Post the biggest shithole of your contitent

>>79204748
continent*

You are so butthurt lel

>>79204694

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fck u

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 2 when?

>>79204748
Why do you hate Poles so much?

>>79204748
vgt (very good thread)

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>>79204941
>Why?
Viewed everyone in the Grand duchy of Lithuania as subhumans and that's why our delegation left the first time.
Tried to polonize our country and almost did it.
Stole our capital
Tried staging a coup in a city to which at the time we moved our capital too.
Banned Lithuanian schools and killed Lithuanians (Armija Krajowa more specifically)
Their minority always votes for the pro-kremlin parties
Refuse to learn Lithuanian and speak russian instead and some don't even speak polish

>>79205241
But Poles told me that their country never did anything wrong, and only was the innocent victim of Russia, Germany and Sweden

>>79205275
"Pole" is synonymous to a "liar"

>>79205314
Ok, good to know.
The next time a Pole claims that Poland is the Christ of Nations, I will remind him how they opressed Lithuania

>>79205275
>>79205275
>their country never did anything wrong
yes, but to humans

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>>79204748
honestly wish they'd leave so we can invade and put them in concentration camps

>>79205368
Lithuania's version of our common history is just as legit as the Ukrainian one.

>>79206012
Then please give me your version

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>>79205929
fuck off

>>79205368
we didn't

>>79205314
This
>>79204748
Goos thread

>>79206035
Dindu nuffin, gib reparations

>>79204748
why did we accept all those commie shitholes into eu exactly? nothing but leeching on gibs

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>>79204748

>>79206176
i dont believe you

>>79205241
>Tried to polonize our country and almost did it.
Lithuanian and Ruthenian nobility polonized themselves you dense faggot. There was never any government-sanctioned polonization attempt unless you're talking about interwar period in which case its silly

>Stole our capital
Wilno was never a Lithuanian city. Lithuanians living in it are mere squatters.

>and killed Lithuanians (Armija Krajowa more specifically)
They were communists supporting the soviet union and attacking Poles.

>Their minority always votes for the pro-kremlin parties
Shouldn't have banned Polish schools and Polish dual-language signs. Lithuanians are truly the niggers of europe.

>Refuse to learn Lithuanian and speak russian instead and some don't even speak polish
Lithshit fairytales

>>79206348
Are you retarded?

>>79206551
Fairly sure I'm not, wouldn't pass the tests for work if I was. You?

>>79206613
But you are, since your arguments are totally bs
Polish diaspora is pathetic, they even speak russian, why defending them?
Retarded pole

>>79206348
I don't know much about Polish-Lithuanian history, but to me it sounds like you are rationalizing Polish Imperialism

>>79206348
>Wilno was never a Lithuanian city. Lithuanians living in it are mere squatters.

Vilnius belonged to Poland for less than 20 years out of 700~ years lmao.

>Shouldn't have banned Polish schools and Polish dual-language signs. Lithuanians are truly the niggers of europe.

You dumb nigger, no schools are banned you can get your education from kindergarten to university level in Polish and dual-language signs were never a thing in the first place how did we ban it?

>Lithshit fairytales

Again this retard these "Poles" are basically Belarussians larping as Poles some of course speak Polish, but most speak Russians and consume Russian media.

>Lithuanian and Ruthenian nobility polonized themselves you dense faggot. There was never any government-sanctioned polonization attempt unless you're talking about interwar period in which case its silly

>They were communists supporting the soviet union and attacking Poles.

That's a new one, we were supporting communists lmao.

>The Polonization of Church life in southwestern Lithuania made its greatest advances during Bishop Pawel Straszyński's ten year (1837-1847) reign as Bishop of Sejny. Concerned with reforming the lax standards in the liturgy, Straszyński reformed the church services; however, in doing so, he also abolished Lithuanian sermons and services in many parishes of the diocese.28 Bishop Straszyński not only failed to learn the language spoken by over half of his flock, but was reported to have openly and publicly insulted Lithuanian as a "language of sheep," a derogatory expression not uncommon at the time.29 In addition, Straszyński assigned many Poles to Lithuanian parishes, ending the former policy of taking language into account in appointing pastors.

One of many examples.

Literally everything you said is a lie.

>>79206983
>Literally everything you said is a lie.
t. Lithuania-approved history book

lmao

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>>79204748

ahah look at those non countries at each others throath

>>79207091
Kys dumb pole
Cant even refute his post
Idiot
Kys

>>79207556
t. Lithuanian gastarbeiter in Dusland

>>79207644
No im volga German

>>79206983
>Vilnius belonged to Poland for less than 20 years out of 700~ years lmao.
And 500 years of these it was inhabited by Poles speaking polish?
>You dumb nigger, no schools are banned you can get your education from kindergarten to university level in Polish and dual-language signs were never a thing in the first place how did we ban it?
You keep closing polish schools while there are lithuanian language schools in Poland as well as dual-language street and town-signs. Not to mention that you don't allow Poles to spell their names they were supposed to be spelled, while Lithuanians in Poland can name themselves Vytautas with "v" if they feel like it.
>Again this retard these "Poles" are basically Belarussians larping as Poles some of course speak Polish, but most speak Russians and consume Russian media.
Who gives a fuck if they're polonized Belarussians? There are germanized Poles in Germany and anglicized Paddies in England, are you going to deny them the right to identify as what they want to be identified as?
>That's a new one, we were supporting communists lmao.
muh liths were good bois they dindu nuffin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponary_massacre
Not to mention that you subhumans keep pretending that Poles buried in cemeteraies in Vilnius are "Lithuanian and Belarussian" and refuse to provide tourist descriptions in Polish for these cemetaries, even though you provide tourist descriptions in english, russian and even german, while the people lying there are Poles.
Lithuanians are scum.

>inb4 you're a Polish expat defending poland trollollol
I'm visiting a friend in Vancouver you fucknut.

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>>79207871
>And 500 years of these it was inhabited by Poles speaking polish?


Nice meme.

>You keep closing polish schools

You do the same, not enough students = closing school since it's not viable to drain money instead of transferring students to other schools. Don't act like Poland doesn't do it either. Besides we have the most Polish schools outside of Poland and your diaspora isn't the biggest here.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponary_massacre

Woah massacre perpetrated by SS-Einsatgruppen and handful of collaborators from Ypatingasis Būrys a unit which never exceeded 100 people and had Russian and Poles in it too.

> Not to mention that you don't allow Poles to spell their names they were supposed to be spelled

They're free to spell their name as they want using Lithuanian orthography. Why don't you complain that Brits don't let your kids be named Bronisława but Bronislawa is fine? They're free to leave if they don't like it here and don't adhere to our constitution.

>>79208139
>posting a Russian map that doesn't even show who lived in the CITY, but only shows who lived in villages nearby

> as they want using Lithuanian orthography

In Poland they don't have to use Polish spelling.

>Why don't you complain that Brits

Because Poles are not a national minority in the UK, just gastarbaiters, so they don't need such rights. Poles moved to the UK on their own, so they had to accept British rules. Meanwhile, Poles in Lithuania didn't move anywhere, it's Lithuania, that came to them and started occupying their land.

>>79208139
If you like Russian sources so much:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8E%D1%81%D0%B0

>Пo дaнным, coбpaнным мecтнoй aдминиcтpaциeй, в 1909 гoдy из 205 250 житeлeй гopoдa былo 77 500 (37,8 %) пoлякoв, 75 520 (36,8 %) eвpeeв, 2 453 (1,2 %) литoвцeв, 7 158 (3,5 %) лиц дpyгих нaциoнaльнocтeй, a тaкжe 37 341 (18,2&%) pyccких пpaвocлaвных, 5 236 (2,5 %) pyccких cтapooбpядцeв и 42 pyccких инoгo вepoиcпoвeдaния.

And it's Russian sources, that usually tended to lower the number of Poles in Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine. But they couldn't deny, that Poles were the biggest nation in Wilno.

>>79208139
>Don't act like Poland doesn't do it either.
We close Lithuanian schools in Lithuanian minority areas? That's interesting.
>Woah massacre perpetrated by SS-Einsatgruppen and handful of collaborators from Ypatingasis Būrys a unit which never exceeded 100 people and had Russian and Poles in it too.
All your people supported it. You murdered thousands of Poles with your German "friends".
>They're free to spell their name as they want using Lithuanian orthography.
The thing is that "v" doesn't exist in the polish alphabet. Yet your people are allowed to use it. See the difference here?

>>79208226
Submissive cuck

>>79205241
>Their minority always votes for the pro-kremlin parties


You must have been really "nice" to them, if you could make POLES, who are genetically anti-Russian, vote for pro-Kremlin party.

Literally, how big piece of mean shit you must be if Poles prefer Russians over you?

>>79208316
Lithuania was occupied at this point
Its like saying today germans shoikd held responsible for the crimes of their ancestors

>>79208439
Poles are too dumb to expose even the cheapest propaganda

>>79208480
>Its like saying today germans shoikd held responsible for the crimes of their ancestors

They should and they will pay reparations to us soon.

>>79208226
>Meanwhile, Poles in Lithuania didn't move anywhere, it's Lithuania, that came to them and started occupying their land.


Low quality bait.

>>79208316
>All your people supported it. You murdered thousands of Poles with your German "friends".


Start a war take capital city, planned to occupy whole country then threatened with ultimatums just before the WW2.

>why don't Lithuanians like us

You're really dense aren't you?

>The thing is that "v" doesn't exist in the polish alphabet. Yet your people are allowed to use it. See the difference here?

The thing is Poland doesn't really have minorities, your minorities like Kashubarians are just Poles anyway. You keep insisting that this minority is Polish while they're Putinist shills who are actually Belarusians.

https://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithuania/lietuvos-tautines-mazumos-ivertino-v-putina-ir-d-grybauskaite.d?id=72329270

Vast majority of them support Putin and Russia.

You've cut off most of the biggest shithole of Europe. East Germany isn't even the worst part of Germany.

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>>79208525
>POLUDED

If this board had any moderation the literally mentally ill people who spam the same thread every day for attention would be banned on sight

I'm from Africa, so most countries below the Sahara..

>>79208531

http://www.epaveldas.lt/object/recordDescription/ARCH/604/10/1

And metrics from Vilnius church records about weddings and etc from 17th century.

Names like Jan Grigoronis, Jendreionis, Adam Bartonis, Stephan Jakubonis, Urban Macieionis, Bartosz Szimononis.Adam Martisionis, Stephan Stogelis, Dzidzikas, Simon Jurkonis, Ferens Szimanonis, Jerzy Mikolaionis

Very Polish indeed.

>>79208618
>mentally ill people
You could just say Pole or Lithuanian, you know, we would understand what you mean.

>>79208531
>Low quality bait.

It's not a bait, it's true. These people lived in Poland, but one day, they suddenly woke up in Lithuania. It's not their fault. Most of them want Wilno to be in Poland again.

>Start a war take capital city

What capital city? I can declare Paris a capital of Poland, but it won't magically become one.

There are actually more Poles in Paris than there were Lithuanians in Wilno in 1920.

>The thing is Poland doesn't really have minorities, your minorities like Kashubarians are just Poles anyway

We also have a bunch of Lithuanians in north-eastern Poland, they have all minority rights, they even have names of towns in Lithuanian language.

>while they're Putinist shills who are actually Belarusians.

Sure, you know better who they are, lol. So Lithuanians in Poland are also Belarussians, who only pretend to be Lithuanians, ok?

>Vast majority of them support Putin and Russia.

That's what I said. Lithuanians must be really shit people, if you could make Poles support Putin and Russia. They support Russia, because they know that only Russia can REALLY protect them from lithuanization. Poland can't do much, because we're in the EU and NATO.

>>79208720
>REALLY protect them from lithuanization

Oh the horrors they can only get their education from kindergarten to university in Polish. But they can't write w in their passports. Truly massive polonization.

>>79208531
>city populated by 95% Poles gets conquered by the Polish army
>this justifies killing civilians and helpless villagers
That's not how it works, retard.
>The thing is Poland doesn't really have minorities
Percentagewise less minorities than Lithuania, yes. Yet we still allow Germans in Silesia to write their village names in german and Lithuanians in Podlasie to write their village names in lithuanian.
>Vast majority of them support Putin and Russia.
Irrelevant. Clearly there are reasons for that, most likely caused by Lithuanians themselves. Besides, Russia is not the boogeyman Lithuanians make it out to be.
>>79208687
>Jan, Adam, Bartosz, Jerzy
These are literally Polish names kek.

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>>79204748

That's correct. Lithuanians, as a very small nation, are paranoid to lose its identity once again. The baltic countries are just so fucking small.

As somebody above said, the young polish people are getting more aware of the wrong opinions of their grandparents. I think soon much will change:) I know some russians and poles from Lithuania, who are more loyal than some lithuanians I know. So I am reallly positive!

>>79208808
>That's not how it works, retard.
That's not how nationality works either, just because I speak English doesn't make me English/British or whatever.

>These are literally Polish names kek.
Yeah all of them had Lithuanian surnames.

Get back to the thread topic

>>79208687
>Jan
Why not Jonas?

>Adam

Why not Adomas?

>Jerzy

How do you pronounce "rz" in Lithuanian?

pls no bully mighty Lithuania

>>79208880
But if I speak english with an english accent, live in England and identify as English I'm fucking English and you're not going to tell me otherwise lol.
>Yeah all of them had Lithuanian surnames.
And their parents still chose to give them Polish first names?

>>79208864
Most of Poles actually leave Lithuania because it's a shithole without jobs. Well, actually most of ethnic Lithuanians do it as well. So soon they will have 100% homogenous country, because it will be completely empty.

>>79208864
>That's correct. Lithuanians, as a very small nation, are paranoid to lose its identity once again. The baltic countries are just so fucking small.
Honestly this. It sucks, but I think that small countries like Lithuania have a right to be more heavy-handed with their minorities than big countries like Poland in order to preserve their national identity. It seems like Lithuanians are apparently gonna go extinct pretty soon anyway, so why are we even arguing about what they do to minorities in their country?

>>79208905
Because Polish was lingua franca at the time and church and other officials were Polish speakers. For example the guy who got us indepedence from SU Landsbergis who was in fact German from Livonia, his grandfather was also Vytautas but Catholic Church here refused to baptize him in Lithuanian name so he went to Lutherans.

>>79208945
Yeah good luck with that and I'm an attack helicopter because I feel like one. Just you're able to speak English and identify as one doesn't make you one until you hold their citizenship.

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>>79208880
How is this possible, that such a big country like GDL was completely dominated and polonized without any force by such small Poland?

Lithuanians must be just inferior people.

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Poland is magnificent, MAGNIFICENT!

>>79208945
you're not english mate, jus sanguinis (which is the only reasonable way)

>>79209088
Or better example French was used as lingua franca among higher class people in Russian Empire for some time, so going by this leafs logic it makes them French.

>>79209088
>Catholic Church here refused to baptize him

lol, the Catholic Church in Lithuania was nationalists and the gymnasium in Mariampol produced nazi anti-Polish priests

>>79209152
Muhhh poor poolan

>every day the same thread
>every day the same Lithuanian tries to prove the same thing
>every day someone trolls him
>every day he takes the bait

>>79209365
>Loosing argument
>Deflect to meme arrows

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daily reminder that all documents in the GDL were written in Belarusian

>>79209511
I disagree, anon. I think this new Pennywise has to be the scariest movie monster we've seen in years. Literally years. There's two scenes in this movie that absolutely sent shivers down my spine. First when Pennywise possesses the slideshow and we finally get to see his very creepy and mental face in the final scene. What a build-up! I nearly pissed myself.

The other one is in the basement, first we see the excellent performance by Georgie's actor. You'll float too never has sounded more epically scary. And then Pennywise rises from the waters. I jumped in my chair and still do when watching this. I can tell I will be on the edge of my seat in theatres this september.

The movie itself seems to capture that 80s feeling we've seen in Stranger Things and other important work. Do your part and see it in theaters. Be a part of history.

>>79209552
have a nice day

>>79209472
hello, Zoran

>>79209511
why belarussians hate gdl?

>>79209738
We love it because it's our country
retard

>>79209007
It's okay if we mistreat the people living in our country after the borders shifted because we're a small nation n shiet. Who cares if Poles in Poland treat our countrymen much better than we treat Poles here? We're a small country, so it's okay to murder villagers and tell them how their names are supposed to be spelled. Oh, and it's also okay to pretend that their grandparents were Lithuanian. That's totally ethical!
>>79209088
>be born into a Polish family in what used to be Poland
>speak polish at home
>have a Polish name
>get your education in polish and your entire village speaks polish
>you're not polish because some Lithuanian said so
>it's also okay if some Lithuanian partisan shoots you now, after all, how dare you identify as Polish, you fucking subhuman!? Why won't you pretend that you're Lithuanian!?
Lol. Tell me how all the Germans with family names like "Gransitzki" whose families have lived there for 200 years aren't german, just because you said so. Ah right, Irishmen with family names like "O'Connor" who have lived in western England for centuries aren't English either. It's just propaganda.

>>79209844
Lukashenko doesn't like it for some reason.

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>>79209952
rly?

>>79209982
He changed that flag and coat of arms when he became the president.

>>79210020
How does this relate to this?>>79209511

>>79210058
it doesn't

i just asked why belarussians don't respect their own history

>>79210106
coat of arms and flag yes.
But the fact that the GDL - the Belarusian state is taught from the first grade.

>>79210286
>But the fact that the GDL - the Belarusian state is taught from the first grade.

But Lukashenko says that history of Belarus began in 1921.

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>>79205241

Srsly?!
typical pole's traditional butthurt dwarfed this much in a single post.

wow

thank you kind sir, thank you so much

>>79210437
>But Lukashenko says that history of Belarus began in 1921.
he never said that but he said that the Francisk Skorina worked in St. Petersburg (Francisk Skorina died 150 years before the founding of St. Petersburg)

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Dlaczego Litwini jedzą gówno?

>>79204748
that is not african?

Belarussians are the rightful descendants of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
No idea why Lithuaniggers usurped Belarussian legacy as their own.

Lithuanian wasn't even an official (hell even a minority language) in the Grand Duchy. Even fucking Armenian was. Official languages of the Commonwealth were as follows: Latin, Polish, Ruthenian (ancestor of modern day belarussian).

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Vilnius is Lithuania thus GDL is Lithuanian

why is eu allowing poland to even talk? should kick all polish outside back to poland, cut their gibs, put the army at their borders so they cant do any trading with anyone and and crush them when they think they can even do something

>>79213289
good post

>>79212768
semi-rare

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>>79213189
What was the first capital of the GDL called and where is it now?

>>79214428
Kernavė,Senieji Trakai,Vilnius
all in Lithuania
all Lithuanian

>>79205241
we are sorry ,can we be frens again ?

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Daily reminder to ignore that kacap diaspora in lithuania and his attempts to divide and conquer

>>79215145
>t. mad subhuman

>>79215145
kys buttmad pole

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>>79215145
kys piece of shit

ITT:Subhuman poles

>>79213337
>>79214500
>>79215205
>>79216069

gtfo back to africa, subhuman nigger

>>79216231
enjoying your vacation in Poland janek?
when are you going back to UK to scrub toilets?

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>>79208139
Lol...

>>79204748
You madmen, what have you done?! You've summoned the dreaded Swede-Polack! Kiss and make up before he bombs you with wikipedia articles and pictures of old paintings

>>79216601
nice "source"

>>79216601
>microsoft edge
>swedish flag
>polish diaspora
you should consider suicide

>>79216541

this is a blue board, no niggers allowed here so take a banana and gtfo already

>>79216794
Is this that famous polish hospitality that I've heard so much about?

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I will explode from butthurt and hate. Fuck you Shituania

>>79216794
>pole
>calling someone a nigger

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>>79216727
>nice "source"
You retarded?
>>79216731
That's an old pic.

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>>79204748
Without a doubt. Every other country in North America is livable except this one

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>>79214500
Na-va-hru-dak

>>79216958
ahh yes more polish lies and their "sources" in which all jews were counted as polish ahh yes very nice
>>79217613
ahh yes the claim that no one excepts for belarusians believe in
also Lithuanians used to also live in many parts of belarus that place included

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>>79217784
if the GDL was Lithuanian, why the documents were written in all languages.....except Lithuanian

>>79218005
Majority of its people were Ruthenian
Most nobles were Lithuanian
simple as

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>>79217784
>polish lies
Since when are Russian and German censuses "Polish"? In fact, Germans especially, were anti-Polish and were lowering Polish numbers.
>in which all jews were counted as polish
No, Jews were counted separately as you can clearly see here idiot >>79216601
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_Vilnius_region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius#Demographics

Poles were a majority in Vilnius, and the areas surrounding it, in the 18th and 19th centuries while Lithuanians made up only 1-2% of it. Those are facts.

>>79218534
the only fact that there is is that poles faked the demographics it has been disproved so many times already

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>>79218455
>Majority of its people were Ruthenian
>Most nobles were Lithuanian
and because of this the Grand-ducal chancellery recorded everything in .......... language
but then only the upper strata of society could read at that time, or ........... were so smart

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>>79218635
>poles faked the demographics
YOU IDOT, it was the Russians and Germans (their administration) who made those censuses which both showed Poles as the clear majority you pathetic liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PBBx_L4KwM

>>79218825
yes
Lithuania expanded into ruthenian lands not by force but by marriages because there were more ruthenians it is also one of the main reasons why GDL of lithuania was so multicultural and invited jews and tatars

>>79218880
got any more fake images? or fake sources?

Why this board hates Poland so much?

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>>79218938
That is, your level of development was so high that the writing of your language appeared only in the XVI century, and you already cunningly captured the ruthenian lands?

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>>79218971
Oh I know you're trolling now... Well good luck with your faggotry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umc-uq21d2Q

>>79219296
first Lithuanian book not the language to claim that it didn't exist before that would be crazy
and what does having a book have to do with conquering lands?
roman empire got ravaged by barbarians
our common folk were pagans while our nobles were quite a lot more educated
Our only Mindaugas king got baptized
and honestly I think its a bit ironic that you someone from Belarus is saying about our language since many belarusians don't speak belarusian

>>79219464
got any more counter arguments on how great your country is expat?

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>>79219725
>first Lithuanian book not the language to claim that it didn't exist before that would be crazy
>and what does having a book have to do with conquering lands?
Well, I thought that this is an indicator of the development of the nation
it seems that it is not so (

>our common folk were pagans while our nobles were quite a lot more educated
And so they used their native language to write documents on it, and especially the Lithuanian Metrica

>and honestly I think its a bit ironic that you someone from Belarus is saying about our language since many belarusians don't speak belarusian
what does this have to do with the historical debate? If they do not speak it, it does not mean that they do not use it and do not know it.

>>79212768
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