Top 10 countries in your opinion?

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>>79530735
1. U.S.
2. Nothing else

china
japan
france
uk
germany
turkey
spain
poland
sweden
russia

Iran
Spain
Mongolia
Egypt
USA
Italy
China
France
Greece
Russia

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Why are there so many Swedes on the internet?

>>79530845
because they are all social outcasts like us

No order,

USA
Italy
France
UK
China
Japan
Australia
Switzerland
Germany
Spain I guess
Portugal I guess
Russia

Nobody else

belgium
finland
singapore
poland
latvia
lithuania
australia
canada
usa
new zealand

Based on their affects on history, economy, population, and culture
in no particular order (except USA)
1. USA
2. India
3. China
4. Iran
5. France
6. Spain
7. Japan
8. Russia
9. UK
10.Turkey

>>79530735
Based mostly on history
>1: US =/= UK
>2: Japan
>3: France =/= Italy
>4: Germany =/= Russia
>5: China
>6: India
>7: -
>8: -
>9: -
>10: Everyone else

1. Egypt
2. Rome
3. Persia
4. Mesopotamia
5. China
6. Holy Roman Empire
7. Macedonia
8. Russia
9. Does Mongolia even qualify?
10. France

>>79530735
>Based on their culture/history
In what way?
Honestly dont understand your question. Seems like a thread a brainlet would make.

USA has no culture other than killing natives

sort of like us except we forced them in to white families to breed them out.

Wtf @ ppl including poland, sweden, iran, SHITaly, australia, switzerland, belgium, finland, singapore, latvia, lithuania, canada, usa, and new zealand

>>79530735
Brazil
Usa
Canada
Mexico
Colombia
Argentina
Uruguay
Chile
Cuba
Panama

Hail America (the continent)

>>79530735
Inca Empire

>>79530845
Probably just Finns

1. middle east
2. southern Europe
3. china
4.-
5.-
6.-
7.-
8.-
9.-
10.-

In terms of relevance, economy:
1. Usa
2. Uk
3. Germany
4. Russia
5. France
6. China
7. Italy
8. Japan
9. Spain
10. Israel

1. China
2. Iran
3. Greece
4. India
5. Turkey
6. UK
7. Italy
8. Germany
9. France
10. Mongolia

Obviously Portugal
We are hisyorically by far one of the most important countries

Based on culture/history?

France
Britain
Turkey
Russia
Iran
Germany
Italy
Spain
China
Poland

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>>79531470
t. Alberto Barbosa

>>79530735
If your country has been playable in the Civilization series, you qualify. If it hasn't, you don't. Australia, congratulations. For some retarded reason you made the cut.

>>79531026
Pan-American nation when?

>>79531544
How about now?

>>79530820
THIS

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>>79531664
>>79530820
This is a good point.

No country is better than the USA, because the best people from all the other countries chose to immigrate here. We're a new world country, so we have all the best immigrants since they all (minus historical-slaves) chose to immigrate here on their own will.

Europeans didn't recently choose to immigrate to Europe, Chinese people didn't choose to immigrate to China, Indian people didn't choose to immigrate to India, etc.

But everyone in the USA chose to immigrate here. We have the best of the best, the best British, the best Italians, the best Russians, Germans, Indians, Polish, Chinese, Japanese, etc.

So when a Britfag insults the USA, they're basically insulting a coalition best British people + the best people of other cultures too.

and no one has more pride than MURICA

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>>79531971
Fully agree MURICA fuck yeah

There's no reason to ever leave this beautiful country. We're the most geographically diverse country on Earth.

Want a tropical vacation with volcanoes? Don't go to the Bahamas/Mexico/Mediterranean, go to Hawaii.

Want a cold tundra experience? Don't go to Russia, go to Alaska.

Want to experience Japanese culture? Don't go to Japan, go to San Francisco or Honolulu.

Want to see the fish culture of Nordic Europe? Go to Maine or Ballard in Seattle.

Want to see Europe? Go to New York or Vegas (there's a part of Vegas that looks just like Italy).

Plus we make the best movies, have the best universities, and create all the music on earth.

I will divide my top 10 in two halves because I'm autistic.

Consistent Top 5 (they have nice culture and history and are at least decent countries nowadays):
1. Italy
2. France
3. Japan
4. Spain
5. China (both)

Decadent Top 5 (they have great culture and history but their countries are in a sorry state nowadays):
1. Iran
2. Greece
3. India
4. Egypt
5. Iraq

>>79530735
>there's a greater Shanghai in the map
>there's no greater Guangzhou
why

>>79530831
>Spain.
Pathetic.

>>79530735
Only including countries that still exist today
1. USA
2. China
3. Britain
4. France
5. Spain
6. India
7. Germany
8. Turkey
9. Iran
10. Russia

>>79530735
History is overrated. Culture is what matters. We have the greatest culture in the world.

>>79533646
>Australia
>culture

Pick one

>>79533646
We don't have a culture.

>>79530735
Out of all civilisation cradles, only China exists. Does India count? It's such a shame what happened to Egypt.

>>79533727
The Indus River civilization is mostly entirely in modern Pakistan, which is an Islamic state, so I wouldn't count it or modern India.

>>79533766
>mostly entirely
Meant to say "almost entirely"

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>>79533727
chinese are subhumans who got fucked by invaders

Greek is the only one that survived with pure people

you chinese shitskin

1. Norway
2. Norway
3. Norway
4. Norway
5. Norway
6. Norway
7. Norway
8. Norway
9. Norway
10.Norway

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>>79533789
*blocks your path*

>>79533789
I am Lebanese but you're gonna call me an Arab shitskin anyway

>>79533806
norwegians are subhumans

>>79533813
and?
cunt eyed shitskin with dark genitals

>>79533821
you arab subhumans are very jealous of Greeks and turks
you manipulative asian subhumans

>>79533679
Fuck off Leb.
>>79533711
Yes we do. It's a twist of traditional Anglo-British culture but with our and American influence. We're still shaping it mind you.

>>79533727
Not really. The current people are very different generically and culturally from their ancestors. Maybe the Southern people can have some claim but they live the South hundreds of kilometers from where they originally used to.
Tbh it's only the Chinese and Greeks.

>>79533843
kek
you shitskin chinese

there are several studies
even a recent one
proving again that Greeks are direct descendants of Greeks

asian subhuman
always manipulative

>>79533861
t.urk

>>79533839
The Greeks aren't a civilisation cradle (although they were the cradle for "Western" civ) and I don't know how similar modern Greek culture is to Ancient Greek culture.

>>79533889
diaspora shitskin

new world flags
always a shitskin behind
canada worst
then australia
then america

>>79533861
*is bitchboy of Turks for 500 years*

>>79533899
>I don't know how similar modern Greek culture is to Ancient Greek culture.
Not similar at all. Indians still have their Vedic religion from thousands of years ago. So I think they have stronger cultural continuity than Greeks do.

>>79533899
look at this manipulative asian shitskin

>I don't know how similar modern Greek culture is to Ancient Greek culture.
its because you are a sneaky asian diaspora shitskin

>>79533919
thats a lie

manipulative asian shitskin with inferiority complex

>>79533908
I'm glad you only think I'm third-worst, Mehmet

Reminder that Greek girls are the easiest girls to fuck in Melbourne. They especially love it when you cum on their face and eyes,

>>79533927
this post is trash

because of me he is angry and starts to lie
manipulative asian mentality

a shitskin with dark genitals

>>79533932
>Its a lie
Boy have I got news for you

>>79533789
Kill yourself.

>>79533935
shitskin

>>79533937
you are the manipulative diaspora shitskin who came to my threads on pol

you came to most of my threads you sneaky asian shitskin

shitskin australia
only subhumans

>>79533958
you have got lies manipultive asian shitskin

>>79533965
you are the latino subhuman in a 3rd world shithole
not me

>>79533839
It's hard to tell with Indian continuity but Greeks are totally different culturally. Greeks even forget they were Greek and instead claimed Roman identity during the Byzantine empire.

>>79533985
asian shitskin continues to lie

manipulative asiatic behavior

>>79533899
Modern Greek culture is highly divergent from ancient Greek culture, but it's still stronger than say -- Egyptian culture. Indian culture was surprisingly better preserved despite the constant fragmentation and invasion. China was largely isolated and even foreign dynasties didn't culturally alter it much.

>>79533985
This. Greeks were identifying as Roman and not Greek for about a thousand years even if they continued to speak Greek.

>>79533985
Then it's probably just China. All the ancient people were eventually raped by somebody else and then forged new identities after that but chinks seem to be the only ones that carried a lot of their original culture to the 20th century. Even modern day Hinduism is vastly different to ancient Hinduism.

>>79534067
manipultive asian shitskin

he is lying about Greek history because he has an inferiority complex

and manipulation is normal for asiatic subhumans

>>79533727
>>79533766
Even before that, there's a disconnection between the Indus Valley civilizations and ancient (Vedic) India akin to the gap between the Mycenaeans and Minoans and classical Greece. We still haven't deciphered Indus Valley writings, and it is doubtful that we ever will.

China technically got overrun by barbarians a few times, but its culture persisted and we never lost the ability to read their moonrunes and we had successive political entities from the iron age to last century. Perhaps a bigger blow was the cultural revolution, but not even the loss of one generation is enough to erase that amount of culture accumulated over millennia. Still, I wish the Chinese on the mainland took better care of their cultural artifacts.

>three out of four cradles of civilization in the old world got ISLAM'd
Impressive, really. Depressing, but impressive.

keep in mind

these are the shitskins insulting you and pretending to be white at the same time in other threads

>>79534107
Fear the Turkish warrior

Civilisation cradles
>Mesopotamia
>Indus Valley
>China
>Egypt
>Central Andes
>Mesoamerica

This is pretty depressing.

>>79530882
This but Greece instead of fucking Australia

>>79534188
Egypt still exists tho?

>>79534188
>>79533789
sneaky manipulative asian shitskin

you have an inferiority complex and are jealous of Greeks

you shitskinned subhuman with dark genitals and black eyes

>>79534197
shitskin

>>79534188
>Mesoamerica
I HATE THE ETERNAL IBERIAN

>>79534220
diaspora shitskin in australia

>>79534230
because you are a shitskin with dark genitals and jealous of light skinned people

>>79534188
>Mesopotamia
>Egypt
Arab'd, and then Turk'd.
>Indus valley
Turk'd

>Central Andes
>Mesoamerica
Spanish'd

>China
Hun'd, Jurchen'd, Mongol'd, Manchu'd, and yet they were still able to assimilate their conquerors every single time.

Russia
France
Swiss
Sweden
Denmark
Iran
Germany
Usa
Australia
New zeland

>>79534268
Egypt was Persian'd, Roman'd, Greek'd, Islam'd, Turk'd, British'd

>>79534355
>g*rman subhuman calling anyone else a subhuman
Thanks g*rman you destroyed europe once again
Meanwhile croatia was defending europe from muslim meance for centuries

>>79534350
Kek 2000 years under foreign rule

1. USA
The rest is quite irrelevant

>>79534426
I am a Greek you slavic subhuman

>>79534426
why bother replying to b8?

>>79534350
Technically so was Mesopotamia, although you have to include Akkad, Assyria and Babylonia for it too.

But I hesitated to include them because the after effects that you see on Egypt and Mesopotamia are pretty much 100% based on the arabization.

>>79534441
america is a shitskin country

>>79534461
its not a bait you sneaky asian shitskin

>>79534426
He's a mentally ill turk, don't waste your time.

>>79534486
you are angry because you dont like the truth you latino subhuman

>>79530735
>there are people IN THIS VERY THREAD that unironically dont include italy in their ranking
fuck's wrong with you mongrels?

>>79534077
>>79534067
>>79533994
No not even China. Most Chinese people aren't religious anymore

>>79535105
Chinese people were never religious in the western sense of the word.

They've always had Confucianism, which lives on in the cultural mindset of every Chinese (save for the "lost generation") as well as every culture derived from the Chinese.

Buddhism and Taoism forged a lot of culture over the centuries, but they were never religions "practiced" in the same sense that the West practice Christianity or MENA practices Islam, but more akin to the way Western people practice enlightenment ideals nowadays regardless of religion, and they were never majority religions to begin with.

And most of all, religion isn't the same as culture.

Roman Empire
Spain
Greece
Portugal
France
UK
Germany
Japan
Russia
USA

>all these illiterates saying Iran as if their culture wasn't based on Mesopotamia until today

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>>79530735
>>79535240
>>79534268

Idc if India hasn't "held" their ancient Karnatic roots. I think they have (like they still have classical music and medieval dances like bharatnatyam).

Besides, Medieval India seems like it has the cool stuff

>>79535397
Greek civilization is the most influential
i read this in an older anglo book when brits werent subhumans like today

>>79535424
But it wasn't?

Even pre-islamic Persia was already distant enough from Mesopotamia to call that into question, but now it's a whole different beast.

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>>79530735
Africa should be number one. We essentially invented humans since all humans came from Africa. We also created some of the best music known to man (pic related is just a modern contribution. It goes WAY back) and contributed to some of the greatest inventions. There's actually a dispute going on right now about African mathematicians in history, lots of their work has been stolen by the Greeks, Turks, Indians, Chinese, but the ideas all originate from one place.

>>79535571
Greeks were influential sure, but only in BS like philosophy, which is useless today. Look at where Greece is today. Poor.

>>79535527
India HAD karnatic culture but besides that + art, they didn't do anything. Sure they invented "zero", but anyone could've done that (they just did it first). And look where they are today.

>>79535240
Similar to greek. They made philosophy and maybe some math contributions. Mostly, they invented communism (which ruined Russia).

>>79535424
You are retarded.

>>79535746
WE

>>79535845
Were amazing people before the shitty europeans/asians came. Africa isn't even that bad today. Look at India or China if you want to know bad.

>>79535746
are you legally retarded, i know this is obvious bait but, the term communism was fucking coined by two germans

>>79535890
WUZ

If we're including successor states who barely even deserve the mantle - then:

Italy
Britain
China
Iran
Greece
France
India
Spain
Egypt
Japan

Obviously every Middle Eastern State, China and India would be out of the running if we're judging what has become of what they inherited.

>>79536033
If you know it's bait then don't respond to it.

>>79533766
>>79533779
over half the sites discovered are in modern india including lothal-AKA the biggest one.

>>79535746
>We essentially invented humans
>We also created some of the best music known to man (pic related [fucking beyonce] is just a modern contribution.
>lots of their work has been stolen by the Greeks, Turks, Indians, Chinese
>only in BS like philosophy, which is useless today.
>And look where they are today.
>Similar to greek. (...) Mostly, they invented communism (which ruined Russia).

Holy shit this fucking post.

>>79535890
>Africa isn't even that bad today. Look at India or China if you want to know bad.

And it just keeps going.

>>79536040
KANGZ

>>79535890
>india and china are bad
>africa is great.

>>79535746
>implying beyonce is even close to being audible music

>>79535890
hahahaha good post
go to somalia and spend a day without people around you and you'll see how "great" africa is

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>>79531971
>But everyone in the USA chose to immigrate here. We have the best of the best
Are you sure they are sending their best?

>>79534107
>IVC culture stopped existing.
It shifted into vedic culture pretty well m8.

Thread is about history and 90% of the posters don't mention Greece . Seriously what the fuck .....

>>79530735
Iraq
Egypt
Greece
Iran
China
India
Italy
Germany
UK
US

i will never reply to a non european flag again

you shouldnt do it either

>>79536181
this board is just non whites and diaspora

USA
China
Germany
UK
France
Italy
Portugal
Russia
India
Spain

>>79536175
Vedic culture is indeed a continuation given what we know of IVC, but there's still a gap like the one after the Bronze Age collapse for the Greeks.

>>79536195
ayo hol up so you are sayin you be of some great

>>79536181
most of them mentioned greece in passing pavlos.

>>79536239
great post

>>79536210
The main synonym of diaspora is Greece.

>>79536256
Can you explain to me why all Americans think US is so great ?

>>79536246
In what way particularly? the earliest vedic cities were constructed in a manner similar to the IVC ones, late harappan era cities had fire altars and the measurement system, loads of minor and major gods and others were lifted off them. If anything the PIE culture got merged into a new indian one where the previous indo european gods began to slide into irrelevance in favour of the trimurti.
Depending on where you want to star counting where indian culture starts you can start from either one of those points.

>>79530735
Flag
>unrelated to any culture outside the mountains
>Direct descendants of colchis
>Epic history

>>79536312
>wide country, like really vast.
>people absolutely believe that the american dream is real, and to a certain extent it still is.
>community that leaves you space to develop on your own.
I respect those values, which is why I emigrated to the united states.

>culture and history

1. Poland
2. Russia
3. Mongolia

>>79536313
I'm not disputing any of that. Indeed, PIE peoples were assimilated into the IVC, but this happened after "something" happened to it that required the IVC to migrate further into the subcontinent and lose its writing. That's what I mean by the gap.

>>79536415
All the people puting mongolia....They just have done one thing....And on the culture side, well...

>>79536415
>lose
probably missing the IVC rosetta stone. the pottery slowly shifted from harappan to NPW slowly over time as well.

in no order
England
Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
Canada
France
Russia
Argentina
Chile
Portugal

>>79536123
India and China are bad. Stop being racist, Queen Africa is based.

>>79536341
what history (explain)

>>79536348
it's like minecraft@!!!111 irl

>>79536348
Yet still you have to pay for every , even for your education and healthcare. How's that great ?

>>79536650
I didn't.
Most people when it boils down to it support cheaper healthcare and better college.
That shit requires taxing the rich.
Guess who controls media?

>>79536348
>wide country, like really vast.
Russia, Canada and China are bigger. Even Brazil is, if you exclude Alaska.

More importantly, I don't see why this helps answer anon's question.

>people absolutely believe that the american dream is real, and to a certain extent it still is.
It is not. I understand if you call it the land of opportunities, because really, there are a lot more opportunities there (even for foreigners), than most other places in the world. The foreigners part is really important, since most similarly sized and/or growing economies are generally closed to foreigners unless they're already wealthy investors.

However, the American dream where you can pull yourself by your bootstraps and make a fortune through hard work is really a fairy tale. The opportunities are there, but you'll be forced to trample and exploit other people in order to reach your goal. It'll be cunning and not hard work what gets you there.

>community that leaves you space to develop on your own.
This is much too vague to respond. I'm not entirely sure what you mean here.

Still, this has nothing to do with >history and culture

>>79536475
Did you reply to me by accident?

>>79536480
The fact that we need a rosetta stone in the first place means that the writing was lost at some point. Once again, this is just like how Minoan and Mycenaean civillizations had a gap (a "dark age") before reaching classical Greece. Greek culture wasn't lost during that time, but there's a noticeable gap in its continuum.

1. USA
2. UK
3. Canada
4. Australia
5. New Zealand

Fuck the rest.

>>79533428
I'd put Greece and the UK in your consistent top 5 though.

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>>79532107
> not France.

Want a tropical vacation with volcanoes? Don't go to the Bahamas/Mexico/Mediterranean, go to Bora Bora or Nouvelle Calédonie, or even La Réunion.

Want a cold tundra experience? Don't go to Russia, go to St Pierre et Miquelon (or Québec if you want to feel exotic).

Want to experience Japanese culture? Don't go to Japan, go to Lyon, Paris or Toulouse in the Asian districts or at any Japoan Expo we hold every three months.

Want to see the fish culture of Nordic Europe? Go to London, fifth French city by its population full of Nordic looking landwhales !

Want to see Europe? Just do a road-trip through metropolitan France, from north to South you'll experience variations of Spain, England, Germany, Switzerland or Italy.

Plus we make the best movies, have the best universities, and we have the best food on Earth, second only to the Italian one which is right next to us.

Come at me bro, I'll fight you.

1. Djibouti
2. East Timor
3. Swaziland
4. Mushroom kingdom
5. Belgium
6. Azerbaijan
7. USA
8. Gondor
9. Netherlands
10. Swaziland again

>>79537037
fuck ive been french fried

>>79536884
>UK
It's hard to remove Italy, France or China. And since we're not talking about influence or power, but history and culture, I'm more inclined to give an edge to Spain and Japan simply because their histories are a lot more interesting and their cultures a lot more vibrant, at least in my opinion.

>Greece
The modern Greek state regained independence from the Ottomans less than two years ago, and even before that, it had existed as a successor state to Rome, not Greece. It is significantly different from ancient Greece, which basically ceased to exist when conquered by Rome. More importantly, the state itself seems to be on a permanent state of economic crisis, which is exactly the type of situation I'd classify as a "sorry state."

You might say that Italy unified relatively recently, but it had maintained its cultural identity and any foreign power that governed part of its territory was a close "sister" state, like the crown of Aragon. You might say China had been ruled by foreigners until recently, but Manchu's (and others) were assimilated in such a way that the Ottomans never were into Greek culture. You can say "cultural revolution", to which I'd mention that's exactly the reason China lands on 5th instead of 1st on that list. It's also hard to put China as decadent when it is currently the 2nd power in the world and still rising.

>>79533428
>3. India
how is india in a sorry state compared to a hundred years ago?

>>79537457
because they poop! obviously pooping ruins a whole nation + 8000 years of history

>>79537457
>compared to a hundred years ago
Why would I compare it its lowest state when I can compare it to

>>79537474 >8000+ years of history?

India falls under the same problem as Greece. It was ruled by foreigners for most of its modern history and it is still only starting to develop now. And it's been developing great recently with competent leadership, but it's still playing catch up to the similarly humiliated Chinese and really does not get to the living standards of any country I ranked above it save for (maybe) Iran. Things might change in the near future, but that's the situation right now.

>>79537474
I have never made a public defecation joke.

Also, history is what is recorded, which for the Indian subcontinent starts about 5000 years ago at the earliest. Everything before that is (literally) pre-history.

>>79537428
You can state that for almost every nation that exists . Our culture is intact both from the Ottomans and the Romans (excluding some islands ) . Plus the thread was also about history

>>79537725
>Our culture is intact both from the Ottomans
I never implied the Ottomans had changed your culture, only that you were being ruled by a foreign power that never assimilated to yours.

>and the Romans
I highly doubt that, given that the Greek state that existed throughout the whole Middle Ages was Roman first and Greek second despite the WRE and Rome itself being lost to barbarians centuries beforehand. Even after independence, you looked West for the basis for your modern nation state (both for the Kingdom and the subsequent Republic), not towards ancient Greece.

>Plus the thread was also about history
Greece has a very rich history from the time of the Minoans to its conquest by Rome. Then it gets put on hold until the modern nation state declared independence from the Ottomans.

And in any case, the crisis in your country is the main reason I've put it on the second list. If Italy was the one in crisis while Greece was one of the main players Europe, their positions would be the other way around, because first and foremost, the division I made isn't based on how legitimate the claim of each country to its ancient culture is, just how well the country is doing right now compared to its legacy.

And honestly, I didn't expect people to care so much about my silly list.

>>79536033
(((Germans)))
Fucking North Africans I swear

1.USA
2.France
3.Poland
4.Italy
5.Egypt
6.Turkey
7. UK
I think that's all, the only countries I really love are the ones where being a Republic is a historical and cultural context

>>79530735
1. Pre 2013 Sweden
2. USA
3. Japan
4. Norway
5.
6.


... Last. Denmark.

>>79530845
We are very international.

>>79537692
>ruled by foreigners
Just like the chinese then? WIth rulers becoming indianized including the mughals?
>living standards
which were downright terrible for pretty much all of indian history.

>>79531971
:D haha be proud to have made the lowest people of Europe an great country

>>79530735
1. China
2. Italy
3. Greece
4. Egypt
5. France
6. Iraq and Iran
7. India
8. UK
9. Spain and Portugal/Iberian Peninsula
10. USA
Honorable mentions: Japan, Russia. No bias was involved in the making of this ranking, or you can be sure that France would be higher because I'm a huge ouiaboo.

>>79538753
Forgot to mention that I only ranked them based on their history, not their culture.

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>>79538533

>>79538908
spise min kuk.

>>79533428
>>79538753
Good lists

>>79530845
NAZI

>>79536615
It's big, but summarize it starts with Iberia and Colchis two ancient kartvelian cultures, so even tho we've changed we are their direct descendants(hence the name sakartvelo,kartveli), so its like if sumerians and egyptians had their own country and spoke their own language. We are living in a very hard region, every empire that rose from the east tried to conquer us, some succeded, some didn't, but noone took our identity and faith.Well, I'm an atheist myself and support pagan tradition as cultural monuments, but without christianity we would be muslim and speak arabic or turkic at this point. Epic thing was impossible victories like for example battle of didgori, which triggers turks even today.

China
France
England/UK
Iran
Greece
Turkey
USA
Italy
Spain
Russia

In no order.

>ABKHAZIA
>""""COUNTRY"""""

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA

Based mostly on history. But I don't know how to rank them.

Egypt
China
India
Greece
Iran
France
Britain
Italy
Spain
Iraq

>>79530845
Dutch posters are in the top 10, yet they still feel so irrelevant. Why?

>>79539647
It's just like their history. The Netherlands has done a lot but nobody remembers it.

>>79537692
>It was ruled by foreigners for most of its modern history
That's true for neither Greece nor India.

>>79530845

What else can Swedish men do when AhmeChads are fucking their women?

>>79530735
1. France
2. The rest

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>mfw portugal appears in all this lists

finland
countries that like finland
not sweden not russia

1. Iraq
2. Egypt
3. Iran
4. China
5. India
6. Yemen
7. Greece
8. Italy
9. France
10. UK

Not in any order, really

>>79530735
Usa
France
Uk
India
China
Japan
Italy
Spain
Germany
Rusia

>>79543590
>Japan

in no particular order and slightly more than 10,

the nordic countries
czechia/slovakia
netherlands
germany
france
switzerland
canada
japan
the baltics
auz/nz

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>>79530735
The UK and France are the only two truly relevant countries ever tbqh. Yeah I'll throw in the US too go on then.

>>79530735
Colombia
USA
Spain
Brazil
Argentina
Canada
Mexico
UK
France
Australia

>>79545009
>auz
Not sure if you're memeing but thanks lad. I feel the same way.

>>79545136
my bad, I keep butchering aus up with oz
<3

>>79538602
Yes, they were eventually Indianized, but it came as a trade off with huge chunks of the population becoming Persianized/Islamized, hence Pakistan and Bangladesh. And they're not even the last rulers of India before the current state.

Living standards for the populous were downright horrible everywhere for all of human history before modernity. But previously influential countries have managed to raise the living standards of most of the population. Even China has managed to increase its urban middle class, and it's still raising. As far as I'm aware that's also happening in India to an extent, but the process is still in very early stages.

>>79541181
What?

Greece was part of the Ottoman Empire from the 15th century until the 19th century.
Most of India was ruled by the Mughals, then various European powers, and then exclusively the Brits from around the 16th century until the 20th.

I don't even know how you're disagreeing with that statement. Is it a problem with the definition of "modern" history? Because the "modern" period starts around the time of the fall of Constantinople and the discovery of the Americas under most definitions.

>>79545087
What an ignorant statement desu.

>>79545534
>>79545534
>Greece was part of the Ottoman Empire from the 15th century until the 19th century.
They were vassal states most of the time. And even then it was only around four centuries with constant rebellions.
>Most of India was ruled by the Mughals, then various European powers, and then exclusively the Brits from around the 16th century until the 20th.
The Dutch and Portuguese actually failed a lot of their planned colonization. The Mughals reach wouldn't extend across all of India until the early eighteenth century. And the British takeover of the continent wouldn't start until the late eighteenth century.

>>79544830
ん?どうしたよパヨク?

>>79530735
India (until Mughal)
China (before PRC but PRC is getting better and better these days)
The Middle East (Mesopotamia, the Islamic Empire, Ottoman)
Jews (or mb just Levant in general)
Anglos (USA and the UK)
France
Germanics (Germany and Austria)
Russia (Soviet alone would qualify)
Iberia (both Spain and Portugal)
Greco-Roman (Rome, Greece, Byzantine)

India
China
Russia
Hellas
Mid East
Roman Empire

>>79530963
UK and Japan, more important than us?

>>79545009
Based Brit. I'm going to buy myself some fish and chips for breakfest tomorrowl

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>>79535746

>>79530735
Who has been the most relevant ethnic group throughout history? I would probably say the Italians but the Chinese make a strong argument.

You could also make an argument for the British but they weren't very relevant until the Middle Ages I think.

>>79530735
Greece
Italy
Spain
France
Netherlands
UK
Russia
USA
Japan
China

Iran
Greece
Italy
India
China
France
Germany
UK
USA
Russia or Spain

>>79533789
How does this map not include Media/Persia?

>>79547253
>Hellas

Almost made me cry

>>79537037
I will slot you, frog

>>79536239
>no Japan

Beautiful. Weebs are delusional.

San Marino
Vatican City
Luxembourg
Seychelles
Suriname
Nicaragua
Andorra
Greenland
Mongolia
Congo

>>79549509
It would overlap with mesopotamia and look like shit

>>79530980
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

>>79553354
>no Japan
But OP said about culture and in 2k17 it's pretty obvious that all human culture before existed only to make a way to the highest achievement of our civilization - anime.

>>79530735
by importance:
1. Italy
2. China
3. Greece
4. Great Britain
5. Germany
6. France
7. Israel
8. Egypt
9. India
10. Iran

>>79558371
also, honorable mentions, in no particular order:
Spain
Russia
Netherlands
Iraq
Turkey
Sweden
Portugal
Poland
Armenia
Austria
Japan
Belgium
Switzerland
Mongolia
not sure about Korea, Hungary, Denmark, Ireland, Syria, Ethiopia
I think US should be at 8. place, so Iran would be out of top 10

>>79533806
nice

1. Ancient Greece
2. UK
3. China
4. Japan
5. Germany
6. Russia
7. Poland
8. Norway
9. Finland
10. USA

>>79539022
Do you speak Georgia/a caucasian language?

I've heard Georgia is technically in Asia, and it has lots of Asian influence, which I find cool

>>79545009
>czechia/slovakia
>no poland
Dear UK, you're always so distant. You make me cry.

>>79554346
>Congo
We're talking about countries, not dances xddd

>>79558371
I would definitely put India/Iran/Egypt/Isreal higher than Britain, Germany, and France. The latter countries are much newer and have had a lesser impact.

Gtfo fags, here is the list
Thailand
Venezuela
Congo
Luxemburg
Albania
Ivory coast
USA
Rest is irelevant

1. Portugal
2. Portugal
3. Lusitania
4. Portugal
5. Portugal
6. Portugal
7. Cristiano Ronaldo
8. Portugal
9. Portugal
10. Portugal
11. Portugal
12. Portugal
13. Cape Verde
14. São Tomé and Príncipe
15. Portugal
16. Portugal
17. Portugal
18. Portugal
19. Portugal
20. Portugal
21. Portugal
22. Any Iberian Kingdom/Region except castile
23. Portugal
24. Portugal
25. Portugal
26. Portugal
27. Portugal
28. Portugal
29. Portugal
30. Caralho

>>79530735
This is the only acceptable list:
UK
US
Spain
Greece
Italy
France
China
Japan
Russia
Egypt

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France
Ireland
Netherlands
Australia/NZ
USA
Kanada
Germany
Japan [not culture]
China [not culture]
Turkey [not culture]

>>79561462
t. wide mouth aka portugeese

>>79530845
where do you find these statics?

>>79561575
sorry.
May I correct myself?

3. America
2 is England

>>79561787
t. niger

>>79561871
hi scotland, you suck.

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>>79561983
and you swallow, portugal

>>79561037
these countries pretty much created the world we are living in - industrial revolution, modern borders, state organization and so on

>>79563025
not to mention modern science:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_laureates_per_capita

Israel
Arabia
France
Germany
Russia
China

>>79533985
It's the other way around. They forgot that they're Romans and began thinking they were Greeks. They probably switched the name specifically to mean they weren't Pagans, now they reversed to the Pagan word while Ottomans would have turned them into Turks if they were "Greeks" (i.e., Pagans)

>>79535579
This is also backwards. Persia was wholly different from Mesopotamia before Arabs, now it's very similar.

>>79563025
But desu without the ones listed before we wouldnt have been able to reach that far in the first place.

>>79546083
>only a vassal state
Aside from the from the most important Greek city falling permanently onto Ottoman's hands, all of mainland Greece was part of the Empire for most of the time we're talking about. Many of the islands escaped Ottoman conquest, but they were still ruled by a foreigner in the form of Venice to begin with.

>And even then it was only around four centuries
>out of 6 that we can call "modernity"
Hmmmm.

>India
Yeah, that's the thing. The very concept of a united India comes from colonization. You can say that the Mughals didn't control all of India, but India as we understand it didn't exist to begin with at the time. The whole subcontinent was balkanized, and the Mughal Empire was one of the most influential powers in the region.

China
Egypt
India
Rome
Japan
Spain
Greece
Russia
France
Persia

In no particul order

Another thing about mentioning Iran instead of Iraq, just because Iran slowly became the political center in the region doesn't mean their "culture" was ever bigger than Mesopotamia's. People seem to think they've magically been irrelevant but there are two entire religions with possibly a majority living in/originating from Mesopotamia. The holiest city in Iran's majority religion is in Iraq and Zoroastrians are also more numerous in India than in Iran. Iran just became wealthier than them and only very slowly.

>>79549509
For the same reason it doesn't include the Roman Empire.

>>79564143
>Persia was wholly different from Mesopotamia before Arabs
This is pretty much what I said.

>now it's very similar
What exactly do you mean? Is current Iran similar to current Iraq? Then yeah, but that's because both Persia and Mesopotamia were changed by the Arabs, not because the Arabs changed Persia to look more like ancient Mesopotamia.

>>79530845
See >>79531279
There are 100 000's of finns in Sweden (me included) and finns love imageboards.

>>79564238
of course, that's why I listed them even though in the last ~300 years they had hardly any impact on civilization

China
North Korea
Finland
Poland
South Korea
Brazil
Egypt
Iran
France
USA