PAY YOUR DENBTS GERMANY

Pay them then kick them out of the EU.

Germany doesn't have to pay and they are not going to.
And before you say "they are going to cuck out and pay regardless", you must understand that the German elite doesn't give about humanitarianism, everything to them is about profit and since they aren't going to make profit out of this they aren't going to repay "just to be the good guys".

>>79533602
Everybody is legally right to demand anything. Whether he gets it or not is a whole 'nother legal question.

>(((lawyer)))

>Express
Stop posting this shit rag

What about Russia?

>>79533637
they care about a destructive pretense of humanitarianism for their own political ends, just like most elites do, nothing more.

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>>79533602
You have been paid already.

>>79537813
But we gain nothing, Stalin gave us those lands for our eastern territories so it was nothing more than exchange.
Pay reparation Hans or at least stop demanding obedience from us.

Germany = Japan
Poland = Korea

Don't pay Germany.
They continue to demand because they are poor.

>>79533602
>be poleshit
>cooperate with nazis and kill jews
>claim to be the victims and get gibs
nigger nation

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>mfw Poland and Germany will go ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLERS on each other over WWII/refugees for years to come

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>>79533602
Why can't Poland invade Germany and France?

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>>79538191
pay debt, nipon

>>79538230
>be korean
>cooperate with Japanese army and kill chinks
>claim to be the victims and get gibs
>subhuman country

>>79538191
This. This is why you neber supposed to apologize for war crimes or genocide. You will never stop paying debt

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GERMONEY PAY YOUR QUADRILLION DOLLAR TO POLAND OR ELSE I BASH YOU!!!

Will Poland ever stop demanding gibs?

>>79533602

This is nigger tier. Just like Spanish speaking countries demaning Spanish gold

>>79538693
Paid reparations to the birds?

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>>79533602
SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY

>>79538734
It's the other way around. The emus will have to pay.

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>>79538107
Polen please :(

You filthy german pigs gib reparations so we can build our empire

>>79533634
>Germany kicking Polad from UE
Something's wrong with your logic skills buddy

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Poles will never win because they are white.

If Poles were brown or black, Germans would pay.

Check your privilege.

>>79538874
poles arent white

>>79533602
>polish lawyers

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>>79538926
>tfw wh*Te subhuman

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This is an unrelated topic, but I read a ridiculously funny news article yesterday about a Russian gay who fled to Germany and applied as a refugee due to being oppressed in Russia or some shit.
So, Germans approved his refugee status and sent him to a refugee camp. Which is filled with muslims. A gay dude, living in the same camp with a whooole bunch of muslims. The dude started going to nearby gay club, his roommates found out about that and the rest of the article is just him crying about being beaten, demeaned, forced to perform fellatio on his muzzie roommates under fear of death and Germans not doing anything about that because he doesn't speak German and any Russian speaking person he encountered couldn't give less of a shit about a homo's troubles.
He wrote a letter to Russian embassy asking for help, but they ignored it, since he's a refugee now and his problems fall under German jurisdiction.

>>79539134
Comedy gold

I would like to see Germany paying full amount of the reparation. Because you are the leader of Europe and the embodiment of humanitarianism. I'm counting on you, Germany sama.

>>79534354
this

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>>79539134
>muslims despise faggots
>they hate them so much once they meet one they'll force him to suck their dicks
Same for american prisons.
I will truly never comprehend what goes through the mind of a subhuman

Germany was a mistake.

>>79539406
The dude that forced him to perform fellatio also tried to force the gay dude to marry him in order to get the full refugee status too.

>>79539134

My fucking sides.

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>>79538191

Korea is good. Can't wait when they launch atomic bomb on Japan.

>>79539523

He is gay, he just need to search a hot muslim, marry him, make a youtube video and voila

>>79533602
>lawyers say
Top kek.

>>79539134
He could choose to stop being gay

>>79539651

Once you take up in the ass, you can't come back to heterossexuality

>>79533602
>t. underage fag who doesn't know shit about German/European history
KYS

>>79538279
They are, as criminals, cleaners and manual labourers.

Suck a dick pooland

Currently there are 1.5 million Poles illegally occupying and have confiscated properties and belongings of native Palestinians putting them into endless suffering for decades with many losing their lives in this ordeal, not to mention the inhumane conditions they had to live in for the Poles to illegally evict them.

We are going to sue Poland for reparations for the damages their citizens have inflicted upon our glorious nation and its people and we demand exactly the same amount they are asking from Germany.


T. Mahmoud Abbas

>>79538107
So since Germany gave you and Russia took from you, it's Germany that owes you?
>Polish logic

>>79535004
russia has been paid back during the cold war

>>79539889

PAY ME MONIZ HANS UND NIE PIERDOL TYLE

>>79539841
>their citizens
You have to renounce your polish citizenship in order to obtain the citizenship of Israel

>>79540018
They were still citizens of Poland at the time of the war, meaning they were polish invaders and later relinquished their citizenship after the war ended and Israel was established

>>79539976
I think he implies that Poles should ask reparations from us, which is a meaningless task.

>>79540036
nod really

>>79540053
Yes really :DDD
You have two options:
A) Pay reparations
B) Take them back

>>79540036
Once you join a foreign army, you lose the right for double citizenship.

poland stronk

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I think poles should pay the expenses from removing the plague on his country.
Not less than a euro for every jew removed.

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>>79540036
>thanks to Jews the sentence "Polish invaders" exists

>>79540143
There wasn't a foreign army and there wasn't a nation to have a second citizenship from to begin with. They were Polish citizens conspiring against the welfare and livelihood of innocent Palestinian chuhhhldreeen

>>79540208
What do you say Chaim? Become a witness and 50/50 profits?

>>79538107
But the eastern territories were shitholes
It's a net gain for pooland

>>79540216
IDF is a recognized army.

>>79540205
rude

Fuck the money.

Germany has to conquer Lwów back for Poland.

t. a Polandboo which speaks Polish already

>>79540256
Tell me that you are not better before the jewish removal.
They where responsible for half of the bad things that happened in your cunt.

>>79540291
Are you Saszka?

>>79540253
Are you an idiot?
IDF: ISRAEL DEFENSE FORCES

Pre 1948: 1. There wasn't a state called Israel to defend 2. They were armed gangs at the time

>>79540302
I don't hurt Poland in any way

>>79540312
Tak. Czy masz jakies pytanie?

>>79540375
A nie, nic. Miłego dnia.

>>79540249
No
They have qts
>>79540330
>same as you only that you still stuck at the gangs step

>>79540123
>Yes really :DDD
They weren't acting on the behalf of Government of Poland neither of Government of Polish People's Republic therefore expecting reparations for the actions of private individuals acting on their own will is silly

>>79540395
Dobra

co znaczy "nie potrafiłam spać"?

mówi o tym że nie mogła spać?

>>79540414
tak
Miała problem z zasnięciem

>>79540330
I don't think we are in the same page.
What i am saying, is that there is no more poles in Israel (nowadays) because they did join the IDF (conscripts).
Os course Israel did not exist when the great immigration started.

>>79540414
>nie potrafiłam spać
zdanie jak z google translatora chyba że w szerszym kontekście "nie potrafiła spać w konkretnych warunkach" ie. hałas, namiot, pod gwiazdami etc.

>>79540371
Time to have the talk with you dad and grandfather.
Ask them about the jews.

>>79540444
to z piosenki Red Lips - To co było

cała piosenka to jest piękny obrazek nowego dialekta mieszaniego

>>79540456
They are dead.

>>79540463
czego ty słuchasz

>>79540511
ale brzmi pięknie

z rosyjkiego rekomenduję

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r0Cg7qzRfc

>>79540435
There are no SS nazis in Germany today either.

>>79540399
>jew refuses money
what the fuck is going on m8? Are you okay?

>>79533602
This shit needs to stop.
There will be no reparations, and they know it. only thing it does is to create animosity between German and Polish people

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>>79540573
Come on with the money meme, I can also call you a goat fucker but I won't because I'm a a nice and polite man who only takes your lands
pls be nice and polite too and make this place a better world

>>79534354
This
and
>>79539889
this

>>79540662
Germany shouldn't became united and you know it too. Eastern Germany is not even an ethnical german territories.

>>79540489
See, this is why you don't know about the jews.
Poland was probably the worst case of jews in the human history.
>1414, the first jew arrive in warsaw
>1765 they number 2500
>1795 they where 6700
>1804? 11390 (15% of the population of warsaw)
>1882, 130000 jews (1/3 of warsaw)
>1917 where just 343000 (41% of warsaw)
>when germany invaded, they number 395000

>>79540573
Jews were never Poles. They lived in ghettos, spoke Yiddish and they never mixed with Poles. It was a completely different world no Pole tried to enter and no Jew wanted anyone outside their ghetto to meet their culture.

>>79540720
I know about this.
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say here.

>>79533602
(((Lawyers)))

>>79540668
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. I was just shitposting out of boredom to ridicule this nonsense. I like you guys <3

>>79540721
Doesn't change the fact that you need to pay. PAY US DENBTS

>all the """Prussia""" meme

do you wanna be prussians? Speak the Old Prussian language or fuck off.

>>79533602
but i thought polish death camps killed most people in ww2?

>>79533602
poland is allowed in the eu.
dont overstay your welcome here.

>>79540747
Jews caused a lot of famines in poland because they loan money to farmers and take the money loaned back in crops (with insane interest). They owned the most of distillers and turn entire crops into vodka. This almost destroy your country several times.

>>79540721
Poles only care about the murdered Jews as long as they can use the number for their own purposes/propaganda.

>>79540721
Yep, I wrote this in /polska/. I found a jewish girl in web, trying to communicate, but she didn't answer.

But the main point. She is huge, really huge germanboo. Her germanophilia is even more stronger than mine to Poland.

After all the shit and being jewish, she is still Germanboo.

Ja jebię

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>>79540721

>>79540250
Reclaimed territories after war were even bigger shitholes. Russians considered these as German territories, so they went completely trigger happy.
And all the modern industry equipment that was in the Eastern Germany was taken back to Russia, where they were left to rust because they had no idea how to use these.

>>79540810
And Germany cares so much about the jews that you let in over a million Syrians.

Really makes you think.

>>79540849
Good girl, got her number?

>>79540873
no, she did not answer

>>79540860
Same goes for you, Björn, and you haven't even lost two world wars

>>79539889
You did't give us anything, Ruskie took those lands from you by force and gave them to us
You know, It's not my fault you loose the war Hans

>>79540718
>Eastern Germany is not even an ethnical german territories.
>people really believe this
But fine, Russia just lost 80% of its territory

>>79540774
>Doesn't change the fact that you need to pay. PAY US DENBTS

Poland is extremely poor, we don't have money to pay to anyone. It's others who have to pay to us.

>>79540799
It's not that the EU is only beneficial to us. We had to close a great deal of our industry, following the decisions of the European Commission.

>>79540810
Yeah, it's true. But Jews don't care about us either, we were two different nations that used to live in the same piece of land, but never got along with each other.

We didn't want Jews to be holocausted, but we're glad, that they don't live in Poland anymore, that's all.

Britzcrieg when?

>>79540849
what's wrong with that?
Apart from a little misunderstanding 70 years ago, Germans and Jews have a pretty good common relations

>>79540896
Tell her you move with her to Königsberg to make the East fertile again

>>79540908
But you signed a treaty that Poland will get no reparations and Germany in return accepts the land loss

I also wrote to her that Polish Empire always was better than German.

>>79540917
It's true. The only one reason why your manya-Prussia even existed is the fact than Romanow's dinasty was dinasty of occupants to be honest.

I like russian culture, especially 19th century's but it's the fact and history showed it.

The only one good thing from them - war with Osmans.

>>79540925
Bibi himself said it was the fault of arabs the holocaust happened.
Germans din du nuffin

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>>79540774
>I was just shitposting out of boredom to ridicule this nonsense. I like you guys <3
>I like you guys <3

I-is IDF in your room Pali bro?

>>79540955
Korolewiec (Russian), Królewiec (Polish)

sometimes i think about moving to europe then i see threads like this

>>79540997
Now I understand where the problem is between you two

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>>79540860
>Kill all of their Jewish scientists and doctors
>let in millions of uneducated muslim Syrians
Each country and it's own decisions

>>79533634
>pay denbts
>Poland is now the richest country in the EU
>kick them out

>>79540860
Friendly reminder that Germany is still occupied

>>79540964
I know that technically, we are not to blame, but I still can't help but to feel a little bad about it

>>79541017
Because this city should never become German again.

If you wanna be nationalist you may propagand your language to americans, because many of them are ethnical germans.

>>79533602
I'll hide this thread. It's a click bait and troll article. Also the OP text contains no real information. It just says 'pay dembts', No arguments, not even the link to the article. OP put no effort into this.

I'm sorry if it hurts, but it's my opinion. Even if Russia will collapse.

Because all the Prussia memes are dangerous. You may become PRUSSIANS, if you would speak PRUSSIAN. This is fine for me.

>>79539841
You have to be a country first

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>>79540923
>Poland is extremely poor,
What?
Who follow this meme? There is no poles starving. Just because you can't afford a brand new BMW and can't travel to some Spanish island once a year, doest mean you are poor.
Just mean you are not rich...

You have a pretty good HDI, just have some children and you will be fine.

>>79541159
Poland just has no nature resourses, but they are richer than us.

I really can't understand why do Poles leave Poland.

Serves those fucking germans right
They had the nerve to try bully poland into accepting shitskins after all the shit they pulled?
Bomber Harris do it again and again and again and again and again and again!

>>79540923
>We didn't want Jews to be holocausted, but we're glad, that they don't live in Poland anymore, that's all.
Very honest and somehow understandable considering that you never managed to become one nation.
The situation was different here in Germany, Jews were an essential part of the German middleclass and, compared to other European countries, well integrated. Quite stupid to murder one of our best.

Sometimes I wonder if Auschwitz will be an example in the future to solve the Muslim question in Europe, not even memeing at this point.

>>79541101
The city doesn't even exist anymore. A completely new was built onto Königsberg. Same goes for most of the smaller towns and villages.

>>79541129
Do you mean the Prussian language or the Low German Prussian dialect?

>>79541185
Western culture.
Same thing here. Don't know why faggots hate Brazil. This land always provide them with what they needed, and still, they want to move to USA to live in a small concrete square and eat shit all day long.

There is a idea in our culture, a strange one, basically, if you can't consume unnecessary goods, then you are not happy.

>>79541159
>There is no poles starving.

Of course there are.

> can't travel to some Spanish island once a year, doest mean you are poor.

Actually holidays on a Spanish island are cheaper than at the Polish seaside.

>Just mean you are not rich...

Well, for obvious reasons, Poles don't compare themselves to Brazilians, but to Germans. And comparing to Germans, we're poor.

>>79541185
>I really can't understand why do Poles leave Poland.

For the same reason why Russian villagers leave their villages and move to Moscow. Just our "Moscow" is London.

>>79540908
How is this relevant? You got compensated by getting land from Germany. How that compensation went about is irrelevant.

>>79541205
nigger

>>79538107
>it was nothing
Muddy polish third world clay in exchange for highly industrialised German clay is nothing now.

>>79541205
nigger

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>>79541293
>highly industrialised German clay

This highly industrialized clay was all in ruins after ww2, and all precious goods were stolen by Russian troops.

>>79541265
The compensation was not worth nearly enough to be satisfactory. Which is relevant.

>>79541185
Poland is a shitty country to live, it's not only poor, but it's also cold and filled with grumpy and uncultured people who can't cook for shit.

The real question is why people leave Croatia, which is heaven on Earth, comparing to Poland.

>>79541246
Prussian language.

>>79541264
I was born in Moscow and as for me this city is hard to live. Yes, it becomes really cool, but there are so many non-russians here now.

>>79541264
>Of course there are.
There are less people in misery in Poland, than in USA.

>>79541390
Because it's right next to Serbia.

>>79541397
That's because USA is bigger.

>>79541395
>Yes, it becomes really cool, but there are so many non-russians here now.

But still, thousands of Russian villagers from all over Russia move to Moscow. Why do they do it, why don't they want to live in their cozy villages, surrounded by beautiful nature?

>>79541397
lol, what is "misery"?

>>79541426
Poland is next to Russia, which is a bigger and worse version of Serbia. At least Serbs have nice cuisine and music.

>>79537813
t. russian agent

>>79541327
That's true, just like the rest of the Reich. But Poles did a great job to rebuilt Danzig and many other cities.
While cities were not reconstructed how they were before the war in Germany (bulldozers have completed the RAF's job after WW2), Poles have reconstructed Danzig, Kraukau, Posesn etc very lovely. Today this is seen as an example for Germany. The old uptown of Frankfurt is beeing reconstructed with the help of skilled Polish architects.

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>dude getting like 1/3 of German clay after WW2 isn't enough
The eternal Pole strikes again, fucking greedy bastards

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>>79541265
We would be compensated if Poland would look like pic rel

also this >>79541327

>>79541390
Dude, try to visit Moscow in winter.

I got depression (not in clinical sense, but still powerfull) after moving back to winter Moscow, I was in Kubań and there are no show in Kubań in winter.
But after 2 hour flight I moved to winter

>>79541474
>lol, what is "misery"?
People who can't afford food and depend on welfare.
THIS IS MISERY. Nothing else.

Have some pride for fucking sake. Poland is doing fine.

>>79541474
They are more rare than non-russians. Seriously.

>>79541519
I know Kubań from War Thunder, nice place

>>79541498
Looks breddy good, but you have to understand that this Poland would be bilingual.

But I would be really glad to live in this country

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>>79541488
>Kraukau

Actually it was one of few cities that weren't destroyed. Also Thorn.

>>79541498
>We would be compensated if Poland would look like pic rel

Well, I wouldn't want these Russian-infested parts of Belarus and Ukraine now. I think Poland should look like pic related, but the western border should be at the Oder, just like it's now.

>>79541519
>Dude, try to visit Moscow in winter.

It's the same in Poland.

>>79541548
So what? These non-Russians also come from beautiful villages surrounded by magnificent Caucasus mountains. Why do they do that? Why don't they want to stay in their villages?

>>79541522
>People who can't afford food and depend on welfare.

And you think that there are more people like that in the USA? top kek

Also, there are about 10 million Poles in the USA.

>>79541490
>1/3 of German clay
>which has been bombed to shit
>is empty
>anything of value has been stolen by Soviet Horde which has also stolen native polish lands to the east
>for which Poland had little to no spare population to settle

It's like giving a man whose legs you cut off ice-skates.

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>>79541205
kek, u still mad?

>>79541610
woah it's almost as if there was a war or something

>>79541389
elaborate

>>79541678
Sure, but that's why this clay can't be considered a real compensation. You owe us much, much more.

And Trump will make you pay.

>>79541699
>>79541610

>>79541678
>>79541717

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>>79541605
>>79541519
>>79541390
Get some Vitamin D pills, you goofs.

>>79541643
\o

>>79541605
>And you think that there are more people like that in the USA? top kek
Yes, they are. Both in number, and percentage of the population.

At this point. The country in europe that have a baby boom (and maintain it), will rule europe in 30 years.

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>>79541717
Get fucked faggot, Danzig and Stettin will be German again

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>>79541498
You do realize that everything on that map that can be given by Germany to fulfil it has been given and everything else is somebody else's. Whcih leads us back to the starting point:
>>79539889

>>79541522
> Poland is doing fine.

How do you know, if you've never been there? HDI and GDP won't tell you the truth.

I live in a 33 sqm apartment in a commieblock in Warsaw and my parents had to save money for 20 years to buy it for me (about 50k euros), in Berlin I could buy 40-50 sqm for this money. We have probably the highest prices:wages ratio in the world, things are more expensive than in Germany here, while our wages are 3 times lower.

>>79541717
>this clay can't be considered a real compensation
then give it back

>>79541717
Trump is German, he loves Germany bigly
It's true, everyone says so.
Yuuuge

>>79541790
Actually, more and more Poles settle down in east Germany and no Germans move to Gdańsk and Szczecin.

>>79541837
No, it's fine that we have them, but it's still not enough. You owe us more.

>>79541780
>The country in europe that have a baby boom (and maintain it), will rule europe in 30 years.

So definitely not Poland.

>>79541790
You don't have the population for it.
The average age of a german, is 50yo. You can't claim land BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TO COLONIZE IT.

>>79541819
I've heard that Warsaw is much more expansive than Berlin.
Also Berlin is an exception among European capitals, it's not only by far the cheapest but also the poorest. While other capitals are the power houses of their countries Berlin is just a dying junky on gibs

When will Italy pay reparations for betraying us?

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>>79541819
> HDI and GDP won't tell you the truth.
And a Vitamin D deficient poster will.

I used to live in pic related when I was student. There were roaches running around the barely functioning elevators. Get some Vitamin D or a UV lamp.

>>79541873
>Poland is a shithole so Poles leave
rlly makes you think
>>79541885
The birth rate in "east" Germany is actually higher than in the T*rk infested western cities

>>79541899

>I've heard that Warsaw is much more expansive than Berlin.

true

>also the poorest.

But still wages in Berlin are 2-3 times higher than in Warsaw.

I don't understand how come Warsaw has such high prices, despite having such small wages. Must be tricks of ((economists)) who really hate Poland.

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>>79541912
next time without mario. seriously.

>>79541819
>I live in a 33 sqm apartment
Not many people in europe (or the world) can say they own something besides a fucking car.
>>79541873
>So definitely not Poland.
Why? The germans/soviets castrated all the males from your country?
Let me teach you how to solve the problem.
You pick your dick, put inside a vagina, and cum on it. Is not difficult. People have being doing this for millions of years. And it's actually fun.

When will Portugal pay denbts for sending niggers in?

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>>79541934
Hight, you mean above the replacement rate?

>>79542010
pay reparations to paraguay

>>79541947
>Why? The germans/soviets castrated all the males from your country?

Polish men are ugly and most of them are drunkards, but Polish women have a lot of children indeed, just in England and with niggers.

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/180471,Polish-baby-boom-continues-in-UK

>>79541947
>Not many people in europe (or the world) can say they own something besides a fucking car.

Because they don't need it, as rent is extremely cheap. You can easily rent a decent flat in Berlin for 400-500 eur/month, while you'll make 2000 eur/month. Why would you need to save money for buying a flat? It's better to spend it on stuff you like.

Meanwhile, rent in Warsaw is about 500 eur, while most of people make something like 700-800 eur. So everyone wants to have to own a flat, not to pay extremely high rent.

>>79541932
Poland doesn't have sun indeed, that's also a problem and a reason why Poles leave this shithole.

>>79541610
>>which has been bombed to shit
It was the West of Germany which bore the brunt of the allied bombing campaign simply due to reasons of range. The East was pretty unharmed.

>is empty
So just as you liked it.

>anything of value has been stolen by Soviet Horde which has also stolen native polish lands to the east
That's a myth which has long been debunked by East German economics insiders after the fall of the wall. The starting conditions of the East were actually better than the West. The economic quagmire was due to the communist system, which allowed the West to overtake the East.

>for which Poland had little to no spare population to settle
If you want to live in piles of humans you don't need to take land anyway. Might just as well give it back.

we're going to building the wall, and germany is going to pay for it

>>79542017
Dresden has the highest birth rate of all cities in Germany, without shitskins.
also, correlation≠causation

>>79542083
as long as we decide where the wall will be build

I like Polish beer and Polish cuisine and Polish girls

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>>79541885
>You don't have the population for it.
The German Empire had 66m people right before WWI. Germany now has 82 people.
Typical Brazilian maths, always struggling with numbers. Let's count to seven^together, shall we?

>>79533602
I don't think they pay and I guess our gov knows it too. It's just something to calm Germans tits while whole attack on Poland in UE taking place.

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>>79542152
>dat webm
fucking saved for further shitposting

>>79542046
We already set this out.
We let them use our rivers (since they are land locked) for free and for ever.
Also, reparations are for countries who lost the war. not for the one who won.
Those are the rules. Losers pay to the winners.

>>79542063
>The East was pretty unharmed.

Except for the boot of the Soviet soldier that passed through there.

>just like you liked it

Empty land is worthless

>That's a myth
Link?

>Might just as well give it back.
No, just give Poland what they are owed

>>79533637
where's the profit in giving out handouts to 700k muslims every month?

>>79542152
How many of them lived in rural land?
What was their average age?
How many children they produce per woman?

POP IS NOT EVERYTHING. SUSTAIN THAT POP IS THE KEY.

>>79541498
>Germany loses clay to loland
>USSR takes clay from loland
>Poland asks for compensation from Germany instead of Russia
woah, the power of polish intellectuals!

>>79539134
Could you share link to article?

>>79542063
>East German economics

Don't compare DDR to "East Germany" that was given to Poland. DDR was relatively intact, because when Russian troops entered it, the Reich had already collapsed, German armies surrendered and cities weren't destroyed, while German cities like Danzig, Breslau or Stettin, were sieged, when Germany was still staunchly defending, so they were almost razed to the ground.

>>79542262
>Empty land is worthless
define "empty"
It could be used as farmland or as space for new towns and villages.
Seriously, you're fucking retarded.

>>79542344
gypsies go home

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What about the Austrians? Why aren't they paying?

>>79542406
Because Austria was an innocent victim of Prussian imperialism as well as Poland.

>>79542390
Where I lay my head is home.

>>79542442
lay it under a train

>>79542369
Empty as in land you don't have any people to man it with.

>>79542406
Because they generally keep quiet and don't try to destroy Europe with stupid ideologies anymore.

>>79542427
Austrians declared war on Prussia, I bet Poles did something evil, too
>Prussian imperialism
It's one of the longest lasting memes in world history, spread by French and British

>>79542456
>Multikulti is bad
I feel the impetus to liberate your Nazi country, m8

>>79542262
>Except for the boot of the Soviet soldier that passed through there.
They took women and gold chains. Factories and production facilities largely remained in place. It was the East German communist leadership which dismantled the East German economy and changed it to a hevy industry supplier of the Soviet Union. In doing so they destroyed thousands and thousands of successful Mittelstand businesses, who often were world leaders in their respective markets.
Educate yourself.

>Empty land is worthless
Which is why you kept the Germans in the Sudetenland. Oh wait...
Seriously, how does it feel to be this dumb?

>Link?
http://www.tabularasamagazin.de/guenter-schabowski-zwieback-im-politbuero-die-profitfreie-planwirtschaft/

>No, just give Poland what they are owed
We already did.

>>79542605
>Günter Schabowski

top kek

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from:
>>79541885
>You don't have the population for it.

to:
>>79542308
>POP IS NOT EVERYTHING.

>>79542483
>Austrians declared war on Prussia

I am talking about 1938, not 1700s or 1866.

>>79542344
More like this:
>Poland joins EU to piss off Russia
>EU ask poland to take refugees
>Poland say no
>EU threat them with sanctions
>Poland uses the power of butthurt
>EU can't impose sanctions because Poland is suing Germany
>Germany will not pay, but can't force refugees in Poland and can't impose sanctions to force them to do so.

I honestly think it's a good move.

>>79542406
Austria did not exist during the time.

>>79542356
Nope. Russians covered the Eastern lands very quickly, which left it most unharmed. The battle of Berlin however was really fierce and resulted in lots of destruction.

>>79533634
I'm OK with that

>>79542644
You understand what i mean.
You don't have the right kind of population to settle.
A young capable population with births rate to keep repopulating the regions.

>>79542605
>In doing so they destroyed thousands and thousands of successful Mittelstand businesses, who often were world leaders in their respective markets.
Which then moved to the BRD and mostly to the south before the border was closed, which in turn is one of the causes of Bavaria's success (as well as sucking Amerishart dick)

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>>79542716
>Russians covered the Eastern lands very quickly, which left it most unharmed.

Lol, every single big city and most of small towns were destroyed.

I've already shown what Danzig looked like, now you have Breslau

>>79542637
yes, and?

You guys can bark as much as you want but reality is this: Germany is not going to pay. Poland will stay in the EU.

>>79542783
It's just funny how Germans use germanized Polish traitors to prove that Germans are the best. I don't believe in anything that people with German names and -ski surnames write about Germany and Poland, because they are usually trying to compensate their inferiority complex they have from being of Polish descent, so they pretend that they're "more German than Germans themselves".

>>79542766
Yes, and the East could've had this success instead if they kept them. That's not the West's fault. West Germany didn't determine the East German or Polish or Czech economic system. So no liability there. It's their own fault. They can cry for compensation all they want. In the end all they can really blame is themselves.

>>79542758
You just contradicted yourself from one post to the next. You've been completely blown the fuck out. It's like a Huelocaust.

>>79542808
>Poland will stay in the EU.

The problem is that the EU is going to change, only the countries with euro currency will be given euromonies soon (the separate budget for the eurozone), while Poland will be left with nothing, we will be in the EU officially, but there will be no money for us and no freedom of movement (that's what France is trying to do with our posted workers)

>>79542881
>In the end all they can really blame is themselves.
Well to be fair, Stalin and Chruschtschow also had a hand in it

>>79542881
>In the end all they can really blame is themselves.

Lol, do you think that East Germany, Poland or Czechia had the communist economic system because they wanted it?

>>79542864
Smart Poles recognize the superior culture and adopt it.

>>79542771
You could find a couple of streets like that in every city after the war. But entire boroughs destroyed is a privillege of West German cities. Numbers don't lie. The West had a higher percentage of destruction than the East. Yet, the West not only managed to get back on it's feet but even vertook the East and achieved quite some distance. This despite worse starting conditions. So you only got yourself to blame.

>>79533602
Isn't East Preussen given to Poland for reparations?

I thought Poland received lands instead of money

>>79543012
That's why smart Bulgars adopted the gypsy culture.

>>79542864
Regardless of the very doubtful validity of your remarks, what are you trying to tell me with regard to the discussion that was going on. You've completely left the topic. Is becuase you ran out of arguments that you now try to distract and divert attention?

>>79538191
BASED NIHON

>>79543019
>The West had a higher percentage of destruction than the East.

I doubt that the west had a higher percentage of destruction that this part of eastern Germany that was given to Poland. It could have had a higher percentage than DDR, though.

>>79543031
East Prussia is swampland and Königsberg. Russia took Königsberg.

>>79542978
Since Hitler fought against the communists with leverything he got and offered Poland to fight alongside him against the communist Soviet Union, yes, ultimately they chose their own fate.

>>79543068
But what are you even arguing about? We DO admit that communism hurt our economy badly, so what are you trying to prove? But it's not that Poles wanted communism, you know.

>>79542946
This is a real danger. This is why it's vital to keep PiS away from power in the next elections and vote for whoever who will support the adoption of the euro.

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>>79543048
Greek actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grecoman

Imagine being the primary recipient state of the biggest wealth transfer in human history, even bigger than the Marshal Fund, which are the EU structure and cohesion funds while still begging for more money. Has there been a more pathetic people in all of human history?

>>79542976
Sure there was some dismantling. But from this the West suffered, too. As per the Potsdam agreement the USSR was eligible to industrial equipment and facilities, which the Western allies made sure were dismantled and shipped. So again, no real excuse there.

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>>79542946
>there will be no money for us
Oh no.

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>>79543112
Why did Poland listen to the eternal Anglo? We could have been brothers in arms but instead they chose the retarded path.

>>79543141
Is this bait?

>>79543112
Hitler was a socialist as well and his economic policy was much closer to what the Soviets did than to capitalism. He destroyed thousands of Jewish mittelstand businesses, he forced small companies to merge and create big, state-controlled trusts etc. It's pretty much the same what Stalin did, just Hitler and Germans were more civilized people, so their reforms had slightly better results. But in the long-term, the Nazi economy would have collapsed, all post-war economists admit it.

>>79543172
Whatever. Even if we sometimes spend it on stupid things, Polish companies build it and get money and Polish workers are paid for it. Without this money, we'll get poorer.

>>79543207
Nope, I agree with him.

t. another pole

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>>79543207
Is this a bear?

Great country has poor neighbor.
U.K. has Ireland
USA has Mexico
Germany has Poland
Japan has Korea
Canada has USA

>>79543181
>We could have been brothers in arms

We couldn't, because Hitler considered Slavs subhumans. We would have been used as cannon fodder against the Russians, and when the USSR was already defeated, Hitler would have embarked on polocaust.

>>79543213
Pure drivel.
> Hitler also said that "I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative".

>>79543282
>>79543311
> Even if we sometimes spend it on stupid things, Polish companies build it and get money and Polish workers are paid for it.

Is this the power of Krautchan? The quality of posting has gone to shit. EU gibs are around 1% of GDP. Giving up your currency for short term gain is negroid tier thinking.

Really doing a good job convincing the rest of Europe that you aren't verminous leeches Poland, must say.

>>79543090
>I doubt
Fact don't change because you feel this or that way. Facts just stay facts. Numbers don't lie. The West suffered disproportionately more destruction than the East. The Allied bombers simply didn't have the range to go all the way to the East. Even Dresen is only number 16 on the list of most destroyed cities. The top spots are all in the West as a result of the allied bombing campaign.

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>>79542916
You simple refuses to acknowledge that your country is incapable of colonize anything.
Dude. I grow up in a immigrant town. I know whats is needed to cities to be rebuild and land to be farmed. And is not a bunch of 50 yo people who will do it.
Have 6 children, then you can start to talk about it.

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>>79543354
>taking the allied dick this deep

>>79543318
>U.K. has Ireland

Ireland is already richer than the UK.

>Japan has Korea


South Korea is already richer than Japan.

>>79543371
> Hitler also said

lol

>EU gibs are around 1% of GDP.

So? It's still better to have it than not to have it. Also, remember, that even if "direct" gibs are just 1%, a lot of western companies invest in Poland only because they know that Poland will be given gibs.

>>79543123
>But what are you even arguing about
Follow the backlinks and read the discussion. Preferably BEFORE you enter it.

>>79543405
>> Hitler also said
>lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

>EU gibs are around 1% of GDP.

So? It's still better to have it than not to have it. Also, remember, that even if "direct" gibs are just 1%, a lot of western companies invest in Poland only because they know that Poland will be given gibs.


It's better to have your own currency. If your debt is in a foreign currency you will become like Southern Europe.

>>79543381
>. Facts just stay facts.

I'd like to see proofs.

>The Allied bombers simply didn't have the range to go all the way to the East

lol, maybe you forgot that Russians bombed these cities from katyushas and other rocket launchers, when they were about to enter them? As I said, don't compare "Ostgebiete" that was conquered in 1944/early 1945, to DDR, that actually surrendered to Russians and there weren't many heavy clashes, except for Berlin there.

>>79542406
Because we're busy paying reparations for the first WW.

>>79543472
>lol
Please leave 4chan. You're obviously not from here.

>>79543157
Some economist calculated that the net payments that Germany contributed via the EU system have already exceeded the original demands of the Versailles treaty which were even higher than what was finally agreed on.

>>79543413
>Follow the backlinks and read the discussion.

But no one denied that communism hurt our economies, it's you who came up with bullshit like "hurr durr war destructions were not relevant, because communism was worse". Even if it was, it doesn't change the fact, that the war destructions did affect our economies. Sure, we would be doing much better without communism even if the destructions were still a thing, but you can't say that it's all communism's fault.

>>79543213
You don't know shit. Pick up a dictionary/encyclopedia and look up the word "expropriation". The two economic systems were nothing alike.

>>79543487
I am not, give back my KC, so I could go there, I hate this shitty chan, these shitty captchas, I hate that I have to wait a minute between posting and that I can attach only one photo. This is the most retarded chan I've ever seen.

But since KC is down and most of people are here, so I am.

>>79542605
>We already did.

Is Poland on par with Germany? No. You have to give more.

>Which is why you kept the Germans in the Sudetenland. Oh wait...
Seriously, how does it feel to be this dumb?

Yeah, keeping a potentially hostile minority (not to mention prone towards attacks from the natives) inside the country is a great idea Hans, you can be Merkel's advisor with that line of thinking.

The fact is you killed a significant portion of Poles, enabled the USSR to penetrate deep into the heartland of Europe and generally are responsible for half of the misery in Europe so you should be paying way more than you are now.

>legal experts say
Polish legal experts by any chance?

>>79543597
Don't you have karachan or vichan to go to, or are you some kind of non-polish diaspora?

Poland has ever demanded reparations to Russia?

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>>79543597
>butthurt Pole who is anally devastated about Germany uses a German chan
activates my almonds

>>79543472
>I'd like to see proofs.
At this time there exists more literature about the Second World War than a single human being can read in his lifetime. So take your pick, retard. You're free to chose.

>>79543622
>Members of the Polish ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party earlier in the day claimed that Warsaw had the right to demand the reparation payments not only from Berlin but also from Moscow — on the grounds of the 1921 Treaty of Riga between Poland and Soviet Russia.

I googled it for you.

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201709021057030156-poland-russia-repatriations/

>>79543621
I am Polish, but I want to discuss things with foreigners. It doesn't make sense to discuss ww2 with Poles, because we all have the same point of view mostly (except for trolls, but in fact they share the same views too, just they pretend they don't)

>>79543019
The West also received most of the population from the East and got Marshall plan.

>>79543622
For what

>>79541819
Boo fucking hoo.

>>79543671
>Marshall plan
massively blown out of proportion m8

>>79543650
KC is registered in the USA.

>>79543377
Collaborators, hush

>>79543371
"EU gibs" are not that big compared to GDP but they are not that small compared to our budget (!). But yes, they are helpful, not vital. EU founds are not the only reason to be in EU. They aren't even that important really. I understand that you don't get it, but there are people who see more in the idea of EU than you. You have the right to have a different opinion obviously.

>>79543671
The marshal plan was smaller that what we've already paid so far.

>>79543707
Yeah and Danzig is just under Polish administration

>>79543705
Still better than 5 year plans and Soviet "advisors"

>>79543576
>Pick up a dictionary/encyclopedia and look up the word "expropriation".

That's exactly what Soviets did with private-owned businesses. And what Hitler did with thousands of them.

>>79543729
>>79543729
>>79543729

>>79543390
You simply refuse to acknowledge that you talked shit and continue to talk shit.

>>79543739
http://whois.domaintools.com/krautchan.net

>IP Location United States - Arizona - Phoenix - Cloudflare Inc.
>ASN United States AS13335 CLOUDFLARENET - CloudFlare, Inc., US (registered Jul 14, 2010)

I'm sorry if it hurts you.

>>79543711
>there are people who see more in the idea of EU than you.
So what else is there to the EU other than ramps for the disabled? Car and tv factories aren't funded with this.

>>79543758
Sure, send a lot of elder people to a place and watch them die because barely can hold a shovel.

>>79543711
Your whole national budget would implode the next morning those funds were withdrawn. Not even an impact the size of a major natural disaster would have the same impact.

>>79543793
>imageboard is hosted in the US because "Germany"'s laws suck dick
woah

>>79543659
>say something
>claim that it's a well-known fact
>insult people who don't agree with you
>refuse to give proofs

this is pathetic

>>79543679
Also running over, looting and raping their country and forcing socialism on them?

>>79543533
I said READ. The discussion was about whether or not the territory gained was valuable and therefore proper compensation. And now fuck off, brainlet.

>>79543834
That's why it's not a German chan. It couldn't be German, because Germany is a totalitarian state without freedom of speech. How dare you to educate us on democracy?

>>79543888
Are you drunk?

>>79543747
Hitler expropriated Jewish citizens. Businesses he left in private hands. If they were Jewish owned they went into German hands. He was, if anything, a puppet of the business.
Compare that to the communist system.

>>79543832
>Your whole national budget would implode the next morning those funds were withdrawn. Not even an impact the size of a major natural disaster would have the same impact.

And what exactly does EU funding fund except for roundabouts, ramps, etc.?

>>79543863
>the territory gained was valuable

Exactly. It wasn't that valuable as you say, because it was destroyed by the war. and then you tried to "prove" that war destructions were irrelevant.

Sure, we could say, that some countries don't need much clay to become successful (Singapore or Hong Kong) and everyone knows that it's mostly the economic system + people that make a country successful, not the clay per se. But still, we can't underestimate these destructions, that's the reason why Czechia is so much better than Poland and sometimes even as good as Germany, despite having communism.

>>79543930
>Hitler expropriated Jewish citizens

He would have done the same to Poles one day, because we were considered subhumans by nazis, just like Jews. That's why choosing Hitler as an ally wouldn't have saved us and wouldn't have been any better than communism. Only the USA could save us in 1939.

>>79544003
But the point is that it was NOT communism for the Germans. It was not communism. Why don't you just admit you were wrong and move on.

>>79543927
Nope. It's funny, when the German government bullies Poland for not being democratic enough, while you are oppressing your own citizens, so they have to register websites in other countries.

>>79543612
>Is Poland on par with Germany? No. You have to give more.
You can't fill a bottomless barrel. The measure of compensation is not the state of Poland but th worth of what was given.

>a potentially hostile minority
Don't kid yourself. They lived alongside each other for centuries, since they got invited by Bohemians kings in the 13th century.

>The fact is you killed a significant portion of Poles
Which no one denied

>enabled the USSR
We're not responsible for other countries' action. Go to them if they harmed you.

>>79543834
>He doesn't know what Cloudflare is
Fucking brainlets

>>79544022
>But the point is that it was NOT communism for the Germans

Read my post one more time:

>Hitler was a socialist as well and his economic policy was much closer to what the Soviets did than to capitalism.

I didn't say that he was a communist, but that he was a hard-line socialist with completely anti-capitalist politicies, that made him CLOSER (but not equal of course) to the Soviet system, than to proper capitalism.

>>79542152
>that webm
god that still makes me laugh

>>79544036
Germany is still occupied by the US and our "politicians" are nothing but puppets
But yeah, keep blaming "Germany" for all your country's ills like the butthurt retard you are

>>79543817
>Car and tv factories aren't funded with this

To some extend they are, but that's not the point. EU has great impact on the quality of the Polish law (part of it are those ramps you mentioned). It has changed the direction of our economy - we produce a lot of German goods (a lot of good and some bad sides about it) but it also made it easy to trade with other EU countries. It revolutionized our personal freedom with schengen agreement. Geopoliticaly more united or even fererated EU could be an escape for us from the trap of our geography.

>>79538356
gooks arent even people, they need to be ruled over by japanese and chinese

>>79544070
>th worth of what was given

Is entirely subjective.

>They lived alongside each other for centuries

They also supported Hitler, didn't speak Czech and acted as a fifth column in the interwar period.

>We're not responsible for other countries' action.

You enabled the Soviets. You made communism look respectable. For that, you are responsible and for that you should pay. the only reason why you weren't dissected and made into an agricultural backwater is because you managed to make the USSR into powerhouse and a threat to the rest of Europe. Now Russia is manageable and you profited immensely from getting all the war debt forgiven while others had to pay so it's time to settle the debts.

>>79544198
shut up fat sharter, don't bully Korea

>brainlets droning on about EU gibs
here is some knowledge for you, the real leash around eastern europes neck and the real benefit to sucking western dick isn't EU gibs, but economic integration
the investments from western capitalists has become the foundation of growth and recovery from socialism
the real reason why any east euro member leaving would be suicide is because those investors would lose confidence if they did, because the supply chains would be disturbed

this is why brexit isn't going to make brits rich even though they were net losers by EU gibs, because EU gibs are a bloody distraction compared to the effect EU has on private business through it's laws and regulations

>>79538107
then take it up with Stalin, that happened after ww2. take the refugee's or take the sanctions or better yet, just fucking leave like the Brits. i can see why the Brits left the EU, to get the fuck away from you guys.

>>79544190
> EU has great impact on the quality of the Polish law (part of it are those ramps you mentioned).
Is this good or bad?

>It has changed the direction of our economy - we produce a lot of German goods (a lot of good and some bad sides about it) but it also made it easy to trade with other EU countries.
You don't need EU for this. You can have this with trade agreements.

>. It revolutionized our personal freedom with schengen agreement.
Does this benefit tourism in France or the Polish economy?

> Geopoliticaly more united or even fererated EU could be an escape for us from the trap of our geography.
>could
What it is now is a means to destroy European ethno-states.

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>>79539134
>This is an unrelated topic, but I read a ridiculously funny news article yesterday about a Russian gay who fled to Germany and applied as a refugee due to being oppressed in Russia or some shit.
>So, Germans approved his refugee status and sent him to a refugee camp. Which is filled with muslims.