Vyborg, Russia

>>79234838
its shit
nothing good

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>>79234838
are pekkas still anal blasted by the loss ?

>>79234872
Because you ruined it.

>>79234838
Make Vyborg Swedish again

>>79234970
in the other hand it doesn't look like kaliningrad

>>79234970
we built it soviets ruined it fuck off sw*De
>>79235026
it looks even worse

>>79235103
It was built by Swedish crusaders

>>79235136
it wasn't
it was village when we took it

>>79235166
It was built by Torgils Knutsson in 1293.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viborg,_Ryssland#/media/File:Suecia_3-122_;_Viborg_1709.jpg

Looked pretty beautiful during the Swedish Empire era desu

>>79235201
Swedes build a castle, but comfy town which ruins we still can see there was build mostly by russian empire.

>>79235369
>tfw s*viets destroyed comfiness

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>>79235369
using finnish architects that took typical russian imperial buildings as example

My grandfather borned 50km East from that.
He fighted and lost his hand on bombardment in Island Teikarsaari 24km to sea from Vyporg, still fighted and killed over 25 commies. Swimmed in only one handed over 2 kilometers to land, survived and reproduced.

>>79234838
Viipuri*

>>79235768
Viborg

>>79235900
Vii-pu-ri

>>79235686
Are you reproducing too?

>>79235975
Vi bork

>>79235007
>Vyborg

Did you mean to type Viborg, fellow Carolean?

>>79236063
yes, would be shame to loose these genes
>>79236066
Vii pu ri

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>>79235900
Viborg i on my pic

and that >>79234838 is Viipuri obviously.

pidorussians are not able to build anything pleasant

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Bыбopг on the left, Viipuri on the right.

>>79234838
Looks intensely comfy.

>>79236216
t. Borat Suomalainen

>>79236216
me on the left :^)

>>79236182
but we built viipuri

>>79236182
The thing is most of Vyborg was built during Russian empire and Sweden so finns just accidentially gained by the will of russian ruller. So similar to Crimea and ukrainians.

>>79236216
post more pidoborg

>>79235768
That's retarded.

Vijburg

>>79236285
You think they sended russian architect and builders another side of russia?
We were autonomy boi.

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>>79236270
>>79236285
you are not able even to sustain properly those comfy buildings you haven't built, the same story with Konigsberg also.

>>79236408
finnish architects were russian

>>79236442
But not genetically or mentally.
Its quite funny russians are still like 30% Finnics doupt we got none russian blood.

>>79236427
>Konigsberg
Was bombed into pulp by brits and yanks long before russki mir get here.

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>This confuses and enrages the Scandinavian

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>>79236320
you are welcome.
that's literally what russians did with Viipori.
real pic from Viborg.

>>79236565
pls delete

>>79236490
>Its quite funny russians are still like 30% Finnics
only bydlo ones

>>79236490
>30% Finnics
Because we assimilate finno-ugric tribes in central and north russian, not because Pekkas rapes our grandmothers, though.

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>>79236550
fucking brits and yanks, look what they did to Konigsberg!

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>>79235201
>son of a Cunt
No wonder he was liberated

>>79236427
Vyborg was russian for centuries when Koenigsberg only was annexed after the WWII

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>>79236733
oh those western savages!

>>79236733
lol, that fort was destroyed precisely by brits. If you, pidokaz, want to blame russians, then go after Teuton castles, these was demolished after war.

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>>79236774
>Vyborg was russian
Vyborg never was russian until SU took it. There were no a single russian in Viipori before that. Then russians came...

>>79236816
Oн нe кaзaх, oн хoхoл нa зapaбoткaх.

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>>79236836
You are just retarded kid.

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>>79236816
brainless pidorussian, you don't even understand. if human demolish anything he does it completely and then he build something proper. when pidorussians come to bombed town, they just remain everything ruined and live among that shit, and when they build anything among that ruined shit, it looks even more ugly.

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Russians did destroy Kalingrad, it's a fact but desu Wyborg was destroyed by poverty more than per se russians.

Russians had no connections to koningsberg so they demolished it, compare it to, for example, Olsztyn in Poland which was both Germam and Polish for quite some time(longer than german) and got partly.rebuild.hy the Poles after russians burned it.and now is a cosy city.

>>79236836
if SU took something, why should the russians give it back today?
Its 2017, its even illegal to conquer land by war these days.

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>>79236588
You mean only successful and good looking ones.
>>79236590
Not my tribe so you just got Finnished.

>>79236926 -------> >>79236861
SU had no less rights for Vyborg than Finlabd

>>79236920
soviets built commieblocks and settled finno ugric karelian bydlo subhuman """""" russians""""" here
Russians left Viborg in 1918 and never returned

>>79236861
>implying pidorussians were allowed to live in Viipori during the times of Russian Empire
m8, your ancestors wwere treated like dogs that times, so not a single russian could move anywhere from his home town so not a single russian could deteriorate Viipori.

>>79236923
Tell your Slavic cousins to bring back Königsberg.

>>79236979
if " finno ugric karelian bydlo subhuman """""" russians""""" " live in Finland they build and live in a comfy houses.
if if " finno ugric karelian bydlo subhuman """""" russians""""" " live in russia they live in ugly pidorussian towns. Why?

Why does everything that russians touch become corrupt and destroyed?

>>79237031
Why would we? It's of 0 interest for us, why would we tell russia to do anything if it's not our business? If swedes or germans want it so badly than go and take it..

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we have a Viborg too

>>79237081
Because commies

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hmm.

>>79237149
kek, commies = russians.

>>79237215
In your dreams

>>79236773
Knut doesn't mean cunt, what are you on about?

>>79236993
My ancestors were dvoryane
they even migrated from Russia in 1919 to France
My grandma still lives in France

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>>79237251
It does now
CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT

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Wonder what happend to Vyporg or what could it be nowdays under Finnish rule

>>79235201

Shut your mouth you filthy Sw*de

We all know that it was glѳгɨѳцs ЦSSЯ with the power ѳf cѳммцпɨsм that built Vyborg.

>>79237139
protect it from r*ssian menace

>>79235136
Stfu we had villages there when you were fucking camels in middle-east 3 000 years ago.

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>>79237246
I mean that it's not communism what makes everything shitty, that are russians who make communism to make everything shitty.

ITT: Historical revisionism by Russians and Finns

Meanwhile, any historican ( even Russian and Finnish one) knows that it was built by Knutsson in 1293. Lmfao even the fucking name is Swedish, do you think Viborg means anything in Russian or Finnish? No, exactly. We wuz-ing intensifies from lesser races.

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>>79237265
very interesting, my fellow-pidorussian, now go suck some chechen cocks.

>>79237369
So now you are going to take it back?
I dont think you will. I dont even think you will try.
90% of russia's land was acquired by conquering.

>>79237281

I actually like the fact that its a mix of russian and finnish culture lol.

But having it back would be nice,lets give ahvenanmaa to russians and they give us viipuri lol

>>79237369
Fuck off sven,ahmed needs his cock cleaned.

>>79237471
We founded the place and we ruled it for over 500 years. I don't care who rules it now, just don't pretend that Finns or Russians created it lmao

>>79237431
Nords don't give a shit about Viborg, only finns and russians are petty enough to actually care. What I care about is taking back Finland.

>>79237581
>Found
How can you found something that has been settling longer than you fuckers have been in snowing area.

>>79237581
Maybe you Gnords should try taking back your own countries first, instead of this weird imagination games people like playing, like when we were kids playing pretend, im gonna call a tank on you, oh yeah? im gonna call a dragon on you, oh yeah? im gonna call an army of sharks with rockets on their backs, check mate, youre done. No im not, i have a gun, oh yea i have two, i have a bazooka

>>79237617
"The region was inhabited by the Karelians, a Balto-Finnic tribe which gradually came under the domination of Novgorod and Sweden."

"The Viborg Castle was founded during the so-called "Third Swedish Crusade" in 1293 by marsk Torkel Knutsson[7] on the site of older Karelian fort which was burned.[19] The castle was fought over for decades between Sweden and the Novgorod Republic. By the Treaty of Nöteborg in 1323 between the Republic of Novgorod and Sweden, Vyborg was finally recognized as a part of Sweden."

Just because some nigger Karelian tribes set up camp there before doesn't mean you built anything, because you didn't. You got subjugated by us as always, and we built the fort. Then we ruled the place for 500 years. Then again we ruled your entire country for 500 years or more as well, so why even care about Viborg desu senpai?

>>79237658
pew pew you're dead

but yeah definitely, I agree.

>>79237581

>we ruled it for over 500 years
>I don't care who rules it now
>just don't pretend that Finns or Russians created it

*smacks lips*

we wuz viKANGZ n shit

>>79237717
>The region was inhabited by the Karelians, a Balto-Finnic tribe

This still stands (basically Finnish)

>>79237750
This is not something you can understand, since you have no history before the 1700's. I don't even understand what you're trying to say, are you implying Swedes did not build the castle and the city, as well as ruled it for 500 years?

>>79237788
The clay was finnish, but we conquered it and built cities and castles. Just like always.

>>79237717
>/out/

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>>79237581
>taking back Finland

You and what army

>>79237850

Everything before 1776 was a mistake, your post is irrelevant.

>>79237850

>The clay was finnish, but we conquered it and built cities and castles. Just like always.

And boom you no longer have it

Just like 50% of your kingdom

>>79237872
We have already infiltrated your country, all the Fenno-Swedes are sleeper agents just waiting to go berserk on you. It will happen soon

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>>79237964

>>79237964
But everyone knows swedes make terrible warrios

>>79238071
Yeah I'm sure that's why we had a huge empire forged only by military conquest and you were our bitches :)

>>79238109

Hmm

Swedes "war" tactique was avoid Russians and give away clay

Such powerfull vikangs

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>>79238109
Funny how that empire died after Russia started taking care of us.

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>>79238163
Nice lies

We were the aggressors, remember that. They burned their own villages just to escape us lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Narva_(1700)

Our tactics were to charge straight forward, our Caroleans were religious fanatics that believed they could not be harmed by bullets. That's why we could win battles like that one, 13 000 Swedes vs 40 000 Russians.

>>79238369

Who you mean with Caroleans?

Karelians?

Plenty of your fighting was done by Finnish troops, so I guess my point stands

>>79238369
And Poland war over 50% of troops were Finns

>>79238427
>Who you mean with Caroleans?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroleans

The soldiers of Carolus, not Karelians lmfao

>>79238460
at the peak of deployment of auxilliary units, roughly 14% of our army consisted of Finnish recruits. You don't have to be a nigger and try to take credit for the accomplishments of other people lol. Perhaps the Swedes who conquered Finland were also, somehow, Finns? :D

>>79238369
Its time to stop and thank Finns for you fights.

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The town was founded by one of the most intreseting Swedes in history, Torgils Knutsson.

Too bad the Swedes here on /int/ are autistic "muh karl xii" or "muh vikangz" faggots who cant focus on the rest of Swedish history because they have no attention span

>>79238467
Well 1809 seemed a bit different

>>79238527
I already posted this earlier in the thread lol


>>79238521
Nice We Wuz-ing

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>>79238427
Reminder that Finland is rightful Swedish clay.

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>>79238564
>värmland is part of svealand

>>79238527
Well with that attitude you deserve your multicultural sweden.
Enjoy it and remember to tell those somali kids how Finns are racist and drunks.

>>79238586
t. Hassan al-Svensson

>>79238590
Lol bants aside most Swedes have no problems with Finns at all. Many Finns have a hostile attitude towards Swedes due to little-brother syndrome however, and it doesn't help that our government has fucked up our nation to become a hellhole so our public image gets even worse

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>>79238624

>>79238501

Where you got that 14%


Back in early 1000's Finns were separate tribes in small amount, so qonquer happened easier

>>79238655
Well more specifically, 14% of the army consisted of non-Swedes. Most of these were Finns but also a small amount of German mercenaries

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>>79236066
>>79235975
>>79236069
vYbrk

>>79238698
Dont forget the Scottish mercenaries. Hell, one of Swedens most important cities was basically a Scottish colony.

its worse than an omsk

>>79236565
>>79236586
What's wrong with Ladoga?

>>79238640
Don't use terms you don't completely understand.
Theres no thing like little-brother syndrome.
Its more like retard who flipped and dropped dropped box full bears which finally saw freedom.

>>79236578
BTW not hat bad. Just needs some cosmetic repairs.

>>79238698
>>79238501

https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitat
The total number of Finnish troops in the Swedish war in the 17th century was well over 30 percent. [10] However, in the cavalry, the proportion of Finnish troops was substantially higher: at the end of the Polish War there were more than 3,000 Finnish puppets, only 2,300 of the Swedes.
Suomalaisten joukkojen kokonaisosuus Ruotsin sotaväestä 1600-luvulla oli runsaat 30 prosenttia.[10] Ratsuväessä suomalaisten joukkojen osuus oli kuitenkin oleellisesti suurempi: Puolan sodan lopussa suomalaisia ratsukkoja oli yli 3 000, ruotsalaisia vain 2 300.

>>79238843
Yeah but without good leadership, these savages would just sniff their fingers all day. The commanders were always Swedish, like Stålhandske

>>79238698
Source for 14%

Also see>>79238843

>>79234838
you mean viipuri?

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>>79234838
>hardly to believe that is located in Russia
Google
street
view

>>79237211
Well, now we see how horrible was Russian Empire for Finland. Educated you and stuff. Well, you were even free from serving in army.

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>>79238879
Yeah well, a good thing after 1809 Finns never fought your wars again

Who would do it now

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>>79234838
>hardly to believe that is located in Ru~

>>79238843
Finnish wikipedia isn't exactly the most reliable source in this case, nor is Swedish wikipedia or wikipedia in general. I read a lot of military history books, for example the works of Herman Lindquist. He dissects the different regiments and soldiers in percentages and gets it to 14% non-Swedish enlisteds, 30% is quite unbelievable given the small population of Finland at the time and the general structure of the Swedish army.

>>79238952
Russia did good too, tbqh

Things still not black and white

>>79239009
Herman Lindquist isnt really a reliable source either. He is not a historian.

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>>79239007

>>79238879
You v should teach Finnics to lead Finnish army and you would have Poland and Germany.
Well oh Now you enjoy nigger raping ur mom while him laughing to sweden.

Deservers og racist well :D
Fucking idiots

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>>79239009
>Herman Lindquist

Sounds like an objective source

Whatever let's stop here

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>>79239036

>>79239113
He is a Fenno-Swedish historian. Don't really see the problem here.

>>79239193
Hehe, no he isn't.

He is a journalist

>>79239193

I see

If he's we wuzzing because of detesting Finns, like some Fennoswedes do

Or you pull that 14% from different content

>>79239210
Not sure if we're talking about the same guy here, but anyway there's plenty of other historians who write about the same topics. Do you seriously believe that all the accomplishments of the Swedish Empire were due to the finns, that made up only a small portion of the armies? These are things you'll see our marxist teachers say, that we could never accomplish anything by ourselves and in fact, all that we did was due to other people! It's not true, of course.

>>79239318
No. I just hate when people pretend Herman Lindquist is a historian. He is a damn journalists who has written about history. That doesn't make him a historian. He has zero education

>>79239400
Ok the same description of the different regiments straight out of Rehnskiöld's handbook is available in Peter Englund's works, Poltava for example.

>>79239318
>Do you seriously believe that all the accomplishments of the Swedish Empire were due to the finns

Definetily not

But I would say, the Swedish rise to a greater power was quite possibly due to luck, and a little bit of Finns. I think that turns quite obviuous at the point when Sweden faced direct collision with Russia.

And not only Finns, plenty of your army at least in the 30 year old war consisted of foreign troops. That is well known.

>>79239440
Maybe you wanna know what Peter thinks of Herman
https://peterenglundsnyawebb.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/herman-snubblar/

>>79238640
There is no such syndrome, for it would imply that Swedes are kin to Finns and not foreign imperialists who have naught to do with us by either blood or language.

>>79238640
I have nothing against Swedes either

Except some of theirs their superiority complex

Russkies stole it from us.

>>79239443
>at least in the 30 year old war consisted of foreign troops. T
Yes, back then it was quite different because it was before the new system was implemented ( the system that drafted a certian amount of young men from all the Läns/provinces of Sweden). Still, they were all led by the warrior king Gustavus Adolphus, the Lion of the North.

>But I would say, the Swedish rise to a greater power was quite possibly due to luck, and a little bit of Finns
But not at all due to Swedes? I mean how could Swedes have anything to do with the rise of their own empire? Must've been luck and other ethnic groups!


>for it would imply that Swedes are kin to Finns
Well, there is almost no genetic difference between Swedes and Western Finns, for example.

https://helda.helsinki.fi/handle/10138/36772

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1783413

https://www.quora.com/How-close-are-the-Swedish-and-Finnish-blood-heritage-wise-Or-on-a-genetic-level

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-speaking_population_of_Finland#Genetics

>>79238369
Swedish """"empire"""" was a regime that bled peasants dry to enrich bloodthirsty genocidal kings. Only Sabaton listening retards find it proud to have died in wars far away from home.

>>79239474
Woops meant to reply to you here >>79239641

>>79239641
Also due to Swedes yes

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>>79238952
I dont hate Russian empire, I hate those fucking communist and sweden.
I respect last living Tzar, thanks for all those things sweden would never grant us.

>>79239663
>a regime that bled peasants dry to enrich bloodthirsty genocidal kings.
So just like any empire, ever, more or less.

>>79239846
>So just like any empire, ever, more or less.

And being proud of it is retarded.

>>79239641
>Well, there is almost no genetic difference between Swedes and Western Finns, for example.
But that's wrong, Western Finns cluster further from Swedes than Russians ans Germans do (FST distance between Swedes and Germans is 6, with West Finns it is about 30).

Bashing on russia thread evolved into swede-finnish autism
Why are finns such autist?
Sweden was right, they are inferior to the nordic übermensch

>>79236182
>>79236216
Moscow sucks oil out of it and looks like """""european city""""" and m*scovites consider all these lands to be a shitty province.

Fuck r*ssia. Fuck m*scovites.

I hope that the time will come when Karelia and Siberia will throw away former g*mmies and will be free

>>79239963
Thankfully Swedes are getting genocided as we speak for their sins

>>79240029
Swedes are better in every way
Epicanthic fold is an epitome of submissive behaviour

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>>79236816
>>79236846
t.

>>79240051
Go back to turkey nigger

>>79240051
Your opinions don't matter, they will go extinct anyway.

>>79234838
it only looks cool on shoped pictures taken from a long distance lol. there are a few places that don't look too ugly and they are also being used for those cherrypicked pictures. vyborg is basically the same as any other town russia - poor, grey, dirty and full of alcoholics and criminals

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>>79240066
>>79240074
>They don't deny it
Lmao
Don't worry, you will accept the truth soon enough

>>79240026
karelia and siberia are just regular russian shitholes filled with the same scum as the rest of the country

>>79240133
This is russian girl 2bh

>>79240175
Siberia has a chance to be filled with the Chinese

slavic scum

enslave them all

>>79240133
There's no need to deny something that has no basis in fact.

>>79240237
Deny it, but soon you will remember me as the bearer of the truth

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>>79240182
I know it has none Finnic features

>>79240133
Not a Finn

I wouldn't even consider that if I saw her irl

>>79237906

i like finland :3

>>79239840
You really think Väinämöinen would approve of hate for Swedes just out of spite? Does he not walk the forest of Lappland on our side of the border just as he walks in the forests of your lands? Just because you hate us doesn't make the bonds between our people any less strong

>>79240219
Aren't you a Slav? lol

>>79238564
>Daily reminder that indians dont know how to poo in loo

:--------DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>79239840
>I respect last living Tzar
the tsar who initiated the russification of finland?
dumb russian

>>79241110
and they'll beat you to death if you give them money to use it

>>79235686
What a cuckold.

>>79234838
>hardly to believe that is located in Russia
Implying you know anything about Russia aside memes.

>>79241687
Fuck off neger.