Goodbye USA

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>>79471422

we still have more mcdonalds than u

>>79471422
I've been reading about the "downfall of the USA" for the past decade now. Still waiting for it to happen.

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>oil exporting shithole like Russia will somehow benefit from it.
elaborate

>>79471540
you didn't lose major wars in the past decade my friend. Now you are literally losing the most geopolitically important country in the middle east

>>79471556
All Oil transactions in the world are made in US Dollars, which then creates an artificial global demand for US Dollars which gives more money for the US to spend wherever they want, including military, infrastructure, banks, technology and whatever, since it got the demand for it, whereas everyother country would suffer from hyperinflation and be suscetible to the world economy which is controlled by the US. Russia and China being able to kill the US dollar as a reserve currency is literally undermining the US way of life and the US economic hegemony and the US will have to adapt to this fate, which in this case they won't be able to simply have an economy based on printing money

>>79471556
Also Russia and other countries benefit due to the fact they will share this global demand in Oil Transactions now, and be able to control a part of the flow of the money worldwide, giving them a major boost in their economies and their influence worldwide

>>79471422
Russia isn't doing shit. So next time you shitpost this, dont' include them
Also you Brazilians need to fix your own fucking problems

I hope the US gets fucking destroyed, they deserve every single thing that's coming to them.

>>79471749
You don't mean that

>>79471760
Yes we do

I too hope United States gets hit by a massive recession and it's superpower status is severely reduced to pre-WW1 state.

Chinks needs to go too but I'm fairly sure with Americans not being able to afford Chinese shit, Chinese economy will go under as well.

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FUCKING DELETE THIS

>>79471749
THIS

>>79471673
80percent of international transactions are conducted in US dollars fucktard. People said the same thing about the riot supplanting the dollar 15 years ago - how did that go I wonder? And Europe is a larger economy than Russia and China combined.

>>79471760
He doesn't
We like to bitch about you because you are the top dog, but should you be in trouble, we will be there to help you

Hopefully. Sick and tired of being involved in every global political scandal and hopefully we can go back to how things were pre-WWII isolationist wise.

Why do Euros want to see the downfall of the US? What about NATO? What if Americans get up one morning and say "we can't afford to provide security for NATO nations anymore because solving economic crisis is more important. You're on your own" What is Europe gonna do before the Russians?

>>79471866
And how much of it is it based on commodities? Especially oil commodities? It's not because people have a choice in this matter, it's because you basically forced countries like Saudi Arabia, Chile, Japan, Germany into it. Basically every "ally" of the US is the ones that keep on this transaction in US Dollars only policy, and your "enemies" are those that defy it.

>>79471934
Western Europeans, me included, don't believe that Russia activly wants to invade Europe

>>79471934
>Why do Euros want to see the downfall of the US?
Because they actively support the muslims here.

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>>79471934
Europe before the US was the center of the world. Europe after the US is the laughing stock of the world

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>>79471949
Given that overall commodity prices have fallen while commodity volumes have plunged, commodities almost certainly don't make up a majority of dollar transactions.

A significant portion is actually capital inflows to the US lel

>>79471962
But they want to invade parts of EU right? Finland, Estonia, etc.
>>79471994
Do they? That is kind of a problem then
>>79472025
They made themselves miserable by going too far into leftism. Not necessarily American influence.

>>79472156
commodities prices having falling have nothing to do with the demand for US dollars my friend. It just have to do with the supply and demand of those commodities. US dollar is the reserve currency because all commodities are negotiated in it, hence the artificial demand for it and why people/companies/countries have their savings in it

>>79472234
why do you keep posting under a korean flag? you can't be possibly this stupid

>>79472025
>Europe after the US is the laughing stock of the world
I don't think anyone besides maybe americans from wealthy states like California has any basis to "laugh" at europe though.

>>79471889
I won't.

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The percentage of global trade done in dollars has only gone up over the last 7 years though.

>>79471962
That's all they want and that's what they've been doing lately.

>>79471934
The EU was created by the USA, the "migrant crisis" was created by the USA, the terrorist attacks are indirectly caused by the USA. America is the root of all evil, it's probably the most destructive thing to ever happen to the planet and we are all suffering because of them.

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>>79472456
>Euroshart understanding of California

I mean i know that Slavs aren't assumed to be the brightest minds in the room, but in what world is California the best state to live in? All the have going for them is MUH $2.8T GDP and MUH BEACHES (Florida has infinitely better beaches anyway)

When it comes to a QOL discussion, New England absolutely destroys the west coast.

>>79472766
And yet you do nothing about it but submit obediently. Why is your continent full of cucks anyway and losers anyway?

>>79472832
Why is your country full of capitalist psychopaths hell-bent on destroying the planet and race-mixing Europe? Fuck you Americans, you all deserve to get murdered.

>>79472795
>american reading comprehension
Your butthurt shows. I said wealthy states LIKE california not wealthy state of california.

Go back to school you cumguzzling faggot.

>>79471934
The US has been constantly fucking up at everything it has attempted for the last few decades. Even taking care of its own citizens seems to be an impossibility.

>>79472883
because you let us and we profit from it you cucked slave. wacha gonna do about it

>>79472766
>>79472883
I have to agree with the pig for once.

>>79473005
prime example of the american mentality.
>as long as I can make money off of it, who cares about how it affects the world?
you subhumans would literally sell your family members if it meant getting a new iphone.

>>79471562
>you didn't lose major wars in the past decade my friend. Now you are literally losing the most geopolitically important country in the middle east

thats news to me, anon. you mind naming a single war we've fought since WWII that we've won? all our conflicts are meant to stir the pot around resources we want. winning isn't even remotely important. the syrian civil war is about getting access to oil in golan heights for israel, knocking down a country that threatens saudi's hegemony, and making boatloads of money off of investing in guns, oil drilling companies and PMCs. all this shit is already happening right now, and even if assad wins (bestcase scenario) and gets to be butt-buddies with china or russia, it wont matter because the evil sacks of shit that run this country will have made trillions, and will just prop everything up and keep us on bread-and-circus like they've been doing for years now.

everything is going according to plan still. you underestimate just how efficient this warmachine has become. the war is just a front to move massive amounts of money, guns and drugs around internationally, without having to worry about people noticing whats going on around them.

>>79473219
suits us so who gives a fuck
not very many who would need to sell their families because they already have money

>>79472892
>Slavpoop reading comprehension

Explains everything about eastern Europe dedu

>>79472892
he's right though. california is fucking rough to live in. everything from the laws, to the government reps (local and federal), to the pay, to the skyhigh rent and cost of land is fucked beyond all belief. the place is huge, broke, and holding on simply because of its cultural relevance and being home to almost all major tech corporations. california is fucking fucked. totally propped up because rich people want to live there. dont believe the beach boys propaganda.

new england is 10x comfier, like anon said

>>79473677
>n-n-no u
fucking pathetic

>>79473706
>tfw want to move to Vermont

A comfy forested state with absolutely no retarded right wingers and the loosest gun laws in the country.

>People unironically believe a multipolar system is a preferable international environment
>EUROPEANS unironically believe a multipolar system is a preferable international environment
Is this meant to be an attack on my sides?

>>79471422
>Muh Petrodollar.

>>79471422
>Russia and China are basically killing off the petrodollar worldwide by making Syria a Russian-Chinese ally in the Middle East


back to pol idiot

>>79473833
theres definitely people who lean to the right. especially out in the boonies. but they keep to themselves . the ultra rad-left morons all live in burlington, so you don't really have to deal with them too much either, unless you want to. and even the far-left douches are relatively laid back (as per everyone in vermont).

the northern part is like a bizzaro world version of west virginia. its beautiful (slightly less so than WV imo) mountains as far as you can see, but with actual infrastructure. and the government is the polar opposite of WV. honestly they could use a little less overwhelming liberalism in their government. there are very few problems (aside from opiate epidemic, but thats everywhere) and violent crime rate is extremely low, so the democrats have to create their own problems and agendas, which ends up in retarded legislation sometimes.

>>79472766
Based

>>79473329
>will have made trillions
sure, but they will lose the monopoly over the middle east oil pipeline and will lose support of syria subsequently leading to a collapse of your hegemony in the middle east which wont be not even close to a profit to your jews

>>79473962
do you know that petrodollar is actually an undeniable fact

>>79476400
if israelis get the oil under golan heights, then there will be no collapse of the us petrodollar. this could happen even if assad wins. all im saying is its much less likely than you think

>>79476462
Petrodollar is only relevant in an era of free trade, but that era is pretty much over as far as the United States is concerned.

>>79471422
>petrodollar theory
*tips tinfoil hat while watching chemtrails and rejecting vaccinations*

>>79471934
When it can't run up itself and run / help up Europe itself much longer while the last ofbaby boomers politicians just want to keep welfare and big state for the major pop of ageing society keep voting in them. Most of Europe politicians doesn't want to contribute to 2% GDP budget probably is better to spend money in food aid in 3rd world and welcoming refugees. What about Francafrique and when it goes down to French side, US, EU, Ecowas and UN have to go to save France's interests.

It was also time for European politicians wake up and look at the mess their mad by inviting non-Europeans with no sight of assimilation and infiltrated lobbies/foreign interests in your union.

First we can complain about our traitor politicians some probably bribed or threatened by other parties like USA. Then, we can complain about USA - CIA backed-up revolutions, conflicting geostrategic objectives with us,

Politicians signing UN Refugees Conventions and afterwards we can't deport them, or even coastal guard and navy of Med can stop instead they guide the refugee boats. Erdogan threatning European leaders and sovereignty. What the fuck is this?
>>79471562
>Believing the Shi'a Belt from Lebanon to Iran. Those guys don't stand a chance on the long run.
>most geopolitically important country in the middle east
kek. Literally the most important is the one that controls 2 Holy mosques, a lot of money and sit in oil reserves and make an Islamic Sunni type like combined armed forces alliances.

>>79471749
This.

>>79479095
Analyzing dollar valuation in terms of petroleum trading volume isn't crankery, but ever since the Middle Eastern wars in the 2000s, there's a tendency to overattribute the strength of the dollar entirely to oil.

Will history remember the USA for its decadence and many wars or their vast entertainment industry?

>>79473219
>>79472883
>>79472766

Gee, it's almost as if some people actually ambitious.

You DO know hat you're saying is a compliment right? When the only insult that canbe thrown is that you're evil, you know you are without flaws. Nobody gets to the top being a good person, bois.

Also, Denmark, you ain't one to be spewing moral superiority when there's a faroe islands thread right here saying otherwise.

>>79477445

Seriously, what the hell.

>>79479464
mcdonalds in 500 eyars will be like the roman ruins so people will remember them for spreading obescity

>>79471562
>you didn't lose major wars in the past decade my friend
Uh, American history since 1953

Like he said, every single year, "downfall of the USA," doesn't happen. The petrodollar isn't going to change unless Russia quite literally invades Saudi Arabia. Until then, keep daydreaming about how the world is going to get worse (only retards wish to be part of a Chinese sphere)

>>79479300
>>kek. Literally the most important is the one that controls 2 Holy mosques, a lot of money and sit in oil reserves and make an Islamic Sunni type like combined armed forces alliances.
not geopolitically my american friend in Portugal. Syria is literally the gateway of almost all Middle East nations to Europe. A pipeline to go from Saudi Arabia to Europe needs to pass through Syria

>>79482082
>The petrodollar isn't going to change unless Russia quite literally invades Saudi Arabia.
Or the Saudis get a better business proposal from China. Which is kinda already happening. Almost all countries but the Saudis are accepting oil transactions in other currencies. Some even say to create what keynes wanted to do after WW2 through the IMF XDR global currency

>>79482082
Also you need to remember the americans voted for a president that wants isolationism and not globalism

>>79472766
>The EU was created by the USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Schuman
Schuman was Luxembourg-French, not American.

We gave your federalist institutions like the ECSC and EU funding (as part of a greater plan to keep Europe non-Communist) but you're the ones who made them.

>the "migrant crisis" was created by the USA,
Funny how that starts up in ~2014, a decade after we invaded Iraq. It surely must have been us, right? Instead of Assad and the Arab Spring shitting up the region, including the French decision (by Sarkozy) to kill Gaddafi?

>the terrorist attacks are indirectly caused by the USA
Most of the terrorist attacks that happen in Europe aren't from first-generation migrants, they're from second- and third-. So now you're telling me that you let Muslims into your countries in the 1970s, fail to integrate them or secularize them, and then it's the USA's fault?

Go shred yourself in a pork processing plant. Don't take painkillers before you jump in, too.

>>79471422
Syria has barely any oil you dumb monkey eating half breed

>>79482579
yes but the countries around it all have tons of oil.

>>79482396
>that wants isolationism
>after what he did during the latest North Korea episode
Even warmongers like Bush Jr. and Obama didn't fall for NK's attention-seeking bait. Because that's what it is, attention-seeking.

>>79482658
>North Korea succesfully builds a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US
>North Korean regime is now backed by atomic bombs and now more stable than ever
>He unironically thinks is about attention-seeking and not really the fact that North Korea is boasting itself for defying the US and subsequently undermining their sphere of influence in Asia and giving more power to Russia and China
Bush Jr. and Obama didn't do anything because before North Korea didn't even have nuclear technology, this result is basically US incompetence allied to the lingering Cold War status in the region

>>79472883

Never knew Danes were this based.

>>79482827
>He unironically thinks is about attention-seeking
This is how I know this is your first North Korea incident and that you're probably like 18 years old.

NK is pretty much a toddler throwing a tantrum for food aid and coal exports from China.

ITT: Mudslime diaspora have a chimpout

>>79482954
then why is the US, South Korea, Japan so afraid of them?

>>79483020
>South Korea is afraid of North Korea
lol have you ever talked to a South Korean in your life? serious question

>>79483067
Well if they weren't afraid they wouldn't be passing harsh sanctions on North Korea and Japan wouldn't have gone on an alert when the NK ICBM passed through Japan

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>he actually thinks Assad is going to stay in power
>he actually thinks Syria as a country is going to stabilize
>he doesn't know Kurdistan will be like Israel 2.0

>>79483354
>he honestly thinks Kurdistan have power to stop Assad
m8 the kurdistan region also YPG/SDF have such low population and manpower compared to the SAA that is ridiculous. Also SDF is taking already 2 months in capturing raqqa and will probably take another month to capture it

>>79482245
Are you retarded? It can just go from Iraq to Turkey.

>>79483434
And Israel had low population and manpower when compared to Egyptian, Syrian, and Jordan forces. Amazing things can be done with just a little bit of support.

>>79483601
>Iraq
>US ally

>>79483608
>Amazing things can be done with just a little bit of support.
You mean atomic bomb and highly technological, rich and nationalistic population right?

>>79483720
You say that those things like they are negative traits.

>>79483812
they aren't, but Iraq doesn't have those, and those things aren't due to US support

>>79483861
But you just said Iraq isn't a US ally.

>>79483915
shit, I messed up, I meant Kurdistan

>>79471807
we are on the way out.
Post trump the USA will be less trustworthy.

>>79483938
Kurdistan doesn't even exist yet.

>>79483967
The funny thing is, once the United States goes pre-WW1 status, so will the rest of the world, including Poland.

>>79483977
yeah but SDF/YPG exists and you support them to get Assad out

>>79472795
>economic importance doesn't matter in the importance of a state.
subhuman midwesterners should be herded into reservations

>>79484038
Why would SDF/YPG have an atomic bomb?

>>79484109
they don't that's my point. Israel had and were able to exert influence despite being such a small country

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>>79484183
Even without a nuclear arsenal, YPG is still incredibly effective, and they only need to control and hold onto territories in northern Syria to form a state. Combine that with the Kurdistan independence referendum, and you can have a nation that can seriously develop with US backing like how Israel did.

>>79484414
2bqf I highly doubt it, because it will attract Turkey, Russia, Iraq and Syria all agaisnt the Kurdistan and the US. But meh, nobody knows really how stupid the US is nowadays, I mean it's not the seventies anymore

>>79484562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWShuIxpU0I

russia+turkey+syria = bb ypg

>>79484562
>>79484641

Turkey is probably the greatest threat to an independent Kurdistan, but if the alternative is a collapse of US economy, like how your premise states, than you better believe the US will try to make it work.

>>79484715
obviously you won't crash like FULL HAPPENING like I said in the OP, but you will also slowly lose power over the region and slowly lose your economic hegemony. Also Trump wants the US to isolate itself by ending globalization and maybe create a new economic system for the US that isn't solely printing money and China already had a public declaration that will start oil transactions by using the yuan backed by gold, Saudi Arabia said it is interested in the deal

>>79471562
>the most geopolitically important country
Explain.

>>79484886
>also Trump wants the US to isolate itself by ending globalization
>Trump
>ending globalization
LOLno. He's doing nothing but continue the usual neocon Republican foreign policies.

>>79484926
it's the oil gateway to Europe. He who controls Syria, controls the oil to Europe and Turkey

>>79484886
Trump's policies, while protectionist, aren't isolationist. There is a big difference between the two.

>>79484980
His policies literally promises so. Just because he hasn't changed things right now doesn't mean he won't do after. Also TPP, DACA tons of things that support the original status quo are slowly dying away. Status Quo changes in peace time are slow and constant

>>79484997
Since when?

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>>79485169
You can't expect to go full on protectionist and isolationist from being a world leader in less than a year m8
>>79485179
Since this became true

>>79485228
>>79485179
also the image is kinda outdated but it passes the idea

>>79485228
But he is not isolationist. Yes he is highly critical of foreign business deals, but that has always been how he barters, even before taking office. He was notorious of being overtly critical of every little detail in a business agreement to haggle down everything. The end game isn't to end trade deals, to the contrary, it's to profit more from them.

The strategy before Trump was to have these deals for more strategic purposes. Make the deals so beneficial to others, they wouldn't dare end trade with the US, guaranteeing they would not directly oppose the US.

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>>79485228
That map is laughably bad.

>>79485448
>they wouldn't dare end trade with the US, guaranteeing they would not directly oppose the US.
I don't know m8, looking at the US money and protestant work ethic standpoint your logic makes sense, but for other countries it doesn't. Hence why some countries like Mexico, Japan, Peru, Phillippines and other countries that have nothing to do with this standpoint have accepted the deal. I mean even if NAFTA survives it will have huge blow to current status quo in Mexico, since they value other things different from the US, the same for Japan and other countries. Trump is basically being American to the core, basically shoving down American culture down everyone's throats like oldschool america used to do, and that I think it's already backfiring

>>79485694
I guess only time can convince you otherwise, but people have been prophesying nothing but the end for the USA since its foundation and have always left disappointed. The US has grown stronger spite worse things than an unfriendly country in the middle east.

>>79471540
its been going on for far longer than a decade. In the 1970s people were saying the future belonged to the japanese in the same way that people gush about the chinese today

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>/int/ pseudointellectuals attempt to analyze world politics: the thread

Fuck, this thread is fedora tipping edgelordery taken to the next level

>>79485878
I honestly don't think so, your system is rotten to the core, your people lost sight what it is to be american hence why they voted Trump, basically your capitalism has reached a point where rich people basically are so unpatriotic, amoral and nihilistic that basically undermine their own country to get more rich. Your country is doomed to failure, hence also why countries with strong governments and with strong cultures are beating you in your own game

>>79485940
See that's the problem, you are looking towards ideology to dictate your logic.

>>79485987
>Seriously engaging escapee zoo apes in discourse
The jokes on you m8.

>>79486049
>he doesn't know I am an ape that escaped the zoo that is Brazil.

>>79485987
so the culture of your country is ideological? I thought it was basically protestant values applied to work and capitalism a la American Dream

>>79486317
When has that ever been true? America isn't any worse now than it was in the past.

>>79485940
>our people lost sight what it is to be american hence why they voted Trump

Please tell me how Hillary or any other candidate would have embodied American values. Enlighten us.

>>79486479
m8, your whole country is basically "work hard and be free do whatever you want with your money"
>>79486521
I am actually agreeing that Trump is literally the embodiment of those values my friend

>Let me tell about your country

Why is the third world even allowed to exist?

>>79486608
You can always ignore the thread my friend :)

>>79486608

Brazilian communists are more worried about USA than their own country. Why are you impressed?

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>>79486630
And you could always evolve past chimphood but it seems that neither of us will get what we want today.

>>79486698
I find it funny that a chimp can actually speak more languages than a supposed "human"

>>79486670

>be Brazil
>more than 10 years with communists in power
>high corruption
>high criminality
>unequality didn't dropped
>Brazilian communists only care about progressive agenda, genders and homossexuals
>OP is worried about USA

>>79471422
>petrodollar
The whole petrodollar bullshit has been addressed so many times, that it's not even funny.

First thing first. A common currency will always be necessary, and gold is never making a comeback.

The biggest exporters of oil are US aligned, with SA, Canada, Mexico, Emirates, Kuwait, Iraq and the USA itself making some of the biggest exporters. Syria isn't about to make a dent in there.

OPEC is also led by the Arabian states. Which are all US aligned except Yemen (but who cares about yemen.)

The other thing is that not only oil is sold in dollars, but basically everything else.

And the last nail in the coffin is that the biggest holders and buyers of US dollars are east asian nations like Japan and China who accumulate obscene amounts of dollars to devaluate their currency, making their export oriented economies have advantage in the world stage.

You are a fucking moron. The US dollar won a long time ago.

>>79486670
Are there a lot of gommies in Brazil?

>>79486670
>>79486789

The worst thing Amerisharters are so dumb they will bait this irrelevant commie cumming with Russian and Chinese dicks

>>79486831

Nowadays? No fucking way.

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>>79472766
>the terrorists attacks are indirectly caused by the USA

and then Europeans claim not to be biased and intrinsically anti-american.

>>79486716
Yes, screeching and shit flinging are two very rich and deeply storied idioms of expression.

>>79486799
>The biggest exporters of oil are US aligned, with SA, Canada, Mexico, Emirates, Kuwait, Iraq
Yes, but the "Axis of Evil" aren't also Iraq isn't pro-US nowadays
>OPEC is also led by the Arabian states. Which are all US aligned except Yemen (but who cares about yemen.)
Wrong, OPEC sure is led by the Saudis, but most of the OPEC countries are defying this logic nowadays. Some have begin to accept other currencies for transactions
>The other thing is that not only oil is sold in dollars, but basically everything else.
Yes, you are right, but the tendency is toward the destruction of this pattern, Russia has already started transactions with the ruble and China is pushing for the yuan backed by gold. Also the Syria oil Pipeline in the middle east which is obviously going to be backed by Iran and Russia since Assad is going to stay put even bigger presure to the dollar in this case. Also China is the biggest importer of commodities worldwide, and the tendency is for them to get even more power due to their growth

>>79476400
>Syria
You keep bringing this piece of shit, war torn nation over and over again.

Syria is done. They will be repairing their country for the next two decades.

The kings of the middle east is the arabian states. SA, Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait. Oh, and Israel. Which are all American aligned.
The US will continue to have a military presence and thus a pro-american government in Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The middleeast is being dominated by the US so much that it's not even funny.

You think Iran and a few war torn nations matter?
Please.

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>>79486920
Ah good knowing English is shit :)

>>79486975

Aren't you proud of Brazil, communist? Why aren't you worried about Brazil? Why are you worried about Russia, China and USA?

>>79486975
They have to be whether they like it or not.
We have a serious military presence in the area.

>>79486994
The kings of the middle east have to rely on transatlantic ships to transport oil to Europe, while Russia and Iran won't need it anymore because of the pipeline through Syria
>>79487028
That military presence didn't help you overthrown Assad tho

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>>79486920
>screeching and shit flinging are two very rich and deeply storied idioms of expression.

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>>79486975
Yeah, who cares when most of the production is done by 4 or 5 of them. with not one of them thinking about switching currency, except maybe by Iran which is outproduced by about 3 times as much by SA

>>79487028
>>79487105

Come on, don't reply to this thread. This autist think he is Russian, Chinese or something. He is frustrated because communists turn Brazil into an irrelevant country.

>>79487127
Iraq is also on Russia side my friend, hence why ISIS tried too to overthrow the Iraq regime. Iraq, Iran and Venezuela are basically on Russia side. OPEC is basically split

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>>79486975
Another thing is that the Rubble is worthless as it's not backed by a strong economic giant, and China has it's hands all over the yuan.

The Yuan will never reach a significant share of use if the Communist party keeps it in a leash.

The Australian dollar is a bigger threat to the US dollar than the Yuan so far.

>>79487082
Right, and you think Syria is gonna become a major economic power because of a pipeline?
How did that work for Panama and Egypt? they have a fair share of global exports crossing their shores everyday. Does that change anything? No.
Still poor, still irrelevant. Even more when the it's just a pipeline, as no sailors will stop or anything to give local markets a boost.

The syrians will literally just maintain a pipeline to transport the oil that others have sold and produced.

>>79486975
>The Brazilian communist
Haven't seen you recently. Vacation?

>>79487255
That happens not because of the trust in the US dollar, but basically because almost all transactions are made in US dollar, because the US basically made (forced) deals with commodity holders or global exporter like Japan, Saudi Arabia, Chile, the EU and others to have all transactions in USD, fueling the printing money economy of the USA
>>79487330
Are you stupid, I never said that. I've said that Iran/Iraq will now have access to the European market basically undermining Saudi and the US oil presence in the entire region and globe. Which will probably lead to the collapse of the petrodollar

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american can't say shit about other countries right now, just look at your mongrelized population of mulatto niggers. In a few years you will be crypto-jew slaves. Flail your circumcised dick all you want you burgerstein freak; soon you'll all be finished.

>>79487446
And how do you propose that that's gonna happen?
SA can outproduce and undercut all those states as they have done before.

Venezuela collapsed due to SA overproduction, and the dip in oil prices.

You think two countries Iraq/Iran whom together do not outproduce SA will all of a sudden surpass it?

Could it undermine SA? sure. Those countries will still struggle to outproduce SA.

Will it lead to the collapse of the petrodollar?
You know that OPEC is not the world right?
The Biggest producers of Oil are still trading in Dollars and will continue to do so.

Out of the top 20 producing nations, I can only see about 5(optimistic) that would switch.

>>79487446
Aso, The US currency is the most stable investment in the world. Entire countries buy it like it was food.

They wouldn't do this if it wasn't trusted. The US dollar is now worth more than Euros and the pound is coming to parity to soon.

The dollar is strong. Way to strong. The Reserve is actually trying to stop it.

>>79487495
Circumcision has actually gone down. Probably due to hispanics and other americans simply thinking that it's not appropriate any longer.

The Israelis are slowly losing trust in America. It's mostly old white republicans that have this irrational love for israel.

So, mongrelization or whatever you call it, it's actually making us less of a "crypto-jew slaves" and circumcision is decreasing every year.

>>79488022
>Responding to literal Africans

Ignore Italonigs pls.

>>79487946
>Those countries will still struggle to outproduce SA.
Yes, you are right once again. But still you are forgetting the biggest oil importer of the world is China not the US. China will get stronger and stronger if nothing happens, and I think soon this Saudi Arabia loyalty could be bought by other party like China. And the tendency is for that to happen. Your loss at Syria is crucial since it will undermine Saudi Arabia business for Iran/Iraq ones and the future pipeline will make their oil more reliable than the Saudi's. China/Russia are basically creating a whole network of influence globally and your efforts are being really fruitless. To the point they are basically proposing oil transactions with the RMB backed by gold
>Aso, The US currency is the most stable investment in the world. Entire countries buy it like it was food.
Its trust is artificial due to your the same motive you just said in our above quote. Sure you are right. But what I am talking about is the future tedency

>>79488166
if and only if, by the time, that China has such a geopolitical footprint in the region that SA dropped america, the protector of the seas and their oil exports, and decided to side with China.
Oil will have lost a lot of it's influence over the world.

In a 100 years, Oil will not be as important to the world as it was once. Other methods of energy production are quickly surpassing it. Natural gas and the green energy being major causes.

China plans to phase out fossil fueled cars by around the 2030s. Whatever advantage the Future china could gain by aligning with SA, it will be meager.

A totally different world, that I nor you can't predict. You can dream of the US losing power, and relatively it will, but the US and the dollar aren't about to collapse and seriously doubt that they will.

This isn't 500AD, it's rare for countries to collapse. They merely wane in power. The US having the third largest population, and a magnificent geological location insures the strength of the US. only a Globally catastrophic event would lead to US collapse.

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>>79488022
>American defending and EVEN supporting jamal and Pablo
Oh wow you really are cucks, bet your kids will look like monkeys

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>>79488137
You're the 56% white here not me.

>>79488505
>point out shit points and illogical arguments
>be proven wrong
>BuT, MuhH CHIIIII
>56%
>YuRo MasTEr Raace

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>>79488586
I just have to turn on the the TV to witness the degeneracy that is slowly taking place is Weimar/America, just look at Berkeley, Antifa, BLM, we don't have this shit in Italy. On the other hand YOUR statements are lacking sources

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>>79488022
I am talking about the fact that All the main news channels, journals and practically all Hollywood are controlled by jews; you even kept licking Israel's balls after they Literally sunk down the USS Liberty

>>79488422
>Natural gas and the green energy being major causes.
>China plans to phase out fossil fueled cars by around the 2030s.
oh please, are you a shill? this doesn't even make sense my friend. Oil is not just for fuel, it is the basis of basically almost all consumer goods, including fuel. Cars being powered by electric or other shit doesn't matter, the world will still be oil dependant until 2030 and probably until we find either a cheap replacement or settle down for an expensive one

>>79471749
This.

Fuck those hypocrites

>>79488704
>cirmcucision
http://healthland.time.com/2013/08/22/explaining-the-drop-in-circumcision-rates/
>Israeli support
There is a lot. It's obvious that democratic leaders are not as fond of Israel and calls have been made to reduce or stop Israeli military funding.
This is a gradual thing. But it started a while ago.

>Berkeley
They have always been like this. Since the vietnam era, and probably before that, Berkeley has had a reputation of activism and protesting.

>Antifa
Violent counter protests? Communists/Socialists?
This is a European invention.
>According to The Economist, the "word Antifa has its roots in Anti-Fascist Action, a name taken up by European political movements in the 1930s" which was revived in the 1990s, particularly in Germany.[20][21] Peter Beinart writes that "in the late ’80s, left-wing punk fans in the United States began following suit, though they initially called their groups Anti-Racist Action, on the theory that Americans would be more familiar with fighting racism than fascism."

>BLM
Again, the civil rights era was much worse. BLM has lost it's fire already. I rarely hear about them.

You most definitely have communist protests, and Antifa is present in Germany and other regions of Europe. Where it was born.

News about your irrelevant smelly boot simply don't reach the world, because NOBODY cares.

>>79488861
I'm not saying that Oil will stop being relevant in 2030. I'm saying that major steps are already being taken to phase out oil.

Obviously, it'll still be used for other petroleum derived products. But my point is that Oil will lose importance with time.

By the time that China surpasses the US economy (nominal), or that it gains enough political and military strength to be a much more fitting partner for Saudi Arabia, Oil will have ceased to be such an important product as it is today.

>>79471934
Im pretty sure Europe can beat Russia a couple times over.

The EU alone has 510 million people (incl Britbongs).

>>79489023
Sensed arguments presented with actual facts; i apologize and retrect what i said, goodspeed american

>>79471489
Story of my life.

>>79489182
did not read the last part, fuck you.

>>79471422
>>mfw Russia and China are basically killing off the petrodollar worldwide by making Syria a Russian-Chinese ally in the Middle East

The Petrodollar is buoyed by Saudi Arabia, not Syria.

>>79489581
lel

>>79472682

Because your graph is too short, that's not growth, that's minimal recovery from the economic collapse that preceded the graph.

>>79485171
>His policies literally promises so

Good thing the word promise has no reality in Trumps rule.

>>79472025
This.

>>79485930
Japan's population is like 1/3 of the US so to match the US economy it would need 3 times gdp per capita which is impossible.

China has like 4 times the population for the US so if its gdp per capita becomes even half that of the US it becomes much more powerful

>>79485171
>TPP
Status Quo?
The TPP sought to change trade policies between the pacific nations. Not maintain it.

>DACA
This is Status Quo, and trump is going to protect it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/us/politics/trump-daca-dreamers.html

>>79471562
Syria is not the most important country in the ME, furthermore it was never friendly with the US and was closely aligned with the USSR and then the Russian federation.

You are a fucking retard.

>>79471949
Not this petrodollar retardiness.

You can buy oil in any currency, the sellers of oil want dollars. You can pay in whatever currency you want but they will want more. It is the same reason if you worked you would want to be paid in reis and not McDonalds Gift cards or Venezuelan dollars although both can be exchanged for Brazilian currency.

Fucking seriously here is the logic of you idiots

1. Some country takes a payment for oil in currency other than USD

2. ???

3. USA collapses

>>79489890
>>79490025
>>79490100
read the fucking thread my friend

>>79490133
I did it is cringeworthy in how stupid it is. A bunch of 4chan neets arguing their ignorance.

The only people who take petrodollar seriously are retards. It is common in conspiracy forums and nowhere else. You wont find an economist or anyone with a college education that takes the idea seriously.

It is gay frog level stupidiness. I actually agree the USA sucks and a lot of the criticism of the US in the discussion is valid, but petrodollars are irrelevant as is Syria. US will be fine although we deserve some consequences for our stupid actions we will continue to not get them and not learn. That is the beauty and curse of America.

If anyone is going to collapse it is actually Russia. Corrupt backward country in decline. Nobody even gives a fuck about petro anymore that is why prices are so low. In another 20 years it will be worth its weight in coal.

Only redeeming thing about US is that it is better than Brazil and Russia.

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>>79490288
>The only people who take petrodollar seriously are retards. It is common in conspiracy forums and nowhere else. You wont find an economist or anyone with a college education that takes the idea seriously.
>It is gay frog level stupidiness. I actually agree the USA sucks and a lot of the criticism of the US in the discussion is valid, but petrodollars are irrelevant as is Syria. US will be fine although we deserve some consequences for our stupid actions we will continue to not get them and not learn. That is the beauty and curse of America.
>If anyone is going to collapse it is actually Russia. Corrupt backward country in decline. Nobody even gives a fuck about petro anymore that is why prices are so low. In another 20 years it will be worth its weight in coal.
thanks for your really smart input

>>79490421
As simple as it is, compared to your autistic screeching it is an academic thesis.

I actually have to give you credit. I havent even heard anyone bring up petrodollars in 3-4 years. I thought that meme died when the price of oil collapsed, autistics like yourself screeched about it circa 2006, it lost steam by 2008.

And seriously I though Americans were ignorant of geopolitics but if all Brazilians are as stupid as you then Brasil is truly a sad place. Where you trolling or do you really think Syria is the most important country in the ME? Did you not know Syria and the US have not liked each for decades? What are you 12?

Get with the times faggot.

>>79490421
It's true though.

The petrodollar conspiracy is shit, and makes zero economic sense.

Russia's GPD is smaller than South korea a nation with half the population.

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>>79490525
>>79490544
keep going your clearly know what you are talking about!

>>79490587
muh petrodollars.

You know what you need to come off as credible, another picture of someone laughing. Look here is someone laughing so

>>muh petrodollars

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>>79490628
yes spam more, quote me more and more importantly meme more, keep the good work my friend! Don't forget that you can always spam or meme something to death to make it true

>>79490682
Is this the moment where a communist finds out his own ignorance and stupidity, so it loses all hope and confidence in his intelligence?
Drowned in his own ignorance, he decides to meme and meme, to hide his own insecurities and ignorance?
Well played.

>A thread about Russia/China.
>Not a single post from either countries in this thread.

Where are you Russians/Chinks?

>>79490759
Yes clearly that's the case!

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>>79488551
You're the 100% Tunisian though

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>>79490784
Don't worry. Find solace in that communism is a disease and no nation is bound to prosper under it.
Authoritative systems and failure to even feed its people will be its legacy.

The Cancer of the world put down by Capitalism and the American system!!!!!

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>>79490682
>>while we are on 2006 memes

What you should be worried about those is Samba Reis. Argentina is now going to pay Samba dancers in Argentinian peso. Economy of Brasil is about to collapse. A preisdent was already impeached and the economy is in the gutter because Samba dancers now can be paid in peso.

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>>79490421
>thanks for your really smart input
nice argument

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>>79491648
>>79490759
>>79490628
>>79490544
>>79490525
>>79490288
>>79490100
why are you feeding the troll?

The US will fall one day. It's inevitable. Just like the Roman empire. Also factor in that you cannot sustain 1st world standards when you import the 3rd world.

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>>79492101
But we don't even import that many Canadians though...

>>79492101
Out hegemony might fade away but we won't collapse. People think that if we lose our aircraft carriers we'll turn into Somalia. Did that happen to the British, Dutch, or Portuguese? We'll still be pretty well off even if China overtakes us.

>>79492203
LEL

>>79484020
why?

>>79492101
Buddy parts of the midwest are thirdworld tier with rampaging opioid epidemics, bad job prospects and actively ignorant people.

>>79492989
The midwest has always been like that.

>>79493004
used to be less opioid and more pro union.
What the fuck is "Right to work" anyway?

>>79471422
>multipolar world
I want to know more
>>79471540
Kinda this

The Syrian oil didn't stop us before airstrikes blew up the derricks, what makes you think it will now?

>>79493107
>EU is soft power and something more cunts aspire to.
>PeeRoC wants to larp about as superpower and threaten it's neighbors
>neighbors band together to keep PRC in check

>>79493107
it is unironically the objective of the BRIC

When the USA collapses it will go full fascist and become 10x better than it was at its peak

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>>79492203
>>79492581

>>79472766
>"migrant crisis" was created by the USA
You guys fucked up africa, that is on you, not to mention places like india where shitters migrant from

>>79493169
B and R will never be superpowers, the latter ever again.

>>79493213
love this image

>>79471889
Thnx

We're living in the best period of human history. It must be protected.

>>79471422
as long as the Saudi support the petrodollar with all their might, it doesn't fear anything

>>79493213
Great pic. Love it!

>>79493383
Keep in mind it was really a Saudi Splinter group that caused 9/11.

Osama Bin Laden was a turbo Saudi

But we didn't do anything to them - that we know of

>>79493451
israel did 911 retard

>>79489858
China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US, and in the future Europe if they ever get the Silk Road project completed.

The chinese are poor spenders in general and can't alone keep up a healthy economy.

The Chinese millionaires and billionaires do everything they can to get their money out of China.

China also have a very unbalanced age demographic caused by their one child policy, this has huge effects on the average domestic spending since old people on average spend less than those from age 25 to 50, China will suffer from this.
The US in comparison has the most evenly distributed age demographic in the western world, which even the baby boomers won't affect much.

The US is also the biggest closed market in the world and have never been affected by a foreign financial crisis,and is the reason why people flee to the dollar whenever some country/region struggles financially, the same can not be said the other way around for China.


USA is the most independent country financially and resource-wise on this globe, no other country can even come close.
Those that think China can ever dethrone the US and take over fail to see how independent the US is, and how dependent China is for other markets to do good for themselves to do good. Just look at the insane loans China gave the US to keep them afloat during the last financial crisis in the US.


You would need an almost complete destruction of this world to make the US step down

>>79493260
Individually no
together sure
India and china are frenemies now and brazil and russia are sliding into irrelevance.

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>>79493659
>China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US and in the future Europe if they ever get the Silk Road project completed.

Please stop posting.

Please never post again.

I'm not a Sinoboo, but an Economics Postgrad and i'll tell you that only an absolute turbocharged retard (or a European) would post that nonsense as if it we're still in the 90s.

>China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US
...Is this what they actually teach in the third world?

>>79493451
Yybbh

>>79493723
>.Is this what they actually teach in the third world?

do tell me what great things they have domestically then, you fucking retard

>>79490100
Funny, Gaddafi wanted to sell oil for gold and the ultimate plan to have African Dinar for the whole continent.
I wonder what happened to that plan?
Oh yea...

>>79490760
Planning Russo-China world conquest.

>>79493767
This.

Tell us what you think.

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>>79493767
>Do my legwork for me as I'm am completely ignorant of 21st century international trade and economic balances yet speak authoritatively on the matter and I'm also a nigger who understands not what Burden of Proof is.
>Chinese economy was what /pol/ told me

I don't talk to the brain damaged so fuck off back to your assisted living facility.

>China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US
There are people in this world who literally, actually, and without any whit of jest or doubt, fully hold this statement as divine truth, and they are here and now among us.

>>79493770
Imagine how well that would have worked. I actually miss Qaddafi

>>79493770
People also drank coca cola, clearly because people were drinking coke and Libya was bombed they are related.

North Korea tested a nuke and you are a faggot clearly North Korea tested the nuke due to your faggotry. Cant argue with that logic.

retard.

>>79493862
>tell me I'm wrong

>doesn't feel like to bring proofs to prove that I'm wrong, although challenged
>something something "back to /pol/

>weirdly post a Hitler image

>keeps throwing insults

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>>79493965
>post a statement without providing absolutely any proof substantiating it
>In a supremely Russian manner, go berserk when confronted for posting your preposterous nonsense
>Repeatedly evade your intellectual responsibility in this discussion like a European male evades hetereosexuality.

Often one wonders why there are no European universities in the global top 10 apart from Oxbrigde, but then soon enough, a European opens their mouth and opines on a technical matter, and instantly relieves all doubt as to the quality of European higher education.

>China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US
Someone actually said this, in 2017 of all years.

>>79493965
While I don't agree with his hyper aggressive attack on you and think he's a faggot, he does have a point. You really didn't have much in the way of proof in your original post and just speculated wildly.

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>>79494042
>american universities

http://college.usatoday.com/2017/04/04/this-teen-wrote-blacklivesmatter-over-and-over-on-his-stanford-application-and-got-in/

>>79494085
Stop being sympathetic with that retard. How can anyone say anything as gobsmackingly mentally deranged as "China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US" and then try to pull a "No U" when asked for proof?

>>79494093
>Mexico

This thread does need a shitskin presence so I won't complain.

>>79494093
>undergrad students
>mattering in any way whatsoever in terms of what makes a uni good.

>>79494117
especially as China is one of the largest trade partners to the EU which has a comparable economy to the US.

>>79494154
He's Mexican. Let me repeat, he's Mexican. Why would you ever entertain his opinion on the matter of elite academic institutions? Is there any conceivable reason why one would do this?

>>79494186
met pretty good mexican students.
Basically kids that come to the US for grad studies are extremely serious and driven individuals

>>79494171
Thank you. I can point exactly to the wealth of statistics showing the composition of China's present economy, but I'm strongly interested in seeing where someone read or heard anything to the effect of "China's GDP is solely based on exports of goods to the US", it's the absolute least he could provide us with and it's all we ask of him. The Norwegian idiot has been curiously silent for the last few posts though.

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>>79494138

>>79490870

>memes over facts

>>79494318
Tell him whitey.

>>79494236
China is increasingly taking over the key industries of the world. The US will remain rich but China is going to surpass the US economically. The average American will be richer than the average Chinese but China will be bigger

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>>79494186
>>79494154
>>79494138
>>79494294
>ameridumbs are sperging this hard

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>>79494424
This. Amerigringordos should follow Mexico's example and stop being so asshurt.

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>>79494333

>>79494492
le 56% meme is the best thing on /int/

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>>79494479
>solving issues like real men scares the sissy wh*teboy

No wonder you get cucked so hard on a daily basis

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>>79494479
>filename

>>79471422
Kingdoms rise and kingdoms fall I guess

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>>79494492
Says the subhuman Argentinian

>>79493905
Yea funny how Gaddafi was not much of a problem when the country was being rebuilt but when he suddenly comes up with a plan that could've shocked world economy quite well then he suddenly is a problem that needs to go.
Then there's Benghazi incident and now all of sudden people want democracy there. Fancy that.

And to top the whole thing huge majority of African "refugees" come through Libya because its an opportune place for human traffickers. Just as Gaddafis prophecy told us.

Thank you France and USA.

>>79494710
Funny how you were a fag and it shocked the world economy and Gaddafi needed to go. See you cant deny that proof.

take the evidence

1) you are a fag

2) things happened while you were a fag

3) I claim it was shocking and a big deal

therefore you faggotry is responsible for whatever I say it is.

checkmate

The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Hillary.

>>79494171
I guess it's good that the EU is such a young and vibrant consumer market then lmao

>>79495219
>china doesn't trade with any other nations at all. It's not the biggest trade partner with countries like india, a ton of african countries and places with high growth potential in the future.

>>79494679
UMADELICIA

>>79471807
It will happen a lot sooner than you think, my cute little Polish friend.

>>79495219
First there was the Norwegian dumbfuck and now there's you.