Were the crusades defensive wars?

>>79512150
the first one maybe, the rest is just full unorganized autism

>>79512251
but was it defensive autism?

Of course. The next one will be offensive, though. Chriatian China is going to take back Europe for Christendom from mudslimes in the year 2117.

>>79512303
almost
I think it was mostly just sheer autism

>>79512325
>is not anticipating the islamification of China

things never get better

>>79512150
It's a confusing clusterfuck of causes so initially yes but later it was Christian and Muslim leaders conspiring with each other to fuck over other leaders of their own faith. Basically a lot of it was just normal feudal shit disguised as a holy war.

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>>79512150

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>thirty years war
>Charlemagne killing the Saxons
That has nothing at all to do with the crusades.

>>79512930
meant for
>>79512648

Yes, against the SELJUK TURKS.

The Seljuks disrupted the pilgrim routes, threatened the Byzantine empire and ravaged the holy land.

Previous Muslim lords in the Holy land had been okay, but Turks were basically Gog and Magog incarnate.

>>79512648
Most of the knight that ravaged and pillaged to the point of the Byzantine empire collapsing were from modern day GERMANY.

>>79512303
The fourth crusade was literally full blown autism

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>>79513154

>>79513203
Forgot
>Made the crusaders pillage and massacre a Christian city for him