ITT: things that are Spain's fault

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>Steal it from us after a flase flag
>It's our fault that it's a shithole right now
American gymnastics huh

>>79160446
>sink their proper ship to declare a ilegitimal war against spain

ahhhhh your brithis pirate genes.

>>79160521
What's your excuse for Mexico?

>>79160595
literally you buying drugs destabilising them

>>79160622
They were shit before drugs were even a thing though. At least we brought them refrigeration.

>>79160595
spanish colonies were properous before their independence. its not our fault they are shitholes nowadays

DES

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>>79160595
Your fault that you don't let them govern in piece. Mexico used to be a really safe and cozy place until the CIA had to create drug cartels to fund the garbage they do. Pic related Mexico in the past.

PA

>>79160662
Mexico was so shit immediately after independence that like 80% of Mexico tried to secede from Mexico.

SI

>>79160446
The genocide of the Aztecs, Incas, Mayans, and the other one. Planting themselves in Central America just so they can bitch about "muh colonialism" in White America.

>>79160662
This. Independent countries should learn from their ex colonisers instead of blaming them.

>>79160753
I agree with that. If the leftie fifth columnists here let the abos have the country back, it'd be Somalia within a year.

>>79160662
This pretty much. They were really rich that even Britain tried to conquer Colombia and Argentina but got btfo

>>79160720
Yeah, you don't have the right to be talking about seccesation

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>>79160587
there's no such thing as an illegitimate war against Spain

>>79160827
That was like a hundred years later. I'm talking immediately.

>>79160682
I don't think it was CIA fault.
NAFTA was responsible for destroying the Mexican agriculture, and narcs coming from Colombia started to grow drugs there.

Want to blame someone for the narcotic problem in Mexico? Blame the average American nigger, who buy this shit.

>>79160933
Both actually. NAFTA for creating them and the CIA for funding them. Haven't you noticed how cartels have American weapons? Really makes me ponder on how they got it.

>>79161037
>everyone on earth has american weapons
>have you seen how mexico has american weapons?!
Well yeah champ, guns is kind of what we do.

>>79160446
USA is our worst former colony

LOS

>>79161085
Do you actually think that criminal organizations can end up having an arsenal as big as to arm the whole fucking population by just buying it at the local gun store in Mexico? Are you fucking stupid?

>>79161216
Not our fault Mexicans are so good at smuggling.

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>>79161251
>This fucking post
Wew lad

>>79161307
It's true, that's like 20% of their GDP.

>>79161037
Murica is right. Anyone can buy American weapons. Some people just like to go cheap and go for Russians weapons.
I don't discard the option that CIA really did make things easier to Cartels reach Mexico, but i don't think they are the only responsible.

>>79161251
>Not our fault
Yes. It's your fault with a loose laws about drug consumption.
If America stop consuming so much drugs, cartels in Mexico would go bankrupt. But nooo, we must do like the jew in the tv tell us to do. Gonna smoke dope, just like the niggers tell us to do in their "musics".

>Murrifats being BTFO in the thread they created

>>79162173
>loose laws about drug consumption.
Except we don't have those. Not even remotely.

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>>79160662
not all of them

>>79162836
You have shit enforcement which is about the same

>>79162924
>this coming from mexico

>>79162871
Lmoa the fuck is a filipinas

>>79162950
meh, you're the ones insisting your domestic issues are our problem

>>79163120
Mexican citizens not staying the fuck in Mexico is indeed your problem.

>>79163004
idk lol

>>79160446

>refugees flooding in from destabilized countries
>terrorist attacks in the US from groups trained by the US to destabilize countries
>copious drug demand from the US creates drug war creating waves of illegal immigration and generations of unjust imprisonment
>contribute a great amount of pollutants and then elect a leader who doesn't believe that influences climate eliminating environmental protections for money, his first year the most significant storm in a decade and the biggest wildfire ever in california

>not our fault
>not our fault
>not our fault
>not our fault

We're used to that by now. Biggest tragedy is, that it rubbed off on us too.

>>79163169
No, it isn't, Mexican citizens enjoy a constitutional right known ás freedom of movement. The responsibility of guarding your own borders and territory lies squarely on you.

>>79163307
Climate change is a meme. Even if the icecaps completely melt there's nowhere that floods that will be missed.

>florida and southern california are gone!
o noes

>>79163336
No you don't faggot. You do not have a right to cross your fucking border without documentation, much less America's border as well.

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>>79163387
>Americans are so stupid they blame their poorly patrolled borders and retarded immigration policies on the ones who obviously take advantage from it.

>>79163576
>poorly patrolled borders
You mean that border we spend probably 10% of your GDP on? Strangely enough we don't have this problem with Canada.

And no faggot, to leave Mexico without presenting proper documentation is also a crime in Mexico. Perhaps they should enforce their own fucking laws.

>>79163387
Actually I do have a right to do just that, google article 11 of the Mexican constitution, Mexican authorities do not ask for my passport when leaving the country, on return it's merely a convenience I can prove my citizenship any number of ways, illegals deported from your country are only asked basic questions to establish they're Mexicans for instance.

Your laws are your problem in your territory, the Mexican government has no authority there now does it?

>>79163643
>You mean that border we spend probably 10% of your GDP on?
And yet you fail

>Strangely enough we don't have this problem with Canada.
Probably because Canada is a better place and they do not have any reason to migrate en masse?

>>79163729
>And yet you fail
Probably because they're a ravenous horde or locusts in the millions. Short of us mowing them down with machine guns I fail to see how your lazy, corrupt shithole could do even half as good a job.

>>79163643
Leaving the country without documents is not a crime in Mexico, did you learn that in /pol?

>>79163710
Bullshit, you absolutely have to present ID when you leave Mexico. I've seen it with my own eyes faggot.

>>79163801
They're not, Mexicans haven't been migrating to your country in net numbers for something like a decade.

>>79163865
>you have ten to fifteen less Mexicans every year so why are you upset about the 10s of millions already there?

>>79163852
No you don't, the airlines (that's not Mexican authorities) ask for travel documents before letting people board planes. If I leave the country to enter international waters via boat I wouldn't have to do shit, same for migrants, they may be breaking US law by entering your country but they don't break Mexico's by leaving.

>>79163984
They do at the border and they do at the airport. If you're suggesting most beaners are getting here by boat you're being a disingenuous faggot.

>>79163355

I'd miss NYC.

>>79163801
Are you retarded?
For starters, many of the illegals in your border are not even mexican. This is what you get for fucking an entire continent for a century.
In the second place, the spanish border is the one for which less non european illegals enter. They mostly enter via Italy, Greece or Russia.
What a joke of a country.

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>>79160446

>>79163902
it's something like 5 million illegal Mexicans in the US, not tens of millions. there's around 40 million Mexicans who are bona fide US citizens. Good luck catching them and no, we will not accept Central Americans, they're your problem.

>>79164104
>it's something like 5 million illegal Mexicans in the US, not tens of millions
Bullshit. There's five million in LA and Riverside alone.

>cosas que son culpa de España.
>EEUU btfo

Please no bully Estados Unidos, Mejico.
It's going to be a part of you in the near future.

>You will never be a Gachupin that starts a successfull bussiness in Mejico or Filipinas to make them great again.
Feelbadman.jpg

>>79164018
The border crossing is customs, not migration, for people leaving. Technically they shouldn't be able to stop you if you prove you're a Mexican citizen. And again at the airport it's the fucking airlines, it's not my fault you can't distinguish in between government authorities and flight atendants.

>>79164069
Oh fuck off. Those places were all shit before we even existed and it was shit because of you. If anything we made places like Costa Rica, Panama, Cuba (before they fucked it up) and Puerto Rico exponentially better.

>>79164163
Not according to Pew but by all means feel free to quote Ann Coulter or Alex Jones for your numbers.

>>79164234
>Cuba
Yes things were so good peasants all supported a socialist revolution.

>>79160662
thi for every colony were the natives weren't heavily replaced by white

>>79164244
I'm quoting my own eyes and ears paco. Oddly enough illegals aren't keen on answering surveys regarding their felonies.

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>>79160446
Puerto Ricans unironically enjoy a higher purchasing power than spaniards themselves and it is the richest single territory per capita in the hispanosphere. Southern coners will come and tell you otherwise, but they're deluded as fuck

>>79164274
>peasants all supported
Weird half the island was either jailed, killed, or fled then.

>>79164234
TIP TOP KEK
I do not know if you are just trying to damage control or just ignorant.
Until your intervention all those countries had a literacy and safety indexes comparables to many european countries. It was you with your CIA plans to fuck these countries what made them shit. Your shadowy hand can be seen in the history of every fucking latinoamerican country. All of them.
Yeah, they were so shit that all of them had universities before any american would have dreamed of, same for the printing press. Even the first railroad was built in Cuba before than in the spanish mainland.

>>79164308
isn't Equitorial Guinea part of the hispanosphere?

>>79164308
Puerto Rico is broke and near Indian reservation status when it comes to public services, looking at raw data isn't as straightforward as that.

>>79164302
Seriously gringo, you've personally counted 5 million people?

>>79164333
nah, memes aside it wasn't half the island, who's being disngenous here?

>>79164381

>near Indian reservation status when it comes to public services

If you had even been to either one you know that's bullshit. Intenta limitarte a los temas que conozcas y ya.

>>79164365
>Your shadowy hand can be seen in the history of every fucking latinoamerican country. All of them.
So can the Soviets. Guess which countries turned out better, the ones the Soviets won in or the ones we won in?

>>79164374
Should be. But they change sides to France every now an then to get friendly with other African nations. The authorities in Spain recommend not to travel there. The relationship with Spain is not good since they accused the Spanish president (Aznar) to support Some mercenaries who tried to kill EG's dictator

>>79164524

Which ones is it that you won in again?

>>79164584
Panama, Chile, Colombia, Despacito Island, etc.

>>79164381
I'd rather live in Puerto Rico than in Uruguay and I'm pasty as fuck pale. I love debunking memes and not having a fucking sheep mindset like 99% of people

>>79164374
Nope. They're a clusterfuck of people speaking weird sounding Spanish, Portuguese and tribal languages

>>79164512
Dude hyperbole aside you people are going through shit, are you legit denying that? Puerto Rico's government just anounced power outages caused by the coming hurricane could go on for months because of the bad infrastructure.

>>79160446
The USA. Mexico. Cana- wait can we blame Spain for them as well?

>>79164374
It's even more complicated than with you guys, they never did establish themselves as Spanish speakers through literature and they speak a lot of other things. It's still funny to see Africans speaking with a Spanish accent tho.

>>79164584
>>79164648
Also Costa Rica were always our ride or die niggas, and that place is a paradise.

>>79160622
keep them out. its their own corrupt fault that you can pay off any cop for a nickel

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>>79162836
>Except we don't have those. Not even remotely.

>>79160446
DES

>>79164667
> speaking weird sounding Spanish
To me, I think they look that they "speak better Spanish" similar to Peninsular Spanish dialects than you guys.

>Mfw Venezuela and Argentina were richer than Spain 60 years ago
>Mfw even with all the unemployment we still have better life conditions
>Mfw no face

>>79165672
Indeed. Guineanos have a surprisingly good spanish.

>>79164667
>weird looking spanish

Says the shitty dude from colombia kek

The only true spanish is the one from Spain and Argentina/Uruguay. All the others sound shitty and disgusting

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>>79166111
Argentinian/ Uruguayan Spanish sound closer to italian than to Spanish man, what are you saying?. The closest accent to true Castilian is the Colombian highland accent according to RAE (real academia española). We, unlike the southern cone, only received immigrants from Spain until well into the XIX century as immigration from other countries was prohibited

>>79164292
t. Mamadou

>>79164701

Yeah, they're covering they're asses for the mountain folk. Where logistically it will take longer.

Most cities, where most people live should have power within a week or two at most, provided the fucking posts aren't all laid out on the ground.

>>79166537
>a week or two
how delusional

>>79166313
*lexicon, not accent, and the prohibition aplied through all of the Americas being more strictly enforced in Mexico and Peru aka places the crown gave a fuck about.

>>79166537
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/business/dealbook/puerto-rico-debt-bankruptcy.html?mcubz=0

>>79166597
>>79166817

It's always a charming experience to have outsiders try to tell you what is going on in your home.

>>79166817
The new granada was had PROPORTIONALLY more peninsulars than Both Peru and Mexico, which had always had a larger concetration of evangelized natives. We were the entry point to all of south America up until the XIX century. All the gold/silver mined in Peru had to pass through our ports (the panama canal didn't exist back then)

>>79166313
>Argentinian/ Uruguayan Spanish sound closer to italian than to Spanish man, what are you saying?
No, what are you saying? This is BS

>>79167115
There are studies on this. The Porteño intonation is almost identical to the neapolitan dialect

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/762441-napolitanos-y-portenos-unidos-por-el-acento

>>79167002
And assuming that's true Peninsulares did for the most part return to Spain, perhaps you may have meant to say Criollos? The Kingdom of Mexico was the largest producer of silver through the entire colonial period, even after they discovered a literal mountain of the stuff in Peru, obviously academic institutions as well as wealth (as in the form of actual nobility) concentrated in the capitals of the two historic viceroyships (Granada and La Plata did barely make it a century if that) now, I'm not saying you don't have a conservative LEXICON, but it would be very strange for me tthat your accent kept closer to the original over say Cuba, when you did experience far more exchanges with other Spanish countries and had a far larger influence of ebonics than both Mexico and Peru, further if isolation is the criteria it should be Central America where you'd find the most archaic accent. Your having an archaic lexicon doesn't mean your accent is closer to that of 18th century Spaniards, we tend to speak rather conservatively in those terms as well but had Nahuatl as strong influence when it comes to how we sound. I very much doubt the royal court in Madrid sounded anything like today's paisas.

>>79166967
And perhaps you should have read the article because it's Puerto Rico's government, not some random guy on the internet, arguing it cannot provide effective services to its citizens.

>>79167115
They do have a very strong Italian sing song

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>>79167972
>A Mexican wrote the smartest thing I've read on /int/
Truly the best posters

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All of Spain's colonies turn to shit and Spain itself turns to shit.

Remember that this country was a super power that ruled the world at a point of time.

>>79168117
Yeah we did, including you bby ;)

>>79164374
Thye do speak spanish and they were a spanish possesion until their independence (unless you guys or Puerto Rico). But since thy are sorrounded by french, portugues and english speaking countries, spanish is becomeing less and less important.
Their gdp per capita is so high because of their small population and their massive oil reserves, though the vast majority of people don't see that money.
>>79168117
At least we are real countries and not a rich people's backyard

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>>79167972
The Paisa region didn't receive much castillian immigration. It's actually the area of South America with the largest basque influence, so it doesn't come as a shock that the average Paisa doesn't sound like a castillian. Also, ebonics influence isn't much of a thing here taking into account that the black settelments of this country are quite isolated up to this day. The central higlands, cofee axis, eastern plains an the amazon are less than 1% black to this day. Also, it doesn'tcome as a shock that Cuba might have the closest accent to Spaniard (Canarian and andalucian that is) considering they're the most iberian territory along with Puerto Rico outside of Iberia itself. The southern cone countries received a lot of non-iberian immigration which shaped their ""dialect"" in different ways. Being objective, the closest accents to Peninsular Spanish are those of the countries which are closer to Spain itself (Mexico, Cuba. Venezuela and Colombia). Fun fact: Cuba and Colombia are the only place where some words like "coger" still retain its original meaning. Here and in Cuba or Spain you say "coger un Taxi" while in the rest of countries you would get a weird look as virtually everyone bastardized the word and gave it a sexual connotation

>>79168117
>>79168282
rekt

>>79168426
>Here and in Cuba or Spain you say "coger un Taxi"
We do that too. Nobody says "coger" in a sexual manner unless you are explicitely giving it a sexual context, but it's very rare.

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>>79168282
Y-you never really colonized us, the Columbus crew just gave us the name "Baja Mas" and killed the natives here, then they left for Central and South America.

>>79168447
Proud property of the most successful Empire. The British Empire also known as the United Kingdom of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

>>79169109
>"Baja Mas"

I meant "Baja Mar". Anglos later changed it to "Bahama".

>>79169109
>Proud property
You say this because you're a nigger, right?

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>>79169289
>SEETHING so hard that you have to resort to racism.

Yes I'm black. Most of my ancestry came from West Africa. "Nigger" comes from the Spanish and Portuguese word "Negro" meaning black. Go back further and it comes from the Latin word "Nigrum" that means black.

I'm not offended. Am I supposed to feel ashamed that I'm black. Exactly what makes you better than me physically, mentally, socially or economically?

Dumb sandnigger rape baby.

How is the unemployment in Spain going on?
Get a fucking job.

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>>79169787
>Can't handle banter
>Gets mad
>resort to call me dumb and sandnigger
>implies I am unemployed because topics

BTFO

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>>79169958
>back pedaling after getting BTFO

L M A O

>>79170059
>posts images all the time of people laughing to hide that she is crying due to butthurt.
>projects hard
>be a nigger

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>>79169787
LOOK AT THIS BLACK
THAT I JUST FOUND
WHEN I SAY GO
BE READY TO BURN

>>79160446
Dominican republic

>>79170362
They were conquered by Haitï. That sinks anything, desu.

>>79170446
Shame. DR is a decent spic group

>>79170446
Y remember this negro estadounidense who got mad because the dominicanos would't let him go to the hospital cuz they thought he was haitian

>>79170966
>DR is a decent spic group

no they aren't

>>79171177
Nobody likes haitïens.

>>79171242
I don't know ive worked and had great conversations with dominicans and they're pretty decent people.
Argentinean
Colombians
Ecuadorians
Dominicans
Mexicans
Are my favorite spics