionIndex * 2.0 / 3.0 + climateIndex / 3.0);

>>79555493
Mi dispiace contradirti ma noi del nord siamo patristicamente italiani-austriaci-franciosi-schiavi mentre gli italiani del sud(non ho nulla contro di loro) sono piu simili ai tunisini e agli arabi geneticamente parlando.

Sei vai a vedere gli studi che sono stati fatti sul dna degli italiani ti potrai rendere conto di ció.

Ma ti basta guardare al succeso del nord italia rispetto al sud in effetti, io sono alto 1,98 con occhi celesti e capelli maroni dovuti al mio sangue italiano, non dimenticarti inoltre che altri studi hanno evidenziato un qi maggiore degli abitanti del nord rispetto al sud.

Tutto ció ci porta ad essere piú central europei rispetto a voi abitanti del sud che invece siete meditteranei europei chiudo anche evidenziandoti le differenze del nostro cranio piú simile ai nord-europei che a voi.

>>79554411
I want to see a map like this of the US.

>>79554411
>Croatia
>Less developed

LUL. Fuck these fucking maps srsly

>>79554411
The Portuguese are good and humorous people, but I'm afraid I have to pick Sicily because my grandma was from Palermo.

>>79567237
MUH

>>79567157
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_policy_of_the_European_Union

If you want to have a look how this works- criteria, etc.

>>79558258
>safety index
>51.24, next country in the 50s is the UK and Sweden
fugggg :DDD

>still 7th

It's not all about money. We have great things in our cunt: safety, friendly people. good weather. That's priceless. I'm looking at you autistic, Finloids

>>79567248
Nah just being pragmatic. I can live with extended family instead of being homeless like 95%+ of the rest of the thread

>>79567217
Why do you think Croatia stands out among EE countries as a developed region

>>79567270
wow nevermind, somehow I glanced entirely over Australia

I'll give them a pass though, because it's their wildlife and not willingly importing muslims and blacks.

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>>79567282
>It's not all about money
>People emmigrate, how state functions, how do we pay security forces like safety, demographic shift, etc.

If you are going this to >>.79555775, I will debunk with in instant, I litterally read the report part about Portugal.

Our inner districts are poor, underdeveloped tier and with part active population working in France and Switzerland to aggravate the situation. What's QoL when you can't enjoy it in your country?

>>79554411
Portugal, It looks comfy

>>79558258
What the fuck is with Norway's low safety index?

>>79567282
I honestly prefer Southern Finland's climate to your murderous heatwaves

>>79567416
I live in Bragança and it's probably cozier and safer than 2/3 of Europe, as far as small cities go. And yet, you Lisbon fags think we're absolute rednecks. You don't need a lot of money to have a high quality of life. Enjoy your cosmopolitan life lmao, life is good here.

>>79567463
I would also be interested to hear about this.

>>79558258
>>79567463
I guess the index was made by some nigger from jungle and "quality of life" means how nice place to emigrate as a shitskin. Just look at "climate index" they just put Southern nations in higher rank which nearer to their homeland.

>>79567529
> you Lisbon fags
I'm Coimbra - I just spend time debunking shiet that one autistic post about rankings that our MSM push over and people share in Kikebook without in order to discuss it properly or understanding it.

>Lisbon fags
That's probably filled by Africans by now.
kek
>You don't need a lot of money to have a high quality of life.
A country of 20% pop working abroad? With our minimum wage?

>>79567463
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/indices_explained.jsp

This section is based on surveys from visitors of this website. Questions for this surveys are similar to many similar scientific and government surveys.
Each entry in the survey is saved as the number in the range [-2, +2], with -2 having meaning of strongly negative and +2 meaning of strongly positive.
We filter surveys to eliminate potential spam, like people entering the large amount of data which are differentiating from the median value.
To present survey result, we use the scale [0, 100] for values since it is easier to read for users.
To generate a current index (which is always updated) we use data up to 36 months old. We include only cities for which there are at least a certain number of contributors.Our semiannual index is remade twice per year by pushing current index into this historical view.
Crime Index is an estimation of overall level of crime in a given city or a country. We consider crime levels lower than 20 as very low, crime levels between 20 and 40 as being low, crime levels between 40 and 60 as being moderate, crime levels between 60 and 80 as being high and finally crime levels higher than 80 as being very high.
Safety index is, on the other way, quite opposite of crime index. If the city has a high safety index, it is considered very safe.
Is this much less accurate than governmental statistics? In some countries, governments have a detailed statistics based on a number of reported crimes per capita. Those surveys are particular good in comparing crime between two cities in that country, but are not so good in cross country comparison for the following reasons:
people in some countries are much more likely to report a crime than in other countries
data could be forged by governmental institutions
data are not available for most of the world

CATALONIA

I've been to Sicily

I chose Portugal

>>79567716
Hey that’s cool. My dad & grandparents are from Lousa

>>79567716
Well, I'm speaking on behalf of my city (and region). Money goes a long way here. You can literally buy a mansion with less than 300.000€. Despite our reputation, I can attest to the fact that people here experience a high quality of life if they can sort out their expenses, and if they have a relatively stable job. I can't think of a better place in Portugal to raise children, for example. Our country depicts us as rednecks, but that's far from reality. I'm still waiting to know how my quality of life doesn't compare to Lisbon's or Porto's. If you don't fully expect the life of a big city. The only reason we're in the ''undeveloped'' section of that graph you posted is because people from the villages either moved here or emigrated

>>79567716
>>79567416
You look so buthurted and selfhating. Arent you a non-white immigrant in Portugal or something? you act pathetic. Portugal may not be 10th most richest countries in the world, but is for sure one of the 30 -35. Has good health system, education and infrasctrutures. The problem of your country are the anti-fa like you.


t.britbong in pt

>>79568033
>You look so buthurted and selfhating.
Man, we are to understand the facts. And understand the how Portugal gets those red colours specially due to populational density, and how Portugal is divided by regions to get cohesion and structural funds and gdp per capita according to that. - >>79567416 and >>.79567927.

> you a non-white immigrant in Portugal or somethin / you act pathetic | The problem of your country are the anti-fa like you.
So much argument ad hominem. I'm here to opinate and say my view. I'm netiher immigrant neither leftist.
>t.britbong in pt
The only immigrant here is you - so show me respect. I am trying to discuss the situation and it's important since we vote and decide our political future and our lives. We don't vote in UK.

>>79568311
>4chan
>facts
kek

>>79568311
Are you denying that Portugal is one of the most privileged countries in the world in terms of life standards? it's a fact, you have no ideia how is the world ma man. But your problem is the gibs you gave to non-europeans in lisbon

>>79568433
Of course, it has - but you have to money like I said in
>>79567416 > What's QoL when you can't enjoy it in your country?

Literally a friend of mine said the same thing when Coimbra was fitfh city with high QoL but he said afterwards there were no jobs and he had a journalism degree (part of the problem of choosing that). He goes to Germany work as content creator to earn 800 euros. Is he enjoying the QoL in Coimbra. Unfortunately not.

Good for people with more than average money and retired folk like I saw you Britbongs and an Australian diabetic patient a week ago

South Italy beacuse of the food.

>>79568653
From the little bit that I know, Portuguese food is fucking amazing too, man. It's just not famous here in burgerland like Italian food is. You'd be winning either way as far as eating is concerned.

>>79568653
This

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The problem with Portugal is that no one lives on the interior

>>79569165
Why is that a problem?

Also nobody lives in the interior of Brazil either do they? Isn't most of your interior a big ass jungle? Pardon my ignorance if I'm wrong about that.

>>79569165
Fuck You. I do. And it's awesome, you can get in touch with nature while living the typical urban life. Nevermind, don't come here it sucks hahahah

>>79569165
Every country maybe except Madagascar is like that. Are you retarded?

I like Portugal

italy is a third world shithole filled with faggot poz men and coalburning race mixing women filled with politicians that are corrupt and working to replace the native population. Social services do not work or in some times dont even exist. There are no social safety nets so starting a family is literal suicide. There is 12% unemployment and 50% youth unemployment as well as african nigger refugees coming in by the thousands looking for jobs that arent even there for the native people. Antifa and communism is the main zeitgeist among the youth and maghrebian and sub Saharan gangs have drug wars and the police turns a blind eye. Italy is perhaps the worst country in Europe.