Why are Southeast Asians sooo fucking stupid?

>>79289602
Abo genes

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we sold our collective intelligence for this dubs

>>79289602
Why are US Indians so smart but Indian Indians dumb?

>>79289709
The ones that can afford to immigrate are the intelligent ones. Same with Chinese.

>>79289677
nice dubs

>>79289781
the chinese were laborers, it is not the same

>>79289921
I doubt the majority of Chinese in the US today are descended from railroad laborers.

>>79290058
there are a lot of low wage new wave migrants in chinese resturants that speaks no english

they must come from somewhere

>>79289781
Maybe. But I assume it's the same with all of South Asia. I think they just have a good work ethic in education but they're poor as shit back home and have a poor education system.

>mainland China
>IQ 105
nobody believes this

>>79289602
Filipinos are retarded because of catholicism, I'd like to think

>>79289677
Good job

>Who is the most smartest country in Latin America

oh.. i see

>>79293500
Except PISA tests show that to be very close to reality. The latest tests were from the provinces of 300 million people.

Chinese are definitely smarter than your average Lao nigger or Pinoy.

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>>79293609
>an exam
they cheat on everything
every single year they get caught in massive cheating scandals across the entire country
chinese officials use fucking drones to try to catch cheating
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-exam/chinese-exam-authorities-use-facial-recognition-drones-to-catch-cheats-idUSKBN18Z150

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>>79293659
>they cheat on everything
Whenever an American or European wins an Olympic gold medal, we cheer them as heroes. When a Chinese does, the first reflex seems to be that they must have been doping; or if that’s taking it too far, that it must have been the result of inhumane training.

There seem to be parallels to this in education. Only hours after results from the latest PISA assessment showed Shanghai’s school system leading the field, Time magazine concluded the Chinese must have been cheating. They didn't bother to read the PISA 2012 Technical Background Annex, which shows there was no cheating, whatsoever, involved. Nor did they speak with the experts who had drawn the samples or with the international auditors who had carefully reviewed and validated the sample for Shanghai and those of other countries.

Others were quick to suggest that resident internal migrants might not be covered by Shanghai’s PISA sample, because years ago those migrants wouldn't have had access to Shanghai’s schools. But, like many things in China, that has long changed and, as described by PISA, resident migrants were covered by the PISA samples in exactly the way they are covered in other countries and education systems. Still, it seems to be easier to cling to old stereotypes than keep up with changes on the ground (or to read the PISA report).

>>79293659
>muh cheating

The PISA tests are administered by foreigners who test 20-30,000 people at a time. It's not some test where a few cheaters can affect the average score you fucking /pol/nigger.

>>79293659
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/college-cheating-act/
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/how-sophisticated-test-scams-from-china-are-making-their-way-into-the-us/474474/

oh look, they cheated on PISA:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/12/15/did-shanghai-cheat-on-pisa/
https://www.brookings.edu/research/lessons-from-the-pisa-shanghai-controversy/
https://www.brookings.edu/research/attention-oecd-pisa-your-silence-on-china-is-wrong/

>>79293738
True, like other emerging economies, Shanghai is still building its education system and not every 15-year-old makes it yet to high school. As a result of this and other factors, the PISA 2012 sample covers only 79% of the 15-year-olds in Shanghai. But that is far from unique. Even the United States, the country with the longest track record of universal high-school education, covered less than 90% of its 15-year-olds in PISA - and it didn't include Puerto Rico in its PISA sample, a territory that is unlikely to have pulled up U.S. average performance.

International comparisons are never easy and they are never perfect. But anyone who takes a serious look at the facts and figures will concede that the samples used for PISA result in robust and internationally comparable data. They have been carefully designed and validated to be fit for purpose in collaboration with the world’s leading experts, and the tests are administered under strict and internationally comparable conditions. Anyone who really wants to find out can review the underlying data.

>>79293740
>>79293738
>literally cheated on PISA
>THEY COULDN'T HAVE CHEATED REEEE
>>79293738

>>79293780
Short of arguments about methodology, some people turn to dismissing Shanghai’s strong performance by saying that Shanghai’s students are only good on the kind of tasks that are easy to teach and easy to test, and that those things are losing in relevance because they are also the kind of things that are easy to digitise, automate and outsource. But while the latter is true, the former is not. Consider this: Only 2% of American 15-year-olds and 3% of European ones reach the highest level of math performance in PISA, demonstrating that they can conceptualise, generalise and use math based on their investigations and apply their knowledge in novel contexts. In Shanghai it is over 30%. Educators in Shanghai have simply understood that the world economy will pay an ever-rising premium on excellence and no longer value people for what they know, but for what they can do with what they know.

PISA didn't just test what 15-year-olds know in mathematics, it also asked them what they believe makes them succeed. In many countries, students were quick to blame everyone but themselves: More than three-quarters of the students in France, an average performer on the PISA test, said the course material was simply too hard, two-thirds said the teacher did not get students interested in the material, and half said their teacher did not explain the concepts well or they were just unlucky. The results are very different for Shanghai. Students there believe they will succeed if they try hard and they trust their teachers to help them succeed. That tells us a lot about school education. And guess which of these two countries keeps improving and which is not? The fact that students in some countries consistently believe that achievement is mainly a product of hard work, rather than inherited intelligence, suggests that education and its social context can make a difference in instilling the values that foster success in education.

>>79293797
2016 results are not 2013 you dumb fucking /pol/nigger.

A few cheaters cannot change the average score of 30,000 test takers.

>>79293829
And even those who claim that the relative standing of countries in PISA mainly reflects social and cultural factors must concede that educational improvement is possible: In mathematics, countries like Brazil, Turkey, Mexico or Tunisia rose from the bottom; Italy, Portugal and the Russian Federation have advanced to the average of the industrialised world or close to it; Germany and Poland rose from average to good, and Shanghai and Singapore have moved from good to great. Indeed, of the 65 participating countries, 45 saw improvement in at least one subject area. These countries didn't change their culture, or the composition of their population, nor did they fire their teachers. They changed their education policies and practices. Learning from these countries should be our focus. We will be cheating ourselves and the children in our schools if we miss that chance.

International comparisons are never easy and they aren’t perfect. But PISA shows what is possible in education, it takes away excuses from those who are complacent, and it helps countries see themselves in the mirror of the educational results and educational opportunities delivered by the world’s leaders in education. The world has become indifferent to tradition and past reputations, unforgiving of frailty and ignorant of custom or practice. Success will go to those individuals, institutions and countries which are swift to adapt, slow to complain and open to change. And the task for governments is to help citizens rise to this challenge. PISA can help to make that happen.

>>79293780
>>79293738
>>79293829
literally quoting chinese propaganda
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/832869.shtml

>>79293871
>chinese propaganda
By Andreas Schleicher, a German national who is the Director for Education and Skills deparment of the OECD, how can that be Chinese propaganda? I mean China is not even part of the OECD

>>79293948
https://www.brookings.edu/research/pisas-china-problem-continues-a-response-to-schleicher-zhang-and-tucker/

>>79289677
Well done

>>79294049
Genetics and IQ are related, but they're not 1:1 correlated. Nutritional deficiencies like a lack of iodine and quality of early age education (especially critical thinking education) have a pretty significant effect as well. Black people in America are definitely going to be smarter than Africans at least because they have enough food to eat and generally learn to read when they're young.

>>79293871
PISA is an American-led education group.
Not Chinese propaganda.

>>79293659
>muh cheating

everytime

>>79294056
So? Unlike you I have followed the (basically) American (i.e. provincial) PISA debate after the results for 2012 were released. That (American) debate started in May 2014, when a group of US-based scholars wrote an open letter in English in the Guardian and Wall Street newspapers to Andreas Schleicher "criticizing" PISA, they claimed that because of PISA, the OECD because of PISA has promoted standarized testing, short term solutions to education in order to scale up the PISA ranks etc. but actually the OECD has never made such claims, of course you'll know all of these if you were to read the actual PISA reports or download the databases and make analysis by your own, and by the way the PISA reports don't even give that much importance to the rankings out of the more or less-400-600 pages of every report they dedicate around 20 to talk specifically of the rankings

There have been cases in which the OECD and the PISA Consortium had to remove data because of "technical anomalies" or because the data did not meet the OECD technical standards (and therefore the results were not representative of the "PISA Target Population" which is defined as "students aged between 15 years and 3 (complete) months and 16 years and 2 (complete) months at the beginning of the assessment period, plus or minus a 1 month allowable variation, and who were enrolled in an educational institution with grade 7 or higher, regardless of the grade level or type of institution in which they were enrolled, and regardless of whether they were in full time or part-time education")

So, even though some countries have participated in PISA asessments, some of them cannot compare all their PISA results over time (again, because they didn't meet the strict PISA technical standards and the sample of students was not representative of the PISA Target Population)

Unironically this has never been the case for China (or any other East Asian country/eonomy for that matter)

>>79295577
If you're interested, those countries are:

In PISA 2000: Austria, The Netherlands, Luxembourg and the United Kingdom
In PISA 2003: United Kingdom (again)
In PISA 2006: United States (reading literacy scores only)
In PISA 2009: Austria (again)
In PISA 2015: Argentina (except for CABA), Malaysia and Kazakhstan

based pisacano

hunam vs monkey

waht a wonderful day when monkey learn human language
21c

PISA beaner has mental problems.

>>79289602
Cambodia will rise

>>79299160
I literally have a lot of family members diagnosed with bipolar disorder and depression, I don't know what that has anything to do with the posts though

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>IQ tests

>>79302452
See >>79302410

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>>79289677
East Asians BTFO

>>79293656
Southeast Asians aren't stupid. Singapore is in Southeast Asia but the people there are very smart.

>>79305831
lol

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>>79289602
>tfw too smart for this country
We should import more chinks and jews

>>79305831
But it's like 70% Chinese

>>79306253
So what? I thought Chinese cheated on their tests. And there is more to IQ than just genetics.

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>>79305831
>Singaporeans
>smart
Hmmm

>IQ

>>79289677
nice

>>79289602
Too lazy and hot to bother about IQ tests. NEXT QUESTION PLEASE!!!